Ikr, I’m not super sure about the calcs for C0R1 between them but at C0R1 I think arle does more damage, especially if you have Yelan, but at C2R1 Mavuika actually sweeps arle and it’s not even funny
@@ceyx1201 In order for a character to be benched, it is necessary for the character to be acquired first. You are not contradicting OP's statement...
Ayy Clorinde appreciation. I'm glad I got her honestly. She's very fun to play. That being said, I wish her rerun was later, cuz man, I can't get her weapon with Citlali and Mavuika coming up
Is it normal that I have Xilonen and I dont even want Mavuika...like oh boy...big number... Why is Citlali just so much more appealing than the Archon?
There is a 150% chance that Mavuika will rerun in a few months. There is a 0.69% chance Citlali gets a rerun AT ALL. The choice couldn't be more clear for me. Skip Mavuika and get Citlali. Especially since I already have Klee, Hu, Yoimiya and Yanfei, I am eating good on field Pyro DPS wise.
I don't get why everyone is losing their mind over Mauvika's current damage. Shes in her 1.0 beta phase. Shes is currently very overtuned. I don't see her making it to the next beta with these kind of damage numbers.
Spoilers and leaks ahead Citlali is incredibly mid rn. Her shield is very weak, maybe 1/3rd the strength of Zhonglis, her res shred only applies to 2 elements, pyro and hydro, and the shred itself is only 20%; xilonen applies 36% res shred to all elements at c0 btw. Only at C2 does Citlali’s res shred become close to xilonens bumping it by 20% making it a total of 40% res shred to only those two elements. We don’t know how good her cryo app is going to be but if it isn’t at least Yelan tier she’ll be a side grade at best in every team except Melt teams so unless you play melt exclusively she really isn’t worth it at all rn
@@Iam....--..160k DPR while giving +50% pyro/cryo dmg bonus in double cryo (giving cryo resonance) double Pyro teams while also giving a enough shield for interrupt resistance and 20% res shred ISN'T mid, it's just niche. The thing is, she have double the DPR of any shielders in the game, for modes like spyral abyss that changes a lot. You don't need a lot of shield power if the enemies are dead faster. I still think she will receive changes, specially in her cryo app, but she's far from mid
I love clorinde so I always jokingly used to say clorinde is a better value pull than arlecchino and now i can actually spread the propaganda without being wrong, this is way too funny.
Ngl. Mavuika being a zero energy all offence stat Xiangling with a 90% damage bonus buff with scroll and on skill pyro application who ALSO deals more damage than Arlechinno on field is insane.
@@someoneonyoutube2814Xilonen is not 100% a must, she is like Furina on Neuvilette. Good on pair? Yeah but not end of the world when they are separated. Please never believe leakers in term of build and impression. Dehya is example when leakers are wrong but the stigma of her is already created. I can agree Dehya is mid but bad unit is definitely wrong.
i think a plus side to arlechino can also be the fact that she's not tied to needing region specific teams and overall broken supports. Speaking as a non xilonen haver because i just dont like geo
To be fair it’s not geo that makes Xilonen good, and your likely not going to use her as a DPS but a buffer so geo barely plays into why you would pull for her
@@DrSri0208 no i mean she works even if u dont utilize furina xilonen or hek even kazuha, limited broken suports that not everyone might have. Chev is at least 4 star, xingqiu is obviously 4 star. overload is pretty good now so fiscl and bennet is obviously easy choices and sucrose is good enough as a debuffer
@@cynicalmandate i know, she debuffs buffs and heals. Basically kazuha without the grouping but added benefit of healing and a direct puzzle piece to completing furina hyper buffing teams. I stil dont like her and thus wont get her
I wonder why they bothered re-running Lyney and Arlecchino so close to Mavuika's release if she's just going to powercreep them so bad they become irrelevant? Doesn't it just kind of put into contrast how oversaturated Mavuika's niche is, making people less excited about pulling her or her competitors? If they also rerun Hu-Tao during Lantern Rite then I'm going to be 100% certain that this is on purpose, but I'm going to have 0% understanding of why they did it.
@@FliponYT I forgot but you're totally right 😭 No way this isn't all on purpose, they're *definitely* up to something. Guess they're trying to sell all of them one last time before they get power-crept out of relevancy.
Now I have good excus- totally justify reasons to pull my big sword redhead queen, even though my account doesn't need her. I can use her as a support for my Arlecchino's and Clorinde's teams. Thank you Flip.
I think it's crazy how people on reddit are acting like arlecchino is suddenly worthless now that she's not No.1 anymore. Smh if you'd pulled for her because of her design or story then you should stick to her regardless of her meta standing. I think it's very telling how people mostly pull for meta units and collectively brainwash themselves into thinking their favorite unit is the same one ten million other people are using(facepalm). Anyways I'll be pulling for my queen clorinde regardless of how strong she is
Even though, I like Mavuika gameplay and design, I would go for Citlali. Since she is cryo, her rerun may take longer(Rizzley trama owo) and Mavuika being archon, will rerun very soon. And I triple crowned Layla because of her design. Citlali being label as 5 star Layla, Having same eng va as March 7th, Great chemistery with Ororon in Quests already sold her for me. I was not hyping up Mavuika until her bike gameplay(Yeah,I said to my friend, If she didn't use bike, I won't be pulling and somehow Da wei hear my wish) but I've been hyping Citlali since Teaser so It make sense for me go for cute Grandma first.Goodluck to you guys on pulling whoever you want. May you get what you want!
I love how you added that arlecchino’s weapon was worth the drip over the c1,because going for the drip over dmg was the best decision I could’ve made because for the c1 you can always bring a shielder and you might not even need to because arle just obliterates everything so fast at c0 ,i honestly think her c1 is not worth again (Citlali is even going to be great teammate for alre vape teams becos of pyro/hydro res shred)
Citlali might combo well with DPS Pyro Traveler with the new event sword. Besides the obvious (res shred, scroll, a shield) she can also activate Eshu's condition, granting up to 40% dmg and 16% crit rate on their infused NAs/CAs. Considering that both C6 Traveler and Eshu are free, Citlali might be a good investment for F2Ps.
i like the idea of citlali's weapon on lan yan for mavuika players who got unlucky on her weapon banner, it closes the gap between her and sucrose/kazuha if you're running a setup that doesn't care for ttds
Was hoping for Mavuika to replace bennett and or Xianling. Not Arlichineo or Hutao as an onfield hyper carry. That complicates things, especially as someone who had Ayato, then had to pull for Nuev. I already have Arli, but at the same time want the Archon. Natlan has been an L for me overall so far.
Arlecchino is one of my favorite characters and one of the best I have build so nah I dont need Mavuika (dont like the design, dont like the gamplay, find it goofy) right now, what a pity tho I thought she would be a good support with goated exploration yet she dont seem to have neither
i genuinely thought I could replace Bennet or Xiangling in my teams so Mavuika can either buff my carries more and deal some decent damage OR she can apply enough pyro and provide some dmg bonuses for any type of dmg (atk hp or def). I thought I could put her and Raiden on the same team with Chevreuse but when the 5.3 beta started all my hopes died
@@s1imoshaI have heard some people said mavuika is just dehya 2.0 😂😂. DEVS took it personally and made her like that. They messed up her kit anyway. Same, I want xangling replacement but there goes my replacement. I am pulling regardless mavuika. Cuz I don't wanna use that xangling anymore. 4 years were enough. I will make mavuika as sustainer no matter what 😂. Gonna slap some golden troupe set on her and would free myself from xangling impact 😂.
Indeed, scythe wielding character is really sweet to the eye. I prefer to c2 arle since i have c1 already than pulling for mavuika. Mavuika gameplay is just so dumb
I don’t know why but Clorinde electro charged never crossed my mind. Just tried a couple of runs with Clorinde, Yelan, Orororon and Xingqiu and it surprisingly fun and got really good clear times.
Definitely pulling Mavuika. I don't have Xilonen yet (or any other Natlan character other than Kachina), but I'm going to do whatever it takes to pull Xilonen on her rerun, even *gasp* breaking out the ol' wallet (I buy Welkins but I've never bought top-ups or whatever). So if I have to live with a less-effective Mavuika for a few patches, I'm fine with that. I don't care too much about meta or spiral abyss anyway, and I don't have another on-field pyro DPS (other than Diluc, but I don't use him). I'm not a fan of Mavuika's motorcycle, and the animations with it are a little goofy, but her design is awesome, and she's one of the few leaders of any kind in Genshin that actually acts and sounds like somebody that real-life people would follow. So in the end I wasn't going to skip her regardless.
Thank goodness, I can save this patch 😅. I only hoped Pyro Archon would powercreep Benny or simply Guoba girl for Tartaglia. But since that’s not the case, I’m set, and thankfully I already went all in on Clorinde and her constellations. Her Aggravate team is the smoothest thing I’ll ever have in abyss.
This is perfect. I have C4 Clorinde and wanted to get her to C6 and get her weapon but I also needed her weapon. I wanted to get Mavuika too. Now I can take my time
For Citlali vapemelt teams, if you're against bosses you can just not burst so she doesn't apply Cryo and grief your aura, you still get all of the other buffs she provides
Honestly, my issue with your take on Mavuika off-field in Mualani teams is I don't think you're being harsh enough RN Mualani's best team is Furina Xilonen Xiangling, which barely keeps up pyro aura. Trading Xiangling for Mavuika, your pyro would easily get overwhelmed with Furina, so trade Furina for Candace. Cool, cool Mavuika's burst gives you a fifth nuke and Mualani gets out with an extra 40-50% DMG bonus on her NAs ... but not her burst ... and only Mualani's first two NAs benefit ... and less teamwide DMG bonus .... and you're losing Furina's personal damage, which made up for ~1/4 of the team's damage ... and Mavuika's got to choose between no Scroll buff or no Obsidian ... and Mavuika's off filed damage is barely better than an ER-built Xiangling's ... and Mavuika'll fail to keep up with Mualani's Hydro app against more than one target Yeah ..... really, really not worth. And Celestia forbid you went for C1/2 Furina p.s. Mavuika's pyro app is too lacking for Ganyu melt teams, too, as the best of these teams want to use Ganyu's burst which (again) Xiangling can barely solo maintain pyro aura through. So you'll be looking for a secondary source of pyro app, at which point there's just way better options than Mavuika, especially b/c now Mavuika runs into Fighting Spirit issues (doesn't refill her own in 1 rotation + nobody's doing NAs)
I wanted Citlali and use her but I dont have any actual good team for her at all Sooooo...I'm going to do the absolutely stupidest thing and get her C1 and slotting her in my Navia team replacing Bennet (circle impact is gei) 🗿
I do not understand why they can’t have the banner let you choose and lock in 3 four stars you’d like to have boosted rates. At this point in the game it literally changes my mind about pulling (and therefore their pocket) as I have C6 Barbara and sucrose and even though I would consider more chasca and ororon I wont risk it. It wouldn’t harm the game at all let’s be real it’ll just mean the four stars people actually want will pop up more often.
I would highly recommend everyone pulling Citlali..why? Not because of her kit but she is cryo and we know that she'll never ever gonna get re run again..
You really underestimate how good is citlali is in hydro teams especially for neuvellite , citlali shred hydro and give cinder buff , and have sub DPS unlike xilonen , since you already running kazuha + citlali , any more res shred isn't that important , citlali is basically a xilonen for neuvellite plus shields and freeze Xilonen go to other teams
Yeah, unless the enemy bosses have ungodly amounts of resistances Xilonen would hit diminished returns. And a free Xilonen on the other side is often very useful.
@@kingdoom5022 citlalis dmg in a Neuv team is a joke. Its not that good even in melt teams but its even far worse in Neuv teams. As for the shields, hope it survives at least 2 consecrated beast attacks cuz that shield is extremely weak to the point its an insult to others to call Citlali a shielder.
@@deltaspecies1697 You are really ignoring things to make citlali worse , 250k+ in melt teams is not a joke , that's more than half chiori DPS , a pure sub DPS Also in practice , her shields would be better than zhongli cause she freeze , and bosses majority of them slow attacks
This happens to somehow be better for me since I don't want another pyro dps, and I'm not really interested in Clorinde. Depending on how she is on release, I might pull for Citali. But I might just save pulls for Furina
They are crazy, normally they would make 2 banner have 1 new limited character on them but they decided to put both Mavuika and Citlali on the same banner.
I think too many people are assuming that if Mavuika does more damage than Arle, Arle will suddenly be irrelevant and people will no longer play her. Setting aside that I personally will main Arle forever because I love her character and design, the decision in 5.3 for most players isn’t going to be between her and Mavuika in 5.3. It will be between the two new characters, Mav and Citlali. And because Citlali works very well with both of the other two, most people already have Arlecchino, and Arle will still be a top tier dps regardless of Mavuika’s damage in comparison, I believe most people will choose Citlali to build for the Arlecchino team they already have, (or any of the other teams she works with), rather than building an entirely new dps. The real Arle vs Mav battle will be when Mavuika gets her rerun and those who pulled for Citlali at first have the chance to get her.
Mavuika is my 2nd fav Natlan character in terms of design and my favourite in terms of lore, but the kit is just okay. But I just got Arle recently and wanted her C1 (still love her). And I still want to get Clorinde and Citlatli eventually. I hope Mavuika’s on field damage will be more reasonable and be less reliant on Nightsoul, while providing more buffs (Pyro-reaction related maybe) and even more buffs to Natlanese for more dual dps set up with Kinich, Chasca and Mualani throughout the beta so she can be more universal. Decisions, decisions. If things are going the way they are right now, I will snag Citlaltli then Mavuika, then Clorinde.
Yo flip, i think you should look into Pyro MC a little, nobody i know has been covering them and i think they could be pretty good in some teams, atleast personally they're looking like a good pick on my double hydro hutao team but im interested in seeing what you think!
Actually clorinde has a good f2p option with the Fontaine craftable, and if she is pairs with a electo support she gets buffed at C0, and don’t run clorinde with a healer her damage is good with her self healing which scales of her bond of life
From my understanding Xilonen skill and Mavuika skill give her around 173-Ish nightsoul out of 200 Is it worth weaving in one more Xilonen skill to cap the 200 or just better to burst at 173-ish
Just got back into genshin and wanted Mavuika, Neuvilette, Clorinde, and Arlecchino. Looks at the leaks and cries at my f2p ass wondering how I can pull 4 charas one after the other
I thought Ganyu would finally get buffed after a very long time. Shenhe was only a minor buff and Ayaka benefits her more. I fervently hoped Citlali would be the first major buff for Gnyu providing shield, EM, damage bonus through artifact, and Cryo RES. I guess not. Is that really too much to ask HoYo? Mavuika could have buffed Ganyu too alongside Citlali and have decent synergy with Ganyu's burst if she's needed to on-field.
You still get the cryo dmg bonus, shield, and ttds buff, which isn't bad. That's not taking into account citlali's early constellations, which are insanely good for melt ganyu.
we're going to the hsr powercreep route letsgooooo, cant wait for another pyro dps that does do 10x more dmg than mavuika letsgoooo, But fr, whats happening right now, getting powercrept on your rerun is hella funny and sad at the same time lol.
When using Citlali in a Hu Tao team or any Pyro team you could just not burst against bosses???? This way her skill only gives 24 Nightsoul points, her A1 gives 16 because of Citlali's skill's initial hit and A4 gives 4/8 depending on Natlan teammates(non Xilonen), that total's to 48 points which is less than 50 thus her turret Itzpapa will never start applying Cryo. With Xilonen her A4 will get triggered twice which can cause problems but I don't see anyone running Pyro, Hydro, Xilonen, Citlali. I know this means her res shred uptime will be bad if you do this but you'll still have 12 seconds of uptime which means you can put her right before your carry in the rotation.
I own Arlecchino and Clorinde and imo both are great depending on what playstyle you prefer. I think both are worth it. Maybe Clorinde is more f2p friendly thanks to having a few f2p weapon options (including current event weapon). I wish everyone good luck with their pulls for these characters ♥ I just want Wriothesley 😂Chasca drained all my primos and wallet lol (0 regret).
I miss having a bike from Honkai Impact with Bronya. Also miss Himiko from Honkai Impact. Love that we are getting both with Mauvika. Hate that Clorinde needs so much vertical investment so will skip unless I somehow have enough left over.
This is such a mad run of banners. I wanted to get Citlali & Mavuika, but with Arlecchine on the banner too I NEED to get her weapon.. it’s a mf scythe!!! There is no way I will win all the 50/50s & gather enough primos
@@FliponYT thanks dude. It’s a hard life for f2p. Since I already have Arlecchino I’m wondering if I even need Mavuika, but so far I’ve gone hard on Natlan characters & already have Mualani, her weapon & xilonen. So a Mavuika would be a nice support
5.3 is gonna break my wallet. On top of waiting for Mauvika, I was waiting for Arleccino and Clorinde reruns. All 3 of them are in the same update. I guess I can wait for Clorinde's next rerun for her c1 or r1. I'm currently at 40 pity and have 241 saved wishes. I'm also still waiting for Wriothesley to be freed from Hoyo's basement.
5:12 Forward Melt On-field Bennett says hi. 12:52 Sucrose W. She'll indirectly give 500 flat damage since her buff is teamwide. Idk if that acts like Shenhe quills or Layla's A4 (hope it's the latter) 13:23 How was the Widsith average calced? One-rotation (average of three buffs) and two-rotation (weighted average of three buffs with weight 1 and unbuffed with weight 3) calcs are different. --- I'd probably just wait for the 5.5 drip marketing (hope it doesn't get delayed to the next patch again) if the 5.4 characters aren't Ifa or Capitano yet to know if I should pull on 5.3.
Thinking about getting goat citlali but then i have kinich so mavuika can boost his dps . Man why mavuika is another on field dps ahhhh also single target oriented with circle impact
I’m confused on what real benefits Citlali brings to Arle teams. She basically does no damage because of her ER requirements, she also won’t be able to sustain melt herself so all she gives is 1 to 2 melts and TTDS.
She wouldn’t use ttds on an arle team you just play double cryo which allows Arle to melt all her hits that apply pyro. Melt just scales harder than vape You get the same buffs as xilonen -16 res shred Rosaria offers crit rate buffs + cryo resonance Citlali is able to melt her burst which plus her off field hits and Rosa equals out to Yelans damage
Imma get mavuika on my main acc for sure as she's perfect for my roster with kinich xilonen clorinde (even tho i was getting her anyway) , as for citlali i wish she worked well with hu tao cos i have her on my alt acc but with what u said ill either get her anyway or maybe arle or skip depends on what is there on 5.4 , love ur vids man
I really appreciate Hoyo for making a Top 3 DPS unit then immediately pushing her out of that Top 3 right after I finished x3 crowning her Is this what it's like to be an Ayato main?
My other side is my c3r2 Raiden hypercarry I’ve already taken Xilonen out to replace with Kazuha So my current plan for a Mavuika team is Mavuika, Furina, Xilonen and Citlali (if I get her) Does that team work? Also if I can’t get Citlali, will burst support Ganyu work? I’m stuck between burst support Ganyu for better application to get some melts or Charlotte to at least get 1 or 2 melts but being able to max out Furina’s fanfare? Which will be better?
My clorinde is rly good and I surprises me ( I'm ftp and don't have any of her cons or her we apo) try this team her chevruse Thoma Sara and put the new event wepon on her ( the purple sword) any way for each basic it hits like 15k then 16k on the zip attack which Is way more than what I've seen on any Agrrivate team with clorinde hope this is informational
Full patch banners might be dead RIP
fr bro wtf happened 😭😭
The fact that arlecchino might be powercrept on her first rerun is wild
Ikr, I’m not super sure about the calcs for C0R1 between them but at C0R1 I think arle does more damage, especially if you have Yelan, but at C2R1 Mavuika actually sweeps arle and it’s not even funny
Not at all.
Mavuika is stronger but with Natlan team.
Arle fit more variety of team. More universal.
In coop its easier to use Arle than Navuika
@@syarifairlangga4608 no compares how strong units based on their performance in coop
@@TybossMaster If they did, we'd see people talking about how great Furina is as a healer in Co-Op.
@@syarifairlangga4608arle is universal? damn what a take
Citlali is a must pull because this is her first and last banner.
😭
not the cryo curse
Hoyo locks up their cyro units so everyone pull for granny bc she's not gonna rerun until we're in genshin impact 2!
With sheznaya coming i doubt that
Getting powercrept on your rerun is crazy
arle still better sorry
A hsr classic
damn bro, and Arlecchino was like top 2 dps of this game 💀
Sigwin powercrept after 0.00000000001 seconds of her first banner.
They heard people liked what HSR dev team did so they listened and copied .... except the wrong stuff lol.
Don’t forget to pull who you wanna pull and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise ‼️
Remember this ‼️
Mavuika is an archon, so it's confirmed that she will appear again around update 6.xx, but not Citlali
@@f2o.f2o that is why I pull archon first makes vertical investment faster.
Citlali can heal up the enimes and i would still pull for her , ain't nothing gonna stop me from getting granny
That's what all they say about every new character until they were all benched
@@ceyx1201 In order for a character to be benched, it is necessary for the character to be acquired first. You are not contradicting OP's statement...
@@ceyx1201
A DPS is quickly benched once the next OP DPS release , citlali is OP support , she's isn't benching my neuvillette teams
Everything for citlali, she's so pretty ane funny
Loved her since the natlan trailer (same for Kinich), I'm so excited for her banner !!
@@kingdoom5022 ye about dat, as a support her kit is pretty mid rn. Could change
Ayy Clorinde appreciation. I'm glad I got her honestly. She's very fun to play. That being said, I wish her rerun was later, cuz man, I can't get her weapon with Citlali and Mavuika coming up
Mavuika is a safe skip though she WILL get a re-run before the end of Natlan. Everyone else is much less safe, especially cryo characters.
Is it normal that I have Xilonen and I dont even want Mavuika...like oh boy...big number...
Why is Citlali just so much more appealing than the Archon?
Because Citlali is the goat
Because Mavuika is just mid
I'm literally the same. Mavuika was so glazed by the story it made me lowkey dislike her lmao. We all pulled for Granny!!
Sex appeal maybe ?
i still can’t believe they’re hiding shenhe and rizzly away AGAIN
As a Shenhe owner since day 1, let me say this.
I cried from both of my heads while watching this vid.
Not even gonna ask
Weird
NAH BRO to the timeout corner
Same
What a terrible day to be literate
There is a 150% chance that Mavuika will rerun in a few months. There is a 0.69% chance Citlali gets a rerun AT ALL.
The choice couldn't be more clear for me. Skip Mavuika and get Citlali.
Especially since I already have Klee, Hu, Yoimiya and Yanfei, I am eating good on field Pyro DPS wise.
Luckily you can get both since they will run the full 45 days 🎉
@@greatsageonisama358assuming we’ll get enough pulls
I don't get why everyone is losing their mind over Mauvika's current damage. Shes in her 1.0 beta phase. Shes is currently very overtuned. I don't see her making it to the next beta with these kind of damage numbers.
It's second beta
It's second beta V2 and on Monday it will gona V3 so let's see...
@@haroonafridi231when is v4?
@@Moontonboss i don't know about that
Maybe next Monday after this V3 Monday?
@@haroonafridi231 so that means they can still change mavuika whole kit?
I am actually more hyped for citlali than the archon , especially after seeing how much she is xilonen dependant
Spoilers and leaks ahead
Citlali is incredibly mid rn. Her shield is very weak, maybe 1/3rd the strength of Zhonglis, her res shred only applies to 2 elements, pyro and hydro, and the shred itself is only 20%; xilonen applies 36% res shred to all elements at c0 btw.
Only at C2 does Citlali’s res shred become close to xilonens bumping it by 20% making it a total of 40% res shred to only those two elements. We don’t know how good her cryo app is going to be but if it isn’t at least Yelan tier she’ll be a side grade at best in every team except Melt teams so unless you play melt exclusively she really isn’t worth it at all rn
@@Iam....--..her shield is meh, but she could be a reverse melt monster bc she scales with EM
@@Iam....--..160k DPR while giving +50% pyro/cryo dmg bonus in double cryo (giving cryo resonance) double Pyro teams while also giving a enough shield for interrupt resistance and 20% res shred ISN'T mid, it's just niche. The thing is, she have double the DPR of any shielders in the game, for modes like spyral abyss that changes a lot. You don't need a lot of shield power if the enemies are dead faster.
I still think she will receive changes, specially in her cryo app, but she's far from mid
@@Iam....--..
Citlali is amazing for mavuika and neuvellite , that's what i care about
@@Iam....--..nobody gives a sh*t about what you just said 😂
Bruh orphan maker , dead beat , Gilf and pyro raiden is a line up of all time
Orphan maker is INSANE
I love clorinde so I always jokingly used to say clorinde is a better value pull than arlecchino and now i can actually spread the propaganda without being wrong, this is way too funny.
Flip can you keep the things like weapon rankings on screen FOR MORE THAN 0.2 SECONDS please?
For real the edit is the thing that matters unlike the background footage
Exactly
PLEASE im coping that mavuika dps gets nerfed and off field pyro is the play PLEASE IM BEGGING stop giving us pyro dps im sick of them
LOL
I think Hoyo is more obsessed with the idea that all Pyro characters must be on-field DPS units than Minecraft RUclipsrs are with children.
Insane comment but true
Caught me way off guard with this comment 😂😂
Ngl. Mavuika being a zero energy all offence stat Xiangling with a 90% damage bonus buff with scroll and on skill pyro application who ALSO deals more damage than Arlechinno on field is insane.
and that's the reasons I won't pull for her
@@s1imosha same here.
Also she need xilonen to work and i hate xilonen soo much.
@@someoneonyoutube2814why? What’s wrong with Xilonen?
@@entropy8634probably because he doesn't have her 😂
@@someoneonyoutube2814Xilonen is not 100% a must, she is like Furina on Neuvilette. Good on pair? Yeah but not end of the world when they are separated.
Please never believe leakers in term of build and impression. Dehya is example when leakers are wrong but the stigma of her is already created. I can agree Dehya is mid but bad unit is definitely wrong.
Scara's gonna have 3 different elemental archon halos behind him now with raiden and mauvika 😨
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i think a plus side to arlechino can also be the fact that she's not tied to needing region specific teams and overall broken supports. Speaking as a non xilonen haver because i just dont like geo
I dont like her naked design.
To be fair it’s not geo that makes Xilonen good, and your likely not going to use her as a DPS but a buffer so geo barely plays into why you would pull for her
So arle doesn’t need broken supports like bennet , kazuha, yelan/furina , cheuv ? 😂
@@DrSri0208 no i mean she works even if u dont utilize furina xilonen or hek even kazuha, limited broken suports that not everyone might have. Chev is at least 4 star, xingqiu is obviously 4 star. overload is pretty good now so fiscl and bennet is obviously easy choices and sucrose is good enough as a debuffer
@@cynicalmandate i know, she debuffs buffs and heals. Basically kazuha without the grouping but added benefit of healing and a direct puzzle piece to completing furina hyper buffing teams. I stil dont like her and thus wont get her
Bro nose bleeding while talking about clorinde. Valid asf.
I am not gonna deny me too 😂
Being sick gang. My throat hurts bruh
@@DoT_TD pause😭🙏
Your mum last night:
HUH
I wonder why they bothered re-running Lyney and Arlecchino so close to Mavuika's release if she's just going to powercreep them so bad they become irrelevant? Doesn't it just kind of put into contrast how oversaturated Mavuika's niche is, making people less excited about pulling her or her competitors? If they also rerun Hu-Tao during Lantern Rite then I'm going to be 100% certain that this is on purpose, but I'm going to have 0% understanding of why they did it.
Cuz GI devs brain always works backwards 😂😂
Hu Tao just reran
@@FliponYT I forgot but you're totally right 😭
No way this isn't all on purpose, they're *definitely* up to something. Guess they're trying to sell all of them one last time before they get power-crept out of relevancy.
Meta relevance != Coomer relevance 😂😂😂
That being said Arle cooming I understand...but cooking for Lyney... Someone call the police...
@@DizY_8 Call the cops then cause I'm never ignoring a femboy in thigh highs, stockings, and garters.
Not the "Shitlali" 😭😭
That is NOT what I said, would never disrespect the goat
Now I have good excus- totally justify reasons to pull my big sword redhead queen, even though my account doesn't need her. I can use her as a support for my Arlecchino's and Clorinde's teams. Thank you Flip.
Yeah, I was thinking same. Enough supporting natlan characters. Times up mavuika 😂. Now support my favorite harbinger Arleccino.
I think it's crazy how people on reddit are acting like arlecchino is suddenly worthless now that she's not No.1 anymore. Smh if you'd pulled for her because of her design or story then you should stick to her regardless of her meta standing. I think it's very telling how people mostly pull for meta units and collectively brainwash themselves into thinking their favorite unit is the same one ten million other people are using(facepalm). Anyways I'll be pulling for my queen clorinde regardless of how strong she is
same happened to Ayato when Neuvi got released but here we can see rly big gap in dmg sadly
I normally just hoard a ton of gems. But the 42 days definitely helps newer players
Mavuika's weapon on Eula is just C6 Bennett propaganda.
Its all coming back to bennet, the true pyro archon
Even though, I like Mavuika gameplay and design, I would go for Citlali. Since she is cryo, her rerun may take longer(Rizzley trama owo) and Mavuika being archon, will rerun very soon. And I triple crowned Layla because of her design. Citlali being label as 5 star Layla, Having same eng va as March 7th, Great chemistery with Ororon in Quests already sold her for me. I was not hyping up Mavuika until her bike gameplay(Yeah,I said to my friend, If she didn't use bike, I won't be pulling and somehow Da wei hear my wish) but I've been hyping Citlali since Teaser so It make sense for me go for cute Grandma first.Goodluck to you guys on pulling whoever you want. May you get what you want!
since mavuika kit and stupid motor bike attacks let me down,i want clorinde c2.
I am SO happy I got Wrio c1 on the first day of his banner, best decision of my life
I love how you added that arlecchino’s weapon was worth the drip over the c1,because going for the drip over dmg was the best decision I could’ve made because for the c1 you can always bring a shielder and you might not even need to because arle just obliterates everything so fast at c0 ,i honestly think her c1 is not worth again (Citlali is even going to be great teammate for alre vape teams becos of pyro/hydro res shred)
Who cares about damage I want to
Look cool🗣️🗣️
i felt myself getting sicker and sicker as the video progressed 😃
😭
Someone get Flip an egg
Citlali might combo well with DPS Pyro Traveler with the new event sword. Besides the obvious (res shred, scroll, a shield) she can also activate Eshu's condition, granting up to 40% dmg and 16% crit rate on their infused NAs/CAs. Considering that both C6 Traveler and Eshu are free, Citlali might be a good investment for F2Ps.
Gonna force Double Cryo Hu Tao anyways for Granny 🗣
i like the idea of citlali's weapon on lan yan for mavuika players who got unlucky on her weapon banner, it closes the gap between her and sucrose/kazuha if you're running a setup that doesn't care for ttds
Was hoping for Mavuika to replace bennett and or Xianling. Not Arlichineo or Hutao as an onfield hyper carry. That complicates things, especially as someone who had Ayato, then had to pull for Nuev. I already have Arli, but at the same time want the Archon. Natlan has been an L for me overall so far.
Still waiting for Pyro Traveller review :P
(It will be a bit)
Arlecchino is one of my favorite characters and one of the best I have build so nah I dont need Mavuika (dont like the design, dont like the gamplay, find it goofy) right now, what a pity tho I thought she would be a good support with goated exploration yet she dont seem to have neither
i genuinely thought I could replace Bennet or Xiangling in my teams so Mavuika can either buff my carries more and deal some decent damage OR she can apply enough pyro and provide some dmg bonuses for any type of dmg (atk hp or def). I thought I could put her and Raiden on the same team with Chevreuse but when the 5.3 beta started all my hopes died
@@s1imoshaI have heard some people said mavuika is just dehya 2.0 😂😂. DEVS took it personally and made her like that. They messed up her kit anyway. Same, I want xangling replacement but there goes my replacement. I am pulling regardless mavuika. Cuz I don't wanna use that xangling anymore. 4 years were enough. I will make mavuika as sustainer no matter what 😂. Gonna slap some golden troupe set on her and would free myself from xangling impact 😂.
Indeed, scythe wielding character is really sweet to the eye. I prefer to c2 arle since i have c1 already than pulling for mavuika. Mavuika gameplay is just so dumb
Same
Cry🤡😂 cause mavuika havers will just laugh at you're c6r5 arlecchino doing same dmg as c0 mavuika 😂
I don’t know why but Clorinde electro charged never crossed my mind. Just tried a couple of runs with Clorinde, Yelan, Orororon and Xingqiu and it surprisingly fun and got really good clear times.
Definitely pulling Mavuika. I don't have Xilonen yet (or any other Natlan character other than Kachina), but I'm going to do whatever it takes to pull Xilonen on her rerun, even *gasp* breaking out the ol' wallet (I buy Welkins but I've never bought top-ups or whatever). So if I have to live with a less-effective Mavuika for a few patches, I'm fine with that. I don't care too much about meta or spiral abyss anyway, and I don't have another on-field pyro DPS (other than Diluc, but I don't use him).
I'm not a fan of Mavuika's motorcycle, and the animations with it are a little goofy, but her design is awesome, and she's one of the few leaders of any kind in Genshin that actually acts and sounds like somebody that real-life people would follow. So in the end I wasn't going to skip her regardless.
Thank goodness, I can save this patch 😅. I only hoped Pyro Archon would powercreep Benny or simply Guoba girl for Tartaglia.
But since that’s not the case, I’m set, and thankfully I already went all in on Clorinde and her constellations. Her Aggravate team is the smoothest thing I’ll ever have in abyss.
Xilonen skippers 🤣👉
This is perfect. I have C4 Clorinde and wanted to get her to C6 and get her weapon but I also needed her weapon. I wanted to get Mavuika too. Now I can take my time
For Citlali vapemelt teams, if you're against bosses you can just not burst so she doesn't apply Cryo and grief your aura, you still get all of the other buffs she provides
Melt ganyu getting a buff? Count me in :)
The short anwser: Mavuika
The long answer: Maaaavvvuuuikka
The based answer: Whoever you like.
Honestly, my issue with your take on Mavuika off-field in Mualani teams is I don't think you're being harsh enough
RN Mualani's best team is Furina Xilonen Xiangling, which barely keeps up pyro aura. Trading Xiangling for Mavuika, your pyro would easily get overwhelmed with Furina, so trade Furina for Candace.
Cool, cool
Mavuika's burst gives you a fifth nuke and Mualani gets out with an extra 40-50% DMG bonus on her NAs ... but not her burst ... and only Mualani's first two NAs benefit ... and less teamwide DMG bonus .... and you're losing Furina's personal damage, which made up for ~1/4 of the team's damage ... and Mavuika's got to choose between no Scroll buff or no Obsidian ... and Mavuika's off filed damage is barely better than an ER-built Xiangling's ... and Mavuika'll fail to keep up with Mualani's Hydro app against more than one target
Yeah ..... really, really not worth. And Celestia forbid you went for C1/2 Furina
p.s. Mavuika's pyro app is too lacking for Ganyu melt teams, too, as the best of these teams want to use Ganyu's burst which (again) Xiangling can barely solo maintain pyro aura through. So you'll be looking for a secondary source of pyro app, at which point there's just way better options than Mavuika, especially b/c now Mavuika runs into Fighting Spirit issues (doesn't refill her own in 1 rotation + nobody's doing NAs)
FINALLY GETTING MY QUEEN CLORINDE😭 (HOPEFULLY)
I'm just waiting for my boy Capitano, I have a feeling the 5.3 Archon Quest will be the Ultimate Decider if he becomes Playable or not...
I wanted Citlali and use her but I dont have any actual good team for her at all
Sooooo...I'm going to do the absolutely stupidest thing and get her C1 and slotting her in my Navia team replacing Bennet (circle impact is gei) 🗿
I will try to get Citlali for some extra interruption protection and damage boost for my Chasca.
I do not understand why they can’t have the banner let you choose and lock in 3 four stars you’d like to have boosted rates.
At this point in the game it literally changes my mind about pulling (and therefore their pocket) as I have C6 Barbara and sucrose and even though I would consider more chasca and ororon I wont risk it.
It wouldn’t harm the game at all let’s be real it’ll just mean the four stars people actually want will pop up more often.
I would highly recommend everyone pulling Citlali..why?
Not because of her kit but she is cryo and we know that she'll never ever gonna get re run again..
dissapointing
getting C1 for my cowboy supermodel so I can use her with my fave cougar
You really underestimate how good is citlali is in hydro teams especially for neuvellite , citlali shred hydro and give cinder buff , and have sub DPS unlike xilonen , since you already running kazuha + citlali , any more res shred isn't that important , citlali is basically a xilonen for neuvellite plus shields and freeze
Xilonen go to other teams
Yeah, unless the enemy bosses have ungodly amounts of resistances Xilonen would hit diminished returns.
And a free Xilonen on the other side is often very useful.
Xilonen has healing which better for fanfare stacks, which Citlali doesn't have over Xilonen.
@@kingdoom5022 citlalis dmg in a Neuv team is a joke. Its not that good even in melt teams but its even far worse in Neuv teams.
As for the shields, hope it survives at least 2 consecrated beast attacks cuz that shield is extremely weak to the point its an insult to others to call Citlali a shielder.
Kazuha has bad qol with lack of multi-wave and short bonuses
@@deltaspecies1697
You are really ignoring things to make citlali worse , 250k+ in melt teams is not a joke , that's more than half chiori DPS , a pure sub DPS
Also in practice , her shields would be better than zhongli cause she freeze , and bosses majority of them slow attacks
Eula uses her burst and skill consistently enough to wear the passive still works perfectly fine on her
This happens to somehow be better for me since I don't want another pyro dps, and I'm not really interested in Clorinde. Depending on how she is on release, I might pull for Citali. But I might just save pulls for Furina
I've already got arle and clorinde and I use them all the time so I'm gonna go for their weapons :)
Good luck !
Hope you lose the 50/50🙌
They are crazy, normally they would make 2 banner have 1 new limited character on them but they decided to put both Mavuika and Citlali on the same banner.
Really looking forward to pulling Mavuika, Citlali, and Clorinde since I miss her the first time around. Gonna be fun building these teams.
I think too many people are assuming that if Mavuika does more damage than Arle, Arle will suddenly be irrelevant and people will no longer play her.
Setting aside that I personally will main Arle forever because I love her character and design, the decision in 5.3 for most players isn’t going to be between her and Mavuika in 5.3. It will be between the two new characters, Mav and Citlali.
And because Citlali works very well with both of the other two, most people already have Arlecchino, and Arle will still be a top tier dps regardless of Mavuika’s damage in comparison, I believe most people will choose Citlali to build for the Arlecchino team they already have, (or any of the other teams she works with), rather than building an entirely new dps.
The real Arle vs Mav battle will be when Mavuika gets her rerun and those who pulled for Citlali at first have the chance to get her.
Mavuika is my 2nd fav Natlan character in terms of design and my favourite in terms of lore, but the kit is just okay. But I just got Arle recently and wanted her C1 (still love her). And I still want to get Clorinde and Citlatli eventually. I hope Mavuika’s on field damage will be more reasonable and be less reliant on Nightsoul, while providing more buffs (Pyro-reaction related maybe) and even more buffs to Natlanese for more dual dps set up with Kinich, Chasca and Mualani throughout the beta so she can be more universal. Decisions, decisions. If things are going the way they are right now, I will snag Citlaltli then Mavuika, then Clorinde.
Yo flip, i think you should look into Pyro MC a little, nobody i know has been covering them and i think they could be pretty good in some teams, atleast personally they're looking like a good pick on my double hydro hutao team but im interested in seeing what you think!
If you play Hu Tao with double hydro why would bosses be a problem?
True
Eula + Mav weapon + Benny c6 might be interesting.
Actually clorinde has a good f2p option with the Fontaine craftable, and if she is pairs with a electo support she gets buffed at C0, and don’t run clorinde with a healer her damage is good with her self healing which scales of her bond of life
"sick Flip here"?
Did I not make myself clear?
SORRY MA’AM ILL GO REST
@FliponYT that's more like it. Good boy.
From my understanding Xilonen skill and Mavuika skill give her around 173-Ish nightsoul out of 200
Is it worth weaving in one more Xilonen skill to cap the 200 or just better to burst at 173-ish
Just got back into genshin and wanted Mavuika, Neuvilette, Clorinde, and Arlecchino. Looks at the leaks and cries at my f2p ass wondering how I can pull 4 charas one after the other
When you pull of Arlecchino, you pull for her aura.
I thought Ganyu would finally get buffed after a very long time. Shenhe was only a minor buff and Ayaka benefits her more. I fervently hoped Citlali would be the first major buff for Gnyu providing shield, EM, damage bonus through artifact, and Cryo RES. I guess not. Is that really too much to ask HoYo?
Mavuika could have buffed Ganyu too alongside Citlali and have decent synergy with Ganyu's burst if she's needed to on-field.
You still get the cryo dmg bonus, shield, and ttds buff, which isn't bad. That's not taking into account citlali's early constellations, which are insanely good for melt ganyu.
Citlali could have a Sigewinne level kit and I'd still pull for her because I loved her in the archon quest! Love my alcoholic granny! 🩵
we're going to the hsr powercreep route letsgooooo, cant wait for another pyro dps that does do 10x more dmg than mavuika letsgoooo, But fr, whats happening right now, getting powercrept on your rerun is hella funny and sad at the same time lol.
When using Citlali in a Hu Tao team or any Pyro team you could just not burst against bosses???? This way her skill only gives 24 Nightsoul points, her A1 gives 16 because of Citlali's skill's initial hit and A4 gives 4/8 depending on Natlan teammates(non Xilonen), that total's to 48 points which is less than 50 thus her turret Itzpapa will never start applying Cryo. With Xilonen her A4 will get triggered twice which can cause problems but I don't see anyone running Pyro, Hydro, Xilonen, Citlali.
I know this means her res shred uptime will be bad if you do this but you'll still have 12 seconds of uptime which means you can put her right before your carry in the rotation.
There's no way you said Clorinde and infinite IR in one sentence without "wishes she had" in between.
When she does her fully stacked skill lunge she can’t be staggered out of it sob
@@FliponYT you mean at c2, right? there's no IR in her base kit and god knows she needs it
I own Arlecchino and Clorinde and imo both are great depending on what playstyle you prefer. I think both are worth it. Maybe Clorinde is more f2p friendly thanks to having a few f2p weapon options (including current event weapon).
I wish everyone good luck with their pulls for these characters ♥
I just want Wriothesley 😂Chasca drained all my primos and wallet lol (0 regret).
Im looking forward to Citlalis banner 🔥
I hate it here. Getting powercrept by the first fucking rerun is insane
Neuvillete and arlecchino is equal so that means neuvillete is getting powercreep too?
@@Moontonboss She is stronger than Neuvillette.
Yes and no, a pyro dps can't make any hydro characters irrelevant.
Arlecchino mains were clowning on Hu tao & Lyney just a month ago & now look how the tides have changed 😂 (i love this community)
You right about mavuika sword drip need that 🔥 (I’ll get c2 also for science)
I miss having a bike from Honkai Impact with Bronya. Also miss Himiko from Honkai Impact. Love that we are getting both with Mauvika. Hate that Clorinde needs so much vertical investment so will skip unless I somehow have enough left over.
This is such a mad run of banners. I wanted to get Citlali & Mavuika, but with Arlecchine on the banner too I NEED to get her weapon.. it’s a mf scythe!!! There is no way I will win all the 50/50s & gather enough primos
I believe in you good luck
@@FliponYT thanks dude. It’s a hard life for f2p. Since I already have Arlecchino I’m wondering if I even need Mavuika, but so far I’ve gone hard on Natlan characters & already have Mualani, her weapon & xilonen. So a Mavuika would be a nice support
I want Mauvika but i dont have (and want) Xilonen...
Guess Chevy will get a new toy that dont need babysitting like certain chief
Clorinde should be a bit better as electro reactions were buffed 👍👍
5.3 is gonna break my wallet. On top of waiting for Mauvika, I was waiting for Arleccino and Clorinde reruns. All 3 of them are in the same update. I guess I can wait for Clorinde's next rerun for her c1 or r1.
I'm currently at 40 pity and have 241 saved wishes. I'm also still waiting for Wriothesley to be freed from Hoyo's basement.
5:12 Forward Melt On-field Bennett says hi.
12:52 Sucrose W. She'll indirectly give 500 flat damage since her buff is teamwide. Idk if that acts like Shenhe quills or Layla's A4 (hope it's the latter)
13:23 How was the Widsith average calced? One-rotation (average of three buffs) and two-rotation (weighted average of three buffs with weight 1 and unbuffed with weight 3) calcs are different.
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I'd probably just wait for the 5.5 drip marketing (hope it doesn't get delayed to the next patch again) if the 5.4 characters aren't Ifa or Capitano yet to know if I should pull on 5.3.
2 rotations, first averaged second unbuffed
I will pull for both, mavuika and citlali. with 50/50 and 0 pity, wish me luck.
GOOD LUCK
surely c2 mavuika gets nerfed right? isnt that way too strong
I would genuinely be surprised if they leave it unchanged
@@FliponYT yoimiya c0 vs c6 is less increase than a c2 great game fr
@@noah-kx6gz If Yoimiya's C2 was 2/3 of what Mavuika's C2 damage increase is I would pull without question
@@FliponYT In V2 her C2 stats were even buffed so idk xddd
Thinking about getting goat citlali but then i have kinich so mavuika can boost his dps . Man why mavuika is another on field dps ahhhh also single target oriented with circle impact
Single target? No, she has a better aoe than arlechinno especially with her CA that can rival neuv aoe (whitout neuvispin ofc)
I’m confused on what real benefits Citlali brings to Arle teams. She basically does no damage because of her ER requirements, she also won’t be able to sustain melt herself so all she gives is 1 to 2 melts and TTDS.
She wouldn’t use ttds on an arle team you just play double cryo which allows Arle to melt all her hits that apply pyro.
Melt just scales harder than vape
You get the same buffs as xilonen -16 res shred
Rosaria offers crit rate buffs + cryo resonance
Citlali is able to melt her burst which plus her off field hits and Rosa equals out to Yelans damage
@ Oh, I was making the assumption she’d be solo like in Mauvika teams, I understand now.
Imma get mavuika on my main acc for sure as she's perfect for my roster with kinich xilonen clorinde (even tho i was getting her anyway) , as for citlali i wish she worked well with hu tao cos i have her on my alt acc but with what u said ill either get her anyway or maybe arle or skip depends on what is there on 5.4 , love ur vids man
Who should you pull? More like who you shouldn’t skip - Citlali is probably going to the cryo jail until the very end of Khaenri’ah.
i need 2 clorinde cons and a mavuika from this patch, im so cooked!!!
I believe
@@FliponYT i can only win on clorinde banners anyways surely i get blessed in like 2 months 🙏
I really appreciate Hoyo for making a Top 3 DPS unit then immediately pushing her out of that Top 3 right after I finished x3 crowning her
Is this what it's like to be an Ayato main?
My other side is my c3r2 Raiden hypercarry
I’ve already taken Xilonen out to replace with Kazuha
So my current plan for a Mavuika team is Mavuika, Furina, Xilonen and Citlali (if I get her)
Does that team work?
Also if I can’t get Citlali, will burst support Ganyu work?
I’m stuck between burst support Ganyu for better application to get some melts or Charlotte to at least get 1 or 2 melts but being able to max out Furina’s fanfare?
Which will be better?
i'm getting arlecchino because she can self sustain (i might not need it cause for some reason i keep getting defence)
My clorinde is rly good and I surprises me ( I'm ftp and don't have any of her cons or her we apo) try this team her chevruse Thoma Sara and put the new event wepon on her ( the purple sword) any way for each basic it hits like 15k then 16k on the zip attack which Is way more than what I've seen on any Agrrivate team with clorinde hope this is informational