I know it personally and trying to get rid of new tire I got. Not eating for several hours helps to at least fit a holster on but at the end of the day I got a bruise that stays around for a couple days.
Being a 6’2” 280lb dude, I just wear my grungiest cut off denim, most offensive hardcore or death metal t-shirt, and hope the slap of my flip flops distracts everyone from the conspicuous protrustion from my 19X’s SLR magwell.
Wow, that gun height v. hip to hip ratio is super informative. I've been struggling to fine tune the concealment of my PX4 Compact ever since I mounted a dot on there; I had *really* been underestimating the size relative to the width of my hips. Thank you for sharing this!
Im 6’1 170lb so in pretty good shape. That said, my compensated g17 w/ a +2 extension still prints a little when using clothes that fit me just right. I usually have to wear a long & somewhat loose shirt to conceal the gun. Simple fix really, even works well with jogging shorts
I'm glad you clarified how to measure INSIDE your hips. I must have missed it when I first heard Tessa talk about this. I was measuring from the outside of my hips initially. I'm now realizing that my G19 grip is really big for me to try to conceal. It has been discouraging, but this makes me feel a little better. I thought there was something I was missing.
That’s not frequently reported to us as an issue. In the rare instance that we hear of it, it’s typically a holster adjustment issue solved by following the Floodlight2 adjustment instruction video.
Honestly I've just been running a G29 appendix IWB with a $15 trigger guard that I loop to my belt with paracord for the last year. Pressure from the (leather) belt holds the gun in place. Not ideal but the width of the gun is all I have to account for, as opposed to the gun + a holster. Having a belt from Wrangler and not some dress belt with a swivel on the buckle helped.
PDP 4.5” Steel Frame has been my go to. Only way I’m able to effectively carry it is with an enigma and that’s with athletic shorts and a t shirt. I found since the grip is longer relative to my hip width that 11:30 is the sweet spot to get optimal grip rotation. Once I got everything dialed in I hardly notice I have a 40oz gun in my waistband.
great video! Now I have a scientific calculation to help pick out my consul gun. I have a Glock 19 and 43 but my hand is too large for the 43..With the calculations It can help determine which guns to stay away from
Well this explains a lot I been carrying a full size PDP and a full size Vp9 for the last 2 years . Just measure and my ratio is 50% for the PDP and about 45% with the vp9. No wonder why people look at me like a just pull a rabbit out of a hat when I draw from conceal at Shooting matches 😂.
In many jurisdictions, printing is not considered open carry. Check your local laws as well, but being fit and trim is a good way to alleviate that concern if you have it.
So a shield plus with an optic and pinky extension is 5.5 inches. “Hard” for anyone with less than 10 inches of hip bone distance (I’m right at 10). That… doesn’t feel right. This gun is quite easy to conceal. I feel like whether you have a “hard” gun because of an optic or a long grip is at least somewhat meaningful.
There are, of course, additional factors at play. Body shape comes into play, your tolerance for discomfort, how you’re dressed, and your definition of “concealed.” We’ve based this on having seen tens of thousands of customer photos in our group and our support inbox, and we’ve found these measurements to be statistically significant predictors of what kinds of additional accommodations and sacrifices most people will need to make in order to *comfortably and invisibly* carry pistols of certain relative sizes to their bodies.
I hope phlister is doing well. Ironically, your product is so good I haven’t had to replace anything in the 3ish years I’ve been carrying with it. So while I support your company sadly I have no reason to do so monetarily.
Great video and well presented...but when I saw this "holster" setup and the leg tie down and basically installing a corset every time you want to conceal carry, I was like...whaaat? Very few if any "normal" folks are going to put up with this or do this every day. Weight is the issue (both gun and body)...that does NOT change no matter how you hold it, move it, or tie it down. What's next, I want to conceal carry my shockwave shotgun...new from pant leg holsters...
@@brianbence1814 I’d recommend checking out our other videos about this product, as well as the PHLster Concealment Workshop Facebook group. It’s definitely not what you think at first glance.
Dang, I didn’t realize the concealment percent principle was measured from the inside of your hip bones… just went from challenge accepted, to hard mode range 😂
I assume that one conceals a gun so that it is available at any moment of time maybe for years why to select a giant gun for this purpose in the first place? Maybe IT is better to always have a baby browning or a PPK or even a derenger rather than from time to time a 1911 or a desert eagle? Of course as the author smartly noticed it depends on your body size.
It's a trade-off between ease of concealment and ease of shooting/firepower, and everyone has a different opinion on how much comfort they're willing to sacrifice vs how many rounds they want to have or if they want a red dot or a light or what have you. I fully agree with your main idea that smaller guns are more likely to actually be carried every day.
@@bugnut4432 this is a dangerous trade-off because it leads to the situation when one day one decides to not sacrifice so much and it is exactly this day when one needed this gun. Let be fair not every person will ever have a case to use one. If one has a gun and able to deploy it in this rare situation he/she has won 90%. On the other hand a bit more fire power and you left it home because it looks weired with this pants. It is like wear too eng but beautiful shoes.
@@johnnycruiser2846 I suspect you’re palpating the wrong part of the pelvis and under-measuring by a couple inches. I’ve never heard a measurement that low, yet.
My rotation: of H&K - the VP9 MATCH, VP9 w/pmm comp, USP EXPERT, P30L w/pmm comp. When bold, the SIG P320 SPECTRE COMP. All of this is made possible by PHLster. If I am feeling cheeky i will carry the USP 45 ELITE, and yell "HAPPY HALLOWEEN" on the draw. Brought to you by PHLster.
Carrying a gun in something as easily and commonly stolen as a purse or satchel seems like a bad idea. Drawing from a backpack would take far too long compared to an appendix holster. Now, secret service style carry is a hot idea, you can have basically anything you want under a jacket and deploy it quickly
And the purpose of carrying a giant gun concealed is???? Some gun owners actually scare me as they are too into it and are beyond personally defending themselves. They have to compensate just like all the other things they own. I used to work in a large FFL and there were plenty of “those guys” and they always needed to be told to knock off the cowboy crap in the ranges.
Better control when shooting in a self-defense scenario to make sure that you are quickly and accurately hitting your legally justified target, and nothing else? You’re clearly just a propagandist, and I highly doubt you ever worked for an FFL, or you never would have even asked this question, because you would have already known the answer.
All else being equal, bigger guns are easier to shoot. There’s more to hold onto, the perceived recoil will generally be slightly less, and if you’re using iron sights you’ll have a longer sight radius which means more accuracy. All of these are good things to have in self-defense situations. I assure you that those of us that are actually CONCEALING larger pistols aren’t doing it to be a “cowboy”, in fact you will probably never know it’s there because my holsters do a great job of concealing and my demeanor would never lead you to believe that I was armed.
@@tnpsheepdog3289 another bit; as pointed out in the video, if you are using an optic, that also makes the gun bigger as far as concealment goes. There are a lot of things other than "how big around it is" that can make for a big gun.
If i am unfortunate enough to be in a life or death situation where i have to fight, i want to win, why would i not carry the best pistol i can possibly carry and afford
One thing that helped me a lot was losing weight and staying healthy. Im not sure if people want to hear that but its the truth.
Some people don't want to hear it but they need to hear it. From weapon concealment, to life in general, you'll feel better.
I know it personally and trying to get rid of new tire I got. Not eating for several hours helps to at least fit a holster on but at the end of the day I got a bruise that stays around for a couple days.
@@saintsinningsword I reduced the amount that I eat and work out regularly, I've lost pounds.
Whether people want to hear it or not, that's not something most can get done overnight.
@@ecobasetech4558 that's true it takes time, but its worth the effort.
Yeah, 4 inches is absolutely giant. Some would say almost too much.
She looks like she could handle so much more.
@Cuandoman yeah. 'She'
Perfect to figure out how to handle that Deagle
Being a 6’2” 280lb dude, I just wear my grungiest cut off denim, most offensive hardcore or death metal t-shirt, and hope the slap of my flip flops distracts everyone from the conspicuous protrustion from my 19X’s SLR magwell.
The unfortunate thing is everyone knows you carry a gun so you don’t have to be fit enough to fight.
Wow, that gun height v. hip to hip ratio is super informative. I've been struggling to fine tune the concealment of my PX4 Compact ever since I mounted a dot on there; I had *really* been underestimating the size relative to the width of my hips. Thank you for sharing this!
You're nailed all explanation. you're born for pass information to public. congratulation! 👏🏆🥇
Im 6’1 170lb so in pretty good shape. That said, my compensated g17 w/ a +2 extension still prints a little when using clothes that fit me just right. I usually have to wear a long & somewhat loose shirt to conceal the gun. Simple fix really, even works well with jogging shorts
I'm glad you clarified how to measure INSIDE your hips. I must have missed it when I first heard Tessa talk about this. I was measuring from the outside of my hips initially. I'm now realizing that my G19 grip is really big for me to try to conceal. It has been discouraging, but this makes me feel a little better. I thought there was something I was missing.
One of the most complete explanations to date on how to assess and carry.
Highly recommend people share and watch this
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PHLsters info has helped me somewhat conceal a Glock 45 on my tiny waist 😂😂
Thanks as always guys and you Tessah!
I don't always appendix carry but when I do my Enigma is the way I go. It's more comfy than any other type of of holster.
saving this for when i can get an appendix carry holster for my desert eagle
Great video on a common topic. Straight and to the point with good explanation!
I carry a Roland 17 in my Enigma setup at 1 O'clock. It also helps I'm built like a door
My wife’s PPQ covers 70% of her interhip space 😂
That's what we would call...a GIANT gun haha.
Very informative strategic and too the point of course, I don’t aiwb but impressive. A vid on strong side would be appreciated.
I’ve used enigma with light bearing, Staccato P, RCR, and SUREFIRE x300 since the new light bearing came out. Deep carry is fantastic.
Solid video, as always. Thanks, PHLster!
Has Phlster corrected the TLR1 weapon lights turning on with the floodlight 2.0?
That’s not frequently reported to us as an issue. In the rare instance that we hear of it, it’s typically a holster adjustment issue solved by following the Floodlight2 adjustment instruction video.
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As the most informative vid I've seen on this topic. Great job!
EDC Strong hand , T Rex hybrid holster and a glock 34 with no issues
Honestly I've just been running a G29 appendix IWB with a $15 trigger guard that I loop to my belt with paracord for the last year. Pressure from the (leather) belt holds the gun in place. Not ideal but the width of the gun is all I have to account for, as opposed to the gun + a holster. Having a belt from Wrangler and not some dress belt with a swivel on the buckle helped.
Also wearing an unbuttoned long sleeve shirt like an oxford, flannel, aloha shirt over a t shirt really helps.
Great information. Thank you
PDP 4.5” Steel Frame has been my go to. Only way I’m able to effectively carry it is with an enigma and that’s with athletic shorts and a t shirt. I found since the grip is longer relative to my hip width that 11:30 is the sweet spot to get optimal grip rotation. Once I got everything dialed in I hardly notice I have a 40oz gun in my waistband.
C'mon now, where's your Glock 40 10mm phlster holster?😂
A structured top is veeeery useful when outdoors in windy situations
Great explanation!!! Well done!! :)
Very nice video!
great video! Now I have a scientific calculation to help pick out my consul gun. I have a Glock 19 and 43 but my hand is too large for the 43..With the calculations It can help determine which guns to stay away from
Very good video.
As someone in possession of a micro gun, I'm just curious to watch this video. She gives good explanation.
Love my enigma, and the Henry holsters spark for my Glock 47 with a radian ramjet 😅 idk how, but it’s possible thanks to yall 😂
Great videos, i was alittle taken back by the cute petite girl but got over that real quick. Keep it up, your easy to listen to. Learning alot.
She runs the Armed and Styled channel. She's the real deal.
How applicable is this if the hip space and valley of the abdomen is filled by tummy?
Two options: lose the tummy or expand it enough that it can fold over
The Concealment Percentage Principle takes into account a rounded tummy. The measuring process would be the same.
Well this explains a lot I been carrying a full size PDP and a full size Vp9 for the last 2 years . Just measure and my ratio is 50% for the PDP and about 45% with the vp9. No wonder why people look at me like a just pull a rabbit out of a hat when I draw from conceal at Shooting matches 😂.
Having a chest helps a lot, both with men and women
In many jurisdictions, printing is not considered open carry. Check your local laws as well, but being fit and trim is a good way to alleviate that concern if you have it.
I just carry 3 small guns. Cz75 compact appendix, 365 in pocket, j frame on ankle…who needs a big gun, 3 inches is fine
Why three guns? Why not two, or four?
@@yobrodontshoot1130 three is company, four is a crowd
Instructions unclear.. I have my wife’s outfit on now
I wish the enigma would have holsters for 10mm Glocks.
You can use the Light Bearing Enigma Express or the Enigma OS and a compatible holster of your choice.
Floodlight
So a shield plus with an optic and pinky extension is 5.5 inches. “Hard” for anyone with less than 10 inches of hip bone distance (I’m right at 10). That… doesn’t feel right. This gun is quite easy to conceal. I feel like whether you have a “hard” gun because of an optic or a long grip is at least somewhat meaningful.
There are, of course, additional factors at play.
Body shape comes into play, your tolerance for discomfort, how you’re dressed, and your definition of “concealed.”
We’ve based this on having seen tens of thousands of customer photos in our group and our support inbox, and we’ve found these measurements to be statistically significant predictors of what kinds of additional accommodations and sacrifices most people will need to make in order to *comfortably and invisibly* carry pistols of certain relative sizes to their bodies.
Are these numbers the same for men? I am what an average sized male and that puts even a shield plus as challenge accepted.
@@dylans2669 yes they are
So, I want to conceal a 500 mag snub. Any tips? It doesn't seem possible
What the fuck do you need to cc a 500 magnum for? Are the robbers in your area bears?
I hope phlister is doing well. Ironically, your product is so good I haven’t had to replace anything in the 3ish years I’ve been carrying with it. So while I support your company sadly I have no reason to do so monetarily.
Great presenter. Other comments are correct, most people struggle because they need to lose weight.
just gonna duct tape it to my belly and do a bodybuilder's vacuum everywhere
Great video and well presented...but when I saw this "holster" setup and the leg tie down and basically installing a corset every time you want to conceal carry, I was like...whaaat? Very few if any "normal" folks are going to put up with this or do this every day. Weight is the issue (both gun and body)...that does NOT change no matter how you hold it, move it, or tie it down. What's next, I want to conceal carry my shockwave shotgun...new from pant leg holsters...
@@brianbence1814 I’d recommend checking out our other videos about this product, as well as the PHLster Concealment Workshop Facebook group. It’s definitely not what you think at first glance.
I just wear baggy shirts primarily Hawaiians and flannels.
gun in the thumbnail? Walther PDF?
Handgun Hero sounds really sick, like Guitar Hero but with guns
Dang, I didn’t realize the concealment percent principle was measured from the inside of your hip bones… just went from challenge accepted, to hard mode range 😂
What is it called when the percentage is above 100%? Asking for a friend 😂
I weigh 135 lb and conceal a full size 10mm. The only catch is it has to be around 4 o'clock to be comfortable and concealed for me
I watched this video to learn to conceal my other giant gun
It's too bad these don't fit Caniks. I would buy them in a heartbeat.
I assume that one conceals a gun so that it is available at any moment of time maybe for years why to select a giant gun for this purpose in the first place? Maybe IT is better to always have a baby browning or a PPK or even a derenger rather than from time to time a 1911 or a desert eagle? Of course as the author smartly noticed it depends on your body size.
It's a trade-off between ease of concealment and ease of shooting/firepower, and everyone has a different opinion on how much comfort they're willing to sacrifice vs how many rounds they want to have or if they want a red dot or a light or what have you. I fully agree with your main idea that smaller guns are more likely to actually be carried every day.
@@bugnut4432 this is a dangerous trade-off because it leads to the situation when one day one decides to not sacrifice so much and it is exactly this day when one needed this gun. Let be fair not every person will ever have a case to use one. If one has a gun and able to deploy it in this rare situation he/she has won 90%. On the other hand a bit more fire power and you left it home because it looks weired with this pants. It is like wear too eng but beautiful shoes.
I think people should be able to master a few guns and alternate as needed. I’m a compact gun guy, but a full size has its place on occasion.
Not me appendix carrying my full size duty m&p with an aim point acro, x300, and spare mag.
It's pretty easy when you do it every day 😏
Wait where is this Enigma tune up class?
We host two a month online. Sign up for our email list on the website and you’ll get Friday’s newsletter with upcoming dates.
@@PHLster awesome thank you!
Me-laughs in comped 1911.
Just be in shape, I could conceal a 6" 1911 no problem
Those are some good tips, but all of that barrel below the belt line, I don’t know how that’s comfortable for people.
I love my tiny gun 😅 good ole j frame disappears, always on me
Carry a Mk23, with the suppressor attached = Speed Run Heavens gate race.
I just wear a big ass hawaiian shirt to cover my M9
More holsterganda
How so?
So a 20 cm distance between the bones and a 14 cm high compact, means 70 %. My compact is a GIANT hardcore non-carryable gun. Got it.
20cm sounds like you’ve measured incorrectly. That’s a very small span.
@@PHLster I wonder what's normal or average, but I am a male with thin frame and flat stomach. 20 is actually rounded up 😅
@@johnnycruiser2846 I suspect you’re palpating the wrong part of the pelvis and under-measuring by a couple inches. I’ve never heard a measurement that low, yet.
Well, time to go school
Biggest thing: Have an anatomically thin body. My legs are where a lot of my weight is. From childhood.
Hk mk23
My G42 is giant gun for me 😅
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Wadya mean my Shadow 2 will print
My measurements where 8inches on me with a 6.5 inch gun I'm to dang small for basically anything
A 6.5" gun larger than a desert eagle. So either your measurements are skewed or you are carrying a very big gun.
@@PHLster 19x with a holosun 508t is 6.5 inches she said from the optic to the grip
I could care less about printing. People get so hung up on it they get their firearm so tight to their body they need a snatch rope to get it out
My gun is > 55% the issue is more the barrel
Glock 40 10mm. Go big or go home
My rotation: of H&K - the VP9 MATCH, VP9 w/pmm comp, USP EXPERT, P30L w/pmm comp. When bold, the SIG P320 SPECTRE COMP. All of this is made possible by PHLster. If I am feeling cheeky i will carry the USP 45 ELITE, and yell "HAPPY HALLOWEEN" on the draw. Brought to you by PHLster.
"screw your results"... lol - Perhaps you mean skew.
Haha! Good catch! Yes, the intended term was skew.
While i heard the woman speaking i checked if im still on the ccw Video😂🤯☕️
Wait until you guys find out about satchels or backpacks.
Carrying a gun in something as easily and commonly stolen as a purse or satchel seems like a bad idea. Drawing from a backpack would take far too long compared to an appendix holster.
Now, secret service style carry is a hot idea, you can have basically anything you want under a jacket and deploy it quickly
@@bugnut4432Why would you need to draw from a backpack? If I need to use it, it doesn't need to be seen, and backpacks are cheap.
Shoulder holster is the answer.
It has it's pros and cons...I do honestly prefer it to the appendix carry, but folks will be different...
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I love how American this video is 😂
Why ppl conceal their carry? If i had a gun i would proudly show it.
Not advisable. Guns are targets.
And the purpose of carrying a giant gun concealed is???? Some gun owners actually scare me as they are too into it and are beyond personally defending themselves. They have to compensate just like all the other things they own. I used to work in a large FFL and there were plenty of “those guys” and they always needed to be told to knock off the cowboy crap in the ranges.
You clicked on a video about concealing large guns and are commenting on that video, who is too into it?
Better control when shooting in a self-defense scenario to make sure that you are quickly and accurately hitting your legally justified target, and nothing else? You’re clearly just a propagandist, and I highly doubt you ever worked for an FFL, or you never would have even asked this question, because you would have already known the answer.
All else being equal, bigger guns are easier to shoot. There’s more to hold onto, the perceived recoil will generally be slightly less, and if you’re using iron sights you’ll have a longer sight radius which means more accuracy. All of these are good things to have in self-defense situations. I assure you that those of us that are actually CONCEALING larger pistols aren’t doing it to be a “cowboy”, in fact you will probably never know it’s there because my holsters do a great job of concealing and my demeanor would never lead you to believe that I was armed.
@@tnpsheepdog3289 another bit; as pointed out in the video, if you are using an optic, that also makes the gun bigger as far as concealment goes. There are a lot of things other than "how big around it is" that can make for a big gun.
If i am unfortunate enough to be in a life or death situation where i have to fight, i want to win, why would i not carry the best pistol i can possibly carry and afford