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I will just say, the KIA wasn't my first choice on looks and dedicated EV build, the IONIQ 5 was that. BUT, Carwow in the UK did a range test and the KIA went another 30 odd miles compared to the IONIQ 5 and they both share the same kit, one is like a brick, the other is a sleeker design. So yeah, KIA get's me.
Honestly, i hate touch controls in cars for commonly used things. My parent almost drive off the road in their car trying to turn down the heat. Touch controls are distracting and take drivers eyes off the road for no reason. I love 2019 civic hatchback and specifically didn't get the sport version cause it had touch radio controls. Imo it is much safer to have analog buttons that you can feel for and easy use.
I have a 2017 Civic and am going to "upgrade" the climate control panel because for some reason, the Touring trim has far less function. They relegated fan speed control to touch screen FFS, but the lower trim model has full physical controls. Edit- radio doesn't matter to me as I just use Android Auto.
I found it kinda sad that the whole charging situation was just an abstract "it's not a Tesla, lol", while the 800V system of E-GMP in the EV6 and IONIQ5 with (afaik) measured 234kW DC peak and a pretty good charge curve (unless you hit the charger with a snowy-wintery-cold battery, which will be fixed in a software update) is crazy and currently only matched by the Porsche Taycan. Might be that in Canada the cargers aren't really there yet, but please consider that viewers might also come from other parts of the world (or the future) with a working HPC network. As an European example, when I am driving long range between Austria and Germany, most of the chargers I need to stop at could already deliver 350kW DC - and I drive the OG 2016 Hyundai Ioniq EV, so that's actually a veeeeeery uncomfortable amount of chargers I am stopping at, esp. in winter... 😅
The tesla fan club keeps pushing on "the chargers" to try and dissuade people from buying anything but a poorly made tesla. I have a 200kw station 2km's from me if i ever need it and there are many other networks available. I had no idea until last year when i started to research an EV purchase. There's a chain in Canada that has chargers every 250km or less and some of them are even 350kw. I ordered a top spec Ioniq5, won't see it for a year though :( .
@@ianrobertson3419 Well, it's equally annoying when people are just stating that a Tesla's are "poorly made" without probably having any experience with them. I've had a Model 3 for 2.5 years now, without a single issue. And since there's no required service interval, I haven't even been at Tesla since I bought it. Interior still feels and looks like new, and doesn't have small squeaks like my previous BMW. I like the Ioniq 5 and EV6, but the control/UI issues mentioned in the video would kinda keep me from buying it. Well, if I needed the bigger tailgate I would get one of them, since I don't fancy the Model Y looks.
Yeah, I think the charging capabilities of these cars shouldn't be underestimated. The 18 minutes from 10 to 80% figure is quite the statement on the current market. Combined with the range this means you can very practically us this car without having a charger at home. I can own this car, hit a DC charger two or three times a month for 10-15 minutes and keep it in my plugless rental garage instead of having to regularly leave it for hours at a public AC charger. I could do the same with a bunch of other EVs, but those 2-3 charger stops per month would be more like half an hour or more, which makes a difference in general convenience. The Hyundai/Kia EVs are getting to the point where you can operate them just like any conventional ICE car, which is mostly relevant for people that don't own a house. I guess owning a house is rather common in north america. In europe, that's quite a different story though.
@@WyandWombat It is impressive, but the stated 18 minutes is under optimal conditions with battery temperature at just the right level. It's very hard to achieve in the real world, and especially in cold weather it will charge much slower. Also, if the battery is too hot it will throttle, as it doesn't seem to have that much cooling capacity. Anyway, both BMW i4/iX3, and Model 3/Y all charge from 10-80% in around 20 minutes in similar good conditions. So really, there's little difference. Another thing is that EV6/Ioniq 5 supposedly haven't launched with active pre-heating of the battery, which makes them worse when the battery is not warm. But I'm sure Kia/Hyundai will update them with that if they haven't already.
@@tbnzet The information you gave on the other vehicles is not true. Both BMWs need at least half an hour to DC-Charge from 10 to 80%. The same is true for the Tesla Model Y and the Model 3 still needs at least 25 minutes for that. So with the exception of the Model 3, the hyundai groups platform is pretty much twice as fast. While it is correct that the EV6 and Ioniq5 did not launch with active pre-conditioning and only start up their heat management once they are connected to a charger, there is a software update on its way to solve this and the model year 2023 will have that feature from the get go.
You are the only reviewer of the EV6 of the many that i have seen that has so many complaints about dash. It is as if you have never driven an EV before!
When talking about the looks, especially about the rear lights and how cool the 'silhouette lighting' is, it would have been nice if the video actually SHOWED us the damn features instead of just talked about them. It was particularly frustrating cause the video specifically showed examples of similar rear lights on OTHER cars, but NOT THE RUDDY CAR THE VIDEO WAS TALKING ABOUT.
Surprised with the UI issues as that is usually a Kia strong point. I love the UI on my K5. Minus the wireless charging which is pointless if I want to use CarPlay. I had wireless CarPlay in my last Kia, with no wireless charging… then the car with wireless charging does not have wireless CarPlay. That was not thought out…
@@danielmichelin4832 I cannot post links but search for: ev6 wireless android auto kia update works The original thread seems to be removed, but the first hit is still talking about the wireless update: "EV6 Wireless CarPlay and Android Auto (full screen) coming | kind of confirmed"
@@ryan-heath This is huge and is my biggest gripe about the EV6. I assumed wireless was coming and that is why they didn't bother having a better wired charge point. My sales woman sure didn't know about this ! Fabulous if true!
My takeaway from this video is that they have a pretty solid foundation and if they clean up the UI and other smaller things this could be a pretty darned good vehicle in a few years.
Hey I am driving a Kia myself. About the Volume control, you can set climate control on the panel and just use the volume leaver on the steering. About the not presentet map in the display: I asked my dealer about the map feature and they answered they currently cannot integrate a map as there are patents in place by VW group and some other car manufacturers that prevent them from doing so. Else pretty neat review.
The one main thing I love from KIA at the moment is the fact they are designing EV's from what looks like the ground up, its not just slap into an existing model (Yes there are a few KIA's that are) but this and the Ioniq 5 are just refreshing with design and nice to see they are caring about the look
It’s strange how companies making new EVs or just normal cars at this point are seemingly going backwards. The UIs look nice enough, but they are less functional. For example, Audi, for the longest time they had a pretty decent infotainment system that had a look that stayed fairly consistent over almost 10 years, it never looked the most modern but it was very functional. Most companies have had drive modes figured out for years to a basic degree at least and it seems like they all forgot how to do things correctly.
I think the main reason the UI’s all look bad is because they put the worst performing computers inside of them so they can’t do anything good. That’s why I’m hopeful the Qualcomm digital chassis will all this.
@@irwanclark3387 The new chips are plenty fast. It's just that they're making UI changes for the sake of changes. Plagues the whole industry, think the countless website redesigns.
Okay. I have an ev6 wind AWD ive never accidentally hit any of the seat heating or cooling functions. The display behind the steering wheel could have been a bit better. I had to adjust the seat and the wheel to fully see the display. Im 5"9 so it wasn't to bad for me. Taller people may have more problem's. You have an electronic child lock on the driver side door wich is nice if you have small kids. You also have two front seat profiles so you and your partner can get the perfect seating position and not have to worry about changing mirrors or adjusting the seat everytime you switch seat's. Overall im happy with the car. The heating and audio control switching isnt that bad. I normally just use my steering wheel to control the audio and i leave my heating on auto climate. Oh, one last thing. To use the key to move the car you have to get out with the car off lock it the turn it on with the remote start then you can move it. It kinda annoying. It dosnt take long only about 15 20 seconds but its a wait thats not needed. Probably something they can change in an update hopefully. Also you can lock the door from the outside if its on. Also annoying.
Yeah it seemed like the seat + wheel wanted me to be in a higher driving position but then my head would hit the ceiling. Makes sense it would be more comfortable for someone a bit shorter. -AC
I'm guessing that the key moving is something that only people terrible at parking are likely to need to use and so they'll be happy to wait the 15-20 seconds. It annoys you because you could do it much quicker.
Alex has a special talent for car reviews. Straight to the point, right mix of general info/techical insight and not afraid to tell things as they really are...the "hey dieselgate ain't gonna pay for itself" quote about poor interior quality in a past VW group car reviews is the perfect example...in a world of car youtubers who just tell everything is great, this is a very refreshing take.
@@pandasdreamlygon bro we all have little quirks in the way we speak. Im sure you aren’t an exact representation of the language you speak. So respect other people even more if you don’t know them
@@pandasdreamlygon cringe you that writes in the comments like they are going to answer. They are so high up that they don’t hear your unfair criticism. So don’t bother
What is an issue for some reviewers is not really an issue. I checked both the EV6 and IONIQ 5. I picked the Kia. A better-looking car, more aerodynamic, more efficient. Climate control/ Radio-media controls? Not an issue, I control that on the steering wheel and you can set a default display on that. Some reviewers complain about the lack of rear wipers. The rear glass has the same tilt as a sedan, yet nobody complains about the lack of a rear wiper on a sedan. Touching the steering wheel and seat heaters by accident? If you buy the car you get used to that and no issue later. Did you want to love it? I do love it.
I test drove this the other day. To get the "out of car" movement to work, the car must be locked, then press the circle button for a few seconds, which unlocks the movement buttons. Then you can move the car forward and back.
I always get surprised by a car review on shortcircuit. It feels weird, until I think about how much tech is in one now. And I absolutely love each and every one. I am nowhere near a gear head, but Alex has an amazing ability to explain the good and bad about any vehicle he gets in. Keep these coming!
15:25 If the system is the same as the previous Hyundai and Kia cars that have this feature, I think you first have to press the lock button, then remote start the car, and then you can use the ghost ride feature by holding down the button for like 5 seconds.
Maybe during their week of downtime they'll see how many things they got wrong on this review and see how badly the shat on it because of their own ignorance. My EV6 arrived 2 weeks ago and it's laughable how many things on this video are wrong or misrepresented. You can hold the climate/media switch button down to set a default mode and it becomes natural in less than a day.
I have this car, since November 2021, and I just love it! It's one of the first in Portugal, and in my case everyone looks at my care. Also, for the going back and forth with the key outside the car, you gotta have it locked and then click the lock again, then hold the "Hold" button for a bit and then you can choose to go forward or backwards, you can never do it by accident.
Every reviewer complains about media/AC controls bar. To me it seems to be completely fine, because I use media controls on the steering wheel (on my current car, different kia model) and then AC controls can be on that bar 24/7. This is like the most insignificant thing that could possibly exist and I couldn't care less about the media bar.
Honestly, seeing how Linus has three kids about the same age as mine: What is sorely missing in these car reviews is a look at the backseat width. Does it fit three people (or three kids' seats) next to each other? Because there are very few EV mini vans, and this is something us families really, really care about. Other than that, these EV reviews are pretty cool, keep them coming!
From personal experience, this car fits three people quite well, and everyone has felt that the car has a lot of space, just not so much vertical space
Every few months I research for an EV that can fit 3 car-seats. Have not found one yet except, Rivian looks like it might esp the 7 seat one. Ford Lightning will also fit 3 kids since its like the normal f150 and those fit 3 seats really well with one caveat, no anchors for the middle.
I own an EV6 and I agree on some points, but I feel like you're overly focused on finding little niggles this car has. You're not focusing enough on: A) How great the range is. B) How well it drives. C) How great it looks. All this for a very competitive price, especially if you're taking mid- or entry level trim. Overall it's a really strong package. A lot of the stuff you complain about is mostly because you haven't had enough time with the car or used to something else. Like the media controls and A/C sharing the same screen is completely fine. You can use the media controls on the steering wheel or on the main touch screen and just leave it on A/C if it bothers you. The ride quality being harsh I disagree with, it's better than in Teslas, for example. The suspension is sporty but it's definitely not harsh. Maybe your tires are over inflated? Sweet spot is ~35 psi. Driving in i-Pedal mode is not optimal outside stop-and-go city traffic, you get more range by coasting. Which is probably the car changes it when you're driving on long winding roads. Car needs to be locked in order to use the summon feature. It works, I use it all the time.
Man I'm sorry but Alex is terrible with these car reviews they should bring some experts and make a new channel bcz he's destroying this one, seriously he's just complaining in every video and not reviewing anything so he can show us hey look at me I'm the expert I know everything
Agree with your additional comments and of those who have so far replied to your comment. His whinging is insufferable. If he wants to continue on in a career as a critic, perhaps he should switch to something where his nitpicks might be more relevant. Like ice cream or something.
@@ShortCircuit what about ebikes? samething? i personally much prefer ebikes because i think they have much more potential than cars so it would be nice to see more vids about them.🙂
All the negative things he complained about mostly are shared with the Ionic 5....I definitely prefer the looks of the Ionic 5....but he seemed to imply that the Ionic 5 is just better...not sure about that one
Video at 2:01 suddenly gets a bit choppy? Strange since the rest is very nice and smooth! Also why not leave the centerconsole at climatecontrol and use the steeringwheel for media controls? It's not only way safer but also more convenient. Still I 100% agree that it is stupid, especially the heated seat controls. I'm not quite sure about charging being a pain in the ass for non-Tesla vehicles. Maybe in Canada that's a thing but here in the Netherlands you can find quick chargers almost everywhere and plenty of very quick chargers close to highways.
@@startedtech Yes true but even going thru Europe is you wanted to drive to Italy or Southern France it wouldn't really be that big of an issue, especially not compare to Tesla's
this is hilarious. The volt Gen 1 had touch sensitive buttons and almost completely revised the Gen2 to do away with them bc they were so freaking finicky. it's like every car maker just made the original "OOO OTOUCH" so much worse.
Current EV driver here. One of the most important pieces of information I look for in these reviews is how many kW a car can charge at when you plug into a DC fast charging station. My bolt can only charge at 50 kW, the Ioniq 5 will do 350. Big difference. Quick and easy thing to include in your future videos.
Considering that Canada plans to ban the sale of gas vehicles by 2035, this series is getting more and more relevant, I think you guys were early on this, but totally not wrong about the idea. Hoping for more and more content like this later on.
This can't be true? What if its winter outside and you need to drive 300 miles while the windows are defrosted? You guys bringing dog sleds back or what? Does the 98 percent of Canada that is rural not exist to the Canadian government?
@@frogslayer4849 As a Canadian...Realistically speaking, unless it's perfectly implemented, the ban will just keep getting pushed back. It's just how politics works here, 1) have a bold idea. 2) realize the bold idea requires incredible infrastructure upgrades. 3) realize Canada has crap infrastructure to begin with. 4) quietly roll back the plan and hope no one notices. 5) Repeat as necessary.
I bought an EV6. I absolutely love the car. I do agree that the i-Pedal turning off is annoying. It only seems to turn off when the car gets "parked" and put back into drive. Which I actually found to be a great thing overtime as I want it to crawl and stop with break, but drive out on the street with one pedal.
I also have the EV6, but I haven't actually noticed the i-Pedal turning off, I don't use it all the time, but the times I've used it it hasn't turned off on its own
@@1eddy967 1 pedal driving is sub optimal with the EV6 if you are driving in Eco mode. Normally in Eco mode the front motor is disengaged. While in 1 pedal driving mode the front motor stays engaged. I now drive in level 3... and just use the padels to turn on 1 pedal driving as I come to a stop, then back to level 3 when I start moving again.
@@EduMiguel16 I have an EV6. The top trim has a reverse camera, 360 overhead view, and parking sensors. These three things make the car very easy to park.
@@QuantumMechanic343 Thanks, also what's your opinion on the space of the back passengers? I got see the car in person and did a test drive but I noticed there was too much unfilled room for the back passengers, putting them so "far away" of the front passengers and making it harder to talk to each other, for example. I know that on the Ioniq 5 it is possible to move the seats back and forth but not on the EV6
I own a KIA EV6 and the child lock for the backdoors is the lowest most button on the driver side where you open the windows It locks both the rear windows and doors
Easily turning on/off traction control is an underrated feature in cars. I had a Toyota where turning it off was like a Nintendo cheat code: car off, hand brake up start car depress brake 2 times brake brake (hold 2nd brake while doing next step) handbrake down, up, down, up release brake and depress brake 2 more times
the pedal dance is for "true off" the button is a "turn off till the unskilled will kill all the babies" because everyone else in society thinks rear wheel drive is suicidal in winter and half of north america goes post apocalyptic with a little bit of snow. meanwhile the entirety of society did just fine till fwd was normalised... but hey i like driving and think all this tech is just training wheels for people who'd rather ride the bus or drive while eating a bowl of soup and texting
@@kazzTrismus Just to play Devil's advocate, I'm more or less ok with leaving "true off" reserved for the pedal dance. As you say, "everyone else in society thinks rear wheel drive is suicidal in winter and half of north america goes post apocalyptic with a little bit of snow." -- You say that with sarcasm, but on the other hand we all know about the classic "Mustang owner activates pedestrian seeking mode pulling out of a cars and coffee". There is some degree of truth in that the modern average driver just isn't capable of handling modern cars and the ever increasing power creep (especially in "full off" rwd)
The charging part is actually wrong. I advice to watch another review when bein interested in EVs. This car can charge up to 220kW, soon also in the winter by software added pre-conditioning. 220kW would mean to 80% in 18min. Thats faster than Tesla
In my eyes, this was not a really good car review. Lot of facts was missed or spelled wrong. And the criteria you had for the interior are far worse in the Tesla. Therefore, I can not understand how you can prefer the Tesla over the KIA when it is way worse. So somehow an odd review.
In future reviews of hybrids and EV’s, get us what the car sounds like while in reverse! I had a Kia Nero EV rental recently and it was the most obnoxious sound ever! In my week of driving it, I learned that Kia made it impossible to change or adjust the sound short of disconnecting the speaker, which comes with its own set of considerations. Months later after coming home, some poor soul in a parking lot near home got the Nero EV and gets eye rolls from everyone within a 3 block radius every time they park!
Interesting, there was no reverse sound at all when i test drove the car in Sweden 3 weeks ago. Maybe theres some regulation over there that is not here?
I love how you were having fun and being silly while driving this. That's my one problem with basically all the EV's. The dash is very overengineered and just stupid. Everything is way more complicated and unintuitive than it really should be and for the average user it brings a steep learning curve or just hassle to do the simplest things.
You should rent a Tesla when Hertz has them or test drive a friend's and see how non existent the learning curve is. When you only need to look one place and it can show you different things based on situations, it is super intuitive. I borrow my wife's and hate going back.
It is disappointing when reviewers do not taken the time to get familiar with the vehicles that they are reviewing. In this case it starts with the reviewer trying to make a big deal "5 hours" to store the hatch cover when it takes 15 seconds and goes on through how to activate/deactivate the child locks from the drivers seat (it is the standard child window lock button on the driver's door). Most other brands do not even have this feature and you have to do it manually. The water bottle thing is simply that you leave the phone in its wireless slot. As for "head turning", people of all ages have almost broken their necks trying to get an extra glimpse of my EV 6.
For how I use the cars controls, I actually really love Kia's choice to combine climate and volume. Most of my music and navigation is through android auto & Google assistant, and I adjust the volume on the wheel 90% of the time, so just having knobs for temperature instead of tapping on a freaking screen for that appeals so much.
or...stick with me here...they could give you a knob for volume AND a knob for temperature (maybe even a tuning knob!). I know it's hard to believe...but that's how cars were for 50 years.
There is nothing sporty looking about this car... no one looks because its ugly lol. Buttons, mechanical buttons, stop with the touch buttons, I don't understand companies being so obsessed with them... and touch screens, cars have plenty of sun glare in them which shows fingerprints! relax on the touch screens.
To be honest, it is a win that the middleschoolers where impressed by it. I mean, they are the future after all and it's hard enough to convince a person who's daily ride is a petrol car to switch to half/full electric.
Why do car manufacturers have to treat EVs as a tech demo? Why would you replace physical buttons, which provide actual haptic feedback and are much safer to use, with a touchpad where it's not necessary? Controls should be as easily accessible as possible, even without looking.
They honestly need to ban touch screens in cars. Having to fiddle through menus to reach anything that you use to have a single physical button do is going to cause way more accidents. Go back to DIN, use an LED radio control. Easy
Sorry, but this is such a stupid review. If this is not slapstick and you really test the car this way. You should stop making car tests. Whats the stuff with the water bottle. Have you tried the doors? The car in europe might be different, but we have a small notch in die phone pocket for the cable. I can't see this part as clear as to see if you missed it. Sorry, but inform yourselb before you test something. You do it with the other tests.
Am I the only one having issues with stuttering on this video? Idk know what happened, but I think someone forgot to set a 180° shutter or something. Strange jerky motion on multiple playback devices here.
I feel like this is the kind of car that a yearly refresh could REALLY help. The fundamentals are there, just the UI and wheel position could do with some changes.
I like short circuit and Alex but man this was one of the worst reviews on this channel. It felt like he sat down in the car and started rambling about 20 million things he didn’t like about it. There’s a way to be critical, but this was not it.
Why do Millennials upseak every sentence like they’re asking a question when they’re making a statement? It’s really annoying and they sound like four year old children.
Are you planning on reviewing the Ioniq 5? Would love to hear your thoughts. I placed an order for one a few weeks ago, and test drove it. I loved it and am interested in you thoughts!
@@ShortCircuit Awesome! I drove and ordered mine in Kelowna. I'll be waiting about 8 months from order to getting the keys. Unless the current inventory/shipping issues worsen. Great video though and wishing the best for more info from Hyundai for a review unit.
Dude, do your homework! You can set which is the dominant setting. Audio or climate. It will always revert back to what you want. The important climate controls are always there.
I couldn't disagree more with you about the climate control ui. As someone that owns one, it is incredibly easy to use and I appreciate not wasting space on extra buttons when there are some that can do double duty.
I like the car reviews, but can we get reviews of more than just electric cars? The fact remains that electric cars just don't work for those of us who ever need to drive more than 400 miles in a trip without wanting to stop for hours to recharge.
Should have gotten the ioniq5 instead. Sure, looks "chonky", but solves a bit part of the issues you mentioned. It's larger inside. More headroom, not shaky at low speeds, separate media and a/c controls...
Honestly I like the way the Climate Control and Media stuff is in the same place with a touch of a button. I think they could have put the Climate stuff on screen, but I like its a one button system and saves space.
From my experience, this feels like a bunch of teams that didn't really talk to each other except in review meetings making a bunch of new stuff and it turning out... About how you would expect. I expect the second iteration of this to iron out a lot of the inconveniences.
I get it that you want to review cool cars as well, ut you should really consider hiring a dedicated car review person with experience in reviewing cars. Knowledge and comparison to other cars is key to make a good car review.
I had a Hyundai and its Subwoofer was wired in reverse. Once I opened it up and swapped the cables, I suddenly had a LOT of bass. I wouldn't be surprised if Hyundai cars still have this issue.
The powered tailgate is a big deal to parents btw.. Coming out to the car loaded with bags to dump in the trunk and sometimes kids, the extra hand free hand it affords is crucial
the thing about the suspension of EVS is that if they need to cheap out on it they need to install very cheap suspension systems or relly on the car body flexability
I've got an old KIA Picanto, hardly any extra electronics, on it, no inbuilt bluetooth etc, all mine is done with my phone and a blue receiver to the in built radio, far better UI and more reliable. Looks like the KIA EV6 has reasonable range, the front looks nice, but the back not so much. The main problem I have with this car, and this goes with most other car brands, why is their inbuilt 'computer' system so terrible, not just how slow it is, but how its not hardly ever intuitive. More importantly why do people accept it, especially when they spent tens of thousands on the thing.
Thanks for the review. My own mini review: I have had this car since November, and while I think it has plenty of weird quirks, it is mostly positive. A few pointers from my own situation. In my driving position the steering wheel doesn't cover anything that he mentioned, I got used to the climate/audio situation in a few days, About the Tesla thing: i appreciate that the car is more comfortable and quiet than a model 3/Y, and on top of that the EV6 is about 5-10K euro cheaper than a model Y where I live. This is comparing top trim vs "base" model y. Add a color, nicer wheels and enhanced auto pilot (no auto cancelling lane changes nonsense) and you have a car that is 10-15 K more expensive, noisier and less comfortable. Not to be overlooked. A few other things I like: I appreciate the seats being heated, ventilated and alcantara, which is exceedingly rare in the car industry (by far the most ventilated seats are leather, which I dislike), excellent cameras, decent drive assists, good room for the sporty looks, not super tall unlike most cars nowadays, excellent charging speed (230-250 kW up to 50%) which leads the car industry for avg charging speeds, good performance, decent range, unique looks, ride that is a bit firm but never harsh or unrefined (IMO), decent sound proofing.
AGREED, I traded in my 2021 Model 3 since I don't need the terrible build quality that was Tesla. I hated the noise and harshness of the ride. The performance and range were great and some tech but many things left me wanting more. The Kia has much more polarizing looks and more comfortable to drive on highway. The Meridian sound system is a joke and one of the worst for a premium sound system in a top of the line model.
Honestly at this point if you want to be fancy and don't give a shit about cars too much - just get a Tesla. They have THE best EV infrastructure in the US and are at least one generation ahead in the EV game in terms of battery, performance, and software. If I were to buy one at nearly 60k, a Tesla model 3/Y is the best choice albeit the looks are subjective.
Are you sure this model has electronically controlled suspension? I was under the impression that only the GT which comes out at the end of the year has this.
My problem with so many of these cars is how much touch screen they use. I need some tactile buttons to feel. The touch screens feel like they are trying to get me to not look at the road.
Yeah buy a Tesla they're "better" until you get into a small fender bender and they say the car is totaled even though it's bumper damage and it's still drivable and should be replaceable. I'll stick to EV cars that can easily have parts replaced.
Weird review tbh. You focused on a lot of the subjective/nitpicky stuff instead of the cars main features. Felt rushed and like you didn’t put enough time into getting to know the car.
Absolutely detest touch panels in cars...I need to be able to FEEL what I'm using since I can't look away from the road. And yes I have spoken with my wallet on this issue, I ordered my new car based on the fact it has physical buttons. Essential!!
Volume controls/next track are always on your steering wheel so you will not be reaching for them on the dash 90% of the time. Just leave the AC controls displayed.
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I will just say, the KIA wasn't my first choice on looks and dedicated EV build, the IONIQ 5 was that. BUT, Carwow in the UK did a range test and the KIA went another 30 odd miles compared to the IONIQ 5 and they both share the same kit, one is like a brick, the other is a sleeker design. So yeah, KIA get's me.
OMG he does the foot tap thing I do. Never seen anyone else do that.
Why 24fps? Can LTT start doing 30 or 60 fps? The footage looked jerky at points. Can you join 2022 please?
@@robertfullard5646 It’s actually not even a problem for us or them.
The EV6 looks especially great in dark green.
Honestly, i hate touch controls in cars for commonly used things. My parent almost drive off the road in their car trying to turn down the heat. Touch controls are distracting and take drivers eyes off the road for no reason. I love 2019 civic hatchback and specifically didn't get the sport version cause it had touch radio controls. Imo it is much safer to have analog buttons that you can feel for and easy use.
I wanted to give you a thumps up because I completely agree with you, but you already had 69 likes
Honda thinks you are correct, which is why they've made an effort to get rid of touch controls. Made me a lot more likely to want a Type R haha
Yeah it should be regulated honestly. Its a safety hazard.
I have a 2017 Civic and am going to "upgrade" the climate control panel because for some reason, the Touring trim has far less function. They relegated fan speed control to touch screen FFS, but the lower trim model has full physical controls.
Edit- radio doesn't matter to me as I just use Android Auto.
Steering wheel controls are better imo
I found it kinda sad that the whole charging situation was just an abstract "it's not a Tesla, lol", while the 800V system of E-GMP in the EV6 and IONIQ5 with (afaik) measured 234kW DC peak and a pretty good charge curve (unless you hit the charger with a snowy-wintery-cold battery, which will be fixed in a software update) is crazy and currently only matched by the Porsche Taycan. Might be that in Canada the cargers aren't really there yet, but please consider that viewers might also come from other parts of the world (or the future) with a working HPC network. As an European example, when I am driving long range between Austria and Germany, most of the chargers I need to stop at could already deliver 350kW DC - and I drive the OG 2016 Hyundai Ioniq EV, so that's actually a veeeeeery uncomfortable amount of chargers I am stopping at, esp. in winter... 😅
The tesla fan club keeps pushing on "the chargers" to try and dissuade people from buying anything but a poorly made tesla. I have a 200kw station 2km's from me if i ever need it and there are many other networks available. I had no idea until last year when i started to research an EV purchase. There's a chain in Canada that has chargers every 250km or less and some of them are even 350kw. I ordered a top spec Ioniq5, won't see it for a year though :( .
@@ianrobertson3419 Well, it's equally annoying when people are just stating that a Tesla's are "poorly made" without probably having any experience with them. I've had a Model 3 for 2.5 years now, without a single issue. And since there's no required service interval, I haven't even been at Tesla since I bought it. Interior still feels and looks like new, and doesn't have small squeaks like my previous BMW. I like the Ioniq 5 and EV6, but the control/UI issues mentioned in the video would kinda keep me from buying it. Well, if I needed the bigger tailgate I would get one of them, since I don't fancy the Model Y looks.
Yeah, I think the charging capabilities of these cars shouldn't be underestimated. The 18 minutes from 10 to 80% figure is quite the statement on the current market. Combined with the range this means you can very practically us this car without having a charger at home.
I can own this car, hit a DC charger two or three times a month for 10-15 minutes and keep it in my plugless rental garage instead of having to regularly leave it for hours at a public AC charger. I could do the same with a bunch of other EVs, but those 2-3 charger stops per month would be more like half an hour or more, which makes a difference in general convenience.
The Hyundai/Kia EVs are getting to the point where you can operate them just like any conventional ICE car, which is mostly relevant for people that don't own a house. I guess owning a house is rather common in north america. In europe, that's quite a different story though.
@@WyandWombat It is impressive, but the stated 18 minutes is under optimal conditions with battery temperature at just the right level. It's very hard to achieve in the real world, and especially in cold weather it will charge much slower. Also, if the battery is too hot it will throttle, as it doesn't seem to have that much cooling capacity. Anyway, both BMW i4/iX3, and Model 3/Y all charge from 10-80% in around 20 minutes in similar good conditions. So really, there's little difference.
Another thing is that EV6/Ioniq 5 supposedly haven't launched with active pre-heating of the battery, which makes them worse when the battery is not warm. But I'm sure Kia/Hyundai will update them with that if they haven't already.
@@tbnzet The information you gave on the other vehicles is not true. Both BMWs need at least half an hour to DC-Charge from 10 to 80%. The same is true for the Tesla Model Y and the Model 3 still needs at least 25 minutes for that.
So with the exception of the Model 3, the hyundai groups platform is pretty much twice as fast.
While it is correct that the EV6 and Ioniq5 did not launch with active pre-conditioning and only start up their heat management once they are connected to a charger, there is a software update on its way to solve this and the model year 2023 will have that feature from the get go.
You are the only reviewer of the EV6 of the many that i have seen that has so many complaints about dash. It is as if you have never driven an EV before!
He's not a car expert he's nitpicking everything to show us that he knows it all
It's almost like they got people who don't actually drive cars to design the cabin controls.
the front looks sweet but then you start moving to the sides and its reveals itself to be an suv
Nitpick is REALLY the right word here....
Holy cow, I am stunned about what people get annoyed over.
This just makes me want a Bolt EUV more. Kia, you could've done it right!
Dead on about the ride criticisms. I feel that with the premium German EVs too.
"Austin Martin"😂
When talking about the looks, especially about the rear lights and how cool the 'silhouette lighting' is, it would have been nice if the video actually SHOWED us the damn features instead of just talked about them.
It was particularly frustrating cause the video specifically showed examples of similar rear lights on OTHER cars, but NOT THE RUDDY CAR THE VIDEO WAS TALKING ABOUT.
Yes agreed!
100% this
Could possibly be that they couldn’t keep it over night…?
Yeah why didn't we see those pictures of the car? I had to go to Google to figure out what the back of the car looked like lol
@@chaitanyasindagi1237 they did show the back of the car. wtf are you on about.
Surprised with the UI issues as that is usually a Kia strong point. I love the UI on my K5. Minus the wireless charging which is pointless if I want to use CarPlay. I had wireless CarPlay in my last Kia, with no wireless charging… then the car with wireless charging does not have wireless CarPlay. That was not thought out…
Latest software update added wireless CarPlay.
@@ryan-heath Which one?
@@danielmichelin4832 I cannot post links but search for:
ev6 wireless android auto kia update works
The original thread seems to be removed, but the first hit is still talking about the wireless update:
"EV6 Wireless CarPlay and Android Auto (full screen) coming | kind of confirmed"
on kiaevforums
@@ryan-heath This is huge and is my biggest gripe about the EV6. I assumed wireless was coming and that is why they didn't bother having a better wired charge point. My sales woman sure didn't know about this ! Fabulous if true!
My takeaway from this video is that they have a pretty solid foundation and if they clean up the UI and other smaller things this could be a pretty darned good vehicle in a few years.
That wasn’t my take away
My takeaway is that lmg must be staffed by midgets if Alex is only 6' tall!
Is,everyone can't drive and need nanny crap to help them...
My take away is this thing has been designed by seperate teams and nobody thought about an integrated product.
My takeaway is a fish, a meat patty, and half a scoop of chips.
Hey I am driving a Kia myself.
About the Volume control, you can set climate control on the panel and just use the volume leaver on the steering.
About the not presentet map in the display: I asked my dealer about the map feature and they answered they currently cannot integrate a map as there are patents in place by VW group and some other car manufacturers that prevent them from doing so.
Else pretty neat review.
im getting headache of those difference in framerates in different shots
The one main thing I love from KIA at the moment is the fact they are designing EV's from what looks like the ground up, its not just slap into an existing model (Yes there are a few KIA's that are) but this and the Ioniq 5 are just refreshing with design and nice to see they are caring about the look
It’s strange how companies making new EVs or just normal cars at this point are seemingly going backwards. The UIs look nice enough, but they are less functional. For example, Audi, for the longest time they had a pretty decent infotainment system that had a look that stayed fairly consistent over almost 10 years, it never looked the most modern but it was very functional. Most companies have had drive modes figured out for years to a basic degree at least and it seems like they all forgot how to do things correctly.
I think the main reason the UI’s all look bad is because they put the worst performing computers inside of them so they can’t do anything good. That’s why I’m hopeful the Qualcomm digital chassis will all this.
Touch controls are a safety hazard imho.
They always do stupid design stuff with electric cars. I mean look a the design of the earlier electric cars..
@@irwanclark3387 The new chips are plenty fast. It's just that they're making UI changes for the sake of changes. Plagues the whole industry, think the countless website redesigns.
It's the problem of "we can't do lost more stuff with this. So we will" before they thing about user friendliness. It's not a problem limited to cars.
Okay. I have an ev6 wind AWD ive never accidentally hit any of the seat heating or cooling functions. The display behind the steering wheel could have been a bit better. I had to adjust the seat and the wheel to fully see the display. Im 5"9 so it wasn't to bad for me. Taller people may have more problem's. You have an electronic child lock on the driver side door wich is nice if you have small kids. You also have two front seat profiles so you and your partner can get the perfect seating position and not have to worry about changing mirrors or adjusting the seat everytime you switch seat's. Overall im happy with the car. The heating and audio control switching isnt that bad. I normally just use my steering wheel to control the audio and i leave my heating on auto climate. Oh, one last thing. To use the key to move the car you have to get out with the car off lock it the turn it on with the remote start then you can move it. It kinda annoying. It dosnt take long only about 15 20 seconds but its a wait thats not needed. Probably something they can change in an update hopefully. Also you can lock the door from the outside if its on. Also annoying.
Yeah it seemed like the seat + wheel wanted me to be in a higher driving position but then my head would hit the ceiling. Makes sense it would be more comfortable for someone a bit shorter. -AC
I'm guessing that the key moving is something that only people terrible at parking are likely to need to use and so they'll be happy to wait the 15-20 seconds. It annoys you because you could do it much quicker.
@@chaos.corner its also nice when people park like asses and leave no room to get in or out of your car
Alex has a special talent for car reviews. Straight to the point, right mix of general info/techical insight and not afraid to tell things as they really are...the "hey dieselgate ain't gonna pay for itself" quote about poor interior quality in a past VW group car reviews is the perfect example...in a world of car youtubers who just tell everything is great, this is a very refreshing take.
Thanks! Be sure to @ him on Twitter too!
@@ShortCircuit dude u still cant spell porsche right after so many told you how to pronounce it
@@pandasdreamlygon bro we all have little quirks in the way we speak. Im sure you aren’t an exact representation of the language you speak. So respect other people even more if you don’t know them
@@pandasdreamlygon cringe you that writes in the comments like they are going to answer. They are so high up that they don’t hear your unfair criticism. So don’t bother
Actually I've found any reputable car youtuber tells it how it is. Car folks are very persnickety people.
You guys should totally review the ioniq 5 too. Had my eye on that one for a while, interested in seeing how it compares
Savagegeese has a good review on it, but he doesn't get too in depth about the infotainment.
2:00 this is what 1hp looks like
XD
1 horse has 15 hp
@@noredine you're no fun
@@ShortCircuit dude u still cant spell porsche right after so many told you how to pronounce it
@@noredine I don't get this, please explain.
What is an issue for some reviewers is not really an issue. I checked both the EV6 and IONIQ 5. I picked the Kia. A better-looking car, more aerodynamic, more efficient. Climate control/ Radio-media controls? Not an issue, I control that on the steering wheel and you can set a default display on that. Some reviewers complain about the lack of rear wipers. The rear glass has the same tilt as a sedan, yet nobody complains about the lack of a rear wiper on a sedan. Touching the steering wheel and seat heaters by accident? If you buy the car you get used to that and no issue later. Did you want to love it? I do love it.
I test drove this the other day. To get the "out of car" movement to work, the car must be locked, then press the circle button for a few seconds, which unlocks the movement buttons. Then you can move the car forward and back.
I always get surprised by a car review on shortcircuit. It feels weird, until I think about how much tech is in one now. And I absolutely love each and every one. I am nowhere near a gear head, but Alex has an amazing ability to explain the good and bad about any vehicle he gets in. Keep these coming!
Anyone else getting frame rate issues with the video? Seems jittery and it isn’t buffering causing it
Yep, felt the same on my SmartTV, though it was the TV and came here to look if anyone else had the issue
+1
Looks crisp but pretty choppy.
I had to check if my phone was dropping frames
yup a portion of the beginning of the video is at a weirdly low frame rate
+1
15:25 If the system is the same as the previous Hyundai and Kia cars that have this feature, I think you first have to press the lock button, then remote start the car, and then you can use the ghost ride feature by holding down the button for like 5 seconds.
Is there something up with the framerate on this video? After the first like, minute and a half it gets all choppy.
same here, and im pleased to see its not my computer hehe
It gets fixed after the adbreak
Maybe during their week of downtime they'll see how many things they got wrong on this review and see how badly the shat on it because of their own ignorance. My EV6 arrived 2 weeks ago and it's laughable how many things on this video are wrong or misrepresented. You can hold the climate/media switch button down to set a default mode and it becomes natural in less than a day.
I’m gonna be honest. The Austin Martin hurt a little bit
a bit?
Same. It killed a little bit of Britishness in me
@@ThatBulgarian I like Alex so I was trying to be friendly
I have this car, since November 2021, and I just love it! It's one of the first in Portugal, and in my case everyone looks at my care. Also, for the going back and forth with the key outside the car, you gotta have it locked and then click the lock again, then hold the "Hold" button for a bit and then you can choose to go forward or backwards, you can never do it by accident.
Every reviewer complains about media/AC controls bar. To me it seems to be completely fine, because I use media controls on the steering wheel (on my current car, different kia model) and then AC controls can be on that bar 24/7.
This is like the most insignificant thing that could possibly exist and I couldn't care less about the media bar.
Finding faults is so easy.
Honestly, seeing how Linus has three kids about the same age as mine: What is sorely missing in these car reviews is a look at the backseat width. Does it fit three people (or three kids' seats) next to each other? Because there are very few EV mini vans, and this is something us families really, really care about. Other than that, these EV reviews are pretty cool, keep them coming!
I'm sure Alex on Autos can fill you in lol
I know the model 3 just barely fits 3 car seats so I'd assume this would.
From personal experience, this car fits three people quite well, and everyone has felt that the car has a lot of space, just not so much vertical space
"Because there are very few EV mini vans" I assume you mean there are no EV mini vans.
Every few months I research for an EV that can fit 3 car-seats. Have not found one yet except, Rivian looks like it might esp the 7 seat one. Ford Lightning will also fit 3 kids since its like the normal f150 and those fit 3 seats really well with one caveat, no anchors for the middle.
I own an EV6 and I agree on some points, but I feel like you're overly focused on finding little niggles this car has. You're not focusing enough on:
A) How great the range is.
B) How well it drives.
C) How great it looks.
All this for a very competitive price, especially if you're taking mid- or entry level trim. Overall it's a really strong package.
A lot of the stuff you complain about is mostly because you haven't had enough time with the car or used to something else. Like the media controls and A/C sharing the same screen is completely fine. You can use the media controls on the steering wheel or on the main touch screen and just leave it on A/C if it bothers you.
The ride quality being harsh I disagree with, it's better than in Teslas, for example. The suspension is sporty but it's definitely not harsh. Maybe your tires are over inflated? Sweet spot is ~35 psi.
Driving in i-Pedal mode is not optimal outside stop-and-go city traffic, you get more range by coasting. Which is probably the car changes it when you're driving on long winding roads.
Car needs to be locked in order to use the summon feature. It works, I use it all the time.
You are spot on. Not a well informed review
Man I'm sorry but Alex is terrible with these car reviews they should bring some experts and make a new channel bcz he's destroying this one, seriously he's just complaining in every video and not reviewing anything so he can show us hey look at me I'm the expert I know everything
Agree with your additional comments and of those who have so far replied to your comment. His whinging is insufferable. If he wants to continue on in a career as a critic, perhaps he should switch to something where his nitpicks might be more relevant. Like ice cream or something.
I’m surprised that electric cars aren’t covered on ShortCircuit more often. A shame that this one didn’t live up to the hype, though.
It's primarily about getting access, so if more car companies want to send cars to us to try out for a couple of days. We're up for it!
This car does lives up to the hype, it’s cheaper than Tesla
@@ShortCircuit that's good to hear🙂
It's been named car of the year, it can't be that bad. 😅
@@ShortCircuit what about ebikes? samething? i personally much prefer ebikes because i think they have much more potential than cars so it would be nice to see more vids about them.🙂
All the negative things he complained about mostly are shared with the Ionic 5....I definitely prefer the looks of the Ionic 5....but he seemed to imply that the Ionic 5 is just better...not sure about that one
Love how you're branching out from pcs more and more.
Keep up all the good work!
Video at 2:01 suddenly gets a bit choppy? Strange since the rest is very nice and smooth! Also why not leave the centerconsole at climatecontrol and use the steeringwheel for media controls? It's not only way safer but also more convenient. Still I 100% agree that it is stupid, especially the heated seat controls.
I'm not quite sure about charging being a pain in the ass for non-Tesla vehicles. Maybe in Canada that's a thing but here in the Netherlands you can find quick chargers almost everywhere and plenty of very quick chargers close to highways.
I mean the Netherlands is pretty damn small even compared to like any US state...
@@startedtech Yes true but even going thru Europe is you wanted to drive to Italy or Southern France it wouldn't really be that big of an issue, especially not compare to Tesla's
Is this video 20fps or something?
this is hilarious. The volt Gen 1 had touch sensitive buttons and almost completely revised the Gen2 to do away with them bc they were so freaking finicky. it's like every car maker just made the original "OOO OTOUCH" so much worse.
Current EV driver here. One of the most important pieces of information I look for in these reviews is how many kW a car can charge at when you plug into a DC fast charging station. My bolt can only charge at 50 kW, the Ioniq 5 will do 350. Big difference. Quick and easy thing to include in your future videos.
theres something wrong with the framerate of this video
The single bar for Audio/Climate control is a non-issue.
Considering that Canada plans to ban the sale of gas vehicles by 2035, this series is getting more and more relevant, I think you guys were early on this, but totally not wrong about the idea. Hoping for more and more content like this later on.
These videos are useful for viewers from many foreign countries too, as it's not just canada phasing out ice cars.
EU has the goal as 2030, so its relevant in more places than canada :p
This can't be true? What if its winter outside and you need to drive 300 miles while the windows are defrosted? You guys bringing dog sleds back or what? Does the 98 percent of Canada that is rural not exist to the Canadian government?
@@frogslayer4849 As a Canadian...Realistically speaking, unless it's perfectly implemented, the ban will just keep getting pushed back.
It's just how politics works here, 1) have a bold idea. 2) realize the bold idea requires incredible infrastructure upgrades. 3) realize Canada has crap infrastructure to begin with. 4) quietly roll back the plan and hope no one notices. 5) Repeat as necessary.
@@frogslayer4849 Nothing stopping you from buying a used gas car after that, or owning one.
Anyone noticed how choppy the video is after the first min? Edit: 1:54
I bought an EV6. I absolutely love the car. I do agree that the i-Pedal turning off is annoying. It only seems to turn off when the car gets "parked" and put back into drive. Which I actually found to be a great thing overtime as I want it to crawl and stop with break, but drive out on the street with one pedal.
I also have the EV6, but I haven't actually noticed the i-Pedal turning off, I don't use it all the time, but the times I've used it it hasn't turned off on its own
@@1eddy967 1 pedal driving is sub optimal with the EV6 if you are driving in Eco mode. Normally in Eco mode the front motor is disengaged. While in 1 pedal driving mode the front motor stays engaged. I now drive in level 3... and just use the padels to turn on 1 pedal driving as I come to a stop, then back to level 3 when I start moving again.
What do you think on back parking? having a long wheelbase makes it harder to park?
@@EduMiguel16 I have an EV6. The top trim has a reverse camera, 360 overhead view, and parking sensors. These three things make the car very easy to park.
@@QuantumMechanic343 Thanks, also what's your opinion on the space of the back passengers? I got see the car in person and did a test drive but I noticed there was too much unfilled room for the back passengers, putting them so "far away" of the front passengers and making it harder to talk to each other, for example. I know that on the Ioniq 5 it is possible to move the seats back and forth but not on the EV6
Respect for mentioning lc2i. Easiest way to grab speaker line output and convert it to a sub output on the cheap.
I own a KIA EV6 and the child lock for the backdoors is the lowest most button on the driver side where you open the windows
It locks both the rear windows and doors
So, I have the ev6, and everything you complained about are absolutely not problems at all.
Also the cooled seats come in all the models, not just the GT
Easily turning on/off traction control is an underrated feature in cars. I had a Toyota where turning it off was like a Nintendo cheat code:
car off, hand brake up
start car
depress brake 2 times brake brake (hold 2nd brake while doing next step)
handbrake down, up, down, up
release brake and depress brake 2 more times
so bad that it becomes funny lol
Lmao on my VW GLI its a button press
That no way thats how its supposed to be done, but ive seen stupider things so i could be wrong.
the pedal dance is for "true off"
the button is a "turn off till the unskilled will kill all the babies"
because everyone else in society thinks rear wheel drive is suicidal in winter and half of north america goes post apocalyptic with a little bit of snow.
meanwhile the entirety of society did just fine till fwd was normalised...
but hey i like driving and think all this tech is just training wheels for people who'd rather ride the bus or drive while eating a bowl of soup and texting
@@kazzTrismus Just to play Devil's advocate, I'm more or less ok with leaving "true off" reserved for the pedal dance.
As you say, "everyone else in society thinks rear wheel drive is suicidal in winter and half of north america goes post apocalyptic with a little bit of snow." -- You say that with sarcasm, but on the other hand we all know about the classic "Mustang owner activates pedestrian seeking mode pulling out of a cars and coffee".
There is some degree of truth in that the modern average driver just isn't capable of handling modern cars and the ever increasing power creep (especially in "full off" rwd)
The charging part is actually wrong. I advice to watch another review when bein interested in EVs. This car can charge up to 220kW, soon also in the winter by software added pre-conditioning. 220kW would mean to 80% in 18min. Thats faster than Tesla
I advice
In my eyes, this was not a really good car review. Lot of facts was missed or spelled wrong. And the criteria you had for the interior are far worse in the Tesla. Therefore, I can not understand how you can prefer the Tesla over the KIA when it is way worse. So somehow an odd review.
In future reviews of hybrids and EV’s, get us what the car sounds like while in reverse! I had a Kia Nero EV rental recently and it was the most obnoxious sound ever! In my week of driving it, I learned that Kia made it impossible to change or adjust the sound short of disconnecting the speaker, which comes with its own set of considerations.
Months later after coming home, some poor soul in a parking lot near home got the Nero EV and gets eye rolls from everyone within a 3 block radius every time they park!
Yep, i have the e-niro and the sound is horrible.
I saw you can pull a fuse to disable it, but that also disables the high speed air bleed. ruclips.net/video/I2ubIWLBVnY/видео.html
Interesting, there was no reverse sound at all when i test drove the car in Sweden 3 weeks ago. Maybe theres some regulation over there that is not here?
I love how you were having fun and being silly while driving this. That's my one problem with basically all the EV's. The dash is very overengineered and just stupid. Everything is way more complicated and unintuitive than it really should be and for the average user it brings a steep learning curve or just hassle to do the simplest things.
Nah, you hear Haven been in a new car in a while. This is pretty much the same as most new cars.
@@littlejackalo5326 true, but it seems way more apparent or overdone in EVs.
that's when you get a leaf it still seems pretty basic inside.
You should rent a Tesla when Hertz has them or test drive a friend's and see how non existent the learning curve is. When you only need to look one place and it can show you different things based on situations, it is super intuitive. I borrow my wife's and hate going back.
It is disappointing when reviewers do not taken the time to get familiar with the vehicles that they are reviewing. In this case it starts with the reviewer trying to make a big deal "5 hours" to store the hatch cover when it takes 15 seconds and goes on through how to activate/deactivate the child locks from the drivers seat (it is the standard child window lock button on the driver's door). Most other brands do not even have this feature and you have to do it manually. The water bottle thing is simply that you leave the phone in its wireless slot. As for "head turning", people of all ages have almost broken their necks trying to get an extra glimpse of my EV 6.
For how I use the cars controls, I actually really love Kia's choice to combine climate and volume. Most of my music and navigation is through android auto & Google assistant, and I adjust the volume on the wheel 90% of the time, so just having knobs for temperature instead of tapping on a freaking screen for that appeals so much.
Or they could not combine it and still give you temperature control knobs... Like the proper cars do.
or...stick with me here...they could give you a knob for volume AND a knob for temperature (maybe even a tuning knob!). I know it's hard to believe...but that's how cars were for 50 years.
@@isaackvasager9957 our 2015 mid range car is like that...
Exactly. I own an EV6. Controls on steering wheel and big ol’ 12” screen. AC down below.
@@the_tiny_Rambo I seriously fail to see why so many people need temperature controles within reach on a daily basis. Set once, forget.
There is nothing sporty looking about this car... no one looks because its ugly lol. Buttons, mechanical buttons, stop with the touch buttons, I don't understand companies being so obsessed with them... and touch screens, cars have plenty of sun glare in them which shows fingerprints! relax on the touch screens.
To be honest, it is a win that the middleschoolers where impressed by it. I mean, they are the future after all and it's hard enough to convince a person who's daily ride is a petrol car to switch to half/full electric.
Why do car manufacturers have to treat EVs as a tech demo? Why would you replace physical buttons, which provide actual haptic feedback and are much safer to use, with a touchpad where it's not necessary? Controls should be as easily accessible as possible, even without looking.
Thanks for covering this car! Love it when you guys cover electric cars
More to come!
@@ShortCircuit dude u still cant spell porsche right after so many told you how to pronounce it
They honestly need to ban touch screens in cars. Having to fiddle through menus to reach anything that you use to have a single physical button do is going to cause way more accidents.
Go back to DIN, use an LED radio control. Easy
I like these reviews and I hope ShortCircuit gets to review a Polestar car.
Sorry, but this is such a stupid review. If this is not slapstick and you really test the car this way. You should stop making car tests.
Whats the stuff with the water bottle. Have you tried the doors? The car in europe might be different, but we have a small notch in die phone pocket for the cable. I can't see this part as clear as to see if you missed it. Sorry, but inform yourselb before you test something. You do it with the other tests.
You guys could probably run a car channel at this point. Alex is killing it
I'd love that because I absolutely hate their car reviews and I would stop getting notified about them!
@@Dranzell what exactly do you dislike?
@@android-user Alex.
Am I the only one having issues with stuttering on this video? Idk know what happened, but I think someone forgot to set a 180° shutter or something. Strange jerky motion on multiple playback devices here.
Early gang!
I feel like this is the kind of car that a yearly refresh could REALLY help. The fundamentals are there, just the UI and wheel position could do with some changes.
I like short circuit and Alex but man this was one of the worst reviews on this channel. It felt like he sat down in the car and started rambling about 20 million things he didn’t like about it. There’s a way to be critical, but this was not it.
I like the car content
Why do Millennials upseak every sentence like they’re asking a question when they’re making a statement? It’s really annoying and they sound like four year old children.
Are you planning on reviewing the Ioniq 5? Would love to hear your thoughts. I placed an order for one a few weeks ago, and test drove it. I loved it and am interested in you thoughts!
We're waiting to hear back
@@ShortCircuit Awesome! I drove and ordered mine in Kelowna. I'll be waiting about 8 months from order to getting the keys. Unless the current inventory/shipping issues worsen. Great video though and wishing the best for more info from Hyundai for a review unit.
Dude, do your homework! You can set which is the dominant setting. Audio or climate. It will always revert back to what you want. The important climate controls are always there.
I couldn't disagree more with you about the climate control ui. As someone that owns one, it is incredibly easy to use and I appreciate not wasting space on extra buttons when there are some that can do double duty.
finally someone with some logical sense. How many times do you set your temp in your car? uhm never, they are clever enoug that we dont need that.
I like the car reviews, but can we get reviews of more than just electric cars? The fact remains that electric cars just don't work for those of us who ever need to drive more than 400 miles in a trip without wanting to stop for hours to recharge.
Should have gotten the ioniq5 instead. Sure, looks "chonky", but solves a bit part of the issues you mentioned. It's larger inside. More headroom, not shaky at low speeds, separate media and a/c controls...
Honestly I like the way the Climate Control and Media stuff is in the same place with a touch of a button. I think they could have put the Climate stuff on screen, but I like its a one button system and saves space.
From my experience, this feels like a bunch of teams that didn't really talk to each other except in review meetings making a bunch of new stuff and it turning out... About how you would expect.
I expect the second iteration of this to iron out a lot of the inconveniences.
I get it that you want to review cool cars as well, ut you should really consider hiring a dedicated car review person with experience in reviewing cars.
Knowledge and comparison to other cars is key to make a good car review.
I had a Hyundai and its Subwoofer was wired in reverse. Once I opened it up and swapped the cables, I suddenly had a LOT of bass. I wouldn't be surprised if Hyundai cars still have this issue.
The powered tailgate is a big deal to parents btw.. Coming out to the car loaded with bags to dump in the trunk and sometimes kids, the extra hand free hand it affords is crucial
the thing about the suspension of EVS is that if they need to cheap out on it they need to install very cheap suspension systems or relly on the car body flexability
If they wanted to cheap out they wouldn't have put in electronically controlled damping.
I've got an old KIA Picanto, hardly any extra electronics, on it, no inbuilt bluetooth etc, all mine is done with my phone and a blue receiver to the in built radio, far better UI and more reliable.
Looks like the KIA EV6 has reasonable range, the front looks nice, but the back not so much. The main problem I have with this car, and this goes with most other car brands, why is their inbuilt 'computer' system so terrible, not just how slow it is, but how its not hardly ever intuitive.
More importantly why do people accept it, especially when they spent tens of thousands on the thing.
Thanks for the review. My own mini review: I have had this car since November, and while I think it has plenty of weird quirks, it is mostly positive. A few pointers from my own situation.
In my driving position the steering wheel doesn't cover anything that he mentioned, I got used to the climate/audio situation in a few days,
About the Tesla thing: i appreciate that the car is more comfortable and quiet than a model 3/Y, and on top of that the EV6 is about 5-10K euro cheaper than a model Y where I live. This is comparing top trim vs "base" model y. Add a color, nicer wheels and enhanced auto pilot (no auto cancelling lane changes nonsense) and you have a car that is 10-15 K more expensive, noisier and less comfortable. Not to be overlooked.
A few other things I like: I appreciate the seats being heated, ventilated and alcantara, which is exceedingly rare in the car industry (by far the most ventilated seats are leather, which I dislike), excellent cameras, decent drive assists, good room for the sporty looks, not super tall unlike most cars nowadays, excellent charging speed (230-250 kW up to 50%) which leads the car industry for avg charging speeds, good performance, decent range, unique looks, ride that is a bit firm but never harsh or unrefined (IMO), decent sound proofing.
AGREED, I traded in my 2021 Model 3 since I don't need the terrible build quality that was Tesla. I hated the noise and harshness of the ride. The performance and range were great and some tech but many things left me wanting more. The Kia has much more polarizing looks and more comfortable to drive on highway. The Meridian sound system is a joke and one of the worst for a premium sound system in a top of the line model.
I don't understand the hard on for TOUCH SCREEN EVERYTHING!
Buttons are always better. I hate this trend.
From 1:55 to 5:03 the Video feels kind of "choppy" (micro stuttering?). I tired watching it in another browser but its the same.
Sometimes physical buttons is still way better than a touch surface
especially in a car driving, you'll just bump into all the touch button
Honestly at this point if you want to be fancy and don't give a shit about cars too much - just get a Tesla. They have THE best EV infrastructure in the US and are at least one generation ahead in the EV game in terms of battery, performance, and software.
If I were to buy one at nearly 60k, a Tesla model 3/Y is the best choice albeit the looks are subjective.
Are you sure this model has electronically controlled suspension? I was under the impression that only the GT which comes out at the end of the year has this.
My problem with so many of these cars is how much touch screen they use. I need some tactile buttons to feel. The touch screens feel like they are trying to get me to not look at the road.
LMG dedicated car channel when? Feel like you guys are testing the waters by cycling car content across your channels.
Yeah buy a Tesla they're "better" until you get into a small fender bender and they say the car is totaled even though it's bumper damage and it's still drivable and should be replaceable. I'll stick to EV cars that can easily have parts replaced.
Weird review tbh. You focused on a lot of the subjective/nitpicky stuff instead of the cars main features. Felt rushed and like you didn’t put enough time into getting to know the car.
Absolutely detest touch panels in cars...I need to be able to FEEL what I'm using since I can't look away from the road. And yes I have spoken with my wallet on this issue, I ordered my new car based on the fact it has physical buttons. Essential!!
Just bought one and love it. This car is like alien technology compared to anything I have driven.
Why was the motion so bad in this video
Looked like 12 fps....
Made me check my TV settings
It looks good in blue ngl, and Kia's rebranding is fire, now they look more luxurious and sporty
There are lag/stutter at some part of the video that made me think that something was wrong with me PC......
There is a guy casually riding a horse in the background.
How rad is that!
Wow, this video is remarkably boring compared to your other car videos.
Volume controls/next track are always on your steering wheel so you will not be reaching for them on the dash 90% of the time. Just leave the AC controls displayed.