DIY retractable WELDER Cord Reel 50amp 240volt Plasma Cutter

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  • Build a Retractable Welder Cord Reel for 1/10 the cost of buying one.
    3 wire SLIP RING: ❗️READ BELOW❗️
    50ft air hose reel: amzn.to/3b4guTB
    🔌 NEMA 6-50r 50amp Cord End: amzn.to/3XhHUub
    50ft air hose reels can also be found at Harbor Freight(Merlin is better than the Central Pneumatic and is worth the few extra bucks)
    BUILD THOUGHTS
    Buying a premade welder retractable cord reel will set you back over $1000. Yes a grand! I already had the cord(8/4 SOOW) so my total costs for the Hose Reel and Slip Ring fell under $100. You don't need a 6 wire slip ring like I had in the video a 3 wire is more than adequate for a 50amp "WELDER CIRCUIT". amzn.to/3043FCA for a 3 wire/30 amp per wire. This is rated at 30amp at 100% duty cycle. Now you ask how is that adequate for a 50amp Nema 6-50 plug/circuit? We don't need 100% duty cycle for welders/plasma cutters. Homeowner Welders at full output generally draw sub 50amp at 20-30% duty cycle and this will EASILY handle it. And that's at FULL power, when was the last time you ran your 240v welder at full power until the overload protection kicked in? Now if you wanted to use this for powering an RV or similar 100% duty cycle appliance you will be limited by the 30AMPs of the slip ring and you should NOT exceed that. As far as the cord on the reel, 10/3 or 8/3 would have been lighter than my 8/4 I put on there and would be better. As a word of cation: Never run any cord reel at full power draw with multiple layers on the spool. Unroll them so they can have access to naturally cool under use. LABEL the cord end and reel so future people know the limitations.
    This and all my projects are HIGHLY simplified for the videos and a ton of background testing is edited out. I take tons of precautions and do continuing tests to ensure my calculations are correct and everything will work safely for me and my equipment. If you have no idea what I was talking about in the video when it comes to amperage, voltages, and wiring; do not attempt this. Want more info do your own research. National Electrical Code NEC article 630 is a great place to start.
    ❗️3 wire slip ring:❗️ The largest gauge wire I can find on a slip ring is 12awg, which is the same gauge wire that is likely on your welder. It will handle 50amps with a DUTY cycle of up to around 40%. YOU CAN NOT run a stove, dryer, shop machinery off one of these as it won't give the wire enough time too cool. Here it is: windandsolar.c... If you want you can buy the 6 wire as a redundancy like I did in the video but I would still not run 50amps continuously : windandsolar.c...
    Now with that said you can't run 12awg wire for the entire coiled cord as the voltage drop will be too much over 25-50ft. You need to stick with at least 10awg but 8awg is better. ❗️
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Комментарии • 308

  • @shaneducsharm9228
    @shaneducsharm9228 3 года назад +42

    Im almost certain there will be some RUclips electrical inspector try and say this isn't to code, however, being an actual electrician I can 100% confirm this man has done his homework and everything is totally up to snuff. Awesome idea! I will definitely be doing the same in my garage!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +7

      Thanks. The only thing I should probably do is shield the slip ring wires going to the junction box. I just wrapped them with tape mainly so I could test their temps as they are the weak link.

    • @SuperMapupa
      @SuperMapupa 2 года назад

      @Shane Ducsharm I really hope you are not a licensed electrician, running 30+Amps through a low voltage chinisium slip ring.... you don't need to be an electrical inspector to spot troubles.

    • @ghostridergale
      @ghostridergale 2 года назад

      Great idea for sure, I do love having any long cords whether it’s air, electrical, etc. on some kind of retractable roll hanging from my ceiling whenever possible. Sure makes a cleaner set up and more convenient when you need to use it too! Hopefully one of those days I’ll have a need to add one of these too. But for now I still need more practice just weilding things for myself and a little Wielder all I can handle dealing with at this point. If I ever get good enough to do larger projects then this be a great addition to add to my shop too!

    • @michaelosmon
      @michaelosmon Год назад

      @Lehich his welders don't draw 30 amps though if they have 14guage power wires

  • @oh8wingman
    @oh8wingman 3 года назад +5

    I have had a number of welding trucks and shop machines over the years and many had similar reels for extension cords , welding cables, and the like. The only possible problem I can foresee here is heat. That cord will heat up slightly when you are using it. The code is based on the cord being open to the air to help it cool. When it is on a reel, only the outer layer can cool. The inner layers will grow successively warmer as you go in towards the reel. Over time this warmth will cause the inner layers of cord insulation to deteriorate and fail. This rig will work fine as long as you take all the cord of the reel when you use it for any length of time.If possible, you might want to create some ventilation holes around the reel drum to allow some air circulation. I found this out the hard way when one of my welding cable reels burst into flame one day with heavy usage.

  • @chuckster6513
    @chuckster6513 3 года назад +2

    This is one of the best repurposing videos I have ever seen.
    I am new to this channel but this guy is real !
    I have watched several videos that he has done and felt educated after each one.
    Ad that to the fact that he has a 65 FORD, Way Cool Guy !
    Thank you Dude.
    Be Safe and Well

  • @charleshoward9983
    @charleshoward9983 3 года назад +2

    I agree with Shane you definitely have it going on. I'm 66 and I do belive I could definitely learn alot from hanging out with you. Great project you did there. Course I don't believe there has been a video I don't learn something from. Again great video. Thanks for sharing them and keep them coming I look forward to your videos. Take care and be safe.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +1

      Hey Thanks. Very kind of you to say.

  • @ryanpiar3490
    @ryanpiar3490 3 года назад +3

    Alot of keyboard electricians out there! I like the idea of using a slip ring. Nice execution. Folks need to understand the issue with wound welder ext cords is heat soak. So as stated, unwind the cord when using for a big project. It is super convenient to take only what you need to make a couple quick welds. Prolonged use will heat the cord up and make it curly Q when it is unwound. A little common sense goes a long way. Thanks for the great video!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Ryan. That's the problem they need to make items these days for complete idiots that have no common sense.

  • @NCprivateer
    @NCprivateer 2 года назад +6

    I didn’t know I needed one, but now this is going on the project list. Awesome job.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  2 года назад

      Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

    • @harrywalker5836
      @harrywalker5836 Год назад

      @@sixtyfiveford here in sht hole aus..a regulatory r trd, will cut the end, off your extension cord, if it has a kink, lay,s on ,over, any metal object, is not taged. is not suported above head height, not on ground, has bits of sheath nicked. has to have clear, ends, to see wires connected. allways has to have earth. all electrical equipment taged every 3 months.wearther used, or not, in your truck,. they send women round to inspect sites as,,'' you cant hit a woman''..

  • @randymack1782
    @randymack1782 2 года назад

    I got a job many years ago at shop, I brought my welder, and was too poor to buy a good extension cord, so I went to flea market, and bought a 12 gauge cord, then used it to move around my welder, which was a Lincoln AC/DC tombstone welder, cord was 30' and it worked great, didnt get warm, unless running several rods at top end of welders range, and most of the time welder was in middle of range, I welded hundreds of trailers, never had issues, still own the cord, its stored in my attic, but I picked up longer & heavier cords I use around home, like 85' of 10 gauge, or 135' of 8 gauge. never needed to hook both together. but yeah those are heavy. but I may need to bring my old 12 gauge cord down.

  • @alec4672
    @alec4672 3 года назад +2

    (for anybody that doesn't know) Basically with a slip ring it can spin for as long as a motor can, that's basically what's inside of a universal motor. It can spin as fast as a motor too if you support it properly. You can run parallels for a single appliance say you have a rolling mill feeder that need 600a 480v you could run 4 sets of 3 phase to keep your wire radius down but you have to individually protect each conductor with at minimum fuses. That's way beyond the scope of this video though 😂😂 your screw facing got my like 🤙

  • @PaulThomas-qo9vy
    @PaulThomas-qo9vy 3 года назад

    The more I watch your videos on 65Ford, the more I appreciate the depth & width of your knowledge & skills in the mechanical arts. Thanks for sharing!

  • @macswanton9622
    @macswanton9622 3 года назад +1

    Belt-and-suspenders. Definitely the way to go with high voltage/amperage. Thumbs up!

  • @riftvalley1765
    @riftvalley1765 6 месяцев назад

    I always wanted my welder extension to be retraceable but as you mentioned they are really expensive, the other day I picked up 3 hose reels from a local recycling place for $50, use 1 as is for air and I wanted to use one of them for a 12awg extension cord & the other one for my welder cord but didn't know that I need the slip in piece, I didn't even finish watching the video I went on amazon to try to get the 40A but that's $53 & it comes from China, however on eBay there's one that is made for wind turbine rated for 90A for only $18, I ordered 2 of them to seal the deal.
    If any channel deserves the subscription this is the one & thank you for sharing your knowledge. Hope to see you with another great video.

  • @tuffy16
    @tuffy16 Год назад

    Used them for extension cord and remote cable for my welder, $100.00 MAX works great! YOU DA MAN!!

  • @1970chevelle396
    @1970chevelle396 3 года назад +4

    What I ended up doing was making two extension cords. One is 50 feet long the other one is 15 feet long. Most of the times I only need the 15 foot one. That I don't have to roll the heavy 50 foot cord up.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +5

      That's exactly what I've been doing. I have a 20', 50' and 100'. The 20' is adequate most of the time but it drives me crazy when I need another 5-10' and the 50' has to come out.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING 3 года назад +8

    Great idea Bud!! I just cut my 120 ft cord in half last week, it was 12ga!! Not so much for the weight but it's also just a pain in the balls to wrap up!!☺

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +5

      The cord I used was over 100'. I'm happy to cut it down as it was just too much to deal with at that length. Now I have 50' on the spool and 50' I can manage easier.

    • @cameronlamb7274
      @cameronlamb7274 3 года назад

      Check out how essential craftsman handles his extension cords

  • @byronwoolfrey1039
    @byronwoolfrey1039 3 года назад +4

    Made a similar one using a garden hose spool on wheels and the mechanism off an old vacuum for the spinning part for my 50ft. Extension cord.

  • @AtimatikArmy
    @AtimatikArmy 3 года назад +1

    The KING of DIY has once again spoken!

  • @nocompredejavu
    @nocompredejavu 3 года назад +4

    Your videos are so insightful and just plain awesome. Love how you make things practically and describe the perfect amount of detail so even dolts like me can follow. Thank you!

  • @jeepthrasher
    @jeepthrasher 3 года назад +1

    Sure wish you were my next door neighbor. Love your videos!

  • @chadhelmer3835
    @chadhelmer3835 3 года назад +2

    I like the idea of redundancy in the slip ring. This is the most likely point of failure. Nice work!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +1

      That was my thought. I wouldn't buy a 6 conductor over a 3 though for this purpose but it worked out fine.

  • @DereksWorkshopAndProjects
    @DereksWorkshopAndProjects 3 года назад

    Dude you are a genius! Everything you build yourself looks almost factory and it’s always super well done!

  • @campbellpaul
    @campbellpaul 3 года назад +3

    Keen! A plus is that it can be stored high and away... Thanks, amigo!

  • @GodzHammer
    @GodzHammer 3 года назад +2

    We need a garage/work shop tour!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +2

      I did one last year, but stuff has changed since then.

  • @vincentlo7292
    @vincentlo7292 3 года назад +1

    They have power reels for RV applications with 50 amp wires. You can probably buy one of those and fit your own ends to them. I've even seen these reels have power retract.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +2

      Yes they do make exactly what I made here but it'll cost you about $1, 000-$2,000.

  • @sharonbradford4494
    @sharonbradford4494 8 месяцев назад +1

    One more thing that uses slip rings is the famous rotated tornado sirens you know the ones that’s got a rotator. The motor at the top has to have a stable connection and we’re slip rings come in

  • @bmay8818
    @bmay8818 3 года назад +1

    I use a normal 120v 12ga extension cord for my welder. I made adapters that convert one end into a 5-20 plug (which goes into my shop receptacle) and the other into a dryer outlet for the welder. It basically makes a 240v extension cord.
    Anyway, nice work! That's a handy thing to have.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      Very cool. I would do the same and with occasional hand to cord heat temp checks, never give it a second thought. 12awg will easily handle 50amps up to about 25feet with a 20% duty cycle. But I don't think I have even needed to turn my stick welder up to full output, so I'm only pulling 20-30amps ever.

    • @bmay8818
      @bmay8818 3 года назад

      @@sixtyfiveford I actually made two different adapters. One converts a standard 120v plug into a 240/120v 5-20 plug (the kind with one prong sideways). On the other end is the female version of that adapter, but I also made another one that converts from a 5-20 to a dryer style outlet. My plasma cutter takes a 5-20, my welder uses a dryer outlet, so I can do both with the same extension cord just by switching adapters on one end. Anyway, yeah, it works great and I've never noticed anything heating up. My welder can't do a 100% duty cycle and actual on time is fairly small anyway, so like you said, no need for big fat expensive wire.

  • @davidfrank2824
    @davidfrank2824 3 года назад +1

    My friend I thought you were insane when you said you were going to build it. You really did a great job on this. I've never even thought about something like that and I sure in the hell would not have known how to build it. Great job

  • @terrymiller9647
    @terrymiller9647 3 года назад +1

    Made in the USA, Mercotac slip ring connectors will transfer up to 500 amps. NO that is not a typo. The one I purchased for a Christmas decoration Ferris Wheel will transfer 50 amps. The best thing about these is they use mercury as the slip ring contacts. THUS, there is NEVER any wear on the rings. I am extremely happy with the one I purchased. Easy to mount, easier to use.
    Thanks for the videos.

    • @trappistachel
      @trappistachel 3 года назад +1

      Got a link to the 50amp one?

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +2

      I did look at their slip rings. They are not cheap and the only one over 30 amps was over $1000 if I recall.

  • @nrs91
    @nrs91 3 года назад +17

    Love the idea, but coiled extension leads need to be fully unwound before drawing high amps.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +1

      Yes, that's standard practice with any extension cord.

    • @wafflezoot
      @wafflezoot 3 года назад +1

      Electromagnet!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +7

      @@wafflezoot Nope. 240v is two 120v phases that are perfectly opposite and cancel each other out.

    • @connorfortune8483
      @connorfortune8483 3 года назад +1

      Same phase just tapped with a neutral in the middle to make it 120

    • @grounded-b937
      @grounded-b937 3 года назад

      @@connorfortune8483 Nope. 180 degrees out of phase. That's why the neutral only carries the difference between the two

  • @tanksoldier9770
    @tanksoldier9770 3 года назад +1

    Nice build , I hope to get a plasma cutter some day , thanks TANK

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      They definitely have a fun factor about them.

  • @1waukesha
    @1waukesha 2 года назад

    You never cease to amaze me with your brilliant mind. Awesome job sir!

  • @owa2533
    @owa2533 2 года назад

    You're too cool man. Respect.

  • @Masso1973
    @Masso1973 3 года назад

    We have 3 phase 400v here, if I do it I’ll use the same gauge as the welder wire as well. Great idea, never even thought about it

  • @GarageofHope
    @GarageofHope 2 года назад

    Awesome. I'm SOOOO tired of dragging my heavy duty extension cord around. I'm building one of these starting right now!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  2 года назад

      This thing has been amazing. It is so nice not to have a huge cord to drag everywhere.

  • @hosslane320
    @hosslane320 Год назад

    Going easy with it , it should do well . I appreciate your time and effort . Thanks for shearing knowledge . Bless ya'll from hooterville , n.c.

  • @itztractorjohn
    @itztractorjohn 3 года назад

    I have been planning to do something like that when my shop gets finished. Nice to see someone else take the time to show it. Saves me some time. 👍

  • @musicauthority7828
    @musicauthority7828 3 года назад

    I did same thing because I have a Jeep P/U with a utility box on it. but I purchased a reel from Harbor Freight. actually two of them one for air and one electrical cord. but they don't automatically reelup because I figured. being as there wasn't anything at end of the cord/hose that would dig into the ground or get caught on anything. I just crank them back into the reels by hand with hand crank. and they were cheap about twenty dallors each which is always a factor. then mounted them at the back of the utility box so they swing out for use. it allows me to have a gas powered welder, a gas powered air compressor, and a generator on the truck. and get to areas that I couldn't get close to with the truck.

  • @Marandal
    @Marandal 2 года назад

    That's it!
    i'm building my own!

  • @johnanthony2545
    @johnanthony2545 2 года назад

    Pull about 6 ft of slack out and let it lock. Then back feed slack by hand leaving wheel stationary. Loop slack back on wheel. You have know added spring tension. Need more do it again have one that has to much do same in reverse. Hug advantage of single bracket reels. Takes like 2 minutes maybe. Great vid btw.

  • @FlatThunder
    @FlatThunder 3 года назад

    Fun project I need an extension cord for my welder. The biggest holdup is the expensive wire. If I ever get ahold of an affordable cord I might have to build one. Thanks for sharing 👍

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +1

      I know what you mean. Wire costs are ridiculous.

  • @tuffy16
    @tuffy16 2 года назад

    Wicked! Am looking to build two reels for my welding rig. One for remote and one for 110. A used reel for remote is 1600.00 Canadian !You the man!!!!

  • @orvileknox3130
    @orvileknox3130 3 года назад +2

    Another excellent job. Well done and we'll demonstrated!

  • @jasonbarrett5709
    @jasonbarrett5709 Год назад

    Hey bud, I like your style, its refreshing to noy be the only fixer left. Anyway, I tried to go through your store link. It may need a little tune up. None of the things in this video are listed. I am trying trying to help support you, even if you are a Ford guy. Loved the dash repair and dryer to heater videos! Keep it up!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Год назад +1

      Thanks. I appreciate the support. Generally I put individual links to products and don't put them into the main store. That's just because there are so many items with all the videos I do it would be hard to find.

  • @sparkywow1
    @sparkywow1 Год назад

    I do have an extension cord like what you showed in the beginning, BUT I need it as such, Extension. I need more of a holder, so I can plug it in, go out @ 25 feet and plug in a welder.

  • @wizardofhyd
    @wizardofhyd 2 года назад +1

    Outstanding, what an excellent way to create a retractable extension cord :-)

  • @Just1Spark
    @Just1Spark 3 года назад

    Just fyi, I have the Harbor Freight Titanium 175. I made a 6ft extension cord (220v) using 10ga wire. The welder will only weld for about 1.5seconds then cuts out.
    I remove the extention cord, and it welds perfectly fine.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      Interesting. It is likely polarity sensitive and your Hot/Neutral are swapped.

  • @fryreartechnology7611
    @fryreartechnology7611 3 года назад +2

    80# that's all? Try 3 phase SO cord. We have 150' long cables for our welder. 480VAC 30A is what we want for our welder at work but we use 8/4 SOOW cable to power them. It effect the welder when we have that long of cable. Love your idea!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +2

      I have a 6/4 SOOW 150' cord I never bring out because of weight. I can't imagine how much weight I have there.

  • @wildmanworley
    @wildmanworley 2 года назад

    now that the way to go..... great video

  • @danmay9728
    @danmay9728 3 года назад

    Thanks for the tip, love the dog such a sweerheart. As always be safe. Peace.🇺🇸

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +1

      Hey Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

  • @matthutchinson3139
    @matthutchinson3139 3 года назад

    Hey, don’t know what’s going on with RUclips, it never showed up in my subscriptions , found video on RUclips home page. As for China and electric cords and wires, as a Asst. State Fire Marshal we found that China meets UL codes for exterior width diameter for all wiring but they reduce the size of wire down inside the casing. That why you have over heating of extension cords and any kind of lighting, which always causes fires at xmas time because people leave lights on for ever. Anytime in need wires and cords always go to City Electric contractor supply and make my own. Always enjoy, keep them coming

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      I know what you mean. They really cheap out on wiring and I don't like any wires from China. If they're not aluminum they're copper coated in aluminum just to save a fraction of a penny. My main cord is SOOW USA made 8/4.

  • @tblbaby
    @tblbaby 3 года назад +1

    that's a convenience! Nice.

  • @lewiemcneely9143
    @lewiemcneely9143 3 года назад +1

    Heeler-isms. Ginger will be bouncing up and getting the 220 for you. Might better keep the breaker off. The only 220 here on a chord is for the pump to generator on a DPDT to disconnect from line voltage. It stays wound up on the generator, ready to go. Glad you're set and GBWYall!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      Train her to bring me the cord end.

    • @lewiemcneely9143
      @lewiemcneely9143 3 года назад +1

      @@sixtyfiveford That'll work! BETTER, even!

  • @jerrywilder9403
    @jerrywilder9403 3 года назад +1

    That really looks great Sir got an extra reel that air hose fitting was damaged new fitting is way too much from coxreel so making it electrical is a great answer I’ll just need one of those slip rings thanks brother

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +3

      A Cox reel is built as 100x better than this cheap thing I used.

    • @jerrywilder9403
      @jerrywilder9403 3 года назад +1

      @@sixtyfiveford yeah it is a great reel yours works

  • @LujinCustom
    @LujinCustom 2 года назад

    Very neat. I’m actually doing the door LEDs from your video on that. Just waiting for HF to put a salt on the 5500 lumen fixtures. I also put the reel on a smart switch and put an old Echo Dot on the ceiling

  • @charlesangell_bulmtl
    @charlesangell_bulmtl 3 года назад

    Air reel from Harbor Freight was my solution to the weld leads also, I just leave the plug ends loose at side opposite the rotating mount side during the reel/unreel.
    If I get tired of that I guess I'll have to build some suitable sliprings.

  • @not2fast4u2c
    @not2fast4u2c 3 года назад +1

    That is a Great idea If I took that cover off the spring would have jumped out and attacked me

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +1

      I know where you're coming from. The first time I took it off I was very careful.

    • @OldSneelock
      @OldSneelock 3 года назад +1

      I was thinking the same thing.
      I have had a couple tape measure run ins. 😁😎

    • @not2fast4u2c
      @not2fast4u2c 3 года назад +1

      @@OldSneelock It is funny if no one gets hurt

    • @OldSneelock
      @OldSneelock 3 года назад +1

      @@not2fast4u2c You are so right. When they break it is like a razor blade flying around.

  • @TheShadeTreeFixitMan
    @TheShadeTreeFixitMan 3 года назад +1

    Another slick trick. Thanks Moe.

  • @wheelin66bronco
    @wheelin66bronco 3 года назад

    Great video, found this because I'm wanting to build a reel similar. Thumbs up!

  • @rong2578
    @rong2578 3 года назад

    Another great video, I always look forward to seeing new videos from you on what you are building in the garage.

  • @hboozel
    @hboozel 3 года назад

    great idea, just wish you had a bolt together design for those of us that don't have a welder

  • @dm13limited52
    @dm13limited52 3 года назад

    Thanks for the problem solving ideas, this is one that I can use.

  • @jimanddiana4103
    @jimanddiana4103 3 года назад

    Really helpful, very inventive. Thanks!

  • @Mike-xt2ot
    @Mike-xt2ot 3 года назад +1

    Another great tip!!! Thanks brother.

  • @tallokie67
    @tallokie67 3 года назад +1

    Before you added the wire to the reel, I think you could have wound the reel a few more turns to get more pre-load on the spring. I've had to do it before even with just the hose. I can't remember how much more it can be wound before the spring is maxed out tho.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +2

      I gave it two more wraps last night. You need to use it for a while to let the clock spring settle in but I may be able to get away with doing another one or two wraps.

  • @NickHorvath
    @NickHorvath 3 года назад +1

    Blue tape can't disguise that harbor freight hose reel. :) You can probably give it an extra wind to make that last 6 feet retract easier. the instruction book says how but basically pull it out one turn then manually feed the cord around the reel (you'll have to take your end off again).

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +1

      It's blue tape brand. It's so cheaply made I didn't want to endorse it. I have their higher end Red Diablo that I thought was cheap, but they were out of those when I went in. It first look they look to be made the exact same but this yellow one has a few more corners cut to save a few cents. I t should hold up fine, but if not I'll beef it up. But I did give it 2 extra winds last night. The cord is also so heavy it takes a second for the reel to pick up momentum, then it seems to do fine. I thought I would get an extra air hose. Nope, the hose was so cheap that came with this one. The rubber was so soft and uncured it stuck to other parts of the hose when reeled up and ripped holes in itself when unwinding. So the brand new hose has around 5 holes in it and I've never aired it up. I'm taking just the hose back to HF today to see if they'll give me a new hose.

    • @NickHorvath
      @NickHorvath 3 года назад

      @@sixtyfiveford the hose must be hit or miss on these then, I have 2 of them and they work great (couldn't resist $60 coupon).

  • @AndrewBrowner
    @AndrewBrowner 3 года назад +1

    since you have half the length of wire vs the air hose that was on there you could crank that clock spring up a half dozen turns so it winds in better

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +1

      I actually put 50 ft of wire on the 50 ft hose reel so the exact same. The clock spring needs to be pulled out a couple times just to so it settles. But then I will do a couple extra winds and it'll work way better.

    • @AndrewBrowner
      @AndrewBrowner 3 года назад

      @@sixtyfiveford oh wow thats a good set up then,looked like alot less than 50', you buy the cords premade online or did you find a spool of wire for cheap?
      in canada was cheaper for me to buy the cord than just order the wire alone

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      @@AndrewBrowner Yeah I salvaged 135 ft from a boat dock last year. But in the past when I've needed heavy guage extension cords I would buy the old Lincoln stick welders. The people would include the cords for no cost and then I would just resell the welder and have $200-300 worth of free cord.

  • @chrisforeman7248
    @chrisforeman7248 3 года назад

    I just did this with a manual garden hose reel. Might have to do this idea I didn't know about the slip ring

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +2

      Awesome. Garden hose reel is far better than hand manipulating these cords.

  • @Hellsong89
    @Hellsong89 Год назад

    I would add brush and licker into the spool if this was used other than cleanish shop. Say work truck environment on the jobsite get licker so cable wont pull in all the mud and dirt to spool. Could use same thing for air hose as well.

  • @tkskagen
    @tkskagen 3 года назад

    Great Idea! Awesome Inexpensive Project Idea...🤔

  • @mattbentley8958
    @mattbentley8958 3 года назад

    Crimping is better then solder for this application. And in many cases us preferably to crimp instead if soldering.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      Yes and no. Crimping is better in high vibration situations where the length of the cord can't be supported. Crimping gives up a perfect connection though and can cause heat build up at the crimp joints. Soldering will have no heat build up at the wire joints under heavy duty applications like I'm using it for. Crimping would be fine in household wiring where the wires are so overrated that they're not pushed to the limits of their gauge.

  • @backwoodsengineer
    @backwoodsengineer 3 года назад

    I’m jealous I didn’t think of this. Great idea.

  • @jasonrucker9712
    @jasonrucker9712 10 месяцев назад

    great job, great build,

  • @MyDIYAdventures
    @MyDIYAdventures 3 года назад

    Another great build! And I love your dog, my dog just gets in the way in videos😂

  • @8Jory
    @8Jory 3 года назад

    There are spools like this that are meant to be used for water hoses. They have a stronger spring so should have more pull and be a bit more robust.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      Very true. I need to run it in and out a few dozen times to settle the clock spring. Then I can easily tighten it.

  • @shorttermhobbyist
    @shorttermhobbyist 3 года назад +1

    cool project! i think i like the reel retracting a little slower... my air hose screams back in and sure as sh*t there will me a little shard of metal stuck to it and it will slice my hand as it retreats to its wall cave

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      I've used it quite a bit now and the slower speed has been nice. I know if I let go of my air hose it would likely cause some damage.

  • @IROCKID
    @IROCKID 3 года назад +1

    That’s pretty cool.

  • @Brigantine2008
    @Brigantine2008 3 года назад +1

    Nice build 🇺🇸

  • @kiddiescripterkiller
    @kiddiescripterkiller 3 года назад +1

    Even if it runs on 14ga wire... the farther you go the more voltage drop you get, so it starts screwing with your settings... You want to check charts and see what guage wire you need for the length and current draw. You can test it... Plug in to wall, weld, then plug into a 50' cord, then a 100' cord, without messing with your settings and you will see a difference... especially on your lower welding settings like you use for sheet metal.
    And as a hobbyist, I have run my welder building things where the welder shut off after welding non stop because it got too hot and I had to wait for it to cool down.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      I would never power a welder with 14awg over any distance. If that's how it came across that was not my intention. A 120v 20amp welder does well on a 12awg cord up to around 100' max. A 240v 50amp welder would do 12awg up to around 25feet.

    • @kiddiescripterkiller
      @kiddiescripterkiller 3 года назад

      @@sixtyfiveford I mentioned 14ga because I think you said (without rewatching the video) one of your welders or one you owned, only had 14 ga wire in the welder cord. And some people not familiar with how electricity works, might get the wrong idea. Or for that matter, know that there are charts to calculate the wire size for the amps and length you are trying to get to.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      @@kiddiescripterkiller The problem is that 99% of all the charts you see are wrong. They are for household 100% duty cycle appliances. Out of twenty 240v 50 amp welders I've owned all but 2 had 14awg wire. The other two had 12awg and they could have been aluminum wire. You can get away with so much when you have a welder with a duty cycle of 20 to 30% at max output. On 10awg You can run them 100 ft without any issue but every single chart out there will tell you you cannot because they are based on NEC code for 100% duty cycle

    • @kiddiescripterkiller
      @kiddiescripterkiller 3 года назад

      @@sixtyfiveford True... But if you aren't sure of what you are doing, it is better to be safe than sorry... That is why the charts are rated that way.
      Or if you use the cord for something other than a welder. Like for example, if you decided to use your welder extension cord to feed power to your neighbors house during an emergency. Been there done that... His generator quit working, I didn't have the parts to fix it for him, so I fed him 220 off my generator.
      That is why the charts are setup like that. Granted the charts even at that point, are oversized, but they are calculated so you don't overheat the cable and cause a fire.
      That is why the charts take in to account the wire size / length / type / insulation / ambient temperature, if is or isn't in a conduit, the size / type of the conduit, recommended junction box sizes, etc...

  • @tylorcolston9175
    @tylorcolston9175 3 года назад +1

    If there was enough "room" on the clock spring you could always clock it a few Revolutions tighter and it would help with the retracting aspect. Not too much tho or you won't be able to unwind fully and could break the spring all together . But like you said , inexpensive hoss reel

  • @cb84capri
    @cb84capri 3 года назад

    Great idea and awesome execution!

  • @Fatamus
    @Fatamus 3 года назад

    Fantastic idea thanks I'll definitely going to use the it

  • @JDeWittDIY
    @JDeWittDIY 3 года назад +2

    Do the main coils of the extension cord heat up at all after welding? I'm not talking about the spinner component, but the actual coiled extension cord itself. If you were using this for something other than welding, something with a high current draw for sustained periods of time, I'd be concerned about the extension cord melting together and shorting. You can search for "melted coiled extension cord" if you want to see some fun pictures! Awesome project!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +2

      No heat at all with my test runs. I was actually trying to heat it up. There's just so much down time with welding it'll never be a concern. Any cord reel though should be unwound to allow cooling during heavy use though. In the unlikely scenario that I want to run a portable stove in my garage I would be limited to a 30amp 100% duty cycle of the slip ring.

    • @wozzlebaby5313
      @wozzlebaby5313 2 года назад

      @@sixtyfiveford looks like you finally did just that. Once we upgrade the dryer in our home, I might duplicate what you did! Love the explanation about the duty cycle...always wondered why the old Lincoln welders had a 50 amp breaker but only specified 10ga wire. The more you know!

  • @unclemarksdiyauto
    @unclemarksdiyauto 3 года назад

    What a super idea idea!

  • @jeremiahkastner6374
    @jeremiahkastner6374 Год назад

    THANK YOU.

  • @brynyard
    @brynyard 3 года назад

    Oh btw, another reason a lot of electricians are a bit skeptical to welders on normal domestic circuits is that they are usually Class A (or whatever it is over there) that doesn't have enough back EMF and noise shielding (mostly because it can't properly remove all noise effectively) for any delicate equipment, so if you're a bit unlucky it might take out your TV or amplifier. Had a friend getting his expensive tube amp wrecked by a TIG welder (the HF start is very noisy), but arching when welding with MIG and stick can also create quite a bit of noise.
    I'm running mine through an isolation transformer, but there's still a bit of noise from it.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      Very true. Well said.

    • @waltschannel7465
      @waltschannel7465 3 года назад

      Oh Boy! I have a lot of sensitive electronics. Maybe I don't want to weld at my house... 🙄🤔 My welders are all linear transformer type, not switch mode inverter type. Wouldn't the transformers in the welders isolate the noise? What about a heavy duty buck converter using a toroid and tons of capacitance?

    • @brynyard
      @brynyard 3 года назад

      @@waltschannel7465 Transformers isolate noise quite well, the meatier the better.
      The problem is with switch mode, it has quite spiky high frequency noise, and the self adapting nature (and ability to modify the output current rapidly) makes it return quite a bit of noise to the grid. Just adding large caps will (unintuitively) actually just make it worse, it has to be a properly designed filter, which is expensive and therefore often skimped on. Just having a huge 1:1 transformer in between will get rid of most of the noise.
      Some info on designing PSU caps:
      ruclips.net/video/qosClvn9GqU/видео.html

  • @Lanninglongarmmowing
    @Lanninglongarmmowing 3 года назад

    Genius!! Great idea.

  • @Fireship1
    @Fireship1 3 года назад

    Nice engineering Moe!

  • @turnndirt5486
    @turnndirt5486 3 года назад +1

    Sweeeeeet idea, thank you

  • @MrVailtown
    @MrVailtown 3 года назад

    Your da man .
    Love that Dog !

  • @machinistwanttobebrianfrom6887
    @machinistwanttobebrianfrom6887 3 года назад

    Brian from Ma.Great Video love it Besafe

  • @sokraal
    @sokraal 3 года назад

    Good content. You got yourself a sub mister.

  • @F5Tornado44
    @F5Tornado44 3 года назад +2

    Could you have wound the spring a little tighter? It looks like there were quite a few more turns available.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад +2

      Yes I added two extra winds last night.

    • @Impuritan1
      @Impuritan1 3 года назад +1

      I was wondering the same. I’d like to make one of these as I don’t mind getting dirty, sweating and wearing myself out when building something, but having to roll up that cord just pisses me off for some reason.

  • @agguilarmetalwork4494
    @agguilarmetalwork4494 3 года назад

    Thanks great info 👍🏻

  • @2LateIWon
    @2LateIWon 3 года назад

    Awesome idea Love it

  • @viniciusnoyoutube
    @viniciusnoyoutube 3 года назад +1

    Very cool.

  • @topgrom
    @topgrom Год назад +1

    This is a great idea. Have any idea how I can do this with a regular extension cord?

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Год назад

      Generally it's cheaper to buy a premade one for a regular 16,14 or 12awg extension cord.

  • @imtryanmybest
    @imtryanmybest 3 года назад

    Yeah I had my builder put in a 220v plug in my garage. They put a 4 prong in but only a 15 amp 120v breaker in the panel. 🙄🙃

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      Strange. Not sure what device you could run off a 15amp 220v circuit.

  • @mrdddeeezzzweldor5039
    @mrdddeeezzzweldor5039 Год назад

    I found that the springs on the cheap-o hose reels are crap and weaken up with repeated use. Assuming it's because they are not proper spring steel or not properly heat treated. An issue with running higher currents through smaller gauge wiring is voltage drop due to resistivity. Short runs are likely not a problem but it really adds up over long runs and that will affect your welder, plasma cutter, etc. Cool hack nonetheless!

  • @crossbow3539
    @crossbow3539 3 года назад

    Now you gotta get a reel for that air hose

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  3 года назад

      Don't worry the air hose was from Harbor Freight and had five holes new out of the box. So it's trash.

  • @witherow321
    @witherow321 3 года назад

    I would be curious how this holds up the bearing and spring are not designed for that much weight but is a neat idea to build one on a budget

  • @catherineharris4746
    @catherineharris4746 2 года назад

    Fkng Outstanding!👍👍👍👍👍