This, 100%. I spent 8 years in the Army, but I've learned quite a few "new" tricks from this channel. Completely flipped how I sling my weapons, too... My two closest friends down south appreciate the increased retention.
This is great, answered quite a few of my uncertainties about best practices for attaching slings. Less "right and wrong" and more "here's what to think about and why". Good stuff fellow Warrior Poets, carry on!
The best advice is simple try a few things out, figure out what feels the most natural, comfortable & what works best. Then practice practice practice 🤔
So much has changed since my Army days. These modern combat slings were not invented yet. If I ever had to re-enlist they better drop me off at the Post museum to get fitted out. Last time I had a helmet on my head it was that old steel pot with a helmet liner.
I prefer my sling mounted like John at the end, I attach at the rear of the receiver and first mlok slot closest to receiver. 100% it bumps the knee when not wearing armor. Now, my hunting rifles are generally set like Paul's specifically for the wrapping of the sling as an extra contact point. Great video and great points all the way around. Thanks for the content!
I'm a big fan of the Warrior Poet Sling. Way back in 87s while in the Army I improvised a similar sling. I used the issue M16A2 sling looped and duct taped to the back of the M16A2 stock and connected with a bungie cord to the front sight post. I did this mostly because I hated carrying the rifle at port arms for hours at a time during long marches. But it fulfilled most of the same Warrior Poet Sling functionality. (This wasn't my idea BTW - other soldiers did it before me. John doesn't have to worry about a frivolous patent claim.) The crucial differences are the Warrior Poet Sling has the elastic at the rear and is much more easy to attach/detach and adjust. Well, that and it has good build quality. It doesn't look like something bodged together by a junior enlisted soldier out of random stuff and duct tape.
Attaching to the back of the receiver gives you much more manouverabilitie and the sling doesnt have to "slide" across your back to have that manouverability to do reloads and clearances in your "workspace" !
AR platform user since 1984, LEO since 1987, and was firearms instructor for 16 years. Currently running the WPS sling on duty weapon and loving it. Will be on next build also.
If I run a front sling swivel far out I find it gets in the way of my hand. Closer in my hand is free to be anywhere on the rail without being imeaded by the sling.
Thanks for the sling tips, not all of us are battle hardened. Thanks for the great sling, it came a few weeks ago for my 1st AR. It did allow me to take a range day even though I’m still waiting on a brace to arrive.
Paul is right about the foreard sling mount position for all the reasons stated plus is is easier to swim in and out of. I'm not completely convinced the rear outside mounting point is the way to go but I'm willing to try it again.
You guys are cracking me up! This video is perfect for me since I've been experimenting with sling position. I don't have body armor and have gravitated to what Paul has set up. But, like Paul said, i need to now spend a bunch of time working through and repeating the mode transitions. Thanks guys!!
You had a new customer at Fudd Factor. Thanks guys. My best friend Max turned me on to you guys and taught me how to train with my rifle from one of your classes.
Excellent points all around, guys. I have multiple options on my rifles, I love that about QD sling attachments. I can run what's going to work best in a given scenario, and if a situation arises, I'm aware in advance of any compromises that may come from each possible configuration. My typical bedside gun setup is rear of the receiver and receiver end of the handguard, loosey goosey, easy to get in and out of with room to manipulate, but that's a very specific condition. Also, thanks for reminding me to practice my manipulations and transitions!
Thanks for explaining why on all the options. Makes it so much easier to evaluate sling setup for myself. This is the most useful sling setup video I have seen.
Oh John, that was a shameless plug for the WPS sling(s). I have one of each, but I prefer the MagPul MS4. The MagPul sling is a little heavier and I like the slider for adjustment. I personally don't care for the bungy portion of your slings. The wrinkled portion of the sling can get caught on my kit. As to where to connect the sling on the rifle, I always connect the rear QD like you do on the right side of the stock. As for the forward connection a lot of that depends on the gun. My guns run from a braced 9" Sig MCX Spear LT , which is the gun I used when I took Rifle 1-3, to a 24" AR Precision Rifle. It is pretty obvious that these guns and all the guns in between need to be slung differently for how they will be carried and used. Before I close, I really want to put a shout out for WPS Rifle 1, 2, and 3 courses. I took them in Garrettsville, OH. It was great training. Paul was the lead instructor. Rifle 1 goes over the basics including how to properly setup your sling. Rifle 2 & 3 are how to move and shoot, use barricades, etc. The courses are physically demanding. Something I really appreciated were the instructors never asked us do something in training that they didn't fully demonstrate first. This is truly advanced training. Paul and his crew were some of the best instructors I have ever seen.
Thank you for the sling tips. I bought the sling from your site after watching this video. I hunted with an AR for the first time last week. The sling worked out perfectly for me and I have venison in the freezer as a bonus.
Thank you for that instruction. I’ve never used this approach in training for trigger control. I love it. I’ve used it a few days now and I’m getting better.
No Shade at you John Because I love you man and I listen to your book on Audible at least once a month but you don't have the chest and arms that Paul has so its probably easier for you to stow your rifle lol. In all honesty I love your videos and you guys have gotten me through some rough times. Thank you
I ran a 1-point/2-point custom sling setup in Afghanistan that was sick, and still what I use today. enabled seamless ambidextrous shooting, and could be front, side or back sung equally well (patrol, chow line, carrying stuff...), and I even could run it with a dual slung shotgun with neither sling (rifle and shotgun) interfering with one another. And worked great for vehicles too as the sling came on/off the rifle in an instant. In the 2-point configuration, it worked very similar to what is shown here (John's setup), but it was a little different. But worked just as well (was even better for an ambidextrous transition than what is shown here). 4:50 my sling setup worked just as well with body armor, in both the 1-point and 2-point configs.
I am glad to see this content coming back. I saw this video and finally pulled the trigger on a WPS sling. Mine did not come with a quick tab like in the video and I would like to know why. That’s what finally got me to order it.
just found your channel today and I'm glad I did. Most of the things you said in your "personality test" video I can relate to because I served on a submarine.
My only point of contention is the rear mointing point... This is great if you're exclusively using a 2 point configuration, but is a no go for folding stocks/braces and those who swap between single and dual point configuration. I absolutely love that you properly sling the weapon beneath the non-firing arm, however! I'm always blown away when people sling it beneath their firing arm. If you're new to this stuff and reading these comments, follow WPS. The tips are top shelf.
I love the back and forth, getting two perspectives. Lets talk plate carriers...I can see that John is wearing the RAC plate carrier, but what kind of plate carrier is Paul wearing? I don't see it on the site.
Awesome content, Thank you very much!!! Recently went shooting with my AR for the first time not at a range with a bench and sandbags and found my ability to use the sling completely horrible. I looked almost as incompetent as a Democrat. This was VERY useful, will definitely be practicing with these tips in mind (and likely re-watching).
As a civilian and 57 years old and a little tummy. Not Gravy Seal but deff Dad Bod I like the point in the rear under reviver/buffer attachment when running kit. I don’t run armor as a civilian due to my age and physical condition. Instead of that much weight in armor I’m taking mags. Lots of them. My thoughts are as a civilian and I’m kitted up things have gone very wrong and there will be no logistics bringing me supplies. So my kits is double stacked on the chest and I need the clearance to keep muzzle straight down as possible when in a group setting. Good video though and I’d love to try your sling.
I run this sling an love it. genius idea and now i like theForrell concepts ran it for a long time. But this one is a no brainer especially if you have on kit .with the quick quick release buckle heck i dont even have to look at the buckle most of the time i throw strap across it finds the other end an snaps in place easy when wearing a vest now im 5.4 you would think it hang an drag the ground even running and gunning does not slap the knees and the Bungie gives you just enough punch out for any transition if you dont have one you need one
answered sooo many of my questions. In CA I run a mini14 (save the hate, yall!! haha) and my attachment points are “wonky/limited”. Thanks fellas. Also, your laughter during the “I dont wanna change” moment, made me sing that one song….”people let me tell you bout my beeeeeeest friiieeeeeend” lol. Yall work well together. Hope to train soon. California, Paul???
When i was in the army i favored the single point sling from the buttstock, keeps from fumbling with the tension on your barrel from the sling and easy enough to keep out of the way down your side or across your back (i was field artillery so we usually swung our m4s out of the way durring fire missons)
Just got my first AR and trying to figure out a sling solition, since i will be going to an outdoor complex a lot and generally want to get used to using one. That bungee section looks like a game changer enough to have me to right to the website and order one. Will be experimenting with different mounting points to see what feels right. Thanks homies 🤙
I agree with Paul. Run the front Qd mount farther down the hand guard . You can brace it with your arm in the front similar to a classic hasty sling. Paul is correct
I found when running around in classes the rear mounting is better on rear end plate. It's comfy on the right side of the stock yes, but it tends to fall off your shoulder when your pumping your arms. Front is good near the barrel nut, YMMV
I cannot afford $110 for a sling........But I did find a Magpul sling which is identical to yours on Amazon. It's good quality and I am happy with it. I really enjoyed your video, and appreciate your Christian content. The sling setup's you guys demonstrated makes great sense. I like your setup for mine, John. Thanks
Amateur user, but I mount to the receiver end-plate and near along the handguard as my predominant use is hunting/stalking in winter and I find that such a setup allows me more maneuverability - I can sling the the stock higher behind me to keep the barrel higher as I cross over obstacles and then rotate it back in front with ease, also makes it easy to adjust length-of-pull for different situations or different users.
Thanks for this video, it's given me something to think about and try. I'm sporting DMR rifle with a bit more length, and have struggled with getting the right setup for me.
John hit the nail on the head! Sliding is a problem with the bungie system; your neck feels raw after a few repetitions. Yes, it can be mitigated with thicker collared shirt, but having to get change clothes so you can dry fire is an unnecessary training impediment; go with the near -reciever attachment point.
Got slings for my tools a few years back and I had no clue! I had maybe 1 or 2- then realized how would I work and carry my tools at same time? Got dual point but now I’m going to revisit my setups to get prepared
I run my warrior poet sling two different ways. Qd slots as far as part for run and gun or patrolling for stability. For cqb I bring the qd to the receiver and to the lower end plate for maximum weapon movement.
Another factor to consider for the forward mounting point is if a man has real shoulders, delts, and arms he needs a broader circle to get around him. Whereas if they are more toothpick size then attaching at the closer mid point would work well.
This is why I use the McLean sling. Single point is better for shooting, 2 point is better for admin and when your not shooting. It combines the 2 and is really easy to keep on the gun without getting in the way or having to attach a bunch or rubber bands.
Moral of the video: just because you see alot of people running a sling one way, try a couple different ways and find out what you prefer. The butt stock should always be away from the shooter but play with different positions for the front of the sling. If you utilize QD attachments, make sure you clean them with non chlorinated brake cleaner and then a couple drops of lube. I've seen them get rusty and get stuck, or they just drop loose. It's a moving part so keep it clean. I use brake cleaner bc oil traps dust and dirt, brake cleaner cleans all that crap out of there but you need to lube it immediately after it dries
I like my sling at the rear of the receiver so I can take my stock over my shoulder to clear a threshold or a corner without getting the sling caught on my back or armor or chestrig depending on context. I will run my forward attachment all the way forward right behind my light which I feel allows me the most control and the ability to use sling tension to stabilize. The only con I will say to running at the rear of the receiver is running the charging handle for reloads and malfunction clearances which for me was a small thing I had to train around mainly through dry practice.
Far forward is the way to go as demonstrated. Also using the sling as added tension for stability. But instead of using the QD on the butt stock I hardpoint the rear sling with about a 5" loop on the end where the stock hits my body. I can transition shoulders without choking myself out. Keeping it close to my body by my neck doesn't matter and is irritating like hell.
Paul explains well why the furthest forward point is a good choice. For me, as soon as I start shooting 50 and in I run it 'necklaced' with it just around my neck. If I'm shooting 50 and out I put my arm back in the sling, and 100 and out I might actually wrap the sling around to brace the rifle steady.
John's probably works with me more, having tried both, mostly because the sling would snag or grab on my weak-side belt add-ons. Kept the sling tight to me and up away from my belt in my use case
If I'm not mistaken, John has changed his mind on the rear attachment point. In a previous video also expressly about slings he advocated and defended the ejection port side. In this video he now favors the support side.
Great ideas and points well taken. I like my ARs, AKs and HKs, so the slings all mount differently so I just need to get used to each platform. Thanks for the vid!
We’re all happy this content is returning.
me too man
"Pick a technic get really good at it and have a valid reason for using it" ... Great advice 👍
Good spelling skills should be a prerequisite for posting comments.
Paul is the battle gnome and you’re a troll…
Technique. Real hard to spell check. Tard
Probably the best out of the whole video...
😂😂😂😂
John and Battle Gnome!!!! Today is a good day!!
I love the"Options NOT Absolutes" takes you guys give. Keep'em coming
This, 100%.
I spent 8 years in the Army, but I've learned quite a few "new" tricks from this channel. Completely flipped how I sling my weapons, too... My two closest friends down south appreciate the increased retention.
I'm new to the AR community and I appreciate learning new content ..
Welcome to the community.
Welcome friend!
Welcome. It's a deep rabbit hole to dive into. Have fun and stay safe!
Enjoy the new addiction
Be careful while building. It's a neverending rabbit hole. You will find most of us on your journey. Have fun 😂
This is great, answered quite a few of my uncertainties about best practices for attaching slings. Less "right and wrong" and more "here's what to think about and why". Good stuff fellow Warrior Poets, carry on!
... and Paul is less-wrong this round than John.
Tactical Papa Smurf makes some good points.
I thought we were calling him "Battle gnome"!?!?
Is this dude so amazing, he's got multiple alias's?
Lmao
The best advice is simple try a few things out, figure out what feels the most natural, comfortable & what works best. Then practice practice practice 🤔
I really like the 75% hard and fast must do, and 25% art. I can see the advantages of both setups, and its fun watching them pick on each other!
John and Paul content is the best
Bought one of your slings last week and it should be arriving this Saturday. Very excited and proud to support everything you do.
So much has changed since my Army days. These modern combat slings were not invented yet. If I ever had to re-enlist they better drop me off at the Post museum to get fitted out. Last time I had a helmet on my head it was that old steel pot with a helmet liner.
2010 rc west Afghanistan. I snapped like three slings and those were the three point slings where you’d prob strangle yourself lol
lol I went in 2018 still had the crap ones. 2021 they started giving the good stuff
I prefer my sling mounted like John at the end, I attach at the rear of the receiver and first mlok slot closest to receiver. 100% it bumps the knee when not wearing armor. Now, my hunting rifles are generally set like Paul's specifically for the wrapping of the sling as an extra contact point. Great video and great points all the way around. Thanks for the content!
I'm a big fan of the Warrior Poet Sling.
Way back in 87s while in the Army I improvised a similar sling. I used the issue M16A2 sling looped and duct taped to the back of the M16A2 stock and connected with a bungie cord to the front sight post. I did this mostly because I hated carrying the rifle at port arms for hours at a time during long marches. But it fulfilled most of the same Warrior Poet Sling functionality. (This wasn't my idea BTW - other soldiers did it before me. John doesn't have to worry about a frivolous patent claim.) The crucial differences are the Warrior Poet Sling has the elastic at the rear and is much more easy to attach/detach and adjust. Well, that and it has good build quality. It doesn't look like something bodged together by a junior enlisted soldier out of random stuff and duct tape.
Attaching to the back of the receiver gives you much more manouverabilitie and the sling doesnt have to "slide" across your back to have that manouverability to do reloads and clearances in your "workspace" !
@@korbindallas3783 Yep. It's better than the one I made in almost every measurable way.
I like the John and Paul interactions
'Paul'??
We're calling him "Battle gnome".
AR platform user since 1984, LEO since 1987, and was firearms instructor for 16 years. Currently running the WPS sling on duty weapon and loving it. Will be on next build also.
That's a PHD class in slings. Wow! Thanks for the wisdom.
If I run a front sling swivel far out I find it gets in the way of my hand. Closer in my hand is free to be anywhere on the rail without being imeaded by the sling.
Thanks for the sling tips, not all of us are battle hardened.
Thanks for the great sling, it came a few weeks ago for my 1st AR.
It did allow me to take a range day even though I’m still waiting on a brace to arrive.
Paul is right about the foreard sling mount position for all the reasons stated plus is is easier to swim in and out of. I'm not completely convinced the rear outside mounting point is the way to go but I'm willing to try it again.
Thanks, as an old non-runner & gunner, this was very educational for me.
You guys are cracking me up! This video is perfect for me since I've been experimenting with sling position. I don't have body armor and have gravitated to what Paul has set up. But, like Paul said, i need to now spend a bunch of time working through and repeating the mode transitions. Thanks guys!!
You had a new customer at Fudd Factor. Thanks guys. My best friend Max turned me on to you guys and taught me how to train with my rifle from one of your classes.
For a beginner, this content is invaluable.
I agree to the battle gnome. As far back and forward as I can get a sling the more comfortable it is for me.
Excellent points all around, guys. I have multiple options on my rifles, I love that about QD sling attachments. I can run what's going to work best in a given scenario, and if a situation arises, I'm aware in advance of any compromises that may come from each possible configuration. My typical bedside gun setup is rear of the receiver and receiver end of the handguard, loosey goosey, easy to get in and out of with room to manipulate, but that's a very specific condition.
Also, thanks for reminding me to practice my manipulations and transitions!
Thanks for explaining why on all the options. Makes it so much easier to evaluate sling setup for myself. This is the most useful sling setup video I have seen.
Had a class with Paul a few years ago. Good dude. Glad to see this content coming back.
Oh John, that was a shameless plug for the WPS sling(s). I have one of each, but I prefer the MagPul MS4. The MagPul sling is a little heavier and I like the slider for adjustment. I personally don't care for the bungy portion of your slings. The wrinkled portion of the sling can get caught on my kit.
As to where to connect the sling on the rifle, I always connect the rear QD like you do on the right side of the stock. As for the forward connection a lot of that depends on the gun. My guns run from a braced 9" Sig MCX Spear LT , which is the gun I used when I took Rifle 1-3, to a 24" AR Precision Rifle. It is pretty obvious that these guns and all the guns in between need to be slung differently for how they will be carried and used.
Before I close, I really want to put a shout out for WPS Rifle 1, 2, and 3 courses. I took them in Garrettsville, OH. It was great training. Paul was the lead instructor. Rifle 1 goes over the basics including how to properly setup your sling. Rifle 2 & 3 are how to move and shoot, use barricades, etc. The courses are physically demanding. Something I really appreciated were the instructors never asked us do something in training that they didn't fully demonstrate first. This is truly advanced training. Paul and his crew were some of the best instructors I have ever seen.
You two make a great team!!!
Thank you for the sling tips. I bought the sling from your site after watching this video. I hunted with an AR for the first time last week. The sling worked out perfectly for me and I have venison in the freezer as a bonus.
Thank you Kind Sirs!
missed this kind of stuff. such simple and intuitive things that we don't give much thought to but really need to.
Thank you for that instruction. I’ve never used this approach in training for trigger control. I love it. I’ve used it a few days now and I’m getting better.
That was fantastic. Really good. You guys are very respectful and you gave excellent pros and cons for the why you do what you do.
I prefer John's sling attachment method. Great job guys!
I bought the WPS sling after watching one of your older videos. Thanks for the videos.
He is the Smurf
Love the advice and experience you share!
I’m in Battle Gnome’s camp on the long sling attachment point. The rifle/muzzle feels more stable and under control to me in that configuration.
me too
I agree with battle gnome.
Same. I also mount from the back of the frame as well like he mentioned. Makes it easier for me to be more maneuverable.
😂😂😂😂
Thank you for the different perspectives
This is an amazing video for all skill levels, very in depth. Thank you
Good discussions, thanks for the presentation
No Shade at you John Because I love you man and I listen to your book on Audible at least once a month but you don't have the chest and arms that Paul has so its probably easier for you to stow your rifle lol. In all honesty I love your videos and you guys have gotten me through some rough times. Thank you
I agree with Mr. battle gnome, that is exactly how I run my slings. Good content, God bless you WPS.
A most excellent presentation! You two work well together! I would serve with you guys any day! 🇺🇸 Shalom! 🙏
I ran a 1-point/2-point custom sling setup in Afghanistan that was sick, and still what I use today. enabled seamless ambidextrous shooting, and could be front, side or back sung equally well (patrol, chow line, carrying stuff...), and I even could run it with a dual slung shotgun with neither sling (rifle and shotgun) interfering with one another. And worked great for vehicles too as the sling came on/off the rifle in an instant.
In the 2-point configuration, it worked very similar to what is shown here (John's setup), but it was a little different. But worked just as well (was even better for an ambidextrous transition than what is shown here).
4:50 my sling setup worked just as well with body armor, in both the 1-point and 2-point configs.
I am glad to see this content coming back. I saw this video and finally pulled the trigger on a WPS sling. Mine did not come with a quick tab like in the video and I would like to know why. That’s what finally got me to order it.
Thanks so much for this video. It is super helpful and straightforward. Keep up the great work.
just found your channel today and I'm glad I did. Most of the things you said in your "personality test" video I can relate to because I served on a submarine.
My only point of contention is the rear mointing point...
This is great if you're exclusively using a 2 point configuration, but is a no go for folding stocks/braces and those who swap between single and dual point configuration.
I absolutely love that you properly sling the weapon beneath the non-firing arm, however! I'm always blown away when people sling it beneath their firing arm.
If you're new to this stuff and reading these comments, follow WPS. The tips are top shelf.
I love the back and forth, getting two perspectives. Lets talk plate carriers...I can see that John is wearing the RAC plate carrier, but what kind of plate carrier is Paul wearing? I don't see it on the site.
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Awesome content, Thank you very much!!! Recently went shooting with my AR for the first time not at a range with a bench and sandbags and found my ability to use the sling completely horrible. I looked almost as incompetent as a Democrat. This was VERY useful, will definitely be practicing with these tips in mind (and likely re-watching).
Ive always had trouble with slings even when the old school guys tried to help me out
Both make great points however I’m with John on the how I run my slings.
Thank you, I enjoy you all sharing your knowledge.
As a civilian and 57 years old and a little tummy. Not Gravy Seal but deff Dad Bod I like the point in the rear under reviver/buffer attachment when running kit. I don’t run armor as a civilian due to my age and physical condition. Instead of that much weight in armor I’m taking mags. Lots of them. My thoughts are as a civilian and I’m kitted up things have gone very wrong and there will be no logistics bringing me supplies. So my kits is double stacked on the chest and I need the clearance to keep muzzle straight down as possible when in a group setting.
Good video though and I’d love to try your sling.
John Willis changed the sling design game years ago with the bungee. Glad to see everyone else is catching on now. Makes a world of difference.
I run this sling an love it. genius idea and now i like theForrell concepts ran it for a long time. But this one is a no brainer especially if you have on kit .with the quick quick release buckle heck i dont even have to look at the buckle most of the time i throw strap across it finds the other end an snaps in place easy when wearing a vest now im 5.4 you would think it hang an drag the ground even running and gunning does not slap the knees and the Bungie gives you just enough punch out for any transition if you dont have one you need one
Bought my WPS sling this week. Can't wait for it to get here.
As a new rifle owner, I am grateful I got all this knowledge for FREE!
For my OIF3 tour, we could not find decent slings for our M4s. So I just used 550 cord and a D ring on my vest.
answered sooo many of my questions. In CA I run a mini14 (save the hate, yall!! haha) and my attachment points are “wonky/limited”. Thanks fellas. Also, your laughter during the “I dont wanna change” moment, made me sing that one song….”people let me tell you bout my beeeeeeest friiieeeeeend” lol. Yall work well together. Hope to train soon. California, Paul???
When i was in the army i favored the single point sling from the buttstock, keeps from fumbling with the tension on your barrel from the sling and easy enough to keep out of the way down your side or across your back (i was field artillery so we usually swung our m4s out of the way durring fire missons)
Just got my first AR and trying to figure out a sling solition, since i will be going to an outdoor complex a lot and generally want to get used to using one. That bungee section looks like a game changer enough to have me to right to the website and order one. Will be experimenting with different mounting points to see what feels right. Thanks homies 🤙
John and Paul you both have great points. I find myself favoring Pauls config on the front and over the butt stock on shooter side.
I agree with Paul. Run the front Qd mount farther down the hand guard . You can brace it with your arm in the front similar to a classic hasty sling. Paul is correct
Paul is right about the for forward attachment
I found when running around in classes the rear mounting is better on rear end plate. It's comfy on the right side of the stock yes, but it tends to fall off your shoulder when your pumping your arms. Front is good near the barrel nut, YMMV
Love the Kore belt. I absolutely will never run any other belt again after buying one. Such a simple but effective concept.
I cannot afford $110 for a sling........But I did find a Magpul sling which is identical to yours on Amazon. It's good quality and I am happy with it. I really enjoyed your video, and appreciate your Christian content. The sling setup's you guys demonstrated makes great sense. I like your setup for mine, John. Thanks
in regards to the sling just as good or better quality
Amateur user, but I mount to the receiver end-plate and near along the handguard as my predominant use is hunting/stalking in winter and I find that such a setup allows me more maneuverability - I can sling the the stock higher behind me to keep the barrel higher as I cross over obstacles and then rotate it back in front with ease, also makes it easy to adjust length-of-pull for different situations or different users.
2:05. Those shoulder transitions are truly fascinating.
i run different length rifles sling setups foward and aft rail... you BOTH are correct.... situation dependant
Paul has that plate carrier looking like a bow tie
Looks like he needs to go up a size for proper coverage
It's only supposed to cover vital organs.
@@CrazyLegz72 nipple to nipple top of sternum to bottom of rib cage. Looks like his is a smidge too small
I was thinking a lobster feed, bib.
I like John's placement of the sling. I do the same. John is RIGHT!....LOL KEEP ON ROCKING! PS: Getting one of our slings!
Love my WPS sling! Been running one for a few years now.
Thanks for this video, it's given me something to think about and try. I'm sporting DMR rifle with a bit more length, and have struggled with getting the right setup for me.
John hit the nail on the head! Sliding is a problem with the bungie system; your neck feels raw after a few repetitions. Yes, it can be mitigated with thicker collared shirt, but having to get change clothes so you can dry fire is an unnecessary training impediment; go with the near -reciever attachment point.
Got slings for my tools a few years back and I had no clue! I had maybe 1 or 2- then realized how would I work and carry my tools at same time? Got dual point but now I’m going to revisit my setups to get prepared
I run my warrior poet sling two different ways. Qd slots as far as part for run and gun or patrolling for stability. For cqb I bring the qd to the receiver and to the lower end plate for maximum weapon movement.
Another factor to consider for the forward mounting point is if a man has real shoulders, delts, and arms he needs a broader circle to get around him. Whereas if they are more toothpick size then attaching at the closer mid point would work well.
This is why I use the McLean sling. Single point is better for shooting, 2 point is better for admin and when your not shooting. It combines the 2 and is really easy to keep on the gun without getting in the way or having to attach a bunch or rubber bands.
fantastic video! Thank you for sharing this with us all.
Moral of the video: just because you see alot of people running a sling one way, try a couple different ways and find out what you prefer. The butt stock should always be away from the shooter but play with different positions for the front of the sling. If you utilize QD attachments, make sure you clean them with non chlorinated brake cleaner and then a couple drops of lube. I've seen them get rusty and get stuck, or they just drop loose. It's a moving part so keep it clean. I use brake cleaner bc oil traps dust and dirt, brake cleaner cleans all that crap out of there but you need to lube it immediately after it dries
I like my sling at the rear of the receiver so I can take my stock over my shoulder to clear a threshold or a corner without getting the sling caught on my back or armor or chestrig depending on context. I will run my forward attachment all the way forward right behind my light which I feel allows me the most control and the ability to use sling tension to stabilize. The only con I will say to running at the rear of the receiver is running the charging handle for reloads and malfunction clearances which for me was a small thing I had to train around mainly through dry practice.
Far forward is the way to go as demonstrated. Also using the sling as added tension for stability. But instead of using the QD on the butt stock I hardpoint the rear sling with about a 5" loop on the end where the stock hits my body. I can transition shoulders without choking myself out. Keeping it close to my body by my neck doesn't matter and is irritating like hell.
Thanks for more tactical wisdom videos. More please!
This is one of those things you find out is (surprisingly) important...When you've done it wrong. Good post WP's.
Great information. Appreciate all you do! Keep the faith and the great work you guys are doing!
Paul explains well why the furthest forward point is a good choice. For me, as soon as I start shooting 50 and in I run it 'necklaced' with it just around my neck. If I'm shooting 50 and out I put my arm back in the sling, and 100 and out I might actually wrap the sling around to brace the rifle steady.
John's probably works with me more, having tried both, mostly because the sling would snag or grab on my weak-side belt add-ons. Kept the sling tight to me and up away from my belt in my use case
Thanks y'all!! Very good content!!
I love that I can get advice about raising my children in a godly manner and how to set up a sling olive one channel
morning sir, salutes from Argentina, thanks for your advice, very use full for me
If I'm not mistaken, John has changed his mind on the rear attachment point. In a previous video also expressly about slings he advocated and defended the ejection port side. In this video he now favors the support side.
I'm definitely moving my forward sling mount forward on my rail. It just looks like it makes sense
Great concept for a video. Super helpful. I now know how I’d like to mount my sling.
Great ideas and points well taken. I like my ARs, AKs and HKs, so the slings all mount differently so I just need to get used to each platform. Thanks for the vid!
I moved my sling forward, it works better for me now. Thank you
I also moved the butt point to the outside.
Thank you
I picked up a wps sling over a year ago it Rocks nuff said