Why only a few will ever own one of the best Ev's ever made; Kia's EV6
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- Why only a few will ever own one of the best Ev's ever made; Kia's EV6
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You have hit the mark several times! No one is ramping up car manufacturing because they are all losing money except BYD and Tesla! Right? Until these companies can control costs along with their supply chain things will not change. But they will change! ❤️❤️❤️
I have it, wife loves it. We have the Wind AWD and in sunny California, we're getting just over 300 miles of range (at 100% when we need it) but the best part? FAST CHARGING, this thing charges fast and makes EV ownership very easy. My Volvo C40 charges slow and has a max range of just over 200 miles - yes, performance is fun and great, but I need to upgrade to something with an extra 50 miles of range next year, maybe the Ioniq 5N or wait for the Macan EV RWD which could have 350 miles of range!
The Macan won't have 350 miles of range and we all know that!
Have also the Wind AWD with all in except sunroof and Meridian sound system because of our 🐕 After 54 years of mostly German ‚premium‘ this IS the first car ever with NO issues. TCO therefore fantastic. I drive mostly mountainous roads, German and Swiss Autobahn and short distances. Have also been tyre testing on race track to beat higher powered Alfa-Romeo Stelvio with 510 PS Ferrari engine but about the same weight. Ferrari 600 Nm mine 608 Nm of torque but only 333 PS. I do 0-100 km/h GPS in less than promised 5,2 seconds! 12500 km with 17,4 kWh per 100 km is par to Tesla but less than most others in its class. The 800 Volts system is highly efficient and fast charging goes up to 238 kW. The Taycan makes 270 kW. Lately they tested in the VAG ‚house news‘ AutoMotorSport where only German makes win tests the newest Audi Q4 e-Tron Sportback against Kia EV6 (about same waiting time of 12 months, got mine after 8 month which earlier was ‚normal‘ also for Germans not on stock cars. The Kia is exactly what we wanted and since May 2022 part of our fleet. The handling is on par with most BMW M-Sports made up by Albert Biermann who headed that division for 30 years. The design from Karim Habib is outstanding from the now boring SUV crowd for Nokia and Motorola users. So we are definitely owning an exclusive care to be compared with early Pininfarina Ferrari and famous Lancia. This is something for consisseurs that have had all kind of nice cars and it makes fun not only on straight roads and there is no noise whatsoever and space like in an S-class Mercedes but at one third of the price!😎🇨🇭
1. No tax rebates any more
2. No availability; waitlist is months long.
N O T H A N K S !
When our house lost power for almost two days I reversed the plugging in by using the inverter and running and extension cord to my refrigerator. Even at 50% the battery would last weeks of only powering the fridge.
The 5N will not have 350 miles of range either. I got the EV6 GT as I don't care too much about range. I live in N Cali so the weather is super nice. I don't have to deal with the cold. If I'm not driving like crazy then I could get around 250 miles city driving. I do want to swap out my rims and tires to 19" instead for more range eventually. Honestly if I could get 250 miles of highway driving then I'm good. This is the amount of miles I could take before I have to take a break. 😊
Love your channel btw. ❤ I didn't know you owned an EV until now. Btw I got the GT instead of the 5N cause it has more features that I wanted in a car like an opening sunroof and rear heated seats. I could care less about the rear shades as I'm planning to tint the back darker anyways. 😊
I have had my 2023 EV6 for 4 months now and love it. I ordered it early last year and I am glad I waited for it. Lots of great tech, great acceleration and good range. Loving it.
Great! Hopefully tesla charging network opens up and you will be unstoppable 🙏 I hope my first non tesla ev is a canoo truck
I owned the EV6 GT Line for 4 months, but actually had some engine trouble. No OTAs in such a new car, is terrible. Its a Wonderful looking car and good to drive, but I ended up, for now, with Tesla YP..its far ahead on all levels
@@Mr.Relaxedwhat kinda of engine trouble did you have with you Ev6? Kia didn’t cover you?
@Bebela1ms Kia helped of course, but got Engine Failure on 2 long trips with family, and car had to be towed away..car suddenly just died, with no warning and couldn't do anything. After that I had it for another month untill it happened again in middle of highway..That's when I later lifted the buy and got all money back, since they couldnt fix problem apparently..Probably I was extremely unlucky, but it was what it was
@@Mr.RelaxedI didn't realise Kia made an EV6 with an 'engine' - don't you mean 'electric motor'?
Owning it, driven more than 60 k KM. I must admit that I never had a better car before. Had not a single issue (fail). The problem is the price and the delayed production. In France, I was able to buy an LR RWD mid trim EV6 (early buyer, the car was delivered during december 2021) for only 38400€ VAT included. The price was only for pros. The non pro price was more about 47k €. That was a very good deal. Today, I'd have to pay 16000 € more, for the exact same car. That's a shame. Kia dealers barely have demo cars in the showroom, trying to sell something else... The ride is fantastic, the leg room is the same as in a large limousine (back seats). No apparent degradadtion, really good range, really good tires (Nexen, changed at 60 000km in the back, still running the originals front tires) amazing charging performance that kills Audi, Tesla and VW drivers at Ionity HPC stations and even a lot of improvement provided by kia during those 15 months own. Was able to drive 800km in one day, easily. Was able to tow a small folding caravan too, and drive 240km with a fully loaded car, and be able to arrive at 40% SOC at destination. I was very impressed. The infotainment should be far better, but if you're looking for a really really good car to drive, the EV6 is the one. Is Kia losing money like Ford or VW do on each sell? Don't know, but it is a shame that Hyundai/Kia Cie, one of the EV pioneers is doing it this way. What is the plan?
"Is Kia losing money like Ford or VW do on each sell?" Every EV manufacturer not called Tesla is losing thousands on the sale of every EV they make. That'd include Hyundai/Kia. Those two firms may in fact be closest to producing at break-even but it isn't clear: they don't break out production costs by model & their financials are beyond opaque: Korean accounting requirements aren't the same as US ones & large Korean firms (Hyundai & Samsung especially) wield considerable political clout, may well be circumventing such rules as exist. Probably not as big a risk for foreign investors as China but definitely not comparable to EU or N America (neither of which are perfect, though).
Ford has finally admitted it loses $60K on the sale of every Mustang EV. Its experience is probably indicative of the rest. BYD claims it only loses $5K/EV, but Chinese financial reporting is considerably more opaque & unreliable than anywhere else (including Korea), so we shouldn't put too much stock in their published figures.
If losing money on every EV they build we shouldn't be surprised that EV manufacturers aren't scaling production fast. First step is to figure out how to design & construct an EV that CAN be built for a profit. THEN they need to figure out how to actually scale production, recognizing that profits will only come with volume.
So,
1) EV manufacturers will be - for some time - producing short-run EVs to establish that they're doing SOMETHING, and to retain what market share they can. But since these will be short-run models built on the journey to figure out EV design & production, their buyers will find they've purchased experiments that won't be well-supported by dealers & manufacturers - assuming both dealers & manufacturers survive.
2) EV manufacturers can't compete financially with Tesla until they are producing in similar volumes. Tesla is relentlessly pushing down cost of production per Wright's Law. Other manufacturers will have to follow suit.
3) Competitors are NOT going to be able to catch up with Tesla.
That last claim needs an explanation.
In a normal market, if one competitor gets the leap on the rest & is able to produce at lower cost, they tend eventually to simply adsorb increased profits (which then get passed on to owner/shareholders & employees). For example, Mars is infinitely more profitable than Hershey, but it doesn't keep growing & growing, it has long ago settled down into enjoying its profits & maintaining market share. P&G is significantly more profitable than its rivals, but that simply means shareholders do well. Apple continues to grow but profits (well above market standard) are now passed back to shareholders in dividends & buy-backs. In all the industries referenced there are high-profit & low-profit competitors.
Tesla has no intention of following standard practice. It isn't in business to generate profits, to produce dividends or provide stock buy-backs to investors. It aims to be profitable to achieve the Mission.
The Mission was published in 2006: www.tesla.com/blog/secret-tesla-motors-master-plan-just-between-you-and-me#:~:text=So%2C%20in%20short%2C%20the%20master,an%20even%20more%20affordable%20car
Tesla exists to change energy use, reducing fossil fuel use by the human race. One third of fossil fuel use powers transportation; one third powers utility electricity generation. Tesla's EVs will promote electricity to fuel transportation; its residential solar products & utility power storage products will reduce fossil fuel use in utility power generation. Tesla hasn't departed from the published Plan since 2006. It won't.
That means it will keep relentlessly driving down the cost of transportation, first by continuously reducing the purchase price of EVs (which it has done) & second by reducing the overall size of the EV market (per capita) by introducing robotaxis and running a world-wide taxi service, so fewer people will purchase a car at all.
None of this is good for the competition. Tesla won't drop the price to buy market share, then just milk it for profit. If they did that, other manufacturers could eventually catch up. Meanwhile they'd make less profit than Tesla but perhaps survive. Tesla won't stop dropping the price, which means competitors face a Sisyphean task: by the time they catch up with where Tesla was in 2020 (by 2025), Tesla will be light years ahead in production & selling cars for even less.
Tesla isn't trying to crush the competition. Musk has bent over backwards to help them: published his Plan & strategy back in 2006; been quite open & transparent about it since. Encouraged competitors to use his Patents, saying Tesla wouldn't stop anyone from using its IP. Encouraged battery manufacturers to produce Tesla's own 4680 batteries for competitors (provided supply to Tesla doesn't suffer). He's even directly advised Boards of Directors of competitors (eg. VW) when given the chance.
Tesla has no incentive to crush competitors. The firm is growing as fast as it can. Its goal is to change energy use planet-wide: it can't do that on its own. It'll accomplish this Mission in part by encouraging other firms to follow suit. Not Tesla's problem if they can't, or won't. Until now it is obvious that they wouldn't. Now they've (finally) realized if they don't follow Tesla they're toast. It remains to be seen how many will be able (at this late date) to follow Tesla successfully. If they fail (most will) then new firms will take their place. Market demand will be there. It's highly unlikely most existing car manufacturers will be.
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Pleased to hear about your experience with Kia's EV. I put considerably more faith in Kia/Hyundai surviving than any of the Japanese manufacturers (& I'm a very satisfied Subaru owner). If any of them survive I'd bet it'll be Hyundai. But I wouldn't bet money on it.
Problem is, ANY car buyer is betting money on the outcome of the current market struggle.
And a car is the second-largest purchase most people ever make (house mortgage is #1). At least a mortgage purchases something that (you hope) will appreciate over time: you're unlikely to lose money on it. A car is a depreciating asset, you lose no matter what.
@@jamesthompson7282 Ford has just another problem over here e.g. Switzerland. They have cars in stock nobody wants. It makes a difference when Hyundai/Kia/Genesis are considered. The Ioniq 5 you get around 6 mo, the GV60 in about 4 to 8 mo and the Kia EV6 between 6 to 12 mo. Flexible customers can get these car up to the GT without too much delay and about same to mostly others. Just Tesla can shorter now from Gruenheide. But Mach-e Model 2022 you get in 10 days. With all German brands, Polestar/Volvo, Aiways, MG the situation is very similar. So hard to say if it’s Ukrainian war, China‘s battery supplies or real financial problems. Fact is that also in most markets ICE stock is important also now after China wants the Euro 7-Norm. All ICE still hope together with big oil to change wind for some time. All these strategies are more or less politically motivated but transition takes place and some will be winners and others losers! China however is over all in bad shape economically and Russia will not safe all of their production. But they fully replaced EU brands. So the cards will be newley mixed and we will see by 2030 who still is on board. Tesla for sure because their business is not really cars. So this is the only company using batteries from at least four companies now including structural packs from BYD. Their ‚masterplan‘ is from another planet! Today only at Hyundai group, NIO, Geely and BYD I see a similar level of motivation, so let us see what happens! 🤔
The main issue with the KIA EV6 GT is actually finding one as you stated. My son was very fortunate and the dealer, here in Adelaide, had the RWD version in black. Not cheap, but goodness me - this is a ripper of a car and a head turner on the road. Beautifully appointed, very comfortable and it drives extremely smooth with power to spare. A lot of thought has gone into this EV. I do agree - more need to be produced because every batch sells out. It is the perfect car to transition into, if this is your first EV - on the inside, it is very reminiscent of a conventional ICE car - except you feel like your in a space craft cock pit. An awesome effort 👍
We had to wait 6 months and never got the one we ordered, just close enough.
Love my EV6. I have had it for just over a year with nearly 28,000 miles.
Living in Ireland and bought my ev 6 January 2022 I have it year and 4 months. Love the car drives so well it is my fourth electric car and by far the best car I’ve ever owned. My first ev was the Hyundai ioniq then the kona then the Kia e Nero all of these cars were realy good but the ev6 been built ground up as an ev is the reason I bought this car and boy it wasn’t a letdown
I’ve had my FE EV6 since June of 2022, absolutely love it! Very few built in Urban Yellow, so it stands out. Yes, I paid a markup for it, but totally worth it. Best car I’ve ever owned.
39 months waiting list in Belgium
mine has arrived after 8 months !
12 months in Poland.
Luckily we picked up a completed, but uncollected car from a warehouse over the other side of the country in the colour we wanted and at almost an identical spec, in 4 weeks.
EV6 buyers in UK are waiting up to 15 months for delivery, I’ve been waiting 13 months so far.
I just leased a 24 Long Range EV6. Love it. Getting around 340 miles of range with conservative driving. Nice interior and well equipped for just $204/month. Can’t beat that. Here in California all you see is the fugly Teslas, so being different is not that bad. Highly recommend.
I've had my AWD Wind since April 2022, absolutely live the car. Last month I sold my Porsche Boxster BECAUSE I NEVER DRIVE IT NOW! Crazy! This EV6 is the best car I've ever owned. Equal parts luxury car and sports (GT) car. I drove almost all of its competitors before driving it, and bought on that same day - even paid a premium, which I'd never done. Viking is correct on relative scarcity. I live in the DMV (DC metro area) with some of the richest communities in the country (saw a Rolls Royce Wraith next to me on my way to buy my dogs food yesterday, and I see literally 1 a quarter in this area. I don't know anyone else who has one, while my neighbor to the left has a tesla and to the right the Mercedes EQS. Strange maybe Kias strategy was to build it out as a compliance car. I heard they lose money on each one sold. Glad I bought it.
Early adopters always want t new one.
I bought a 2022 Kia EV6 Wind AWD with 18,000 miles last month.
It has the tech package. I love it!.
This original sticker price was $55,000 US. I paid $35,000.
So forget the tax rebate, I saved $20,000 and it looks like new.
The software update makes it identical to the 2024 model.
l.
Level two charger in my garage brings it from 20 to 80 percent in 4 hours, but I only have to charge it once a week.
Only minus is that we are in 0 degrees F. temperatures now in Minnesota, so getting 2.3 miles / kwh.
Can't wait for summer and take this fun car on the road!
This is nuts!!! I looked at the ev6 at the dealership, it was amazing especially the interior way better then tesla.
I have a Kia EV6 GT Line RWD. It's a great little car, drives great, nice interior, interior screen, semi-self diving too. I've owned and BMW i3 Rex and a Chevy Bolt EUV Launch Edition with Super Cruise.
I've seen those around the Plano Texas area in the US, nothing like it on the road. It's shaped more like a station wagon (shooting brake) than a crossover. Very nice looking car.
. I’ve had one on order for 16 months and should be with me by the end of the month. One of the hardest cars to get. I don’t believe sales are dwindling in Europe. Most anyone ordering today won’t get one till next year.I think you have a point I believe it’s a this is what we can do car .
I picked up my EV6 GT-Line back in January, and I can't believe how much I love this car. I've got so many compliments from random people wanting to know what kind of KIA this is! I feel like the Hyundai cars got way more press and attention from the vehicle press, and so that may have helped depress sales. They were super easy to find here in the States, and I'm so happy I got this instead of the Ioniq 5!
Got my awesome EV6 last week and i love it. Waited 16 months on it! I also think the issue is the price hike that suddenly came out of nowhere (i spoke to my dealership and ALOT of people who ordered the EV6 have cancelled their order due to the price hike) and and on top of all this, crazy long delivery time.
Who’s the charging ? Are u doing home charging? Hope you’re liking your Ev6
I'm quite certain that the real problem here, is the long delivery period.
I've read a lot of posts on SoMe, where a lot of people actually have ordered a EV6, but cancelling the order due the extremely long delivery time.
That's the only reason.
Most of the people actually wants a EV6 the most, but often they turn their eyes to Tesla instead, who delivers in 14 days.
So, it's not because the EV6 doesn't have a huge sale potential - Kia sadly just can't deliver.
Ours is on the boat now...hurray. After over 18 months of waiting we are about 6 weeks away from picking it up.
I got mine in November 2021, almost the first delivery in the UK, it is a superb car. Kia could sell as many as they can produce, but they are not making very many.
About a year waiting list in UK, depending on model.
Saw quite a few in Luxembourg already, but you are right: still a pretty unusual car on the road as compared to other EVs.
Cant buy whats not available and it costs significantly more than comparable Tesla Y LR and ioniq5 epiq
Well, luckily I was one of the 8% in April, picked up my RWD EV6 after more than a year wait....loving it, no regrets at all !!!
Tested it today after watching this video. Here you can get one without waiting. Great to drive, although not as fun to drive as Xpeng P7, that I tested two days ago. It was awesome to drive! But the trunk is more practical, and it's possible to get one with a tow bar, which is sadly not possible on the P7. Two of the most interesting cars in this price range, I think.
I own a 2023 WIND AWD EV6 and LOVE IT! I might be in a minority here…I was looking for an EV, walked into a dealership on a Tuesday and purchased it that Thursday. I bought it in February, I live in New Jersey. There were incentives to buy EVs at that time, and I went all in. 💙💙💙💙
I have one and I love it. It was my third EV and I hope to drive it for 10 years.
We ordered and received our Kia EV6 GT-Line here in Florida in August 2022, just in time to get the tax incentive which helped as it’s the most we’ve spent on a vehicle ever! Have to say that we love it and all the tech features which is saying something for being in our 60’s! It’s the most fun we’ve had to drive, we only wish we sat up a little higher like a regular SUV. For only this reason, we may look at trading it in for the EV9 when they are being built here in the US so it hopefully will qualify for the tax incentives/rebate. We do love that you don’t see many on the road like you do Tesla’s so it’s a unique experience for sure. It is great that Tesla started to get the ball rolling for EV’s, just not a fan of Elon Musk though!😅
Like most brands, the early models are supposed to be technology demonstrators, to prove that they are up to the challenge, and to stop their customers going away to other brands, but until they can get their supply chains set up, these will be simply for show and they will make a loss on each and every one. The assumption is that the loses will be overshadowed by the brand awareness.
I’m one of the ‘lucky persons’. 1 year ownership. And it’s by far the best car I’ve ever owned.
I have one since September 2022 and had an Ioniq 5 and a model 3 before that. This is by far the best.
I ordered mine in the UK beginning July and it was on the boat 4 days later. GTline S RWD. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned, and I just am in love with it. Can’t see me ever driving anything else…like the fact you don’t see many unlike Teslas. I had a 22 Sportage PHEV and loved it until there was one around every corner a year later.
Received my 2023 EV6 AWD GT-line in February after waiting 11 months, have already placed a deposit with my dealer for a 2024 EV9 AWD awaiting pricing and trim specifications. Expect long delivery times for the EV9 also here in BC Canada. I believe the Kia Niro EV and Kia Soul EV have similar delivery issues.
I have the gt and love it very fast and it’s a big head turner
Absolutely agree with you but the story of compliance car is not true for any market. Kia is just in production hell like Elon once said and they will ramp up production when markets are calming down somewhat, now it’s a hype to get one first and that already started with iPhone and Tesla. Here in Switzerland you can get even GTs in around 6 to 12 months. I ordered my EV6 AWD Wind all in, just without sunroof and Meridian Soundsystem in september 2021 and got it may 2022. Now after 12‘000 km with every profile in, the car used 17,4 kWh on 100 km and I have been on track days for tyre testing. Absolutely no problems neither in cold weather and snow. It shows the drivability of former M-Sports BMW what is due to Albert Biermann who headed the division for 30 years. And also first time in a German autotest the Kia completely burnt the all new Audi Q4 E-Tron Sportback by far. You must know that Auto Motor Sport is kind of ‚in-house‘ newspaper to Volkswagen group and always found ways to have a German ‚winner‘! You should also know that I owned mostly German ‚Premium‘ for 54 years and the Kia was the first that in one year was only 30 Minutes at a service center to change wheels. Hope now only on some improved software for charge planning similar to Tesla and that is all. The rest is just sensational TCO and absolutely no noises from drivetrain. Very spacious interior in its class and better than an EQE350, costing three times as much with all in. 800 Volts system and fast charging at up to 240 kWh (Tesla MY now 250 and Porsche Taycan 270 kWh). Measured power higher than promised with 333 PS and 608 Nm and 5,0 Seconds to 100 km and it corners like a smaller sportscar. It’s absolutely fun and only the GT (585 PS) or Ioniq 6 could top it. It’s for me also different from Tesla in things that are very important to me, but I am a shareholder of TESLA anyhow. So fanboys have to accept that I just liked the absolutely gorgeous design from Karim Habib more and the car reminds me to ones of my favorite classic cars when boring SUV boxes where not known yet and cars had ‚fluid‘ forms. It’s the heritage of some of the best from Pininfarina, Ferrari, Lancia, Alfa-Romeo Montreal, Jaguar E-Type and also some remarkable BMW. So the circle closes unlike no other and I am proud to be considered as ‚VIP‘!😂🤔🇨🇭
Very interesting... I have a EV6 GT on order, it was expected to be delivered mid 24, and it's already here, the dealer doesn't know why it's so quick ! Funny thing is that I currently have an I-Pace, and now that the EV6 GT is there, I have to sell it... and of course as you said, no one wants an I-Pace now. So I'll probably end up cancelling the GT and keeping my I-Pace, strange times to try to buy a car :o
Live in Netherlands. In March I was looking for an ev. On the website I configured an EV6. Expected delivery date was December 23 2023. I’m not going to wait 9 months for one when Tesla was offering a 3000 euro discount and a 9 days delivery window
Went onto a Kia showroom in Essex they had 4 new ones in the showroom looked really good inside & outside maybe the prices are not competitive
I have it and it is just amazing. Love to drive it.
I live in a regional town in NSW somehow I see two ev 6’s quite regularly which when given how relatively few EVs there are around here 2 Tesla model 3s, 2 MG ZS EVs (I’m one of the MG owners) 1 BYD and 2 EV 6s (one I know is owned by a bloke in town) is not an insubstantial number and when talking with one of the owners apparently the wait list is 6-7 months. So it doesn’t appear to be doing too badly.
In my area (south of Sweden) the EV6 is a very common car. I see them everywhere. If I drive to the grocery store about 3km I will for sure see atleast 3-4 of them and in the parking lot there will be a few more. The Kia E-Niro of the older version is very common too. Hundreds of those around even if I live in a small city (20 000 people). And we don’t even have a local dealer but have to go about 60 km away to buy one. But the dealers around here must have sold a lot.
Sales were directly influenced by production and distribution, I’ve had mine 6 months but had to wait 6 months on a waiting list. Everywhere around me had such long waiting lists. Many likely just gave up and got something else.
Kia is still an up and coming brand. Their sales are increasing and they're still building a reputation. In 2024 just purchased my EV6 Wind AWD and its great. Just effortless power. A fairly firm ride, just a little bit stiffer than my old Acura. But with way more power and tons of technology. ROde in a TEsla Model Y for a taxi ride once and it was pretty rough. EV6 is firm but much more planted and comfortable. After three weeks, getting around 307 miles of range in ECO mode during commuter traffic. Much better than the advertised 282 miles of range.
My only complaint? After a day long drive, about three hours in the car, I had to get out. My butt was starting ache a bit. Seats are much more firm than my old Acura. I didn't notice at first because I don't drive that far in rush hour. But after three hours, I really needed a break. Granted I would have needed to take a break in the old car after three hours. But my butt never noticed before. I'm sure I have to break in the seats a bit. Otherwise, enjoying this car and pleased that I got it.
Beautiful car. Definitely top od my wish list. Enjoy!
@@terryoleary3396 I should add a correction, I found out there's a stiffness button in the power seats. In raising the seat height, I had also raised the seat firmness. I found that out and lowered the firmness of the seat without lowering the height. Much more comfortable now.
Had an EV6 on order but was going to be a 12 month wait for it, ended up getting an in stock GV60 basically the same car but with a better interior, love it.
I bought one and love it. But i had to wait a long time. I would buy it again every time, it was worth waiting.
That’s crazy people are waiting for it , there’s so many of ev6’s in lots at every dealer
I ordered an EV6 in the UK end of March 2022, only now am I getting an estimated delivery date in June 2023.
My sister in law just picked one up, extremely impressive vehicle.
I'm on my 2nd EV6 now. First was RWD GT-Line and new one is GT.
Love the car from most parts, but I D
don't love the crappy FM-radio and dated UI.
I am not surprised.
From a European perspective: Hello Kia, bring out a car with the performance of the EV6/EV5, but as a hatchback or at least under 4.3m in length.
Otherwise you'll be surprised what happens when the Tesla M2 comes on the market.
Hey Sam, that Kia Strategy is mind boggling, if not insane. What head of any serious car manufacturer would last 10 minutes in a Share Holder meeting before having his head or his ass handed to him. You realize the expense of tooling and assembly necessary to make a car that you have no interest in not only not making, but likely you may not be making back your investment. I wish I had that kind of money to burn.
Love my EV6 RWD, had it since Oct 22.. Best car I've ever had by far and eclipses my past Range Rover and BMW - reason for low take up is low availability. I asked the dealer just last week what is current waiting time on the GT (I'm in West Aust)- he said 2 years and the RWD as per mine - 20 months minimum. Who would wait that long.
Wanna be owners of the Cybertruck have waited for much longer.
Got my GT after 8 months ;)
Sounds great but does it have frequent OTA software updates? While I don’t drive long distance much here in the US the reliance on non-Supercharger charge stations would give me some charge anxiety. Anyone have much experience with charging while going cross country using other than Tesla’s Supercharger network?
Driving one of these truly does feel at least a tinge special. I can anecdotally attest to this video: to this day, having had my EV6 for it's third year, never seen a like model in my city and of the ones I have seen, one might've been a one-time occurrence, as I saw that car at the local hospital and never once again.
Likewise, the other EVs seem to be a plentiful around here. I can count on seeing at least half a dozen Ford Mach-E's. Similar number of I.D.4's. And the number of Tesla M3 and MY's are even further staggering. What's peculiar is that the EV6 is better than the Mach-E in many ways. They're quicker (albeit the horsepower numbers wouldn't depict that), they're cheaper, they have 1-pedal driving and they get more range and they charge exponentially faster on CCS+ .
Call me biased, but I also think they're far better looking, too. Mach-E looks like what your high school football team captain looks like 20 years later.
People really slept on this car and many went out and paid the same money or more, for worse options. I think the reason the sales figures and production numbers dropped IS due in part to the fact that yes, they don't technically qualify for the $7500 tax credit given that they aren't manufactured here in the USA. After being handed that handicap by the U.S. federal government, it makes sense for Kia to have slowed in sales/production or both.
I love your sense of sarcasm. I heard you mention hen's teeth and I wonder where did that come from 😂😂😂
Hens teeth is Aussie for very rare. It's a term that's been around for years.
I leased a 2024 EV6 GTLine extended range rwd so impressed and happy with the car. But think I may have gotten screwed on the purchase.
$398 mth 3 yr at 19k mileage but put down total of 13k it's retail value was 56k residual value is 32k
Did I get a deal or got took? Lmk
I see several on the roads in Perth WA but nothing compared to the numbers of model 3 and Y on the roads.
Are you sure of your numbers? I just checked with my local dealer and they have 3 GT-line eAWD on the lot now and more on the way. Checking KIA's web site shows over 30 within 100 miles of me in the dealers lots. I can believe your numbers for the 2022 EV-6 GT, but not all trim levels the EV-6 has. Given what KIA's web site is showing, the north east is either an anomaly or you're only looking at the rare 2022 EV-6 GT. (I really enjoy my 2022 EV-6 with the wind level trim.)
prayers for your wife. stay strong mate
I just checked my local Kia dealer. They supposedly have 10 of them. Their price is $10k above sticker, from $58k to $78k. And they may be great cars, but they still won't have the Supercharger network.
My mate has an EV6. Its great.
As someone purchased an EV6 last month in the US, I can see some additional things here that is hurting it. The first being the perception of kia/hyundai vehicles being easy to steal. Given the kia boys viral challenge. The other is that it seems the government is targeting these certain tesla competitors with the tax credit requirements. It's really a shame. But I do feel like I'm in an exclusive club though.
Hey I’m curious to know, are you enjoying you Ev6? What do you like the most and what u dislike? I’m thinking about getting one soon. Just not sure about the while charging thing yet. Any recommendations
@Bebela1ms I love it. All the worries that you hear day to day means zero to me. I've got a 48A charger at home. I like the more sports car feel from the suspension/road feedback. It's just enough. Now the only issue that I have is the sometimes rattle from the vent flaps behind the rear wheels. That's it.
I waited only 7 months for it 🤩
This vehicle resembles the DeLorean on back to the future
CAN I SAY I JUST ORDERED MY EV6 AWD 325BHP IN BLACK ⚫️ IN JUNE LAST MONTH AND BEEN TOLD I WOLL RECEIVE IT IN SEPTEMBER AS BLACK AND RED ARE ON PRODUCTION MADE ALREADY SO I MUST BE LUCKY IF THATS THE CASE AS I AM HEARIN PEOPLE WAITING AS FAR AS 12 TO 18 MONTHS ?????
HOPE MY SEPTEMBER WILL BE SEPTEMBER 🙏 🙏
i like the ev6....body style is beautiful
It probably didn't help that early models did not have heat pumps for managing battery temperature and hence weould 'coldgate' and 'rapidgate' Even now the heat pump is only standard in the GT and optional on the GT-Line and GT-Line S models.
Which market are you in? I have a 2022 and the car didn't have the software for battery preconditioning but kia recently released it and now I have it on my car.
Also, it was only the RWD cars that did not have the heat pump. I have an early 2022 AWD and have the heat pump.
In the UK, delivery times are the biggest issue for both EV6 and Ioniq 5. I ordered an Ioniq 5, but gave up waiting and got an MG4 instead. Not as good, but available! I wish Hyundai and Kia would pull their fingers out. The iPace was a dud........ Thirsty, poor range, slow charging and expensive!
Great car but in The Netherlands the EV6 GT line has a price of about 62000 euro. That's 10k to high !
Had mine for nearly 2 years now and there is not a car out there to complete with it, and that's before you take into account its fast rapid charging.
I've seen a few Ioniq 5s, the cousin car to the EV6, but not many EV6s. I do think it looks odd and it may be the reason the take rate is lower than the Ioniq 5 which looks very good to my eye. Losing the tax credit in the US doesn't help at all.
ioniq 5 in indonesia took 2 years to deliver, and still not many of them recieved it yet
Production in volume so your car is not as rare as hen's teeth is important. So is having a reliable available charging network. This is an ad for Tesla for those who investigate.
Saw one in Melbourne recently. Challenging looks, but on the upside its expensive. There is no comparison to the i Pace, none.
So... replacement parts? Another Rivian Repair Video? ;-) Is the eSoul in the same class (i.e. non-production model)
Such a great compliance vehicle. 😢
From a purely financial perspective, if they lose money on every sale, then I cannot blame them for not selling many of them. But from a long-term business survival viewpoint, it's madness not to push sales until they become profitable.
It’s a great car to drive too
Agree, EV6 is very nice. Feels like a regular car. Tesla just sucks in comparison
They just don’t want to sell them. You ask dealerships and they don’t even expect to get ONE!
There's only one thing that has kept the EV6 selling like crazy is cost. Bring the GT line (not the GT itself) cost down to the US $40,000 area to compete with the lower cost Model Y, and it'll sell like hotcakes. Okay, there's actually a second: both the EV6 and the high price (for the low range) E-Pace have a massive handicap vs Tesla -- dealers. Take those out of the picture and it's a different story.
First off there is only one factory for the whole world that makes the ev6 so world wide supply is understandably low. Had my 2022 ev6 AWD with tech package and love it in every way, charging, acceleration, ride quality, and so good looking. I had to pay $5000 over sticker. It did include a level2 charger, all-weather mats, window tint, and life long free maintenance. There are several Kia dealers in the Phoenix area that have EV6s in stock but are still trying to rape their customers over sticker price, and with the tax break gone unless you lease this is probably one reason sales have slowed down not because the car isn’t in demand. Kia needs to do what Ford is doing with their greedy dealers and shut that crap down. I’m not sure what compliance means but I see several on the roads in my area and once their factory is up and running in the US that will loosen up the supply.
There are more options and more variety to pick. Honda is coming now. Cadillac has an amazing suv for $69k
My Landlords mother has one she loves it.
Demand outstrips supply that's why few own one, we all know this Viking.
It was on top of my list, but had to wait 30 months (in Belgium), so no thanks ...
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Minimum two year wait in Canada. Same with Hyundai models. USA has Ioniq 5's sitting on lots, with two year waits just north of the border. Makes no sense
You can’t buy it, waiting times are insane. They probably don’t want to sell them for some reason
Yup because In California new tesla owners already tooked delivery on their teslas from model 3 to x plaid. I’m guessing that reason I hardly see them.
I wish to see KiA EV6 with 100kWh battery nett
Honestly the EV6 in my county "Malaysia" is way too expensive. Its more expensive then a EQA here. I will just hold on to my Hybrid till EV price comes further down closer to CIvic price
same as for lithium battery manufacturing.
Either they don’t have a price competitive car that is domestically produced..
Or they simply can not make them quick enough.
Or they simply can’t get the parts for the EV’s because everyone is trying to gather the EV instruments that have a reputation of being of high quality.
And if you depend on others to make parts for your car then the car can’t be made.. it’s that simple…
Australia’s EV6 supply is actually increasing constantly, but the global vehicle shipping crisis is compounded by the MASSIVE port issues in Melbourne due to tens of thousands of cars caught up in quarantine hell, resulting in almost no cars getting through. It’s nothing to do with falling demand. Exactly the opposite.
Boy, I hope not. Ours is hitting the Port on the 13th November this year.
Does this mean the EV6 is a dangerous buy for repairs and so on?
amount wise i mean
well, it may be one of the best EVs, but because it is rare, good luck in finding parts for repair and maintenance. and we all know that with EVs today, regular updates are absolutely essential. i seriously doubt if Kia would bother to spend millions to maintain the software for a soon to be discontinued model.
We had had our Nissan Leaf 40kW for 5 years now. Never felt the need to update it (can't do it over the air anyway), hardly bothered to service it. Changed tires finally. Nothing else. Nada.
We're thinking of changing finally, but my wife is cautious about what can be better, and would never go back to ICE car.
Personally I can’t get over how massive this car is. It’s like at least 15% oversized - same as ionic 5. Stand next to it and it’s like a massive suv. Just weird. I was considering it here in Korea but for this price I’d go for the updated model 3.
On American roads, it is pretty small in comparison to anything else. My EV6 is only slightly larger than my wife’s 2011 Mazda 3 hatchback.
? They are small compared to suvs.
@@IoniqIonityIonna it is practically the same size as the Subaru Crosstrek. I would say each are compact wagons/large hatchbacks. They certainly are not large vehicles.
@@moarpwr4414 Right.
In Canada they probably sold around 1000 ev6 from early 2022 until today. Still waiting for mine ordered in February 3, 2022. If you order one today it’s a minimum of 36 months before you get the car. Kia Canada and Kia worldwide are really bad in fact it’s a real joke.
Could the Ionic 5/6 be cannibalizing sales?
Yes and no. The biggest issue it has now is that the Model Y is just a way better deal. The Kia looks way better in my opinion, but if I was to do it over today, I would choose the Model Y based on value and charging infrastructure.
No Kia still can't make enough of these! I know people still waiting for an EV6 after 1,5 years!
Such a shame. You would think in the light of its awards that Kia would ramp up its production.
this is surprising, i always thougt this and ionic are the best after Tesla.
EV6 definitely costs more to make than to sell.... whoever got one should feel very lucky