TFS: Cheap DIY Downdraft Grinding Table
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2019
- This is definitely one of those tools that made me feel stupid for not building or buying years and years ago. It's so nice inside the shop now with no dust and junk all over the floor and I feel ten times better at the end of the day. You should seriously consider it.
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Now you have built it you can use it as a head porting flow table and test the flow of each port in a cylinder head . A simple hand held air flow meter will work with a bit of grease to seal the head to the table .
The best way for most guys to do this is go to a junkyard. You can find something that you can convert into such a table. At my junk yard they often have Stainless steel deli tables. you could easily Convert something instead of fabricating from scratch
You put a keypad on your grinding table so that what? Nobody turns on the table? What do you work at home depot? 😑👎
"I love how quiet these fans are!"
On a grinding table....
Let that sink in for minute lol
Cocaine is one hell of a drug
yeah but imagine if they were louder than grinder :D
Be mad not to want any extra noise in the factory! You might be one of those ‘be proud, make it loud’ type guys?! 🤦🏽♂️
Decibles add up, they don't override or cancel eachother out. The more you can reduce, the less damaging it is.
If you are grinding a lot of pieces with downtime between pieces, you can leave the fans running and still hear yourself think... ::shrug::
Here's a tip if you ever find yourself in need of a knarley fan. Hit up your local HVAC company. They usually have junk units stacked up like cord wood and commercial units have huge air handlers in them. A home furnace air handle would have been smaller with similar or more power, perfect if you need to scale down for a smaller shop. Thanks so much for making this!
“If you’ve ever priced out stainless steel, you know you’ll choose aluminum” 😂
That's like when people ask me if I drink, having lost my pride year's ago, I alway's reply, only if your buying. ;->)
I guess it's a thing on RUclips to repeat lines from the video .
I dont understand ?
@@Goofy948 Ever quote a movie?
@@Goofy948 it seems to be a thing, unfortunately these people havent figured out how to do the timestamp thingy yet.
@@ixamraxi
Maybe once
“1, 2, 3, 4, 5?! That’s the same combination I have on my luggage! “
Love the references. This was epic.
The Schwartz is strong with this one. Very killer build and very unique.
Glad to see you are concerned about your health. From experience use ear protection for everything. Finally got my hearing checked after 25+ years in construction- circular saws, reciprocating saws, air compressors, hammer drills, angle grinders, nail guns, bench grinders, cut-off saws etc...Turns out I can't hear much of anything out of my right ear (basically deaf in it) and I lost the ability to hear certain frequencies in my left, the same frequencies that my daughters voice sometimes hits, while yes it sounds humorous... it is ,to me, sad... I don't know how much I have missed in conversations with her! I use plugs and muffs now trying to save what little hearing I have left. SIDE BENEFIT, I wish I would have used muffs years ago, turns out idiots don't try to talk to you when you have them on..makes it easier to ignore them and not appear rude!
Very sorry to read that, it is one of the things that can creep up on you without realising as the brain and ear partially compensate for the loss - and by the time you realise there is a problem it is far, far too late.
For you, it is an unfortunate, classic example of what I tell the kids who don't think it matters "do you want to be able to hear the laughter of your grandchildren at play?"
Personally, I used the ear muffs I could find - left ear canal is quite small and most plugs don't fit - and after working in many noisy industries and around noisy engines, when I had my hearing checked a few years ago, in my mid fifties, they were really surprised just how good it still was - better, they thought, than many of the teenagers who were tested who listened to music on earbuds - I've know quite a few who listen at volume levels high enough for my to identify their 'music' from another room, FFS! It helps that when I do listen to music, etc, I do tend to have the volume well down - well, mostly... - especially at night when the radio volume is easy to hear yet so low that I can have problems hearing it during the day over normal background sounds.
Snowflakes..
@@dontblameme6328 Twat...
Your making up for it with long conversation here
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Thank you.
So I learned a few things for my build. Namely, the filters and what the bare minimum filtration "level" you would need. It's rated in MERV and for shop dust, or powder coating dust, you'd need at least a MERV 14 filter.
I didn't watch it all the way through, but nice BBQ mate 🤣🤣🤣
Lol bro i use a old grill cabinet as a rolling shop table and had that same idea of leaving the top on one adding a vacumm and having a grinder table
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 nice!! Multi tool aha
LoL ...
I love the pedal work whilst kneeling and tacking up! Poetry in motion!
Yup. I think finger control comes in handy in situations like this
I only grind lead so the dust is heavy enough to fall straight to the ground.
Air filter schmilter.
I just smoke ciggies to filter the air so it's clean, and any toxins are burned by the heat.
It's a win/win.
As a German industrial mechanic and future engineer I really appreciate your design, craftsmanship and dedication to quality. It looks really nice besides it totally suck 👌🏻
Thank you for this! My grandfather was a welder and related or not lung cancer took him out as a no smoker. He lived a full life and by no means died young but you showing this and how with basic shop things people can do this is neat.
I am in awe at the quality of your work and bench. Hats off to you.
Justin, this is one of your best videos. I love the idea and I think I can change the concept for myself enough that I can do it even cheaper. I wish I had some of your new equipment. Your success is well deserved.
Nice work, like the how to’s at the start for those without expensive machinery. Love your pedal technique - this is why I have a button on my torch as well as I’m nowhere near as agile as you are. 👍😁
I like your excitement at 16:00. This is the kinda stuff that keeps me motivated!
great job, this is going to be a great upgrade to many home shops, thanks for taking the time to make the video!
Throw your chop saw on it when cutting. It will contain the chips and also get you off your knees.
You might need to change your side shields but you could easily make side pods to support longer metal.
I was totally thinking this as he was kneeling on the floor with the chop saw, lol.
That's a good suggestion
I love the staying "There's no tight or wrong way"... thanks for another awesome video 👍👍
Hey Justin, that is a great looking, well functioning table!
I really like the look of the hidden fastenings on the front and side panels!
Your new shop is really coming together!
Keep up the good work!
Cheers Aaron
Think I would have used a 1 hour, twisting timer switch for lighting, instead of the keypad. less bother to turn on, and cant be left on all night if I'm careless.
My favorite fab channel! Keep up the good work, we're very grateful, thanks!
Jason, I see a new video, I press like! Great video as always. Air quality is important to those of us that work around fumes everyday.
The table had a lovely sound as well. Could listen to it all day.
Justin,
I went to Airco Welding Tech in Oakland,Ca in '84. Got out of it a few years later. As of '18, I'm WFO! Tuned up your vids first & was hooked again! Your a Pro & deliver well, Thank You Brau! I Am currently building your Downdraft Table, with an added blower on the side with a hose & funnel set up!
Thanks Again!
Don M.
Illinois
Great video. Sweet little project. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.
Love the diy stuff. Thank you for the ideas and demonss. This is awesome. Also, great use of the Schwartz
Your surrounded by air holes🕳 while using that table. Nice work!
Awesome creative solution. I can’t thank you enough for sharing. That was a really fun ride...... Joel
So cool Justin! Thanks for the ideas. I need to build something now
Beautiful build! I will definitely look back to this the day I build something similar, but it's going to have some storage space in there
This video was as professional as it gets. Very impressive if you are doing it solo....just as impressive if there is a team putting it together.
(We also enjoyed the irony of a table being made for the sake of health....and then a dude coming up with dragon lungs to give it the stamp of approval. Long live Dragon Lung!).
One key Bonus is this could be left on in a small shop to scrub your air. Great work!
This is a great looking table. I'm not trying to be "that guy" but I encourage you to use a particle counter to test to see if you are filtering the dust or just blowing most of the small particles through the filter and fan. It's easy to miss the really fine dust because it is too small to see. This is certainly a lot better than no filtration but if you get a particle counter you will see that your shop still gets way over healthy limits. Amazon sells air quality meters for around $150 now. That would be enough to know what is working and what's not.
I've done a lot of filtration testing, including testing with box fans and filters and I can say for sure that you won't get good flow AND efficient filtration with just one filter. You will need much more filter area and higher-grade filters to get good flow and good filtration using a box fan. A squirrel cage blower develops around 5x more pressure than a box fan so you can use multiple stage filtration which is a good idea when you are filtering high concentrations of dust.
That is an awesome looking table.
What brand of air quality meter would you recommend? (From a cost vs. accuracy standpoint? I’m on a bit of a budget.)
Thanks for the interesting comment. 👍
@@mxcollin95 I use a Dylos DC1100 pro with a computer interface so I can log particle counts over time. It's not a professional grade particle counter but it works well and doesn't cost $$4,000. There have been a lot of new air quality monitors come on the market since I bought the Dylos 4 years ago so you can probably find something less expensive now. Formaldehyde and VOCs are also common pollutants in workshops and some of the new meters measure those also.
I check particle counts outside to use as a reference. With my air filtration system my shop air typically registers at about 1/10th the particle counts compared to outside air.
Shop Hacks thank you very much for the info!
if It's not filtering the dust, The fan will fry after about two weeks of heavy use. Ask me how I know.
Well done , 👍🏻 and great work on the video , personally I know how hard it is to make these kinds of videos let alone edit them . So great job and thank you 🙏🏻
Ironically I just put Spaceballs on the tv for my wife and then started watching this with my headphones on. So I had to stop and tell her why I was cracking up.
Quality work and great instruction, like always.
It's hard to beat great suction, nice build pal.
Really top video! I especially like the part where you're just totally stoked about getting it finished
Awesome,the small tabs that holds the filter is just cool simple and functional,👍
You have a good channel, glad I found it. Thanks for the ideas.
Beautiful table and workmanship!
I was also one of the people that said those fans pulled a good amount of vacuum but make almost zero pressure on the positive side. The reason this works is because you did it right for that type of fan, filter on the vacuum side with a proper duct(just like mech fan from a car). source - Mech engineer
BTW been watching your channel since you were in the tan garage with the Harley. Definitely cool to see the operation grow like this. always makes me feel like i can go out and build whatever i dream up
This is great idea. In a workshop that does this all the time this is an important piece.
i think i am now addicted to your channel ..... you sir ROCK and i am as green of a fabricator/welder as you can get and decided to take on the challenge of building a truck rack for my rig wish you were closer id love to take your courses ... cheers from north of the boarder
That table is Sick AF. And the added bonus of Spaceballs references made it fun to watch.
Nice job as always ! I am picturing a chop saw table with fans 😃
Time to change that combination lock on my luggage... fantastic job there and it’s going in my list of things to make.
Great idea! I'll have to make a mini version of this for a small garage.
Thanks for the idea!
Very nice build! Thanks for sharing, love your channel. The only things I'd add would be a flexible light, and maybe a 4" deep shelf on the back.. it'd be a place to put your safety glasses, or whatever else. It'd be super easy to build and complete the table. A 50 or 100 watt led light is less than $30 and super bright.
Great. A useful addition to any shop well filmed
Love all the Spaceballs references! Haha. Great build!
That was a slick project. I like the homage to Space Balls.
Nice work Justin! just like the way you build things cheers
Thanks for such a great idea! This is a perfect solution for my small garage workshop.
Best regards from Russia.
Astounding! I have the same combination for my dust collector!
Very cool and functional. Great job, very clean.
Nice idea. If I decide to build one I was thinking bbq grills for the work surface. Your right about the fans amazingly effective!
Congrats, job well done! I am Feeling inspired. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
That's an amazing build man. Gonna have to make one of them!
This is my favorite thing I’ve seen built on the channel.
Nice work! Now you've got me thinking about how to build one of these on a Red Green budget. I'm thinking of a gas grille with the burners torched out and a kitchen exhaust fan or two where the drip tray used to be.
I'll watch that video 🤣
Im doing it as we speak
Take the lid off an old stainless BBQ that you pick up for free on the roadside.... Comes with grates, just add the bottom stuff, back catch & anti fatigue matt. Then figure out ducting... Bam!
@@TheFabricatorSeries Would an old washing machine or dryer shell work too?
no doute to late now but kitchen exhaust fan i have found to be as useful as a fart in a spacesuit!!
Wow! That was super clean!
Very nice work Justin
Your build quality is top notch!
Awesome build! Now for some reason I feel I NEED one!
Great video, I like the enthusiasm making things better as you go. That's how I am I get all excited with a plan in my head and making it better as I go. Real neat project!
Thanks for the video, I loved it! Simple, effective and low cost....
Cool table! 6:23 Everything is so organized and clean, then there's that hanging electric cover..
Love the build and spaceballs references!
Good show. Think I might make one, with smaller turbo fans. Great idea. Thanks.
Thanks. I didn't realise I wanted a down draught table, until now. 😁
Same here, I don't even own a grinder or a welder yet 😂😂
Love the SpaceBalls references buddy hahaha well done!
Dude, I love your channel and I love this table
Very creative work, thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Great table! Love the Spaceballs stuff!
This is a cool project and dude, its sooo clean!!!
I'm telling you; you're the guy that people aspire to be like! I'm not a professional welder/fabricator, but you seriously motivate me to do better
Definitely looks like something our shop could use. We currently use the top of the welding table which is 1/2" steel plate, no slots or holes, tucked in a corner with 10" on each side from the walls. Makes for lots of metal grinding dust in the floor, table, rod rack, anything in the vicinity.
Very cool project, loved it!!!!. Great job
The Spaceballs reference got you a sub. Awesome vid 😎
Love the stoke! great project
CAD
Cardboard Aided Design
PROJECT BINKY ! :D
That's the same CAD version I use 🤣
@@aaronyoung5876 that's only version I can AFFORD!
"Cardboard Aided Design", from Collin Furze video?
I have a normal household Cat.
@@fila1445 In Colour!
I created a dimple die with old bearing races and my hydraulic bearing press
Do you have any pictures anywhere of this setup?
I'd love to see this as well
You have some mad skills .
Looks awesome !
How am I ever going to get out of my lazy boy and make something with folks creating amazing stuff like this. That was down right cool.
You could add blades to the existing fan blades... Thanks for this video. I just finished building mine. I like the the mat and the hinged sides.
This is a cool idea. I didn’t know they made such a thing but yours looks freakin awesome. Showing the clouds getting vac-u-sucked was good to.
Awesome build, really enjoyed that.
Nice work Justin!
Thanks Jimbo!
Definitely clean these out. Had one explode at a place I worked at. The explosion from metal powder sucked air into the wear house so quick I could feel and hear the building breath and man it was loud. The sanding operator had burns all over his arms hands and beard was burnt like hell. Burnt the latex gloves down to the rolled up ends at the wrist that was all that was left Paper sleeves were also gone.
Bad ass man. You showed them nay sayers. And it’s frikin awesome!
That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!
That's amazing! I have the same combination on my luggage!
Been watching this on IG great to see the whole thing one hit great idea wish I had a garage or workshop so I have a good excuse to build one
cool build, Justin!!!! I’m inspired!
Great job man ! Looks clean and works great !
Excellent! I think the only thing I would change would be to extend the raised grill to the right hand side in place of the drop down side. Keep the left side hinged, but make the right an air intake too as the majority of the sparks are heading that way due to the direction of the grinder rotation.
The vape test was very helpful!
my Favorite one yet, would be perfect in our small shop
That's amazing! That's the same combination I have on my luggage
About the tenth time I've watched this,going to make a smaller version for my little shop.