2020 Honda Fireblade SP vs RSV41100 | Superbike Shootout!!
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- There is an all new 2020 Honda Fireblade in town so its only right we compare it to our winner last time out the 2020 RSV41100 Factory. So the question is which one is the best!
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With the ecu unlocked the CBR will be a maniac unleashed, I recon.
The CBR makes similar peak power but needs to be kept on the boil to be real fast as the power band is R6-like in nature, almost 2 stroke like, goes from nothing to insanity... 214 hp is nothing to sneeze at for sure, and the weight difference between the 2 is a few lbs… I know top end high speed drag races the CBR is a bit faster, and on the track it’s also quite a bit faster… that probably has more to do with gearing though, that’s both bikes being unlocked…
For some reason unlocking the ecu screws the ecu up? =lose traction control, wheelie control abs . Source Brent tune video on you tube .Has a massive over heating problem , ecu burning up Hondas big mistake
@@jake88ciI believe that issue has been resolved now. It was a really hard ecu to crack. The fireblade is definitely faster but it’s so hard to beat that Moto gp aprilia sound. Since I ride more on highway and interstate roads, the fireblade would probably be more suited for me as I could open it up.
I mean, give the rsv4 a gabro tune, I don’t think a tuned fireblade can hang
Really like the guest presenter, he’s smart and to the point.
when i see my 2 dream bikes in 1 frame
*INSTENSE CLICKING THE THUMBNAIL*
Can’t beat the MotoGP sound of the Aprilia!
Great review again Chops 😊👍.l must admit that I personally think that is probably the best looking blade that Honda has made for a while. The Aprillia is still a work of art though.
The Pirate’s choice of motorcycle CBR1000RR-RR-RRRR-RRRRRR
Those bloody permanently running indicators though....FFS
So, what you are saying is I should buy both? Duly noted haha.
Thanks for the video, chopsy, this format is absolutely great!
Haha thanks Rutger! 👍
The double act on this type of review is spot on Chops! Great work on the channel as usual. I think the new Honda is absolutely mint looking and the sound is truly awesome. Totally nuts! The quality is evident everywhere you look on it.Though, I'm an RSV fan and that bike is simply awesome. The soundtrack from the RSV is there right from tickover. And it's got more go lower down. Both great bikes and I'd be happy as Larry with either of them.
Thanks Solivg appreciated buddy 👍
You hit the nail on the head when you said about the blades flatness in low revs being great in town to keep speed down. I’m pretty sure that Honda thought about this and noticed it themselves (who develops a bike as well as Honda?!! ) If are out on the fast roads going for it , you keep it in the revs!!! Simple. I would see it as a bonus.
Really like the double act, two mates talking bikes - slightly different views which builds a better picture of the bikes. For me though as the handling on the top bikes is way better than you can use on the road, it comes down to power usability, sound, some comfort and then looks - in that order, the Aprilia with it's midrange and perfect sound would get my money.
To put this into perspective though, in the latter half of 2006 we were selling the fabulous GSXR1000K6 for 6k on the road !!!!!!!
In my opinion, the blade sounds like a louder 954.
But the Aprilla has it any day any time for me.
BMW S1000RR and the GSXR1000R for me both fantastic sport bikes for the road! Comfortable with lots of power and torque through the entire rev range!
Love these reviews - best bike reviews on the net! Amazing!
That Honda sounds incredible for a stock Japanese bike
I know, I can’t believe I am saying this but I think it sounds better than the Aprilia
Because it comes with an akrapovic exhaust system as stock, which makes it damn awesome!
@@juanvargas3475 the cbr Sounds Amazing i am a Cbr driver,and yes the new sounds incredible good.But lets be onest the Aprilia is the only one that sound better than any Bike in the World.Nothing commes close to the GP Sound as a Aprilia.I try the rsv4 in Stock and eaven on Track with a full System.I mean thas mind blowing.I have ride a lot of diffrend Bikes on Track soundwise is nothin close to the RSV4.
@@johnnyblaze1372 CBX 1050, r6/600RR with toce, s1000RR with sc project???
@@rabidev.4938 no, not a chance.
Well that was fun Chopsy. I always value your real world tests. Still can't afford new but the 19--21's are finally doable. Cheers.
Just wanted to say I really appreciate your content. You're thoughtful, thorough and a little crazy sometimes on these machines =). Also, as a motorcycle lover I'm jealous of all the bikes you get to test. Keep up the good work Chopsy, every upload you create makes my day better. PS: I am an American and want to visit the UK (when covid crisis is over). Where should I go for a good bike rental and what cities have you fallen in love with in terms of riding?
Whenever you talked about the Fireblade's engine characteristics, I'd swear that you were describing my old R6 🤔 It's like a 1000cc supersport.
Thorough review as usual guys 👍🏼
Yup totally agree with you.. My old CBR 600 to a T!
Good reviews, roll on test really damming, would agree with the few bikes for that price policy.
Great review Guys. I think it will be the Aprilia for me next year. It will be my last sports bike as I am 52 and they are getting harder to get comfortable on. Have you thought about comparing First versions Sports bikes against their latest incarnations ?
Another brilliant review, an idea for next time do it as a secret ballet so neither can influence the others score 🤔
Choperoo and the G man strike again, well done men I knew I could relay on you to come up with a very entertaining but interesting review, good work great to see the dynamic duo racing down the tarmac to save mankind from covid boredom.
Haha thanks Colin 👍
You two work well together. Enjoy this format of video guys. Lovely job 👍
I hear another lockdown for the the U.K. - maybe some garage time on the Hypermotard?? Great review format - keep it going.
Yes you're right Paul it is 😫 until my cylinders arrive I'm afraid I'm stuck and cannot continue with the Hyper build
I love these shootouts! I would like you to do a S1000XR vs. Multistrada 1260S in the same format.
Cruise control on ANY road bike is always great… nice to see a manufacturer like Aprilia realize this fact so effectively
With all the might of HRC, why did they not make the blade a V4? It’s not like they haven’t done it before. It still sounds amazing. Funny to think that a straight four at full chat should sound nostalgic.
They wouldn't call it a fireblade itd be a vfr. The defining characteristic of the fireblade is the engine type. VTR1000 was v twin r . Vfr is v four r. Cbr is a cb (typically a parallel motor) r. Old vt500 came in c and f. V twin 500 cruiser. V twin 500 faired. V twin 500 ascot. Honda is really easy to understand their naming system its like bmw but they actually stick to their own rules.
A V4 1000cc wouldn't be a Blade - there have been so many rumours and false dawns about a possible RVF 1000 but alas they are still a distant dream.
It's funny but I still prefer the noise of a screaming inline 4 cylinder........they just sound fast.
@@deanharris9331 i 100 percent agree. Our at least like them both a lot. But normal 4 cylinder engines more
Great format. Your channel keeps getting better!
Roll on 100k subs...
Loving the comparison videos chopsy when we are out of the pandemic we need a tour with you gregg and womble!
Really like this friend of yours!! Excellent points he makes. You guys did excellent!!! Very entertaining!! Love the Japanese Pagoda!!
Wow, Chopsy goes Fireblade 😎finally! Good choice sir, it does look and sound quality. I do wonder how the professional race teams get them off the line quickly at the start of a race due to their lack of low down grunt? The RSV4 left the blade for dead on your roll on tests.
Flat, flat flat 😉. Oh! And I still want a LCR tee shirt with that on by the way😁
To launch quickly you would need to rev the bike to 8k then feather the clutch out. That way you avoid the flat spot 😁
Love these shootout outs John, fantastic real world insight and scoring method most would use in their noggin, unbeknownst maybe, before purchase? Greg is worth keeping for sure, great insight and knowledge. Good job as always John!
Thanks Mark 👍
So great review, and thank you so much for offering 4k 60 fps quality image👌 Greetings from Paris🤙
I think the question is wether you can live with the characteristics of the Blade. It sounds like too much of a compromise for a road bike. I do think the new Blade is more desirable but if I was shopping I’d buy a pre reg/demo RSV4, have a bit more comfort and that soundtrack. Maybe the Honda would help me keep the licence a bit longer.. 🤷♂️ Both are stunning.. ❤️
Took a shot every time wrists was mentioned, I can’t walk.
Haha 😂
Great review / comparison- you 2 work well together - very watchable, top marks !
normally im all about those mv agustas but something abou tthat honda noise is so great to my ears
Loving the new assessment method for the man in the street bike.Keep it up.Thks JHB-SA.
Already watched the full length vid on Patreon...loved it, thanks Chopsy. The low down grunt would win it for me being a road rider.
Thanks James 👍
Great vid. Really enjoy you guys doing these comparisons & endless entertaining possibilities!! Although I think some more real world affordable comparisons would be great too if poss.
Fireblade looks really sexy. Best damn looking current sportbike❤
I think the fire blade sounds really good just different from the Italians
Really like these comparison videos, and the crack between the two of you, your smashing it chopsy
Thanks Simon
I remember not that long ago Kawasaki getting a hard time on most tests for the 10R needing revs and having long gearing. Looks like Honda have pulled the same trick but most people don't seem to be giving it the hard time for some reason. Good to see you guys kept it honest.
I get why they do it - if you want a track gearbox you want a long first and very close ratio's after that then they just up the final with sprockets to make it a road bike. I find it really irritating on a road though. Just as you come out of a corner at a lowish speed and want it to just grunt it won't and you sit there with grip to spare waiting for it to wake up. Then by the time it does wake up you're back in a corner and so it goes on.
Fun road bikes don't benefit from that kind of gearing optimisation so Honda saying its a track bike is either fair enough or a cop out depending on how you see it.
Personally I hated it when 600's turned into rev boxes but thats worse on a thou.
For me the blade wins the beauty contest but by a whisker as they are both fantastic bikes. Really enjoyed watching this along with the other reviews you have done. Thanks
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Thanks Glen 👍
That sound of the RSV4 is 👌 I must say !!
I have the impression that both of your hearts lean toward the Honda !!!
This was a most excellent video!
Watching two kids in a candy shop!
I purchased a Tuono Factory this summer based partially on your review.... Having said that I did a bunch of test rides and research on my own. My other bike is an '89 CBR 600 and it sounds like Honda power delivery hasn't changed in decades, lol! It's a total Jeckle and Hyde around 6000RPM... As for the technology well there's carbs vs EFI and then some. All said and done, it sounds like I need to save up for the RRR, damn it!🤣
The Blade is over the top on pricing and for performance Honda always seem to leave something on the table but Honda has always been soft on performance across the brand JMO , I guess it’s called warranty protection
The Blade has 215 hp, that’s not exactly leaving anything on the table… it’s a street legal track rig that humiliates R1’s…
Chops - we all know you want the RSV! And so do i ;)
Enjoying the two handers Chopsie, great content
Sorted ‘old’ bike vs 2020 RSV4
Aprilia for me i love it more than just the sound of that V4
Greg and John, are to dual bike reviews, are what Baron and Alastair are to BBB adventures. MUST SEE TV!!! Content is incredible Chops!! Keep it up Greg, kudos to you as well, enjoy what you’ve brought to the table👍🏻🔝🎥🎬🆒
Very kind of you to say Mr Grey 👍👍
The blade looks great but you would soon get sick of your mates wasting you out of the corners and imagine the depreciation on the blue after 2 years . Around 10 grand I would say ,,, ouch!
Great video as always. Would like to see a comparison of the new Aprilia 660 sports bike and the Yamaha R6.
On fly bys I actually preferred the Blade 👌🏻
Damn Chops! Quit whining about cruise control you old geezer. I'm 71 and cannot for the life of me understand everyone jumping up and down for rider modes, abs, traction control, wheelie control, etc., etc. What in Gods name is your right wrist for??? I have thought about it at great length and have come to the conclusion I wouldn't buy a bike older than about 2005 but it would depended on what the bike had. I ride/commute everyday (can just about do that everyday in Fort Worth, Texas) and do about all my on maintenance which is another reason I don't want all the electronics. In all fairness all the new bikes will be E bikes in about 10-15 years and I will be gone by then (thank you Lord) Truly love your channel and keep up the good work!! Well, have to go start tearing down my bike to do a valve check on the SV. You Be Safe.
Probably one of the best 30 minutes spend on RUclips looking for something to fill the motorcycle craving hole when one can't go for a ride!! Super confident as usual for me it would be RSV4 but on looks alone I have to give it to the Fireblade especially in this paint job!!
I'm sad that you sold your GSXR1000R cause I would love to see all the "big buck" bikes being compared to an average Jo affordable pride and joy with some add ons!! And Your GSXR1000R was a perfect example what one should spend the save money over the newest and greatest (but very expensive) new line of Superbikes! Cause I recon one can pick a brand new GSXR1000R and with the money saived you go exhaust ecu remapping rear shock and carbon wheels and still you would have some money left!
Thanks matey appreciated 👍👍 yeah my old GSXR would have been great to test against these
@@LambChopRides I know that you did a very extensive coverage of the GSXR1000R but apparently the 2020 model has some some front brake upgrades so you can squeeze a qick ride review of the affordable 1000cc sport bike? A qick rundown of the cheepest opinion of the 1000cc squad? Basick ZX10R R1 Fireblade and GSXR1000/R pretty please cause it is lovely to see all the new bikes but well lets face it especially this days not many people can put donw over 20 large for a new Toy plus once you do U are to scared to use it propaly! And if you go PCP route well 3-4K miles per year it's just not worth having a bike.
Great review. Love the format, more of these please.
Thanks matey 👍
I've ridden a Blade to work and back(two different blades to be accurate) for the last six years, a round trip of 122 miles in complete comfort, so when I tested the RR-R I tried to replicate my daily commute but had to turn back half way through the ride because of the pain, IMO Honda have shot themselves in the foot with the 2020 blade, not all of us are track day fanatics so I'll be opting for the S1000RR as the replacement for my 2016 blade.
It's almost like a race to make the most uncomfortable bike. It's the reason why so many people have purchased naked bikes instead. Pretty soon, they'll have the foot pegs so high and front end so low, you'll have to be 4ft tall to be comfortable. I'm with you, I'm not a track day guy. I'll watch the professionals have at it. The BMW is the good choice.
@@Bredaxe I agree with you 100%, if I didn't do 80 miles of my commute a day on the motorway I'd definitely go for a naked middleweight or super naked.
@@AndrasMihalyi Thereby alienating customers who buy and change their road friendly blades on a regular basis.
Will be interesting to see if a tune (map, exhaust etc) puts some needed mid range in the Honda.
before I die I want to see the Fireblade V4, I like Honda but I love Aprilia RSv4
Cannot wait for the new ZX10R comparison with RSV4
They tested the 2010 fireblade against this new one on the road and bike magazine much preferred the old bike by far!
Of course its better in every way. No excessive electronic intervention. Good power and light weight tuned to rip a canyon more than run the track all day. A lot of people flamed it back then for not having the top speed of the other 3 big players but its the riders bike out of them. The new one is just a race bike motor with a whole lot of gadgets to wow and dazzle you, and ride the bike for you. 2010 was the swan song year for riders motorcycles. Just like a drivers car. If you want one you gotta buy used by at least 10 years
@@monkmoto1887 couldn't agree more👍
Yet another entertaining review. Well done from the pair of you. Still have no idea who "John" is 😄 LCR you need to give Greg an alias! 😄 I can watch your reviews, or whatever you put on your channel, any time of the day,with whoever is in the room. Quality, and you don't need to be offensive to get your point across. As some others do. Brilliant guys! Keep you score cards to look back on!
Thanks matey appreciate the kind words really do 👍
Good review. It's always nice to hear what people feel and think when they ride a bike. But that race on 3rd gear was misleading; it's almost like you guys don't understand redline and gearing :D
great team between the two of you. I pissed myself watching the rolling start in third gear. The CBR may as well have been a scooter
If I sold both my cars and my AT......I still couldn't afford the new blade. Gutted. Amazing vid as always 👌
Yeah it's some 🤑🤑 isnt it!
If videos had a love button instead of like I'd of clicked it. Another awesome video, bringing me closer to buying some LCR merchandise. Fair play, you've ruined my youtubing experience and made all other bike review channels feel like there lacking something.
Thanks very much Mamb 👍👍💯💪
Great vid as usual really enjoy these head to head tests
Glad you like them!
Great vid guys, both real nice bikes...
Good review. Nice to see something different from the usual magazines 44t etc. Not that they’re bad but great to see a ‘normal’ review too. Bikes are all gone expensive though so value is relative. I suppose you can start comparing by how much they cost on pcp coz that’s what’s driven the price up and that’s how most bikes will be bought now so people don’t really care about the final price. Cars went the same way didn’t they
My RSV4 1100 Factory 2020 is more better than CBR 2020 because their 4 cylinders in line is MORE linearry but when Honda will be a V4 !!?! The architectur’motors is this with more fun on road ! Nobody can say the opposite ! Good job for video guys ! See from France 🇫🇷✌🏼
Calling the blade too flat and boring and slower than a ZX6R down low whilst riding it at 40 MPH in a gear which tops out at about 150 MPH.....
I assure you at any speed, if you pin it whilst in first it is PLENTY fast for a public road, and while it really picks up at 6500 RPM, it doesn't take long at all to get there, and once it does, it is simply too fast for a public road anyway.
On the track you'll always be above 6500 RPM so it's obviously a non issue there either.
This bike is blistering fast!
Am I alone thinking a proper straight 4 (this blade) sounds better than a V4?
I have a 2021 rrrr Fireblade it is definitely a bike on the next level
Love this format - engaging, insightful and objective
Thanks Jamie 👍👍
I want to see a sprocket change then retest the Honda. Other simple tweaks to be in it's powerband faster.
From 40 to 42 in the back wheel will do the trick
Great video fantastic bikes stay safe looking forward to next one 🇬🇧👍🏻
Can’t believe the difference in both on the runs 👀
As usual excellent review, keep up the good work, ridesafe.
Thanks colin and same to you 👍
Good review chopsy, we wait for your review on the new bmw 1000rr
Ninja1000sx with a new paint scheme what an awsome road bike.
Visually the Blade looks better IMO, the RSV paint job doesn't do it justice. Having had a Blade in the 90s I'd probably choose that over the Aprilla because you can ride it sensibly and of course the reliability reputation of the Honda when you're spending that much money has to figure in there somewhere? Nice one chopsey I enjoyed that even though in reality I'll never have either 👍
I'd say the Aprilia should be 10/10 for value as it is top of the line Italian exotic bike you can get under 20k. Aprilia is soo underrated. My mate picked up brand new Tuono for under 12k€ out the door.
14:40 bye!
Another cracking vid LC,unrelated what back pack set up are you using for your insta360?
There is a link in the description 👍
Hmmmm! ....would I go for an overpriced Japanese straight 4 or an absolute BARGAIN Italian V4? 🤔
.......I think you all know the answer, it’s a no brainer!!!!!! 😜
Depends how much you enjoy riding as opposed to visiting your dealer to get your bike fixed. My buddy kept his Aprilla for a month then traded it for Japanese. But we are hard riders and not into posing like most bikers
@@mbal4052 😂🤣
Suicide speeding on those 2-lane roads, someone had a car parked in the way!! The Fireblade loves to cruise at 135-145-mph
Great review lads thanks .aprila for me thanks looks great has everything u need.
Please do a comparison of The Triumph Street Triple RS and KTM Duke 890R👍🙏🎉
@020 Honda CBR 1000RRR RECALLED FOR DEFECTIVE CON RODS!!! 2021 CBR 1000RRR Dealerships saying gearbox problems... Aprilia RSV4 Bullet proof
14:32 into the clip '40 mph 3rd gear' the RSV4 just pulls away easy from the Fireblade. Really bad comparison of power delivery between the two bikes. The Fireblade has really looooong gearing. On a racetrack when all other comparable Super Bikes are cornering in 2nd gear, the Fireblade will be cornering in 1st gear. You guys do some great reviews, but you misunderstood how the gearing works on the Fireblade.
Love the test card 😂
The shift lights are white ,red,then blue, problem is when you hit your set rev limiter at night, kinda catches you off guard that a cop is pulling you over with the flashing colors reflecting off the mirrors. Maybe Honda intentionally picked those colors so you slow down?
Bloody marvellous.... many thanks chops. Cracking work. 👍👍
Thanks mate 👍👍😁
@@LambChopRides all very local to me, hopefully we’ll cross paths at some point and I’ll get you a bacon roll and a tea in a styrofoam cup. 👍👍 Stay safe and rubber down.
Thanks matey! What bike you got? Will lookout for you
@@LambChopRides 2005 ZX10-R C2, in black. 👍👍
Ok will keep my eyes peeled 👍
Great video for street riders, although these bikes should realistically be compared in terms of track performance.
Cbr😍🔥
2160P amazing 🤩
20 odd k for a mass produced sports bike bloody hell .Remember when they were 8/9k
I know crazy money eh!
23.5k for the SP..
Gotta keep in mind the 8/9k bikes of today are better than the 8/9k sports bikes of back then. So they still exists just with a slightly absurd higher ceiling
Agreed, and they did stay at 8/9k for a very long time.
Its decent car money , ok not performance , but a car is made up of 3 to 4 times the amount of parts