Nux Watches JaidenAnimations play Digimon and hate it as a Pokemon Fan
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Digimon fans are like bleach fans, we have been hurt and are just happy when something new comes out and are overjoyed when someone decides to try it and join in
I enjoy digimon but bleach is not that much despite it's one of my first anime.
I drop the series so many times lol before I finished it
I remember always loving Bleach so much, even the fillers (some I tried watching again as an adult, and was like wtf)
Me who want to watch bleach because of the new season,but I can't,the show is too mediocre (idk why when I watch naruto and one piece 1 year ago it's amazing eventhough all of them is old shounen)
I move to the manga tho and it's decent, now I think I need 1 more arc before I can watch tybw
@@darkyonko7213 damn you think Naruto, One Piece and Bleach are mediocre
@@darkyonko7213 "amazing eventhough all of them is old shounen" so you're a kid?
I've said this on Jaiden's video but 99% of Digimon fans didn't become fans of Digimon because of the games. Digimon fans buy the Digimon games because they were already fans of the franchise and we don't want Bandai to kill it.
Me lol. Played DW2 and DW3 before watching Tamers
Also Rumble Arena
@@HazeEmry congrats you're part of the 1% 👏👏👏
i used to watch the show when i was a kid. even had a couple of little plushies of digimons. tho, i called those plushies kero and... stinky but. -_-' i was a fan of the ripping friends and for some reason, i thought the antagonist was cool when he got fart powers, alright? why did i name agumon after him? i dont know!
Jaiden: “It took 15 hours.”
Nux: “Well, Pokémon takes more than-“
Jaiden: “And I was cheating on every way I could to get through it faster.”
Lmao
Explains how she doesn’t know how to do anything
@@pn2294 the game was brutal, i remember trying to play that game without cheating, i was losing my mind and my sanity was beginning to cripple it was so painful since everytime you evolve, you actually reset your level to 1 and i was maybe around a quarter or half
@@pat1r1ck I think that’s more of a perception issue since stats don’t really get lower in spite of becoming level 1
@@pn2294 yes but it's still tedious
As a lifelong digimon fan this hit me
And as a lifelong pokemon fan i felt insulted by nux everytime he was just trash-talking about pokemon
Like, i could see why some of you digimon fans act that way, still interested on playing cybersleuth even
But tell me you dont go around insulting other frsnchises please
@@axl256gamesx7 nope the digimon fandom tends to not bash any fandom
@@axl256gamesx7 As a fan of both franchises, he is not wrong. What has became of Pokemon games after ORAS is... ugh... but at least Legends Arceus was great, so there's that.
The big problem is she dove into the games without experiencing any of the anime.
Digimon is the opposite of Pokemon, it's Primary Anime, the games are intended for fans not to rope in new fans
@@priestesslucy3299 AAAAAAAAAH
That makes sense
As a kid i had the og digimon world
My god i was never able to beat it because i thought i had to mantain the mon at 1 kg T_T
i stíll feel like an idiot nowadays
In her defense, the tutorial for this game was in its prequel. They just throw you in there cause they assumed you played Digimon World Ds.
This was my first digimon game and I found the tutorial easy
I didn't expect Nuxanor to be a digimon fan. I'm surprised and happy.
Oh yeah he loves Digimon especially S3 Tamers
The dude rigged an entire rancafe episode about isekai anime tournament to get digimon to win, which he succeded
@@rion7720 Which timed out perfectly because Briggs was sick that ep and had no say until after it already happened lmao classic
I didn't know that either but I'm not surprised.
@Rion what is rancafe?
If you played the game before, there are basically 2 things that you notice about the video:
First is how brutal this game can be to someone who doesn't know what to expect from it, since this game was rushed and released less than a year after the pevious one, it doesn't bother explaining you shit.
And second is that Jaiden have no memory whatsoever for map layouts. While they do get pretty complex sometimes, the city she described as a maze is literally 2 straight lines connected :v
I have excellent memory for map layout and I have some friends that are terrible at it and it's always funny playing any game we need to explore together since I basicly become their personal gps XD
The town map is just basically a circle. When she was walking shes basically walking in circles cause thats how the town layout was.
@@scarletrose8766 It's a 'P' sideways, to be more specific.
The fact she's still lost in the same 5 areas, thinking it's a maze, is funny as shit though, especially when you know there are multiple NPCs in that map that tell you where you are and where you're going if you keep walking a certain way.
@@Douglas628 she got used to having a mini map
@@scarletrose8766 I mean, in the spirit of fairness... minimaps are awesome.
Will not contest anything else said in this line of comments, but just wanted to throw that out there, as someone easily lost...
Jaiden plays through one of the most awful games from Digimon which most of them are lul then still came out a fan somehow sounds about right
"one of the most games from Digimon" -SamTheGumMan 117
@@Dr.BDover Thanks for the quote and I really need to proofread my shiz
@@SamTheGumMan117 It really be one of the most games though.
@@yumin_pluto558 to me it's still one of the most games. Was one of my favs back in the day
Its definitely an awful first game, but if you like getting stuck in on the stat customizing Dawn and Dusk are hard to beat.
My favorite part is that almost every major criticism that Jaiden had, Cyberbsleuth either fixed or duct taped together enough to work better.You have three levels of repel, a force encounter button for farming, no map but you can at least pull the camera back so far you can SEE and hacker's memory even has a walk speed up function. It's honestly just an overall more playable Dawn because it actually has QoL stuff.
Personally I think “Digimon worlds DS” is the best choice for first time Digimon fans. It’s the prequel to dusk and dawn and champions ds. It actually explains how to play and had a lot less grinding than champions and dusk. It is a lot more in-depth battle system and is a small enough change for Pokémon fans to enjoy it. To my understanding Digimon ds fans wanted a harder game so they made champions then they wanted it even harder so they made dawn and dusk. Not the prime game to start out with tbh.
That's what I thought
i like the that you brought this game up, but no for me , World ds is not much better X'D I recently replayed worlds DS and i didnt finish it , I remember playing and beating All of Worlds ds , Dawn and Dusk and Champions and i had fun when they were originaly released. I was younger then , had alot of time to waste ect, So the grind and everything wasn't so bad, But now i was replaying if for content creating , Yeh that was a regret. i whole heartly say that the newer games can do a better job for a person that wants to get into digimon , Play cybersleuth , Due to the story being intresting and the characters pulling you in. Survive is also good but is a visual novel mostly , i wont name Next order cus thats a diffrent ball game.
I always recommend CS if you want to play Digimon because the DS experience is good but the mechanics of the plates and tree still hurt when I replay it. It's a good thing that mechanic died in the xross blue and red.
@@JoordyDreaming I mentioned this when I made a comment on jaidens video but, the 3 codes you get in the first area can help you breeze through up till mid gold tamer which is a decent way through the story then you are already set up so you should have strong Digimon to replace the dot Digimon. Personally I went with guilamon line, Greymon line, and seadramon line. But I can see it being a bit of a hassle if you don’t use the codes.
@@RayquazaBath I mean I don’t disagree. But in the case of jaidens situation I would still go with ds. Also I liked the mechanics in ds with the 5 slots and attack patterns. But that’s just me. You could defeat all Digimon without giving them a chance to hit if you strategized right. But the digivolve menu I will admit is abismal. Mainly because I leveled up my metal Greymon in a vanilla ds game. Then I still couldn’t get Omnimon because it was locked behind trading/online features. That’s the only real gripe I had with ds. But it was so minimal it really didn’t matter much to me because there were plenty of other Digimon I could evolve I also liked guilmon’s mega form because it was reliant on game play time which I found to be a cool touch.
Ah I love it when nux talks about digimon. I watched pokemon in elementary and graduated to digimon in middle school. The fact that death existed in digimon made the show that much more impactful. Btw leomon in the family guy death pose made me Crack up so much.
Every time I hear nobody plays pokemon for the story I just want whoever said that to give the mystery dungeon games a try
When people say that is mostly towards the main line of games.
@@yarc9 I know, but when people say that nobody plays pokemon for the story, it is mostly refering to the mainiline pokemon games.
@@yarc9 They never said they HAD to be story driven
Just that nobody played it for the story, which is true
@@yarc9 until the first jaden pokemon video I didn't know pokemon games had a story (I only watched the anime and saw adds for the games)
I remember when I first played through Black about 6 years ago and heard it had a pretty good Pokemon story.
It was one of the least enjoyable RPGs I've played and the story was largely mediocre at best, and made me seriously wonder if Pokemon fans had no good frame of reference for what a good RPG story was.
Okay, but I must mention one thing about X and Y: ROLLERBLADES 🤣I'm a sucker for the rollerblades in that game. Plus the super training was a cool mechanic.
(Also so happy to see this, I legit was waiting to see how long it would take for Nux to watch this lol)
Dont forget the megaevolution
The one original mechanic that we all miss
@@axl256gamesx7 Original until you realize it was copied straight out of Digimon IT EVEN HAS THE SAME NAME!
And people say Digimon is the rip off...
@@VixYW original mechanic INSIDE pokemon, not in general
And i never called a digimon a ripoff
I know they have a different vibe
The part where Nux calls Jaiden Unbaptized as a joke, then has to explain to chat that he isn’t baptized either… I felt that moment on a personal level XD I always say things that I think are obviously unhinged and ridiculous enough for people to know that I’m not being serious, only to be reminded that, “Oh yeah, people like that really DO exist in this universe…“ Damn you, Twitter…! -^-
I've never played a Digimon game and I remember watching an episode when I was little just because it happened to be on TV (I remember like.. nothing about it tho) but I remember watching Jaiden's video thinking the same thing, "I mean, Pokemon does shove enemies at you quite often and I've gotten lost before." Then she dropped the "Yeah this game is only that but worse" and suddenly I understood her pain.
The anime is the best starting point, the games are for people who like the anime.
If a leomon dies in a game and nobody witnessed it is it still digimon
At that point nahhh 😂
Only if it's important to either the plot or a side quest.
Jaiden seems to know nothing about digimon at all, that’s why she wanted a handholding game like Pokémon to get introduced into the series with. And yea games that are too story focused like persona would probably be hard to make a video on because they are long and would require too much story retelling potentially and not enough time to talk about their reaction and own experience.
Then play the "bland" World 2 game. The best one for a short animation type video imo
Cyber Sleuth has nowhere as much story focus as people make it out to be, it's a normal RPG. It's a dumb attitude some fans have and people like Jaiden having a horrible experience with a shitty game that's oversold for "not having so much text" is the result.
Cyber Sleuth eases the player a lot more into its systems and actually establishes its world in a decent manner.
I think if not Cyber Sleuth, the best game for what she wanted would either be Digimon World Next Order or even Digimon World DS because while it shares a lot of the failures Dawn/Dusk it at least is meant for a complete newcomer while Dawn/Dusk just throws you into it expecting you to already be a digimon fan.
Nux 13:27 you missed the one torture people actively do. Seafoam Islands. You have to push boulders in holes to block a water current so that you can go to another area for the encounter with Arcticuno. Power Plant is also a maze you got to do for Zapdos. Most places in Pokemon, caves, villain bases, are all mazes.
I mean puzzle and Mazes in Pokémon are not really that hard, exept if you go in a cave without flash. But That's juste sabotaging yourself juste to prouve a point.
@@Yugito-Animation unless you memorized the map to the point that you could do it blindfolded.
@@HenshinFanatic at that point why play the game if you have it memorised? Move on to a new game
Pokémon mazes are usually in small doses, plus you have repels.
you think its as hard as some of the quest in this digimon dawn/dusk game then you are deluded lmfao
im both pokemon and digimon enjoyers, digimon world dawn is a brutal game, i enjoy it because i enjoy digimon, but if youre new to this franchise ,i dont expect u to have a good impression lol
A lot of the caves in Pokémon ARE vicious, or at least extremely annoying. But counter counter point. They aren't EVERY area in the game and repels still exist. Also its BECAUSE Pokémon games don't have a good story that they probably didn't want something that focused on one lol. Also yes, watch the anime. Especially Adventure 1, 2 and tamers. I kind of feel it went downhill after that though.
Also; pokemon has repels.
I actually liked Frontier thought it was an interesting concept and a decent change up but yeah after that it fell off.
@@joshuabean7805 I liked Frontier too. But I do feel there was a drop in quality from Tamers and Adventure 1/2, but not enough to outright ruin it. Like if I were to rate it, it was like dropping from a 9 or 10 out of 10 to 7 or 8. Still quite good and watchable. It wasn't a huge drop, and was only the start of the slide down hill. But yeah, what came after that, hoo boy.
The anime didnt go downhill. In fact adventure 02 sucks, has no direction and is overall a complete mess, it had so much development problems and it showed. Meanwhile Frontier and Savers are really solid with many characters fleshed out and truly remarkable villains and plot lines but they are nowhere near Tamers good (Best in the franchise) Xros Wars is really good too, sadly the manga is miles miles better so if you can you can, read that one. The new one, Ghost Game is great but have in mind that it is completely episodic and its basically digimon scooby doo. Adventure 2020 sucked and Universe is basically an unrelated spin off
@@rejuno1991 Thinking back I can agree for the most part on 02. Though I would say that more than having no direction it lost direction after the first half and Ken stopped being evil. Before that it was pretty straightforward, if a bit threadbare. But after that, yeah. they started floundering around a lot.
Frontiers was definitely a stronger showing than that story wise. It was some of the characters that grated on my nerves. But IN retrospect I would say Frontiers was better than 02 overall.
Savers I honestly found barely tolerable, I am not sure WHAT it was that I disliked about that show though. I mean it wasn't atrociously bad or anything. I dunno what to say about that one lol.
As for Xros Wars and the rest past Savers.... I honestly wasn't a fan. The characters were honestly annoying and pretty much one note. I didn't even watch the second series with the new characters. The story was also pretty bland.
But to each their own and we all enjoy what we enjoy.
Im just glad she learned her lesson
Start with Cyber Sleuth
Or World 2 or World 3
@@HazeEmry But not world 4 unless you hate yourself like me.
@@ianlawvoiceover1056 yeah. World 4 is ass... Played any other world title?
Next order would also be a good choice.
Digimon World would have been a fun start, it's pretty much a unique genre on itself, but most people can´t understand that the gym is a trap and is more important exploring than farming mindlessly.
I will defend the game a bit here. Yes the encounters and level design are extreme, but the battle and digivolution mechanics are great. Battles are really fun as they incorporate some tactical decision making. You have to make choices about attacks based on which squares they hit in the battle, and how far back in turn order the attack puts you. It does a lot to spice up battles. I think digivolution was also fun, if a little overtuned in some areas. You have to get certain stats and types of experience. That usually happened as you progressed through the game, but some had moderate walls that you had to overcome if you wanted to get a certain digivolution early. There were definitely a lot of digivolutions that required too much though. Overall the games are fun if you’re prepared for a more hardcore experience, and I understand they’re not really for everyone. I do still love the games though.
The journey of stockholm syndrome from Jaiden is a blast, but i was left dying over the human raisin part, that was probably the best insult one could toss widouth being rude.
As a Pokemon fan, I understand what Jaiden means when she asks the question, "What is a Digimon?"
In Pokemon, the monsters are natural creatures like regular animals IRL. It makes sense. She wants to know what the Digimon equivalent is. Saying they're digital monsters doesn't cut it. Are they naturally occuring creatures in a digital world? Is there a non-digital world like the Megaman Battle Network/Starforce games and they were created by humanity? If not, where exactly do humans fit in? How is it possible for the biological and artificial to exist in different states in the same world?
I think this is what she meant and from the perspective of someone that knows nothing of Digimon, it's a valid question.
For real, she didn't even know what the digital world was.
Personally, imo starting with _any_ Digimon game before seeing one of the anime is a mistake.
Adventure 01, Adventure 2020 and Tamers are all great places to enter the franchise.
Savers and Xros Wars get a decent second place here
13:14
Got to say something:
Pokemon has Repels (I know Cybersleuth apparently does but this game didn't, and most Pokemon fans at least have... y'know, SOMEWHERE TO START besides a bible's worth of lore and an anime)
AND ROCK TUNNEL'S MAP CAN BE GOOGLE'D.
Sure let me just Google World Dawn's mazes and figure it out from there...
Oh wait, they're convoluted.
13:25
Wrong puzzle! Also I think you're thinking of Platinum's Victory road, which I still get lost in to this day...
But at least the Run rates are like... 95% chance
Thing about Rock Tunnel it that it's fairly linear. The maps in Dawn/Dusk are true mazed with numerous dead ends and loops.
This.
I played Gen 1 as a kid and I never felt lost.
Honestly, I'm not sure if he's hating on pokemon as a joke or because he's bitter.
@@kazekamiha I remember not having flash and just hugged the wall and got through anyway.
The reason why no digimon fans can really agree on a Digimon game, other than the Cyber Sleuth games anyway, is because the Digimon games are all secondary to the anime, and most Digimon fans will tell you they got into Digimon via the anime.
Its because most Digimon games suck.
@@JayceCH.Dusk, dawn, ds, digimon world 1-2, cyber sleuth and it's sequel-ish, these are the games most people who play digimon know and they're all good
counter counter point: the caves are jsut a small aprt of pokemon.
DIGIMON DUSK IS IF EVERYTHING, LITERALLY EVERY LOCATION, IS A CAVE. BUT THE ZUBATS CAN KICK YOUR ASS.
The fact the she had such a bad time (do to her own mistake) and still came out a Digimon fan is a flex
"There's no map to Rock Tunnel!"
*holds up an old Pokémon guide*
I can do better on the whole name thing. Anyone who knows Japanese knows that each sound/letter in their alphabet is composed of a consonant sound and a vowel sound. So in each single letter space, they are fitting in the equivalent of two English letters. So for them, a space of five letters is actually plenty for them. They can get Kudasuyoshi out of that space (not that that's an actual name, but you get my point). So when the game was localized, they didn't (or rather, couldn't) alter things to add more letters for names in other languages. Something to do with how the memory in the game works...I wish I was more knowledgeable about it to explain it in better detail. But...I digress...The naming thing was not made with anyone other than the Japanese in mind. Hell, naming your character in Pokemon Blue and Red had similar limitations.
To be fair to Jaiden, it isn't necessarily her fault she thought Digimon was similar to Pokemon. When Digimon came out, it was marketed as if it was similar to Pokemon. That's how advertising works; you try to make it appeal to the widest audience possible, often using the broadest or most general truths available, regardless if it gives people the wrong impression, because what matters is if the product you are advertising sells. And in Digimon's case, Pokemon was already extremely popular at the time. So the marketing team made it seem like Digimon was similar to Pokemon in marketing in the hopes of riding on Pokemon's coattails and bankrolling on Pokemon's explosive popularity. That being said, I remember a lot of people thinking Digimon was just an imitator and ignoring it as a result, so I guess that instead of riding the blast, Digimon just got caught in the initial explosion and took damage instead. Whoops...! Don't trust commercials and advertisments, kids!
13:20 "There's no map to Rock Tunnel."
It's a tunnel. Not a cave. With zero branches or detours. Stick to one wall and you'll make it out just fine.
Victory Road is supposed to be challenging seeing as it's the very last cave before facing the Elite Four.
Seeing her gameplay I'm fairly certain she NEVER expanded her party when she fought the final boss with just her starters
Which considering Digimon has a level cap system would make the game WAAAAAY more tedious and grindy
Yeah in the Story games I always get the full 6.
I heard from others that it might be because the formal tutorial on that was omitted in this game as it was already in the previous game this is a sequel too (which Dawn also being harder because its a sequel mostly aimed as players of the previous game)
If you never played Digimon, you would be vastly unfamiliar with how Digimon grow. I only was familiar with DNA Digivolve from Digimon World 2, and that process is also in this game and is as tedious as Pokemon breeding.
Yup, she actively refuses to read the tutorials, refuses to engage in the games !echanics, then calls the game bad because of her poor way of handling it.
She never learned how to equip items, dedigivolve, add team members, or multiple other features, as seen on her second channel.
Fun fact: the existence of twitter was built on betrayal and drama, the dude who made the thing got backstabbed shortly after they reached 1 milion users.
"No one cares about the story in pokémon games."
Me, who plays pokémon PRIMARILY for the stories and characters: How dare.
Same here, that's why I refuse to touch Platinum.
@@Karak-_- There's a fair possibility that nostalgia is influencing my opinion, as Diamond and Pearl were my first main series pokémon games, but even with an only so-so story and bland as bread characters, Platinum still managed to be a pretty enjoyable game for me (it probably helped that, while the story itself wasn't all that great, the lore and world building it worked in was AMAZING). If you haven't played it, I'd recommend giving it a chance, especially if you played and enjoyed Legends Arceus, and *double* especially if you played and hated Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl (that might seem counter intuitive given that Platinum was a sister game to Diamond and Pearl, but trust me, the additions and changes Platinum made were a WORLD of difference).
zeta/omicron fangames have teh best story, change my mind
@Rage Kage "it's literally a bad story and the characters are the most bland of all"
Hop going through an entire character arc revolving around questioning his own worth, Piers, Marnie and Team Yell desperately attempting to breath some life into their home, Team Star being cast as the villains when they were the victims of bullying (which is a sort of event I've seen play out in real life, albeit not on such a large scale), Arven being put through the emotional wringer with his entire life, Grusha having a drastic change of outlook after an accident forced him to give up something important to him, Lilly and Gladion struggling to deal with the fallout of their abusive mother's actions (at least before USUM butchered that story line and added a few gaping plot holes), Kamado needing to be saved from a self destructive path that he went down out of desperation to protect his people, and Volo being pushed to the point of madness through the hardships of his past all beg to differ. Pokemon's story telling is more subtle than in other games, but that doesn't mean it's bad or that the characters are bland. I love a story that gets me to think and analyze and look for more pieces of the story (especially when that analysis is directed towards characters), and pokémon does just that. Older pokémon games weren't as well written because they put so much focus on the evil teams, which more often than not felt like very flat villains (with the exception of Team Plasma; they had some pretty thought-provoking story going on), but more recent games have turned to more character driven narratives, which has lead to lovable and memorable characters. I'll be honest; before Sword and Shield, I struggled to remember the names of most gym leaders (with the only exceptions being the ones that were note worthy, like Giovanni, who was story relevant, or Whitney who was just kinda made into a meme for being so obnoxious to battle). But more recent games have given a level of life and personality to the characters that actually makes them stick in my mind now. If you asked me to name all the regional gym leaders for any gen before Sword and Shield, I genuinely don't think I could do it. But after Sword and Shield, I could probably name the majority of them, if not the entirety of them, which I think is a true testament to how good they've gotten at making memorable characters. Honestly I can't comprehend people who don't like the stories in pokémon, because it's truly some phenomenal stuff, especially in how they deliver some of it. Like, every story's got it's exposition, but pokémon's mastered some creative ways of delivering story with significantly less of it; whether it's being able to read character journals, involving pokémon to imply certain things by using what the player already knows about that pokémon through pokédex entries, set dressings, or more recently using flashbacks, pokémon's genuinely got some really good story telling, especially in more recent games. They just take a different angle to story telling that requires a bit more effort and thought to get a clear picture, and I personally love it. So much better than stories that beat you over the head with their point (you wanna talk about a pokémon game that *actually* has bad writing, I still haven't finished Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon because the degree to which they shove the message down your throat is just so overwhelmingly obnoxious, and it takes forever for anything even slightly important to truly get going).
1:55 I'd actually Sun and Moon actually WAS the last good mainline Pokemon game (if you don't count Legends as a mainline game, because that blew it out of the park).
Sun and Moon had Novel deviations from the Gym Leader challenge. A unique twist on the 'evil team'. Solid cut scene animations. A good roster of new Pokemon. The introduction of regional variants. Ride Pokemon doing away with HM Slaves. It had a good plot and good characters. A lot of great new innovations that sparked the franchise.
Sure, Ultra S&M was a quick carbon copy ripoff with little additions, but the new plot wasn't bad, and did a good job to smooth over some old plot holes.
tl;dr
We're only one (counting Legends) if not, two (Sun and Moon) generations from a good Pokemon game.
It's one of my favorite games people just hate on it because of how many cut scenes there are but complain that modern pokemon games have no stories
FINALLY. I've been waiting for this one
I totally get sticking to your fandom and supporting it over another regardless of the circumstance, especially to side with an audience.
That said, I feel there is a difference between a game being judged based on the peaks of its own franchise that has a reputation for being fun games and very least consistent in a certain bar of quality vs a game just being a bad game in general when compared to entertainment value across the board.
Having played close to a half dozen different Digimon games over the years. While I enjoy the franchise the number of ones which were memorable and well-designed experiences versus the ones that found the janky and inconsistent in quality over the lifespan of Digimon games. Unfortunately, leaned towards the latter in my opinion and considering what the popularity of the franchise is more based off of in comparison to say a franchise like pokémon which primary focus was towards the video game. I can't say I'm that surprised in the current climate of the communities. Regards to past Digimon game efforts and see a lot of truth in her experience
I've always felt like the problem was Wonderswan tbh. Everyone I know who can read enough Japanese to play one says they're good. But Wonderswan only ever produced handhelds in Japan, so everyone else was a secondary market where you could just hand off liscencing to C-tier studios with wildly disparate ideas about what a digimon game should be.
As a person who played Dawn before hand, I can say I enjoy my experienced with it. I think the main reasoning that enjoyed it (other than being a Digimon fan) was due to that I could dedicate quite a lot of time to just grind digi-evolugion and not focus on anything else.
And to think all of this could have been avoided if Jaiden played Digimon Rumble Arena.
One thing that proves her point is that almost every digimon fan who reacted to that video recomended a differente game
True I've watched like 10 reactions and every single one said a different game. Personally I think Nux has it right, watch one of the anime seasons first to get a general gist (I'd go with adventure 2 since that introduces the armor and DNA evolution methods plus mode change) and then go into the games. Also would recommend that she plays Cybersleuth even though its narrative heavy its mechanics are much more beginner friendly.
I've seen this video and laughed on one of her moments.
I sympathize with her having no choice but to go to Twitter
Imagine twitter reccomend her to play digimon world 1 like she hates grinding and if she do any of the tamagotchi based game she will realize the difference between digimon and pokemon and that DW1 will make you suffer for having to keep your digimon live long enough and be strong enough to progress to the story and your digimon can die before you reach the boss room.
1:40 Legends Arceus to answer your question/comment
Yup, I said that as well.
Legends appears to be the turning point for the franchise, some lessons learned from it seem to have made it into Gen 9 and everything I've seen so far is damn good.
Maybe not Unova good but it's at least Gen 4 tier
Not a main line game. Not even a series yet. Until it gets a sequel with voice acting it might as well be a standalone, off-brand, mobile pokemon game since they're the same. Or is that too much to ask from the biggest game company in the world?
Nux spitting facts on fan requirements
And just spitting facts on Twitter!
Nux has had the best take on this video so far XD, and he's right she should have started with the anime, the most important thing here is understanding what a digimon is and what the Digital world is. Also Dawn/Dusk is the second game in the Digimon Stories series, Digimon World DS being the first one, After Dawn/Dusk is, Lost evolution and another title both were Japan only releases though, then Cyber Sleuth came out and was the first game in the series to become Digimon Story. They all play similar to each other, Cyber Sleuth is probably the best out of all of them but they are a fun enjoyable ride if you know what Digimon is and like it. My favorite part of the series is being able to have multiple digimon and get all the Mega Waifu mon :x Plus Shining Greymon
“You mean like nuzlockes which you’ve done a bunch of?!” Ok, first of all, Jaiden was choosing out of her own free will to play by those rules, and second of all, as a first-time digimon player, why in the world would she wanna play like that
In all 100% fairness. I love the Digimon Dusk/Dawn games. HOWEVER. They are hard as all fuck. I noticed she didn't have any Digimon in her farm, which is part of the fun. If you're going straight through ONLY raising your starter Digimon you're going to be bored out of your mind. The reason spawn rates are super high and why they're mazes is you're expected to raise multiple Digimon as well as multiple farms. Your Digimon in the farm would appear on the top screen and talk to you and you can watch them train. It's very much a precursor to Cyber Sleuth which fixes essentially all the issues in Dusk/Dawn by toning down the sheer size of mazes (a little too much IMHO) and making Digivolution a LOT more streamlined. In Dusk/Dawn the Digivolution tree is fairly limited. I can't just start off with Koromon and end up getting any Digimon out of it from enough evolution and de-evolution. You have essentially one path that splits on occasion and you HAVE to have the proper stats to do it, which of course are gained from training on the farm, evolution/de-evolution, and friendship levels.
Dusk/Dawn are basically Stockholm Syndrome the game. As a Digimon fan in the early 2000s we had barely anything gamewise so we sucked it up and played it.
I specifically remember it was a nightmare to get Lucimon (which to this day is a favorite). You had to raise Devimon and Angemon to a specific level and I think they had to have specific stats before you could DNA Digivolve them into Lucimon.
So. I love the game because I'm a Digimon masochist.
(You actually meet the protagonist from Digimon Dusk in Cyber Sleuth's DLC and get access to her Digimon Lunamon, which is nice, but if you play Dawn you're SoL because Coronamon got the shaft)
only one of devimon or angemon needs to meet the level 42 req with i think 30000 dark exp to evo thow i rec getting the second atleast there level cap up cause it do add them and since you cant undo it you can save that grinde time by slapping the other in farm as you level the main body
I love dusk but yeah most of the maps are mazes. The one I always always get lost in is loop swamp. I’m not sure if it a mandatory quest for dawn or not but I have to look up guides whenever I go there
When's nux's top 10 anime video gonna come out in this channel he did that on the stream almost 2weeks ago !!!
One of my favorite anime intros is the og Digimon intro it will always live in my head
Terriermon isn't just _in_ Cyber Sleuth, he's one of the starter choices.
9:46 That is the beast impression! LOL
I love that the of all the options, the game she finally landed on is the one everyone's reaction is, "Digimon World what??"
I was waiting for nux to cover this
I was wondering when he was gonna upload this
Same
Jaiden, "I HATE DIGIMON!"
Nux: *squeezes his Renamon body pillow and cries*
15:28 I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR THE ADEPTUS MECHANICUS
Reading saves live, not reading tutorials and anything plot or story in a game that requires you to engage plot and story and is actively trying to teach you things is not the games fault
Nux streams Cyber Sleuth! Let's gooooo!!!! XD
I liked Digimon Dusk and Dawn even with its complicated dungeons, mandatory side quests, and level grinding. I also liked Pokemon Sun and Moon. There were a few interesting pokemon from the Sword and Shield era.
Oh yeah, Cyber Sleuth has Terriermon as one of your starters XD I think it was... Hagurumon (however you spell the name of that gear shaped Digimon), Palmon (or was that Betamon?) and Terriermon.
palmon terriermon hagurumon in sluthe in hacker memory its betamon tentomon and gotsumon
To be fair with the pokemon caves bit, not once does it get mentioned you could use flash a TM as a move outside of battle, until some of the newer ones where is said lightly.
I don't know if I'm some sort of masochist or maybe because she kind of admits that she doesn't learn from the tutorial but I still find that Digimon world dusk and Dawn really fun, also should have started with Digimon World DS as it ease you into the mechanics as Dusk and Dawn throw you into the plot.
Not jadien walking in on the adeptus mechanicus worshiping a digimon 😂
I think it’s funny how she doesn’t realize the “worm” is a sea dragon
Wyrm is a term for dragons its pronounced as worm
@@Squirreltasticqueen Yeah, but she was clearly using “worm”, not “Wyrm”, considering she thought it was odd how the “worm” devolved into a lizard. If she meant “Wyrm”, then there’d be no reason to find that odd.
Snakes starting out as Lizards is actually quite accurate. A lot more sense than some of the other Digimon at least.
I actually commented on her video the anime was the way to go , also mazes in Pokemon and limited experience and they are sort of easy honestly
Gotta love that 'Tribute to Anomalocaris' XD
When Jaiden is describing how hard the dungeons are in a Digimon game all i can say is "You've played a JRPG before right? Oooooh you started with pokemon... yeah this series doesn't hold your hand."
Is it bad that everything she listed as a con and them skipping over stuff due to being a sequel, i actually liked about that game? (I’m a fan of both btw just copped Scarlet today)
Died a little on the inside when he mentioned the 5 minute tutorials in pokemon. Scarlet and violet went and ran with the tutorial for lot longer
they did? I must be a speedrunner because the tutorial was literally "catch this lechonk. Alright you good, go get em tiger"
@@BlazingKhioneus I mean technically you go and catch stuff pretty quickly but you do have a lengthy sequence to go thru in order to get your mount and be able to challenge the gyms, titans, and evil team.
@@joshuabean7805 ...That's not the tutorial by that point, that's the prologue.
I hope you had a good time reacting to her video.
Also that "bruh" always kills me
Pokemon: started with good games. Digimon: started with good anime (all the way through Tamers). Both: Very mixed opinions nowadays. Also, while it definitely isn't a good game, I will say that she played the monster raising game with cheats that keep you from actually raising your digimon in any meaningful way. It's not good, but the things that people probably enjoyed about it, are the things that she (very understandably,) chose not to experience.
That comment about being in the bathroom on RUclips I feel very called out as I watch this from atop the porcelain throne
Best part is how Jaiden gets lost in the home city.
I'm sorry, I forgot, the best part was her using exp cheats instead of the free DotShinegreymon who can nearly solo the game.
01:56 Hey! Sun and Moon were fun and engaging. Even if it was pretty easy most of the time. It's the ultra games that somehow mess it up. Almost purely by comparison.
02:11 Hey! I liked those Sun and Moon cutscenes...for the most part. That ending set went on WAY too long.
In a way, Nux is Jaiden counterpart
i used to remember the correct routes in all the dark pokemon caves because I didn’t know that you could use any non hm move in the overworld… also i didn’t speak any English at all so there was no guides I could use, I had to learn the layouts by trial and error
I'm a fan of both franchises as I grew up in the 90s so playing the PSP Digimon Aventure fan translation was a great nostalgic playthrough. I even have videos of me playing it on my channel
not ganna lie ive always needed a walkthrough for almost any digimon game. digimon world 3 took me like 500 hrs to get like half wy thru grinding
Digimon World Dawn was the first digimon game I almost finished. But, I soft locked on the final boss by saving right before it and you can't go backwards after entering the boss area and I found that it was much stronger than me.
So, when's progression continuing with Briggs? Or was there something I missed.
That baptism joke was low-key fire
8:12 Those are all their *english* names though. TK’s name in the Japanese version is Takeru, which is more than 4 letters. And so is Tai’s Japanese name, Taichi. And Matt’s: Yamato
Well, Japanese also has a different letter system.
sorry for replying on a comment made 7 months ago, just wanted to clarify for anyone reading this now, it's still under four letters in Japanese "ta" "ke" "ru" is 3 symbols in Japanese hiragana aka たける and the same goes for other names
@@ainesk0.074 Those are kana. Kana are entire syllables, not letters.
@@ainesk0.074LOL, every name this person listed is 3 characters.
13:31 i remember I just found a video that told me where to go and to get repels… soo….
I love how Nux still thinks Digimon do not die. Clearly, he has not seen last evolution Kizuna
Or play survive
Or X Evolution, yes I went there.
He's not that wrong. In most cases Digimon are have a way to resurrect after death like the Village of Beginnings. But that's where a plenty of nuances come into play.
They normally don't die, as far as I remember digimon die when "They die In the real world" "an admin kills them" "A super god virus deletes them"
And Tamers
Digimon Rumble Arena (the first one ever made) was a personal favorite of mine
I'm a pokemon fan since I'm 5yo (1st gen games and anime became popular here that year) and I'm a digimon enjoyer having only watched the anime until Tamer. The funny thing is I've been looking recently to try Cyber Sleuth and when Jaiden said it wasn't what she was looking for I tought "WTF! It's the best pokemon-like digimon game XD"
She just wants a hand holding game with no effort.
@@catandrobbyfloresNo, she did said it wasn't the type of game she wanted to play for CONTENT, did you hear her.
Some people join a fandom from the fanfic, or the hentai, but Jaiden, Jaiden joins a fandom through sandpaper durian up the rectum
I lost it when she avoided Cybersleuth. That's like THE BEST Digimon game
⚠️Warning to earphones users⚠️at 22:00 nux will clap/smack something and damn near bust ur eardrums from the sound
"When was the last time their was good Pokemon game? Black 2 white 2"
SIR as a Pokemon fan of 24 YEARS...............you right....
21:51 wheeeeeeeze yeah, I need therapy
Wait, I totally forgot there was a Sora AND a Mimi on that team. Together, do they become Team Misheard Lyrics? It's been a while, so I forget. 😉
3:56
Ah
Ya got me there XD
I actually like Digimon World Dusk, I'm playing it now xD It's horrifically, stupidly grindy, but I kinda enjoy that. And it's fun to get your digimon stats so stupidly high that your rookies can smash through ultimates x3
I found her video really funny cause I was an insane kid who adored World Dusk. As in I easily had over 100 hours clocked into that game
I think I matched that with dawn. It was so much fun!
Funny enough I'm watching this on the toilet
9:15 That’s MegaSeadramon, not MetalSeadramon.
Momentai Nux, momentai :)