Right? And not only did she spend so much time in that relationship, they started dating as teens. I'm sure there is a lot of co-dependency and feeling trapped like they can't breakup. Lack of dating experience can make it very scary, but she really needs to get out!
I'm just saying, if that was me on the couch, they'd have had to put up a card that read "we now bring you a segment called "Hongo walks around holding his head in his fingertips"". Because that's what I was doing for about five minutes after Shayne finished reading that story.
The “he’s the first boyfriend I’ve ever had” truly smashed my heart into a million pieces, poor sweetheart doesn’t know any better and doesn’t know she’s worth so much more than that and deserves so much better than him. I know it’s hard, but love, he’s not worth it.
The fact that she 25, they have been together for 8 years and friends for 2 years before that! They were teens, 15 years old. That poor girl needs a friend to help her see her worth and take her out for fun.
The fact that he’s her first boyfriend and they’ve been together for 8 years and she is afraid of dating “at this age” Is baffling. Like now at 25 is the perfect time for her to START dating. She never has dated before. She really shouldn’t stay in this relationship any longer because the longer it goes on the stronger that fear becomes. And I wonder if they’re in a small town because of my gosh there are sooooo many people out there she could meet and someone will be better for her and she won’t know until she starts. It’s sad that she worries no one will love her, and she hasn’t even started to explore. It’ll be an adjustment but it needs to happen.
My vengeful ass would have started recording their conversation, waited until they returned and then stood up with a clink of my glass to make a big announcement, say some lovey dovey stuff about how much I adore my boyfriend, and how long we had been together, and then say I wanted to play a little something special for him, then play the recording hooked up to the Bluetooth speaker. Let the guest tear him apart. Let the friend he'd been in love with be utterly disgusted by him, just go nuclear with the whole thing.
@@Prolillg I would have kicked the damn door down and demanded he repeated everything he just said to my face. That’s snake behavior right there. Dude sounds like a pill.
@@Prolillg Nice for a book or smt but I'd probably be so shocked to think about a comeback like that. I'd probably just lock myself and cry, stay there and wait for the person to get out and see that I've heard the conversation or just leave and go stay at my mother's or a friend's house.
That's not what he said at all though. He says that his eye was drawn in the other girl's direction first. It's understandable for this to be hurtful, but it should have such little bearing on their relationship. Superficial attraction is such an over hyped part of a relationship and that becomes clear when you actually love someone because you see them as the most beautiful person in the world. Of course in order to start a relationship with someone there's typically some attraction there, but there's so few people that would say they started a relationship because they saw the single most beautiful person they'd ever seen and the few relationships like that are built on a very fickle foundation.
@@timlong4791you typed this long ass paragraph just to be talking about a completely different thing. did you even watch the whole video before commenting this? delete this
The difference is that traditional alcoholics will drink regardless of if anyone joins them. Social alcoholics want others to join in so they don't feel singled out, but they can be real assholes if you don't join in. They usually know what their behavior is like because they see it in others, so they want everyone to be plastered so they won't be judged. The irony is how judgemental they are if you don't drink. It doesn't matter if it's a personal choice or a medical one.
Right? It's so wild. I have friends that don't drink and I've never even asked them why. And I actually really cherish hanging out with them because they are a good influence on me!
Yeah, you can tell that he genuinely went to AITA to figure out if he was in the wrong. I feel like most of the time people post there specifically for their own validation. Good on him
@@thepineapplequeen489 his friends could have peer pressured him "it's fine all her other friends are here and you're always with her anyway" "bro you'll be here after the party let her have fun with HER friends and come out with us"
Especially considering the level of maturity this guy seems to have. They’ve been together for eight years and he still regrets not asking their mutual friend out? That is such teenage horse shit. He seems to be very obsessed with this mutual friend and has probably held out for her for 8 years. And now he believes he has no other choice but to marry his girlfriend who he doesn’t even like. She deserves way better and shouldn’t stay with him.
@@BostonMBrand this is the thing I don’t understand with dudes like this. JUST DUMP HER. Why is he wasting both of their time by staying in a relationship that he doesn’t even want????
Broke my heart as I literally almost was this girl myself. Thankfully he dumped me over not being able to get over our mutual friend and didn’t waste years of my life. She needs to get away from him. That guy will never love her back
@BostonMBrand not to mention his reasons seemed shallow... he didn't mention her personality. Almost like he had this idea about how she is. But doesn't really know her.
As someone who goes to parties where there’s never alcohol, if you can’t have fun then either change the vibes or don’t be there. Don’t rely on being drunk to have fun.
Agreed. I really turned off Reddit channels pretty quickly, just felt like it'd be easier to read the stories myself. No one does it like this. Love the discussions and revolving guests
I feel like they really overlooked the friend that said “Jaime didn’t go for the hot one” to the girlfriend and Jaime! How did he not immediately go off on that friend for disrespecting his gf. If my bfs friend said something like that and he didn’t defend me I’d be seriously rethinking the whole relationship. Doesn’t matter if it was “true” or not.
For real though. If Jamie really did like Kate and was okay with her and their life, then what a shit friend to bring that up at all. Even drunk, that's almost deliberate shit-stirring.
Yeah, if a "friend" made a comment like that in front of my wife, we would definitely have problems 😅. Drunk or not, he's a coward for not putting her feelings first and shutting that sh¡t down immediately.
Yeah they needed a woman on this episode. Kate got done DIRTY and frankly OP not being pissed and her bf not being pissed says Kate needs better fuckin friends and to get away from all these people. I hope to God she says no when he proposes.
You do an episode about siblings and bring on one person who is an only child and one who has siblings. Would love to see different reactions between the two.
Well Shayne has siblings (although not sure on if its a close or large age gap) so the guest with the siblings should have the opposite age gap. My sister and I are one year apart and I've found siblings close in age relate differently to those with big age gaps. More petty rivalries etc for obvious reasons haha
@@bondickle I don't think Shayne's brothers are that much older, I know they're his half brothers so that definitely separates them by a few years but he's also told stories that make it clear his brothers were still at the house when he was young (like the drowning story and the pee on the porch story)
is that not what happens in reality though? you see someone, think theyre attractive, but you dont go up to them to ask them out, and instead get to know someone else and end up with them? i understand the insecurity, but kate needs copious amounts of therapy so she stops tying her self worth to other people.
Ian and Tommy's simultaneous cringe while Shayne was reading the story about the 60yr old couple pestering their friend's daughter to get a boyfriend was all of us.
As a parent of someone who went through their teen years and is now into adulthood, I don't understand how the mother and father saved up and paid $1500 for their child's 16th birthday party, - something the mother said she couldn't even dream of asking for when she was a teen as it's such an extravagance - but they put minimal effort into organising it. I also grew up with parents who scrimped and saved for most of my childhood and teen years, and for my 16th I was allowed to have a party and invite a bunch of friends. My party cost my parents $200 (the equivalent of $400 today) and I thought it was the best! It was held on my parent's rural property, there were copious snacks, hot jacket potatoes for dinner, a bonfire, laughter, and music (from my CD player), and we all fell asleep in tents my friends came with. At every step, my parents asked me what I wanted and involved me in every decision. Did I want decorations? Did I want a cake? What food/drinks did I want there? Did I want to use the plates/glasses/cutlery from home or disposable ones? Did I want Dad to DJ the music or control it myself? My mum and I had a contentious relationship, however, I loved spending that time with her organising it. I found out so much about my mother such as the fact she much like the OP had never had any birthday parties growing up. Unlike the OP though my mother being able to provide that experience for her children was healing for her inner child. With my own child, she wanted an 18th birthday party instead. With all the costs involved, it probably came out to $1200. Just like with me, she was involved in every step of the decision-making, and (because she wanted decorations), she, her friend, and our family helped decorate the rented space three hours prior to the party. It didn't take a lot of effort in hindsight and it meant to world to her. She was smiling from ear to ear the whole time, and her friends gushed over how (my child's name) like it was. It's not the money that's the primary focus. As my mother would say "You only get out what you put in", so because this mother put zero effort into organising this event she paid a decent amount of money for, it turned out to be dull and her daughter was heartbroken over it.
This is exactly what I was thinking! I had a “breakfast at Tiffany’s” themed brunch for my sweet 16 and my mom pulled out all the stops even though it was literally just held in our dining room. She got a teal table runner and white table cloth and made cute centerpieces from ribbons & vases we already had. We made the brunch food together and she surprised me with a cake that looked like a Tiffany box. It was amazing and while it probably wasn’t super cheap, it certainly wasn’t in the $1500 range and it was the best! It’s the care, not the cost.
This sounds exactly like my sweet 16! May in Connecticut, had it in my backyard with a fire, party pizzas and plenty of snacks and food. And we camped outside too - some friends in tents, me and my best friend on the trampoline in a sleeping bag! She is still my best friend to this day! That was such a core memory for me and didn’t cost much
I think US-Americans are just brainwashed by the weird culture about having to spend a lot of money and doing extravagant things. Don't get that at all. I'm German, grew up middle upper/upper class and 200 for a birthday party for a teen is still a really big amount of money, that's not normal at all. Anything over 500 $ seems insane to me, like they're wannabe celebrities or something.
I was at boarding school (on lots of financial aid) for my sweet sixteen, and my parents sent me a party in a box! It's such a sweet memory because my parents had such a thoughtful idea and made me feel their presence even though I was a thousand miles away. I also think the mom in the story could have taught her daughter the lesson by giving her a budget of 1k and letting her plan the party herself. She probably would have put together something really fun and felt really proud!
Girl who was being harassed by adults about her relationship status publicly embarrassing the harassers should definitely not have been scolded by her parents who did nothing to stop the situation. thats crazy to me. who speaks to children like that..
These types of comments are some of the worst you could make to your own child. Like what do they expect, for their daughter to get a boyfriend on command to please them?
@@artorhennot to mention telling her to ignore her gut instincts in order to “give him a chance” that’s literally how and why women are the victims of violence by men. It is so scary that they told her those things. I’m glad she didn’t take any of it to heart.
For real. I usually like to draw while listening to this and I look up every now and then for the expressions but at that moment, I had to go full stop and felt the sadness and shock. I really don't do reddit but I'm close to creating an account just to tell that girl that she's worthy of love and belonging. I understand her fears but she needs to get out of that real quick. I hope there's an update where she confronts him and just walks out.
To be fair, it sounded a little fake. At least with the limited amount of info available. Although several parts seem a little embellished, I feel like eavesdropping rarely works out that well. It just seems like something is missing from that one, or that it is fake.
Ian's and Tommy's faces while Shane was reading the story of the guy who "chose the wrong girl" practically brought me to tears of happiness. Just knowing that they would never treat a partner that way... And the three of them encouraging the young lady to leave that monster... They truly warmed my cold calloused heart.
I really like how in this series Shayne always tries to see why people are behaving the way they are and being really opened minded. Really putting that psychology degree to work
Yeah it kind of blows my mind when people online just write off somebody as an irreedemable monster based on limited info, much prefer the more evenhanded approach.
i disagree i think he usually makes a lot of assumptions on the people writing the posts and i don't really like that because it often taints his judgment of the person.
@@highdefinition450 He doesn't make a lot of assumptions. That's literally the opposite of what he does. He's one of the most "Well maybe they meant this" or "If they're coming from a place of..." kinds of people reading. At least compared to 99% of the people who go into a post and think they have a full understanding of everyone's background in the post and feels qualified to make an absolute statement. Shayne is a breath of fresh air to these posts in that he's one of the most open minded and fair people when reading these.
I'm surprised how *_normal_* the first story was, and the fact that OP both listened to and understood the comments? Definitely not the regular Reddit insanity
Agreed. Seeing someone go through genuine growth and work towards being a better person is dope. I hope that dude is doing well and has bettered himself. Sometimes the best thing you can do is recognize you are the problem and work from there.
Sweet 16 party: if you think you child is “entitled” and “spoiled” why not use this as a teaching moment? Have the kid plan the party. This way she learns just how far 1500 dollars actually gets you and she gets exactly what she wants. Of course this would involve you actually being a parent and teaching your kid things like how to budget money and plan a party.
@@sammedude2kI feel like she’s purposefully not caring and not actually listening to her daughter because she was never able to have that as a teenager
@@josiahvaldez1330 I thought the same thing. Sounds like there could be some underlying jealousy/resentment that her kids have it better than she did.
Yeah the other day I was thinking about like. Famous people who would absolutely shock me if something bad came out about them, Shayne is one of the few
@@ND-kh5yw honestly yeah, but people aren't perfect and we all mess up. I do think if something bad ever did come out, he would do a lot of reflection, offer a sincere apology, and permanently correct it. And sometimes I think how you react to messing up is better than never messing up at all
I just went through a situation like “I overheard my bf say he chose the wrong girl”. Hearing the comments and reactions almost felt personal and definitely what I needed to hear
I’m honestly kinda surprised you guys didn’t have a stronger reaction to the alcohol story. Pressuring a recovering alcoholic to drink is a truly EVIL act. That’s a one and done thing for me. The FIRST TIME you pressure my recovering partner to drink, is the last time. You are no longer in my life. Zero tolerance is the only policy. Anything less is abuse imho
The first time you pressure anyone to drink is the last time for me, even if the person’s only reason is just that they don’t want to that day. Only scumbags peer pressure others to drink
My problem with the party story (where the mom threw a party for her daughter and the daughter was upset and felt like she didn’t put in any effort) wasn’t about the party at all but how the mom talks about her daughter. She took every opportunity to call her daughter entitled and insult her, and later goes on to compare her to her other daughter (when she talks about how her other daughter is nothing like her). The problem isn’t that she didn’t want to or wasn’t able to spend money on her daughter, it’s that she doesn’t seem to like her daughter.
@@helenlewis2510Yup, this is very common in mother daughter relationships. For whatever reason, some mothers feel a resentment towards their child. “Do you like me?” “Of course I love you.” “But do you LIKE me?” “…”
@@samanthaschmitz5055probably unconsciously. It feels like the mom just did it to get the daughter off her back and did the bare minimum not because she actually cares.
For the non-alcoholic drinks story, I think OP's family need to decide what they love more: OP or alcohol. And if they choose alcohol, OP should stop trying to appease them, because it will never be enough and she deserves better.
When my husband and I got married, we had a dry wedding because we’d been to one too many family functions where a number of family members got drunk and engaged in dangerous behavior. When word got out, people were outraged, and almost a third of the family in question didn’t come. We definitely remembered who thought we weren’t worth celebrating if we didn’t give them alcohol.
The idea that anyone who "loves you" is willing to miss out on something so important simply because they can't clink their champagne nonstop is heart breaking. I hope you have a group of loved ones that MAKES SURE you are celebrated the way you deserve. @@emmaprice3740
1:10:25 you seem to have forgotten the part where she politely asked them multiple times if they would come back and help clean and they just kind of blew her off. THEN she was like "okay fine I guess I'll take care of it," and that's when all of a sudden they were like "oh well we were going to help" as if they didn't spend the whole weekend explicitly avoiding her attempts to get them to help
The alcohol one was WILD like the entire family being ENRAGED by not having alcohol meanwhile forcing the recovering alcoholic to drink?? I’m dumbfounded by the entire situation
We need the couch guests to have little red flags they can wave over the course of the story 🤣 like when you’re getting those hearing tests when they’re like “raise your hand when you hear the beep” but with the flags
As a recovering alcoholic, I can honestly say a few things: 1 - Even when I was still drinking, I could survive a party or wedding or event without alcohol. 2 - I could definitely differentiate between a cocktail and a mocktail. You f'ing notice by the 3rd drink if you're tipsy or not. 3 - The amount of people who go crazy at being invited to dry parties / weddings / events is f'ing INSANE. If you need alcohol present to even attend, let alone act like a civilized adult, then you need to seek help IMMEDIATELY. 4 - To pressure someone who is a recovering addict, to imbibe the substance they're getting sober from, is DEPLORABLE AND DISGUSTING!! 5 - Drinking Culture is out of control, and people shouldn't be ostracized, shamed, and/or mocked for not wanting to partake in drinking. 6 - There are ZERO EXCUSES to be angry with the hosts for choosing not to serve alcohol. It is THEIR event. YOU are the GUEST. If the shoe was on the other foot, would you appreciate being criticized and berated over YOUR choices for YOUR event?? NO. NO, YOU WOULD NOT. The sooner people stop trying to normalize drinking / getting drunk at every. f'ing. everything, the sooner we as a society can have a real conversation about the normalization of needing to get f'd up at every. f'ing. everything.
@@margaret_adelle That's so sad, in so many ways. I will never understand the entitlement some people have towards things, but especially towards needing to have alcohol at weddings. Even when I drank, if someone was having a dry event, I 100% respected their wishes and never once put up a fight about it. And this is coming from someone who started drinking at 12, and was *very easily* drinking a fifth of vodka a day, by the time I quit 4 months ago. (About to be 36, so that's nearly 24 years of drinking.)
@@margaret_adelle I’ve been to dry weddings and they’re fun. The worst time I ever had at a wedding was in the middle of nowhere Kentucky and there was no food other than desserts. I was in the wedding party so I was on site all day with no car and no food. I still cannot eat cake balls because I survived an entire day on only those. lol
for the sweet 16 story, I grew up in a cow town, we did not have a whole lot in the way of money. I didn't get a smart phone till I was almost 17 and had a flip phone. My mom made sure my siblings and I got amazing parties. My sweet 16 was Starwars themed and we used pool noodles as light sabers. She got a sheet cake from walmart and made it in the shape of R2D2 (the best character) and decorated it. I had so much fun at that party! The same year it was my older sisters 18th and she wanted it to be movie themed. People came dressed up as movie or TV characters or actors. We even had a red carpet. Both of the parties combined might have been a little over 1k. HOW did the mom spend that and STILL do so little????
I honestly shed a couple of tears when you read the one about the girl overhearing her boyfriend, it is so sad that after 8 years together he doesn't love her at all and that she has so little self esteem that she still wanted to change his mind after being lied to for 8 years.
What blows my mind about that story, she said she was 25. Which means they got together when she was still a minor if they’ve been together eight years.
That last story filled me with second-hand indignation. If someone plans and executes a party in your space and doesn't help clean it up, sounds like they don't need to be in your space ever again.
Same. And the thing that pissed me off even more was that they said the friends didn’t drink and everything was non-alcoholic. So it’s not like they all drank and partied too much and that’s why they didn’t clean(not at good excuse at all, it at least it would be something). No, they were all totally sober and still didn’t bother to help her clean up for the party THEY threw. If it were me, those friends would be dropped pretty quickly.
Agree. Years ago for my 18th I came home from school to my house decked out for my birthday by my aunt and SIL. I ended up having a week filled of festivities since my family wanted to go all out, but at the end of all the celebrations everyone helped my dad and I put the furniture back, take down most of the decorations (I wanted to keep the balloons cuz it’s fun 😅) and also throw out all the trash. This is also something they do even when WE only set up and get ready but that parts not relevant. Point is, if you are offering to do something special like this for a loved one, you should be willing to stay and help them out even if you can only do one small task. It’s common courtesy and these people clearly have no manners if they’re gonna make OP clean her own surprise party by herself
@@EStramel09Seriously. I can't imagine being the last person to leave, seeing the house in its post-party state and just... walking out. OP shouldn't have even had to ask. When things start winding down, you start cleaning up. That's... Just what you do.
That story of the girl who threw the surprise party absolutely wrenched my heart. I've been married for just shy of 8 years, and I've never once doubted my husband's love for me, nor he mine for him. We're not perfect by a long shot, but goodness. So sad.
When I was loving it up as a university student I was quite a drinker. At most parties I’d have at least a dozen beers, a few shots, and just get pretty drunk over time. One of my best experiences was when I didn’t want to have a hangover, just drank two beers to start the evening and went non-alcoholic the rest of the night. I remembered more, I had full control over myself, knew what was happening around me, still danced my ass off and had great fun with my friends, and the next morning woke up feeling refreshed. I still like a beer, or a glass of wine, but I prefer a nice mocktail over alcoholic cocktails. I can’t imagine demanding alcohol, especially if there’s someone recovering from addiction in the group.
Growing up, most of my family was religious. The other half is alcoholics. So almost every party growing up was either completely dry or wildly alcoholic. And honestly, when you go to a party with a bunch of people who have only ever gone to parties without alcohol, it's so much better in my opinion. Because everyone has learned how to have fun with other people with without being impaired. And learning how to have fun without being tipsy or anything like that is something that I feel a bunch of people have not had a lesson in and that's sad.
@@DanDanDoei mean yea there is a difference between shotfaced drunk and having like two beers. alcohol does help a party lol even if you don't have a lot
My entire wedding came out to about $1700 total (minus the photographer that my parents paid for as their gift) and it was AMAZING. You can absolutely throw a great party for $1500. The mom just needed to put in a bit of effort.
100% I agree. I’m currently planning a board game night with some friends that’s bound to be more fun that that sweet sixteen. I’m hardly spending any money but I’ve put a lot of thought into things like the comfort of the guests, making sure I have enough games that can include the amount of people that have said they’ll be there, selecting games that are similar to games that my friends have enjoyed in the past, etc. Money means nothing compared to the amount of thought you put into something.
my mom threw my party (also notably i come from an EXTREMELY poor family. and I didn't have a sweet 16 exactly but smth close.) for maybe 200 dollars. She got the whole community to chip in and it's something I still remember very foundry from making the posters with my sister to going ti the library to print the buttons with my mom. I feel very sorry for this poor girl who didn't get to have this very american tradition.
So true. If it's planned with love, that comes through no matter how much money was spent. The sad part about that story is how apparent it was that the mother didn't really love her daughter, not enough to show her anyway. I foresee her not being allowed in her daughter's life much in the future
At the "I heard my bf say he chose the wrong girl" story, I felt like the boys were talking straight to me. I needed to hear what they were saying to OP.
I hope you listen. I left the wrong one. Dated for a while, frogs mostly but found my perfect prrson and have been in a happy relationship for over 20 years.
42:07 I’ve always appreciated the throughline of healthy masculinity in this show, and the GOBSMACKED way that Ian and Tommy look at each other is a hilarious but poignant example
I was a waiter at a retirement home. And the old men would make the EXACT same comments to the waitresses. And it would always escalate to inappropriate touches and/or advances unless the manager got involved (which she would upon request). I definitely think this girl nailed it with the “interested” accusation.
@@highdefinition450 there were people with dementia, but they were usually well behaved. Often we knew their favorite things and keeping them in a routine kept them from getting stressed. The bad apples were fully mentally capable from what I could tell. And they usually had their wives RIGHT next to them being very oblivious or permissive of his actions. This wasn’t every wife though. Even the elderly are a mixed bag and plenty of couples were happy, respectful, and considerate.
The party clean up one really got me... when I was 22 I was dating a guy who was a raging alcoholic. He would constantly invite his friends over and have a huge party....and no one, absolutely no one ever cleaned anything up! I'd get so mad. I was having to work a ton and I couldn't stand it anymore. So many of his party friends/coworkers hated me foe "being a buzz killer" etc...but unsurprisingly none of them offered THEIR place instead. Finally I realized I was approaching this wrong. I started just leaving the mess and suddenly my place wasn't as fun. I told them I didn't care if they came over, but no one was helping me afterwards... eventually I implemented a couple strategies- there was always underage drinking (19+) which I didn't really support because I didn't want to get in trouble, but kind of realized it was going to happen regardless of how I felt, so I leveraged them into cleaning up after the party from the night or 2 ago before anyone could come over that night. Turns out they felt it was a fair deal because like 4 of them would come over and make it spotless. They'd have to carry out all the garbage, glass bottles etc. The 1st time it was INCREDIBLY dirty and they started realizing that if they cleaned as they went etc it wouldn't be so dirty when it came time to clean. So they went from putting out cigarettes on my rented furniture to yelling at ME to use a coaster, lol. They kept it cleaner than I could have! Apparently they even got better at bussing tables. 😂
My parents always made sure to decorate our small house with as many streamers, balloons, and cool Knick knacks they could afford at the dollar store and it made me feel so loved. Never once did I want anything more. It’s all about feeling that your parents care and make an effort
Yeah, absolutely. Sorry I make really long comments 😅 As a kid I would hear my parents get up in the middle of the night to decorate the house for my birthday and that was f***ing awesome. And I remember all the times I’ve done the same for them because it feels good to contribute to the celebration, even if it’s not much decoration at all and very cheap. I do understand where OPs daughter is coming from tho, cause I grew up in a gentrified neighborhood and I saw my friends and neighbors having big parties and celebrating a lot more than we did and I was definitely jealous and I wanted to feel celebrated like that. And I wanted a sweet 16 too! I think there’s a happy medium to be found, because it’s possible to be grateful for the effort your parents go through to celebrate you and also ask for more on a milestone birthday. It’s not fun to be a teenager and feel like you’re different from everyone else around you, and at 16 you kinda can’t help but feel like you’re the lame poor one out of your group of friends in that situation. I understand where everyone is coming from but ultimately I still think the mom is the AH because she had the conversation with her daughter and she did say she’d do something bigger on a budget for her sweet 16, but ended up ruining it because she didn’t use that budget well at all
I definitely get the feeling from the tone of the OPs post that her kid feels like her mom doesn't care about putting effort into her birthday It's utterly possible she's a bit spoiled, but based on OPs weird distance from her, I think she just feels like her mom doesn't care. "My friend's parents put all that work in and then my own mom doesn't even get decorations..." It defo something that would get me down.
Same!! My kids love how I keep birthday steamers up for like a month, but like I spent a lot of time on that balloon arch I better be able to keep that up as long as possible
Absolutely, the daughter likely just wanted her parents to show effort for her and what she would enjoy, cause honestly, it kind of seems like they don’t and didn’t before just based off of the mom saying that she never got stuff like that before as well as her comments about her daughter being “spoiled” and “entitled”, with the venue not being decorated it just showed the daughter that her happiness didn’t matter to her parents and that they don’t care enough to put more than the bare minimum amount of effort for a party into her sweet sixteen which she already expressed to them was important to her.
You guys should do an episode where you read two sides of a the same story- it’s crazy hearing how different stories are from a different perspective lmao
I've read one that was about an ex wife being invited to her ex husband's wedding (by the husband, not the bride) to his new wife, and said the bride was a raging jealous woman who didn't want the ex wife to be there because her dress was too pretty. Well then we hear the Brides side of the story, and the ex wife was wearing a red wedding dress as a guest to the Brides wedding. Of course she didn't want her there, she's actively trying to outshine the bride!
40:27 This story absolutely broke my heart. She deserves so much better, she deserves so much love and support, she NEEDS so much love and support. I think that, just like Shane said at the end of this story, Reddit might be the only people telling her she deserves better. I love watching these videos, and this is the only one I actually cried at... I want to be this girls friend...
It the first story, it was nice to see someone take ownership of the blame and learn from their mistakes. Very refreshing considering that they usually double or triple down.
I had a budgeted sweet 16 at a Drag restaurant with my 2 closest friends, my family, and my cousin. I still remember it and I ended up go back to the same place for my high school graduation party (had the same people for both). Both never went over $2000, and they were so much fun! The budget will never be the problem, the problem is how much effort, time, and appeal you put into it. Having some decorations and a going up to the DJ and saying “hey, cut the trivia out, just play some music please” would’ve gone MILES to not having a crappy relationship with your daughter.
The last story made me so mad, her “friends” knew that 0P is working two jobs and even asked not to have a party and they still threw one and then on top of that left her with the cleanup and moving furniture for something she didn’t even ask for and then try to spin it around on her acting like her asking for help in a timeframe that works with her work schedule is being dramatic. I really hope she cuts them off
I literally just made a comment like this, but totally!!!! I can't believe that none of them thought about staying for the clean up, did it come up in planning? And then being pissed about it, and thinking that cleaning up stinking dishes and garbage could be pushed off for 3-4+ days?? Unbelievable lmao
@@idrathergotohell5215also it’s insane that they later said “we were gonna help” when they didn’t even mention that at all when OP would ask! It feels it’s just trying to cover their ass and saying they would’ve helped but without actually meaning it. The audacity of them getting mad at OP is insane.
The fact that their gaslighting was able to convince her makes me feel bad. Everyone was telling her that she was in the right to be upset at what they did. Leave her with a huge mess to try and clean up while they know she’s working 2 jobs. They ignore her and then get mad at her for finally cleaning. I hope she’s able to realize what they did was wrong and she cuts them out
Y'all should definitely do a reddit video with stories that end happy/wholesome. Like updates where everything unexpectedly ends up ok. That would be a nice swing in the other direction after these downers lol...
5:28 reminds me of some of the friends I used to go to high school with, we would always go to parties but some of them would just stand there awkwardly and not interact with anyone then leave within like an hour of showing up because “we just aren’t feeling the vibe” like bro I have never seen you feel the vibe besides seeing you get unbelievably baked in your room
Very poetic how Shane said; "You've proven you can love someone." It's true, love doesn't always have to be mutual to be valuable, but you shouldn't be entangled with someone like that.
In my head, I'm cheering for the dude in the first story. At 22, this guy is learning to empathize with his SO and think about how she feels to understand the context of his actions. That's gold right there
I think both replies are over-judging. The guy isn't completely bad, and he's learning. I have a lot of respect that he learned that he was wrong and made change from the sound of it.
I wish we had a million podcasts and shows like this. Mature, understanding, empathetic men talking about real situations in healthy ways. This is critical and I hope more cis men and kids can watch these and grow, rather than fall into toxic influencers.
This is why I prefer this to dedicated Reddit channels There’s actually a discussion with different views and empathy That’s why it’s so entertaining! It’s like reading stories with a group of friends
I have charged admission for a birthday party I was throwing for myself once, but it was $20 if you are drinking and free if not. It was open bar, so the money went to covering that cost. And if they didn’t want to pay the $20, there was an option to BYOB. There was also no expectation for gifts.
I was about to comment that’s I’ve been to plenty of house parties where people had a door charge to cover for drinks and food…but it was like $5-$10, not $90!!!!
I’m guessing you asked if that was ok first though right. Either that or come from a culture where it’s more expected to share costs like this. Also 20$ is pretty reasonable for open bar.
omg the rude question story makes me so happy. Can't count how many times I've (lesbian) been asked invasive disgusting question from basically strangers and been expected every time to take the high road and be the bigger person.
I legit thought the question was going to be, "Who's the man/wife?", cause that is so freaking common! Ugh! Either way though, if I had been there to hear that comeback, I'd have given the man a standing ovation and CHEERED!
The amount of times that someone I barely know have followed up me saying I'm asexual with asking me if I masturbate...people don't believe when I say yeah I've been asked that sooooo many time. Once a lady overheard a conversation I was having while walking past, stopped and immediately said "you're asexual? Do you masturbate?" I'd been asked that too many times that month and snapped asking her what the fuck was wrong with her. She thought I was joking at first but I really went off on her. Like jesus would you go up to a random person on the street and ask them if they masturbate?
At her age? I’m 25 and never had a partner before, I hope she leaves him and gets help for her insecurities. I’m obsessed with this videos, I’m so happy they’re a series now 💕
I completely agree ❤ I'm 24 and never had a partner too. I prefer to wait and find someone who actually clicks with me than dating/staying with someone just because i'm getting older 😅
i love that a key takeaway from the sweet 16 party is: money ≠ effort most of my teen birthdays were the same formula every year: we go to a restaurant where we all pay for our own meal, we go to a movie where my mom bought the tickets but my friends buy the snacks. most of my friends were wealthier than me, but always said how much they loved my birthdays because we literally just got to hang out and have fun out and about. you don’t need much to have fun! you could’ve had chipotle at home but have people dress in a theme and do a cute photo wall. fun doesn’t have a price tag!
No bc literally I turned 19 two months ago and had just broke up with my ex, I wanted to go to Torchys tacos and I was ecstatic, it's my favorite place, just wish my 16th was better since I was having to evacuate for hurricane Delta right after evacuating for Laura and I was so upset and going insane 💀
Mine were usually like that too! It was always the same pizzeria, followed by a movie at the theater close by. And because of when my birthday is, it was pretty often a Marvel movie.
My sixteenth birthday was my favorite one growing up and it was literally just an all day Lord of the Rings marathon at my parents house with I think just 2 of my closest friends and it was amazing 😂
On the birthday party story with the 16 year old girl, the mother could have told the daughter she could invite a few of her closest friends to go to a concert. Made it a memorable fun time and it would have been cheaper than what she had spent on a party she didn't even put any thought or consideration into. Also she could have gotten some pretty cool decorations at a party store for pretty cheap and had a fun bonding experience with her daughter by including her in choosing a theme and color scheme. Also when the DJ started with the trivia she could have been asked them to stick to music and let the guests make song requests.
Based on how OP talks about what she has bought (or more accurately HASN’T bought) I don’t think she wanted to get her daughter anything special for her 16th, because SHE never would’ve DREAMED to ask HER parents for such and such!!
Tbh it made me mad about their reaction. I feel like men don’t get it lol. Especially because I’m sure her insecurity stemmed from intuition. And she ended up being right. Women only go into “competition” if they sense a threat. I don’t believe she was threatened by the idea of her bf leaving her for his friend. It’s the idea that he found her attractive, would’ve shot his shot if he was more confident(&she wasn’t married). And still became close friends. I would NEVER become close friends with someone I liked even if it didn’t get serious. Also I would never date a guy with a girl “best friend”. I heard a saying that “men are only nice and friendly to women they find attractive.” I live by that. I’ve never met a guy and girl friends duo where they didn’t look like they would date eachother and were on the same attractiveness level or the girl was slightly or really attractive. I thought I had a lot of genuine guy friends in school, they all ended up confessing, even though I had a boyfriend and made it clear😭.
Both my sister and my bff are prettier than me, and the hard thing about that is comparison bias. If you stand a more attractive person next to a less attractive person than by comparison the more attractive person looks even better while the less attractive one looks worse. I spent pretty much my whole adolescence nerfing my chances with guys because I had really bad social anxiety and couldn't hardly go anywhere without one of the two. It does put a chip on your shoulder when you're with them and approached by a guy, or a group of guys, and you don't get any attention whatsoever and all of the guys are tripping over each other to talk to and flirt with the person you're with and no one talks to you, even just TALKS to you like making conversation really hurts, or if your friend and her boyfriend try to set you up with his best friend who isn't really interested in you either, but *is* interested in her regardless of the fact that she's taken. That does a serious number on your self esteem growing up. My boyfriend through the second half of high school and most of college, the man I was expecting to marry, admitted to me once that he had been in a class with my sister the year before he met me and had been interested in and pursued her, but she wasn't interested. Yeah, that hurt. It feels like they're admitting to being happy enough with second place, like saying, "You're okay enough. I can settle." It didn't hurt for long though and in no way contributed to the end of our relationship. I feel like continuing to carry that chip on your shoulder into adulthood shows a serious need for some therapy and self reflection though. My self esteem is entirely my own and isn't affected by or dependent on anyone around me be they family, friends, peers, or complete strangers. Perhaps I've just reached the age of, "No fucks left to give." 😂
The party mom is literally my mom. I felt like shit growing up because I would cry on all my birthdays and I felt ungreatful. It wasn't until a friend got me a 2$ gift that was perfectly picked for me that I realized my moms lack of care was what hurt me.
Exactly, it was definitely not the expense the daughter was upset about, it's the fact the her *mom* couldn't be bothered to do some research and put actual love care and effort into her daughter's 16th
Exactly like the daughter seemed to completely understand that they could not afford an extravagant party and wasn’t resentful of that. But no decorations for your own daughter? Like that comment said, weaponized incompetence.
My dad is similar to tbe mom, grew up very poor and I grew up with guilt my whole life for everything I have. It's very hard. Unfortunately if you don't like something, it can be seen as ungrateful. We are all entitled to have likes and dislikes, and we all have diff needs and value different things.
Look, Party Mom had no idea what a birthday party needed to look like. It wasn’t intentional because the mom would’ve been very grateful just to get anything when she was younger. It just came down to lack of communication
The guy from the first story understanding that he’s the problem is more mind blowing than those stories where people get raccoons to a party and steal groceries from the poor
Right!? This sounds crazy, but I almost felt teary hearing someone acknowledging they were wrong and planning to rectify that. It seems so rare these days. I hope the guy keeps growing.
The girl who was afraid to leave her awful boyfriend - she said her biggest fear was not being able to find someone who will love her. Meanwhile she is literally with a man who doesn’t love her!!! You’re already living your worst nightmare, you have literally nothing to lose! He’s an absolute coward. I hope to god she can open her eyes and see her worth. Lord knows how people spend 8 years not being true to themselves and knowing it.😣
Glad you called the boyfriend a coward because that is exactly what he is he willing wasted 8 years of his and her life and thinks he will have to continue as if he can not do anything, the poor girl deserves far better
No, she was worried about not finding anyone who will be willing to stay with her. Which is a difference that only highlights the rest of your comment. She likely doesn’t think she’s worthy of love and finding someone willing to even spend their life attached to her feels like a win for her even if it makes her miserable
i remember reading the third story a while ago. op also left another small update explaining that the posts had caused her to recall certain memories with jamie that make her feel uncomfortable in hindsight, and she would no longer be going to the party. it was already sad that kate was dealing with her insecurities, but apparently her boyfriend actually was trying to make some moves on op, from how it sounds.
Yes!! Jamie definitely likes OP more than he lets on & OP is in denial. It’s already weird that he’s texting with the girl he thought was “too hot for him” 🤕
I'm an 80s baby and we had no money but I got great presents and parties. DIY, caring, effort and being prepared for the fact that her friends had big 16th birthdays.
I had an opposite "Sweet 16" experience. I'm introverted (even more so as a teenager) and my mom loves planning and attending parties. She wanted to throw me a party because she never had a Sweet 16, but I said no because a) I knew my school friends and my family friends wouldn't get along, and b) a lot of people my mom would have invited were not people I wanted to spend my birthday with, but if I didn't invite them, it would have been rude, and c) I hated parties to the extent that I would cry in the bathroom from being overwhelmed sometimes. She told me I was ungrateful and didn't speak to me for hours on the day of my birthday. I spent most of the day in my room being sad and kinda confused. Then the next day it was like everything was fine, and my family just took me out for dinner instead, which was much better than a party would have been.
I was lucky to get $100 spent on me for my party's so I personally think that the daughter could have took it better.Btw my mom did not have the money for it which is ok because I understand that and I love her for trying
@@briarfreeman5795 This. I find it a little weird how many wants to call the mother of that story the a-hole. Stating that she isn't trying ... as if the $1500 materialized out of thin-air and the work involved to have those funds to use required no effort or time. I want to chalk it up to other entitled people defending each other to keep their 'benefits in life' going, or perhaps to justify their own warped 'rights'.
I think my mom was glad that I was introverted, and I was super happy to be gifted with my first computer!! My younger sister is the complete opposite of me but she understood we couldn’t afford it. So she is planning that, when she has enough money, she will throw a party as extravagant as she likes. Doesn’t matter the age, really!!
@@Umega101 If the daughter really wanted to have this amazing party, she could've always planned it herself. The mom gave the budget, and then even helped plan it on top of that. Sounds to me like the daughter (and reddit) is blaming the mom for an oversight they both made. Mom tried, and that's what counts. To me this would be a funny story for the future: "Remember that time we completely forgot about decorations and setup?".
@DaTimmeh That's the thing though, the mom didn't "forget" the decorations, she dismissed them as unnecessary. She also didn't even bother to check if the venue provided tables and chairs, just assumed that they would. She also didn't bother checking with the dj on what he'd do. Both of these issues would have been fixed with ONE phone call each and she couldn't put in the effort to do so.
I have been to a place like that 'wrong choice', when Shayne said "she must have no friends who hype her up, reddit is the only one who can help her" I burst into tears, it hits too close to home, I'm glad I'm at a better place now, single still but very much happy!!
For the second last story, I graduated high school in COVID lockdown. I had a tight knit group of friends and some of us were really looking forward to prom. My mum and I set up a cute prom party in my house and took pictures at the local park. It made for a cute, nice night with balloons and a little potluck and we had a good time, if a little lacklustre. In the end, it was the thought, effort and experience that counted. My mum (and I) put a lot of effort into what we could do, and it was much better than renting an expensive but barebones venue and kids DJ.
Can we talk about the incredible amounts of Healthy Masculinity at Smosh? It’s genuinely comforting knowing that there are guys like Ian, Shayne, Tommy, Damien, Noah, Spencer, Keith, etc, to be a solid influence on the next generation of what “men” can & should be. ❤️
Yyeess! One of the other ones was about a dad who punished his daughter for a period accident and I swear to God they all were so amazing in their reaction I nearly cried.
@@torismith9360omg yes! I also watched it, they were so aware also of the fact that the might not know how to respond to a period thing since none of them ever had it but they were so like great about it and just are good human beings 😭
In regards to the last story, it truly is wild that those people threw a whole party and then all left without helping clean up. That’s insane. How do you go to a place, make a mess at that place, and then not clean it up.
@@sarahmadden4645 that is of course an option, but they also could've just everyone do just a little at the end of the party and most of it would have already been done day 0
what's even more insane is how they did it without OP's knowledge. like, they just broke in to her house. wtf???? idc if you're my friend throwing a party or not. you dont just brake into someones house like that.
I could kinda understand if the person didn't mind having a party because they went through all the effort of planning and setting up and it didn't sound like a particularly messy party, but the fact that she explicitly said she didn't want a party and they forced that on her definitely makes it weird. But it's also weird to try and twist their arms into coming back to clean up like just take the 15 minutes to wash the dishes and then distance yourself from these people
My take away from the sweet 16 story is that it's unfortunate that the mom kind of holds her daughter's financial well being against her. She seems to be weaponizing her own poor upbringing instead of being grateful that she can give her daughter better. She didn't put a lot of effort into the party but since she spent good money on it, she calls her daughter entitled for not enjoying it. And I think she's using extroverted and introverted wrong. Lol I hope she learns to enjoy the experiences she's able to give her children instead of being stuck in the past of her own childhood.
Finally I’m glad someone else thinks this. The whole time when she’s talking about how poor her upbringing was it was clear she was projecting onto her kids. Even with the brag of “I don’t buy them video games and stuff so they are not spoiled” I felt that she just resents getting her kids anything and spending money on them at all.
You're so right about the projecting because she was the one who was making it all about the money and making her seem entitled but her daughter didn't really seem to care as much about the amount of money. Granted, she did use the word "cheap" but 16 year olds (like any human really) sometimes say things they don't really mean in a way they don't really mean it which is why they need their parents to understand them and teach them the correct way to communicate their feelings.
I think it’s already batshit for a mom to air out an argument between her and her teenage daughter on the internet for strangers to potentially criticize her daughter’s behavior. Not a doubt in my mind that this is just a bad mom with very conditional love and she’s manipulating this girl into thinking that she’s incredibly spoiled, materialistic and ungrateful by using her OWN upbringing (and pointing out how different they are, TOTALLY unnecessary to the story so very telling she included it) when her daughter seems to be going through very normal teenage things and was upset by her mom’s lack of effort and the regular amount of embarrassed because of her party being worse than her friends’ parties. Also I think there are plenty of ways to teach a kid that you can’t get everything you want without withholding so many things that their peers have. By no means do you have to give your kid everything but holding back just for the sake of the lesson makes me think it’s more of a punishment or testament to the mom not taking responsibility for her own poor parenting skills.
Yeah I didn't really get what her daughter being "extroverted" really had to do with anything. And frankly the standards she seems to hold her daughter to are bizarre. She talks about her own daughter like she's her roommate or something. I do think the daughter was reacting the lack of effort and affection in the party which also seems to color their relationship in general, honestly she doesn't seem like the type of person who really wanted to have kids if this is what she thinks of them. She's the one making everything about money, not her daughter, she equates having spent a lot of money with putting care and effort in, when she very clearly didn't.
Agreed. You can let your kids have stuff and teach them not to be entitled. My son has his own switch lite, has since he was 5 or 6. It's got a cracked screen and the joystick drifts like crazy but he hasn't once complained about wanting a new one. We have always been pen about not being able to afford certain things so it kind of breaks my heart when I see his switch. Thankfully he's getting a new one (full size) at Christmas.
Between my mom and my sis, they spend roughly the same amount on my quinceañera. It was the best! And I still remember it. The most expensive thing was the cake and the dress. Everything else my mom either made the decorations herself, or bought little trinkets that she fixed up from dollar tree. We also had my family come in and pitch in to help with food.
@@pamelah1220 The silliest hat I have is a custom made hat with the Illuminati logo on it. I had it made for a D&D campaign I once ran, but haven't had a reason to wear it since.
For the first story, my boyfriend and I both have an understanding of each other's introvert levels and he knows how exhausted I get at parties. We've never had this specific situation happen because our birthday parties have always been video games with like two other friends and some family, but even if we're out on dates or at family gatherings, if one of us gets tired we don't have an issue with the other leaving. The big difference here is that he left to go out with HIS OWN FRIENDS to a BAR because he didn't like the music. Complete A-hole behavior. As she said, it wouldn't have been a big issue of he'd just done home, but going to hang out somewhere else is awful
YUUUP. I was thinking the same thing. I’m on the autistic spectrum and when I’m around certain personalities I just get drained and go nonverbal and need to vanish. I don’t go to a lot of parties for this reason, but if I was dating someone for over a year and they wanted me at their party, I’d make an effort to be there the whole time - and yet, if I needed to vanish, I’d text them about it and I’d hope that they knew me well enough to understand. This absolutely isn’t that situation. He’s not an introvert who ran out of battery, he’s someone who was used to a relationship with an ex that felt like he was still single, and now that he’s being asked to act like he’s a partner, he reacted as if he was still single. At least he recognized all of that and hopefully is going to make an effort to change
Yeah I agree, I understand hating crowds and needing space but it comes off more like “this party isn’t fun for me so I’m going to bounce to see friends and see you later” but… it was her birthday 😂 lol. Wow. His friends were already at the party too.
I mean think about OP admitting that he only does things he likes and that his hopefully now ex-girlfriend even if she has no interest in the joins Yet he could care less about anything his girlfriend likes or enjoys
@@GamfluentPerfectly explained! When it comes to the argument of a relationship with a 10-15 year age difference, the argument always seems to end with "They're both adults they can do whatever they want". So in this situation the bf is NOT an a-hole. I don't know why there's a mentality of "I have to ask my gf if I can go somewhere like I'm asking my mother" 😂 The gf is an absolute A-hole for "demanding" him to stay and then turning into an absolute spoiled child with the whole "my sister can help me clean and my mother can take me home"
It is INSANE how much this format helps me cope with my breakup?! Guys, keep doing what you're doing. I bet it helps alot of people out there who don't have friends to tell them to get over it. It might seem naive but Smosh reading Reddit Storys is very soothing to me, knowing I was NOT the asshole. (My ex boyfriend at least resembled 6 assholes that you guys went through reading these stories)
The alcohol story reminded me of when my mom pressured me to get cross faded at her birthday. I was of legal age and everything, but I never really liked alcohol and I didn't like the feeling of being high. Her party was at home and she kept pushing a beer at me and her friends kept pushing a blunt on me and making fun of me when I said I didn't want to. So I ended up doing both and I had such an awful breakdown. I don't like to remember how it felt. She recorded me freaking out and was laughing. Now I'm firm about never doing either, or at least definitely not at the same time.
My WEDDING wasn't even $1500, and it was absolutely gorgeous. However, I actually did my RESEARCH. We looked into multiple venues, and ended up going with a nice Greek restaurant that had a banquet hall on the second floor. The ceiling had a wooden trellis with faux vines woven through it, so it gave the impression of sunlight filtering through vines on a pavilion in Greece. There were beautiful murals of Santorini painted on the walls. They provided tables, chairs, tablecloths, and even vases with gorgeous faux white and lavender flowers. We barely had to decorate. It doesn't take a lot of money to have a beautiful party/wedding/etc, it just takes EFFORT. Which that mom didn't put in. At first I was indignant that a teenager would act so bratty. However, the comments completely changed my mind. The mom didn't seem to CARE, which I think is the main reason the daughter is upset. Poor kid.
Agreed, the daughter likely just wanted to be shown that her parents care, and with how the party turned out it just showed her that her parents don’t and won’t put in any effort despite the daughter expressing an interest in it. It’s like someone getting a person an expensive gift, like a bike, knowing beforehand that the person doesn’t like or do whatever was given to them. And then getting mad that the gift wasn’t appreciated to the fullest because it was expensive, but no actual thought went into it.
Exactly! I have parents like that, who would say yes, not put in any effort, then call me bratty and unappreciative when I just wanted to feel understood.
Wtf. She lucky she even had a party. Also I call bullshit on OP comment. Your not getting any venue anywhere for less then $3000. Decorations for the room and food already put you $5000 in depending on what you get🤦🏿♂️
The story about the family who drinks trying to force the boyfriend who was a RECOVERED ALCOHOLIC to drink was wild. The whole culture around alcohol and how not drinking, for whatever reason, is some kind of character flaw honestly speaks to a major addiction issue that we've normalized.
Maybe it’s because I’ve watched the handful of videos where she’s mentioned it before but I so desperately want an entire episode based on MLM horror stories with Jackie because I know her comments will be so entertaining
That last story made me super sad for OP. Those are some very neglectful and inconsiderate friends that she has, the person that plans/sets up/hosts the party is responsible for the party (unless otherwise organized) as it is their project, meaning the cleanup afterwards is also a part of their project. Them leaving dirty dishes and trash in and around her house for multiple days when they were aware how busy her life was and that she had said that she would not be able to handle the work of a birthday event at that time, is so beyond rude,, i would personally want an entirely new group of friends but i dont even know how much my trust in having friends would be damaged at that point ☹️
Right! Like it's their responsibility to clean up after they prepared the party. If they're too tired after the party, they can still clean up a bit and continue to finish the next day or something. I never had a big birthday party or anything like this (don't have friends) but I thought this was common sense? I hope the OP found better friends.
With relation to the whole “stooping down to her level” in the rude question with rude question story, there’s a great Brennan LM quote from an adventuring party episode where he compares that type of thought with saying, “Hey I’m gonna push you down and step on your head, but when you try to move your head out from under my foot, you can’t hurt me.”
I was in a relationship for 12 years just to be told he didn't love me. I understand that girl's pain and her huge insecurities. I wish I could tell her that she is enough.
@@CometQueen meanwhile there's me, I bounced the moment the bf of 1 month said my family is egotistical just cuz we love talking about our worklife and gossip about colleagues which fed into his own insecurity about not having a job. I was like wow I don't need this negativity in my life dawg. Left him in the dust like ✨that✨
Omg that chick who said she heard the bf say he doesn’t love her n a bunch of other disgusting comments….i wish I could hug her n speak words of affirmation to her every day until she started to believe them. That story had me choking bad tears. I hope she left his ass n is in such a glow up era. 🥺♥️
I think most people are relatively sane, but the internet lets everyone put their thoughts out there. In the US alone there's over 300 million people. If just one percent of the US population was crazy, that's still 3 million people, and all of those people have the ability to make comments, post videos, and find forums where other people have the same crazy thoughts.
The worst part of the story with the 16th birthday party is that the OP's daughter ABSOLUTELY feels like her mother does not care or love her. OP sounds like she doesnt like her own child for being independant and different from how she "thought" she was going to be.
Exactly. Nuts to post a story for the internet to criticize your teenage daughter in the first place. And she clearly feels superior to her daughter based on their interests when like hey man, that’s your DAUGHTER, don’t have one of her being an extrovert makes you feel threatened and not care about her feelings
you can’t expect your child to be born a certain way and have certain personality traits. love them for who they are, and her kid being an extrovert really isn’t something to complain about. that’s just how she is and it’s so sad that her own mother doesn’t think that’s good enough for her.
I relate to that so hard. I once used grease paint around my eye for a Halloween costume and the next day my face broke out badly in hives once I was in school. I went to the nurses office but even hydrocortisone cream has to be provided by a parent. I called my mom at work, a few miles away, a 10 min drive at most (she was the nurse at one of the elementary schools in our school district), and asked her if she could bring me some, even hours later during her lunch break if necessary. She scolded me for calling her and said she was far too busy. I got home that afternoon and took Benadryl, put cream on it, and fell asleep on the couch. When she got home with my sister (Mom would bring her to high school and back because the two schools were basically joined and my sister would walk over before and after.) I woke up and she saw my face, which was only half as swollen and red as it had been and she gasped at me and sharply said, "Nora! Why didn't you tell me it was this bad! You should have insisted that I bring you something!" I was frustrated because I. Did. My school's nurse even told her that I really needed some medicine. But you, the parent, are scolding your *child* for not *demanding* that you, the parent, do something that they've flat out refused to do?! What kind of screwed up backward logic is that? The reality is that she had painted me in her mind since I was little as a needy drama queen, and no matter what I said I was always exaggerating and things were never as bad as I said. Turns out I actually have a lot of health problems! Who knew! (Me. I knew.) Was I needy? Yes. All kids need their parents. They're called your dependants because they depend on you. Very different situation, I know, but it's the same kind of thing with blaming the daughter for the mother's lack of care. If you don't put in the effort with your child then they are going to know, especially if they have a sibling who is obviously treated differently. You get used to agreeing with whatever bare minimum you can get because at least it's not nothing. It feels like an Oliver Twist moment. If you try to push for more, you're liable to get nothing instead.
Please don't work with better help, they leak client information and hire unlicensed therapists. They're currently in a lawsuit for the information problem
I think it’d be cool if you did like an AITA tier list episode - read out the titles of each post and get the guests to rank them in a sort of tier list, then read through them all and edit the tier list at the end. It might be cool to see just how misleading the titles can be
To the post about the surprise party that left a mess behind; I’ve never ever left a party of my friends before pitching in to clean up. This was the worst for that person to have to deal with.
That mother from the Sweet 16 story boiled my blood. That woman will be lucky if either kid still talks to her once they hit 18. The way she talks so passive aggressively about her own child repeatedly and how her child's enjoyment of her own birthday party wasn't an equal priority with the budgeting if at all. And, instead of admitting her own insecurities with being a shitty parent as well as not knowing how to throw a party on a budget, she then puts some blame back on her daughter for approving the decisions but not being happy with the end results? When her daughter probably assumed her mom at least knew what she was doing and had her best interests at heart? She doesn't even talk about her child like she realizes she's A CHILD- she refers to her like she's an annoying younger co-worker she barely tolerates and not someone she's responsible for raising and nurturing. She even admits to immediately shutting down her daughter when she first requested the Sweet 16 when she should've used it as an opportunity to talk frankly about the financial feasibility for their family and how those bat mitzvahs required probably years of saving, planning, and hard work on behalf of the other parents. From the background the mom gives, it sounds like she grew up probably too aware of her family's financial instability, creating a lot of anxiety and continuing insecurity, and overcorrected in completely shielding her children from any awareness of their family's finances. You don't have to share ALL the details but at least talk to your kid about realistic expectations for your family's finances and priorities before you accuse your child of being entitled for asking for what her peers have when you haven't given her any reasons or explanations of why things are different for her. You can't teach your children lessons on that shit if you don't give them actual context for why they're being, in their perspective, deprived compared to their peers. She created that entitlement just by not giving her daughter context for her own life situation and then went to the internet screaming about how her child just magically became an entitled monster who couldn't appreciate the half-assed party that was only agreed to in bad faith just to shut the kid up.
Something that really pissed me off is that despite this anxiety with spending money on something like a party, she didn’t follow up or look into what she was so reluctant to spend money on! I didn’t suffer from financial issues, but I feel like in a poor financial situation; it’s even more important that you look into what you’re spending money on so you know you’re getting your money’s worth!
I'm skeptical of the whole story. All her kid's friends are rich, but she isn't? If OP saved and worked hard to send her kid to an expensive private school, why isn't that mentioned in the story? It seems pretty important. OP sounds like one of those well-off people who just hoard their money and never spend it.
@@afckingegg7585yes I think so to. I think it has more to do with hoarding money then not having enough, because if i only had $1,500 to spare I’d make sure that dollar stretched to do way more then expected, I wouldn’t just be get a cheap venue, get a basic DJ. I’d be meticulous with those funds.
Every time Shayne says, "there's an update" my heart races.
PREACH we're just all so invested at this point lol
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i've never seen Ian react so viscerally than he did during the "i chose the wrong girl" story. im right there with you, Ian
Ian just looked like a prick to me this entire episode lol! ike a little narrow minded, old fashioned, & somehow simultaneous immature shit lol.
Right? And not only did she spend so much time in that relationship, they started dating as teens. I'm sure there is a lot of co-dependency and feeling trapped like they can't breakup. Lack of dating experience can make it very scary, but she really needs to get out!
I'm just saying, if that was me on the couch, they'd have had to put up a card that read "we now bring you a segment called "Hongo walks around holding his head in his fingertips"". Because that's what I was doing for about five minutes after Shayne finished reading that story.
I think we need some reddit wedding shaming stories as Bridezilla demands are always insane and crazy stuff happens at some wesdings
42:45 do both of these people not know that there are other people in the world that they can date and that they don't have to be with each other? 😫
The “he’s the first boyfriend I’ve ever had” truly smashed my heart into a million pieces, poor sweetheart doesn’t know any better and doesn’t know she’s worth so much more than that and deserves so much better than him. I know it’s hard, but love, he’s not worth it.
The fact that she 25, they have been together for 8 years and friends for 2 years before that! They were teens, 15 years old. That poor girl needs a friend to help her see her worth and take her out for fun.
The fact that he’s her first boyfriend and they’ve been together for 8 years and she is afraid of dating “at this age” Is baffling. Like now at 25 is the perfect time for her to START dating. She never has dated before. She really shouldn’t stay in this relationship any longer because the longer it goes on the stronger that fear becomes. And I wonder if they’re in a small town because of my gosh there are sooooo many people out there she could meet and someone will be better for her and she won’t know until she starts. It’s sad that she worries no one will love her, and she hasn’t even started to explore. It’ll be an adjustment but it needs to happen.
He's trash. Girlfriend needs to go and find a REAL man.
This isn't about the reddit post but we have the same pfp!!
But no you're absolutely right. I hope she broke up with him.
"I just wanna make him fall in love with me" made my stomach CRAMP GIRL YOU DESERVE ENDLESSLY BETTER PLEASE GET OUT OF THERE YOU SWEET ANGEL
My vengeful ass would have started recording their conversation, waited until they returned and then stood up with a clink of my glass to make a big announcement, say some lovey dovey stuff about how much I adore my boyfriend, and how long we had been together, and then say I wanted to play a little something special for him, then play the recording hooked up to the Bluetooth speaker. Let the guest tear him apart. Let the friend he'd been in love with be utterly disgusted by him, just go nuclear with the whole thing.
@@Prolillg I would have kicked the damn door down and demanded he repeated everything he just said to my face. That’s snake behavior right there. Dude sounds like a pill.
Me too! I would go scorched earth!!!
I just wanna drop by her house and blast Miley Cyrus « Flowers ». Poor sweet girl
@@Prolillg Nice for a book or smt but I'd probably be so shocked to think about a comeback like that. I'd probably just lock myself and cry, stay there and wait for the person to get out and see that I've heard the conversation or just leave and go stay at my mother's or a friend's house.
I teared up at the poor girl who heard her bf say he chose the wrong person I really hope she’s alright now
@bright.iiiiiii I hope you’re alright now too 😭
@bright.iiiiiiiI’m so sorry darling :( you’re worth everything, just remember that. That POS can choke 💗
That's not what he said at all though. He says that his eye was drawn in the other girl's direction first. It's understandable for this to be hurtful, but it should have such little bearing on their relationship. Superficial attraction is such an over hyped part of a relationship and that becomes clear when you actually love someone because you see them as the most beautiful person in the world. Of course in order to start a relationship with someone there's typically some attraction there, but there's so few people that would say they started a relationship because they saw the single most beautiful person they'd ever seen and the few relationships like that are built on a very fickle foundation.
@@timlong4791he literally said he was disgusted every time he had to kiss her. Fuck you.
@@timlong4791you typed this long ass paragraph just to be talking about a completely different thing. did you even watch the whole video before commenting this? delete this
Social alcoholism is a thing, and those kinds of people hardcore judge those who don’t drink. It’s wild.
They pour you a drink with one hand and judge you for taking it with the other.
The difference is that traditional alcoholics will drink regardless of if anyone joins them. Social alcoholics want others to join in so they don't feel singled out, but they can be real assholes if you don't join in. They usually know what their behavior is like because they see it in others, so they want everyone to be plastered so they won't be judged. The irony is how judgemental they are if you don't drink. It doesn't matter if it's a personal choice or a medical one.
Ugh, this reminds me of the drinking culture question from that Agree to Disagree. Pisses me the hell off.
Right? It's so wild. I have friends that don't drink and I've never even asked them why. And I actually really cherish hanging out with them because they are a good influence on me!
The maturing of the guy in the first story was honestly impressive. I wish the best for both of them!
Dude LOVES HER, loves her
Yeah, you can tell that he genuinely went to AITA to figure out if he was in the wrong. I feel like most of the time people post there specifically for their own validation. Good on him
He should've stayed, if he was awkward he could go eat the food, his friends can leave. It's his girl tho
@@thepineapplequeen489 his friends could have peer pressured him "it's fine all her other friends are here and you're always with her anyway" "bro you'll be here after the party let her have fun with HER friends and come out with us"
Bro got two seasons of character development in a day with a reddit post, fucking incredible, that was NOT were I expected that story to go
The story about the girlfriend overhearing her boyfriend destroyed me. That poor woman. I hope she's ok and knows she deserves better.
Especially considering the level of maturity this guy seems to have. They’ve been together for eight years and he still regrets not asking their mutual friend out? That is such teenage horse shit. He seems to be very obsessed with this mutual friend and has probably held out for her for 8 years. And now he believes he has no other choice but to marry his girlfriend who he doesn’t even like. She deserves way better and shouldn’t stay with him.
@@BostonMBrand this is the thing I don’t understand with dudes like this. JUST DUMP HER. Why is he wasting both of their time by staying in a relationship that he doesn’t even want????
Broke my heart as I literally almost was this girl myself. Thankfully he dumped me over not being able to get over our mutual friend and didn’t waste years of my life. She needs to get away from him. That guy will never love her back
@@BostonMBrandlo loop p
@BostonMBrand not to mention his reasons seemed shallow... he didn't mention her personality. Almost like he had this idea about how she is. But doesn't really know her.
As someone who goes to parties where there’s never alcohol, if you can’t have fun then either change the vibes or don’t be there. Don’t rely on being drunk to have fun.
Calling $90 a "small" admission tells me everything I need to know about this person lol
Yeah, small is like 5 bucks not 90
I thought small would be like $10-15
I know people that would call $25 a small thing, but it's never been to us so I figured that's what this would be. $90 is insane
He wasn't trying to recoup some losses, he was trying to turn a profit.
yea i was thinking 5 euro
I can’t believe smosh has become one of my favorite Reddit channels 😂
Right it’s literally become my favorite
Agreed. I really turned off Reddit channels pretty quickly, just felt like it'd be easier to read the stories myself. No one does it like this. Love the discussions and revolving guests
Me too! My next favorite is Two Hot Takes
Was literally just thinking that been binging them all week.
Honestly though
I feel like they really overlooked the friend that said “Jaime didn’t go for the hot one” to the girlfriend and Jaime! How did he not immediately go off on that friend for disrespecting his gf. If my bfs friend said something like that and he didn’t defend me I’d be seriously rethinking the whole relationship. Doesn’t matter if it was “true” or not.
Because he secretly agrees with his friends that it’s true
That's something I would never be able to forget.
For real though. If Jamie really did like Kate and was okay with her and their life, then what a shit friend to bring that up at all. Even drunk, that's almost deliberate shit-stirring.
Yeah, if a "friend" made a comment like that in front of my wife, we would definitely have problems 😅. Drunk or not, he's a coward for not putting her feelings first and shutting that sh¡t down immediately.
Yeah they needed a woman on this episode. Kate got done DIRTY and frankly OP not being pissed and her bf not being pissed says Kate needs better fuckin friends and to get away from all these people. I hope to God she says no when he proposes.
You do an episode about siblings and bring on one person who is an only child and one who has siblings. Would love to see different reactions between the two.
Yes! That sounds hilarious :D
Brilliant
Well Shayne has siblings (although not sure on if its a close or large age gap) so the guest with the siblings should have the opposite age gap.
My sister and I are one year apart and I've found siblings close in age relate differently to those with big age gaps. More petty rivalries etc for obvious reasons haha
@@bondickleTrue my brother and I have big age gap and it felt like I was an only child since he was an adult by the time I was a child lol
@@bondickle I don't think Shayne's brothers are that much older, I know they're his half brothers so that definitely separates them by a few years but he's also told stories that make it clear his brothers were still at the house when he was young (like the drowning story and the pee on the porch story)
honestly, i feel kates pain. imagine being someones “ill settle with this since i already know i cant have that”
is that not what happens in reality though? you see someone, think theyre attractive, but you dont go up to them to ask them out, and instead get to know someone else and end up with them? i understand the insecurity, but kate needs copious amounts of therapy so she stops tying her self worth to other people.
Ian and Tommy's simultaneous cringe while Shayne was reading the story about the 60yr old couple pestering their friend's daughter to get a boyfriend was all of us.
true, i cringed at that part and when i looked back at the screen and saw them do the same, it was like the cringe of agreement.
That sounds like my asian uncle-auntie. 🫠🫠
Good for that person for sticking up for themselves and calling out that creepy behavior
That man’s response to the rude woman’s inappropriate question WAS iconic and so was this trio 😁
if that guy was a "bear", i'd present him with the world heavyweight champion's belt 😂
I'd probably say: "Why are you asking sbout our sex life? Do you want a threesome with us or something?"
As a parent of someone who went through their teen years and is now into adulthood, I don't understand how the mother and father saved up and paid $1500 for their child's 16th birthday party, - something the mother said she couldn't even dream of asking for when she was a teen as it's such an extravagance - but they put minimal effort into organising it. I also grew up with parents who scrimped and saved for most of my childhood and teen years, and for my 16th I was allowed to have a party and invite a bunch of friends. My party cost my parents $200 (the equivalent of $400 today) and I thought it was the best! It was held on my parent's rural property, there were copious snacks, hot jacket potatoes for dinner, a bonfire, laughter, and music (from my CD player), and we all fell asleep in tents my friends came with. At every step, my parents asked me what I wanted and involved me in every decision. Did I want decorations? Did I want a cake? What food/drinks did I want there? Did I want to use the plates/glasses/cutlery from home or disposable ones? Did I want Dad to DJ the music or control it myself? My mum and I had a contentious relationship, however, I loved spending that time with her organising it. I found out so much about my mother such as the fact she much like the OP had never had any birthday parties growing up. Unlike the OP though my mother being able to provide that experience for her children was healing for her inner child. With my own child, she wanted an 18th birthday party instead. With all the costs involved, it probably came out to $1200. Just like with me, she was involved in every step of the decision-making, and (because she wanted decorations), she, her friend, and our family helped decorate the rented space three hours prior to the party. It didn't take a lot of effort in hindsight and it meant to world to her. She was smiling from ear to ear the whole time, and her friends gushed over how (my child's name) like it was. It's not the money that's the primary focus. As my mother would say "You only get out what you put in", so because this mother put zero effort into organising this event she paid a decent amount of money for, it turned out to be dull and her daughter was heartbroken over it.
This is exactly what I was thinking! I had a “breakfast at Tiffany’s” themed brunch for my sweet 16 and my mom pulled out all the stops even though it was literally just held in our dining room. She got a teal table runner and white table cloth and made cute centerpieces from ribbons & vases we already had. We made the brunch food together and she surprised me with a cake that looked like a Tiffany box. It was amazing and while it probably wasn’t super cheap, it certainly wasn’t in the $1500 range and it was the best! It’s the care, not the cost.
This sounds exactly like my sweet 16! May in Connecticut, had it in my backyard with a fire, party pizzas and plenty of snacks and food. And we camped outside too - some friends in tents, me and my best friend on the trampoline in a sleeping bag! She is still my best friend to this day! That was such a core memory for me and didn’t cost much
I think US-Americans are just brainwashed by the weird culture about having to spend a lot of money and doing extravagant things.
Don't get that at all. I'm German, grew up middle upper/upper class and 200 for a birthday party for a teen is still a really big amount of money, that's not normal at all.
Anything over 500 $ seems insane to me, like they're wannabe celebrities or something.
Yeah this is it. I said almost exactly the same thing. My sweet 16 was almost exactly the same as your party and it was amazing!
I was at boarding school (on lots of financial aid) for my sweet sixteen, and my parents sent me a party in a box! It's such a sweet memory because my parents had such a thoughtful idea and made me feel their presence even though I was a thousand miles away.
I also think the mom in the story could have taught her daughter the lesson by giving her a budget of 1k and letting her plan the party herself. She probably would have put together something really fun and felt really proud!
Girl who was being harassed by adults about her relationship status publicly embarrassing the harassers should definitely not have been scolded by her parents who did nothing to stop the situation. thats crazy to me. who speaks to children like that..
These types of comments are some of the worst you could make to your own child. Like what do they expect, for their daughter to get a boyfriend on command to please them?
@@artorhennot to mention telling her to ignore her gut instincts in order to “give him a chance” that’s literally how and why women are the victims of violence by men. It is so scary that they told her those things. I’m glad she didn’t take any of it to heart.
@@witchassbitch3 yeah, comments like these coming straight from parent are straight up harmful, and bad parenting.
She's 24, so not a kid, which makes it doubly weird her parents told her off for standing up for herself.
@@JustJuan731 “You are who you surround yourself with.”
The looks on Ian and Tommy's faces when that OP dating the guy who wants her friend instead were just what we all felt in that moment. 10/10.
For real. I usually like to draw while listening to this and I look up every now and then for the expressions but at that moment, I had to go full stop and felt the sadness and shock.
I really don't do reddit but I'm close to creating an account just to tell that girl that she's worthy of love and belonging. I understand her fears but she needs to get out of that real quick. I hope there's an update where she confronts him and just walks out.
Literally made the same faces when I was watching
lol i usually draw during these too! artfight ftw
To be fair, it sounded a little fake. At least with the limited amount of info available. Although several parts seem a little embellished, I feel like eavesdropping rarely works out that well. It just seems like something is missing from that one, or that it is fake.
Ian's and Tommy's faces while Shane was reading the story of the guy who "chose the wrong girl" practically brought me to tears of happiness. Just knowing that they would never treat a partner that way... And the three of them encouraging the young lady to leave that monster... They truly warmed my cold calloused heart.
I really like how in this series Shayne always tries to see why people are behaving the way they are and being really opened minded. Really putting that psychology degree to work
Heard a quote about people who study psychology: "They study it to either understand themselves or the people around them"
@@openfly4udefinitely true for me
Yeah it kind of blows my mind when people online just write off somebody as an irreedemable monster based on limited info, much prefer the more evenhanded approach.
i disagree i think he usually makes a lot of assumptions on the people writing the posts and i don't really like that because it often taints his judgment of the person.
@@highdefinition450 He doesn't make a lot of assumptions. That's literally the opposite of what he does. He's one of the most "Well maybe they meant this" or "If they're coming from a place of..." kinds of people reading. At least compared to 99% of the people who go into a post and think they have a full understanding of everyone's background in the post and feels qualified to make an absolute statement. Shayne is a breath of fresh air to these posts in that he's one of the most open minded and fair people when reading these.
I'm surprised how *_normal_* the first story was, and the fact that OP both listened to and understood the comments? Definitely not the regular Reddit insanity
Agreed. Seeing someone go through genuine growth and work towards being a better person is dope.
I hope that dude is doing well and has bettered himself. Sometimes the best thing you can do is recognize you are the problem and work from there.
Sweet 16 party: if you think you child is “entitled” and “spoiled” why not use this as a teaching moment? Have the kid plan the party. This way she learns just how far 1500 dollars actually gets you and she gets exactly what she wants. Of course this would involve you actually being a parent and teaching your kid things like how to budget money and plan a party.
I genuinely don’t think OP and her husband even like their kids in that story
@@dimsufferer9951I instantly
Felt like the mother was jealous of her child.
@@sammedude2kI feel like she’s purposefully not caring and not actually listening to her daughter because she was never able to have that as a teenager
I love that idea!!
@@josiahvaldez1330
I thought the same thing. Sounds like there could be some underlying jealousy/resentment that her kids have it better than she did.
I'm really starting to see Shayne as the responsible adult in this format. The guy is settled in being a good person and I love it.
Yeah the other day I was thinking about like. Famous people who would absolutely shock me if something bad came out about them, Shayne is one of the few
@@ND-kh5yw honestly yeah, but people aren't perfect and we all mess up. I do think if something bad ever did come out, he would do a lot of reflection, offer a sincere apology, and permanently correct it. And sometimes I think how you react to messing up is better than never messing up at all
I love when Father and Dad are in a video together!
Which one's father and which one's dad? 😃
Father, Dad and Babe
@@robbi.sa6174from left to right. Absolute legends.
😂
@@Anfilkinsso far ive gathered ian is father, shayne is dad bonus: anthony is daddy
I just went through a situation like “I overheard my bf say he chose the wrong girl”. Hearing the comments and reactions almost felt personal and definitely what I needed to hear
I’m honestly kinda surprised you guys didn’t have a stronger reaction to the alcohol story. Pressuring a recovering alcoholic to drink is a truly EVIL act. That’s a one and done thing for me. The FIRST TIME you pressure my recovering partner to drink, is the last time. You are no longer in my life. Zero tolerance is the only policy. Anything less is abuse imho
this
EXACTLY
The first time you pressure anyone to drink is the last time for me, even if the person’s only reason is just that they don’t want to that day. Only scumbags peer pressure others to drink
Yess! These people are aweful for tempting a recovering alcoholic.
I understood that it was a group of alcoholics pressuring a non alcoholic to drink. Still bad but not even close to pressuring an addict to use.
My problem with the party story (where the mom threw a party for her daughter and the daughter was upset and felt like she didn’t put in any effort) wasn’t about the party at all but how the mom talks about her daughter. She took every opportunity to call her daughter entitled and insult her, and later goes on to compare her to her other daughter (when she talks about how her other daughter is nothing like her). The problem isn’t that she didn’t want to or wasn’t able to spend money on her daughter, it’s that she doesn’t seem to like her daughter.
And the other problem is the daughter probably knows her mother doesn’t like her
@@helenlewis2510Yup, this is very common in mother daughter relationships. For whatever reason, some mothers feel a resentment towards their child.
“Do you like me?”
“Of course I love you.”
“But do you LIKE me?”
“…”
I wonder if she didn't put balloons up or decorate to make her feel special
@@samanthaschmitz5055probably unconsciously. It feels like the mom just did it to get the daughter off her back and did the bare minimum not because she actually cares.
definitely, especially parents who are raising their children in better circumstances than they had themselves. a lot of resentment can build up
For the non-alcoholic drinks story, I think OP's family need to decide what they love more: OP or alcohol. And if they choose alcohol, OP should stop trying to appease them, because it will never be enough and she deserves better.
When my husband and I got married, we had a dry wedding because we’d been to one too many family functions where a number of family members got drunk and engaged in dangerous behavior. When word got out, people were outraged, and almost a third of the family in question didn’t come.
We definitely remembered who thought we weren’t worth celebrating if we didn’t give them alcohol.
The idea that anyone who "loves you" is willing to miss out on something so important simply because they can't clink their champagne nonstop is heart breaking. I hope you have a group of loved ones that MAKES SURE you are celebrated the way you deserve. @@emmaprice3740
1:10:25
you seem to have forgotten the part where she politely asked them multiple times if they would come back and help clean and they just kind of blew her off. THEN she was like "okay fine I guess I'll take care of it," and that's when all of a sudden they were like "oh well we were going to help" as if they didn't spend the whole weekend explicitly avoiding her attempts to get them to help
yeah i think they just forgot about that part or sth idk
Courtney points it out from behind the camera!
@@starfrog1999 oh my bad i hadnt gotten to that part yet
@@starfrog1999
yeah, that was well after I had left the comment
My immediate thought was "Oh, NOW they know how to respond??" What a bunch of jerks..
A raccoon with a bowtie for sure would have made that birthday party better.
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That would be a NECESSITY! Everyone brings a raccoon with a bowtie or no one's going!!
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i know this reference
Oh man, what was that raccoons name?
The alcohol one was WILD like the entire family being ENRAGED by not having alcohol meanwhile forcing the recovering alcoholic to drink?? I’m dumbfounded by the entire situation
We need the couch guests to have little red flags they can wave over the course of the story 🤣 like when you’re getting those hearing tests when they’re like “raise your hand when you hear the beep” but with the flags
YES!!! That is brilliant.
this is a great idea!
😂
I really hope Smosh sees this LOL
I think this would be great, especially bc i like AITA stories so I can see how other people think or react
They should have normal sized red flags, medium and large 😂
As a recovering alcoholic, I can honestly say a few things:
1 - Even when I was still drinking, I could survive a party or wedding or event without alcohol.
2 - I could definitely differentiate between a cocktail and a mocktail. You f'ing notice by the 3rd drink if you're tipsy or not.
3 - The amount of people who go crazy at being invited to dry parties / weddings / events is f'ing INSANE. If you need alcohol present to even attend, let alone act like a civilized adult, then you need to seek help IMMEDIATELY.
4 - To pressure someone who is a recovering addict, to imbibe the substance they're getting sober from, is DEPLORABLE AND DISGUSTING!!
5 - Drinking Culture is out of control, and people shouldn't be ostracized, shamed, and/or mocked for not wanting to partake in drinking.
6 - There are ZERO EXCUSES to be angry with the hosts for choosing not to serve alcohol. It is THEIR event. YOU are the GUEST. If the shoe was on the other foot, would you appreciate being criticized and berated over YOUR choices for YOUR event?? NO. NO, YOU WOULD NOT.
The sooner people stop trying to normalize drinking / getting drunk at every. f'ing. everything, the sooner we as a society can have a real conversation about the normalization of needing to get f'd up at every. f'ing. everything.
Talk valentina!!
I wanted my wedding reception to be dry and got so much pushback from my in-laws.
@@margaret_adelle That's so sad, in so many ways. I will never understand the entitlement some people have towards things, but especially towards needing to have alcohol at weddings. Even when I drank, if someone was having a dry event, I 100% respected their wishes and never once put up a fight about it. And this is coming from someone who started drinking at 12, and was *very easily* drinking a fifth of vodka a day, by the time I quit 4 months ago. (About to be 36, so that's nearly 24 years of drinking.)
Well said 👏
@@margaret_adelle I’ve been to dry weddings and they’re fun. The worst time I ever had at a wedding was in the middle of nowhere Kentucky and there was no food other than desserts. I was in the wedding party so I was on site all day with no car and no food. I still cannot eat cake balls because I survived an entire day on only those. lol
for the sweet 16 story, I grew up in a cow town, we did not have a whole lot in the way of money. I didn't get a smart phone till I was almost 17 and had a flip phone. My mom made sure my siblings and I got amazing parties. My sweet 16 was Starwars themed and we used pool noodles as light sabers. She got a sheet cake from walmart and made it in the shape of R2D2 (the best character) and decorated it. I had so much fun at that party! The same year it was my older sisters 18th and she wanted it to be movie themed. People came dressed up as movie or TV characters or actors. We even had a red carpet. Both of the parties combined might have been a little over 1k. HOW did the mom spend that and STILL do so little????
The only way to spend so much and do so little is if she didn’t care at all. Which is obviously why daughter is upset.
OP was being cheap in that story, just not the traditional “cheap” people think of. She spent a lot of money sure but not an ounce of effort.
I honestly shed a couple of tears when you read the one about the girl overhearing her boyfriend, it is so sad that after 8 years together he doesn't love her at all and that she has so little self esteem that she still wanted to change his mind after being lied to for 8 years.
What blows my mind about that story, she said she was 25. Which means they got together when she was still a minor if they’ve been together eight years.
That piece of sh!t should've broken up so much earlier in their relationship. That poor girl has had eight years wasted and she can't even see it.
That last story filled me with second-hand indignation. If someone plans and executes a party in your space and doesn't help clean it up, sounds like they don't need to be in your space ever again.
Same. And the thing that pissed me off even more was that they said the friends didn’t drink and everything was non-alcoholic. So it’s not like they all drank and partied too much and that’s why they didn’t clean(not at good excuse at all, it at least it would be something). No, they were all totally sober and still didn’t bother to help her clean up for the party THEY threw. If it were me, those friends would be dropped pretty quickly.
Agree. Years ago for my 18th I came home from school to my house decked out for my birthday by my aunt and SIL. I ended up having a week filled of festivities since my family wanted to go all out, but at the end of all the celebrations everyone helped my dad and I put the furniture back, take down most of the decorations (I wanted to keep the balloons cuz it’s fun 😅) and also throw out all the trash. This is also something they do even when WE only set up and get ready but that parts not relevant. Point is, if you are offering to do something special like this for a loved one, you should be willing to stay and help them out even if you can only do one small task. It’s common courtesy and these people clearly have no manners if they’re gonna make OP clean her own surprise party by herself
@@EStramel09Seriously. I can't imagine being the last person to leave, seeing the house in its post-party state and just... walking out. OP shouldn't have even had to ask. When things start winding down, you start cleaning up. That's... Just what you do.
That story of the girl who threw the surprise party absolutely wrenched my heart. I've been married for just shy of 8 years, and I've never once doubted my husband's love for me, nor he mine for him. We're not perfect by a long shot, but goodness. So sad.
Tommy’s “any party can be rad. You don’t need alcohol” psa was so perfect 🎉
When I was loving it up as a university student I was quite a drinker. At most parties I’d have at least a dozen beers, a few shots, and just get pretty drunk over time. One of my best experiences was when I didn’t want to have a hangover, just drank two beers to start the evening and went non-alcoholic the rest of the night. I remembered more, I had full control over myself, knew what was happening around me, still danced my ass off and had great fun with my friends, and the next morning woke up feeling refreshed. I still like a beer, or a glass of wine, but I prefer a nice mocktail over alcoholic cocktails. I can’t imagine demanding alcohol, especially if there’s someone recovering from addiction in the group.
Growing up, most of my family was religious. The other half is alcoholics. So almost every party growing up was either completely dry or wildly alcoholic. And honestly, when you go to a party with a bunch of people who have only ever gone to parties without alcohol, it's so much better in my opinion. Because everyone has learned how to have fun with other people with without being impaired. And learning how to have fun without being tipsy or anything like that is something that I feel a bunch of people have not had a lesson in and that's sad.
@@DanDanDoei mean yea there is a difference between shotfaced drunk and having like two beers. alcohol does help a party lol even if you don't have a lot
Right? Who needs alcohol to party? I'd like to wake up the next day and actually remember all the coke I did.
Especially as he is know as the drinker bartender guy of Smosh. Probably the best person it could've come from
My entire wedding came out to about $1700 total (minus the photographer that my parents paid for as their gift) and it was AMAZING. You can absolutely throw a great party for $1500. The mom just needed to put in a bit of effort.
You have to point me to your planner when it’s my time 😅🥰
100% I agree. I’m currently planning a board game night with some friends that’s bound to be more fun that that sweet sixteen. I’m hardly spending any money but I’ve put a lot of thought into things like the comfort of the guests, making sure I have enough games that can include the amount of people that have said they’ll be there, selecting games that are similar to games that my friends have enjoyed in the past, etc. Money means nothing compared to the amount of thought you put into something.
my mom threw my party (also notably i come from an EXTREMELY poor family. and I didn't have a sweet 16 exactly but smth close.) for maybe 200 dollars. She got the whole community to chip in and it's something I still remember very foundry from making the posters with my sister to going ti the library to print the buttons with my mom. I feel very sorry for this poor girl who didn't get to have this very american tradition.
So true. If it's planned with love, that comes through no matter how much money was spent. The sad part about that story is how apparent it was that the mother didn't really love her daughter, not enough to show her anyway. I foresee her not being allowed in her daughter's life much in the future
Yeah man mine was $2000 and was legit
At the "I heard my bf say he chose the wrong girl" story, I felt like the boys were talking straight to me. I needed to hear what they were saying to OP.
I hope you listen. I left the wrong one. Dated for a while, frogs mostly but found my perfect prrson and have been in a happy relationship for over 20 years.
42:07 I’ve always appreciated the throughline of healthy masculinity in this show, and the GOBSMACKED way that Ian and Tommy look at each other is a hilarious but poignant example
cringe tf idiotic-_-
Bruh, when Ian whipped his head forward and then leaned forward as the details kept pouring in? Great lol
also 26:47 when they BOTH grimace and look away
I was a waiter at a retirement home. And the old men would make the EXACT same comments to the waitresses. And it would always escalate to inappropriate touches and/or advances unless the manager got involved (which she would upon request). I definitely think this girl nailed it with the “interested” accusation.
Did they have dementia
@@highdefinition450 there were people with dementia, but they were usually well behaved. Often we knew their favorite things and keeping them in a routine kept them from getting stressed. The bad apples were fully mentally capable from what I could tell. And they usually had their wives RIGHT next to them being very oblivious or permissive of his actions. This wasn’t every wife though. Even the elderly are a mixed bag and plenty of couples were happy, respectful, and considerate.
The party clean up one really got me... when I was 22 I was dating a guy who was a raging alcoholic. He would constantly invite his friends over and have a huge party....and no one, absolutely no one ever cleaned anything up! I'd get so mad. I was having to work a ton and I couldn't stand it anymore. So many of his party friends/coworkers hated me foe "being a buzz killer" etc...but unsurprisingly none of them offered THEIR place instead. Finally I realized I was approaching this wrong. I started just leaving the mess and suddenly my place wasn't as fun. I told them I didn't care if they came over, but no one was helping me afterwards... eventually I implemented a couple strategies- there was always underage drinking (19+) which I didn't really support because I didn't want to get in trouble, but kind of realized it was going to happen regardless of how I felt, so I leveraged them into cleaning up after the party from the night or 2 ago before anyone could come over that night. Turns out they felt it was a fair deal because like 4 of them would come over and make it spotless. They'd have to carry out all the garbage, glass bottles etc. The 1st time it was INCREDIBLY dirty and they started realizing that if they cleaned as they went etc it wouldn't be so dirty when it came time to clean. So they went from putting out cigarettes on my rented furniture to yelling at ME to use a coaster, lol. They kept it cleaner than I could have! Apparently they even got better at bussing tables. 😂
My parents always made sure to decorate our small house with as many streamers, balloons, and cool Knick knacks they could afford at the dollar store and it made me feel so loved. Never once did I want anything more. It’s all about feeling that your parents care and make an effort
Yeah, absolutely. Sorry I make really long comments 😅 As a kid I would hear my parents get up in the middle of the night to decorate the house for my birthday and that was f***ing awesome. And I remember all the times I’ve done the same for them because it feels good to contribute to the celebration, even if it’s not much decoration at all and very cheap. I do understand where OPs daughter is coming from tho, cause I grew up in a gentrified neighborhood and I saw my friends and neighbors having big parties and celebrating a lot more than we did and I was definitely jealous and I wanted to feel celebrated like that. And I wanted a sweet 16 too! I think there’s a happy medium to be found, because it’s possible to be grateful for the effort your parents go through to celebrate you and also ask for more on a milestone birthday. It’s not fun to be a teenager and feel like you’re different from everyone else around you, and at 16 you kinda can’t help but feel like you’re the lame poor one out of your group of friends in that situation. I understand where everyone is coming from but ultimately I still think the mom is the AH because she had the conversation with her daughter and she did say she’d do something bigger on a budget for her sweet 16, but ended up ruining it because she didn’t use that budget well at all
I definitely get the feeling from the tone of the OPs post that her kid feels like her mom doesn't care about putting effort into her birthday
It's utterly possible she's a bit spoiled, but based on OPs weird distance from her, I think she just feels like her mom doesn't care.
"My friend's parents put all that work in and then my own mom doesn't even get decorations..." It defo something that would get me down.
Balloons? Decor? Man. I wish I had parents...
Same!! My kids love how I keep birthday steamers up for like a month, but like I spent a lot of time on that balloon arch I better be able to keep that up as long as possible
Absolutely, the daughter likely just wanted her parents to show effort for her and what she would enjoy, cause honestly, it kind of seems like they don’t and didn’t before just based off of the mom saying that she never got stuff like that before as well as her comments about her daughter being “spoiled” and “entitled”, with the venue not being decorated it just showed the daughter that her happiness didn’t matter to her parents and that they don’t care enough to put more than the bare minimum amount of effort for a party into her sweet sixteen which she already expressed to them was important to her.
You guys should do an episode where you read two sides of a the same story- it’s crazy hearing how different stories are from a different perspective lmao
I like this idea! Though, I imagine it’d be pretty hard to find ones where both people told their sides.
If they could find enough of them, that would be really interesting episode
@@PinkyRsmth like r/twohottakes?
YES
I've read one that was about an ex wife being invited to her ex husband's wedding (by the husband, not the bride) to his new wife, and said the bride was a raging jealous woman who didn't want the ex wife to be there because her dress was too pretty. Well then we hear the Brides side of the story, and the ex wife was wearing a red wedding dress as a guest to the Brides wedding. Of course she didn't want her there, she's actively trying to outshine the bride!
40:27 This story absolutely broke my heart. She deserves so much better, she deserves so much love and support, she NEEDS so much love and support. I think that, just like Shane said at the end of this story, Reddit might be the only people telling her she deserves better.
I love watching these videos, and this is the only one I actually cried at... I want to be this girls friend...
It the first story, it was nice to see someone take ownership of the blame and learn from their mistakes. Very refreshing considering that they usually double or triple down.
Courtney became a Sarah Whittle level of director cause their laugh behind the camera is immediately recognizable
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I miss her hope she is doing well 😭🫶🏼
Except Courtney’s better
I had a budgeted sweet 16 at a Drag restaurant with my 2 closest friends, my family, and my cousin. I still remember it and I ended up go back to the same place for my high school graduation party (had the same people for both). Both never went over $2000, and they were so much fun! The budget will never be the problem, the problem is how much effort, time, and appeal you put into it. Having some decorations and a going up to the DJ and saying “hey, cut the trivia out, just play some music please” would’ve gone MILES to not having a crappy relationship with your daughter.
The last story made me so mad, her “friends” knew that 0P is working two jobs and even asked not to have a party and they still threw one and then on top of that left her with the cleanup and moving furniture for something she didn’t even ask for and then try to spin it around on her acting like her asking for help in a timeframe that works with her work schedule is being dramatic. I really hope she cuts them off
And she apologized to them I mean omg.
I literally just made a comment like this, but totally!!!! I can't believe that none of them thought about staying for the clean up, did it come up in planning? And then being pissed about it, and thinking that cleaning up stinking dishes and garbage could be pushed off for 3-4+ days?? Unbelievable lmao
@@idrathergotohell5215also it’s insane that they later said “we were gonna help” when they didn’t even mention that at all when OP would ask! It feels it’s just trying to cover their ass and saying they would’ve helped but without actually meaning it. The audacity of them getting mad at OP is insane.
I know and what Psycho hosts a birthday party at someone else's house without their knowledge? That's so weird
The fact that their gaslighting was able to convince her makes me feel bad. Everyone was telling her that she was in the right to be upset at what they did. Leave her with a huge mess to try and clean up while they know she’s working 2 jobs. They ignore her and then get mad at her for finally cleaning.
I hope she’s able to realize what they did was wrong and she cuts them out
Y'all should definitely do a reddit video with stories that end happy/wholesome. Like updates where everything unexpectedly ends up ok. That would be a nice swing in the other direction after these downers lol...
Yes! I think we need that after some of these stories to restore faith in humanity
They should probably do it once a month or something so it would be something we could look forward to.
Like the go fund me one
5:28 reminds me of some of the friends I used to go to high school with, we would always go to parties but some of them would just stand there awkwardly and not interact with anyone then leave within like an hour of showing up because “we just aren’t feeling the vibe” like bro I have never seen you feel the vibe besides seeing you get unbelievably baked in your room
Very poetic how Shane said; "You've proven you can love someone." It's true, love doesn't always have to be mutual to be valuable, but you shouldn't be entangled with someone like that.
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In my head, I'm cheering for the dude in the first story. At 22, this guy is learning to empathize with his SO and think about how she feels to understand the context of his actions. That's gold right there
Yes like he made a mistake isk if that's enought to consider him an asshole
damn the bar is in hell, huh
@@liaspooked4980He knows how to feel empathy guys hes a real one 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🙏🏻🙏🏻
I think both replies are over-judging. The guy isn't completely bad, and he's learning. I have a lot of respect that he learned that he was wrong and made change from the sound of it.
@@SEAkuaa he’s literally 22 and hasn’t learned proper empathy lmao
I wish we had a million podcasts and shows like this. Mature, understanding, empathetic men talking about real situations in healthy ways. This is critical and I hope more cis men and kids can watch these and grow, rather than fall into toxic influencers.
This is why I prefer this to dedicated Reddit channels
There’s actually a discussion with different views and empathy
That’s why it’s so entertaining! It’s like reading stories with a group of friends
I have charged admission for a birthday party I was throwing for myself once, but it was $20 if you are drinking and free if not. It was open bar, so the money went to covering that cost. And if they didn’t want to pay the $20, there was an option to BYOB. There was also no expectation for gifts.
I was about to comment that’s I’ve been to plenty of house parties where people had a door charge to cover for drinks and food…but it was like $5-$10, not $90!!!!
I’m guessing you asked if that was ok first though right. Either that or come from a culture where it’s more expected to share costs like this. Also 20$ is pretty reasonable for open bar.
I think this sounds acceptable to me as long as disclosed before the party.
Yeah this is definitely how he should have done it ngl
I can get 25 bucks, and I’d still get a gift but 90 is crazy
omg the rude question story makes me so happy. Can't count how many times I've (lesbian) been asked invasive disgusting question from basically strangers and been expected every time to take the high road and be the bigger person.
I legit thought the question was going to be, "Who's the man/wife?", cause that is so freaking common! Ugh! Either way though, if I had been there to hear that comeback, I'd have given the man a standing ovation and CHEERED!
tf is so bad abt being gay homophobic idioz -_- Piece of shit >:(
The amount of times that someone I barely know have followed up me saying I'm asexual with asking me if I masturbate...people don't believe when I say yeah I've been asked that sooooo many time. Once a lady overheard a conversation I was having while walking past, stopped and immediately said "you're asexual? Do you masturbate?" I'd been asked that too many times that month and snapped asking her what the fuck was wrong with her. She thought I was joking at first but I really went off on her. Like jesus would you go up to a random person on the street and ask them if they masturbate?
the non alcoholic party is story is wild. The family is upset that you literally aren't POISONING THEM.
At her age? I’m 25 and never had a partner before, I hope she leaves him and gets help for her insecurities.
I’m obsessed with this videos, I’m so happy they’re a series now 💕
I’m 28 and never been on a date. Soooo. You’re partner with come when it’s the right time.
I completely agree ❤ I'm 24 and never had a partner too.
I prefer to wait and find someone who actually clicks with me than dating/staying with someone just because i'm getting older 😅
i love that a key takeaway from the sweet 16 party is: money ≠ effort
most of my teen birthdays were the same formula every year: we go to a restaurant where we all pay for our own meal, we go to a movie where my mom bought the tickets but my friends buy the snacks.
most of my friends were wealthier than me, but always said how much they loved my birthdays because we literally just got to hang out and have fun out and about. you don’t need much to have fun! you could’ve had chipotle at home but have people dress in a theme and do a cute photo wall.
fun doesn’t have a price tag!
For reals the lack of effort says a lot about the mom and how much she cares about her daughter
No bc literally I turned 19 two months ago and had just broke up with my ex, I wanted to go to Torchys tacos and I was ecstatic, it's my favorite place, just wish my 16th was better since I was having to evacuate for hurricane Delta right after evacuating for Laura and I was so upset and going insane 💀
Mine were usually like that too! It was always the same pizzeria, followed by a movie at the theater close by. And because of when my birthday is, it was pretty often a Marvel movie.
My sixteenth birthday was my favorite one growing up and it was literally just an all day Lord of the Rings marathon at my parents house with I think just 2 of my closest friends and it was amazing 😂
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On the birthday party story with the 16 year old girl, the mother could have told the daughter she could invite a few of her closest friends to go to a concert. Made it a memorable fun time and it would have been cheaper than what she had spent on a party she didn't even put any thought or consideration into. Also she could have gotten some pretty cool decorations at a party store for pretty cheap and had a fun bonding experience with her daughter by including her in choosing a theme and color scheme. Also when the DJ started with the trivia she could have been asked them to stick to music and let the guests make song requests.
Based on how OP talks about what she has bought (or more accurately HASN’T bought) I don’t think she wanted to get her daughter anything special for her 16th, because SHE never would’ve DREAMED to ask HER parents for such and such!!
I don’t know how I could get over a bf saying he hit on me because he didn’t have a chance with my friend. I’d feel lower than the ground.
Especially since even from the start op was married. I do think Jamie is the biggest ah in the story
Tbh it made me mad about their reaction. I feel like men don’t get it lol. Especially because I’m sure her insecurity stemmed from intuition. And she ended up being right. Women only go into “competition” if they sense a threat. I don’t believe she was threatened by the idea of her bf leaving her for his friend. It’s the idea that he found her attractive, would’ve shot his shot if he was more confident(&she wasn’t married). And still became close friends. I would NEVER become close friends with someone I liked even if it didn’t get serious. Also I would never date a guy with a girl “best friend”. I heard a saying that “men are only nice and friendly to women they find attractive.” I live by that. I’ve never met a guy and girl friends duo where they didn’t look like they would date eachother and were on the same attractiveness level or the girl was slightly or really attractive.
I thought I had a lot of genuine guy friends in school, they all ended up confessing, even though I had a boyfriend and made it clear😭.
I would never get over it. I would lose the guy and keep my friend.
Both my sister and my bff are prettier than me, and the hard thing about that is comparison bias. If you stand a more attractive person next to a less attractive person than by comparison the more attractive person looks even better while the less attractive one looks worse. I spent pretty much my whole adolescence nerfing my chances with guys because I had really bad social anxiety and couldn't hardly go anywhere without one of the two. It does put a chip on your shoulder when you're with them and approached by a guy, or a group of guys, and you don't get any attention whatsoever and all of the guys are tripping over each other to talk to and flirt with the person you're with and no one talks to you, even just TALKS to you like making conversation really hurts, or if your friend and her boyfriend try to set you up with his best friend who isn't really interested in you either, but *is* interested in her regardless of the fact that she's taken. That does a serious number on your self esteem growing up.
My boyfriend through the second half of high school and most of college, the man I was expecting to marry, admitted to me once that he had been in a class with my sister the year before he met me and had been interested in and pursued her, but she wasn't interested. Yeah, that hurt. It feels like they're admitting to being happy enough with second place, like saying, "You're okay enough. I can settle." It didn't hurt for long though and in no way contributed to the end of our relationship. I feel like continuing to carry that chip on your shoulder into adulthood shows a serious need for some therapy and self reflection though. My self esteem is entirely my own and isn't affected by or dependent on anyone around me be they family, friends, peers, or complete strangers. Perhaps I've just reached the age of, "No fucks left to give." 😂
@@Just1Norafeels like I needed to read that last paragraph today, thank you for that ❤
The party mom is literally my mom. I felt like shit growing up because I would cry on all my birthdays and I felt ungreatful. It wasn't until a friend got me a 2$ gift that was perfectly picked for me that I realized my moms lack of care was what hurt me.
Exactly, it was definitely not the expense the daughter was upset about, it's the fact the her *mom* couldn't be bothered to do some research and put actual love care and effort into her daughter's 16th
Exactly like the daughter seemed to completely understand that they could not afford an extravagant party and wasn’t resentful of that. But no decorations for your own daughter? Like that comment said, weaponized incompetence.
My dad is similar to tbe mom, grew up very poor and I grew up with guilt my whole life for everything I have. It's very hard.
Unfortunately if you don't like something, it can be seen as ungrateful. We are all entitled to have likes and dislikes, and we all have diff needs and value different things.
Look, Party Mom had no idea what a birthday party needed to look like. It wasn’t intentional because the mom would’ve been very grateful just to get anything when she was younger. It just came down to lack of communication
@@srkh8966and lack of understanding and desire to understand your child
1:02:55 I’m a broke mom, but for big milestone parties, my kids have decorations. Decorations are a HUGE part of a party honestly
The guy from the first story understanding that he’s the problem is more mind blowing than those stories where people get raccoons to a party and steal groceries from the poor
Right!? This sounds crazy, but I almost felt teary hearing someone acknowledging they were wrong and planning to rectify that. It seems so rare these days.
I hope the guy keeps growing.
@@stackels97 I didn’t feel teary, I felt like I was about to get ambushed
@@JodyGoChase Still might. Stay on your toes
@@JodyGoChaseboom, a child
Its startling to me when most people DONT say huh... Guess im the asshole
The girl who was afraid to leave her awful boyfriend - she said her biggest fear was not being able to find someone who will love her. Meanwhile she is literally with a man who doesn’t love her!!! You’re already living your worst nightmare, you have literally nothing to lose! He’s an absolute coward. I hope to god she can open her eyes and see her worth. Lord knows how people spend 8 years not being true to themselves and knowing it.😣
Poor girl was crying because someone told her this exact thing 😢 she’s got some hard days ahead of her but I’m rooting for her
Glad you called the boyfriend a coward because that is exactly what he is he willing wasted 8 years of his and her life and thinks he will have to continue as if he can not do anything, the poor girl deserves far better
He’s whittled down her self image to nothing. Honey, you can find so much better. I’m rooting for her too
No, she was worried about not finding anyone who will be willing to stay with her. Which is a difference that only highlights the rest of your comment. She likely doesn’t think she’s worthy of love and finding someone willing to even spend their life attached to her feels like a win for her even if it makes her miserable
i remember reading the third story a while ago. op also left another small update explaining that the posts had caused her to recall certain memories with jamie that make her feel uncomfortable in hindsight, and she would no longer be going to the party. it was already sad that kate was dealing with her insecurities, but apparently her boyfriend actually was trying to make some moves on op, from how it sounds.
Tu for sharing the update! I had a feeling there had been something from his end😩
Ugh that whole story made me so sad, I hope Kate finds better and for her and OP to repair their friendship!
@@Gamfluentit is VERY implied that they were memories involving him.
Yes!! Jamie definitely likes OP more than he lets on & OP is in denial. It’s already weird that he’s texting with the girl he thought was “too hot for him” 🤕
I'm an 80s baby and we had no money but I got great presents and parties. DIY, caring, effort and being prepared for the fact that her friends had big 16th birthdays.
I had an opposite "Sweet 16" experience. I'm introverted (even more so as a teenager) and my mom loves planning and attending parties. She wanted to throw me a party because she never had a Sweet 16, but I said no because a) I knew my school friends and my family friends wouldn't get along, and b) a lot of people my mom would have invited were not people I wanted to spend my birthday with, but if I didn't invite them, it would have been rude, and c) I hated parties to the extent that I would cry in the bathroom from being overwhelmed sometimes. She told me I was ungrateful and didn't speak to me for hours on the day of my birthday. I spent most of the day in my room being sad and kinda confused. Then the next day it was like everything was fine, and my family just took me out for dinner instead, which was much better than a party would have been.
I was lucky to get $100 spent on me for my party's so I personally think that the daughter could have took it better.Btw my mom did not have the money for it which is ok because I understand that and I love her for trying
@@briarfreeman5795 This. I find it a little weird how many wants to call the mother of that story the a-hole. Stating that she isn't trying ... as if the $1500 materialized out of thin-air and the work involved to have those funds to use required no effort or time. I want to chalk it up to other entitled people defending each other to keep their 'benefits in life' going, or perhaps to justify their own warped 'rights'.
I think my mom was glad that I was introverted, and I was super happy to be gifted with my first computer!! My younger sister is the complete opposite of me but she understood we couldn’t afford it. So she is planning that, when she has enough money, she will throw a party as extravagant as she likes. Doesn’t matter the age, really!!
@@Umega101 If the daughter really wanted to have this amazing party, she could've always planned it herself. The mom gave the budget, and then even helped plan it on top of that. Sounds to me like the daughter (and reddit) is blaming the mom for an oversight they both made. Mom tried, and that's what counts. To me this would be a funny story for the future: "Remember that time we completely forgot about decorations and setup?".
@DaTimmeh
That's the thing though, the mom didn't "forget" the decorations, she dismissed them as unnecessary. She also didn't even bother to check if the venue provided tables and chairs, just assumed that they would. She also didn't bother checking with the dj on what he'd do. Both of these issues would have been fixed with ONE phone call each and she couldn't put in the effort to do so.
I have been to a place like that 'wrong choice', when Shayne said "she must have no friends who hype her up, reddit is the only one who can help her" I burst into tears, it hits too close to home, I'm glad I'm at a better place now, single still but very much happy!!
Same here, I really hope she’s doing better
the girl in the story deserves better and so do you. im so glad youre in a better place ♥️ you deservw the world, dont settle for less, youve got this
For the second last story,
I graduated high school in COVID lockdown. I had a tight knit group of friends and some of us were really looking forward to prom. My mum and I set up a cute prom party in my house and took pictures at the local park. It made for a cute, nice night with balloons and a little potluck and we had a good time, if a little lacklustre. In the end, it was the thought, effort and experience that counted. My mum (and I) put a lot of effort into what we could do, and it was much better than renting an expensive but barebones venue and kids DJ.
Reading reddit has easily become one of my favorites on smosh pit, great for a background listen while doing work
I love to do this at work too!!
i always put these videos on when i cook or clean the kitchen or my room!
So true, I put them on everytime it’s time to be productive even though I’ve already watched them all
Same 😊❤
Can we talk about the incredible amounts of Healthy Masculinity at Smosh? It’s genuinely comforting knowing that there are guys like Ian, Shayne, Tommy, Damien, Noah, Spencer, Keith, etc, to be a solid influence on the next generation of what “men” can & should be. ❤️
Yes, yes we can. ❤
It gives such a good vibe 😎
Yyeess! One of the other ones was about a dad who punished his daughter for a period accident and I swear to God they all were so amazing in their reaction I nearly cried.
@@torismith9360omg yes! I also watched it, they were so aware also of the fact that the might not know how to respond to a period thing since none of them ever had it but they were so like great about it and just are good human beings 😭
Well...when Ian's sincere
39:00 I think you undersold the point: a recovered alcoholic and they are being pressured into drinking. That is sooooooo toxic.
In regards to the last story, it truly is wild that those people threw a whole party and then all left without helping clean up. That’s insane. How do you go to a place, make a mess at that place, and then not clean it up.
and everyone was so evasive when OP was asking for help, leaving it for days without response! shitty
I mean, if the friends are so busy, how difficult would have been for them all to chip in and hire a cleaner as a final once gesture??
@@sarahmadden4645 that is of course an option, but they also could've just everyone do just a little at the end of the party and most of it would have already been done day 0
what's even more insane is how they did it without OP's knowledge. like, they just broke in to her house. wtf???? idc if you're my friend throwing a party or not. you dont just brake into someones house like that.
I could kinda understand if the person didn't mind having a party because they went through all the effort of planning and setting up and it didn't sound like a particularly messy party, but the fact that she explicitly said she didn't want a party and they forced that on her definitely makes it weird. But it's also weird to try and twist their arms into coming back to clean up like just take the 15 minutes to wash the dishes and then distance yourself from these people
My take away from the sweet 16 story is that it's unfortunate that the mom kind of holds her daughter's financial well being against her. She seems to be weaponizing her own poor upbringing instead of being grateful that she can give her daughter better. She didn't put a lot of effort into the party but since she spent good money on it, she calls her daughter entitled for not enjoying it. And I think she's using extroverted and introverted wrong. Lol I hope she learns to enjoy the experiences she's able to give her children instead of being stuck in the past of her own childhood.
Finally I’m glad someone else thinks this. The whole time when she’s talking about how poor her upbringing was it was clear she was projecting onto her kids. Even with the brag of “I don’t buy them video games and stuff so they are not spoiled” I felt that she just resents getting her kids anything and spending money on them at all.
You're so right about the projecting because she was the one who was making it all about the money and making her seem entitled but her daughter didn't really seem to care as much about the amount of money. Granted, she did use the word "cheap" but 16 year olds (like any human really) sometimes say things they don't really mean in a way they don't really mean it which is why they need their parents to understand them and teach them the correct way to communicate their feelings.
I think it’s already batshit for a mom to air out an argument between her and her teenage daughter on the internet for strangers to potentially criticize her daughter’s behavior. Not a doubt in my mind that this is just a bad mom with very conditional love and she’s manipulating this girl into thinking that she’s incredibly spoiled, materialistic and ungrateful by using her OWN upbringing (and pointing out how different they are, TOTALLY unnecessary to the story so very telling she included it) when her daughter seems to be going through very normal teenage things and was upset by her mom’s lack of effort and the regular amount of embarrassed because of her party being worse than her friends’ parties. Also I think there are plenty of ways to teach a kid that you can’t get everything you want without withholding so many things that their peers have. By no means do you have to give your kid everything but holding back just for the sake of the lesson makes me think it’s more of a punishment or testament to the mom not taking responsibility for her own poor parenting skills.
Yeah I didn't really get what her daughter being "extroverted" really had to do with anything. And frankly the standards she seems to hold her daughter to are bizarre. She talks about her own daughter like she's her roommate or something. I do think the daughter was reacting the lack of effort and affection in the party which also seems to color their relationship in general, honestly she doesn't seem like the type of person who really wanted to have kids if this is what she thinks of them. She's the one making everything about money, not her daughter, she equates having spent a lot of money with putting care and effort in, when she very clearly didn't.
Agreed. You can let your kids have stuff and teach them not to be entitled.
My son has his own switch lite, has since he was 5 or 6. It's got a cracked screen and the joystick drifts like crazy but he hasn't once complained about wanting a new one. We have always been pen about not being able to afford certain things so it kind of breaks my heart when I see his switch. Thankfully he's getting a new one (full size) at Christmas.
Between my mom and my sis, they spend roughly the same amount on my quinceañera. It was the best! And I still remember it. The most expensive thing was the cake and the dress. Everything else my mom either made the decorations herself, or bought little trinkets that she fixed up from dollar tree. We also had my family come in and pitch in to help with food.
Now hear me out....a party where the theme is that everyone dresses frumpy and we just vibe.
Just send me the invite and I’ll be there
Silly hats only
Frumpy outfit contest
@@pamelah1220
The silliest hat I have is a custom made hat with the Illuminati logo on it.
I had it made for a D&D campaign I once ran, but haven't had a reason to wear it since.
You might be onto something but, and just hear me out... what if onesies?
For the first story, my boyfriend and I both have an understanding of each other's introvert levels and he knows how exhausted I get at parties. We've never had this specific situation happen because our birthday parties have always been video games with like two other friends and some family, but even if we're out on dates or at family gatherings, if one of us gets tired we don't have an issue with the other leaving.
The big difference here is that he left to go out with HIS OWN FRIENDS to a BAR because he didn't like the music. Complete A-hole behavior. As she said, it wouldn't have been a big issue of he'd just done home, but going to hang out somewhere else is awful
YUUUP. I was thinking the same thing. I’m on the autistic spectrum and when I’m around certain personalities I just get drained and go nonverbal and need to vanish. I don’t go to a lot of parties for this reason, but if I was dating someone for over a year and they wanted me at their party, I’d make an effort to be there the whole time - and yet, if I needed to vanish, I’d text them about it and I’d hope that they knew me well enough to understand.
This absolutely isn’t that situation. He’s not an introvert who ran out of battery, he’s someone who was used to a relationship with an ex that felt like he was still single, and now that he’s being asked to act like he’s a partner, he reacted as if he was still single. At least he recognized all of that and hopefully is going to make an effort to change
Yeah I agree, I understand hating crowds and needing space but it comes off more like “this party isn’t fun for me so I’m going to bounce to see friends and see you later” but… it was her birthday 😂 lol. Wow. His friends were already at the party too.
I mean think about OP admitting that he only does things he likes and that his hopefully now ex-girlfriend even if she has no interest in the joins
Yet he could care less about anything his girlfriend likes or enjoys
@@GamfluentPerfectly explained! When it comes to the argument of a relationship with a 10-15 year age difference, the argument always seems to end with "They're both adults they can do whatever they want". So in this situation the bf is NOT an a-hole. I don't know why there's a mentality of "I have to ask my gf if I can go somewhere like I'm asking my mother" 😂 The gf is an absolute A-hole for "demanding" him to stay and then turning into an absolute spoiled child with the whole "my sister can help me clean and my mother can take me home"
@@HealthyObbsession.tell me you didn’t finish the story without telling me you didn’t finish the story
It is INSANE how much this format helps me cope with my breakup?! Guys, keep doing what you're doing. I bet it helps alot of people out there who don't have friends to tell them to get over it. It might seem naive but Smosh reading Reddit Storys is very soothing to me, knowing I was NOT the asshole. (My ex boyfriend at least resembled 6 assholes that you guys went through reading these stories)
Tommy I believe is a party guy. Ian I believe thinks he's a party guy. Shayne is in bed by 9pm.
Too accurate.
Okay man but how else is he supposed to be up at 5:30 to start his warm ups and make his 6:00 protein shake.
Shayne gotta get up early to go to the gym. No time for parties
Old man Shayne
The alcohol story reminded me of when my mom pressured me to get cross faded at her birthday. I was of legal age and everything, but I never really liked alcohol and I didn't like the feeling of being high. Her party was at home and she kept pushing a beer at me and her friends kept pushing a blunt on me and making fun of me when I said I didn't want to. So I ended up doing both and I had such an awful breakdown. I don't like to remember how it felt. She recorded me freaking out and was laughing. Now I'm firm about never doing either, or at least definitely not at the same time.
I’m sorry you went through that it sounds kind of traumatic tbh
I hope you never talk to your mom again. What a bitch.
@@ellierhiannon9483 it sounds traumatic period
How awful
I love Ian basically explaining how low the bar is "compared to what I normally hear, this isnt that bad"
My WEDDING wasn't even $1500, and it was absolutely gorgeous. However, I actually did my RESEARCH. We looked into multiple venues, and ended up going with a nice Greek restaurant that had a banquet hall on the second floor. The ceiling had a wooden trellis with faux vines woven through it, so it gave the impression of sunlight filtering through vines on a pavilion in Greece. There were beautiful murals of Santorini painted on the walls. They provided tables, chairs, tablecloths, and even vases with gorgeous faux white and lavender flowers. We barely had to decorate. It doesn't take a lot of money to have a beautiful party/wedding/etc, it just takes EFFORT. Which that mom didn't put in. At first I was indignant that a teenager would act so bratty. However, the comments completely changed my mind. The mom didn't seem to CARE, which I think is the main reason the daughter is upset. Poor kid.
That’s incredible!! I’m glad you were able to have a wedding for an amazing cost!
Agreed, the daughter likely just wanted to be shown that her parents care, and with how the party turned out it just showed her that her parents don’t and won’t put in any effort despite the daughter expressing an interest in it. It’s like someone getting a person an expensive gift, like a bike, knowing beforehand that the person doesn’t like or do whatever was given to them. And then getting mad that the gift wasn’t appreciated to the fullest because it was expensive, but no actual thought went into it.
Exactly! I have parents like that, who would say yes, not put in any effort, then call me bratty and unappreciative when I just wanted to feel understood.
Wtf. She lucky she even had a party. Also I call bullshit on OP comment. Your not getting any venue anywhere for less then $3000. Decorations for the room and food already put you $5000 in depending on what you get🤦🏿♂️
@@GojosBackHand Well aren't you pleasant! lol, did you even read my post?
The story about the family who drinks trying to force the boyfriend who was a RECOVERED ALCOHOLIC to drink was wild. The whole culture around alcohol and how not drinking, for whatever reason, is some kind of character flaw honestly speaks to a major addiction issue that we've normalized.
I adore these men. Their ability to be humorous and empathetic makes me happy.
Maybe it’s because I’ve watched the handful of videos where she’s mentioned it before but I so desperately want an entire episode based on MLM horror stories with Jackie because I know her comments will be so entertaining
Lmao at first I read mlm as “men who love men” and that would be great too, but then I saw Jackie and I was like “what why would she know about that”
@@derekhasabrainsame I was so confused for a min😂
We need her and Noah together. They will not hold back.
That last story made me super sad for OP. Those are some very neglectful and inconsiderate friends that she has, the person that plans/sets up/hosts the party is responsible for the party (unless otherwise organized) as it is their project, meaning the cleanup afterwards is also a part of their project. Them leaving dirty dishes and trash in and around her house for multiple days when they were aware how busy her life was and that she had said that she would not be able to handle the work of a birthday event at that time, is so beyond rude,, i would personally want an entirely new group of friends but i dont even know how much my trust in having friends would be damaged at that point ☹️
right!! it kinda irks me non of them in the video brought up the point about how they specifically said they don’t want/ have time for an event
Right! Like it's their responsibility to clean up after they prepared the party. If they're too tired after the party, they can still clean up a bit and continue to finish the next day or something. I never had a big birthday party or anything like this (don't have friends) but I thought this was common sense? I hope the OP found better friends.
I have been binge-watching these redit stories nonstop this weekend.
With relation to the whole “stooping down to her level” in the rude question with rude question story, there’s a great Brennan LM quote from an adventuring party episode where he compares that type of thought with saying, “Hey I’m gonna push you down and step on your head, but when you try to move your head out from under my foot, you can’t hurt me.”
I was in a relationship for 12 years just to be told he didn't love me. I understand that girl's pain and her huge insecurities. I wish I could tell her that she is enough.
I spent two years in a situationship only for him to say he "sort of cares" about me 🤡
@@CometQueen meanwhile there's me, I bounced the moment the bf of 1 month said my family is egotistical just cuz we love talking about our worklife and gossip about colleagues which fed into his own insecurity about not having a job. I was like wow I don't need this negativity in my life dawg. Left him in the dust like ✨that✨
@@trishasurangana2278 so proud of you! I cut guys as soon as they reveal how shitty they are usually. This one hooked me :(
12 years is crazy! I hope you're doing better now. glad you could find your worth ♥
Omg that chick who said she heard the bf say he doesn’t love her n a bunch of other disgusting comments….i wish I could hug her n speak words of affirmation to her every day until she started to believe them. That story had me choking bad tears. I hope she left his ass n is in such a glow up era. 🥺♥️
This series is insane and that’s why I love it- why do people not have basic decency 💀
I think most people are relatively sane, but the internet lets everyone put their thoughts out there.
In the US alone there's over 300 million people.
If just one percent of the US population was crazy, that's still 3 million people, and all of those people have the ability to make comments, post videos, and find forums where other people have the same crazy thoughts.
@@dubiousinformation1756 ^^^^^^
I bit a dog once...
The worst part of the story with the 16th birthday party is that the OP's daughter ABSOLUTELY feels like her mother does not care or love her. OP sounds like she doesnt like her own child for being independant and different from how she "thought" she was going to be.
Exactly. Nuts to post a story for the internet to criticize your teenage daughter in the first place. And she clearly feels superior to her daughter based on their interests when like hey man, that’s your DAUGHTER, don’t have one of her being an extrovert makes you feel threatened and not care about her feelings
you can’t expect your child to be born a certain way and have certain personality traits. love them for who they are, and her kid being an extrovert really isn’t something to complain about. that’s just how she is and it’s so sad that her own mother doesn’t think that’s good enough for her.
With the way the daughter is acting so spoiled and obviously hates her parents for not being rich so who would like her?
I relate to that so hard. I once used grease paint around my eye for a Halloween costume and the next day my face broke out badly in hives once I was in school. I went to the nurses office but even hydrocortisone cream has to be provided by a parent. I called my mom at work, a few miles away, a 10 min drive at most (she was the nurse at one of the elementary schools in our school district), and asked her if she could bring me some, even hours later during her lunch break if necessary. She scolded me for calling her and said she was far too busy. I got home that afternoon and took Benadryl, put cream on it, and fell asleep on the couch. When she got home with my sister (Mom would bring her to high school and back because the two schools were basically joined and my sister would walk over before and after.) I woke up and she saw my face, which was only half as swollen and red as it had been and she gasped at me and sharply said, "Nora! Why didn't you tell me it was this bad! You should have insisted that I bring you something!" I was frustrated because I. Did. My school's nurse even told her that I really needed some medicine. But you, the parent, are scolding your *child* for not *demanding* that you, the parent, do something that they've flat out refused to do?! What kind of screwed up backward logic is that? The reality is that she had painted me in her mind since I was little as a needy drama queen, and no matter what I said I was always exaggerating and things were never as bad as I said. Turns out I actually have a lot of health problems! Who knew! (Me. I knew.) Was I needy? Yes. All kids need their parents. They're called your dependants because they depend on you.
Very different situation, I know, but it's the same kind of thing with blaming the daughter for the mother's lack of care. If you don't put in the effort with your child then they are going to know, especially if they have a sibling who is obviously treated differently.
You get used to agreeing with whatever bare minimum you can get because at least it's not nothing. It feels like an Oliver Twist moment. If you try to push for more, you're liable to get nothing instead.
"Moral boundaries are different at parties"
*war flashbacks to my early 20s*
Thanks Shayne xD
Please don't work with better help, they leak client information and hire unlicensed therapists. They're currently in a lawsuit for the information problem
THIS!
Omg them too? Can’t trust any sponsors these days.
I'm p sure they're also known to straight up ghost people/ignore them for long periods of time
Which is also wrong AF!! Even your primary care doctor has to send you a letter before officially dropping you
Was going to say it myself. Hope more people see this!!
I think it’d be cool if you did like an AITA tier list episode - read out the titles of each post and get the guests to rank them in a sort of tier list, then read through them all and edit the tier list at the end. It might be cool to see just how misleading the titles can be
Ooo that’d be fun!!
This would be a great sort of milestone episode!!
yooooo that's a great idea
To the post about the surprise party that left a mess behind; I’ve never ever left a party of my friends before pitching in to clean up. This was the worst for that person to have to deal with.
That mother from the Sweet 16 story boiled my blood. That woman will be lucky if either kid still talks to her once they hit 18. The way she talks so passive aggressively about her own child repeatedly and how her child's enjoyment of her own birthday party wasn't an equal priority with the budgeting if at all. And, instead of admitting her own insecurities with being a shitty parent as well as not knowing how to throw a party on a budget, she then puts some blame back on her daughter for approving the decisions but not being happy with the end results? When her daughter probably assumed her mom at least knew what she was doing and had her best interests at heart?
She doesn't even talk about her child like she realizes she's A CHILD- she refers to her like she's an annoying younger co-worker she barely tolerates and not someone she's responsible for raising and nurturing. She even admits to immediately shutting down her daughter when she first requested the Sweet 16 when she should've used it as an opportunity to talk frankly about the financial feasibility for their family and how those bat mitzvahs required probably years of saving, planning, and hard work on behalf of the other parents.
From the background the mom gives, it sounds like she grew up probably too aware of her family's financial instability, creating a lot of anxiety and continuing insecurity, and overcorrected in completely shielding her children from any awareness of their family's finances. You don't have to share ALL the details but at least talk to your kid about realistic expectations for your family's finances and priorities before you accuse your child of being entitled for asking for what her peers have when you haven't given her any reasons or explanations of why things are different for her. You can't teach your children lessons on that shit if you don't give them actual context for why they're being, in their perspective, deprived compared to their peers. She created that entitlement just by not giving her daughter context for her own life situation and then went to the internet screaming about how her child just magically became an entitled monster who couldn't appreciate the half-assed party that was only agreed to in bad faith just to shut the kid up.
Something that really pissed me off is that despite this anxiety with spending money on something like a party, she didn’t follow up or look into what she was so reluctant to spend money on! I didn’t suffer from financial issues, but I feel like in a poor financial situation; it’s even more important that you look into what you’re spending money on so you know you’re getting your money’s worth!
I'm skeptical of the whole story. All her kid's friends are rich, but she isn't? If OP saved and worked hard to send her kid to an expensive private school, why isn't that mentioned in the story? It seems pretty important. OP sounds like one of those well-off people who just hoard their money and never spend it.
@@afckingegg7585yes I think so to. I think it has more to do with hoarding money then not having enough, because if i only had $1,500 to spare I’d make sure that dollar stretched to do way more then expected, I wouldn’t just be get a cheap venue, get a basic DJ. I’d be meticulous with those funds.