Donald vs Daffy: How Roger Rabbit Made The Greatest Crossover - Eddache
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Donald Duck and Daffy Duck have only ever met ONCE. Let's look at the lengths it took to get these two classic cartoon characters together.
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Sources:
Behind The Ears (Documentary)
Who Censored Roger Rabbit by Gary K Wolf
The Secrets Of Toontown (CBS)
Just How Racist Is Song Of The South: screencrush.com...
Disney War by James B. Stewart: books.google.c...
Who Framed Roger Rabbit 25th Anniversary Ppanel (San Diego Comic Con 2013): • Full Who Framed Roger ...
Toontown Confidential (Special Feature of Who Framed Roger Rabbit DVD/Blu-Ray)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit Script (3rd Draft): www.scriptslug...
Snopes.com Donald Duck Racist Slur: www.snopes.com...
Chuck Jones: Conversations by Maureen Furniss
The Experience by Bruce Loeffler & Brian Church: books.google.c...
Roger Rabbit 2: www.slashfilm....
Music used:
In The Lobby / Maroon Studios - Who Framed Roger Rabbit OST
Hungarian Rhapsody (Dueling Pianos) - Who Framed Roger Rabbit OST
Swing Theory - Freedom Trail Studio
Hungarian Rhapsody - Liszt
Special thanks to Thomas Ridgewell & Elliot Gough for the greenscreen bit!
You did a wonderful job on this. The Dueling Pianos is my favorite scene from that movie as well and the whole movie was a masterpiece. You made my little animation geek heart soar.
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@@lftleon2731 im not bluffing go and visit it
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Oh hello
People accidentally hearing Donald say the "N Word" is even funnier when just before, Daffy called him a "quacker"
I definitely heard the n-word as a kid! You live and you learn.
Not to mention the setting (as he pointed out with the "cotton club" thing) and that the toons are quite literally the "colored folk" of the film. Pretty interesting dynamic and fun to see in such a light hearted family film. Good old adult themes in cartoons.
donald: I'm gonna... say the n-word!
not to mention that its Donald (white) saying it to daffy (black)
that makes it the second most racist cartoon character called Donald with slurred speech i heard :D0
@@eslov all Ducks in Disney are White
That would probably explain during the whole club scene why Betty Boop is the only toon there that Eddie seems to get along with. Sure, she is good looking by 1920’s standards, but she’s also much more classy, witty, and restrained than most of the toons around her. In most of her shorts, Betty was sort of the straight man to all of the insanity playing out as opposed to the one causing said insanity.
I've seen another RUclips video where someone pointed out that, if you look really close, you can see a Betty Boop doll in Eddie's office. This implies that he was a fan of hers when he was younger and still has some respect for her, which is why he's so shocked to see she's now reduced to waiting tables ("Business has been slow since toons went to colour").
Not to mention that he did smile at her when she approached his table.
Betty is a personal friend of Eddie's. She calls him by name.
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Wreck-it Ralph got pretty close to a universal crossover, despite Mario not really being in it.
Imagine an equivalent to "Dueling Pianos" with Mario & Sonic...!
They had O N E J O B !
@@lugbzurg8987 True
Bowser was in it so thats something and im pretty sure when they had the party in the penthouse he was mentioned
Larry Bundy Jr
Bowser was.
It's always odd hearing Bob Hoskins' natural British accent. For probably half my life or more, I had no idea he was British. His American accent, which he used in nearly everything I saw him in, was so spot on that I didn't even question it. I never saw him in interviews, just on film. It was so spot on that, when he actually speaks with a British accent in the movie "Hook", THAT sounded more like him doing an accent than his American accent was. It was only later, when I heard him actually interviewed, that I found out he was British. However, as I said, most my life I thought his natural speaking voice was that gruff Eddie Valient/Mario (from that horrible live-action movie) voice.
He probably had the best American accent of any British actor ever.
I came to the comments just to see if someone found it as odd as me. I literally never knew until this moment that he wasn't naturally with that thick new yorker type accent.
i never knew
Mystic--I know what you mean. HFRR was the first film I saw him in and I thought he did a fantastic job. Then I saw Maid In Manhattan, and thought, "ok, the guy can do a proper upper-crust British accent." Then I found out the truth. There's a couple of really good videos on Bob here on RUclips. A lot of his stuff was in British films where he did a number of different Brit accents, but he was a very good at probably doing whatever accent the directors needed. Another actor like him is Gary Oldman.
Come on Luigi we got to go to woik
I had no idea he was British until I watched this video just now. This is the first time I've heard his natural accent. Then again, WFRR (and, admittedly, the Super Mario Bros movie) were the only things I've seen him in, to my knowledge. May have seen bits and pieces of Hook (like, five or ten minutes total 20-ish years ago) but not the whole thing.
Out of RUclips critics that use an animated avatar, and actually attempt to animate it instead of just using stills, you are still somehow doing the best job I've seen on this platform with the expressions and lipsyncing despite using the most outdated early 2000's flash graphics. I am actually impressed. Good job.
And I really do want to emphasize _critics_ as I know there are brilliant animators here doing their own thing. All that I really want to say here is that a lot of people do a really half-assed job with animating their avatars.
Haha! Like me!!
i like sliokhawk but i admit his animation is only good when he’s not explaining something and he’s doing a skit
I've really always disliked RUclipsrs that use flash animation or stills instead of voiceover only or live action. But eddache just picks really good topics for videos so I don't mind as much
I love that they used Classic Daffy, the unhinged borderline psychopath. A-hoo-hoo-hoo!
And Donald's Temper😡
My fav version
@@freshprinceofcharlotte same
It did take place in the 40s after all :D
Which WB brought in a more psychopathic insane daffy currently
So Pepsi is the reason Who Framed Rodger Rabbit exists? That's a rare sentence I've said.
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I thought it was *d i e t c o k e.*
It was diet coke silly. And Disney has continued this practice today with mass merchandising for all of their box office movies today.
They should have given exactly equal screen time to both Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi.
Diet Coke
I love Donald more because he channels the demon within in crucial moments.
Donald is such a Hell Demon
I remember at the end of the short "Soup's On" that Donald turned into a devil and chased his nephews into thr night.
Can anyone imagine if Donald Duck and Daffy Duck starred in their very own movie which is sort of like a spinoff of Who Framed Roger Rabbit where they cause pranks and fights on each other because they hate each other?
Spy vs Spy, but with ducks
Wait, Chuck Jones wanted there to be an epic circling shot to pan around the pianos? Yeah no wonder that was altered, that's a helluva lot harder to do than just a few still shots. The movie was already expensive as it was.
Just imagine, with modern advancements in computer animation, that scene would be completely doable today.
@@MrStrikecentral Well, with today's emphasis of "realistic" CGI in every partially animated film and cynicism in hollywood as a whole, I doubt it would come to be. But if the stars aligned, it would be much more practical with digital technology. God I miss the late 90s-early 2000s era of digitally enhanced 2D animation...
@@sladikk But god it looked weird for cartoons that have been on before that
@@nickrustyson8124 what do you mean?
@@sladikk The Simpsons mainly
The archival recording of Clarence Nash was used first and right when Donald Duck say "Oh yeah?", the current voice actor was changed. You can easily tell by the quality of the audio.
R.I.P. Clarence Nash (Donald Duck)
R.I.P. Mel Blanc (Daffy Duck)
Dude I LOVE these!
Yo
The ducks were always my favourite characters from the two studios, so I would have gone to see this movie if it had been this scene and 87 minutes of white noise, but fortunately it proved to be brilliant and remains one of my favourite movies. Thanks for this vid!
I would argue that the Dueling Pianos scene contributes to world-building and atmosphere-creating. Eddie's entering a world where toons -- all toons, famous or unknown -- exist and interact with each other. How better to do that than to pit two comedic heavyweights against one another?
Integral to the plot? No. But as you said, it helps set up an expectation of Jessica Rabbit that will shortly be subverted. And it's a perfect way to introduce a character who for the rest of the movie will be setting up expectations and then subverting them.
Thats what was said in the video.
The amount of technical knowhow applied to create a world you can just enjoy reminds me very much of the Muppet films, or in fact anything featuring the Muppets. Henson et al were always trying innovative new ways to make the puppets do things that people ultimately forgot they weren't supposed to be able to do...
It's a lot of the same or similar methods, puppetry and attention to detail.
Just to confirm Tony Anslmeo confirmed that some of Rodger Rabbit was Clarence specifically the line "dog gone stubborn little" which is actually "dog gone stubborn window" Tony said they had to pull from library SOOOOO technically this would be Clarences Donald last appearance which is pretty nice to know
I was about to comment the same thing but I wanted to see that since this is a 4 year old video if someone had commented. But also Mickey’s Philharmagic would’ve been the last use Nash’s Donald as it also used archival recordings along with new audio by Anselmo.
Sequel idea: "Where the Toon Did Roger Go?!" Eddy's granddaughter, played by Alexandra Daddario, finds out about her family's history with 'old timey toons' (modern ones R all CGI & the "lineys" R extinct), & outta curiosity she goes looking for the alleged last line drawn toon, Roger Rabbit. As many of the surviving cast as possible return, with the portraits of Eddy & his brother serving as the Bob Hoskins cameo.
Yes!!!!!!
Knowing how they went about dong all of this in practical effects and puppetry is not irrelevant... If anything I have even _more_ of an appreciation now for the whole movie.
This scene never fails to make me laugh. The heavy dull THUD when Daffy punches Donald, and how he just immediately starts going “WOOHOO HOO WOO HOOHOO!” right after Donalds cannonball blows through the piano
I’m so glad I found this channel.
My dude you are in for a treat
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Run while you still can.
The fact they used animatronics for some scenes and later put animation over it blew my mind. Awesome stuff!
Seeing those two Ducks together and interacting on the Big Screen was just wonderful! I was in my late twenties at the time and watched the scene in awe and with deep appreciation for what they did for us.
In terms of the Golden age of cartoons, I find Daffy more funnier than Donald.
Yeah, I think the contrast comes from the fact that Disney cartoons hit more on the emotional sense while The Looney Tunes hit on the funny and chaotic sense
@@rockhistoria2537 i agree. It is like flavors.
Honestly, I love the dueling pianos scene, and I still laugh my butt off at the scene every time I watch it. I've always been a Looney Tunes fan more so than Disney, and even tho Chuck didn't like it, I still think this completely captures both Daffy and Donald's personalities perfectly.
I love this movie and I too love the Dueling Pianos scene. Little disheartening to learn that Chuck Jones turned his nose up at the movie, but whatever, just cos you're hailed as genius doesn't necessarily mean you're right about *everything.* Awesome video, Eddie!
Today it's all CG. I love the magic of practical effects
Fr 😂😂😂
Also a childhood fav of mine. Came home from a few days in hospital having my tonsils out to find my dad had rented it for me to watch.
I fell in love with it straight away.
I love “Who framed Roger Rabbit” it’s one of my favorite movies.
1n 1988, I was 19, and even then I knew as this scene played out, I was seeing history. I couldn't believe properties from two different studios were on the same screen together - interacting. It was BRILLIANT. It would be nice to see it happen again. So much red tape instead of a handshake like it used to be.
This was terrific, especially the research you put into this. I adore that it's mindless entertainment that does nothing for the ploy point but segue nicely into Jessica's introduction.
I know it's a bit vain, but it made mw happy seeing my name on the Patreon credits. Especially since it's in a video about one of my favourite movies of all time. And I agree that the movie is great even of you don't know how it was made, knowing just makes it more amazing.
I’ve argued for over a decade that this is the greatest scene in cinema history... You sir, are, the, man!
This is a very good analysis and trivia drop. I am grateful.
I hope you don't mind if I contribute my own reason for loving the scene as well: The fact that each one is himself, in-character, and how each reacts to the other. Daffy and Donald are similar like you said, but each is very much his own distinctive character, written by different people, with different senses of humor, sculpted by different circumstances, and each going about his designated personality traits- including the ones in which they're supposedly "the same"- differently.
Daffy is talkative and makes quips Groucho Marx-esque quips here, as is his personality at the time of the movie- this is before Chuck Jones created the "Daffy" most folks know of nowadays- while Donald Duck is a guy of few words who emphatically resorts to his temper when those fail him- just as is the case in his canon appearances, wherein he was very much a pantomime character, didn't say too many things, and what he did say did have a certain simplicity to it. Daffy is hyperactive, spontaneous, and arguably crazy- as he was at this time, before Chuck Jones made the much-less-hyperactive, jealous, self-defeating version- while Donald is brutal and deliberately vindictive- just like in his canonical adventures.
Too many crossovers put the meeting characters on the same page; making them essentially talk or react to things the same way, or at least on the same basic "wavelength", if you will; putting them on generally common ground, such as to essentially be clones, with superficial semblances of their traits superimposed, and that called "good enough".
I _HATE_ that, and it's why I still have yet to find any truly satisfying crossovers- aside, of course, from Roger Rabbit. No, Smash Bros. certainly doesn't count; that arguably personifies the very problem thus cited.
"Duelling Pianos" is truly a clash of differently originating characters as it should be: Asymmetrical, somewhat disjointed, frustrating, and with no misguided attempts to get these two completely different characters on any sort of common ground.
As a duck I can say for certain that this was the most hype moment in the theatre
I'd like to see the entire anime industry try to make a Rodger Rabbit style movie
I would like to say that 'Detective Pikachu' kinda/sorta attempted it, but dunno if that would count.
I love your intro. It's short and to-the-point, the way an intro should be. It also feels like you put real effort into these videos unlike 95% of animation-related videos on RUclips.
0:55 eddache was on tiktok before it was cool xD
These desevere more likes
@@flamersshowsandmore3864
This deserve a heart like
I mean... is it cool now?
And he is not happy
Eddie Torres it’s not cool
5:07 HOLD ON. I didn't know Benedict Cumbermatch was the voice of Donald Duck...and that he ages in reverse!
Donald has a Quacking Voice
Daffy spits when he Talks
One day Death Battles going to do this and it's going to be the most insane Duck Battle of All
The Duelling pianos scene gives Valiant some great reaction moments. We see him scornful of the whacky bar staff. But then he’s even more contemptuous of Daffy and Donald’s disastrous performance. It really builds up that part of Eddie’s character that’s at odds with the familiarity that Betty Boop has with him.
Wow! GREAT VIDEO! Who Framed Roger Rabbit was one of, if not, my favorite childhood movie. Your video does great respect to this unique and cherished movie. I really loved it. Excellent work. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos!
I hadn’t seen this movie until earlier this year, and being a huge cartoon/ animation fan and a huge Disney fan, I was super excited. My. Jaw. DROPPED. When I saw this scene. Donald Duck and Daffy Duck together? I’d never thought it would happen and it’s something I didn’t know I needed until I saw it. It’s my favorite scene from the movie and I’ll love it forever.
1:00 Young Eddache: dancing
Eddache: Having a Vietnam Flashback.
That Daffy Duck "Whoohoo!" at their ending was typical...
"Song of the South", did not have slaves, since it took place after the Civil War. If Uncle Remus had been a slave, he wouldn't have been leaving the plantation, when he became discouraged by the boy's mother wanting him to have nothing more to do with the old man. Walt Disney set the story after the civil war, because he wanted to make the film about the stories, not slavery. He also made it part live action, because he felt that these talented African American actors should be seen, rather than just make it an entirely animated film.
@Mac Loud why wouldn't he ?
@Mac Loud why wouldn't he have anything good to say about that movie ?
@Mac Loud what's so bad about songs of the south that he should be disliking it like you obviously, I never watched it and as far as I can tell it's just about an old black man singing songs in his cabine. Can't see how that's threatening
@Mac Loud let me guess, you're also among those who dislike dumbo because of the crows ?
What's the matter ? Media from half a century represents some kind of thrat to you?
My my this yank is quick to anger
"12 years a slave should never have been made because it depicts racism and slavery".
This new format of yours is fantastic!. Love this scene but hadn't even thought of about half of the stuff you said.
Donald v daffy: dawn of injustice
This was such a well put together video breaking down that iconic scene! Would have loved to see what Chuck Jones' initial vision for that scene was though! Bit of new info for me was that I had no idea that the toons in that club were meant to represent of black people at that time!
3:43 - That looks eeeeextreeeemely unsafe. O.o
I definitely hear Nash in some of the Roger clips you played. “Dog gone stubborn little” is definitely Nash.
A thousand more videos like this wouldn't be enough
The dueling pianos is one of the best scenes in the whole movie. Too bad we will never see anything like that ever again.
An awesome movie and the atmosphere of the Ink and Paint club scene is one of my favourite parts of it. It's also great to see Daffy looking truly manic, like he now isn't.
Fun Fact: At the time of its release Who Framed Roger Rabbit had the longest end credits of any movie. Over 6 and a half minutes
Really liking your analysis vids! This one especially feels like a really good animation lecture :D Learnt alot more than a real one too
In regard to Chuck Jones' distaste for the film, a lot of his criticism really came from, as he stated in an interview, the film paying more attention to the live-action aspect of it than the animation one, plus he had come to regard his take on Daffy as being the definite form of the character, and therefore regarded how the piano duet scene ended up being as a bit of a backward step - but that was kind of the point Spielberg was making; back in 1947 Daffy wasn't yet the character that Chuck Jones would define him as in the best of his work which came in the 1950s; Daffy was still in 1947 what I would call 'young Daffy'. Furthermore, whilst indeed some of us wish the animated stars had more of a role to play than they did, the point the film makes is that it is foremost Eddie Valiant's story, with Roger Rabbit himself being a constant helping him every step of the way.
Regards, Samuel Farris.
7:16 Apparently, Jones desperately wanted to use the meaner and angrier version of Daffy from HIS shorts from the 1950s for the sequence (He also wanted Daffy to lose to duel, which violating Warner Bros and Disney's demand that neither character from both studio s could overshadows the other. Dave Spafford (animator of the piano duel sequence) then had to tell Jones that they couldn't use that take since the movie was set in 1947 and therefore, they could only use Clampett's version of the character. Since Jones hated Clampett, he got upset at that version being used. So, Spafford & Zemeckis decided to make fake animation for that sequence using Jones' version of the character just so they could fool Jones into thinking that he got his way after all. Jones then left, thinking that his version would be included in the film and subsequently became upset when he viewed the film and saw Clampett's version of the character in it.
Also, you might be surprised to learn that quite a lot of people in the animation business (not just Jones) actually HATE Roger Rabbit. Almost all of the pre 1970s Disney staff that was still alive despised it (and most of them loved the Disney renaissance films)
Fun fact, my great great uncle Kenneth Roskam was an animator on the Three Calbairo's and animated the scenes with the rooster character Panchito Pistoles, but i've been having the hardest damn time confirming that since he shared those duties with several other guys and the 40's weren't a great time for getting credited for your work if you weren't important
Very well researched video. Didn't know So much went into that scene
Thanks for all the behind the scenes information!
It makes me really wish someone would make a good spiritual successor to that movie. Not necessarily a true sequel, but another film to blend these two worlds in such a unique manner, where everything real is real, and everything animated is animated.
Beautiful video ! I love that scene. The movie in general is absolutely amazing to me. Artist nowadays can only dream of doing what these ones have accomplished in the making of this film. Its mind blowing.
My favorite scene in the movie. Also Betty Boop being present for Jessica Rabbit's performance was a fantastic callback.
This is *hot stuff!*
That's a Sexy word to Say
Eddie, due to your VALIANT efforts here, you earned yourself a subscriber.
I never really thought about how they did... heck, ANY of the practical effects in the movie. I just accepted it.
True quality comes out of people handling details nobody else thinks to even acknowledge, and once they're done aren't consciously noticed. The careful attention to moving light, reflections and all the other million things that just *happen on their own* in live-action is what elevates "Who framed Roger Rabbit" from a goofy noir spoof with cartoon characters pasted over the top of it into a true action/animation hybrid that your brain can just ACCEPT with minimal deliberate suspension of disbelief.
Once you accept that Toons and Humans exist within the same world, there are no inconsistencies between the two to jar you out of it.
if I remember correctly, Both WB and Disney were so anal about sharing screen time that they insisted that they count the frames of film the respective characters were in. so "38 seconds" wasn't enough. they wanted to make sure that the other didn't get a single frame more than their own character.
1:29 the characters lip sync to his question
Before anyone says this: MOST AMBITIOUS CROSSOVER SINCE INFINITY WAR- Just know to stop driving this dang-old joke in the ground.
Great video. I'm really loving the new style! Also, I can't wait to see Shark Movies of 2018!
You remind me off the whole main cast of Eddsworld..
It makes me feel nostalgic
this is totally how these two characters would interact
Holy crap. This was a nice vid with tons of info I'd not known before. So kudos to that. But what puts this vid over the top awesome is that last line!
Can we get a F in the chat for past Edd
Richard Williams is a natural prodigy at managing to bring Daffy and Donald Duck to life on the big screen, side to side with each other, as the chief animation director of the film. He's someone I deeply respect as someone who studies animation as a hobby.
I subbed to your channel after watching this. Who Framed Roger Rabbit
was one of my favorite movies when I was a kid and I still love it. Great video.
I just realized
Edd was born the same year Roger Rabbit (movie) was released.
1988.
There is a video from a con where Tony Anselmo confirms the usage of Clarence Nash's lines as the people checking the PG rating and all that came to him because they couldn't understand a line from Donald and thought it to be a curse word. Tony then told them it was a line used from one of Clarence's preformance and that Donald was actually saying something about a 'stubborn window', but that it was inaudible in the movie.
Link?
@@eddache I'll let you know when I find the video again.
Edd I’ve been watching your videos for years and I’m in love with this new format
This is, indeed, one of my favorite movies, and that's basically my favorite scene too! Such a great movie and such great craftsmanship...
That was my most memorably favorite part of the movie.
I remember watching this movie in DisneyXD when I was about 5... still have no idea how they managed to put that movie in a family-friendly movie... I mean... we got Jessica Rabbit, Betty Boop, a crossover between Disney and Warner (in a Disney channel) and I wonder how much did they censor the movie... I re-watched it a couple months ago, and I loved it...
Yet, Mickey Mouse & Bugs Bunny were Great Pals.
We really need either a Remake or Retelling of the Movie.
True
axelrayne69 no remake. A sequel at least.
Eddie holy christ this is good content. Like being honest, your humor isn't my thing and yet still I love this. You manage to present stuff in a way so that you balance out everything perfectly, and I think doing this the way you are may get you far. One thing you need to improve on? Titles and thumbnails. Overcomplicate it and people might not watch because it's too much to read or see in a thumbnail. Imagine you have a few seconds to get that person's attention. A simple powerful title, and a minimalist thumbnail, and you've struck gold. But the video is incredible, keep doing what you're doing bud ;)
Such a satisfying video to watch. Thank you for all the passionate work put into this work or art about art!
*sees title* hm, I don’t remember making a 12-min video essay on the thing I talk to my friends about every waking moment of my life
This was ace. WFRR was one of my favourite films as a kid. You’re right, I never realised how much work it took until I watched the documentary on it.
I freaking LOVE this new format, those videos are so cool. Good job Eddie
These videos are great and all but if I were to give one piece of constructive criticism it would be that the cartoon Eddie is kind of a lame idea. I'd have it be one static image with maybe two or three alternate expressions and have it be a digital painting. Something you would commission once and then just keep reusing for all your vids. Otherwise really enjoyable content.
Then he'd basically be a weird colored version of TheOdd1sout.
Oh hey that's where you've been! Good to have you back. Missed your work!
Omg, how did I not see this video? I love it! Who framed Rodger Rabbit is one of my fav movies of all time and everytime I tell my friends they are so confused because this movie is from 1988 and I am from 1998. I think this movie is amazing, so much effort put into it. It's just great.
I love the ink and paint club, its a great reference to the real life ink and paint girls from Disney,
Loving this style of video. Looking forward to more stuff!
I always forget Bob Hoskins was British. Hearing him apeak normally while dressed as Valiant hurts my head.
9:29 A FAMILY PICTURE!
Thanks for the upload
I believe the Expression is "Suspension of Disbelief"
what I love about this scene is that the toons in the real world look more scary than in the cartoon world. Donald and Daffy create real chaos, break real objects that can harm people and Eddy's reactions show that. That whats fascinate me as a kid, to see those funny characters I loved acting like crazy unpredictable lunatics
Everything you said was spot on, and I recognized and appreciated it originally, but now can acknowledge it more out loud. Fantastic movie....