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  • Опубликовано: 26 апр 2024
  • Last year Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelenskyy announced that his country would be ramping up fortifications along its border with Russia and Belarus. DW's Aya Ibrahim visited one of the newly built defensive lines in the northern region of Chernihiv.
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  • @keith8880
    @keith8880 29 дней назад +172

    I remember when Nato said Dragon's teeth don't work yet here we can see Ukraine using them.

    • @devoncavan6502
      @devoncavan6502 29 дней назад +31

      Ukraines learns from the Russians that it does work.

    • @Sebby6666
      @Sebby6666 29 дней назад +29

      Well it doesn’t work against the US. But it works with two primitive armies without air power and primitive tactics from another century.

    • @PalleRasmussen
      @PalleRasmussen 29 дней назад +17

      It does not work against a modern well equipped army. Muscowy's mob is not modern, nor well equipped.

    • @DarrenJamiesonJamieson
      @DarrenJamiesonJamieson 29 дней назад +3

      NATO (and The Ukreign), have 4 weeks left to catch Rambo before he reaches the armoury.
      A D-form voter would say, "Last week you said it was five"?

    • @soreeyez
      @soreeyez 29 дней назад +24

      ​@@Sebby6666 the high tech armies of NAT(Orc) can't beat primitive armies? 😅

  • @avosadakian8636
    @avosadakian8636 29 дней назад +66

    I mean I'm 100% pro Ukraine but weren't they laughing at these same things when the Russians were building them last year?

    • @SirDigby3601
      @SirDigby3601 29 дней назад +1

      Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 🇬🇧

    • @antebratincevic6764
      @antebratincevic6764 29 дней назад +1

      I'm 100% pro Russia . . . last year, NATO told the Ukrainians that dragon's teeth do not bite. . . Ukrainians believed . . . the rest is history . . . :)

    • @hadesunderworld4203
      @hadesunderworld4203 28 дней назад +7

      Yes they were

    • @NotASeriousMoose
      @NotASeriousMoose 27 дней назад +1

      See the cortina wire and the chain?
      Makes a huge difference

    • @cia5649
      @cia5649 27 дней назад

      cause from a nato standpoit it wont work they didnt see it from a ukrainian viewpoint

  • @Kristoffceyssens
    @Kristoffceyssens 27 дней назад +39

    Arent these the exact type of fortifitactions the media mocked last year when the russians build them?

    • @hendrikbuschfort6988
      @hendrikbuschfort6988 27 дней назад +3

      The russians were mocked, because they build them absolutely everywhere, eventhough they were not able to monitor the area where they build them. And they just dumped the dragons teeth in some Fields and didn't connect them with steel wires and usually without barbed wire.
      Thats how you got videos that show the ukrainians push the things away without getting shot at.

    • @Belgua_ZOV
      @Belgua_ZOV 27 дней назад

      ​@hendrikbuschfort6988 LOL they only pushed it away in training grounds. Ukrops never got to the dragon teeth, they got mauled in the Verbove tank ditches. Russia had much better manning that Ukriane will for all these defenses along Belarus

    • @vlhc4642
      @vlhc4642 25 дней назад

      To be fair, these fortifications were never put to the test as Ukraine's offensive got wiped out long before even reaching them.

    • @punkskillcops
      @punkskillcops 25 дней назад

      ​@@hendrikbuschfort6988where tf did you see the videos? They didn't even reach the first RU line of defence. Hard coping huh?

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc 25 дней назад

      I don't remember that. Not for fortifications or anything

  • @moiseshuerta3984
    @moiseshuerta3984 29 дней назад +198

    Remember when they made fun of Russias dragon teeth?

    • @GNMbg
      @GNMbg 28 дней назад +35

      yes because its funny how the big scary Russia has to defend against a country like Ukraine. Everybody expect Goliath to beat David, but it is always embarrassing when Goliath experiences losses

    • @nvmtt1403
      @nvmtt1403 28 дней назад +38

      @@GNMbg lose? have you not been watching the war since the last 2 months?

    • @American4UAF
      @American4UAF 28 дней назад +2

      It was where russia was placing them

    • @Thejoeviral
      @Thejoeviral 28 дней назад +27

      @@GNMbgThesame way we expect US to beat Houthis in Red Sea but they are struggling so bad and losing 😂

    • @hernanreipp3321
      @hernanreipp3321 28 дней назад +22

      ​@@GNMbg Is incredible how all your kind avoid to include the more than 30 countries on the zelensky's boys side that give plenty of ammo, weapons, vehicles and even troops.
      Also in that side you have USA, UK, Germany, France and more.
      And how well did they go this last months?

  • @joelrios3704
    @joelrios3704 29 дней назад +73

    DW talks about "freezing" the conflict as if Russia didnt have a saying on that.

    • @andreiapostu
      @andreiapostu 28 дней назад +17

      Now when everybody see that Ukraine is loosing g little by little but constantly, they speak about freezing conflict. Russia had this idea in 2022 and it was rejected by Ukraine. Now that offer expired..

    • @gregtriplex5878
      @gregtriplex5878 28 дней назад +8

      DW is Bri'ish imperial PR tools. looks like alot of Bri'ish play behind YouCryin proxywr

    • @ruin8891
      @ruin8891 28 дней назад +13

      They also talked how Ukraine will push into Crimea in summer 2023. They are delusional.

    • @Son_of_Lucy666
      @Son_of_Lucy666 28 дней назад +8

      @@ruin8891 Russia: Crimea turned without a single shot fired.
      Ukraine: cannot even destroy a bridge.

    • @fr2ncm9
      @fr2ncm9 28 дней назад +3

      @@gregtriplex5878 Russia never wanted peace. Russia wanted to conquer Ukraine. Why do you think they tried to invade Kiev?

  • @bbenjoe
    @bbenjoe 29 дней назад +96

    But how well does it work against artillery barrage? Russians are appearently fine with moving step by step, leveling everything in front of themselves.

    • @stephenlyon1358
      @stephenlyon1358 29 дней назад +1

      Russians have a massive build up of troops and are planning a big attack in a month we reckon. Time will tell.

    • @stevelee6283
      @stevelee6283 29 дней назад

      You need infantrymen to occupy the land and then…the dragon teeth will stop the body.

    • @andrewwentzel
      @andrewwentzel 29 дней назад

      @@stevelee6283 not these dragon teeth! They are WAY too small to be effective. All they have to do is cut the cable/wire and 1 soldier can flip them out of the way. Real dragons teeth are like 10 feet tall and are buried then cemented in place. This is either a decoy or a contractor ripping off the government

    • @vipulgupta
      @vipulgupta 29 дней назад +23

      ​@@stevelee6283 Zelensky, the clown, is making its soldiers dig their own graveyards now, because he short of men to even do that, this is nothing more than that.

    • @reddi672
      @reddi672 28 дней назад +8

      The media and Government officials tend to not want to speak on the depth of Russia's preparations for this offense. It will all play out on a global level. Some feel the US doesn't represent a leading superpowers stature anymore. The chess board has been reset, and a new game has started.

  • @facundolamas950
    @facundolamas950 29 дней назад +37

    How can those fixed defenses overcome the threat posed by FAB glide bombs?

    • @robertbradbury7921
      @robertbradbury7921 29 дней назад +21

      they cant, Ukraine lost the conventional war and are now playing defense and using terror tactics. 1/4 trilliion dollars + all intel and advice and in the end they still got beat down

    • @morchellemusic2829
      @morchellemusic2829 29 дней назад

      @@robertbradbury7921go to bed Kremlin boy

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu 26 дней назад

      Glide bombs are irrelevant. You can't occupy a trench with glide bombs.

    • @facundolamas950
      @facundolamas950 26 дней назад +1

      @@JK-br1mu you can deoccupy them lol

    • @BelkoTVMexicanJoker
      @BelkoTVMexicanJoker 26 дней назад

      There are 200k potential Ukranian Soldiers eating Caviar in Germany.. Arm supply can’t replace manpower.. Ukraine is Doomed, RIP

  • @iamsorryforbeingrudebefore1626
    @iamsorryforbeingrudebefore1626 28 дней назад +52

    FABs dont care about your fortifications. 😂😂😂

    • @deleoladeji8246
      @deleoladeji8246 27 дней назад +7

      Avdeevka can testify to that.

    • @tommytomas-fr3sh
      @tommytomas-fr3sh 27 дней назад +7

      they forget about that Russia have tons of these FABs bombs

    • @represo0r
      @represo0r 27 дней назад +2

      Those fortifications are no match for the shovels made of Stalinium.

  • @Herodotus__
    @Herodotus__ 29 дней назад +46

    I am sure Russia has an answer to that as well! Washing machines and Air dryers!

    • @user-th7ob9kl2p
      @user-th7ob9kl2p 26 дней назад +2

      This perfectly illustrates who Western leaders consider their people to be.

    • @adriannn1180
      @adriannn1180 25 дней назад

      yet still winning with those holy shovels

  • @GwynBleys
    @GwynBleys 29 дней назад +89

    Everyone was laughing when Russia was installing those :)

    • @PalleRasmussen
      @PalleRasmussen 29 дней назад +9

      It does not work against a modern well equipped army. Muscowy's mob is not modern, nor well equipped.

    • @soreeyez
      @soreeyez 29 дней назад +36

      @@PalleRasmussen high tech NAT(Orc) can't beat less modern and less well equipped armies? Logic? 🤔

    • @PalleRasmussen
      @PalleRasmussen 29 дней назад +2

      @@soreeyez I am not sure what you mean?

    • @Kodakcompactdisc
      @Kodakcompactdisc 29 дней назад +6

      Everyone’s always laughing at russia 😂

    • @avex3903
      @avex3903 29 дней назад +10

      @@PalleRasmussen he means go to the front and fight against russia then tell us if its modern or not

  • @AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv
    @AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv 29 дней назад +28

    All those years building fortifications on the Donbas, they forgot to build defences around the capital?

    • @soreeyez
      @soreeyez 29 дней назад +4

      The elites don't like the esthetics of it. 😐

    • @AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv
      @AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv 28 дней назад +2

      @@soreeyez yeah sure

  • @JBEMultimediamadrid
    @JBEMultimediamadrid 29 дней назад +40

    Western style of warfare and defense seem to not work in this war, Ukraine has to resort to Russian defense doctrines.

    • @nvelsen1975
      @nvelsen1975 29 дней назад

      What a bunch of nonsense! Where do you see Ukraine sending in massed suicide-waves of untrained conscripts with artillery fire as their only edge?

    • @tommytomas-fr3sh
      @tommytomas-fr3sh 27 дней назад

      Ukraine stopped sending their troops to the west to train as it is a waste of time. The West has no clue anyway in fighting a real open war with an opponent on par with them. they used to fight goat herder arms only with AKs

    • @cia5649
      @cia5649 27 дней назад +1

      western style is relient on air power and enough ammo

    • @JBEMultimediamadrid
      @JBEMultimediamadrid 27 дней назад +7

      @@cia5649 yes, against an enemy that does not have the capability to shoot them down or retaliate

    • @cia5649
      @cia5649 27 дней назад

      @@JBEMultimediamadrid once again not really true a f-16 is superior to any russian aircraft but ukraine dont have them yet or will have the numbers

  • @Ukrainecrimes
    @Ukrainecrimes 29 дней назад +29

    I remember Ukranian troops chief laughing about dragon spikes ,but now they prepare Kiev for counteroffensive 😅

    • @kurtcrawler6184
      @kurtcrawler6184 29 дней назад +3

      I remember when the Internet had fewer Russian trolls

    • @moiseshuerta3984
      @moiseshuerta3984 29 дней назад +8

      ​@@kurtcrawler6184
      Sorry that Ukraine is losing.

    • @kurtcrawler6184
      @kurtcrawler6184 29 дней назад

      ​@@moiseshuerta3984 Once a communist, always a communist.

    • @dcy8710
      @dcy8710 28 дней назад

      Cry like a river😂​@@kurtcrawler6184

  • @milenkoknezevic8143
    @milenkoknezevic8143 29 дней назад +65

    Fun fact.
    The west was laughing during the building process of Surowikin line.
    Calling the dragon teeth useless.

    • @gelolepsie
      @gelolepsie 29 дней назад +8

      They were useless. The minefields do the work.

    • @stephenlyon1358
      @stephenlyon1358 29 дней назад +5

      ​@@gelolepsiedont enter a dragons mouth and complain about teeth.

    • @choro3d191
      @choro3d191 29 дней назад +6

      ​@@gelolepsienot just mines stopped Ukrainian offensive.
      Superior fire power was on Russian side...

    • @Son_of_Lucy666
      @Son_of_Lucy666 28 дней назад +6

      @@gelolepsie tell that to the scrapmetal the Ukies were getting around in that the dragon teeth were useless. they slowed progress so the RPG's and ATGM ended the AFU IFV.

    • @IvanMartynenko-ir8xh
      @IvanMartynenko-ir8xh 27 дней назад +2

      I'm afraid that the soldiers of Ukraine will run out before the Russians reach these fortifications.

  • @willfahn1287
    @willfahn1287 28 дней назад +26

    If these defensive lines are being built on the Russian model that was used to stall the Ukrainian "summer counteroffensive" then those implementing them should rethink because the Russians who designed these defensive models are equally capable of dismantling them.

    • @tommytomas-fr3sh
      @tommytomas-fr3sh 27 дней назад

      unfortunately, Ukraine and Western strategies are filled with clowns and their politicians are only interested in making money out of this war.

    • @Dan-nx9zn
      @Dan-nx9zn 24 дня назад +3

      It's hard to dismantle something when nearby troops are shooting artillery, antitank missiles and machine guns at you, I don't think you understand the whole point of them, the whole point is to slow down an assault enough for nearby defense to destroy them

  • @q-m-q1362
    @q-m-q1362 29 дней назад +48

    OK now that the Russians know where the defensive lines are, change of plans and approach

    • @alebado8664
      @alebado8664 29 дней назад +11

      We have satellites since 1980, obviously they know where all the lines are, because we know where theirs are :)

    • @robertbradbury7921
      @robertbradbury7921 29 дней назад +16

      @@alebado8664 and still , it did not help the NATO lead and sponsored Kiev offensive of 2023

    • @SirDigby3601
      @SirDigby3601 29 дней назад +7

      @@robertbradbury7921 Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 🇬🇧

    • @robertbradbury7921
      @robertbradbury7921 29 дней назад +18

      @@SirDigby3601 you can slava Ukraina by joining the Kiev ground forces. Else your message is useless and empty.
      Plenty of Brits have given their lives for Ukraine's democracy (which suppended opposition parties/media and suspended elections lol)

    • @SirDigby3601
      @SirDigby3601 29 дней назад +2

      @@robertbradbury7921 Heroiam slava 🇺🇦 🇬🇧

  • @bateagbor1704
    @bateagbor1704 29 дней назад +40

    when Russia was building defences, the west was mocking them about how weak they looked, how the dragon teeth were ineffective, and now what do we see??Fabs will have a field day with such stagnant targets

    • @antebratincevic6764
      @antebratincevic6764 29 дней назад +15

      Last year, NATO told the Ukrainians that dragon's teeth do not bite . . . Ukrainians believed . . . and they still believe in NATO . . . :)

    • @traumvonhaiti
      @traumvonhaiti 29 дней назад

      the west's been mocking the russian military since feb 2022. guess what will happen when they have to face the russians in the suwalki gap

    • @nvelsen1975
      @nvelsen1975 29 дней назад

      You mean the FAB500 bombs with which Russia has trouble even hitting a village, nevermind hit a target only 3 meters in size?
      You mean the bombs that Russia is running low on? Launched by the planes Russia is running low on? Piloted by pilots Russia has already run low on?

    • @represo0r
      @represo0r 27 дней назад +3

      They also ridiculed the Russian tankers for using cope cages. And guess who also ended up using the cope cages?

  • @rir.
    @rir. 29 дней назад +73

    It makes us realize that "peace" exists because there is a state of non-peace.
    It may not be possible to realize true peace simply by advocating "peace" without realizing it.

    • @micaiahm1
      @micaiahm1 29 дней назад +1

      Are you saying War Is Peace like in 1984? 🤔

    • @silentblackhole
      @silentblackhole 28 дней назад +6

      Well, that was a word salad.

    • @mikelawre6190
      @mikelawre6190 28 дней назад +2

      Well done! You're now a great Philosopher!

    • @brbhave2p00p4
      @brbhave2p00p4 28 дней назад +3

      Your word salad tastes awesome

    • @SirDigby3601
      @SirDigby3601 27 дней назад +1

      russia wants peace... a piece of Moldova, a piece of Chechnya, a piece of Georgia, a piece of Ukraine.....

  • @juliaisachenko1143
    @juliaisachenko1143 29 дней назад +42

    You forgot to mention that somewhere in those fortifications there's a "window" installed for the isis guys

    • @SirDigby3601
      @SirDigby3601 29 дней назад +8

      Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 🇬🇧

    • @avex3903
      @avex3903 29 дней назад +2

      @@SirDigby3601 🤣🤣🤣

    • @juliaisachenko1143
      @juliaisachenko1143 29 дней назад +2

      @@SirDigby3601 Glory to its heroes!

  • @PepeCoinMania
    @PepeCoinMania 29 дней назад +23

    Stop lying to the people

  • @user-dx8kk8fr3r
    @user-dx8kk8fr3r 29 дней назад +14

    if they're up there that means odessa gets taken next ....

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu 26 дней назад

      If you posted this, you have a hard time reading a map.....

    • @user-dx8kk8fr3r
      @user-dx8kk8fr3r 26 дней назад

      @@JK-br1mu we'll see but odessa ewas already hit since posting fool

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu 26 дней назад

      @@user-dx8kk8fr3r Odessa's over 100 miles behind Ukrainian lines, and behind the Dnepr River, which Russia abandoned their only bridgehead over, at Kherson, last year.
      So no, it won't be taken next or anywhere near next, or be under threat for being taken anytime in the foreseeable future.

    • @user-dx8kk8fr3r
      @user-dx8kk8fr3r 26 дней назад

      @@JK-br1mu then why'd it just get blasted ?

    • @JK-br1mu
      @JK-br1mu 26 дней назад

      @@user-dx8kk8fr3r You said "gets taken next"............are you trying to attempt a weak recovery from your first, dumb post in this thread?
      Good effort.

  • @joshflugel
    @joshflugel 29 дней назад +31

    Surviving an existential battle with a much larger enemy is a matter of keeping up the fight one day at a time.

    • @michaelwilson9921
      @michaelwilson9921 29 дней назад +18

      Actually, when opposing a larger army the best thing to do is to not go to war with them. To accept peace when it is offered as it was in both Minsk and Istanbul. Losing Crimea may have been bad, but it was total foolishness to pretend that it could be retaken. Ukraine can continue to fight, but that only means more Ukrainian deaths and the loss of even more territory.

    • @Mr.Clownensky
      @Mr.Clownensky 29 дней назад

      Ukraine is doomed, they just dont wanna admit it yet

    • @Mr.Clownensky
      @Mr.Clownensky 29 дней назад +12

      Ukraine is done, they just dont wanna accept it yet, lol

    • @marisabenson1222
      @marisabenson1222 28 дней назад

      Ridiculous ​@@michaelwilson9921

    • @joshflugel
      @joshflugel 28 дней назад +9

      @@michaelwilson9921 It appears some prefer dying than living a miserable life under the thumb of those they hate. This scenario is taking shape in Ukraine, otherwise they would've surrenders in week 1, just like the keyboard generals expected.

  • @avex3903
    @avex3903 29 дней назад +32

    is the ukrainian counter offensive still gaining momentum 🤔

    • @vipulgupta
      @vipulgupta 29 дней назад +6

      For gaining momentum it has to start first 🤣🤣.

    • @timmy-wj2hc
      @timmy-wj2hc 28 дней назад +8

      Gaining momentum towards Kiev.😂😂😂

    • @Givemeproofkid
      @Givemeproofkid 25 дней назад

      @@timmy-wj2hc😂😂😂😂

  • @slobodanperic8269
    @slobodanperic8269 26 дней назад +6

    this defense makes sense if the opponent has no aviation, otherwise he is easy prey...

    • @SuperDarknessc
      @SuperDarknessc 24 дня назад

      So you offer to not build fortification and stand in open field without them against ground forces and aviation? Is it a point of your message?

  • @h2w..
    @h2w.. 26 дней назад +3

    It is better for him to show by example how he repels an attack and then quickly runs on the offensive.

  • @marshalllapenta7656
    @marshalllapenta7656 29 дней назад +65

    TOO LITTLE
    TOO LATE.....

    • @Crashed131963
      @Crashed131963 29 дней назад

      That's why 2 years later Russia has less occupied land than they had from the summer of 2022.

    • @ataytaygaraev4298
      @ataytaygaraev4298 29 дней назад +6

      Lol too late for pukin, he never take Donbas region with these amount of casualties

    • @stevelee6283
      @stevelee6283 29 дней назад +4

      Better than wide open the doors for Putin.

    • @Crashed131963
      @Crashed131963 29 дней назад

      If Russia had a way to overrun Ukraine they would have done it by now .

    • @greatman5836
      @greatman5836 28 дней назад +7

      ​@@ataytaygaraev4298The media love people like you 😂

  • @truthbsaid1600
    @truthbsaid1600 28 дней назад +6

    The new defense structures unfortunately need to be the entire length of the border. Here's why: After WW1 the French built the Maginot line to protect against Germany. In WW2, the Germans just simply went around it in areas where the line did not reach.

  • @emmanuelmvula1158
    @emmanuelmvula1158 27 дней назад +6

    That's all useless when your enemy has aircraft bombers, long range missiles

    • @ursamajor7468
      @ursamajor7468 24 дня назад

      Which they are afraid to fly within Ukraine. Silly boy. Defenses make perfect sense when Russia uses them but not when Ukraine does? Piss off.

    • @Dan-nx9zn
      @Dan-nx9zn 24 дня назад

      You do not understand how war works

    • @Dan-nx9zn
      @Dan-nx9zn 24 дня назад

      That's like saying Russia should get rid of its entire army becuz it and the US have nukes and long range missiles, long range missiles cant be produced enough to be used tactically for tanks and artillery and stuff, and bombers can get anywhere close to the front

  • @MudThought
    @MudThought 28 дней назад +5

    it makes surovikin line more incredible. they built it i a short time and in the middle of the war.

  • @Saqeynjoro
    @Saqeynjoro 29 дней назад +33

    I thought Ukraine were on offensive and winning the war 😂😂

    • @represo0r
      @represo0r 27 дней назад +1

      What do you mean? The Ukrainian army continues to advance unstoppably toward Kyiv.

  • @deleoladeji8246
    @deleoladeji8246 27 дней назад +3

    This Mike was a former UK military officer, who said Ukraine was winning in 2023. Now DW doesn't address him as a former military man anymore, he is just a military analyst at King's college.

  • @Chinunit22
    @Chinunit22 29 дней назад +13

    Those Fortifications didn't stop Russians in Avdievka

    • @massengineer7582
      @massengineer7582 29 дней назад +4

      Those fortifications weren't there. Active defense stopped Russians in Avdiivka for more than a year. But I like the way you spelled it, AvDIEvka, because many Russians rightfully died there.

    • @gugulethuzangwa8358
      @gugulethuzangwa8358 27 дней назад

      Lol RUclips comments are funny so u fight n winning the keyboard war😂😂😂​@@massengineer7582

  • @zakariyeyahye5566
    @zakariyeyahye5566 29 дней назад +9

    “Aiding Ukraine, Giving money to Ukraine, is the cheapest possible Way for the US to enhance its security [No US soldiers Are needed to be sent to the Russian Bear’s meat-grinder because the Ukrainians are doing the Fighting and Sacrificing their precious Lives on Behalf of the West; US, EU, Nato].” - Zanny Minton Beddoes, the Economist’s Editor-in-chief

  • @johnadam2885
    @johnadam2885 29 дней назад +28

    The second, grim faced Anglo expert Ledwidge says 'reality is setting in literally and conceptually' !
    Some months back he himself was delusional and cocky about Ukranian victory. What happened ?

    • @lurebenson7722
      @lurebenson7722 29 дней назад +9

      What happened was countries that gave Ukraine assurances that weapons and ammo was coming dragged their feet getting Ukraine what they needed to be victorious taking back lands.

    • @johnadam2885
      @johnadam2885 29 дней назад +6

      @@lurebenson7722 You are making feeble excuses to cover up defeat. Your behaviour is like a chess player who says if I had made another move on time, I would have won. Maybe. But when you play a champion like Russia, you will get beaten because it can see moves further than you can. You know what I mean ?
      The west dragged its feet only because it ran out of money and equipment. It underestimated Russia through a misplaced sense of superiority. Plus the west is afraid if it went to too far, Russia could attack the west with nuclear weapons.
      Ukraine was never going to win. When you cannot foresee much, why do you go to play a champion power ?

    • @mrbad3036
      @mrbad3036 29 дней назад

      @@johnadam2885 The Russian government and its meat puppets failed from the very beginning, now they are just settling for the 2nd place prize.
      The failure of the west was not being unified enough. This is where a single continent sized country which is extremely centralized, has the advantage of commiting near-limitless resources and lives for a single purpose.

    • @soreeyez
      @soreeyez 29 дней назад

      Lifestyle drugs of delusions of NAT(Orc) wearing off?! 😆

    • @univeropa3363
      @univeropa3363 29 дней назад +1

      @@lurebenson7722 No, before the offensive everyone agreed that Ukraine had enough to punch through Russian lines. Turned out none of our experts know what they are talking about.

  • @growsoul1334
    @growsoul1334 27 дней назад +3

    we are not fooled DW

  • @silviualbisoru5749
    @silviualbisoru5749 28 дней назад +6

    It looks like Ukraine are serious about taking back their lands.

    • @operator9858
      @operator9858 28 дней назад

      Looks can be decieving. Especially where western news is involved. How many wars are we going to lose before you figure this out?

    • @Andrew-79
      @Andrew-79 27 дней назад +4

      In dreams😂

    • @Ella-yz5zx
      @Ella-yz5zx 26 дней назад

      😆😂🤣

    • @Givemeproofkid
      @Givemeproofkid 25 дней назад +1

      😂😂😂

  • @shreeyashgole2108
    @shreeyashgole2108 26 дней назад +3

    These guys are gonna get pounded by FAB-3000'S 😂

  • @polysporin8332
    @polysporin8332 29 дней назад +27

    they should have been building these a year ago.
    but most of the people in Kiev was still partying and clubbing. 🕺💃🎉

    • @stereomtl9001
      @stereomtl9001 29 дней назад +7

      no they were too busy taking Crimea and Moscow 😆 and wait fot it ...Belgorod 🤣

    • @Son_of_Lucy666
      @Son_of_Lucy666 28 дней назад

      that exploitation porn wont make itself nor will those people smuggle themselves.

  • @Nubbe999
    @Nubbe999 29 дней назад

    1:00 that U around the wire and the wire does not look stable. I do not think it will be a problem pushing throw these. But guess every minute delay is important. But I would hope for them to make a better effort building these for their own sake.

  • @USB740
    @USB740 29 дней назад +27

    Ukrainians had from 2014 to prepare defense lines along the common border but only minimal effort was expended, given it's a large border especially if counting in Belarus, but i believe there was no proper thought given to build extensive defenses. This is a positional war with classic trenchlines and dug in troops, so they should have prepared accordingly. It's a positional war (and it always devolves into stalemate) and it has proven to be true for some time now. If Ukrainians attempt to play mobile warfare they lose. They must conserve their assets and be on the defense until which time they have built their combat power and when they feel ready go on a large counter offensive, it may or may not work, but this is how it must be done. Another problem is Russia has a lot more firepower such as artillery superiority so they pound these defense lines. Very tough situation for Ukrainians.

    • @psnaris
      @psnaris 29 дней назад +8

      This was the plan. Give your cronies millions to build defence lines. Then the inevitable happened and the money was used to build security fences around their newly purchase homes in the south of France.

    • @persianfire6139
      @persianfire6139 29 дней назад +10

      Imagine having to dig through roots and branches, the clearing that must take place first, the difficulty in constructing these defenses must be insane, the soil, the water level. Both sides mostly prefer many smaller zigzag trenches.

    • @USB740
      @USB740 29 дней назад +13

      @@persianfire6139 Of course, it's not like in the desert, like for example the ones built in 1980s during Iran-Iraq war. They were on a much larger scale and much more extensive. Type of terrain matters when it comes to building fortifications. This is why the battles in Ukraine is from treeline to treeline on these agriculture patches.

    • @lexluger6904
      @lexluger6904 29 дней назад +6

      @@USB740 Sir i just looked at google maps on Iraqs side, i'm just mindblown, particularly the Basra defenses, what the **** was going on. . .

    • @USB740
      @USB740 29 дней назад +6

      @@lexluger6904 It was ww1 on steroids. ✌😂

  • @psnaris
    @psnaris 29 дней назад +30

    Glide bombs?

    • @ethereal2620
      @ethereal2620 29 дней назад +9

      Thats what i was thinking. While very effective against ground troops, if the attacking side has aviation those fortifications can be easily negated. A single sortie can create a big enough passway.

    • @ataytaygaraev4298
      @ataytaygaraev4298 29 дней назад +5

      @@ethereal2620There is thousands of fortifications, glide bombs won't be a game changer

    • @suryanshsagar2677
      @suryanshsagar2677 29 дней назад +6

      ​@@ataytaygaraev4298uhm uhm marinka, stepove, severne, orlivka, tonenke, ivanovske and half of novomykhalivka would disagree.

    • @timmy-wj2hc
      @timmy-wj2hc 28 дней назад +2

      FAB 3000 incoming 😂

    • @ataytaygaraev4298
      @ataytaygaraev4298 28 дней назад

      @@suryanshsagar2677In 2 years? 😂 Nice result I'd say

  • @sundog60
    @sundog60 29 дней назад +44

    Remember when we were laughing at these?

    • @PalleRasmussen
      @PalleRasmussen 29 дней назад +8

      It does not work against a modern well equipped army. Muscowy's mob is not modern, nor well equipped.

    • @mabeSc
      @mabeSc 29 дней назад

      @@PalleRasmussen Why, if I may ask, would they not work against a modern military? What has NATO got that makes them useless? Am legitimately curious. How can the West just ignore fortifications, mines, dragon's teeth, bunkers and so on?

    • @sumofentropy
      @sumofentropy 29 дней назад +27

      @@PalleRasmussen I think you are running out of copium, here is some resupply

    • @YoutubeIsBad111
      @YoutubeIsBad111 29 дней назад +5

      @@mabeSc nato main battle tanks can just drive through dragons teeth with no problem but Russian tanks are too small and get stuck on them

    • @mabeSc
      @mabeSc 29 дней назад +5

      @@RUclipsIsBad111 YT deleted my comment. What a platform.

  • @silasdelobo4385
    @silasdelobo4385 29 дней назад +11

    Ha ha ha…I still remember how the west and Ukraine tried to undermine Russia’s defense line, criticizing how rudimentary was dragons teeth and bar wire, well, they have come a long way…

  • @joellee6142
    @joellee6142 26 дней назад +1

    this is what I been saying for a long time, they should have worked on defence and building up to protect the rest of the nation..

    • @user-uz4rt5fd7j
      @user-uz4rt5fd7j 26 дней назад +1

      Я прошу прощения, а вы собственно кто? У вас есть высшее военное образование? Вы служили в армии, принимали участие в боевых действиях?....кому ваше мнение интересно, тем более если вы даже не понимаете что хватит одного "кинжала" чтобы на месте этих укреплений появилось новое озеро 😂😂😂 ждёте Таурус? Если Германия и решиться на передачу, то покажет себя полной дурой, это единственная ракета технические характеристики которой ещё нет у США, то есть просто передадут свои секретные данные 🤣🤣🤣 и да, скажите пожалуйста, а знаете ли вы хоть об 1 случае попадания Украиной по линии Суровикина?

  • @just4visit
    @just4visit 29 дней назад +26

    even the wire is westen model

  • @user-op2pu6ix5b
    @user-op2pu6ix5b 28 дней назад +3

    Ukraine 🙏💐

  • @silafaupaulmeredith7251
    @silafaupaulmeredith7251 29 дней назад +12

    Just copying the Russian defensive lines

  • @user-jp4lt7xu2g
    @user-jp4lt7xu2g 29 дней назад +14

    I though Ukraine was winning against the washing machines

    • @charvy3438
      @charvy3438 29 дней назад

      It is, it is standings its ground against what was thought to be the second biggest army in the world. Russia clearly failed its objective to take Ukraine fast and turned the whole world against them. They lost the future.

  • @klmn48
    @klmn48 29 дней назад +10

    This line will be the peace line! This will be border between Ukraine and Russia!

    • @franzweiss9777
      @franzweiss9777 29 дней назад +4

      there will not be any Ukraine

    • @Kodakcompactdisc
      @Kodakcompactdisc 29 дней назад +3

      Imagine having to live next door to russia 🤮

    • @Amanbiswas_2003.
      @Amanbiswas_2003. 28 дней назад +3

      ​@@Kodakcompactdisc visit Russia before Russia visits you.

    • @Kodakcompactdisc
      @Kodakcompactdisc 28 дней назад +1

      @@Amanbiswas_2003. I’ve been there, utterly unimpressive. If they can afford the air fair and the blood when they land I say come on 😊

  • @stupidburp
    @stupidburp 28 дней назад +1

    Should also fortify all cities and make hardened shelters mandatory for all new homes and businesses.

  • @TqFinax
    @TqFinax 25 дней назад

    Defensive barriers only work if you are watching them. If you are not watching them the enemy will break through very soon. Yet, if you are watching them a smaller force can defend easier against even a somewhat larger force.

  • @pgs1796
    @pgs1796 29 дней назад +8

    They are not going forward anymore and they won't get back what they have lost. Fortify the lines just like the Russians have. I could see things ending up with a DMZ similar to South and North Korea

  • @zoom777
    @zoom777 28 дней назад +8

    Hey but Ukraine is winning and the counteroffensive is gaining momentum what's going on 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ursamajor7468
    @ursamajor7468 24 дня назад

    Defense positions are not solely for defense.

  • @calvin8677
    @calvin8677 28 дней назад

    Fortified positions they later say were insignificant to lose..it's better to say we're winning as we retreat

  • @matiasd.c9949
    @matiasd.c9949 29 дней назад +14

    Wait I thought DW told us the leopards and bradleys were on their way to Moscow

  • @user-oy5mm3pb2g
    @user-oy5mm3pb2g 29 дней назад +15

    How can a border be secret because of security reasons???

    • @Battlenude
      @Battlenude 29 дней назад +3

      They wont show you the overview of trench network and its position... captain obvious😅

    • @user-oy5mm3pb2g
      @user-oy5mm3pb2g 29 дней назад +1

      @Battlenude You can't hide any trench along the borders line for long because from space, every digging is noted and coordinates taken before you have time to camouflage them.

    • @stevelee6283
      @stevelee6283 29 дней назад +1

      Is that better than wide open borders ?

    • @LubosMedovarsky
      @LubosMedovarsky 28 дней назад

      @@user-oy5mm3pb2g Why would you help your enemy?

  • @Radonslur
    @Radonslur 28 дней назад +1

    this shows the fallacy of Russian doctrine. no airborne assault to worry about and ground progress too slow to prevent Ukraine from consolidating defensive lines. Tells us Russian ground offensive is what it has been, no air supremacy, and a retreating navy. fascinating to see it all.

  • @Bobbybulsara179
    @Bobbybulsara179 27 дней назад

    They need to look at Germany and the Maginot line, the French didn’t build defences near the Luxembourg and Belgium borders so that’s where the Germans came through. Same goes if it all goes pear shaped, the Russians would go through Belarus and a snippet of Poland to flank the defences. Ukraine needs to build some defences at the Polish border too.

    • @user-uz4rt5fd7j
      @user-uz4rt5fd7j 26 дней назад

      Ещё один эксперт😂😂😂 во первых все их локации придурошные эльфы давно сами слили в открытую, во вторых - а сбоку объехать нельзя, а? Вы хоть на секунду представляете себе протяженность границы Украины с Беларусью и РФ? 😂😂😂 2 км укреплений они накопали в чистом лесу😂😂😂 я ржу с вас

  • @BslmUSA
    @BslmUSA 29 дней назад +10

    Why do western ppl keep talking fight offensively instead of how to stop the war with peaceful solutions? Overtime, there is not a lot of people left to fight at all

  • @mariojoaquin9723
    @mariojoaquin9723 28 дней назад +5

    THOSE PYRAMIDS ARE SMALL
    IN SIZES SHOULD BE BIGGER
    THAN THOSE BUILT IN EGYPT

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 28 дней назад

    Give em heck Ukraine.

  • @thelorax7704
    @thelorax7704 28 дней назад +2

    If it wasn't for Putin's little boy tRump in the USA Ukraine would have those weapons to fight Russia. The majority of the American population and the congress support Ukraine. I think the aid will get through and hopefully help to stop Putin's war crimes.

  • @Robert-xy4xi
    @Robert-xy4xi 29 дней назад +18

    Remember last Spring, with the failed counter offensive, we were told dragon teeth were of no significance! So copying Russian defence lines is a good idea now!

    • @Joel86543
      @Joel86543 29 дней назад

      I mean they were wrong. Russian defences did work so why not copy them?

    • @YoutubeIsBad111
      @YoutubeIsBad111 29 дней назад +3

      The dragons teeth weren't the problem, it was the landmines

  • @johnadam2885
    @johnadam2885 29 дней назад +30

    Great Anglo expert is saying Ukraine and NATO are learning from the Russians how to build defences !

    • @richardploss4494
      @richardploss4494 29 дней назад +5

      That's Ukraine not nato

    • @johnadam2885
      @johnadam2885 29 дней назад +3

      @@richardploss4494 Ukraine will not do the things it has done like fight Russia without NATO.

    • @psnaris
      @psnaris 29 дней назад +2

      The "contractors" have already scarpered with most of the money. Haven't you figured out how things work in Ukraine?

    • @johnadam2885
      @johnadam2885 29 дней назад

      @@psnaris According to Victoria Nuland, all the arms contractors bring money and jobs back for the US.

    • @aoifemurphy1693
      @aoifemurphy1693 29 дней назад

      ​@@richardploss4494 Ukraine is NATOs cannon fodder .

  • @zakariyeyahye5566
    @zakariyeyahye5566 29 дней назад +2

    “He who is not angry when there is just cause for anger is immoral. Why? Because anger looks to the good of justice. And if you can live amid injustice without anger, you are immoral as well as unjust.” - Thomas Aquinas

    • @samsungtap4183
      @samsungtap4183 29 дней назад +1

      "A just cause for anger" that's exactly the problem particularly in eastern Europe where you may or may not know everybody carries baggage from 20yrs ago, 50yrs, a 100yrs ago. There are no innocents everyone is guilty. Oh another European war, that's a real surprise for the rest of the world, like we haven't had enough you. So you know where you can stick your moral rage !

    • @marisabenson1222
      @marisabenson1222 28 дней назад +1

      ​@@samsungtap4183wrong. Why do you say "we" when you mean 'I' or me and my group of people or some people I know. It's impossible for one person to speak for the majority. Perhaps you have statistical evidence that can ne provided. However statistics are also skewed . No you are just one person invoking many to support your weak argument and that is lazy rhetoric.

  • @westmckay-iu9cb
    @westmckay-iu9cb 27 дней назад +2

    West laughed at Russia in 2023. Not laughing anymore???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @user-yw4rx6kb3r
    @user-yw4rx6kb3r 29 дней назад +6

    Soviet era shovels and washing machines (fab,3000) waiting to test how strong Ukraine fortifications are.

  • @todorpamukov7435
    @todorpamukov7435 29 дней назад +4

    And this bunkers will stop iskander.circons and FAB 1500 and how i see they have and FAB 3000...this is mini nuke lol

  • @gabrielseicean346
    @gabrielseicean346 26 дней назад

    Moldova is Romania! Moldavans speaks Roamnian. Historically speaking, Romania and Moldova were united (similar as UK) Moldova should always consider Romania first and then Russia in terms of unification

  • @adriannn1180
    @adriannn1180 25 дней назад

    LMFAO just 1 year ago EVERYONE said Russia's defense lines would fail and is NOTHING... but here we are... Ukraine's MAGNIFICANT and IMPENETRABLE defense lines are starting to appear LMFAO

  • @ADZ01982
    @ADZ01982 29 дней назад +6

    Ah the same defensives Russia used that Ukraine said would be easily brushed aside in there offensive 😂🤣😭

  • @larryconstantine1404
    @larryconstantine1404 29 дней назад +17

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 from Ukraine winning, Russia fighting with shovels, all the sanctions the west put on Russia, paper dragon of lies 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Crashed131963
      @Crashed131963 29 дней назад +4

      I remember Putin declaring Kherson as a Russian city before retreating out of it 20 months ago . What superpower loses a city for 20 hours let alone 20 months?

    • @moiseshuerta3984
      @moiseshuerta3984 29 дней назад +3

      Russia still holds over 3/4 of Kherson.

    • @Crashed131963
      @Crashed131963 29 дней назад +1

      @@moiseshuerta3984 Russia has nothing North of the Dnipro river anymore like they once had .

  • @shonemumy
    @shonemumy 28 дней назад +1

    So, it's the Surovikin line but Ukrainian, basically.
    Proved great for Russians against "gamechangers".
    Remains to be seen how FAB-proof it will be.

  • @muhammadalhassan4958
    @muhammadalhassan4958 23 дня назад

    The defensive line could also be the new agreed Ukraine boarder with Russia. Ukraine has already agreed to have lost grounds. So, why wouldn't Ukraine simply negotiate for peace? Something is wrong somewhere!

  • @zakariyeyahye5566
    @zakariyeyahye5566 29 дней назад +3

    “Instead of dropping packages from the sky - some of which end up in the sea or outside of Gaza and which the most vulnerable cannot reach in any case - the US, the UK and others should ensure that Israel immediately opens all crossings into Gaza for aid and aid workers to assist those in need. This includes the Karni and Erez crossings, which give direct access to the north of Gaza. Only safe and unfettered access for aid and aid workers, the lifting of the siege and an immediate ceasefire can end starvation in Gaza.” - Melanie Ward, the chief executive of Medical Aid for Palestinians

  • @Crashed131963
    @Crashed131963 29 дней назад +14

    Need this at the Mexican USA border .

    • @andrewgusak123ua
      @andrewgusak123ua 29 дней назад +3

      bot

    • @alcibiadestome9619
      @alcibiadestome9619 29 дней назад +4

      @@andrewgusak123uaUkrainian bot

    • @Crashed131963
      @Crashed131963 29 дней назад +2

      @@andrewgusak123ua You guard your border from Belarus and Russia as you want and the US will guard its borders from Mexico as it wants to .

  • @richardbarrow4620
    @richardbarrow4620 28 дней назад

    In WW2 the Germans applied what they called a flexible defensive system.
    When using this system the lost 1 man for every 18 the Soviets lost.

  • @adamdudley8736
    @adamdudley8736 29 дней назад

    about damn time.. Jeez

  • @rouz0
    @rouz0 29 дней назад +3

    . If they want to attack, FABs will clear this defense in minutes

  • @zakariyeyahye5566
    @zakariyeyahye5566 29 дней назад +4

    “The Ukrainians are losing this war. They are missing Over 10 million people. I estimate that the losses [of Ukrainian soldiers] should be counted in the millions, not hundreds of thousands. There are no resources in this country, there is no one to fight.” - Rajmund Andrzejczak, a Well-known Polish general

  • @ezemaria3335
    @ezemaria3335 25 дней назад

    Which means technically they have accepted defeat

  • @engineeranonymous
    @engineeranonymous 29 дней назад +2

    These fortifications need to cover all the frontline otherwise it will be the Maginot Line reimagined.

  • @Justin_2_Motivation
    @Justin_2_Motivation 29 дней назад +10

    Why are you telling your enemies about this 😂😂😂 they will come prepared

    • @beng4647
      @beng4647 29 дней назад +4

      Its for American citizens so they will be ok with more money being sent. Dont be silly.

    • @alebado8664
      @alebado8664 29 дней назад +9

      We have satellites since 1980, obviously they know where all the lines are, because we know where theirs are :)

    • @Kodakcompactdisc
      @Kodakcompactdisc 29 дней назад

      That’d be a first 😂

    • @Son_of_Lucy666
      @Son_of_Lucy666 28 дней назад

      @@alebado8664 they know without that, since westoids like reporting immediately. why resort to your own satellites, when they already have backdoors in western ones.

    • @David-en6ro
      @David-en6ro 28 дней назад

      They have already started the production of FAB3000. Lets see what happens to these defensive structures when they meet those cheap fabs.

  • @Ivanna_Jerkov
    @Ivanna_Jerkov 29 дней назад +8

    Dragon's teeth don't stop rockets, missiles, FABs, and all that Russian air power.
    Just sayin'

    • @teddygonzalez8098
      @teddygonzalez8098 29 дней назад

      Its purpose is to stop vehicles like tanks, APC's, and infantry.

  • @bfastje
    @bfastje 27 дней назад

    I wish America would defend our own border so well.

  • @masonyang6171
    @masonyang6171 22 дня назад +1

    Good we support Ukraine 🇺🇦💯👍

  • @zakariyeyahye5566
    @zakariyeyahye5566 29 дней назад +4

    “Why are the Ukrainian authorities dismantling the Ukrainian Orthodox Church? Because it brings together not Only the territory [of Ukraine back to Russia; the Motherland], it brings together our souls [Ukrainian and Russian brothers and sisters back together Again]. No one will be able to separate the soul.” - Vladimir Putin

  • @zakariyeyahye5566
    @zakariyeyahye5566 29 дней назад +3

    “I will give you very unusual examples. There is a combat encounter on the battlefield. Here is a specific example: Ukrainian soldiers got encircled [this is an example from Real Life), our soldiers were shouting to them: “There is no chance! Surrender yourselves! Come out and you will be alive!” Suddenly, the Ukrainian soldiers were screaming from there in Russian, perfect Russian, saying: “Russians do not surrender!” And all of them perished. They [the Encircled Ukrainian soldiers] still identify themselves as Russian.” - Vladimir Putin

  • @MartilloB
    @MartilloB 27 дней назад +2

    Damn, the comment section really is full of Ruzzian trolls and bots, isn't it?

  • @tigoes
    @tigoes 26 дней назад

    « So that russia invade never again »..
    bro, they just took the freeway.

  • @fredo1070
    @fredo1070 29 дней назад +7

    Waste of money, they should have spent that on reinforcing the frontline in the Donbass.

    • @charvy3438
      @charvy3438 29 дней назад

      With these fortifications, only a few soldiers are needed to guard the northern border. The rest can be allocated to the frontline battles.

    • @Clandestine12367
      @Clandestine12367 28 дней назад

      I wonder why nato don't sends man ( because ukrainian population are declining drastically ) with weapons to Ukranie😂

  • @thomasalene610
    @thomasalene610 29 дней назад +6

    From offensive to defensive that means you are losing the War zielinski you better surrender yourself than destroying the entire country

  • @millenium2003
    @millenium2003 28 дней назад +1

    North vs South Korea border vibes.

    • @urbansenicar81
      @urbansenicar81 28 дней назад

      Not only that, but our wise leaders are opting for a line like that all the way to the Arctic sea.

  • @zakariyeyahye5566
    @zakariyeyahye5566 29 дней назад +1

    “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

  • @frankrusselldesign7563
    @frankrusselldesign7563 24 дня назад

    Even though this is a high tech war dominated by missiles and drones. I am amazed that topology is still such an important factor. The high ground still gives an advantage.

  • @4700_Dk
    @4700_Dk 29 дней назад +3

    The Maginot line, Atlantic Wall and Siegfried line all fell apart.

    • @savvy.1
      @savvy.1 29 дней назад +1

      But sorubikin line stood strong

  • @ToeCutter454
    @ToeCutter454 29 дней назад +23

    Europe's forests haven't recovered from the last war.

    • @geoms6263
      @geoms6263 29 дней назад +2

      what about people ?

    • @YoutubeIsBad111
      @YoutubeIsBad111 29 дней назад +1

      @@geoms6263 a lot of Russian cities have populations smaller than they did in WW2

    • @nhatho1723
      @nhatho1723 29 дней назад

      lol. Europe’s forests havent recovered from the existence of Europe. The old growth forests are dead.

    • @zawiszaczarny7876
      @zawiszaczarny7876 29 дней назад

      @@RUclipsIsBad111 They would have more if they did not block their own civilians from leaving...

    • @mrtopcat2
      @mrtopcat2 29 дней назад +1

      What about all the chemicals and oils that seeped into the ground? What about the mines and other unexploded stuff that will remain for generations?

  • @kongthai..
    @kongthai.. 27 дней назад +2

    Isn't it time to negotiate for peace instead of escalation and start removing sanction on each other.
    🥺💬🤚

  • @ungougedeyes552
    @ungougedeyes552 28 дней назад +1

    I doubt they'll be going that way. Would make more sense for them to aim for Odesa and landlock Ukraine.