It's Small But Huge! KEF KF92 Subwoofer Review & Demo
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- We review the KEF KF92 subwoofer. Is it better than the KC62.
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*2:38** IT SHOULD SAY "SOUND" AND NOT SETUP AGAIN 🤦🏻♂️*
haha
Only if these had front firing drivers
Why aren't you reviewing JTR Audio ?
I was completely satisfied with my Paradigm subwoofer until I brought the KF92 home! The 11Hz low-bass extension gets all the glory, but I'm equally as impressed by how low the distortion is from this subwoofer. It is simply unheard of to have a subwoofer with this amount of clean, detailed bass; with unbelievable low bass extension; while also being in such a small cabinet. A next-generation subwoofer indeed. Amazing.
I think your the first person to say they have one. Crazy good bass for a small package. Enjoy! 🥂
Can you tell iff it will plays loud enough at -15db to Mastervolume?
Class a, with sankens ssa, and 1.4kw to each sub on a forth oder band pass is the way, jensen avx21 is the best sub u can get handles any power if you’re subs can handle it
Butttt! for my pc system this will be perfect
11hz at what output? Number from another massive sub is 12.5hz 96.4db. I'd want to see what these micro subs can do
Quality review as always and always helpful when you run compares vs your existing equipment and other similarly priced subs
These sound great with music aswell due to their sealed design and very fast bass response. It makes integration with speakers quite easy. The fact it can be used with movies and still go down to 11hz is awesome for audiophiles.
There's going down to 11Hz and then there's having some meaningful output at 11Hz - it's clear from Edge of Tomorrow that these were rolling off pretty majorly way before 11Hz. Impressive for the size nonetheless.
Scott McKenzie you're right!
I love the demo bro. The best so far!! It feels like I'm there enjoying the movie.
I do read about KEF subs often, typically in the discussions of musical subs in 2ch setups. They come up often in discussions with comparisons to REL, and Martin Logan. HT not as much as they're tuned and voiced for tightness and impact rather than SPL and ULF. In smaller rooms with significant room gain, sealed, compact subs are the way to go.
Thanks for the great review (as usual .. ). Do you recommend the kf92 or JL audio e110 for 50/50 music and movies ?
Great review. I can't believe that little sub goes down to 11 hz. I was going to ask for a measurement but then you showed one, so i guess it does. 'Shocking.
Did i miss this bit? I didn't see a measurement?
What do you think of the JL Audio Dominion 10 ? Have you ever done a review on them?
Wow even tho you cant get the full reaction of the sub you can see it handles it's own pretty damn good
Interesting can’t wait to here your opinion on this model
Great review. What’s your opinion on 2 of these vs 2 Rhythmik E22s for a 12x14.5 (1650 cu ft) high end home theater room?
Shane, what are your room dimensions? Just curious because like you mentioned, the room dimensions play a big role.
Nice video Shane
Between kef 8b reference against kef kc92 which one is sounds better or are they the same. they both have the same 9 inch drive?
what speakers are you using with the subwoofer in this review?
any ideas about kef kube 12b ? would it be better for music than svs sb 2000?
How do these compare to the elac 3070 as they are both force canceling, but the kef have 9" with more power as compared to the elac 12" with less power
I subscribed as soon as I saw the media rack.
have you tested the Arendal 1723 Subwoofer 2S? If so, how does it compare to the KEF and B&W DB3D?
Hello, from a music listening point of view, which of these subwoofers in your opinion would have the best transient response to match my Quad electrostatics? SVS 3000 or Kef KC62 or Kef92 or Q-Acoustic QB12. Very high level listening is not so important to me. Thank you.
Ok I just tested this woofer. It is very impressive for a small cabinet like this. The extension can reach low and deep. The driver worked effortlessly at 47 to 50 percent volume. It is tight and sharp for this size too. My only complaint is that it is too glossy. Easily to suffer micro scratches on the exterior. The price also increased by quite alot now. If you are lacking space and still wants something that rocks, have money to spend, this is the woofer to get.
Great video brother. That REW graph was impressive for 9" drivers.
I was surprised that did so well. Impressive little subs.
@@therealshaneleeI was quite surprised too. Did you do any compression testing, or max spl measurements?
How does it compare to rel 1508?
Hi. I have KEF Reference 1 speakers. Would you recommend this subwoofer for them?
Ps. I've had B&W PV1D subwoofer but I've sold it. The bass from KEF Reference 1 is better.
Just bought one based on this review. Thanks for reviewing this I don't think I would have heard of this one without this video. My 14 year old Elemental Designs 15' sub just started dying, hopefully this is a great replacement!
Let me know what you think of this subwoofer. I am looking for one too. Don't know if I am buying the Arendal subs or this one.
@@Kwarkiemodo it came in yesterday, hooked it up today. While I haven't completely dialed it in yet so far I'm extremely impressed. I thought my 15" ED was great for years, and never really thought of replacing it until it started making rattling noise. It was also way too big a box at around 25" around to be reasonable in my small living room. So far the KEF is just on another level. The amount of output for such a small box is incredible, and I'm only at 50% volume. There is tangible output all the way down to 10 hz, things are shaking in my room that never have before. No cabinet resonance, it can be going full blast and if you put your hand on the box there's no vibration at all. Super tight bass as well, it can start and stop on a dime. I can't forsee ever needing more or bigger bass, I just don't think anything could do better, especially at this size in my space. Highly recommend.
@@IkariWarrior1701 Thanks for notifying me back. Good to hear you like the subwoofer so much!
I'm still hesitating which one to buy. I think the size of the subwoofer is very important and that it has a tight bass in music but can also produce nice low sound in movies.
The Arendal 1923 2s has almost the same price. 1200 watts with 17-200hz at 3db. But the size is much bigger.
Could just go with the Arendal 1923 1s with 800 watts at a much lower price (1299).
Don't know what's smart. The Arendal gives 5 years warranty on the amplifier and KEL 2 years. Have read that their old amplifiers gave a lot of problems. Also the size of the subwoofer is very important. Want to keep my wife happy too:).
Just do not see a white version of the Kel and I have everything white in terms of speakers.
@@Kwarkiemodo Yeah unfortunately there is no white option. I was lucky enough to get this one for $1599. Hearing it could actually hit 11 hz at volume and it's incredibly small size sold me on it. Also hearing Shane say he thought he'd left his 18" sub on when these were going was pretty big praise. I had never considered KEF a subwoofer company until seeing this review, I'd always assumed I'd go with an SVS or HSU.
@@IkariWarrior1701 nice price! Very nice. Well I can't go wrong with Arendal either. But we shall see. Wait till end of the year. Maybe a great discount.
First impression...wow love the design. Second emotion... want this now ...3rd reaction...wallet cries lol - how does it compare to Rel 7 or Svs SB 2000/3000
Haha, I loved the "god damn" smile
What's the cubic footage of your room?
Hi SpareChange, thanks for the review. Any idea when we can expect the review on the 18" Ascendo subwoofer? Looking forward to your review and impressions!
Likely this week.
Have you tried the Golden Ear super sub xxl?
Are the kef KF 92 better than b&w db3d then?.
Reading the specs and considering the size of the subs I thought they might of been a bit exaggerated but I’m well impressed!!
Those reaction shots... 😂🤣😆
😂😂
wow, now that I have 1 kf92, this video is much more impactful!
😁
And how is the subwoofer? Do you like it? Did you got others before and how does this one stands out?
@@Kwarkiemodo first I have a Klipsch R-100SW 10" subwoofer, which is ported, and sounds very muddy at higher volumes, I got this sub to pair with my Klipsch R-15PMs
then I got the KEF LS50w, and so I got the KEF R400b off of ebay...
it sounded really clean and tight, but would only run for 30mins before it would make crackling noises, so I wasted a few bucks there...
Now I have this KF92, by far the most expensive sub that I have ever purchased
2K for essentially a 12" sub is well..a lot
but it has improved the experience of my 2.1 channel system by a lot!
there is so much more information in the tracks that I didn't feel before
I still need to get it calibrated properly into my room and system
then this sub should be able to enhance frequency below 100Hz
What kinda equalizer app is on the ipad?
awesome man ! great videos, are you planning to review any sub from JTR like Captivator 2400 ? that would be amazin I'd love to see what you have to say about them
That is not going to happen. Jeff has said some unflattering things about the channel in the past.
@@keepingupwiththejones2933 whos jeff ? xD
@@RS1925 The owner of JTR, Jeff Permanian.
Another interesting subwoofer for us home cinema enthusiasts, don’t think we’ve have had it so good with the variety of subs that we can purchase. Shane any plans to review some JL Audio subs especially the Fathom range?
I've reached out. We shall see.
Can u do an review of the arendal 1723 sub 2 also then. ?
Hi nice review....can you brief on the positions you ve tried with the dual subs...in that room.
Was wondering the same thing. If using two to increase spl, they must be in the same location such as stacked. That stacked setup would be more of a fair comparison to a larger sub like PB-16. If the two 92s are placed at different spots, there will be less of an increase in spl but the bass will be more even across the listening area.
Would you consider this an upgrade or the clear winner vs a Def Tech supercube 6000 or 8000?
Get this one.
You'll have to talk them into sending you the Reference 8b to try next... not sure what it offers over the KF92 as the specs look similar, other than that XLR input!
Nice!
The Sharkey explanation of his opposing spkr design wasn't very good. Do they work in phase or out of phase from each other? In phase would be both moving out at the same time. Within one cabinet, they are both active drivers correct?
Good review Shane. These smaller sealed subs seem to be getting better and better.
Bruce Carter are you schizophrenic? In one video you are taking a shit on Shane and Elias. In this video you are trying to make nice. You must be back on your meds today.
Simply put...I’m not a fanboy like you. I call out BS when I see it.
Grow up and stop acting like a child.
Shane Hi!! Thank you for your help so far! I have a question that you always use 2 subs!! How good is the pairing if I put a Rel T9i next to a Kef 92 as a second sub? Thank you
They don't sound alike at all.
@@therealshanelee Thanks!! Would the Kef 92 direction be better? Better than Rel? Thank you, have a nice day!!
The graph is really impressive. Being flat down to 10hz in room is one of the reasons i like sealed subs. 105db is damn impressive, 95% of people buying 2 of these will most like never push them that hard anyway.
Can't image what a 12 inch dual opposed subs from KEF would do.
wow, I'm limited by trying to fit the subwoofers in a cabinet with a front mesh grill. My limitation is 18.5" wide, 19" deep, and 28" height. What would you recommend? I have bowers & wilkins CWM 8.3D in wall speakers. and 4 CT SW12 but the bass doesn't go low enough. I've been wanting to swap out the subwoofers with something that I can feel but limited to the cabinet. Suggestions?
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Did you try it with music?
So how do these compare to the Rel 1502's nice review's as always..
If you mean the 1205's then they are a much better sub than those. They should be though. They cost twice as much.
Whoa… I’m very, very impressed…
I hope the next version has XLR balanced ins …. Only thing its missing is DSP to integrate better into main speakers
Balanced = better is a myth
When you get interference through an unbalanced cable a balanced cable will start making sense. So a myth it is not.
From the response chart it looks like these shouldn't be crossed over higher than 80hz. Accurate?
Always set the main speakers at small and at 80 hz. De subs will do the rest. Because they are more accurate than your speakers.
Yo dude, aren't you using windscreen for your microphone? For narration I mean?
That Subwoofer looks Nice 🔊🔊🎶!
It ain't bad.
@@therealshanelee sb3000 or these who wins or the pb3000
@@waymonfrench2077 I asked Shane this very question last night in a late night chat.... I asked SB3000 or SB4000 and he said he'd go with the KEF KF92.
@@frankvee introsting, the kf95 is to high for it size regardless if it hits 11hz and have dual drivers
@@frankvee also these subs should've been front fireing instead of side fireing ,that causes placement issues, like corners, up near tv stands ,towers next to sofa any furniture etc
My question is ...
Are the subs arranged in a push pull configuration or a compression set up ?
the latter
Thank bro for the realy realy good review! At the moment i have a kef kube 12b and im a bit disapointed because i habe a big living room(35qm) and i hear at high volumes(-18db with audyssey dynamic eq at 0db and i get some distrubtion with this sub. Do you hear any distrubtion from the kf92 at higher levels?
Remember this is a tiny sub. If your driving it to hard it'll have a hard time keeping up. If you have two it's less strain and should have no problems filling your room.
@@therealshanelee thank you:)
@@therealshanelee sorry again, but didn t you thing that this Sub will be better than the Kube 12b? They Weight the Same but the Kube12 is litttle bigger with 300watt and one 12inch Driver. Its output is enough for me the Problem is that the
fabric covering makes nois at some fq, but the KF92 didn t have it so it cant make this noise
@@91DivineAngel It's not the fabric causing the noise distortion on your Kef Kube amplifier. It's mostly down to it not having enough amplifier wattage to keep up with certain frequency peaks 👍🏾
For a big 30 sqm room like yourself you will need minimum a 12inch woofer subwoofer with ported or passive radiator. Also it having at least 500w built in amplifier power 👌🏾
@@C--A no it was the fabric covering wich make this noise. I put my hand on it and the noise dispears. The covering was not tight enough. I replace it with a other kube 12b and the problem disapears. I bought know a second kube 12b. One was enough bass but with the second i feel it a bit more.
Be interested to know how it compares to JL E112
What's best for 50/50 music and movies? KEF KF92, 2x SVS SB-2000 Pros, or 2x REL T/7is?
all retail for about $2000.
I'm struggling with a similar issue here. Have you decided?
check out nemo propaganda's youtube channel. He reviews variants of all those brand subs.
Wow it has an apartment setting lol. I could definitely benefit from that
that's pointless. Because your neighbours will hear or not hear your tunes on the basis of your STC!
So, higher the STC the better situation you are in.
@@josealfredfernandes I just looked this up. I wouldn't say my place has a high STC however I also know my neighbors are very lenient. It is just hard to prevent those low frequencies from passing through. It is what it is at the end of the day we all pay rent but I still wanna be considerate.
@@denziiey My neighbours are just generally noisy... a license to rumble right there for me. And yeah I rumble!😄
Really punchy sound..excellent!
Rel 1508 or kef92. What do you prefer Shane?
Yeah, I'd like to know his preference between those two. What do you say, Shane?
@@frankvee Well what do you want to know? If you want low in hz, the KF92 is a better choice then the 1508. For music ,they both sound great but I think the 1508 is snappier in sound and have XLR output instead of RCA.
So 2 x 500 watt vs 1x800 watt.
How about paired with a different sub? I have a jl e110 . Would it match?
I'm sure you could if you knew how to use REW to match them up.
I got a SVS pb3000 to replace damaged e110. Sounds amazing
Sly foxxx the pb3000 sounds a lot better in a home theatre set up than the jl e110
Most sealed subs have great low end extension, but that doesn't mean they will come close to 115db in the MLP. That said these look extremely beefy for such a small form factor.
Not worth the price
@@waymonfrench2077 for you and me, sure. But it depends on your goals and requirement.
@@bs11100010 true that?
Must. have.. one...
Only one? 😳
Having small wires for high level inputs is not a problem, because due to the very high impedance of the inputs, only the signal travels on the wires and no power is taken from the amplifier.
SVS SB-3000 or SB-4000 would be by choice. Some so-called purist are stuck on names, I am stuck on names to a degree but value matters too.
Anyone know this would compare to a BK Monolith Plus? 80 litre (ish) enclosure with eminence lab12 and 500w class D amp?
The Kef KF92 has two 9 inch woofers and 1000w RMS amplifier but it is a sealed subwoofer. Whereas the BK Monolith Plus has a 12 inch driver with a bass port and 500w RMS amplifier.
Even with double the amplifier power the Kef KF92 won't give you the weighty rumble kick to the chest that the BK Monolith Plus does.
For music the Kef KF92 will be better but for movies the BK Monolith Plus will be better even though it can't go down quite as low frequency.
@@C--A so the kef can still go deeper? Is that due to the dsp?
Hi!! KEF KF92 small box like Svs 3000 micro !!! Is Kef much better? can you make it more percussive and higher sound pressure? Thank you!!
It's better get KEF.
@@therealshanelee Thank you very much !!! I saw you also made a video about sb 3000 Svs!! How did it sound to you? I only want 1 subwoofer for now!!! Did KF 92 or sb 3000 perform better?
This subwoofer or the Rel S3 Sho? How would they compare?
Kef goes lower
Since you also did a video on dual sb-3000's, how does the Kef KF92 perform against the SVS SB-3000? I know the kef is smaller and costs more, but the sb-3000 is still an amazing size. It basically comes down to do I just get high gloss sb3000's and save the difference? Or does the KF92 offer more than the sb-3000 and so just pay more and get the smallest subs out there for better performance.
These are better.
@@therealshanelee WOW that's crazy. They're so small. My mind works funny thinking that since it's a 9-inch subwoofer it has way less surface area even x2. This must truly be sorcery! 😜
@Professor5180 Two 9" is equilalent to one 12.7" driver if that size existed so it is very close to a 13".
SpareChange reaction haha 👍.
What about the very similar kef reference 8b?
You're joking right? Those things cost almost 6000 euro's! The 8b is heavier but not go as low as this one. Wouldn't pay 6000 for a sub when you can get it for 2000 and goes lower.
Thanks for great review.
Hi how does this compare with SVS SB4000 for movies?
Would love to see a review on Bowers & Wilkins DB1D. Not very popular due to the price, but there seem to be very positive feedback from users.
On one forum it said performance is between SB4000 & SB16 Ultra
These guys remind me of the Earthquake Minime series
Might get blasted by asking this, but here it goes. But whats your thoughts about a definitive technology supercube 8000 vs this kef or the other small sealed subs you've reviewed?
This one is much better.
@@therealshanelee price being what it is, between the kef, the sb3000, and rel 1508, which would you choose for 75% ht 25% music? Reciver is a Denon x3300 and speakers are definitive technology sm55 mains, sm45 rears, and cs8040 center.
HI, I keep asking because I still have to choose which Subwoofer I'm about to buy.
Two of KEF KF92 or Arendal 1723 2s.
What do you think? They are both dual driver subs sealed. And almost same price.
Let me know because you got them both!
The Arendals will play louder but the Kef digs a little lower. They're also a quarter of the size if space is a concern.
@@therealshanelee thanks buddy! Have a nice weekend!
Great job bro & what’s your favorite small subwoofer?
OK Sean , KEF KF92 or the REL HT 1508 ? If you Can choose only one for your HT ! Also you need to get Jan to send you his new Arendal 1723 2S to compare !
Waiting on the Arendals to be shipped.
Would like to know your opinion for example this budget subwoofer?
Yamaha NS-SW100 -Subwoofer
They're not even in the same playing field.
@@therealshanelee obviously not, but thought i would be nice to see your opinion on some budget subs after all these high end beasts
I've heard the sw100. It's boomy.
Wife Approval Factor is 10/10. Need this.
Can the speaker in connector take 14AWG wires? I intend to connect my Kube12b using that to my stereo. not yet received my piece but preparing the cables etc. before it arrived.
SpareChange KF92 or SVS 3000 which one is better for home Theater ?
Depends how much your willing to spend.
I will be willing to spend $4000 (2) kef , my living room is not that big similar to your home theater which one would you keep in your home theater KF92 or Sb 3000 ? Which one is a better performer?
Kef
1:43 If their high level input is like rel, no thick cables are needed for it only gets the signal and thickness is only required if high current is applied, which it is not, because it is powered, of course.
That beeing said, if you want home cinema rca is way better because you can use room measurements, which is always preferred!?!
is this sub better than a svs sb1000 for example?
Yep
Understatement of the year 😅
Please review new KEF subwoofer reference 8B. Zero distortion.
Enjoyed the review but for 2k no one should be “surprised” that a product delivers on its stated performance. It better be great for that $. A pair of these is four svs 2000 pro’s in a room. Id like to see those comparisons, whether a four sub room actually makes a difference.
It's the quality of bass you get. And the pros can't hang.
Quality vs quantity my man
Wow for 2k that sub can go down low to 11hz in a small box always thought you will need a big box to go down that low just like the deftech subs say that they can can go down to 14hz
What’s up Shane ok so the kef or the goldenear SuperSub x you reviewed for 600$ less and says 12hz . I know it’s not the same comparison you only had one to review . But your thoughts .
Kef wins for sure.
@@therealshanelee Will you ever review the Earthquake Supernova VII?
Shane, any word if this KF92 will come in White color?
I haven't heard of any plans.
@@therealshanelee Thanks, Shane.
so this subwoofer beat the arendal 2v?
Maybe a little bit lower but the Arendals play louder. Also the Arendals have better warranty than Kef.
@@Kwarkiemodo im guessing a lot more SPL too.. lol
Is this better than SVS PB-2000Pro ?
Yes.
Would be more comparable to sb3000-4000.
How is it compared to svs sb3000? Thinking about getting one of these 2
If you want low extension the Kef is the only way to go at this size.
@@therealshanelee damn, what about the pb3000…? I was in the same position. I know you briefly compared it to a Pb16. My media room has 3 walls and open in the back to a larger room. I was going to get 2 pb3000 or 1 Pb16 to start. A friend recommended the KEF'S what are your thoughts? Such a hard decision. I like the WAF of the KEF's
The KEF's have great extension and hit hard and great for music but I would wager the pb3000's would pressurize the room better.
New reference subs....say what!!
Not reference, new R series.
These should be price around $1200 , then yes most people would buy them but at this price very few would
I sent this to my friend who has a long history in the HT installation business. When I showed that it can get down to 11hz, he sent me this reply a bit later: “Max output is only 110dB so that's not going to happen at 11Hz. Maybe at 40Hz.” - What are your thoughts on this? Is it correct or is he missing something maybe? Thx. Love your videos. Very informative stuff.
The measurement is in the video.
SpareChange are you talking about the graph at the 8:25-8:27 mark?
Yep
@@therealshanelee you’re using 2 though and taking measurements but yet Kef claims for one?
Is this better than the svs pb 4000
Yes I own two Pb 4000s. Would love to here Shane’s opinion on this.
Can't say. I haven't tried them in my theater. I would imagine they'd be better for movies though. For music I doubt it.
What's in the box? LOL. That is some crazy low end extension.
Hard too believe till you hear them in person.
I'll stick to PB 13 Ultra's! Great video!
I could get two svs sb3000 ash black for the price of one of these and 800watts these 500w ill pass
Waymon French, correction, the Kef is 1000 watts.
@@waymonfrench2077 500w per driver, 1000w total. Don't look just at the specs, they don't tell the entire story.
Yeah i was wondering that 500w per driver ,introsting but I would still have placement issues, i still have issues with these bipolar towers speakers, they should have put the drivers upfront with these subs ,but I guess they have their reasons
Whats your setup frank
Not bad at all.
I wonder how many people watch these reviews and listen to it on your cell phone and say oh yeah that's the best thing ever.
Versus at least listening to it on your Thx-certified 2.1 for your computer.