This. Between Smallrig, Beastgrip, and Kondor Blue, there's plenty of focus on lens/filters for the camera, a few slots to hold a camera and a light, but the external battery and SSD feels like an afterthought.
Potential solution is USB-C adapter with four ports, then getting a USB-C to AUX splitter (like the Rode AI-Micro) then an USB-C to HDMI for monitoring. The third would be for a SSD. Some adapters have passthrough charging, so I would check for one with this in the fourth port. You'd end up with a chord ridden mess, but then again what rig isn't lol. I think Michael is going for more run and gun rig, but I do wish more RUclipsrs would focus on more Cinema standard rigs like with the BTS of the Apple event. So many RUclipsrs did videos on what that rig COULD'VE been yet no one I can find has made a video on actually making one of these rigs. I love the rig Michael made, but I agree that this adapter is not the best. Definitely not trusting 4k 60 ProRes LOG to a SD card, but thats just me 🤷
@@reid_c_ spot on. Having the 4-way splitter definitely gives you a 1.) external power, 2.) ssd recording, and two free usb-c slots. I just picked up a Brandon Li mobile video kit for my 15 pro max and I may look at a cheese plate and rails to see if there’s a way to keep the SSD recoding/external power off. For some people, a mic and light is the only thing they need when capturing video. If I choose HEVC/h265, I can record for hours, but I’m not sure what image quality/color grading latitude I’m sacrificing for a smaller file size.
Sorry to hijack this conversation - anyone knows if recording directly to SSD/External storage via Blackmagic is only limited to ProRes or could we just shoot lower settings like 4K 30fps or Cinematic mode as well? 😊
@@bradleylai4547Recording onto an external storage system using the iPhones native camera app is restricted to ProRes at the moment, which is honestly pretty dumb imo To record in H.264 (file format the native app uses), you’d need to use a third party recording software such as Blackmagic Cam and configure the recording format and file destination in the settings Unfortunately this means no Cinematic mode, but if you’re looking for that shallow depth of field, consider doing it naturally by using your 85mm lens or purchasing a third party lens to attach to your camera Also know that you DONT need bokeh to tell a good story, it’s just a tool to enhance it. If it’s more worth it to have half decent artificial DOF, go for it :) but if you’d rather have full manual control over your camera settings with a third party app, it won’t hurt your content/film to not have DOP if your lighting, camera work, and script are solid :)
It's becoming a real question for me if adding additional external storage using SD cards or Type B CF cards is economical vs just getting larger RAM memory on the iPhone when purchased. The only "fly in the ointment" so to speak is that faster external storage is required for SOME resolutions and frame rate combos on the Blackmagic Cam IOS app. My iPhone 15 pro has about 412GB currently free which can store about 85 minutes worth of Apple ProRes 4K 422 HQ at 24fps (not log) - doable but not ideal
I am now thinking about a "C356 Type-C MicroSD Card Reader with USB 3.0 Super Speed Technology, Supports MicroSDXC, MicroSDHC, and MicroSD for Window, Mac OS X and Andriod (Midnight Grey) " combined with "SanDisk 1TB Extreme microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter - Up to 190MB/s, C10, U3, V30, 4K, 5K, A2, Micro SD Card- SDSQXAV-1T00-GN6MA, Gold/Red" which together is about $115 - any comments?
nice Setup, but the specs of the Hub may be too slow for the direct recording to external drive. 220 MB/s is required by apple, the Iphone supports up to 10 Gbit/s speeds but the Hub only support 5 Gbit/s. Furthermore the SD Slot only provide 104 MB/s. Thats less than the half of the required Speed no matter what class of SD Card will get put in.
Using memory cards with Apple Log is really a bad solution. Black Magic will keep warning you about frames dropping and will stop recording. Unless using a V90 memory cards which are costly than SSDs ! I tried a lot within a real production, once you decide to go with multiple ports, you have to go with a complete solution: Hub + SSD + Mic + Power Bank to make sure that all those devices have the required power to work reliably.
@@CreatorJimmyYe Iphone + cage + lenses and such will get you in the same price bracket of the FX3 .. and at that point you will get absolutely superior image quality no mater what.
I don't understand why we buy so many things to attach to our phones that are so big and no more compact than a professional camera. I mean, if I was that passionate about photography and videography, I would invest in the camera, not the accessories.
Everyone’s shooting style and workflow is different. I used to be on your side of thinking. But especially with the latest Apple LOG on iPhone 15 pro it’s a truly capable camera. One perspective you may want to consider is what other camera can you shoot, edit and post all on one device. For efficiencies sake it is far superior than dedicated cameras 🤷🏻♂️
As someone who has done photo and video work with a professional camera - I still use my phone for a number of reasons: -the phone is going to be on me anyway, so really Im just packing any accessories I need. my phone + cage + handle is still lighter/more flexible than my main camera. -if I am recording in a situation where I need to be discreet, there are times people are more accepting of phone recording than a big mirrorless camera, even if I have a small cage attached to the phone. Additionally some venues wont even let me bring the camera in at all. -some companies actually desire the "phone" look for things like social media. Different tools for different things. Additionally, experimentation is fun. Sometimes it's nice just to see how far you can take something.
I’m a director and prefer to work with a capable DP. But labor plus gear is expensive. So in between bigger shoots I like to make small projects, but don’t want to invest time and money into a $2500+ camera that I still have to learn to use when I can use the thing I already have in my pocket and spend a few hundred bucks on accessories.
HI Michael - great video! Can you expand a bit if the SD card write speed is sufficient for 4k60 prores HQ? And what rating of SD card would you recommed? Does the hub battleneck the system in any way? Thank you!
Question, if you charge through the anker dock, do you have overheating problems while recording? I have a similar set up, but I designed it so I could pop on a magasfe inductive charger (and swap them out quickly and easily because its just a magnet) but my 15 Pro Max overheats really quickly when recording and charging at once which quickly became a fatal flaw of the design. Wondering if its just a problem with a wireless charger?
Very interesting! Thank you! I am wondering, if you can connect an external mic (via 3.5mm cable) to the headphone/mic jack of the adapter, to record video and sound with the Blackmagic camera app?! 😇
Hi Michael, do you have any comparisons or share some insights which one to get Beastgrip Pro or Beastcage, discussing topics routes for expansion, SSD, powebanks, etc.?
probably not with the right angle adapter, you'd have to have some sort of cable and attach the hub to the power bank instead. That said, iPhones trying to record and do inductive charging at the same time overheat quite quickly so I don't think it would be desirable.
Man oh man, such a SUPERB demo. I learned SO much. I'm also now a new sub. Tell me: what do you think is the BEST recording device. I mean, I like the MINIMALISM of your setup, but if you go Angelbird CFexpress Type B card at $300 (plus another 100 for the reader), you're getting SO much more data and SO much faster. ANyway, super demo!
Great vid. I was pondering how to mount a SD card reader and boom there you are. Not only possibly lower heat and power consumption, but also clean HDMI out!
Cool video, but I'll just keep using my DJI Pocket 3 since you get everything in one small package, including internal connection for 2 DJI Mic 2's without the transmitter. I will use my iPhone 15 Pro Max for handheld shooting with little to no accessories since it's a pain in the ass to mount anything without a cage and a bunch of shit dangling and sticking out from it. I guess if you already have the phone and don't wanna spend the cash on the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 creator combo and an additional DJI Mic 2, then you can rig out the phone instead on the cheap.
Have watched a lot of these videos from you and have decided to pull the trigger on an iPhone 15 pro and beast grip cage setup. I bought a 62mm K&F variable nd filter along with an adapter for 58-62 so I can use it with the beast grip 58mm adapter. But am contemplating buying one of the kits with lenses but can’t decide on a lens. I plan to do a lot of adventure, diy, and outdoors videography and was wondering if I should just get the bare cage with the nd filter and see if I need anything or if there is a clear option for which I should start with. All of them sound great but I just can’t make a decision and hate to kick myself later when I buy em separate
I bought the same setup you featured here. iPhone 15 Pro, Anker Dock (same one pictured, darker silver), V90 UHS-II SD cards and the same USB-C breakout. I did plenty of testing before my first shoot with it, but sadly had a ton of dropped frames and lockups while shooting today. I was able to get through most of the day by constantly offloading files + starting new rolls which I realized the iPhone is not quite ready for. Was a really manual and tedious process - luckily I have a lot of experience as a DIT / with RED so was able to make it work with my usual workflow. iPhone was capturing in 4K 24/48 in ProRes 422. Not sure what happened. :(
Damn. I’m sorry to hear that! Yeah seems SD card tech is being pushed by these new codecs on the phone. I’m actually waiting for a new CF Express type B card to come in and reader for the phone. With like 1,700MBs speeds it should easily handle the footage.
Any further updates or details on this dropped frame issue? I assume you were using the SanDisk UHS-II / V90 / U3 / class 10 SD cards rated at 300MBP/S? Do you feel like the issue was with the SD card, the Anker USB Hub or something else?
2:45 I have been looking at the Anker hub it is only rated at 5gbps, so you will get drop outs , have you tested a 40gbps /thunder 4 hub? How did it go
2:45 I have been looking at the Anker hub it is only rated at 5gbps, so you will get drop outs , have you tested a 40gbps /thunder 4 hub? How did it go
May I suggest a thin magnets which you may get it online for the ANKER hub? have 1 each side and when you slide in, it may feel the snap feeling in place. Not sure it may work, but I think it will.
Man, I want to buy the iPhone filmmaking guide, but I'm stuck in a hell loop of resetting my password/error when resetting password. Super disappointing.
probably not with the right angle adapter, you'd have to have some sort of cable and attach the hub to the power bank instead. That said, iPhones trying to record and do inductive charging at the same time overheat quite quickly so I don't think it would be desirable.
I had been thinking about a MicroSD card solution with 1TB worth of storage but it turned out that it was too slow - turns out 220 Mb/s write Speeds are required for ProRes LOG so that solution was out, the other issue was just the very high cost of quality SD storage. So now I'm looking at a USB4 CFexpress 4.0 Type B Card Reader with ProGrade Digital 1TB CFexpress Type B Memory Card (Gold) that could hold 3 hours and 25 minutes of of 4K video in Rec709. It features super super fast read and write speeds too BUT the issue remains cost - about $500 in total. Measuring 3.1 x 3.1 x 0.9 inches I think it might just very well fit your rig design. But that's still a heck of a price tag to accept. Are you up to try it out?
Look at my latest video haha different brand but that exact setup. And just like you said, super expensive but suuuuper works! ProRes HQ 4K 60fps for like 5 hours
This is super cool !! Are there any issues recording through the Anker hub to an SD card with some of the higher Apple codecs? ProRes 422 or 422HQ? Any dropped frames when also using a wireless mic setup plugged into the Anker usb-c. I’m worried about the 10Gbps iPhone usb-c getting slowed by the 5Gbps Anker hub. Thanks!
It works okay in LT with a very fast SD card. But for long record sessions or anyone who wants HQ I’m uploading a video today actually that addresses it!
Dare I say that in the iPhone 16 they need to add an internal recessed microSD card slot to eliminate all these janky "minimalist" rigs for storage. All the other parts are well constructed, but there is no escaping the Jerry-rigged USB storage solution. None of them are better than if Apple simply put in a tiny card slot.
@@initialfocus That mostly worked for Red when there was less competition. I think Apple's more likely to make iPhones with larger internal memory options before they would go to a proprietary media. It's hard to say, but I think if they went with a proprietary media they would find it an unprofitable venture as long as USB-C remains an option, and I doubt they will step backwards on that front.
Do you feel the need for a gimbal like the Dji Osmo 6, or is the footage stable enough prior to editing? I am new to filming and would like to have a set up similar to this, but I have the thought that I would require a gimbal to aide the stablisation. Is this something I can improve during the editing process with FCP?
Depends on the shooting scenario I think. Stabilization is definitely incredible on the iPhone and can be enhanced further in 3rd party apps like Blackmagic camera app but sometimes a gimbal still will help to get super smooth footage.
@@initialfocus for the phone to carry a lense would that impact the gimbal from your experience? I imagine if using a lense it limits the options for a gimbal and a SSD being attached?
This port isn't fast enough to record ProRes to SD card. The speed of the port is only 104 mb/s so you'll end up dropping a lot of frames. The speed of the SD card doesn't matter if the port can't handle to speed to begin with. You'll need to use the USB-C port which says it has a speed of 5 gb/s.
Not in the same way that the iPhone 15 pro with USB C connector can. But you can use the lightning to SD card reader to move photos/videos from the photos app to the card
Just to clarify about 7:17 - why would you want to connect the Rode Wireless PRO receiver via a USB C cable to the Anker USB hub? Is the audio in that situation still being stored locally on the Rode Wireless PRO? Is audio then also being recorded to the SD card in the Anker hub?
In the Rode Central app you can configure your Wireless PRO to record internally while outputting an audio signal. As for recording onto the SD card, as long as your footage is recording onto the SD card, your audio will record onto that clip. Be sure to check your settings in your recording app of choice (FilmicPro, BMCam, etc.) that your audio source is your Wireless PRO
@_ Thank you very much for the detailed reply! So am I to assume that the reason he had a USB C cable going from the Rode Wireless Pro receiver to the Anker Hub was so that the Rode audio would be both stored on the Rode itself AND also on the SD card?
Yup! Having the audio stored on the Rode AND on the clip gives a good backup, so if something happened with the audio file on the Rode, it’s still recorded onto the clip (and vice versa). The more backups the better :)
This is a big problem I have as well that I can't figure out how to solve. Like you can easily run a power to the hub, or use inductive charging but with my 15 Pro Max it makes so much heat while charging and recording at the same time that I get an error within 10min or so telling me the phone is overheating and recording stops until it cools down. My strat has been to charge in between clips, but that can be really disruptive.
I feel your pain man, I had a full day shoot planned with the iPhone 15 Pro and it was my first proper shoot with it (Music Video). Basically what I soon realised is that I was going to run out of charge very fast due to the SSD getting power from the phone. So I had to think quick and went full Mcgiver, strapped a 40gbps adapter that had the capabilities to draw charge and also plug in the SSD, I ran a long USB-A to USB-C from a slim V-lock that was in my pocket which powered it all day no overheating, it wasnt perfect but it got the job done lol. I used the same method on another shoot and I am yet to figure out a better option :| @@ryancooper3629
That’s really nice. I still don’t understand how major brands haven’t created a hub where we can put the phone and attach everything that we need.
This. Between Smallrig, Beastgrip, and Kondor Blue, there's plenty of focus on lens/filters for the camera, a few slots to hold a camera and a light, but the external battery and SSD feels like an afterthought.
Potential solution is USB-C adapter with four ports, then getting a USB-C to AUX splitter (like the Rode AI-Micro) then an USB-C to HDMI for monitoring. The third would be for a SSD. Some adapters have passthrough charging, so I would check for one with this in the fourth port. You'd end up with a chord ridden mess, but then again what rig isn't lol.
I think Michael is going for more run and gun rig, but I do wish more RUclipsrs would focus on more Cinema standard rigs like with the BTS of the Apple event. So many RUclipsrs did videos on what that rig COULD'VE been yet no one I can find has made a video on actually making one of these rigs.
I love the rig Michael made, but I agree that this adapter is not the best. Definitely not trusting 4k 60 ProRes LOG to a SD card, but thats just me 🤷
@@reid_c_ spot on. Having the 4-way splitter definitely gives you a 1.) external power, 2.) ssd recording, and two free usb-c slots.
I just picked up a Brandon Li mobile video kit for my 15 pro max and I may look at a cheese plate and rails to see if there’s a way to keep the SSD recoding/external power off.
For some people, a mic and light is the only thing they need when capturing video. If I choose HEVC/h265, I can record for hours, but I’m not sure what image quality/color grading latitude I’m sacrificing for a smaller file size.
Sorry to hijack this conversation - anyone knows if recording directly to SSD/External storage via Blackmagic is only limited to ProRes or could we just shoot lower settings like 4K 30fps or Cinematic mode as well? 😊
@@bradleylai4547Recording onto an external storage system using the iPhones native camera app is restricted to ProRes at the moment, which is honestly pretty dumb imo
To record in H.264 (file format the native app uses), you’d need to use a third party recording software such as Blackmagic Cam and configure the recording format and file destination in the settings
Unfortunately this means no Cinematic mode, but if you’re looking for that shallow depth of field, consider doing it naturally by using your 85mm lens or purchasing a third party lens to attach to your camera
Also know that you DONT need bokeh to tell a good story, it’s just a tool to enhance it. If it’s more worth it to have half decent artificial DOF, go for it :) but if you’d rather have full manual control over your camera settings with a third party app, it won’t hurt your content/film to not have DOP if your lighting, camera work, and script are solid :)
I cant find that nato L rail to save my life.. anyone have a link for it?
Just need to be able to fit the phone in with a case on it.
Use the Beastgrip pro then. It’s universal and can fit any phone. As long as the case doesn’t crazy cover the camera bumps.
It's becoming a real question for me if adding additional external storage using SD cards or Type B CF cards is economical vs just getting larger RAM memory on the iPhone when purchased. The only "fly in the ointment" so to speak is that faster external storage is required for SOME resolutions and frame rate combos on the Blackmagic Cam IOS app. My iPhone 15 pro has about 412GB currently free which can store about 85 minutes worth of Apple ProRes 4K 422 HQ at 24fps (not log) - doable but not ideal
I am now thinking about a "C356 Type-C MicroSD Card Reader with USB 3.0 Super Speed Technology, Supports MicroSDXC, MicroSDHC, and MicroSD for Window, Mac OS X and Andriod (Midnight Grey) " combined with "SanDisk 1TB Extreme microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter - Up to 190MB/s, C10, U3, V30, 4K, 5K, A2, Micro SD Card- SDSQXAV-1T00-GN6MA, Gold/Red" which together is about $115 - any comments?
Now this is probably the best setup I’ve seen out of the last 50 videos I’ve watched. Still looking but I think I’ve found it.
nice Setup, but the specs of the Hub may be too slow for the direct recording to external drive.
220 MB/s is required by apple, the Iphone supports up to 10 Gbit/s speeds but the Hub only support 5 Gbit/s. Furthermore the SD Slot only provide 104 MB/s. Thats less than the half of the required Speed no matter what class of SD Card will get put in.
@@RicoBandito exactly my thoughts when watching this, thanks for verifying with research. Also, this setup does not allow you to get a magsafe charger
Using memory cards with Apple Log is really a bad solution. Black Magic will keep warning you about frames dropping and will stop recording. Unless using a V90 memory cards which are costly than SSDs !
I tried a lot within a real production, once you decide to go with multiple ports, you have to go with a complete solution: Hub + SSD + Mic + Power Bank to make sure that all those devices have the required power to work reliably.
So what would you recommend? What kind of set up?
@@JosephAliDeeb simply using a small SSD is the better solution
All these rigs make the phone huge... might as well use my FX3
Well if you have a FX3 you should use your FX3 😂
Not even in the same price bracket lol
You have an F3, we have an iPhone 😅
Do you see our predicament?
@@CreatorJimmyYe Iphone + cage + lenses and such will get you in the same price bracket of the FX3 .. and at that point you will get absolutely superior image quality no mater what.
wont this drop frames? even filming in 24 frames proress?
I don't understand why we buy so many things to attach to our phones that are so big and no more compact than a professional camera. I mean, if I was that passionate about photography and videography, I would invest in the camera, not the accessories.
Everyone’s shooting style and workflow is different. I used to be on your side of thinking. But especially with the latest Apple LOG on iPhone 15 pro it’s a truly capable camera.
One perspective you may want to consider is what other camera can you shoot, edit and post all on one device. For efficiencies sake it is far superior than dedicated cameras 🤷🏻♂️
As someone who has done photo and video work with a professional camera - I still use my phone for a number of reasons:
-the phone is going to be on me anyway, so really Im just packing any accessories I need. my phone + cage + handle is still lighter/more flexible than my main camera.
-if I am recording in a situation where I need to be discreet, there are times people are more accepting of phone recording than a big mirrorless camera, even if I have a small cage attached to the phone. Additionally some venues wont even let me bring the camera in at all.
-some companies actually desire the "phone" look for things like social media.
Different tools for different things. Additionally, experimentation is fun. Sometimes it's nice just to see how far you can take something.
I’m a director and prefer to work with a capable DP. But labor plus gear is expensive. So in between bigger shoots I like to make small projects, but don’t want to invest time and money into a $2500+ camera that I still have to learn to use when I can use the thing I already have in my pocket and spend a few hundred bucks on accessories.
HI Michael - great video! Can you expand a bit if the SD card write speed is sufficient for 4k60 prores HQ? And what rating of SD card would you recommed? Does the hub battleneck the system in any way? Thank you!
Can the dji mic 2 transmitter via bluetooth work.....on samsung s23 ultra with Blackmagic camera
still waiting for someone to make a case/cage that gives us the ability to use a variable ND, without stopping the use of MagSafe for mounting.
Question, if you charge through the anker dock, do you have overheating problems while recording?
I have a similar set up, but I designed it so I could pop on a magasfe inductive charger (and swap them out quickly and easily because its just a magnet) but my 15 Pro Max overheats really quickly when recording and charging at once which quickly became a fatal flaw of the design. Wondering if its just a problem with a wireless charger?
0.32 Blackmagic cam app was launched.
Nice, the only thing you shoud do is to show us some footage tou filmed with this gear, specially with these lenses..
Very interesting! Thank you!
I am wondering, if you can connect an external mic (via 3.5mm cable) to the headphone/mic jack of the adapter, to record video and sound with the Blackmagic camera app?! 😇
mee too
Same things✋
Hi Michael, do you have any comparisons or share some insights which one to get Beastgrip Pro or Beastcage, discussing topics routes for expansion, SSD, powebanks, etc.?
What’s the point of external glass on an iPhone. I’ll never understand that, ND makes sense.
To create a depth of field for some shots. It's nice to have the option to do that. Then again if you have external glass then just use a real camera.
Me too. I have never been able to understand that. And to think that these glasses could get one a decent camera.
Is there a way to have a magsafe power supply like a bank on there?
probably not with the right angle adapter, you'd have to have some sort of cable and attach the hub to the power bank instead.
That said, iPhones trying to record and do inductive charging at the same time overheat quite quickly so I don't think it would be desirable.
Zike is showing an interesting hub and storage solution at CES. Later they'll be releasing a power bank with built in storage.
Hope you don’t get a call when you’re using that
can I use the hub with an adaptor for the iphone 14?
interesting no cables.
The best I have see dude. Well done
I appreciate that man, thank you!
Thanks for posting this. One thing I did not see linked in the description was the right angle NATO rail -- could you provide a link to that?
ah, nevermind, I now see that is an option with the side handle from beastgrip
How do you get power into that setup?
Man oh man, such a SUPERB demo. I learned SO much. I'm also now a new sub. Tell me: what do you think is the BEST recording device. I mean, I like the MINIMALISM of your setup, but if you go Angelbird CFexpress Type B card at $300 (plus another 100 for the reader), you're getting SO much more data and SO much faster. ANyway, super demo!
3:33 where can I get this nato rail?
Great vid. I was pondering how to mount a SD card reader and boom there you are. Not only possibly lower heat and power consumption, but also clean HDMI out!
do you think sd cards have as good speed as ssd drives? I want to go with the cards as well but I am not sure of the speed.
@@coolxenasheither way u r limited to usb 3.2 speeds
Battery battery battery 🙄
Is the Speed of the anker card reader enough to handle proRes Log 4 k 60 frames footage?
Cool video, but I'll just keep using my DJI Pocket 3 since you get everything in one small package, including internal connection for 2 DJI Mic 2's without the transmitter. I will use my iPhone 15 Pro Max for handheld shooting with little to no accessories since it's a pain in the ass to mount anything without a cage and a bunch of shit dangling and sticking out from it. I guess if you already have the phone and don't wanna spend the cash on the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 creator combo and an additional DJI Mic 2, then you can rig out the phone instead on the cheap.
the Anker drains the battery completely in no time and overheats, even without a single shot…
I’ve filmed for 2+ hours and only used like 40% of the battery plenty of times? Not sure how this hub would drain the battery quickly
Have watched a lot of these videos from you and have decided to pull the trigger on an iPhone 15 pro and beast grip cage setup. I bought a 62mm K&F variable nd filter along with an adapter for 58-62 so I can use it with the beast grip 58mm adapter. But am contemplating buying one of the kits with lenses but can’t decide on a lens. I plan to do a lot of adventure, diy, and outdoors videography and was wondering if I should just get the bare cage with the nd filter and see if I need anything or if there is a clear option for which I should start with. All of them sound great but I just can’t make a decision and hate to kick myself later when I buy em separate
I bought the same setup you featured here.
iPhone 15 Pro, Anker Dock (same one pictured, darker silver), V90 UHS-II SD cards and the same USB-C breakout. I did plenty of testing before my first shoot with it, but sadly had a ton of dropped frames and lockups while shooting today. I was able to get through most of the day by constantly offloading files + starting new rolls which I realized the iPhone is not quite ready for. Was a really manual and tedious process - luckily I have a lot of experience as a DIT / with RED so was able to make it work with my usual workflow.
iPhone was capturing in 4K 24/48 in ProRes 422. Not sure what happened. :(
Damn. I’m sorry to hear that! Yeah seems SD card tech is being pushed by these new codecs on the phone. I’m actually waiting for a new CF Express type B card to come in and reader for the phone. With like 1,700MBs speeds it should easily handle the footage.
Any further updates or details on this dropped frame issue? I assume you were using the SanDisk UHS-II / V90 / U3 / class 10 SD cards rated at 300MBP/S? Do you feel like the issue was with the SD card, the Anker USB Hub or something else?
2:45 I have been looking at the Anker hub it is only rated at 5gbps, so you will get drop outs , have you tested a 40gbps /thunder 4 hub? How did it go
Anyone use Dji Mic 2 with Iphone 15 pro max Brandon Li cage?
2:45 I have been looking at the Anker hub it is only rated at 5gbps, so you will get drop outs , have you tested a 40gbps /thunder 4 hub? How did it go
hi nice setup, for the mic did you try using a 3,5mm cable?
This is nice
This Hub doesn´t work with dji Mic oder i make one thing false
There's a voice coming from behind you....
May I suggest a thin magnets which you may get it online for the ANKER hub? have 1 each side and when you slide in, it may feel the snap feeling in place. Not sure it may work, but I think it will.
what'is the noise ding ding ding... i can't listen to you...
Use Velcro 3M stickers instead of double sided tape
How do you have DOF adapter when it's not out?
Nice. My cable does get knocked and once that interrupted recording.
Man, I want to buy the iPhone filmmaking guide, but I'm stuck in a hell loop of resetting my password/error when resetting password.
Super disappointing.
Hey you’re having trouble with the login on my website?
@@initialfocus yup. I tried resetting the password and I get an error message when I enter a new password.
@paulengle5784 can you email me your email so I can look up the account and try to help? michael@initialfocusmedia.com
Very useful video man
Can you see the action button through the quarter thread hole?
where to get the right angle nato rail???
Oooh that's slick
Really nice setup. Thank you for sharing!
Is there a way to have a magsafe power supply like a bank on there?
probably not with the right angle adapter, you'd have to have some sort of cable and attach the hub to the power bank instead.
That said, iPhones trying to record and do inductive charging at the same time overheat quite quickly so I don't think it would be desirable.
I had been thinking about a MicroSD card solution with 1TB worth of storage but it turned out that it was too slow - turns out 220 Mb/s write Speeds are required for ProRes LOG so that solution was out, the other issue was just the very high cost of quality SD storage. So now I'm looking at a USB4 CFexpress 4.0 Type B Card Reader with ProGrade Digital 1TB CFexpress Type B Memory Card (Gold) that could hold 3 hours and 25 minutes of of 4K video in Rec709. It features super super fast read and write speeds too BUT the issue remains cost - about $500 in total. Measuring 3.1 x 3.1 x 0.9 inches I think it might just very well fit your rig design. But that's still a heck of a price tag to accept. Are you up to try it out?
Look at my latest video haha different brand but that exact setup. And just like you said, super expensive but suuuuper works! ProRes HQ 4K 60fps for like 5 hours
@@initialfocus Great to hear from you directly, I will go check it out now!
This is super cool !! Are there any issues recording through the Anker hub to an SD card with some of the higher Apple codecs? ProRes 422 or 422HQ? Any dropped frames when also using a wireless mic setup plugged into the Anker usb-c. I’m worried about the 10Gbps iPhone usb-c getting slowed by the 5Gbps Anker hub. Thanks!
It works okay in LT with a very fast SD card. But for long record sessions or anyone who wants HQ I’m uploading a video today actually that addresses it!
@@initialfocus Awesome!
1:17 how'd you get that unique font for the iphone lock screen? Is that in the latest iOS update, its cool
Just long press on the lock screen and after that a costomisation menu should pop up there you can change the language and font.
Thank you for posting Michael, very helpful...
Dare I say that in the iPhone 16 they need to add an internal recessed microSD card slot to eliminate all these janky "minimalist" rigs for storage. All the other parts are well constructed, but there is no escaping the Jerry-rigged USB storage solution. None of them are better than if Apple simply put in a tiny card slot.
Knowing Apple though they’d make some sort of proprietary micro SSD card thing like a RED minimag that costs $1,000 😅
@@initialfocus That mostly worked for Red when there was less competition. I think Apple's more likely to make iPhones with larger internal memory options before they would go to a proprietary media. It's hard to say, but I think if they went with a proprietary media they would find it an unprofitable venture as long as USB-C remains an option, and I doubt they will step backwards on that front.
Do you feel the need for a gimbal like the Dji Osmo 6, or is the footage stable enough prior to editing?
I am new to filming and would like to have a set up similar to this, but I have the thought that I would require a gimbal to aide the stablisation. Is this something I can improve during the editing process with FCP?
Depends on the shooting scenario I think. Stabilization is definitely incredible on the iPhone and can be enhanced further in 3rd party apps like Blackmagic camera app but sometimes a gimbal still will help to get super smooth footage.
@@initialfocus for the phone to carry a lense would that impact the gimbal from your experience?
I imagine if using a lense it limits the options for a gimbal and a SSD being attached?
are you sure that you can record unlimited time in sd card prores HQ ? I dont think its fast enough...
V90 should work
This port isn't fast enough to record ProRes to SD card. The speed of the port is only 104 mb/s so you'll end up dropping a lot of frames. The speed of the SD card doesn't matter if the port can't handle to speed to begin with. You'll need to use the USB-C port which says it has a speed of 5 gb/s.
Where can you get that right angle nano rail?
Beastgrip sells it as a Side Handle plus L Mount package - I not sure if it's technically a nato rail or not.
Very nice dude! Does the iPhone can output video via HDMI so then you could connect to a wireless video transmitter or not?
It does work! Find it glitches sometimes depending on the adapter but yes you can HDMI out!
Does HDMI out work for iPhone with this anger adapter? @@initialfocus
Can the iPhone 12 max pro video footage save to an external sd card?
Fantastic video ❤
Not in the same way that the iPhone 15 pro with USB C connector can. But you can use the lightning to SD card reader to move photos/videos from the photos app to the card
@@initialfocus ty
Just to clarify about 7:17 - why would you want to connect the Rode Wireless PRO receiver via a USB C cable to the Anker USB hub? Is the audio in that situation still being stored locally on the Rode Wireless PRO? Is audio then also being recorded to the SD card in the Anker hub?
In the Rode Central app you can configure your Wireless PRO to record internally while outputting an audio signal. As for recording onto the SD card, as long as your footage is recording onto the SD card, your audio will record onto that clip. Be sure to check your settings in your recording app of choice (FilmicPro, BMCam, etc.) that your audio source is your Wireless PRO
@_ Thank you very much for the detailed reply! So am I to assume that the reason he had a USB C cable going from the Rode Wireless Pro receiver to the Anker Hub was so that the Rode audio would be both stored on the Rode itself AND also on the SD card?
Yup! Having the audio stored on the Rode AND on the clip gives a good backup, so if something happened with the audio file on the Rode, it’s still recorded onto the clip (and vice versa).
The more backups the better :)
@_ Thanks so much again!
why don't get a pro camera for half of the price instead? I don't understand... please explain.
where is that right angle nato rail from? it’s not in the links
I think it comes with the side handle?
@@initialfocus wow thank you i was trying so hard to find it! im surprised it isn’t being sold stand alone
How do you power it for a full day shoot?
This is a big problem I have as well that I can't figure out how to solve. Like you can easily run a power to the hub, or use inductive charging but with my 15 Pro Max it makes so much heat while charging and recording at the same time that I get an error within 10min or so telling me the phone is overheating and recording stops until it cools down. My strat has been to charge in between clips, but that can be really disruptive.
I feel your pain man, I had a full day shoot planned with the iPhone 15 Pro and it was my first proper shoot with it (Music Video).
Basically what I soon realised is that I was going to run out of charge very fast due to the SSD getting power from the phone.
So I had to think quick and went full Mcgiver, strapped a 40gbps adapter that had the capabilities to draw charge and also plug in the SSD, I ran a long USB-A to USB-C from a slim V-lock that was in my pocket which powered it all day no overheating, it wasnt perfect but it got the job done lol.
I used the same method on another shoot and I am yet to figure out a better option :|
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I love that you put your wife's images as background. You're like the next MarkusPix.