If you're going to build a bigger rig using the phone, might as well just use a mirrorless camera and open up the flexibility. While it is possible to shoot a music video with the phone, people who shoot those high production videos are not going to be shooting with a phone in real life.
I am waiting for the delivery of a new iPhone 15 plus, but in the meantime I have used my iPad Pro with a USB C hub to run both a SSD and a Rode wireless pro at the same time with the Blackmagic Camera app. Works well.
The H.265 on the BMD app is staggeringly good for it's file size. It can be pushed really hard in post and holds up just fine. Shooting in 1080P also looks great for phone viewing & simple content, and also makes it small enough to make AirDrop usable. Can definitely see the benefit of an SSD if going beyond that though.
I had an idea for securing an SSD to the phone using a MagSafe sticker on the SSD, but this would only work on smooth surfaced SSD’s that are large enough. Your thoughts?
why the blackmagic cam wasting that much storage for 'proxy files',it should gave people option to turn it off,since not each one using that proxy files for post editing
@@initialfocus Not true just read what Apple says about it! If you know otherwise please explain to me how I tell my iPhone 16 Pro Max 1TB how to record movie on a Samsung T7 Shield 2 TB AFPS formatted device.
great video. I have a question, I bought an iPhone with 256 gigabytes, in 4k 60 frames per second it requires connecting the hard drive in the standard application, if the iPhone is 512 gigabytes or 1 terabyte, there is no need to connect the hard drive?
Incorrect. You can use a Mac journaled or APFS formatted drive since most people use an external from their Mac to use with their phone. exFat is more used in the windows workd
@@initialfocusThat was the fastest response I’ve ever had thanks, I just got an I phone 16 pro max , never had I phone before and want to shoot video for RUclips and don’t want big files. Thanks again.
Wondering about Bluetooth video transfer directly from port with a transmitter to receiver to drive. If anything is available on the market today then you don't have any cables
very Nice video. I’m going to shooting a documentary with my I phone 14 pro max with Blackmagic App Should I record in pro res ? It’s a problem for me because my I phone has only 128 GB and I can’t record in Pro res. I will work in post production on daVinci Resolve but if I will record in HEVC ( H.256 ) how many quality I will lost ? there are a lot difference ? I can do a good work if I shooting in HEVC ( H.256 ) ?
My biggest problem is variable framerate: if I choose 24fps, I want exactly that, not a variety of random non-integer framerates smooshed together playing havoc with timecodes and sync. If Apple nails this issue, then I’ll be interested.
Form factor wise thinking an interesting alternative would be something like the Samsung MUF FIT Plus 256GB flash drive. It's basically the size of a microSD card case with UHS-II SD-like speed (400MB/s) and you'd be free from needing a cable or card reader, just a small A-to USB-C adapter. Sandisk also has the Ultra Dual Drive flash with USB-C instead. Odd use case but I go to local NHL and NBA games and they're really strict about allowing any gear besides a phone (even tablets) inside so an SSD is iffy, but an iPhone 15 Pro Max with a flash drive on your keychain and suddenly boom you're shooting ProRes LOG with a 120mm lens lol. Just exciting opportunities in situations where cameras are prohibited to get mirrorless ILC quality footage and without needing to buy the most internal storage option.
Is it possible to use a SSD and a external mic together in the iPhone? A hub would work? Because the type of work that I do, I want the good audio in the same file (Nowadays I still record the audio separately, but I want to make my job easier)
Not sure if you’ve figured it out yet but you would need to format to Exfat which is readable by windows and Mac. Otherwise APFS for Mac should do too.
Hey! We’ve ramped up shipping and production once we finalized design and everything. If you want to DM me your order number @initialfocus on insta or X I’ll check with cliff to see when it’s set to ship!
Are you absolutely sure the h265 and prores comparison is correct in your video. I only ask because I cannot see any discernible difference in my personal tests trying to compare the h265 and prores hq even on a 75 inch tv. Others with more experience have said the same. Maybe consider a video comparing the codecs in detail for us, please. Could save alot of people a lot of storage and money for 10-20X smaller files with similar resolution and color at 10bit if it is actually the case that they are not different. Thank You for your informative videos.
Yup! The backpack shot was actually from my comparison video when ProRes first came to the iPhone. Phone video is tough to compare sometimes. Variable frame rates, variable bit rate etc etc. plenty of times clips are near impossible to notice the difference in quality. This is why so many stick to H.265. However for me, I’ve noticed there’s usually a difference in oversharpening. The new log mode helps with that in ProRes. Same with tone mapping is turned off when ProRes LOG is enabled, and the quality of detail like that backpack shot happen often is less optimal lighting conditions. So yes, there are plenty of times I’ve heard, seen and believe when it’s hard to tell the difference but if it’s a clip I care about capturing the highest detail I can, I’ll personally stick to ProRes. Hope that helps 👍🏼
@@initialfocus i agree and understand, thank you for your reply. I just wanted to mention that from what i have found is that not all ssd will work, for example my sandisk extreme pro does not work. It seems anything above usb3 gen 3 type just will not register. So the faster gen 4 drives just don’t work with 15 pro/max. Thanks again for your vids.
Although it uses up space -- the reason why I use the save in two places is because there's a backup copy in case I accidentally delete footage that I didn't intend to. Also there can be bizarre things that happen as a result of software updates, etc. E.G., I had shot some B roll footage on my iPhone 13 and when I tried to airdrop it from Protake to my Mac -- it wouldn't work. However, I was able to airdrop the backup copy from the gallery app. As well, I didn't have the time to fiddle around with things to see what was wrong because I was quite busy. Later when I did check into things I found the issue was a result of the recent iOS 17.1 update and Protake not being updated.
Nice video. I'm still on iPhone 14 Pro and will probably wait to see what the 16 line will do next year. My wish list would be a stronger version of cinematic mode in log. Heck, I'd take the current version of cinematic mode in LOG if Apple provided it. I know it's not perfect, but it's so close. I need to know they are still developing this, because if they were able to perfect this and give us log, and couple that with SSD recording; that would absolutely be a game changer IMO.
Same here. I was disappointed when finding out cinematic mode doesn't support log/prores or even 60fps footage, because of course I didn't look it up before buying it. However, video is another level anyway 😎
sadly this video heavily focuses on film making.. the average guy just wanted external storage to store all the old photos for memories. i don't think there is much cons now for external ssds
Why would someone want to save to twomlocations? A back up incase something goes wrong when you transfer files off the SSD. An errant delete or file corruption is rare but possible. For those paranoid about it happening... they get so,e peacef of mind. There... I've helped you out with fighting the algorithm by giving what should be the obvious answer. 👍
Благодарю Вас за очень интересную с технической и программной информацией. Мне понравилась программа в iPhone 15 Pro BlackMadgic Camera я раньше ней непользовался но, она бывает зависает, лечение переустановил. Снимал в максимальном качестве результат не плохой, не понравился в BlackMagic Camera зум, рывки но эту проблему можно решить заранее настроить я имею ввиду зум и продолжить запись.
At this point I am convinced that people are stupid. They want to be able to record/save footage to external drives but they are annoyed by the fact that they have to connect their phone to a drive with a cable. Like WTF do you want? Make up your mind! Do you want Apple to magically move gigabytes of files to your drive wirelessly at light speed?
You ruined it all with those video clips in that aberration of vertical video format...Otherwise your video is useful to watch. But that´s only my opinion as a former Broadcast TV station cameraman.
I used to shoot Tv commercials, and it doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Perhaps you’re behind the times. The vertical format is now one of the most popular for Ticktock. It’s also popular in RUclips. This isn’t broadcast ?tv, it a RUclips video with clips. Open yourself up a little. What was isn’t necessarily what is.
Useful video, on a sideline, It's occupied Palestine not Israel. The high buildings they built and destruction of olive trees and Palestinian cemeteries and historical sites does not change the fact that it's Palestinian land.
You got fed an ad every minute? Just checking because I’ve been trying out an ad placement system and you’re the first comment to say you got fed a bunch in one video. Sorry that happened to you!
I've gone away from my GH5 & Sony ZV1 for the ease, simplicity, and size of a Pocket 3, I've never understood understood why someone would pick an iPhone (external HD ??? eStabilization) over a Pocket 3 (1" sensor, 10-bit color, built-in Gimbal, mStabilization) for video. One thing iPhone has going for it is ProRes (which is why you need the external HD, P3 only uses HEVC, I use a 500GB microSD and it works fine.. SO! What's your opinion? How do you weigh the better sensor vs. the better CODEC? Why buy a big iPhone cage & external HD & big ND kits vs. this: ruclips.net/video/DspOnPXzs_U/видео.htmlsi=6u93vfp3X2gnRmOW ?? My whole rig is still less $$ than a new iPhone. Maybe it's amateur... but I'm an amateur 🤣
Android users will have the "real-time transfer of video data to SSD" feature for many years? Probably not. 95% of all Android smartphones only deliver USB 2.0 speed via USB-C. Of the rest, just 2 vendors support USB 3.2 2x1 and neither of them support ProRes Raw codec or other Raw codec. 🙄
What would you use a b-cam for an iphone 15 pro? im using it more and more when i travel because i dont have space for my DSLR, and now i want a second iphone for multi cam shooting on iphones.
This video was worth my RUclips Reviewers vote as well as subscribing. Looking forward to your new videos after I watch a few you already posted.
You made my day with this comment. Thank you 🙌🏼🤍
If you're going to build a bigger rig using the phone, might as well just use a mirrorless camera and open up the flexibility. While it is possible to shoot a music video with the phone, people who shoot those high production videos are not going to be shooting with a phone in real life.
You would be surprised
I am waiting for the delivery of a new iPhone 15 plus, but in the meantime I have used my iPad Pro with a USB C hub to run both a SSD and a Rode wireless pro at the same time with the Blackmagic Camera app. Works well.
The H.265 on the BMD app is staggeringly good for it's file size. It can be pushed really hard in post and holds up just fine. Shooting in 1080P also looks great for phone viewing & simple content, and also makes it small enough to make AirDrop usable. Can definitely see the benefit of an SSD if going beyond that though.
This is not about H.265 videos, but about ProRes Raw files.
I had an idea for securing an SSD to the phone using a MagSafe sticker on the SSD, but this would only work on smooth surfaced SSD’s that are large enough. Your thoughts?
This is one of the most popular ideas for a setup. I haven’t personally tried it but in theory it should work great I imagine.
You could Velcro a bigger piece of material to the SSD and then attach the MagSafe sticker to the other side.
why the blackmagic cam wasting that much storage for 'proxy files',it should gave people option to turn it off,since not each one using that proxy files for post editing
This is shot on an iPhone, right?
pls do a review of iPhone 15 promax with Beatgrip lenses.
Any suggestion on where to mount SSD drive when iPhone15proMax is sitting a DJI Osmo Mobile 6?
SAME
@@becomingtylerjames1446 Same as what?
Apple's own format system is AFPS so why is ProRes only possible on a exFat formatted external device?
It’s not….you can use almost any form of formatted external with ProRes.
@@initialfocus Not true just read what Apple says about it! If you know otherwise please explain to me how I tell my iPhone 16 Pro Max 1TB how to record movie on a Samsung T7 Shield 2 TB AFPS formatted device.
I wish he told us what adapter they are and what type SSD he is using
How battery works with SSD linked ?
Any favorite ND for iPhone ?
You can buy a micro usb adaptor with 1 terrabite of storage plus with small cable and that is more better
Agreed, but you know what would be better than that?
Phone manufacturers start bringing back microSD support in their flagships.
great video. I have a question, I bought an iPhone with 256 gigabytes, in 4k 60 frames per second it requires connecting the hard drive in the standard application, if the iPhone is 512 gigabytes or 1 terabyte, there is no need to connect the hard drive?
ProRes is only possible on a exFat formatted external device I don't get do you?
Incorrect. You can use a Mac journaled or APFS formatted drive since most people use an external from their Mac to use with their phone. exFat is more used in the windows workd
what if the phone is only for vlogging then what should we do any help??? storage wise just use the sd drvie or no???
Why not an NVME drive?
Can you use an SSD to record 4K 24 FPC and not use Pro Res.
Not with the stock camera app but you can with a third party app like BM camera app
@@initialfocusThat was the fastest response I’ve ever had thanks, I just got an I phone 16 pro max , never had I phone before and want to shoot video for RUclips and don’t want big files. Thanks again.
Gotchu! Congrats on the new phone and have fun with it! 💪🏼
Backup photo and video on the SSD drive... main reason for SSD on iPhone 15 for me
If I use an SSD, where do I plug in my mic?
Bluetooth
Save twice = sometimes saving to usb C glitches and we have loss footage, usually on sandisk devices
Wondering about Bluetooth video transfer directly from port with a transmitter to receiver to drive. If anything is available on the market today then you don't have any cables
very Nice video. I’m going to shooting a documentary with my I phone 14 pro max with Blackmagic App
Should I record in pro res ? It’s a problem for me because my I phone has only 128 GB and I can’t record in Pro res.
I will work in post production on daVinci Resolve but if I will record in HEVC ( H.256 ) how many quality I will lost ? there are a lot difference ? I can do a good work if I shooting in HEVC ( H.256 ) ?
can 128gb iPhone 15 pro do video format log?
My biggest problem is variable framerate: if I choose 24fps, I want exactly that, not a variety of random non-integer framerates smooshed together playing havoc with timecodes and sync. If Apple nails this issue, then I’ll be interested.
blackmagic camera app you can lock your frame rate, shutter speed, etc
I’m new to this but are you referring to the Auto FPS setting that changes the frame rate based on light level and motion? As that can be turned off.
Form factor wise thinking an interesting alternative would be something like the Samsung MUF FIT Plus 256GB flash drive. It's basically the size of a microSD card case with UHS-II SD-like speed (400MB/s) and you'd be free from needing a cable or card reader, just a small A-to USB-C adapter. Sandisk also has the Ultra Dual Drive flash with USB-C instead. Odd use case but I go to local NHL and NBA games and they're really strict about allowing any gear besides a phone (even tablets) inside so an SSD is iffy, but an iPhone 15 Pro Max with a flash drive on your keychain and suddenly boom you're shooting ProRes LOG with a 120mm lens lol. Just exciting opportunities in situations where cameras are prohibited to get mirrorless ILC quality footage and without needing to buy the most internal storage option.
What file system should the storage SSD disk be formatted for? exFat?
Please link for SSD
hey brow, can I record directly to the external SSD with a Samsung S22 Ultra with the motion cam app?
Is it possible to use a SSD and a external mic together in the iPhone? A hub would work? Because the type of work that I do, I want the good audio in the same file (Nowadays I still record the audio separately, but I want to make my job easier)
Yup! Check out my most recent crazy iPhone rig setup video hah
@@initialfocus thank you! I arrived at your channel today, I'm your new subscriber! Awesome content!
What’s the U shape USB adapter that you use for your iPhone to ssd you use ?
I was surprised that Apple wouldn't offer a first-party SSD or one by Belkin or other close partners that jacks in perfectly.
So does it make phone calls i cant wait until they remove phone calls..
What?
in terms of iphone storage itself which do you recommend knowing you can use ssd?
which size did you get?
I just bought a Samsung rugged drive and it will not read in the Files app on my iPad. Does it have to be formatted to something specific?
Not sure if you’ve figured it out yet but you would need to format to Exfat which is readable by windows and Mac. Otherwise APFS for Mac should do too.
Is anyone know if the record directly with iPhone 13 Pro works?
I ordered my ssd adaptor a couple of weeks ago- how’s that 3d printing coming along?
Hey! We’ve ramped up shipping and production once we finalized design and everything. If you want to DM me your order number @initialfocus on insta or X I’ll check with cliff to see when it’s set to ship!
@@initialfocus i ordered it first day you offeredbut I don’t have my receipt. My Email is tnye@nyehaus.com
Does this work on the iphone 13 pro?
No sadly lightning is usb 2.0 speeds so it’s not fast enough to write files to a drive for external ProRes.
Where does it record if you connect 2 or more SSDs ?
Are you absolutely sure the h265 and prores comparison is correct in your video. I only ask because I cannot see any discernible difference in my personal tests trying to compare the h265 and prores hq even on a 75 inch tv. Others with more experience have said the same. Maybe consider a video comparing the codecs in detail for us, please. Could save alot of people a lot of storage and money for 10-20X smaller files with similar resolution and color at 10bit if it is actually the case that they are not different. Thank You for your informative videos.
Yup! The backpack shot was actually from my comparison video when ProRes first came to the iPhone. Phone video is tough to compare sometimes. Variable frame rates, variable bit rate etc etc. plenty of times clips are near impossible to notice the difference in quality. This is why so many stick to H.265. However for me, I’ve noticed there’s usually a difference in oversharpening. The new log mode helps with that in ProRes. Same with tone mapping is turned off when ProRes LOG is enabled, and the quality of detail like that backpack shot happen often is less optimal lighting conditions.
So yes, there are plenty of times I’ve heard, seen and believe when it’s hard to tell the difference but if it’s a clip I care about capturing the highest detail I can, I’ll personally stick to ProRes. Hope that helps 👍🏼
@@initialfocus i agree and understand, thank you for your reply.
I just wanted to mention that from what i have found is that not all ssd will work, for example my sandisk extreme pro does not work. It seems anything above usb3 gen 3 type just will not register. So the faster gen 4 drives just don’t work with 15 pro/max. Thanks again for your vids.
what about using a gimbal
mines isn’t registering
Make sure it’s formatted properly!
Problem is That the battery Runs out fast when using external SSD 4K 60… I need to use a MagSafe powerbank. And put the ssd in my pocket
Also iPhone 15 pro get very hot while recording 4k
Awesome Video Thanks!
Thank you! 🙌🏼
Although it uses up space -- the reason why I use the save in two places is because there's a backup copy in case I accidentally delete footage that I didn't intend to. Also there can be bizarre things that happen as a result of software updates, etc. E.G., I had shot some B roll footage on my iPhone 13 and when I tried to airdrop it from Protake to my Mac -- it wouldn't work. However, I was able to airdrop the backup copy from the gallery app. As well, I didn't have the time to fiddle around with things to see what was wrong because I was quite busy. Later when I did check into things I found the issue was a result of the recent iOS 17.1 update and Protake not being updated.
Can you record HDR 10bit could to sd?
Nice video. I'm still on iPhone 14 Pro and will probably wait to see what the 16 line will do next year. My wish list would be a stronger version of cinematic mode in log. Heck, I'd take the current version of cinematic mode in LOG if Apple provided it. I know it's not perfect, but it's so close. I need to know they are still developing this, because if they were able to perfect this and give us log, and couple that with SSD recording; that would absolutely be a game changer IMO.
Same here. I was disappointed when finding out cinematic mode doesn't support log/prores or even 60fps footage, because of course I didn't look it up before buying it. However, video is another level anyway 😎
sadly this video heavily focuses on film making.. the average guy just wanted external storage to store all the old photos for memories. i don't think there is much cons now for external ssds
Spot on
All we need now is a built-in SD slot
Consider the iRe5
Why would someone want to save to twomlocations?
A back up incase something goes wrong when you transfer files off the SSD. An errant delete or file corruption is rare but possible. For those paranoid about it happening... they get so,e peacef of mind.
There... I've helped you out with fighting the algorithm by giving what should be the obvious answer. 👍
Third-party companies are going to make something. The question is how long the way.
WHY do you have captions in every language but english?? auto-craptions do not count...
I just use an off brand MagSafe wallet and short usb c 3.0, simple.
Хороший контент продолжай в том же духе
Благодарю Вас за очень интересную с технической и программной информацией. Мне понравилась программа в iPhone 15 Pro BlackMadgic Camera я раньше ней непользовался но, она бывает зависает, лечение переустановил. Снимал в максимальном качестве результат не плохой, не понравился в BlackMagic Camera зум, рывки но эту проблему можно решить заранее настроить я имею ввиду зум и продолжить запись.
Wait android can recorded directly to an SSD? Strange that I never saw that.😮😮😮
What is the name of the case for ssd in the video?
If it doesn't fit in my pocket, I'm not buying it.
Just bring back MicroSD support in flagship phones - We have *2TB MicroSD* available now.
Is it going to take the EU to fight for consumers again?!?!?
Made my own USB hub case that has HDMI out, Audio, USB-C Charging, and holds an SSD all at once: ruclips.net/video/B0M7ohr1d58/видео.html
At this point I am convinced that people are stupid. They want to be able to record/save footage to external drives but they are annoyed by the fact that they have to connect their phone to a drive with a cable. Like WTF do you want? Make up your mind! Do you want Apple to magically move gigabytes of files to your drive wirelessly at light speed?
how did I end up watching this boring video? you are deviating from answering the question crisply and giving a sloppy answer.
You ruined it all with those video clips in that aberration of vertical video format...Otherwise your video is useful to watch. But that´s only my opinion as a former Broadcast TV station cameraman.
I used to shoot Tv commercials, and it doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Perhaps you’re behind the times. The vertical format is now one of the most popular for Ticktock. It’s also popular in RUclips. This isn’t broadcast ?tv, it a RUclips video with clips. Open yourself up a little. What was isn’t necessarily what is.
Maybe you should stick to dish TV instead of internet
Useful video, on a sideline, It's occupied Palestine not Israel. The high buildings they built and destruction of olive trees and Palestinian cemeteries and historical sites does not change the fact that it's Palestinian land.
Advertising every minute... Dude, keep it for yourself. I didn’t bother checking it out and removed it from the recommendations.
You got fed an ad every minute? Just checking because I’ve been trying out an ad placement system and you’re the first comment to say you got fed a bunch in one video. Sorry that happened to you!
@@initialfocusI saw nothing of the sort
That's odd. Only one pre video ad for me if I watch this on my non-premium account. What country, device, etc., are you watching from?
aint paying 50$ for bull crap.
I've gone away from my GH5 & Sony ZV1 for the ease, simplicity, and size of a Pocket 3, I've never understood understood why someone would pick an iPhone (external HD ??? eStabilization) over a Pocket 3 (1" sensor, 10-bit color, built-in Gimbal, mStabilization) for video. One thing iPhone has going for it is ProRes (which is why you need the external HD, P3 only uses HEVC, I use a 500GB microSD and it works fine..
SO! What's your opinion? How do you weigh the better sensor vs. the better CODEC? Why buy a big iPhone cage & external HD & big ND kits vs. this: ruclips.net/video/DspOnPXzs_U/видео.htmlsi=6u93vfp3X2gnRmOW ?? My whole rig is still less $$ than a new iPhone. Maybe it's amateur... but I'm an amateur 🤣
Android users will have the "real-time transfer of video data to SSD" feature for many years? Probably not. 95% of all Android smartphones only deliver USB 2.0 speed via USB-C. Of the rest, just 2 vendors support USB 3.2 2x1 and neither of them support ProRes Raw codec or other Raw codec. 🙄
What would you use a b-cam for an iphone 15 pro? im using it more and more when i travel because i dont have space for my DSLR, and now i want a second iphone for multi cam shooting on iphones.