Ukraine’s defences are thin - so why is Russia not winning? | Defence in Depth
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2024
- On March 4 the Kremlin said it would not be deploying its latest tank, the T-14 Armata, into Ukraine.
Even though Russia currently has the upper hand in the war and despite claiming the T-14 is the most sophisticated tank in the world Moscow has refused to use it in the ongoing war. Why?
One reason is that the loss to drones of such a prestigious piece of equipment would dent Putin’s image of invincibility. Anti-drone technology is improving all the time, but the pendulum might be about to swing back to the airborne killers. Advances in AI whereby Automatic Target Recognition allows a drone to find a target even if it is being jammed are just around the corner.
Even so, Ukraine is vulnerable right now. Kyiv’s forces have not built sophisticated defensive fortifications and obstacle belts like Russia’s so-called Surovikin Line. They are starting now, with a huge cash injection, but is it too late?
In the race to build decent defences against the ongoing Russian assault, will it matter that the T-14 is not going to be making an appearance in the war?
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the video didn't even attempt to answer the title's question
I find it hilarious as well that he complains about the T14’s inability to counter drones and yet we’ve seen the Abrams be decimated by drones. It’s blowout panels literally being a major weakness.
That’s because Russia has won and the collective west are in denial and panic !
It's called clickbait
He did... It's drones... The thing he talked about for most the video
@@Alastair_AdanaHuh? The blowout panel in the magazine is specifically to try and save the crew. No western tanks have tossed their turrets and instantly killed the crew, but there have been a video of an abrams crew climbing out as the magazine blowout did its job; and they weren't on fire as they ran away. Crew experience is more important than the tank.
The same Generals who think digging in erodes the fighting spirit are the same ones who wonder why all their troops are dead.
Thanks for the tip. I've been getting lots of letters from angry mums.
@@dannyarcher6370 a bucket of potatoes and another one of onions should do the trick, oh wait... your name's not Ivan, sorry!!
can someone please explain i don’t get the joke
@@blacksheep7874
What joke?
Can someone explain why Ukraine is not losing? I didn't get the answer clearly. Is it because they have good food and accommodation and ration their ammunition? I hope they build a defensive line asap.@@blacksheep7874
It’s interesting how they start making this war a sort of ‘entertainment’…
Everyone who can makes business on war.
It's been entertainment since week 1
What a coincidence also how that started simultaneously as the war.
For French Jacque and Indian Sunil, sitting in their suburban homes, it's always entertainment. What's Ukraine to them, after all?
Your definition of winning is quite different from that of Russia.
And what is Russia's definition of 'winning'? Expanding their Evil Empire?
The Russian definition is to try and try with the same strategy until collapse.
Than declare victory.
They tried and tried against Hitler ,Napoleon and Finland and won. They don't value life of their soldiers as the west does, ok, don't matter, they end up winning at the end. Russia never collapsed because of war.
Exactly. Russian definition of winning is demilitarizing Ukraine and protecting ethnic Russians within Eastern Ukraine. Its objectives were clearly laid out and is being methodically executed.
@@Arnold_Slater1223 recent leaks from Bundeswehr have German generals secretly, non publicly praising Russian tactical and strategic innovations in modern warfare
Ever heard of ‘war of attrition’? Results aren't typically visible to the general public.
Don't say those words it will scare westards
Same strategy they used against Hitler but this time technology in drones, missiles and an abundance of artillery has replaced human fodder. They’ve been very strategic and are saving their reserves in case they need to give NATO a knock on the head to send them back home.
2022 october Surovikin:We are doing a war of attrition
2024 nato:Guys i think they might be doing a war of attrition
2024 the telegraph:haha Russia can't advance that means they aren't winning
Exactly, Anyone that thinks Putin is stupid or inept are mistaken. The Russians are just sitting tight and draining the Ukrainians/NATO until spring.
It's called the "meat grinder" for a reason.
Sure the Ruskies are losing people, vehicles, ships and planes, it's a conflict after all, but the Telegraph is just using clickbait headlines as per usual. Let's just hope the French are not going to be stupid and start WW3.
The video is about how Russia can't exploit Ukraine's weak defenses not about whether Russia is winning the war of attrition. Not sure why the title of the video is that since big offensives don't determine who wins the war, we saw that during Ukraine's fall counter offensive in 2022.
9 mins 30. again this guy does not know what he is talking about. Soviet battle doctrine has always emphasised deep battle tactics and defence in depth to absorb the enemy. Kursk ffs... Is this guy getting paid to spout sh*t?
I think that getting paid to spout feces is more of a Russian thing!
He's just a bit thick
He is getting paid. By Washington.
No. He is a former tank officer, "my friend".
@@limedickandrew6016 interesting set of nouns.
I'm honestly sorry for people who unironically use the telegraph as a source of information
Косово то йест Србия!
I'm really only here for a good hate listen. The Telegraph is so unhinged and rabidly rusophobic.
@@lance9150 It smells of Kremlin trolls in here
@@luke250829 says the c1a bot.
100%. I had a friend in Belfast back in the 80s who was a staunch republican. I saw him reading the Torygraph one day. I asked him why he was reading that rughtwing British rag. "Always useful to know what the enemy are thinking".
Weren't these the same people laughing at Russian defensive lines? and... How could 'defense is failure' be a Russian doctrine of war when they basically burned their own towns to defeat Napolean. Get your facts straight.
*defeat Napoleon in Russia.
Did the French Army reconstitute itself in the following year? Yes.
Was the constant fighting in the Peninsular War also a contribution? Yes.
Were there other factors, including his own tactical and strategic errors that lead to his ultimate defeat at Waterloo? Yes.
@mattbowdenuh What many people fail to understand is Russia is big, really big. It spans many historical powers with competing interest. Persians, Ottomans, Koreans, Mongols, the Chinese. It has always been smart enough to not mess with all its neighbors at the same time. Russia invaded China when it was weak remember. Now it is strategically aligned with it. It is now making trade and strategic links with Iran and Korea. Russia actually helped Greeks fight for independence from the Ottomans, now it's is playing carefully with Turkey. Why, because most of Europe is hostile it is smart enough to pivot east. It is moving in Africa to choke the colonialist hold of western europe in Africa. Look at all the coups. Remember how many africans France recruited in world wars? It may look so in western media but Russians are not idiots.
I listened one podcast where Ben Hodges answered similar question. Long in short- Ukrainians are making mistakes, but Russians does too.. Here with time code ruclips.net/video/34SP5GvCNdk/видео.html
@@cenaalan5825You'll get the real story from Hodges. 😂
The Ukrainan defense doctrine that proves so effective is actually warsaw pact defesvise doctrine used by the soviets during ww2
Did Russia not already run out of ammo about 2 years ago, according to your same reporting?
What a bot 😂
why orks beg to kim for amunition? 😂😂
@@ismail-paine-de-circ for the same reason putin is asking Iran and China for, “ Einstein
@@ismail-paine-de-circ Why piggers beg the entire world for ammunition?
@@ismail-paine-de-circ Russian ammunition production, according to Western sources, is far above the production levels in the West.
Dude is narrating war like its a comedy show, what a disgrace....
Blame the war, not the reporter. Russia should go home.
@@hgbugaloucope
disagree
@@hgbugalou They will be home shortly, Ukraine has lost and will be no more, it must be obvious.
Its all they have got; they are mockers not interested in understanding what is really happening and what is really motivating Russia and so on.
My man said "Tank" and put a picture of steven segal.
LMAOOOOO
well he weighs as much as one now
😂@@Lupinthe3rd.
Guys the joke comes in 2 folds.
1) Steven seagal got very heavy
2) A tankie is a pro communist person, and steven seagal joined the pro-krelin putin party in russia.
...more folds than his fat folds.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Come of it. NATO, The U.N. and The EU don't know where to hide!
Sky is not blue, according to The Telegraph.
I see they have quietly dropped the Ukrainian flag thumbnail
It's actually not tho
It is a lighting question.
@@srijanme but it's not
@srjanme
Depends on the time of day.
Evening and the sky will often have a orange tin.
Middle of day it is blue.
Night and the sky is black.
Why am I not surprised that a Russian propagandist can't get the concept that something as simple as the color of the sky right.
Russian propaganda really is as incompetent as the Russian military.
Lmao
That's rich coming from a media of a country that has less than 200 operational tanks.
It's an island country my guy.
@@todo9633 right and how many ships do we have?
@@todo9633 The British Army could fit in Old Trafford and there would still be 20K empty seats.
@@todo9633 even your trident missiles fail lmao
Their Navy is inoperable as well. The UK has absolutely nothing going for them, they will kneel to Russia in the future.
Telegraph trying to 'Ukraine is winning but still needs help'
Most of us are not as stupid as they think.
Absolutely one of the most biast channels about the ukr war🤣
obvious propaganda channel
@@davidfisher9026💯💯💯
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Ukrainian offensive going backwards while Russians are retreating forward- The Telegraph.
average pro ukranian explanation
Why Russia cant reach Kyiv?
@@LuisLeon-wc5vk we will see if they cannot reach Kiev, they made it once, they can do it again
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@@LuisLeon-wc5vkwho said that’s their goal other than narratives being pushed in the West that keep redefining was “victory” means. Remember Biden would say the Afghan puppet government and U.S. military would hold after the pullout if U.S. forces, and it all folded like a cheap suit within a week. Stop being a sucker for theses lies about the forever wars pushed by the neocons, MIC and NATO
T-14s are not used by Russia for the simple reason - the tank is still basically a prototype that hasn't entered a mass production. There were only 20 vehicles manufactured as of 2022 and after the war started Russians switched to making the cheaper T-90s and upgrading the existing T-72s. However why are the perfectly available and already supplied to Ukraine Challenger 2s not used and the British MoD specifically asked Ukrainians not to use them "on risky missions" is another question. So the pun coming from the British journalist is actually quite hilarious.
Well, the UK knew it was scrap iron and they didn't want anyone to get hurt.
Every time a tank your country made burns down, it hurts your military industrial complex as a whole.
So the British prohibition to not use on risky mission makes total sense from an industrial point of view, if not from a military one..
Also American Bradleys and Abrams tanks that were "going to win the war", are scrap metal all over Avdiivka.
@@peka2478 Britain no longer makes main battle tanks like the challenger 2, last factory closed down around 2017 in Newcastle. I believe they only make the Ajax armoured fighting vehicle (AIFV), so where britain is involved theres no industrial point of view.
@@hairyhandsharry5991people have not just rational thinking, but also quite irrational emotions even in the military procurement sector.
So a burning piece of British military equipment can hurt the image of the British MIC (be it about mbt or ifv or atgm or jets or ...) in general...
Mike Johnson is a coward.
Go and fight yourself. Fund them yourself
the Putin Party controls the USA today... millions of weak minded Americans will believe any lie, deceit and corruption told to them by their leaders, no difference than Russians... both citizens hide from the truth.
@@rampage241 For all the vast aid the US has provided to Ukraine the ledger is probably in the USA's favour.
@@andrejsurdevics6476 That's no excuse. Halting aid unannounced has caused and is causing great damage to Ukraine. It's also damaging the reputation of the US and will reduce its effectiveness abroad for years to come. This is not coming from Mike Johnson's own convictions and it's apparent that he does not wholly believe in what he is doing. The fact that he continues makes him a coward.
@@andrejsurdevics6476 Even if that's true it won't be for long. Such a ledger wouldn't account for the great damage Ukraine has sustained and continues to sustain as a result of the US halting aid unannounced. It's damaging to the US reputation abroad as well, and will reduce it's effectiveness on the world stage for years to come. This did not originate from Mike Johnson's own convictions and it's apparent that he does not wholly believe in what he is doing. The fact that he continues makes him a coward.
Russia continues taking Ukrainian fortified positions and the telegraph says Russia is not winning.
At the rate russia is taking land, it will complete its victory by 2100.
If Russia is not winning then why should we send Ukraine money and weapons? If Ukraine has “shot down 58 of 60 drones”, then why do we need to send Ukraine anti air missiles? The propaganda doublethink by The Telegraph is so insane and ridiculous.
Russia is slowly taking ground. They do it at an equipment and manpower deficit of 7:1. That is called a Pyrrhic victory. All estimates show that the Russian tanks and artillery will be destroyed within 2 years if it continues at this rate. Whether manpower runs out sooner is a debate. The Communist Revolution happened when Russians were dying in large numbers in trench warfare.
Russia is huge. Ukraine is little, and doesn't have nearly the same resources. It's like a tiger trying to kill a mouse, and not succeeding. That's what they mean when they say Russia is not winning.
I think they mean Russia is having a really hard time with beating Ukraine, losing a disproportionate amount of men and equipment to do so.
Ukraine. 194595 square mile for testing modern weapons. A unique training ground where all arms manufacturers came running with their products.
Western wonder arms did poorly.
not excatly ukraine main problems is the lack of ammo and air support, western doctrine relies a lot about air support@@Jocular-mt3jb
@@Jocular-mt3jb explain why russia is so mad every time ukraine gets a new arms package then?
Ukraine. A sink for western billions
Armata did not make it, got stuck on the Red Square.
"Russia not winning"? Didn't know the Telegraph did graveyard humour.
I mean its almost three years into their special operation that was supposed to take....? It made sweden and Finland join Nato and Europe to unite against the war... Seems like a total faliour
look at the casualty rates and the occupied territories
@@T3hSteamcrusher ukraine is losing a lot and they keep going westward, whats the point?
@@T3hSteamcrusher Ukrainian casualties are monstrous and Russian casualties are vastly lower. Russia occupies a massive portion of claimed Ukrainian territory and gains more every day.
@@WordBearer48 according to who? the kremlin?
I wouldn’t say russia isn’t winning..I mean they struck Ukraine with missiles and Kharkiv officials are saying it could take weeks or months to get it back online. Not to mention the Russian momentum since taking Avdivka doesn’t seem to be slowing down at all, in fact they are able to use unguided FABs for the first time in Kharkiv since 2022
world second army taking 2 years to capture villages
No Abrhams were lost - Telegraph 😂
That's correct since there is no "Abrhams" in service.
Indeed, what they lost is called ABRAMS.
7 abrahms lost so far reality check
@@erosmyers keep pretending loser 😘
@@erosmyers nope, only 2.
That’s my Telegraph, laughing at Putin for keeping his prize tanks away from the battlefield while quietly ignoring UK and US directives to keep the Challengers and Abrams (until recently) away from the action - no arms maker wants that sort of PR after seeing at those leopards brewing up…
And why should the Ukrainians still have the old Soviet mentality of defensive positions being an admission of defeat. Didn’t stop the Russians building a defence line the Ukrainians barely reached…..in fact they used it just like he described the western approach …
All tanks will get blown up by artillery and modern ATGM's. I didn't really get the amount of hate the Russian Tanks got, Their issues were with how they were used rather than their actual capabilities.
@@pauly230678I think losing 3200 tanks was a pretty good effort by Russia.
The Abrams sent was the older Models the M1A1's that ended their service in 1992 it's not really bad PR. The Chally 2's on the other hand sending them is actually great PR they are the most armoured tanks in the world, and that was proven from the Single tank destroyed in Ukraine after it took 2 Artillery hits and the crew survived. The biggest reason for not sending them is preventing the technology falling into Russian hands. That's why the tanks were stripped of certian components before being sent to Ukraine.
no it wasn't hit by an artillery shell. And that old model thing is just copium@@rogaldorn3643
@@rogaldorn3643 thanks for your reply - my understanding was that the challenger's armour has come at the cost of weight (witness one getting bogged while being demonstrated - I was in the military for many years so I totally get that these things happen, usually at the most inopportune times, but even so). From what I heard they're being used as mobile artillery, but I'm not convinced they've been that useful in that role at all. Perhaps the mass use of drones has changed warfare so much that tanks no longer have a role in future combat...
and to think just a few months ago the russian army was supposed to be on the brink of collapse lol, now its "why havent they won?"
Putin is still a butcher and murderer
imagine world second army taking two years to capture villages hahaha.
Telegraph must carry a different dictionary that defines what winning is, than the rest of us. 🤣🤣
Russia has advance since the avdiivka fell,, idk what he meant actually,
That advance has grinded to a halt and was not significant. This video explains why they aren't fully exploiting weak Ukrainian defenses.@@user-uf7fs9kc6z
@@user-uf7fs9kc6z True, but its still small in comparison to the whole picture of territory that comes afterwards.
@@orest7026 no it hasn't. Russia is now about to fight for chasov yar
@@RuLeZ1988it’s still more than the entire “spring counter offensive”. Which didn’t happen in spring, didn’t counter anything, and can even hardly be named an offensive
None of those reasons are why they're not digging. They need to mobilize something akin to the army corps of engineers to just dig and build. The Frontline is occupied at the moment
Zelensky sounds quite firm but, in fact, is very indecisive. Neither digging nor mobilization was (is) done properly, because, most likely, of potential damage to his rating. No matter that there could be no elections during martial law, nothing is done that might cause widespread dissatisfaction in his precious self. He can't even organize the requisition of construction equipment from local businesses, to help fortify defensive lines...
A trench is a target that attracts massed artillery, like shooting fish in a barrel, bad idea if the intention is to kill the enemy, and not die like flies yourself.
@@tarasmanolov Government relies on at least a minimum consent of the governed. Russia 1917.
The frontline is non existent at the moment. There's three pockets of ukes dug in and surrounded by the russkis, while the rest of the ukes are falling back to new trenches.
@@deesmith6363 Probably the most ignorant assessment of the front I've ever seen, and I've seen some Dougie Macgregor doozies.
The Telegraph should better worry about the fate of the Challenger 2 tanks the UK sent. AFAIK the only one that saw combat was destroyed in record short time. 🤣
The rest are all safely stuck in the mud - nothing to worry about!
Whereas the only thing working on the T72’s is the turret spring
@@UncleJoeJoe - There ain't no '72s, man... Only shovels and them washing machines. And shovels...
My man doesn't even understand how wars work. Military equipment is supposed to get used during a war. If it gets used, it's going to get damaged or destroyed at some point!
@@rayzerot Exactly this, Dunning Kruger effect is in full force where some commentators are concerned 💅
Did know the Telegraph and the Sun had a merger 😂 Real honest journalism 🤣
True, Ukraine has been winning since day 1 and yet they haven't won.
Yep, as in meme: "Are ya winning, son?" )))
Russia has been "winning" since day 1 and yet they still hold less territory now than they did in the first year of the war 😅
@@rayzerot oh yeah, and why did Ukraine lose so many territories in a matter of days? LOL
Doublespeak from our elite masters in the West
The title of the video should be "Why is Ukraine losing, but Russia is not winning? "
What part of “war of attrition” do they not understand?
All three words. Yep, even the 'of' is hard.
To be fair, it is difficult to understand "War of Attrition" when people usually also say it is a type of war Russia will win, cause that doesn't make any sense when we look at the economies at both sides.
@@freedomfighter22222it’s a type of war that can only be won in the long run. Most people are to dumb to understand that
@@freedomfighter22222 Yeah, USA is so weak now. They have no money to support Ukraine. They are second after Russia.
@@freedomfighter22222 But it does make sense when we look at the population of both sides. Russians don't care.. They died for the great Putler and the motherland. And are probably proud doing so. That's the reason why "war of attrition" is a Russia game. They fear their own government more than the enemies in the trenches.
😂 What on earth is your definition of “winning?”
Ukraine surrendering I assume.
what is your definition of winning?
@@AmelpsXetttaking more land👍🏻
@@rvling then Russia isnt really winning rn
@@AmelpsXett wdym russia has take like 30% landmass of ukraine
This guy literally woke up and was like... "Today i'll focus on a topic i have zero clue about.... Yeah it will be a great story". 😂
My boy Francis did not deserve the heat🤣
lol who's Travis
But he wore it well!
He's got a great Hockey smile now. Only problem is there's not a soul on the planet who'd believe for a second that he's ever played ice hockey. 🤣
Dom missed a trick with the running away from the bill and maneuverability of a tank😂 ... Poor Francis, first Dom got the coffee wrong then Dom roasted him here 😅
As some people have said, 'Russia is retreating forward, and Ukraine is advancing backward
When Russia built its in depth defensive line everyone including the telegraph laughed at it and now they are scrambling to replicate it. They still haven’t realised that the Russians are fighting a war of attrition and the defensive line they built was to hold the line and buy time for their war economy to come online. While the Ukrainians attrited themselves trying to hold their lines or break the Russian lines. The Russians have used the time to built a professional army behind the line to use whenever they are ready they don’t follow a calendar or deadlines like the Ukrainians. The Russians are taking key strategic positions along the front to ensure they have the best possible position for a successful major offensive, they are not measuring success on the amount of land they take it’s based on wearing down the Ukrainian military whilst taking key positions.
This is mostly a bullshit.
I have a slight suspicion this segment on the Armata is created entirely for the purpose of throwing shade at Francis Donley!😄
it creased me right up!
What does "winning" mean? If it means decapitating Ukraine, installing a Russian-friendly regime and occupying the entire country, then they are not. If, however, their strategic goals shift to a grinding war of attrition which results in partial occupation of the eastern oblasts until Ukraine is forced into a cease fire by tired western allies, then they might be on their way to "winning". In the context of the former, Russia's presumed original strategic goals, they brought the wrong army to the fight.
I think on both scenarios it is still too early to say whether some side is winning or not. Especially since Ukraine is not supplied by 100% of all possible capacities by the west and putin is not able to mobilize freely without making his citizen too angry.
How long until they can hold their "partial occupation", ukraine will not stop nanufacturing drones. Russian infrastructure, refineries, and ships will keep on kabooming.
@@notastone4832tell Stupin that everytime he goes cap in hand to North Korea, Iran and cheap oil and gas to China!?!
That would be true, if the economic piece didn't exist. Russia is going to need their peace to not just include territorial concessions from Ukraine, but relief from economic sanctions. As long as the Western country don't completely drop their support, which they're very unlikely to do, then Russian will eventually need to come to the table as inflation, bankruptcy, and lack of financial resources become a threat to regime security.
At this stage Ukraine is winning if it can keep Odessa and Kiev and its independence.
@Telegraph: US/UK/EU weapons for USD 150 Billion is now considered thin defenses? So how much do they need? 1 Trillion USD more ?
Last time
I checked it seems Russia is winning 😂
If a 3 day SMO taking 2 years counts as winning. 😢
@user-cr9gz7sc8r So they're not winning because they aren't winning quickly?
6:49 - Frankly, I'm amazed that they don't already have this capability. It would not take any significant amount of compute so no sure why it hasn't been done.
I will be amazed if it is not already in some armoury.
The idea is so old, the Fritzbombs were radio guided because they couldn't do any better. But torpedoes of that generation could home on propeller noise and detonate on magnetic change.
Both had to be countered.
I would like this guy to host every episode, from 🇺🇸
Indeed, my mate 💯
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The MOST EXPENSIVE ever - I was like: F22 project or that US NAVY catamaran boat...2 trillion US dollars for 1 boat.... Where toilet paper is 5000 dollars a roll.
One of my favorite channels.
Host Dominic Nicholls brings entertainment value with his views on Russian miscues and missteps. Today, the T-14 Armata Tank: "The most expensive parade float the world has ever known."
There's a lot of things in the civilian world where the ethical questions are way behind the technology. Information gathered by phones, internet, AI, cameras.
Europe has a better handle on that with the GPDR.
Not winning? This last month alone, they conquered Avdiivka, Sieverne, Lastochkine, Opytne, Vodiane, Tonenke, etc. Seems hardly a losing stroke, thus. And the defenses of Avdiivka were anything but thin; they were one of the most elaborate of any city the Ukrainians have defended. The title makes no sense, thus, unless it was meant as clickbait.
As for not letting the T-14 fight there: it's partly due to not wanting bad PR (look at how it went with the much vaunted Abrams, once heralded as a "gamechanger"), but also because they can't risk the Ukrainians have a chance to maybe capture their latest tech. That's also why the US and EU send F-16's, and not F-35's...
It's all perfectly sensible, there is no big secret here. Both sides do not send their latest tech. Especially not, if the numbers of those wouldn't be enough to change the tides anyhow.
That said, I do think that once something gets serial produced and can influence the war, like the SU-57, it probably will get used. But even then only from the conquered territory; they won't be flying over Ukraine territory - for the same reason I already gave.
Not only that, but there was no plan to defeat Russia militarily in Ukraine.
The only "strategy" ever mentioned was attrition.
But that wasn't and isn't possible.
I knew this before the war.
Many many people knew this before the war.
Our plan to defeat Russia was economic. Sanctions and geopolitical isolation.
Both failed. So the military war plays out but our attempt to actually "defeat" Russia has failed.
Russia countered but more importantly they simply turned their back on us.
This is war propaganda. It is not meant to be truthful.
Let us not forget the WINNING. It took Russia ten years and meat assault tactics to take Avdiivka. I'd say the defense was pretty good.
@@msimon6808. There have been zero wave assaults, Simon.
From either side.
The most wasteful use of soldiers so far has been the convicts used by Wagner in Bakhmut and Ukraine sending an unbelievable amount of men straight into minefields during their counter offensive.
@@msimon6808 The russian military attacked Avdiika over a few months. They did not have heavy losses. For most the time they attacked with few soldiers. Ukraine reported that.
"Meat wave" is propaganda from the losing side. Always has been. No one in history has used such assaults, plenty losers have used that excuse.
The other issue I haven't heard anyone mention (although I'm not to the end of the video yet), is that if Ukraine starts winning again and reclaiming territory, they will have to cross back over any defense lines they build.
Nice bit of propaganda. Trouble is Leopards, Challengers & Abrams haven’t faired any better in Ukraine.
They destroyed 10,597 Russian tanks, according to Russian Propaganda Equivalents in the West.
kind of ironic making a video about Russia not advancing when for the last 2 years they've been telling us Ukraine will retake Crimea lol
UKR hits Krym. Regularly. And a lot.
Where is the Black Sea Fleet now? Not Sevastopol'.
@@w.reidripley1968 and yet there's no Ukrainians in Crimea
I love this podcast, the best way to get information about this brutal war. I always get stressed about how this may start the 3rd world war but the Dom-Francis fight makes always for a good friend/camaraderie to lighten up of the room. I love it. I'm invested in this rivalry. I want to see a comeback from Francis but he may be too whistley to mount a proper counterattack.
LOL! This podcast is a mouth-piece for delusional western propaganda.
I wonder why the British got booted out of the colonies.
I look forward to seeing challenger 4 shaped like a huge loaf of bread to confuse AI targeting computers.
This guy is living in a fantasy world.
The Battle of Kursk, Battle of Moscow and the Stalin Line contradict your claim that Soviet Doctrine was against the use of Defensive Lines in battle.
All WW2. Maybe the doctrine was evolved to avoid a repeat of those.
Nope, the Active Defense seen is the Surovikin Line is Classic Soviet Attrition Defense Doctrine. Deep Battle is the Soviet offensive Doctirne.@@michaelpettersson4919
@@michaelpettersson4919There is a US army pdf on Soviet tactics from the 1980's, they still had a defensive doctrine
@@michaelpettersson4919 Surovkin line is from 2023.
Cause Ukraine still has strategems that would make a grand frontal assault costly
Ukraine has been building defence for past 8 years, US backed. This has been coming for years
General Breedlove made the point on times radio today that Ukraine may not want to build a defensive line, because that could end up being their new border in negotiations. Makes a lot of sense.
Seems unlikely, natural boundaries take precedent
@@suburbia2050 that's exactly what happened in Donbas after 2014. Defensive positions became de-facto borders.
It's inevitable it'll come to that
If they area not going to build it now that means there will be no new or old border Cause there will be no Ukraine very soon
Russia's goal is to reach borders of regions which they recognized as their own [Zaporizhia, Donetsk, Lugansk]. Russia will reach those borders sooner or later its Zelensky job to think if he wants to lose another couple of hundreds of thousands men for nothing or end the war.
Because Zelensky's cool story about Ukraine losing 30k men and Russia losing 500k men doesnt match up with what we see on the battleground with Zelensky constantly begging for for more weapons and men.
Clickbait title but an otherwise good analysis. Surprisingly good.
Russia capturing just over 630 Square kilometers since the fall of Avdiivka and the title is why aren't Russia winning, top notch journalism here folks 😂
Hmmm not sure the jokey tone (“turret tossing competition”) is suitable when ten thousands of conscripted young men are losing their lives.
They could've refused and gone to prison instead of assisting their state in this illegal war of colonial conquest.
It's gallows humour. Something Brits are famous for
It's a comical design choice for a regime that basically lives off parading military equipment in the public sphere for image, don't blame the messenger
It's part of the propaganda to make the russians seem incompetent.
If people knew that Ukraine can't win they would refuse to give more taxpayer money to the war industry.
It's all about money and power.
The Telegraph are fine with blood flowing as long as the money flows with it.
And mothers cry to make the bang stirs happy.
This guy slept over Iraq in 2000s and Israel experience in early 2000s.
The T-14 Armata is a ceremonial tank that stalls even at a parade, the funny thing is that now Russia will have MBT T-62 and T-55, but Russia is not capable of producing new tanks and takes the hulls of old rotten tanks from “mothballing” and makes them them "new" tanks.
6:06 This is something people miss about the strategic importance of having newer chips. They may not be required for current weapon technologies, but they allow drones to obtain new capabilities, increases in battery lifespan etc.
Russian Lancet-1's could do that at the start of Russia's Special Military Operation. Lancett-II's can do it in swarm formations. They commumicate target data between any drone in the swarm (IoT) swarm.
Who makes these crappy videos?
@@theorncampbell4432 Could do what? Discern valuable structures from benign or less valuable ones without input from a human operator, with infinite battery life to boot?
Special Military Operation indeed.
@@VVayVVard "Discern valuable structures from benign or less valuable ones without input from a human operator"
That's not exactly something new or ground breaking.
Swarm drones sharing information about mobile targets is an example of DML. That's another "emerging technology" that's hyped up but has be present for a while.
I agree thats advanced processors and other hardware are the REAL catalyst behind big innovations and advancements, but powerful processors are (TinyML) is again, already present in a lot of drone tech.
ANyway, the video made a big deal about being able to aquire and hit targets without the need for a constant connection to a human drone operator.
Current battery life is plenty long enough to do damage to opposing forces.
@@theorncampbell4432 Battery life determines how far your drone can fly, and computational efficiency determines how much computation it can do without significantly reducing flight range. The further a drone can fly, the deeper they can go into non-friendly territory. I don't think it needs to be said why this is important. It's evidently not necessary for smaller regions like the Levant, but in Eurasia and the Pacific it can be a mission-critical feature.
@@theorncampbell4432 Everything still relies on human input. And the best (lowest-noise) models use far more computational resources, making them unsuitable for use on drones, currently. That's the technical challenge that better chips can be expected to ameliorate.
Where is Boris Johnson ?
Wanking away in hiding.
Now occupying the same shithole Cameron crept out from.
Inside a fridge in a ditch. Stupid assurance to Elenski that the West will provide everything he will need to win, now Elenski is pleading with the Russians to go back to the agreement he signed for peace all destroyed by Johnson and 500,000 people have died subsequent to his intervention.
Maybe on def row where he belongs?
I guess being a mouthpiece for the MIC doesn't pay as well as we assumed it did 😂
Waiting patiently for a video on What happened to Challenger Tanks and what is a Lancet drone!! ?
Problem with AI and 'Kill Boxes' is that the drone's AI won't know if a tank has already been disabled unless the turret is missing. Same for a BMP or similar
"Dominic served for 23 years in the British Army with operational deployments in Iraq, Afghanistan, the Balkans and Northern Ireland. Originally a cavalry officer in The Royal Scots Dragoon Guards he later transferred to the Army Air Corps where he flew Gazelle helicopters".
There are a lot of dimwits serving in the British Army, especially in the officer corps, which accounts for the sorry state the army is in nowadays, dysfunctional and not fit for purpose.
What’s on its way out? Your job as the telegraph sinks lol
the depth of the Ukrainian defense? seven feet...
So why have the Challengers been such a dismal failure!!
14 Challengers were never gonna achieve anything on the battlefield - not strategically. It was about being the first country to cross Russia's "red line" and give tanks; and encourage others to do the same. It worked.
@@Pemmont107 The challenger is an underpowered colossus. All it does is dig itself deep into the mud.
It was specifically designed for war against sheepherders in dry rocky deserts.
@@Pemmont107as a german... exactly. UK crossed the line, as expected nothing happened and we followed up. And I'am... not amused that we don't send our Taurus cruise missiles. It is really time to move forward with supplying Ukraine.
They destroyed 1,453 Russian tanks before they gave up their ghosts, says Russian propaganda in reverse.
@Pemmont107 they were useless and it was used as a way of getting rid of the old unreliable tanks by the UK army. I have heard through a reliable source that the reliability of these tanks is chronic
T-14 is not used because Russia recognizes that T72, T80BV, and T90M, can do everything that a tank can possibly do. T-14 would do no better than any of these tanks, the Leopard 2, Challenger 2, and M1 Abrams have all been destroyed in Ukraine. There is no wonder weapon in the form of a tank that is going to change the direction of this war.
While the T-14 was meant to match the western tanks, it has now been shown that Russia does not need to match western tanks, which are bigger targets, slower, and heavier than T-72 and T-90 tanks. They are getting bogged down in soft terrain, that the lighter Russian tanks float over, easily, making them easier to destroy. NATO never really anticipated their tanks being used under those conditions. They anticipated they would be fighting the Russians in Europe, where they have the home advantage, not in Russia's own back yard.
Where's your source? Most of the Leo's challs and Abrams have been held back for defensive purposes.
@@LeftUnderSounds ah yes "defensive purposes" also known as "stop making our tanks look bad in front of the world".
funny how there are 0 sightings of the challenger 2 in the frontline right after russia manages to annihilate one lmao.
go under ground /defencive lines like the maginot line?or the hindenburg line?or the syrian russian style defences on the golan heigths in 1967?
Apparently losing 500,000 troops and 1/6 of your land doesn't mean the enemies winning.
POP Quiz - I'm just going to the Bathroom for a Domonic then I'll bidet my Nicholls
Why the focus on Armata? It is irrelevant.
It is just a silly cope.
@@marinblaze How is the invincible Abraham performing?
@@discoveringthegardenofeden7882 game changer became lame chamber
@@marinblaze I didn't know the youth was into Beavis & Butthead.
@@discoveringthegardenofeden7882 never watched it really. Did i accidentally referenced it?
some people are able to say 3 chapters worth of words in 3 words
then there's others who manage to say absolutely nothing in 15 minutes
ukraine is on the retreat all across the front but i guess russia winning means remaking the soviet union lol
How does a Ukranian infantrymen, wholistically compare to a Russian. Tooth to tale, moral, training, equipment, tactics, strategy, ethos, creativity, so on. How does a military end up comparing against another?
Both are Slavs with the same work ethic, religion, ex Soviet culture and history. When it comes to morale I’d say the average Ukrainian morale has dipped significantly since the start of the war. At first Ukraines army was largely being filled with highly motivated volunteers who joined right after the invasion. However that initial highly motivated component has been attrited away and replaced with older forcibly conscripted men. Average age of Ukrainian soldier is now 43yrs old. Russias army after the initial call up of 300k reservists in 2022 is now being filled with volunteers who sign contracts with the military and are highly paid. Ukraine has been gradually replacing its losses with small frequent conscriptions but it’s still not enough that’s why there’s a bill working its way through Ukraines gov about lowering the draft age and doing a mass conscription of 500k more civilians.
@@Josh-jf8um Conscripts needs to believe in the cause but certain in the knowledge that they do not match the fighting qualities of their predecessors it is unlikely to bolster confidence.
A Ukrainian soldier is fighting to keep the criminals away from his family. He might even have sent his eldest son abroad to carry on the family name, just in case.
And he can be sure of burial in his own soil.
Slavs always seemed to me like people who don't regard their lives/personal safety that much. They're cold about dying or losing their loved ones. Almost as if They're drunk all the time and don't give a F. So they seem pretty ruthless. But the russians seem to care even less about this war, since umranians are fighting for their land.
@@MaxHohenstaufen Just goes to show we all have different takes on the same thing, IMO the Russians care very much about the lives of their soldiers and am sure the Ukrainian people also, however the leadership in Ukraine is investing their armies lives very recklessly, witness the number killed since the start of the SMO.
If taking region after region and city after city as well as crushing 3 major counter offensives isn't winning, then not sure what your definition of winning is.
Hearts and Minds,Hitler had Most of Europe and a Good chunk of The Soviet Union(a lot bigger than Russia)people hated him !
@@philiprufus4427Putin actually in one of his speeches made a statement that exactly addresses your point. He said that the goal of the special operation is for Russia to retake traditional Russian land where people identify and speak Russian. Majority of the people living in those areas welcome Russia and want to be part of Russia. Remember this started back in 2014 with the “Separatists” not in 2021. I think the new border between Russia and Ukraine will be somewhere along the Dnipro River unless things escalate.
2022 Russia has taken outskirts of Kiev
2024 Russia has taken outskirts of Donetsk
How is this winning???
US conquered Iraq in less than two months.
@@romchik07 The war started in 2014 with Malofeev paying "protesters" and Girkin arriving with his foreign militia to kick off hostilities.The local protests were fading away and there was NEVER majority support for Russian action. The "separatists" were being kicked out when the Russians directly intervened and forced Ukraine into the shameful Minsk agreements, which Russia have then consistently violated. The Russians had the gall to claim they were not party to the fight. Russia cannot "escalate" with conventional means and if they do anything else they are toast and they know it.
How can they not create a proper defensive line when soldiers managed to do that with nothing more than a shovel, a bayonette and an axe in WWI?!
That seems weird????
Mmm, so Russia is no longer a threat now is that the conclusion
Well, if Ukraine would have learnt from the lessons of last spring offensive, they would’ve prepared defences in depth, as they are now doing, which would’ve saved a lot of Ukrainian lives.
If Ukraine had learned lessons from Germans (with home Ukrainians cooperated during WWII), then Ukrainians would never start a fight with Russia. Unfortunately, naive Ukrainians believed Hunter Biden was going to come and fight with them. Now Ukrainians are learning, the hard way, what Germans learned some time ago.
Ukraine is able to survive because Putin's generals see their own troops as "meat."
Commander Syrsky clearly said that the lack of military assistance from the American and British traitors led to the collapse of the counteroffensive. where do we get the finances to build fortifications? where are they finances? in the US Congress?
And jf Russia has learned anything from said spring offensive, they're def NOT gonna send their best tanks to serve as target practice equipament for the defending side.
@@user-cp1qi4wy7jWe've given about 75 billion and huge amounts of modern equipment...
Big thanks for the great job. Sorry for the spineless leaders we have here in the usa.
Trump is a putin asset
Spinless, but not leaders.
and i do NOT mean vote for Russia loving Trump either!!Its your Republicans that have been infiltrated by Russia bigtime!Disgrace.
The Republicans are the ones keeping aid from going to Ukraine. Not Biden's fault.
@@srijanme British at the mo has no leaders, we employ fools who think the US is our friend while all the while the US wanted Europe diminished and in that they have been successful.
Loving the Francis Dearnley jokes. 😅
It's interesting how none of the Russian bots get that, but instead answer the thumbnail. 🤖
@Anybody! Can I get an ID on the DnB, please?
Feels like Russia jus waiting it out cus they know nato country’s are gunna fall out.
I think they will try but supporting Ukraine is one of the few things most western governments agree on and as more and more brutality is inflicted against Ukraine the support just grows stronger.
Russia can't even win without the risk of NATO showing up with a defense budget large enough to fight God.
I think European countries will stay solid but without American support there is no chance of another counter offensive. People need to realise Russia lost 17k soldiers to win Avdiivka, which is basically a suburb of Doneskt City. Russia doesn't have unlimited men to try and win this war in such a wreck less way..
everyone keeps saying nato going to fall out of will for the war. But literally every month for the past 6 months has been aeeing bigger and bigger commitments and equipment givong from nayions around the world. Including: ecuador, portugal, spain, netherlands, UK, germany, denmark, norway, sweden, estonia, japan. Thats just off the top of my head in the last few months.
@@Joe-og6bri think youre totally clueless. All the major euro nations are massively increasong arms production and some of them admit they are fine without the USA. A german yop tank manufacturer is even approved to biild a factory within ukraine.
Don’t forget that Russia/Soviets already fell apart once in 1991 lost territory and needed some resasitation. This makes them more experienced in falling apart than NATO.
Not winning...? The audacity....sorry the stupidity....
Yeah has this clown seen the recent battlefield losses, or maybe he just reads Ukrainian propaganda about how they shot down 62 of the 60 Russian missiles.
Bad robot.
Brit talking about bad engine... Chieftain with crappy engine and Challenger 2 which is significantly underpowered.
T-14
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
from what your saying, where is the Abrams X. its hyped and only seen in test footage. its not like its in its testing phase. kind of like i don't know ; the Armata?
it's in its testing phase, and Armata has officially been "in mass production" since 2021
Who says they're not winning?
Everyone with free speech.
Hey, boomer. Give your brain an oil change.
Ukraine ain't winning nor can it win.
The whole thing is a NATO orchestrated tragedy.
@@wbiro 😂😂
Wait, so who is winning then?
The telegraph must be watching a different war, who is this pillock?
Dom, brilliant work as usual. Calling out Francis's wallet and the need for real underground defences for Ukraine are both important. 💯. Fortunately Francis's wallet doesn't face glide bombs.
Defensive lines are better built by construction companies, not soldiers.
1:36 he’s been in karate for 60 years
Seguuuura
Hilarious that Seagal made the video. Didn’t even notice him the first time I watched.
Why? Because the pursuer is more exhausted than the pursued.
I expect the hatch covers to older tanks to be retrofitted to a design less vulnerable to munitions simply dropped in from above...
Ethically, what's the difference between an artillery strike vs an AI programed drone strike?
In France we had the Maginot line, it served moderately in WW2. the Russians used it well by protecting their western flank thanks to the explosion of the Kherson dam and yet they are having difficulty containing the incursions in Belgorod. Build trenches yes but where? knowing that the front may soon move further north-east with a massive attack bypassing your long-built fortifications?
For me, the trenches must be used to make the enemy converge towards a point of interest, making a wall means delimiting borders and thereby assuming that lost lands will not be reconquered.
But of course if the West made fewer empty promises and did not put so many brakes on the use of their equipment the problem of trenches would not even arise.
If France and other countries would send their armies to fight Russia in Ukraine the problem of Russia would not even arise.
@@Adonnus100 Fight Russia in Ukriane? Isn't it another way of saying starting world war 3?
LMAO Russia is having difficulties there? I think it's the other way around, the Ukrainians even had to make their propaganda videos INSIDE of Ukraine claiming to be in the other side of the border LOL they were 💣before they even started to move towards Russia
@@ashishIMpro Why would China join in if NATO goes into Ukraine?
@@Adonnus100 China considers NATO as big a threat as considered by Russia. If Chinese see that Russia has been left alone to fend for itself against a horde of 30+ western countries and their proxies, the whole world knows that it will end with a nuclear war and end of entire civilizations including Chinese. Just like the stupid rant by NATO that "Russia won't stop in Ukraine", the Chinese will say NATO won't stop in Russia and intervene. They are patient but still very aggressive regime. Don't be surprised if they launch a war in near future.