The real joke is that the files which are "Tsundere" images are actually acting as a "Tsundere" in the file transfer. Not that i said that to explain to any of you guys. Baka!
10 years later and I've become a software engineer and know why it does that. It calculates time remaining based on elapsed time and average transfer rate for the last few seconds. The trouble is that, for a single, large file the transfer rate is fast, because the data is all in the same place in the disk, but as soon as there are lots of small files all over the place, the drive head has to seek around for the data which is slower. In other words, the transfer rate fluctuates with the size of files because of seeking. Worse if the drive has not been defragmented.
You're mixing it with fragmentation. The effect comes from the filesystem overhead: you have to do the same core amount of work to copy metadata of any file, no matter large or small. You could have a lot of small files either placed next to each other to remove seeking, or just use an SSD and this effect would still persist.
thanks god SSD's cant be fragmented. but still different compression types and file types can result in different copy times. But even that doesnt matter if your SSD's read/write speed is 7Gb per second :3
And the reason is simple: The time is only an estimate. First Windows just estimates by the number of files it has to copy how long it will take. Then after some time it sees how big the files are - and the smaller the files, the longer the copying takes, because copying a huge file only means shuffling data from one harddrive to the RAM and then to the other harddrive. Or on the same harddrive only changing the directory position in the MFT. But when you have many small files, Windows has to do with every file this rewriting of the MFT or, if you copy to another hard drive, it has to read the MFT, write the MFT on the other harddrive, read the data of the file, copy it and then check file consistancy. When you have 1 GB of small files that takes long - when you have 10 GB of big files, it's faster, because the data copying time is the fastest portion of the copying, the MFT writing the slowest (as long as your harddrive is not mostly full and the computer needs to find the last empty spots somewhere)
@@acmenipponair What does MFT stand for? And are files really going through your RAM? I've moved 30 GB files but only have 8 GB RAM. Or does your OS split them in small portions anyway?
Well yea, if you are trying to move a folder and there is a big difference in the Size of the Archives, it will do this shit ( but now they can calculate the speed by comparing the size and the actual speed of the HD )
For those who do not know which seems to be a lot of people, Windows NT before 8.1 came out, the File Explorer would calculate time based on its current operations, it was very accurate at calculating remaining time for transferring single large file, problem occurred when it had to transfer lots of smaller files in various sizes.
> 30 seconds remaining at 5MB/s _”Uh oh! A new Windows service pack has just been released. I’d better download and install it while the user is doing a file transfer!”_ > 1 hour remaining at 2KB/s
It's basically the lives of four high school girls, each complete with their own unique personalities. Konata is your hardcore gamer and otaku, athletic and smart (though she doesn't seem like it), Kagami is the Tsundere of the group, Tsukasa is the one who TRIES to study but can never seem to do so, as well as one of the cute blunderheads of the group, and Miyuki is the klutzy airhead, smart but prone to accidents. ;w;
My job has some industry specific application to handle inventory. Transferring bolts yanks the processor to its knees every time. Why? It doesn't move 12k bolts at once. It counts every single one of them.
@@realcartoongirl ok (I didn't even received the notifications lol the video was just in recommendation for no reason and I looked through comments and found it , RUclips should really allow older replies to give notifications)
Thats literally how any and every GUI Operating System works captain obvious. Aint gonna find none of that nonsense on MS-DOS 6.22 however. POWER. CONTROL. *Sip* Now thats an Operating System.
The reason Windows XP and for that matter Vista and 7 transfer times seemed to go up and down all the time was because it calculated remaining time based on its current operation, if it was moving just one large file it would be very accurate in estimating remaining time the issue occurs when it starts calculating large amount of smaller files in various sizes.
Oh my god so fucking true. Anyone who’s used windows XP will remember the horror that was file transfers. At least the animation was cool, as Windows 7 doesn’t have that.
You're right, sir. dangodaikazoku0312 wrote out the names of folders, and said that these names are just like Konata. In English, these names are: Ahoge(cowlick), elf, sister, twin-tail, tsundere ponytail, maid, yandere, cat ears, miko(shrine maiden).
Well that counter shows how much time will it take to complete operation at current speed. Total remaining time is impossible to predict because as you see it can change. Its not a windows issue, its consumer getting confused what that thing shows.
Friki... you didn't need to brag. Also, some people prefer to let their computers off for the night, it extends the computer's life, saves energy, etc.
This is just great. No rip-off brands. Just a straight friggin Windows XP appearance in the anime.
Lucky Star is badass.
they really have ball to do that
If it was a Linux distribution things would be better
@@flamestoyershadowkill What he said
@@flamestoyershadowkill Probably ReactOS (considering that she games a lot)
Ahh windows XP days
I said the XP DAYS not XP itself celebi... Remember the flash games, windows movie maker, and poorly built websites. The XP days...
What are you...
Sellin?
Those were the days when you can make tea by the time computer completely boots up.
@@anirudhsukigakirei9397 you just have to comment in a comment with no reply for 1 year huh
Ah, the XP blue screen of death I used to get at least 5 times a day. Good times.
The progress bar is moving but the remaining time is going up! - Every XP User ever.
Me, for over 5 years.
“Windows time” as we called it.
That's me updating a game on Steam the other day
this also happens on windows 10 with MTP when copying to phone. It says 3 hours but is done in 3 minutes
I get this. Used XP in my childhood. XP and 7 are the best Windows OS
The real joke is that the files which are "Tsundere" images are actually acting as a "Tsundere" in the file transfer. Not that i said that to explain to any of you guys. Baka!
I see what you did there.
ಠ_ಠ
You went there, you really went there...
Lumin0us7 XDXD if I wasn't an otaku il never understand this Joke XDXD
Lumin0us7 thanks I didn't pick up on that I just got done with the show
U///w///U
10 years later and I've become a software engineer and know why it does that. It calculates time remaining based on elapsed time and average transfer rate for the last few seconds. The trouble is that, for a single, large file the transfer rate is fast, because the data is all in the same place in the disk, but as soon as there are lots of small files all over the place, the drive head has to seek around for the data which is slower. In other words, the transfer rate fluctuates with the size of files because of seeking. Worse if the drive has not been defragmented.
Thank you Speed wagon!
You're mixing it with fragmentation.
The effect comes from the filesystem overhead: you have to do the same core amount of work to copy metadata of any file, no matter large or small. You could have a lot of small files either placed next to each other to remove seeking, or just use an SSD and this effect would still persist.
thanks god SSD's cant be fragmented. but still different compression types and file types can result in different copy times. But even that doesnt matter if your SSD's read/write speed is 7Gb per second :3
then why doesn't it do it on Linux
true. but the whole joke is it's unreliable BECAUSE it's accurate. which is ironic.
I love when Windows XP says it’ll take 1 week just to copy a folder just to go down minutes later to 10 minutes
"I'm a business man, it's negotiable"
Do you use it still?
@@shinji5217 Well I mean Windows XP was heavily advertised as being best for business
hahaha
it still does that on windows 10 lmao
Even after 14 years this still happens...
We'll never gets enough of it.
And the reason is simple: The time is only an estimate. First Windows just estimates by the number of files it has to copy how long it will take. Then after some time it sees how big the files are - and the smaller the files, the longer the copying takes, because copying a huge file only means shuffling data from one harddrive to the RAM and then to the other harddrive. Or on the same harddrive only changing the directory position in the MFT.
But when you have many small files, Windows has to do with every file this rewriting of the MFT or, if you copy to another hard drive, it has to read the MFT, write the MFT on the other harddrive, read the data of the file, copy it and then check file consistancy. When you have 1 GB of small files that takes long - when you have 10 GB of big files, it's faster, because the data copying time is the fastest portion of the copying, the MFT writing the slowest (as long as your harddrive is not mostly full and the computer needs to find the last empty spots somewhere)
Just stop looking at the time, it doesnt really reflect how long the file transfer will last.
@@acmenipponair What does MFT stand for? And are files really going through your RAM? I've moved 30 GB files but only have 8 GB RAM. Or does your OS split them in small portions anyway?
Use an ssd scrub
*sniffs*
oooh, this smells like the 2000s...
*sheds a tear*
The 2000's were such a beautiful time
Do yall know that 2040 is closer than 2000 now :D
its just 2 decades bruh
@@deadpianist7494 *_*j u s t*_*
i like it how its been over 15 years since lucky star has come out, and this exact thing is STILL happening
Well yea, if you are trying to move a folder and there is a big difference in the Size of the Archives, it will do this shit ( but now they can calculate the speed by comparing the size and the actual speed of the HD )
Use SSD
transfer time act like tsundere
yep
Moving 'Tsundere' to 'Images'.
...Now we know where she keeps her pictures of Kagami...
This is awesome. I love Lucky Star's references to real life and other anime/manga series!
100th like
Hello real first
You are capable to be the first one good job
It’s really interesting how 13 years ago a comment like this would be serious and honest but nowadays it reads ironic.
Only we old people understand the pain of a file transfer taking 75 years.
SSD zoomers are pure cringe
For those who do not know which seems to be a lot of people, Windows NT before 8.1 came out, the File Explorer would calculate time based on its current operations, it was very accurate at calculating remaining time for transferring single large file, problem occurred when it had to transfer lots of smaller files in various sizes.
I wish I could live in a reality where windows XP just keeps getting updated forever.
Her desktop wallpaper is the S.O.S. Brigade club room from the Haruhi Suzumiya series, specifically the shot with Haruhi sitting on top of the desk.
wow its amazing to see this stuff immortalized in anime
Progress bar acting like a tsundere probably be like: stop staring at me so hard! It’s not like I’m too quick to load it in. baka!
Or
"It's not like I'm loading this quick for you. Don't get the wrong idea! Baka!"
> 30 seconds remaining at 5MB/s
_”Uh oh! A new Windows service pack has just been released. I’d better download and install it while the user is doing a file transfer!”_
> 1 hour remaining at 2KB/s
Man, this is a hell of a throwback.
"Tsundere", it was probably full of images of Kagami.
DDS pfp very based
Good ol Windows XP soo nostalgic
me when i download stuff from the internet archive:
Some things never change
Copying from "Tsundere" to "Images"... wat
I want to see what's in her E:\Images folder.
Some things are best left unseen...
"Tsundere" folder.
Bet it's all candid photos of Kagami.
It's basically the lives of four high school girls, each complete with their own unique personalities. Konata is your hardcore gamer and otaku, athletic and smart (though she doesn't seem like it), Kagami is the Tsundere of the group, Tsukasa is the one who TRIES to study but can never seem to do so, as well as one of the cute blunderheads of the group, and Miyuki is the klutzy airhead, smart but prone to accidents. ;w;
Ah the good old days when transferring files took noticeable time
HDD drivers back then
But that windows XP default game was still a legend
Ahh, the days when my internet was as slow as a turtle....
This is so nostalgic
"Feb 11, 2010"
What the frick
How fast technique has grown since 2007 .
0:01 Left window: ahoge, elf, sister, twintail, tsundere, ponytail, maid, yandere, nekomimi, princess.
Right window: music, images, game, video, misc.
I've come to discover that having a gigabyte of a million small files takes longer to transfer than one gigabyte big file.
This guy gets it.
My job has some industry specific application to handle inventory. Transferring bolts yanks the processor to its knees every time. Why? It doesn't move 12k bolts at once. It counts every single one of them.
Story of my life.
I always think that whenever I'm transferring files and saving stuff.
still alive?
bro you there 💀
Take me home to 2007/8
XP days were the best days of my life.
I won't call the days itself good, but I really liked that Windows way more than 7 and infinitely more than 10.
And then the Imposter killed her.
here comes childhood
most relatable anime scene ever
"Tsundere" folder is full of lewd Kagami fanart
The machine we all know and love...
The Windows XP
Windows XP
A generation of Processing in which "remaining time" increases cuz it spent some of its capacity on calculating and displaying that data
No
@@realcartoongirl ok
(I didn't even received the notifications lol the video was just in recommendation for no reason and I looked through comments and found it , RUclips should really allow older replies to give notifications)
Thats literally how any and every GUI Operating System works captain obvious. Aint gonna find none of that nonsense on MS-DOS 6.22 however. POWER. CONTROL. *Sip* Now thats an Operating System.
The reason Windows XP and for that matter Vista and 7 transfer times seemed to go up and down all the time was because it calculated remaining time based on its current operation, if it was moving just one large file it would be very accurate in estimating remaining time the issue occurs when it starts calculating large amount of smaller files in various sizes.
steam updates in a nutshell
The truth here is unsurpassed.
My beloved Windows XP
Good lord I miss XP ;_;
ruclips.net/video/26OQONzwHF0/видео.html
When I was little I always thought of this when I was transferring my files 😭
Every man have that mysterious folder weighting some gigabits.
Story of my life.
This is insane though the accuracy of the desktop. Imagine seeing windows 10/11 in anime today
Konata, one of the Founders of RUclips
man, time to rewatch Lucky Star
This is the video where Windows and Lucky star fans unite 💝💝✊
Konata + Windows XP = average 2000s-2010s memes on RUclips at that time 😂
And yes guys, that's basically the utter excitement you got from Lucky Star...
Anyone else watching this while waiting for something else on the computer to download? 😅
has any video EVER had a more true subject than this?
throneofthorns the answer to that is... NO. :)
Windows XP... What a time to be alive.
boss : "When it'll be finished?"
me : "by the end of the day"
by the end of the day : "it's actually need a week of work hour".
Man, Windows XP was the best. I miss the simpler times...
2017 konata
~ D:images/dank memes
Memes are life!
history of my life
This is awesome. XP is my childhood
Some say it's still transferring to this very day
Konata's got a varied collection it seems... "Ponytail", "Maid", "Twintail", "Yandere", "Elf", "Sister"...
oof that 2007s operating system... right in the nostalgia
She's not a tsundere, she's a kuudere...
A rare sight to see the uploader replying to comments after 3+ years
Reminds me of certain "free" downloads where the timer says 20 minutes and you actually have to wait 2 hours...
Tsundere? Konata has alot of Kagami pics
Oh my god so fucking true. Anyone who’s used windows XP will remember the horror that was file transfers. At least the animation was cool, as Windows 7 doesn’t have that.
I love how it says 2 hours in the beginning even though it's just a ton of .jpg's.
+TheAudiTree It's only based on current speed. It doesn't care about size if it's going... sooooo... sllllooooowwwww
Lucky Star + Windows XP = 2000s
ALL HAIL HYBRID DRIVES AND SSDS!!!
#SSDMasterRace
+CirnoBaka HD
Who the fuck uses ramdisk nowadays.
+D13H4RD2L1V3 #SSDMasterRace
#OptaneMasterRace
What concerned me more is the file she's transfering
Is this the peak of anime when I was 9
So awesome.
if only she was in 2014
naah.. more like 2018
You mean 2021?
2019 ?
It's because you are looking at it Konata. Try looking away. It works sometimes.
All that porn lol xD
Racoon Ranger en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundere
All that Kagami porn
Don't think everyone is corrupted just because you are.
English and Proud honestly. yeah.
The loading bar is moving but the time remaining is going up!
This anime is so 2000's
2008 is more accurate
This is your daily dose of Recommendation
File transfer time estimation be like
このXPのGUIよｗ
今の子は知らんだろうけど…
家のパソコンはウインドーズ7なのでもっと遅い❗来年にサポートが終わってしまうのでウインドーズ10にやっと変えようと考え中❗
7てXPの後ちゃうっけ
@@ゆゆうたすこ デジカメで撮ったやつを再構築してるので重たいんです❗
ゆゆうたすこ
XP→Vista→7の順やね
@@木村康幸-z5w XPより遅い7ってどういうこっちゃ・・・
ファイル転送速度はOSよりハードのスペックのが重要だと思うんだけど。
It's basically a collection of skits about nerdy things It's pretty funny imho.
This video feel like time travelling
pre-ssd age sure was tough.
You're right, sir. dangodaikazoku0312 wrote out the names of folders, and said that these names are just like Konata.
In English, these names are:
Ahoge(cowlick), elf, sister, twin-tail, tsundere
ponytail, maid, yandere, cat ears, miko(shrine maiden).
Laughs in SSD, I don’t even look at the estimated time
Well that counter shows how much time will it take to complete operation at current speed. Total remaining time is impossible to predict because as you see it can change. Its not a windows issue, its consumer getting confused what that thing shows.
Friki... you didn't need to brag.
Also, some people prefer to let their computers off for the night, it extends the computer's life, saves energy, etc.
The man responsible for this progress bar has apologised for it.
Slice of Life comedies get little notice... No boobs, fanservice (usually), or plot is widely ignored in the anime community. Its what killed them
I only just realised Konata's VA also voices Migi in Parasyte
HAPPENS TO ME TOO, KONATA :((
😂 The file transfer is a tsundere too.
I was there Gandalf 3000 years ago
Konata's expressions if Windows Vista is installed on her PC :P
Every progress bar ever being like
File transferring in a nutshell.