The Paradox of Back To The Future vs Free Will - Eddache

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  • @eastonmoon
    @eastonmoon Год назад +396

    The free will conflict is why I like Ben10's "every time someone messes with time it creates a branching timeline, an alternate future if you will" rule.

    • @torotits
      @torotits Год назад +11

      isn’t that similar to loki? (been a while since i watched it please correct me if not!!)

    • @classicspud
      @classicspud Год назад +17

      @@torotits I think that is the marvel universe in general with a different universe for each different decision

    • @Gojiro7
      @Gojiro7 Год назад +31

      The one thing I like about Doctor Paradox in Ben 10 was that he went insane being trapped in a infinite time loop......then got bored of it and went un-insane through free time and will power, allowing him to freely travel time through complete understanding of it since time is an illusion and knowing how a trick works makes you able to work around it

    • @partymix1997
      @partymix1997 Год назад +2

      That would make me feel better, any study’s that prove it?

    • @Fuzzleberry
      @Fuzzleberry Год назад +11

      Multi verse theory is a common version of time travel even dragon ball Z uses it, it's far easier to avoid paradoxes and plotholes like that.

  • @honeycombc
    @honeycombc Год назад +518

    Why I actually really like about Back to the Future’s time travel is it’s inconsistency. On one hand Marty has to make his parents meet otherwise he won’t exist. But I’m doing that he changes the future, despite it already being the future. It’s silly, it’s inconsistent, and it’s just a damn good movie!!

    • @mr.burn-out6553
      @mr.burn-out6553 Год назад +20

      Doc Brown could've reached out to Marty to create a stable time-line, considering he embraced knowing events beforehand and keep being a time-traveler at the end so he might've corrected some paradoxes to help his pal.
      Doc did knew where Marty and Jennifer would be after the DeLorean got turned into junk.

    • @Kirs..
      @Kirs.. Год назад +18

      Ok, here is something that people miss about back to the future. There is such things as *branching timelines* , there isn’t a *single* timeline that is constantly being changed by Doc and Marty, but instead is an *entirely different* timeline where the future has been changed by Doc and Marty. This is why Marty was able to almost fade from existence, and why old Biff was able did fade from existence in a deleted scene after he returned from the past.

    • @HiperPivociarz
      @HiperPivociarz Год назад +8

      I'd actually argue it's inconsistent. Sometimes they act like Marty's actions cause changes to the timeline, and sometimes they act like he was always supposed to go back in time. The guy becomes the mayor because he's inspired by Marty. Chuck Berry writes his song because he hears Marty play it. Then why is the guy Mayor in the original timeline? Why does that song exist in the original timeline?

    • @HiperPivociarz
      @HiperPivociarz Год назад +4

      @@esmeecampbell7396 But the way it's presented it's like a cheeky "This is what this comes from" joke

    • @CamTheWarlock
      @CamTheWarlock Год назад +6

      Exactly. When somethings a good movie, people are more willing to forgive inconsistencies. If it’s a bad movie, it’s going to be very harshly examined, but almost everyone who does examine BTTF do it in such a way that it’s obvious they don’t really care too much, because they like the movie, and wouldn’t want to change it even if given that chance.

  • @lord_egg
    @lord_egg Год назад +370

    Thing I find funny about Back to the Future 1 is that he has to fix his parents otherwise he disappears. A Paradox. Yet in the second one Biff changes the past, meaning Doc is imprisoned before he builds the time machine...a paradox that means when Marty goes back to the future there are now 2 Marty's because he couldn't go to the past. Yet for some reason he is still there even though he couldn't be there due to the paradox.

    • @travissmith2848
      @travissmith2848 Год назад +44

      There is a deleted scene where he survives the delayed effects of time travel changes long enough to get back to his starting time only to die by painfully fading from existence.

    • @twpsyn
      @twpsyn Год назад +10

      @@travissmith2848 yeah the time machine they use after that scene is the same one doc from the og timeline made
      (or doc 2 from the nice timeline at the end of bttf1 to be precise)

    • @DrMcFly28
      @DrMcFly28 Год назад +32

      Because in BTTF the time stream doesn't instantly react to changes, it allows time for course correction and slowly morphs into a new reality. If you do want a rationalization, it may be that the timeline has a tendency towards snapping to its baseline and will favor changes and delays that would ultimately help avoid paradoxes. It doesn't really make sense, but time travel in general never passes scrutiny, so I'm ok with this particular suspension of disbelief.
      There's a cool science fiction story that I read as a kid where a person gets slowly erased out of existence, first witnessing subtle changes around him, then gradually more drastic ones when ultimately his family disappears, people on his job don't recognize him anymore and finally he disappears altogether. Now that I'm older I'd probably interpret this as some sort of allegory of the Alzheimer disease or simply aging, but when I was young I always felt the story had a strong BTTF vibe, as if some unknown time traveler made a change in the timeline, and the protagonist of the story was simply a collateral victim, witnessing the timestream slowly adjusting to a state where he has never been born at all.

    • @lord_egg
      @lord_egg Год назад +2

      @@DrMcFly28 That still doesn't prevent the fact that there is 2 Marty's and more than enough time for him to be erased.

    • @piratepop7115
      @piratepop7115 Год назад +2

      Did it specify before he built the time machine? I don’t remember that

  • @ulischmidt03
    @ulischmidt03 Год назад +88

    I like to imagine Marty not getting into an accident resulted in OUR 2015

    • @wizardsuth
      @wizardsuth Год назад +22

      You mean his getting in an accident would have given us self-tying shoes, dehydrated pizza, hoverboards, flying cars, and weather control? Dang.

    • @GrosvnerMcaffrey
      @GrosvnerMcaffrey Год назад

      I read somewhere the mr fusions were going to be unstable and accidentally cause nuclear devastation so doc had to travel in time to stop thier creations so its because he prevented mr fusions creation thus changing 2015 to ours

    • @rachelcookie321
      @rachelcookie321 Год назад +5

      @@wizardsuth we do actually have self tying shoes, Nike even made some back in 2016 based off the ones from back to the future so that’s one thing you don’t have to moss out on. We’ve also technically had flying cars before but people realised flying cars aren’t actually a good idea and stopped trying.

    • @cameronjim2983
      @cameronjim2983 Год назад

      There is actually a reason for OUR timeline, in that all the futuristic stuff cause a disastrous future w/ the insta-hydrated foods causing overweight and health problems and the Mr. Fusions being faulty leading to nuclear winter. So doc altered the past to the present we’re living in.

    • @Aetharn
      @Aetharn 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@rachelcookie321even weather control was tried before during the vietnam war (The US army had a branch with the slogan "Make mud not war") but they were stopped since it wouldn't be ethical to control the weather.

  • @crcoghill
    @crcoghill Год назад +128

    I've always liked the idea of split Timelines. For example: you are given the choice of either getting out of bed the moment your alarm goes off or wait another half hour or so. Each moment causes a split that has minor or massive consequences, for better or worse. Like the moment Marty doesn't race and get in an accident: that's a moment that should have been a split Timeline.
    Nothing is really set in stone since those stones could be paved in another direction or go down the one built but later hit another fork in the road.

    • @partymix1997
      @partymix1997 Год назад +1

      Would be good but has there be any studies I’d be interested in looking at them

    • @Tortue2006
      @Tortue2006 Год назад

      That’s called a multiverse

    • @FoBro91
      @FoBro91 Год назад +3

      @@Tortue2006 A multiverse can be different than alternate timelines though. For example, you can easily justify how an alternate universe exists with giant radioactive pigs with wings that co-exist with talking dinosaurs. Because, well, it's an alternate universe. You don't really *need* a reason, any kind of world that you can think of has the possibility of existing. That being said, it's pretty hard to argue how that same world can exist in an alternate timeline through natural choices.

    • @Tortue2006
      @Tortue2006 Год назад +1

      @@FoBro91 and when you have a different timeline that gets created for each choice, you have a multiverse

    • @wizardsuth
      @wizardsuth Год назад

      One interpretation of the Uncertainty Principle is that every time an unpredictable event occurs, the universe splits and all possible outcomes occur in the resulting universes. Since unpredictable events are extremely common this would imply an extraordinarily large number of coexisting universes.

  • @nemmeton
    @nemmeton Год назад +74

    i absolutely love the conclusion that maybe the future *is* written, but if we don’t act with love and compassion those parameters, *that’s* when things go wrong. people often think that the song “the power of love” has little to do with these films, but it really has everything to do with them - love is the transformative force that saves/changes many characters, and even the timeline itself. it sounds a little cheesy, but i’ve always loved that emotional, human core to an otherwise action-packed trilogy of films.

  • @caitlinabbott7895
    @caitlinabbott7895 Год назад +81

    I'm reading all of the newspaper text gags, and they're so funny,
    There's:
    -.ethan and the Cryptocodile
    -Walt Disney is brought back to life and in in extreme pain
    -Paul Mario, the third Mario brother
    -Little bit of Marmite has been in the butter for 5 days now
    -Martin Freeman sure is in Black Panther 2
    - Accidentally printing the funnies where the crossword puzzle would be and people try to solve The Garfield
    - The monkeys that wrote Hamlet made a very bad sequel
    _ Check out this rock I found!
    _ Buy this Wise Old Man!

    • @dabatman5187
      @dabatman5187 Год назад +10

      You missed the “Study suggests those who read small print In newspaper gags over 10x more virile”

    • @excaliberdg1178
      @excaliberdg1178 Год назад +6

      In the biff 1985 timeline Richard Nixon won a 4th term

  • @MarionettePuppetMaster
    @MarionettePuppetMaster Год назад +176

    My dad and I have watch the Back to the Future trilogy to this very day, and knowing the context of all of these three films, especially that something that involves with "Free Will", was indeed surreal and surprising as well. Anyways, I did enjoy the video, and I for sure will get the Muffin Time gift. As always, stay safe, keep up with the good work, and have a nice day

    • @justagamersquad2907
      @justagamersquad2907 Год назад +3

      Your comment confuses me I don’t understand the first sentence

    • @Friska_Rexie
      @Friska_Rexie Год назад +2

      @@justagamersquad2907 I think he's saying that despite the trilogy being older, it is still regularly viewed in their family.

    • @PondDoesStuff
      @PondDoesStuff Год назад +1

      OK I can see why you would be on other FNAF or Poppy Playtime videos, BUT in the nicest possible way
      How are you everywhere I go Puppet Master?
      You don't know me but I know you from Razz's channel and it's such a weird but cool coincidence I find you in almost every comments section I go to lmao

    • @GreenSabre187
      @GreenSabre187 Год назад

      @@PondDoesStuff Daddy?

  • @devilord3271
    @devilord3271 Год назад +66

    That bit about Clara reminds me a lot of what happens in Stein's gate at the ends
    Spoilers: after finally fixing the timeline, the MC realizes that not only is his love interest fated to die I'm the original timeline, his past self actually SEES her dead body, but he eventually realizes that her death isn't set in stone, it's him seeing what he thinks is a dead body is what's fated to happen, so he saves her by creating a scenario where his past self thinks he sees a dead body, but she isn't actually dead

    • @slicedbread5568
      @slicedbread5568 11 месяцев назад

      isn't that sort of basically BttF 1's ending

  • @wilkdc
    @wilkdc Год назад +9

    tell me you are a soy boy without telling me you are a soy boy

  • @AlyxCantPlay
    @AlyxCantPlay Год назад +35

    Love anything Back to the future related! Great video Eddie!

  • @Stanty16
    @Stanty16 Год назад +23

    If it was the Clayton Ravine, for Clara having crashed into it, but when doc travelled back and 1955 Doc and Marty found the gravestone reading "His beloved Clara". Doc going back alone must have still saved Clara, right?
    I wonder what the Ravine was called in THAT period, where 1955 Doc and Marty existed in a timeline where Clara had been saved, but Doc died as Marty hadn't travelled back to become "Clint Eastwood"

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood Год назад +5

      Couldn't it just stay Shonash Ravine?

    • @bluechair9172
      @bluechair9172 Год назад +9

      One theory that got brought up somewhere is that Clara was so grief striken by Doc's death that she threw herself off the Ravine. It's a dark explanation but considering how smitten they are with each other and the brutal way Doc died, it is a plausible one.

    • @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075
      @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 Год назад

      i'm so confused now lol

    • @WaterCarrier07
      @WaterCarrier07 Год назад

      That is bloody magic I thought I had this film inside out but I’d never linked that

  • @DankEngine2005
    @DankEngine2005 Год назад +46

    Awesome video. I’m actually studying libertarianism, determinism and compatiblism as part of my A Level RE Ethics class! Quite the surprise seeing my favourite RUclipsr covering it, so I sent it to some of my friends in class for them to have a look at.
    Hope you enjoy your Christmas break!

    • @partymix1997
      @partymix1997 Год назад

      Well what seems more compelling human consciousness (not weather, that uranium that just does stuff whoever ect) or that we have free will (that’s free not like your wants like favourite food and smell ect) or are you just idk I’m neutral (not compatiblist just haven’t decided yet)

    • @quarterofdisorder
      @quarterofdisorder Год назад +1

      Libertarianism doesn’t work when everyone wants to take your rights away

    • @quarterofdisorder
      @quarterofdisorder Год назад +1

      Libertarianism doesn’t work when everyone wants to take your rights away

    • @DankEngine2005
      @DankEngine2005 Год назад +2

      @@partymix1997 I more lean to compatibalism. Actions have consequences I can’t control, but I have choices over what those actions are.

    • @DankEngine2005
      @DankEngine2005 Год назад

      @@Dusty-h6m That’s just called being human. Learning from mistakes is what we do.

  • @therevenger259
    @therevenger259 Год назад +9

    4:17 it was at this moment I decided to stop watching Eddache, for isolating his audience by stereotyping people with certain views as all being "stupid" and "the real problem."

    • @uhh4404
      @uhh4404 Год назад +2

      Agreed, and it was proven that masks weren’t effective in the slightest

    • @therevenger259
      @therevenger259 Год назад +2

      @@uhh4404 It's not just that. I think that trying to portray people who just wanted to get their lives back to normal as "grandma killers" and "science deniers" to make yourself look better is just showing your denial and narcissism. I am not against the vaccine, but I am against unjust laws and mandates.

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      BASED!!!
      Guessing those STILL in masks are STILL "rational and right", despite Government non longer mandating it...

    • @gavindinsmoor8196
      @gavindinsmoor8196 3 месяца назад +2

      Well he's right. That's just the truth. Deal with it. Accept it. Accept that Covid is real!

    • @therevenger259
      @therevenger259 3 месяца назад

      @@gavindinsmoor8196 I never said that Covid was fake.

  • @norbertdx
    @norbertdx Год назад +15

    Can it be said Marty actually started to make multiple timeline changes before pushing George out of the way? First when he crashed at the tree farm, then when he encountered the old couple on the road, at the soda shop, and everyone he came into view before going to the house. Each of these people now have a strange memory of a old guy wearing a vest, looking out of place.

    • @mammutMK2
      @mammutMK2 Год назад +4

      Same with doc. The hover board chase scene in the tunnel. How should he know marty would be ion that exit at exact that moment...or the jump of the roof scene

    • @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075
      @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 Год назад +2

      its like the first life is strange game, every decision, every conversation, no matter how seemingly small or insignificant, has a huge impact, to some extent

  • @dmikewilcox
    @dmikewilcox Год назад +3

    Ya... I have poor eyesight, am watching videos on a phone, and am dyslexic. I thought the title said Vs Free Willy. Somehow I am a little disappointed!

  • @thenewmartianempire4395
    @thenewmartianempire4395 Год назад +8

    I was watching until you started preaching for the cult of Covid...

    • @liambowbrick3917
      @liambowbrick3917 Год назад

      Damn they shunted your comment right down to the bottom.

    • @aronneal
      @aronneal 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah it was good until the mask stuff as a hospital worker during c-19 that shit don’t work
      Lol , but cool video anyway

  • @DC_Prox
    @DC_Prox Год назад +10

    If a movie ever portrayed time travel accurately, it wouldn't be an entertaining time travel movie it would be a tragedy.

  • @StudioUAC
    @StudioUAC Год назад +16

    4:39 masks and staying 6 feet apart didn't do jack for stopping the spread.

    • @Vee_Sheep
      @Vee_Sheep Год назад +5

      gee, i wonder if the video was showing footage of exactly why it was still spreading when there were people that did follow simple health regulations
      it's one of life's great mysteries, truly

    • @MrKeithManiac1
      @MrKeithManiac1 Год назад +12

      @@Vee_Sheep Give him a break: maybe he was escaping lockdowns and social distancing guidelines in order to riot and loot in summer 2020.

    • @UnfairEnforcer
      @UnfairEnforcer Год назад +4

      “But if it saves just one life…”

    • @UnfairEnforcer
      @UnfairEnforcer Год назад +4

      @@Vee_Sheepif only everyone had stayed at home for the next decade, it would have not been a big problem. Can’t believe people are so selfish nowadays

  • @graye2799
    @graye2799 Год назад +5

    4:50 Its not my job to take care of these people. My responsiblites come before them. Its up to them to take care of themselves and to force healthy people to change their way of life for a small group of people is tyrannical.

  • @MrChuckdingo
    @MrChuckdingo Год назад +17

    Came here for a Back to the Future video essay, and instead got a soy-filled Reddit-tier lecture about muh vaccines and muh masks.

    • @unr8ted77
      @unr8ted77 Год назад

      Yeah don't know what he was thinking with that. I think he knows what he said was dumb as fuck though

  • @TheDracoStar
    @TheDracoStar Год назад +8

    Yeah, time travel is one of those really fascinating discussions anyone could have. Like there's a wide variety of ways of going about it.
    Paradox Theory, Multi-Universe theory, The Branching Timeline Theory, the Theories that counter Paradoxes in every conceivable way, etc, etc
    The way I like to go about it is a sort of Multi-universe Theory. There's never one true timeline, only a series of timelines based on decision after decision. Possibility upon possibility. Meaning that no matter what, there's always some sort of universe where things are very much different.
    As an example; a universe where Shrek 3 was actually good. Or a universe where the highest grossing film is The Room of all things.
    And maybe a universe where Ash Ketchum has piloted a mecha at least once. Who knows if that's even possible? And that's why I like Multi-universe theory. Makes things wacky as all hell.
    Besides, if a guy can turn Shaggy into an anime protagonist with Scooby being able to use a gun against motherfucking Yosemite Sam... then I think basically anything is possible at that point.

    • @partymix1997
      @partymix1997 Год назад

      Maybe dam neat idea I guess just the proof I need proof that someone chose to make shaggy an anime protagonist or it was always gonna happen

    • @TheDracoStar
      @TheDracoStar Год назад

      @@partymix1997 Look up Scoob and Shag. It's a webcomic that had what I just described

    • @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075
      @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 Год назад

      yeah, like logically, it doesn't exist, cause if it did, any change we make could undo the creation of said time machine, or our reason for using it, so it can't exist, but theoretically speaking it does exist, and there are multiple timelines and changing anything results in being stuck in a new one while an alternate version of you continues to exist in the previous one

  • @henrylebzelter1873
    @henrylebzelter1873 Год назад +27

    It's always a good day when Eddie uploads, keep up the great work.

    • @Unlimited_Powah
      @Unlimited_Powah Год назад

      Its always a good tomorrow when Eddie Uploaded

  • @James11111
    @James11111 Год назад +3

    What fucks with me the most is how none of these movies (mainly 2 obviously) take place in the future anymore.

  • @stephenr3910
    @stephenr3910 Год назад +3

    You lost me when Back to the Future became about Trump.

    • @oglecountyraptor
      @oglecountyraptor Год назад

      Same here, it’s not like people like us just make a video about Barney the dinosaur and the whole time we complain about Joe Biden and every other looney tune in office

  • @uhh4404
    @uhh4404 Год назад +5

    The mask argument fell flat, since they didn’t work at all. Oof Eddie

    • @oglecountyraptor
      @oglecountyraptor Год назад

      IKR my family wore them and got vaxxed and all got Covid still, and if it’s not gonna actually cure the virus then what is the point.

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      SO MANY missing replies on comments like these calling him out

  • @caiden5855
    @caiden5855 Год назад +3

    What's with the random political stuff

  • @Mastervitro
    @Mastervitro Год назад +4

    There's also the problem of duplication, where a time traveler has to at some point split into two copies in order to meet their past or future self.

  • @americansaxon2101
    @americansaxon2101 Год назад +4

    Edd. I love you bro but you're from the UK. Don't mention US politics in a great trilogy or your videos pls. You are not a US citizen like a good chunk of your viewers. Let us learn our own ways. Only TIME will figure itself out. DUM DUM CHA! Stll LOVE your vids man.

  • @MuttonTheDragon
    @MuttonTheDragon Год назад +2

    Free Will? Heck no, Will Wheaton deserves to be locked away for life!
    I’ll show myself out.

  • @Blundabus1337
    @Blundabus1337 Год назад +2

    I found this channel, wanted to subscribe after a few videos. Was even going to comment on how in back to the future 2, how does old biff return to the future marty and doc are in if he changed it?
    Then 4:40 happened.
    You . . you do realize that the people who made the 'vaccine' has since then admitted that it doesn't prevent transmission, right? You do realize that it was revealed that States with mask mandates fared no better against Covid than those without? Right?
    oi m8 you got a loicense for that misinformation you're spreading?

  • @herbiestarford
    @herbiestarford Год назад +7

    Thank god you chose the BEST version on a Christmas carol.

  • @aukondk
    @aukondk Год назад +5

    The idea of time travel where you might change or erase yourself gives me a lot of anxiety. I can't watch About Time or Butterfly Effect for example. BTTF is the exception but I guess it's because I know it so well I can cope, plus it's a lot of fun.
    My new favourite time travel film is Predestination. It's a perfect knot of continuity and much easier to follow than Primer.

    • @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075
      @professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 Год назад

      yeah that stuff scares me, like when alice almost drinks too much and the doorknob tells her she almost blew out like a candle, always distubed me. you ever watch the movie Curvature? you might like it

  • @hypnotistraywilliams
    @hypnotistraywilliams Год назад +2

    Your videos are good, but lay off politics. You're turing off 50% of possible viewing and sending them away.

  • @CrunchyMotorsport
    @CrunchyMotorsport Год назад +5

    I am shocked Star Trek doesn't show up often

  • @Kirs..
    @Kirs.. Год назад +12

    The mask comparison wasn’t a very good one honestly. It makes this video less gripping and way less long lasting.

  • @Eldrisaur
    @Eldrisaur Год назад +3

    “Down to the Atom. Which as we know, is the sperm of science.”

  • @oglecountyraptor
    @oglecountyraptor Год назад +3

    Orange man bad waaaaaaaaaaaaah

    • @pupulauls
      @pupulauls Год назад +1

      😐

    • @oglecountyraptor
      @oglecountyraptor Год назад

      @@pupulauls Donald Trump hasn’t been president for awhile now, y’all need to stop crying about it.

  • @bplionel2
    @bplionel2 Год назад +3

    I watch BttF to escape from the trouble of the virus.

  • @timothyt.82
    @timothyt.82 Год назад +2

    5:15
    To answer your question, yes, everyone still has free will in the movie. Just because someone's free will screws with the timeline, doesn't mean that everyone else is a slave to the consequences. The future plays out based on the choices everyone made.
    Marty bought a book from the future, Biff stole the book, Marty's mom married Biff out of desperation, and Doc Brown still chose to have a weird haircut.

  • @teddyfurstman1997
    @teddyfurstman1997 Год назад +10

    Eddie on BTTF is awesome!

  • @ryansinbela6396
    @ryansinbela6396 Год назад +4

    1:03 I think the game Super Daryl Deluxe actually has Scrooge become a Ghostbuster

  • @clouddd8053
    @clouddd8053 Год назад +3

    I thought this was gonna be a movie comparison bc my dumbass read the title as Free Willy- y'know the whale movie 🗿

  • @domomitsune5920
    @domomitsune5920 Год назад +1

    I don't think Marty had a choice in the matter, if he did nothing Doc is dead by the terrorists, forcing him to go back in time to try to stop the event from happening, grading all three movies in the process. And by intervening in the first movie he gets stuck in the past resorting and him having to go to the distant past to save the doc from being killed in the old west. I think everything was predestined including Doc Brown inventing the flux capacitor, creating the entire movie plot moving forward. There is no free will in this movie, all the actions are predetermined and everyone's just playing the role as the actors who participated in the filling process.

  • @hobbestiger123thetankengin7
    @hobbestiger123thetankengin7 Год назад +5

    Finally something from Eddie with back to The future. Nice video eddie

  • @wookieafro6920
    @wookieafro6920 Год назад +3

    I like how he called the infinity stones chaos emeralds 1:09

  • @brendano7948
    @brendano7948 Год назад +2

    Just talk about the movie no need to
    Include your political options.

  • @scragar
    @scragar Год назад +1

    Laplace is French so it's pronounced /ləˈplɑːs/ (if you can't read IPA think "La Plass").

  • @r3mdh
    @r3mdh Год назад +1

    You had me drawn in until it became a Covid lecture. Then I wrote this, and moved on. No sub for you.

  • @joshuanoles
    @joshuanoles Год назад +3

    I would take out the part about masks as the science now admits masks did nothing to stop the spread which was the whole reason for the resistance but instead people were blamed for a virus that wasn't going to be stopped in the first place

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      No change as of yet...
      He probably still wears a mask to maintain his egotistical position of "more rational than you"...

  • @miigi-p4939
    @miigi-p4939 Год назад +1

    Okay so as weird as this sound
    There is a guy furry visual novel called adastra where this exact thing happens
    Except you aren't marty
    You have no free will and discovering that on a supposed romance sim is so scary

  • @sebswede9005
    @sebswede9005 Год назад +2

    Me: *Travels back to 1990 at the set of BTTF part 3*
    Also me: "Hey, kid! Stop pointing at your junk!"

  • @mr.whimsic6902
    @mr.whimsic6902 Год назад +4

    Imagine if there were a BTTF IV that revealed to Doc Brown that he understood the rules of time travel all wrong, thus explaining the free will with time travel

    • @partymix1997
      @partymix1997 Год назад

      You (what ever is controlling your will) wants you to not believe you have free will
      But look at all the benefits
      You can’t be judge ever because you can’t control your will if you can’t control your wants
      Everyone would see prisoners as the same as us they were just unlucky
      Now every time you fail it’s a luck issue not a skill issue
      There is only 2 drawback with multiple consequences:
      it’s proven we already don’t have free will kinda just humans though not the universe
      No decision is ever yours because you don’t have free will
      No free will is free as the crisis your having right now gl

    • @EnerKaizer
      @EnerKaizer Год назад +1

      There is. The telltale game is technically BTTF 4. It takes place a year after the events of the third film and expands on Doc Backstory.

  • @HiperPivociarz
    @HiperPivociarz Год назад +2

    I think you are confusing terminology here. It's not time travel that takes away Loraine and George's free will, it's Marty! If anything, the fact that they don't go out after Marty changed the circumstances implies that they HAVE free will. If Marty was born regardless if his parents met this way or not, that would imply they have no free will and are destined to marry no matter how much you change their first meeting.

  • @Jasonwolf1495
    @Jasonwolf1495 Год назад +4

    Yeah I feel like the we missed the major idea of branching timelines. Also personally I see it as what I like to call "the corkscrew timeline" where you appear to be heading back in time but its still actually linear for the person time traveling, so marty will only ever experience a timeline that he's in and thus the events technically are closer to happening a second time rather than changing the past. Think of a "do-over" where the first attempt doesnt stop existing, but we count the second tiem.

  • @Croftice1
    @Croftice1 Год назад +1

    "That's not true! We've just seen a whole movie about future!" Well we've seen a whole movie about a future, that is non-existent, because Marty and Doc Brown changed it. So yea. You can't count the second movie's events as written into stone, because the future was changed. That's totally wrong logic there. Your counter argument about Doc Brown's statement, that the future hasn't been written yet, uses wrong data. Old data from the previous movie. Because of what Marty did (or respectively didn't) changed, what his future would be about, what would lead to what we have seen in the 2nd movie. That accident, that Marty had (or again, hadn't) at the crossroad, was a huge influence for his future in the previous part of the trilogy. So again, you operate with wrong data. That future we just saw, doesn't exist anymore at the end of BttF3, when Doc Brown tells them, that their future hasn't been written yet.
    Regarding the Avengers: Endgame, that's a completely different time travel (they even joke about BttF) with their own rules. They travel through the Quantum Realm, which is more akin to different realities, than actually traveling back in time. Think of it as going to the past is like going to another separate reality very close to ours, almost identical, but everything they change there, will stay there, won't affect the main "timeline", they are going to return to eventually. Loki escaping with the Tesseract in "2012" won't undo Loki's death at the hands of Thanos in 2018. This Loki, as the Disney + show of the same name shows, is a variant of Loki, it's not the original, who ended up being killed by Thanos. Same goes for 2014 Thanos, 2014 Gamora and 2014 Nebula. Tony snapping 2014 Thanos out of existence didn't undo the original snap, because that would be the logical outcome, if you kill Thanos in 2014, he can't do his snap in 2018! But that wasn't the case. 2014 Thanos is a Thanos variant, same as D+ Loki, same as 2014 Nebula, who got killed by her "future" self. This time travel (or as I call it more "reality travel") is why they only borrow the stones, they don't change anything even to make their lives better after return, as all the changes would stay there and wouldn't affect their own reality. Also the reason, why Steve had to return all the stones (and the hammah) is not to fix the main timeline, it's to fix those others, they lend the stones from. They left them vulnerable, but honestly, what would happen, if the Avengers kept the stones? Nothing, they would doom some "branches" on the "Sacred Timeline", that nobody cares about. Except they are the heroes, so they have to do the right thing.
    Honestly I think Christmas Carol (or Muppets Carol) is kinda same deal like the Avengers, meaning different kind of time travel, different rules, though I'm not familiar with that, so might be wrong here.
    Terminator is about predestination, not a flexible time travel, like BttF, so there's that.

  • @sharp640SR
    @sharp640SR Год назад +1

    Oh cool. You added tou political opinions to entertainment and now I dint qanna watch it. Enjoy your boosters for the cold.

  • @sumeracarnatia6997
    @sumeracarnatia6997 Год назад +2

    Regarding Wilson and Chuck Berry’s song, I personally interpret that those two happened on their own without Marty’s influence and when he went to the past, he simply sped up when they first took action by inspiring them.

  • @مطبخماماحبيبتي
    @مطبخماماحبيبتي Год назад +1

    Big like great work keep it up l hope we always communicate 🎁👈👉🛎🤲🌺🌲👍👈👉🌷🌹🌹👉👍

  • @GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartz
    @GnohmPolaeon.B.OniShartz 2 месяца назад +1

    The masks did nothing. We know this now. I try so hard to ignore your ham fisted political insights but you stick them into every video whether it's relevant or not.

  • @joecociuba4722
    @joecociuba4722 Год назад +1

    You lost my view and sub when you started pushing your opinion on the COVID bs as if you're right and everyone that refused to conform and obey is wrong, rallying for the corrupt ones trying to gain complete control of us.

  • @hectornonayurbusiness2631
    @hectornonayurbusiness2631 Год назад +7

    Oof, this mask thing will not age well

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      BRO!!!
      Those "rational selfless people" are STILL in masks!!!
      If you're only considerate of others BECAUSE "govt mandate", there's something very wrong with you

  • @SirRadington
    @SirRadington Год назад +4

    me: oh boy! a new eddache video. finally something that can distract from all the annoying as hell political bullshit that's been going on
    4 minutes and 30 seconds into the video: annoying as hell political bullshit, front and center. yay.
    why do i even bother with youtube at this point.

  • @pontustve1thegoldendragon483
    @pontustve1thegoldendragon483 Год назад +1

    90% of the time i walkt into the stor pp did not were a mask but still we stod 2 meters away and we are still here soooooo. Politic bullcrap from youtubers. Im from sweden so my english suck

  • @AiluridaeAureus
    @AiluridaeAureus Год назад +2

    Oh lovely. Ignorant generalizations of a broad political movement, in my video discussing the fucking movie Back to the Future...

  • @beauthaven6280
    @beauthaven6280 Год назад +4

    Even though he time travel gets a bit muddy compared to others in the same genre’s. The movie still is a good piece of filmmaking. Good acting, great soundtrack, great visuals, good storytelling, etc
    Now they even have a musical coming to broadway next year. I’d say pretty good if you ask me

  • @manoftheusajones5147
    @manoftheusajones5147 Год назад +103

    Do Disney's Amphibia next.

    • @Rajclaw
      @Rajclaw Год назад +19

      What do you want him to talk about in relation to Amphibia?
      What about the show?
      The characters?
      The plot?
      The ending?

    • @-callmecrazy-5859
      @-callmecrazy-5859 Год назад +6

      *please

    • @zaiden2becausejustzaidenisused
      @zaiden2becausejustzaidenisused Год назад +6

      i dont think eddie does suggestions

    • @Ratman.Not.Batman
      @Ratman.Not.Batman Год назад +4

      um what?

    • @bjp4869
      @bjp4869 Год назад +7

      I mean, I'm all for a video about Amphibia, but like... He's gotta actually have a topic to talk about.

  • @cortinastone
    @cortinastone Год назад +1

    I feel like bttf 3 was just made to fix the very weird tone bttf 2 had. (which still somehow got a pg rating)

  • @sandline793
    @sandline793 Месяц назад +1

    Its disappointing when politics gets brought up in what was supposed to be an entertaining back to the future video

  • @slackerdc
    @slackerdc Год назад +1

    I get where Crispin is coming from but I maintain that George and Loraine are happier in good 1985 not because they have more money but because George is a more confident person in general and has been able to give Loraine a better more loving relationship and the financial success is a by product of that not the cause.

  • @alexsalamander4251
    @alexsalamander4251 Год назад +1

    wHaT's NeXt, NeEdInG a LiCeNsE tO mAkE tOaSt In mY OwN dAmN tOaStEr!?!?

  • @logannottheonefrommarvel9917
    @logannottheonefrommarvel9917 Год назад +3

    So is there a timeline where Eric Stoltz was Marty McFly all the way through the first movie's production?

    • @nicooxxdnunez7789
      @nicooxxdnunez7789 2 месяца назад

      Actually yes! There's a comic abt alternate timelines where Eric Stoltz appears as Marty once (if i dont remember wrong, i should check if im right)

  • @CallMeMrRook
    @CallMeMrRook Год назад +9

    Huh, i was enjoying the content right up to the mention of "the mysterious virus"

    • @awkwardsilence4427
      @awkwardsilence4427 Год назад +8

      Same, especially when he started strawmanning certain positions…

    • @Mikhail-Tkachenko
      @Mikhail-Tkachenko Год назад +5

      Same, can't believe people still buy into the CNN narrative. Guy is definitely not too bright.

    • @awkwardsilence4427
      @awkwardsilence4427 Год назад +2

      @@Mikhail-Tkachenko
      Just so you know, your reply was shadowbanned. I can see it in my notifications, but not under the actual comment itself.

    • @CallMeMrRook
      @CallMeMrRook Год назад +1

      @@Mikhail-Tkachenko i too can only see your comment in notifications

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад +1

      ​@CallMeMrRook
      What are great time to be alive!!!
      Spoken ill of
      Speak in defence of self
      Further silenced

  • @ZaydenEdits5482
    @ZaydenEdits5482 Год назад +1

    Make a video about why villains have British accents

  • @rysonic618
    @rysonic618 Год назад +2

    Well when old biff gave his younger self the sports almanac they vanished from time but there younger self still got the book crating a type of bootstrap paradox so if Marty failed to get there parents back together that would have happened to him as well giving free will in the first movie and could of failed and vanished it just happened to work out for him

  • @Drekal684
    @Drekal684 Год назад +1

    "Deceive yourself. Deceive the world.
    El psy kongroo."
    If you've not already, check out Steins;Gate. The beginning is a bit rough, but the second half is *sublime*.

  • @nerd9347.
    @nerd9347. Год назад +2

    A1. Burns for days,
    B2. Valid arguments,
    C3. “Time” is an illusion we create for ourselves in a state of perceived separation.

  • @detectivepancakes3095
    @detectivepancakes3095 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'm not a very philosophical person but I always viewed the idea that we don't have free will and the future is predetermined but by us not knowing out futures, it gives us the illusion of free will, and honestly, when you feel you have it, who cares if you actually do or not

  • @LUCKO2022
    @LUCKO2022 Год назад +2

    There is no alternate timelines. It is one singluar timeline that keeps changing as it corrects itself.

    • @nicooxxdnunez7789
      @nicooxxdnunez7789 2 месяца назад +2

      Actually, in bttf2 they say that alternate timelines get created

  • @demontamerbf18
    @demontamerbf18 Год назад +2

    Back to the Future (The first movie) it's my favorite movie of all time, I had never stopped to think about the implications of time travel when it comes to free will, this was a completely new topic for me to think about and I enjoyed it a lot.

  • @GinoZump
    @GinoZump Год назад +2

    06:36 I'm happy there are still some PicnicFace fans out there

  • @christopherbrentbrown8840
    @christopherbrentbrown8840 Год назад +1

    The biggest problem with the time travelling consistency occurs in part II. Old Biff steals the time machine in 2015, goes back to 1955 gives himself the book then returns to 2015 for doc and Marty to have the time machine to travel back to the “alternate 1985”. This should be impossible, once Biff give himself the book, old Biff should have went back to the 2015 reality spawned from that point, basically it should be the same 2015 alternative reality as the alternative 1985. Doc even explained this in the movie when Marty said “ok, so we go back to the future and stop Biff from stealing the DeLoran” where Doc says “ we can’t because if we travel to the future from this point and time it will be the future of this reality.” That rule should have applied to old Biff when he changed the past in 1955. It’s a gaping plot hole in the series.
    In another neat fact, in Part II when everyone is back in 1955 ( part 1 Marty, Part II Marty, doc and old Biff) there are at least 3 DeLoreans there, and conceivably 4 if we are to believe there is a pre-destination paradox at play.
    1. Part 1 Marty’s DeLorean
    2. Part 2 Marty and Doc’s DeLorean
    3. Old Biffs stolen DeLorean
    4. The DeLorean buried in the mine for Part III if it’s already there due to a pre-destination paradox.
    It’s interesting to think about. 🤔

  • @Taydar
    @Taydar Год назад +2

    Time travel hurts your head to think about it

  • @doodle_guard
    @doodle_guard Год назад +2

    Laplace demon, like the song Laplace ang... Oooooh... That makes sense now...

  • @mrpopsful
    @mrpopsful Год назад +1

    "So, do you know what I'm gonna do before I do it?"
    "Yes"
    "What if I do something different?"
    "Then I don't know that"
    - Bender talking to God

  • @davidgold5961
    @davidgold5961 Год назад +1

    Look up Andrew Basiago. He has a lot of good input about the concept of time travel and free will.

  • @rrwholloway
    @rrwholloway Год назад +7

    I don’t think using masks is as good an analogy as you think.

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      Glad it's not just me.... ESPECIALLY as many of these "rational" people are STILL wearing masks...

  • @jawmuncher
    @jawmuncher Год назад +1

    Please tell me I wasn't the only one who clicked this video thinking it was "Back to the Future vs. Free Willy"

  • @KiiXii
    @KiiXii Год назад +1

    It’s not free will because it will happen, but, you want it to happen and you are making it happen.

  • @MarshalArnold
    @MarshalArnold Год назад +1

    Great, get lectured about masks from a show about something completely unrelated. 👌 ace bud, total ace, slip that propaganda in 👏!

    • @AllThatIsMortal
      @AllThatIsMortal Год назад

      how is it propaganda?

    • @AllThatIsMortal
      @AllThatIsMortal Год назад +1

      and like wdym completely unrelatedly he used it to contrast it with some things in the movie he was talking about since they were similar?

    • @MarshalArnold
      @MarshalArnold Год назад

      @I take everything Literally in no way does someone's choice not to mask up take away someone else's free will away. It's total bs. Has nothing to do with BTF, or free will, other than the choice itself. 2nd, it's propaganda because the masks do not stop the spread, is false info. Unless folks are all wearing masks rated to actually stop particulates as small as a virus, which most do not and even state that in the tiny print on the box. Again, total bs.

    • @unr8ted77
      @unr8ted77 Год назад +1

      They just can't help themselves. They always have to shove their agendas down your throat and they'll find a way to insert it into anything

    • @oglecountyraptor
      @oglecountyraptor Год назад

      @@AllThatIsMortal”wear a mask or we’ll put you in jail”

  • @spartan_warrior5927
    @spartan_warrior5927 Год назад +4

    Change the title of ur vid.
    (Pushing and political agenda)

  • @twilliamspro
    @twilliamspro Год назад +2

    The Chuck Berry thing is a bootstrap paradox

    • @Mate_Antal_Zoltan
      @Mate_Antal_Zoltan Год назад

      without Googling what that is, I assume it's related to the saying "Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps"
      as in, if Marty is responsible for the song existing, then there's no way he should have heard it before he changed the past, therefore he couldn't have sang it?
      that or he wrote it himself before the loop began

  • @TnT_F0X
    @TnT_F0X Год назад +1

    In Hindsight, free will looks like destiny.

  • @graye2799
    @graye2799 Год назад +1

    The mear fact that marty can change the future by altering the past shows free will exists. If it was all deterministic, marty wouldnt be at risk of becoming erased because him succeding was pre determined. Martys parents also werent forced together by the universe, but by martys actions. They still had the will to say no. Deteminism in the physics sense also falls apart when quantam mechanics is taken into account (at least with what we know so far).

  • @lordnobody2210
    @lordnobody2210 Год назад +9

    Very bizarre stance to be pro lockdown after our lockdowns failed to do anything

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад +1

      When you can't admit you were wrong, so double down... even after government lifted the very mandates you venerate

  • @Neyebureturns
    @Neyebureturns Год назад +1

    Wasn't expecting this to Talk about anti masks.
    If you want another movie about free will and time travel, I recommend you "Los Cronocrimenes"

    • @darrengordon-hill
      @darrengordon-hill Год назад

      Are the people STILL in masks STILL "rational and right"??

  • @strawhat9023
    @strawhat9023 Год назад +1

    4:48 small picture thinking keeps you in a box

  • @Sapphaura
    @Sapphaura Год назад +2

    Weirdly enough, this makes me curious about my own future if I don't do anything to supposedly change it, whatever it may end up being.

  • @ThatTopHatDud
    @ThatTopHatDud Год назад +1

    Hey Eddy
    You should do a video about the history of PSA or PIF were you live I sounds like a good idea

  • @edgyusername4191
    @edgyusername4191 Год назад +1

    "I cannot pray for their safety, but I will pray that they are sleeping slaves... and when they wake, that these sleeping slaves shall fulfill some purpose."
    JJBA Golden Wind