How I proved tank is the most MISERABLE role in Overwatch 2

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  • Опубликовано: 31 янв 2025

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  • @ihavecrabs56
    @ihavecrabs56 6 месяцев назад +571

    wow thanks for making this video. because of you blizzard decided to buff every tank and make dps useless. so thanks. people like you are the reason dps is such a miserable experience now. blizzard always nerfs dps and now we wont ever be able to kill a tank because u think its funny to make a video like this. so you better make a video why dps is bad now so blizzard can rever these tank changes. tank players are so much worse than dps players they are just going to get carried now because theyre unkillable. playing tank doesnt even take skill you just stand there.

    • @THEYGUY
      @THEYGUY 6 месяцев назад +1045

      Yeah…this is dumb. You think cause this guy made one video they buffed them🤣. Everyone even tank players think they were over buffed. It’s a game. Chill out.

    • @ihavecrabs56
      @ihavecrabs56 6 месяцев назад +60

      @@THEYGUY well everybody knows dps players are the best at the game and also its the most fun role because as a tank u just stand there and do nothing? lol so why even buff them. tbh does anyone else feel like dps should get more rank points for winning than tanks who do nothing and healers who dont even aim? LOL the only reason im still silver is because i always get THE WORST tanks and healers on my team and now because tanks are even stronger, that means its just a coin flip if good dps like me wins or not because it doesnt matter how good i am if the enemy tank is just better than mine. this is why they need to nerf mercy tbh so people stop playing that no skill dog champ. im a widow main and i have 18% accuracy and if thats not enough to carry a silver lobby, then thats how u know something is seriously wrong with blizzard balance team. they need to be fired and realie that nobody wants to fire into a bullet sponge ok? thats why games like valo and cod are so popular because people die in one tap so blizzard needs to just delete the tank role, delete mercy, and probably just delete every hero except for widow because if u cant hit a flick shot like i can, then you are just a bad player and dont deserve anything higher than bronze. i would be top 500 if it werent for mercy players. DELETE MERCY i HATE YOU BLIZZARD

    • @THEYGUY
      @THEYGUY 6 месяцев назад +379

      @@ihavecrabs56I’m guessing this is bait for laughter (if it is I did laugh so good job), but if this is meant to be taken seriously this is just still more bad logic. If you’re still in silver one you might want to take a look at your own skill. Tanks do not just stand there and do nothing along with healers. 18% accuracy is terrible for widow. And finally if Tanks and Healers do nothing then why are you loosing because you have “bad ones”? Also you can’t compare Val and COD to this because they are different genres and must be handled differently. That’s like me comparing Minecraft and Fortnite. It doesn’t work.

    • @ihavecrabs56
      @ihavecrabs56 6 месяцев назад +48

      @@THEYGUY well minecraft and fortnite are for kids and overwatch is for mature 47 year old adult men such as myself to enjoy. you can tell by how serious and stoic the characters are and how monotone the colors in the game are. its a very realistic shooter and most people just arent capable of handling mature, realistic, uncensored type of game and thats just a fact!! btw i paid 300 dollars for coaching every week from a platinum widow main and he said that with 8 more session with him (ive already paid for 5), my aim will only continue to get better and i should be able to get 19% accuracy and probably be better than most top 500 mercy mains.

    • @liamglen1359
      @liamglen1359 6 месяцев назад +118

      @@ihavecrabs56 you some goofy guy LOL you shoulda made it look more serious now we can all see its a troll, (and if you actually paid 300 dollars for a platinum windowmaker main to coach you GET SCAMMED LOL)

  • @sirrarethecrackhaed7350
    @sirrarethecrackhaed7350 6 месяцев назад +608

    Tank mains after coming from work only to clock in on another 8 hour shift more miserable and exhausting than their actual job

  • @SearcherRyan
    @SearcherRyan 7 месяцев назад +2577

    > Play tank
    > Supports are absolutely clueless, you start to wonder if theyre trolling
    > DPS imagines you as a holy savior that can win every combat even after they died 7 times without doing anything
    > Play support
    > Tank is so bad you dont even get mad anymore, but just stare at the screen blankly
    > DPS starts trying suicidal tactics of rushing into the enemy without anyone else and proceeding to blame you.
    Oh boy i love this game!

    • @sres4
      @sres4 7 месяцев назад +70

      Literally exactly how it feels

    • @GummyDinosaursify
      @GummyDinosaursify 7 месяцев назад +234

      My experience:
      > Play Tank
      > Team get scared by a single Lucio and run away or attempts to chase Ball around map ALL game.
      > I fall over because my entire team is somehow off in Narnia
      > Play DPS
      > Somehow get two DPS only supports and a tank that spends most of their time in our backline playing sniper dva
      > Play Support
      > Tank insists on going in 1v5 every time. DPS constantly spam for heals but refuse to swap off of Genji and Widow into Monkey
      It seems like 1 out of 50 games has a team full of people who actually feel like they know how to play the game. Any other time, I swear i'm playing with people who have never played a video game in their life.

    • @SearcherRyan
      @SearcherRyan 7 месяцев назад +76

      @@GummyDinosaursify the 1/50 statement is so true, mainly because ow2 is free so it's more accessible to more people, and on average they will all suck

    • @localmilfchaser6938
      @localmilfchaser6938 7 месяцев назад

      I get trash dps every time I play tank soooo that’s false LOL.

    • @localmilfchaser6938
      @localmilfchaser6938 7 месяцев назад

      @@GummyDinosaursifymonkey is goated tho

  • @Vectorbro
    @Vectorbro 7 месяцев назад +3111

    There is a reason your group queues up faster when someone picks tank

    • @timothychinye6008
      @timothychinye6008 7 месяцев назад +59

      Say you're not a support player without saying you're not a support player.
      Everytime I queue up with someone who's not support, I get reminded what it's like to not join a gain in literally 10 seconds.
      DPS isn't too bad. Couple minutes max.
      Tank? I played with a tank yesterday, we spent like 20 minutes, waiting and when we finally joined the game, two of my teammates were afk, there was no priority queue for some reason so we queued for like another 10 minutes, until my friend said "yeah, maybe I'll not try tank, I'm go back to support" and as soon as she did that we started playing a game in about 7 seconds.
      After winning that game, it was midnight, so I went to sleep.
      I spent about 1 hour grouped up with my friend and played a single match.

    • @kortosoo7596
      @kortosoo7596 7 месяцев назад

      Your coping u were just in permissive queue say it​@@timothychinye6008

    • @DD-fs7pg
      @DD-fs7pg 7 месяцев назад +146

      @@timothychinye6008
      Yeah it's probably because of your rank. No one queues tank for the most part. Of course there are times when tank queues can be longer but whenever I queue all, tank is picked 8/10 times.

    • @timothychinye6008
      @timothychinye6008 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@DD-fs7pg I'm agreeing with you

    • @firingallcylinders2949
      @firingallcylinders2949 7 месяцев назад +27

      Faster? It's almost instant. I am a Diamond-Masters tank and I legit have 5 second ques sometimes.

  • @Hraesvelg
    @Hraesvelg 7 месяцев назад +1634

    I now realise having another tank in 6v6 was beneficial to soak up your own teams aggression not just the enemies

    • @nihili4196
      @nihili4196 7 месяцев назад +310

      That's what every tank main was saying for ages.
      The stress of being responsible for full performance of a role in your team is so much.
      If one DPS or support is lacking, other one can pick up the slack.
      If tank is lacking, you better pray support will go brig and won't flank

    • @Hraesvelg
      @Hraesvelg 7 месяцев назад +38

      By aggression I literally meant your own teams toxicity haha

    • @jafsrob
      @jafsrob 7 месяцев назад +19

      yo someone send this to flats

    • @gerharddamm5933
      @gerharddamm5933 7 месяцев назад +15

      Yeah, but 5v5 is a necessary evil because of queue times. Tank was still miserable enough in OW1 that it was the least played role by far. I still remember doing homework in between matches because I had to wait 20-30 minutes if I wanted to play DPS.

    • @samueldawkins
      @samueldawkins 7 месяцев назад +98

      @@gerharddamm5933 no 5v5 is not necessary and is strangling the game.

  • @luckybynn5788
    @luckybynn5788 7 месяцев назад +1215

    "Prove to tanks how easy their role is"
    I would have laughed but my jaw dropped so hard it nearly unhinged itself.

    • @jocm99
      @jocm99 6 месяцев назад +68

      "tank is the least impactful role"
      literally the fucking opposite, dude is clueless. Gets carried all the way through every time.

    • @agedgouda8809
      @agedgouda8809 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@jocm99wait but if he got carried, and NEEDED the carry, might that be because his role isn’t impactful? I don’t even have an opinion here but if he was impactful wouldn’t he be the one carrying?

    • @jocm99
      @jocm99 6 месяцев назад +36

      @@agedgouda8809 He got carried because he's terrible at tank and his DPS did all the job.
      Tank is the most impactful role. They create space, and ow2 is all about space, not kills. If you win the space, you win the fight, if you lose it, you lose the fight. And that's the tank's job.

    • @agedgouda8809
      @agedgouda8809 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@jocm99 that’s true but you do need ur team to help you hold that space. If you take an area and ur dps don’t follow up, ur not scary enough and if ur supports don’t use resources on you, ur not tanky enough. So they initiate but I feel like everyone else actually makes shit happen. Idk, I could understand an argument either way regarding impactfulness.

    • @Blueskiesnclear
      @Blueskiesnclear 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@jocm99did you watch the video or are you that dumb?

  • @danielmcgrath680
    @danielmcgrath680 7 месяцев назад +835

    "Unranked to GM on my one trick" - Warn

    • @DeathlyQuietVA
      @DeathlyQuietVA 7 месяцев назад +102

      Typical Dps role behavior

    • @TheBiggestMoronYouKnow
      @TheBiggestMoronYouKnow 7 месяцев назад

      “I feel useless and talentless everywhere else so I’ll bully lower ranked players. My penis is totally not gross looking” -the gm streamer with the unranked to gm accounts

    • @bumpkin8009
      @bumpkin8009 7 месяцев назад +29

      Atleast play a different hitscan 💀

    • @TK-ev
      @TK-ev 3 месяца назад

      Scummy behavior

  • @kirbykraftgames
    @kirbykraftgames 7 месяцев назад +721

    The fact that Warn went on a giga-rant about cheating, while doing an Unranked to GM as Ashe, shows why smurfing is an issue

    • @CoachMuffler
      @CoachMuffler 7 месяцев назад +4

      smurfing is not an issue lmao??

    • @lennywhere
      @lennywhere 7 месяцев назад +270

      @@CoachMuffler i think a guy smurfing complaining about a cheater is the spider man pointing meme
      it just shows how miserable everyone in this game is

    • @CoachMuffler
      @CoachMuffler 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@lennywhere except smurfing has little to no impact on your actual rank and gives players who actually make money playing this game to have accounts that don't have 30 min q times so they can practice the game. the -20% you get has no impact on your ability to climb

    • @kujikawathemeekmage3640
      @kujikawathemeekmage3640 7 месяцев назад +135

      @@CoachMuffler is defending millionaires your hobby then?

    • @larry702
      @larry702 7 месяцев назад +38

      @@CoachMuffler It may barely affect long term rank but queuing up a 10 game ranked session and coming away having had any actual impact on only one of those games does effect long term enjoyment of the game. Let alone this missing the entire point that Warn was complaining about cheaters(hacks) while literally according to ingame report system also cheating (boosting/deranking(smurfing)).
      Don't get me wrong either, I quite like Warn, I just hate the justification for people running around in lower ranks and deciding whether they want to throw or sweat and control the lobby based on their whim purely because they're a streamer.

  • @gavo7911
    @gavo7911 6 месяцев назад +212

    Playing Tank in Overwatch 1 was fun, you felt like an anchor that could either protect allies or dish out damage, I loved that fantasy. In Overwatch “2” you essentially have to carry the burden of the whole team on your shoulders, if you fall the entire team crumbles. It’s exhausting to experience.

    • @geoDB.
      @geoDB. 6 месяцев назад +12

      Like playing jungle

    • @cryptosuchusp1517
      @cryptosuchusp1517 4 месяца назад

      And on top of it there’s 2 tanks who are almost entirely melee in Rein and Doom (who I seriously don’t think should be a fuckin tank cuz he’s not a damage sponge) who can either protect or attack

    • @ZerosGuitar
      @ZerosGuitar 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@cryptosuchusp1517 Doom is a huge damage sponge but not in the "rein shield" sense. He can take damage, and enemy cooldowns and pop away. Doom should always focus on having the enemy team focus him while being in line of sight of his own team so they can help him secure kills/ doom helps them secure kills

  • @ilikelettuse
    @ilikelettuse 7 месяцев назад +589

    honestly kinda refreshing to see a support player try tank and really grind the role. its unfortunate you eventually had to stop cause its extremely painful. love the vid and hope you reach that goal one day

    • @theoryez
      @theoryez  7 месяцев назад +128

      i'm actually a dps main! i just played a lot of support for my last video

    • @soulsurvivor8293
      @soulsurvivor8293 7 месяцев назад +50

      ​@@theoryez Yeah, that tracks.
      Damage main getting hyper critical of Tanks while playing Support, only to play Tank and realise you have to be utterly insane & go for broke to get anywhere in that Role.
      Maybe now you know why some Tanks are so far "Out of Position", as you put it. Sometimes making room and playing to stall gets you deep into their lines.
      Just how the Role has to play mate.

    • @AdamSlander888
      @AdamSlander888 7 месяцев назад +21

      ⁠@@soulsurvivor8293there’s a big difference between bad positioning and making space. If your team is with you it can be making space if they aren’t then it’s a bad position

    • @naruto_hinata_xd5795
      @naruto_hinata_xd5795 7 месяцев назад +6

      I play support because i also play tank and know how much difference a good support can make

    • @cooper23231
      @cooper23231 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@AdamSlander888 nah some of you guys choose to fight in bad positions just to fight. So many fights away from point just to get damage up and get no kills .

  • @ayr1190
    @ayr1190 7 месяцев назад +161

    As a Tank player, I can say we go one of two paths eventually:
    1. We stop maining Tank
    or 2. We stop playing competitive

    • @dirusj4006
      @dirusj4006 7 месяцев назад +31

      QP is even worse for tank... Sombra every game and you get counter swapped even more... its nuts.

    • @ayr1190
      @ayr1190 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@dirusj4006 idk about you, but I tend to have better results in qp than comp

    • @OhHeyMarc
      @OhHeyMarc 6 месяцев назад +4

      I jump between those two and "I'm going back to baldur's gate" personally.

    • @rsmith8113
      @rsmith8113 6 месяцев назад +6

      @@dirusj4006every game is Sombra in low elo as well. I hate that character so much

    • @archiveacc3248
      @archiveacc3248 5 месяцев назад

      3) we stopped playing this shitass game. Everything, literally everything has gotten worse. The gameplay, the UI, the performance, the monetization. Just give it up man

  • @LightingbladeShen
    @LightingbladeShen 7 месяцев назад +144

    The thing about being the only tank of the team is you are the make or break. If a sup is playing bad but the other sup is picking up the slack, you don't notice. If one dps is playing meh but the other's popping off, you're not noticing. But when you're underperforming as a tank...everyone notices.
    Plus, everyone and their mother now knows which tank can be countered what way and by which characters. The moment you walk out of spawn and have a mediocre to good play, the enemy team is bound to go for one tankbuster or counterswap. And that just sucks

    • @WockMonkey
      @WockMonkey 3 месяца назад +1

      Its not that everybody knows the counters now its actually more than just that. U gotta think now that theres less people in each game, it makes countering one person inherently more valuable. Losing 1/6 of your team to a counter (17%) is not as harsh as losing 1/5 (20%). Not to mention that tank comps/synergy makes it countering one tank less easy? Easy isnt the right word but like a doom zarya vs a rein monkey, if the monkey switches to horse to counter doom, you still have the defensive utility of zarya to keep your doom up and also theres another person to shoot at, if that makes sense

  • @antarctic8927
    @antarctic8927 7 месяцев назад +772

    I like how Warn immediately blamed anti cheat for the reason people think a player with that aim is in a mid diamond lobby, and not he is supposedly the best Ashe player NA smurfing (against the terms of service)

    • @strangejune
      @strangejune 7 месяцев назад +51

      To be fair, he's totally right. People wouldn't be so concerned about catching cheaters if they weren't so common.

    • @kujikawathemeekmage3640
      @kujikawathemeekmage3640 7 месяцев назад +225

      @@strangejune to be fair, he still shouldn't have been a top500 hitscan in diamond lobbies

    • @xEvilRaptorx
      @xEvilRaptorx 7 месяцев назад +19

      ​@@kujikawathemeekmage3640 thats peak bLizard matchmaking. The dev team that took over OW dont know how to balance a game for different skill levels

    • @Sindoku
      @Sindoku 7 месяцев назад +14

      Nor should Custa a former pro be in that game, granted he’s on his alt role, but still.

    • @Sindoku
      @Sindoku 7 месяцев назад +4

      That said, you should welcome playing against better players. That is how you can improve the fastest.

  • @billykann7725
    @billykann7725 7 месяцев назад +1630

    You know what might assist with all the Tank woes? A SECOND TANK!...

    • @spazrqjay
      @spazrqjay 7 месяцев назад +41

      OMGGGGG

    • @kusolp544
      @kusolp544 7 месяцев назад +48

      Oh yeah, 2 tanks in current state...would be horrible. U would have to nerf the whole ass tank roster in terms of damage hp and quality of life stuff again

    • @dementeddingo321
      @dementeddingo321 7 месяцев назад +237

      ​@@kusolp544 True. But is it worth the role not feeling awful? I mean they already did the hp changes, extra passives and multiple "Reworks". It might just be worth doing.

    • @kusolp544
      @kusolp544 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@dementeddingo321 rn its the best it has been in ow2. Im having quite good games. Switching is part of ow2 now. U switched back then too

    • @kusolp544
      @kusolp544 7 месяцев назад +2

      @sami.mtg. after the changes it got better. Then only reason my tank games are horrible cause my teammates log in the worst supports and dps rightnow. Cant do much as tank if we get a mercy and zen lucio

  • @Goofygoober46
    @Goofygoober46 7 месяцев назад +180

    start: surely it cant be that hard right?.
    end: This is so miserable I don't wanna play this role anymore

  • @whiskyvenom7334
    @whiskyvenom7334 7 месяцев назад +404

    Accusing Warn of cheating is pretty accurate when it's legit against tos and a banable offense.
    He might not be aimbotting but what is the difference when a gm players sits on his main with a pocket mercy

  • @fettbub92
    @fettbub92 7 месяцев назад +169

    Counter picking the enemy tank has been around since the first game, but it became worse when they removed the second tank going into Overwatch 2.
    I loved the role in the first game, but its so lonely, and you get flamed worse than supports used to.

    • @shawncc89
      @shawncc89 7 месяцев назад +2

      Nope. You are 100% wrong

    • @lifted71blazer
      @lifted71blazer 7 месяцев назад +25

      In overwatch 1 there was almost always a right comp to play and anything that wasn't that would most likely lose you the game so counterpicking wasn't really a thing the higher you go. The problem with the current counterpicking is that it is so strong that even top 500 players can't stomp a lobby in like diamond if the enemy picks the right characters so what hope does a player of that rank have when he runs into counters if even t500 can't do anything other than swap themselves

    • @fettbub92
      @fettbub92 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@shawncc89 about what?

    • @fettbub92
      @fettbub92 7 месяцев назад

      @@lifted71blazer true, I didn't say it was meta, I said it existed. It wasnt mandatory to counter pick, now it borderline is.

    • @assimilater-quicktips
      @assimilater-quicktips 7 месяцев назад +20

      @@fettbub92not only was it not mandatory, it was not very effective. Swapping to improve your team synergy ALWAYS was better than swapping to counter an individual player, and if you were going to counter someone the last person you’d want to counter is a tank. Hitscan for pharah, sure. Zarya for dva? You got bigger problems at that point

  • @dark_matter8420
    @dark_matter8420 6 месяцев назад +93

    Now consider if you weren't in a duo most of these games. Solo Q gets a lot harder even on the premise of having one more random to flame you. It's a huge difference.

    • @reganmcmahon3823
      @reganmcmahon3823 5 месяцев назад +24

      yeah ruins the premise to not do it in solo que

    • @alexthelavamonster8747
      @alexthelavamonster8747 2 месяца назад +5

      Thought the exact same thing. The fact he duo’d makes this video worthless lol. Solo Queue THEN make your case. This video is null.

  • @Scotty-Tea
    @Scotty-Tea 7 месяцев назад +116

    You did not just make me do all that with the "Me and the Birds" song for such a short clip LMAOO

  • @Midahwashere
    @Midahwashere 7 месяцев назад +217

    i can tell from the patch and memes that this video took a WHILE man. i hope it blows up

    • @Midahwashere
      @Midahwashere 7 месяцев назад +16

      also as a support main who dabbles in playing tank, after a while it js feels like a chore

    • @theoryez
      @theoryez  7 месяцев назад +16

      tyty 🙏

  • @rhiisnow
    @rhiisnow 7 месяцев назад +588

    i dont blame that pharah for solo ulting you, no one wants a mauga on their game

    • @BananaWasTaken
      @BananaWasTaken 7 месяцев назад +96

      If it works it works, and the pharah did win the game.

    • @cagxplays9602
      @cagxplays9602 7 месяцев назад +85

      solo ults as pharah are generally better too, you dont insta die yourself.

    • @ogsus5773
      @ogsus5773 7 месяцев назад +89

      @@cagxplays9602 solo ulting a tank as pharah is literally best case scenario. if you ult as pharah without another ult, you just die. like this, you turn an underwhelming ult into a 5v4 with no tank. that's a w.

    • @DD-fs7pg
      @DD-fs7pg 7 месяцев назад +19

      If you're not solo ulting as a pharah, you're playing the game wrong. It's like the scrubs that think high noon is supposed to get a kill. if you can get one kill with their ults, you're going well above what you're supposed to do.

    • @cagxplays9602
      @cagxplays9602 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@DD-fs7pg especially a tank

  • @kamruzzamancanon2279
    @kamruzzamancanon2279 7 месяцев назад +110

    it's always nice to see people from different roles trying out tank just to see how MISERABLE this role is. I really fucking wish more people do this. Specially support players. It's literally a different game when ur playing tank.

    • @jonathon947
      @jonathon947 7 месяцев назад +17

      As an ex-support main, and current tank main, supports are the pain. The opening clip is why. You try to take space, your team decides that they will just do something else, then they blame you.

    • @kamruzzamancanon2279
      @kamruzzamancanon2279 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@jonathon947 i'd say the zarya is at fault too cause if the other 4 men arent ready for the fight, zarya was probably early. but yes i do get your point

    • @diablotry5154
      @diablotry5154 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@jonathon947no absorbing the entirety of the rosters cc and getting counterpicked into oblivion is it

    • @lilbigskinnyfatasian
      @lilbigskinnyfatasian 2 месяца назад

      Bro. Tank is EZ when sups are doing their job. Team crumbles if there are no heals. From a sup main who dabbles in tank.

  • @shanonfrancis5071
    @shanonfrancis5071 7 месяцев назад +195

    I wish more support and dps players would play tank atleast just to understand that they're wrong most of the timea when they think tank is easy or fun

    • @mariustan9275
      @mariustan9275 7 месяцев назад +46

      I queue for all roles and in the name of all things good in this world playing tank in OW2 is one of the most stressful things in gaming I have experienced. Actually no, not stressed. Fear. I'm constantly scared of doing anything and of getting flamed because a lot of players expect a tank players to do everything.

    • @cagxplays9602
      @cagxplays9602 7 месяцев назад +28

      @@mariustan9275 "because a lot of players expect a tank players to do everything" based

    • @Rissen_
      @Rissen_ 7 месяцев назад +6

      unless youre in low gold, then pick orisa and turn the brain off and just javelin throw and/or spin to cancel everyones ults or abilities out of existience. its so fun

    • @cagxplays9602
      @cagxplays9602 7 месяцев назад +15

      @@Rissen_ and by fun you mean boring? No way you just said borisa is fun.

    • @Rissen_
      @Rissen_ 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@cagxplays9602 i play stoned and/or with a beer in hand, javelins are satisfying to hit especially when its on a flying ulting sigma. No way could i could play any overwatch sober tbh (im support and tank main only ever touched diamond once in ow1 so not playing high skill games where itd a chore)

  • @SHUTENSEPC
    @SHUTENSEPC 7 месяцев назад +58

    4:31 this is why we need to display actual kills and not eliminations.
    2-8 KDA would actually destroy the ego of players like that.

  • @matthewholden1941
    @matthewholden1941 7 месяцев назад +47

    “Prove to tanks how easy it is” famous last words

  • @Deathandgaming
    @Deathandgaming 7 месяцев назад +121

    at 16:50 you realize your importance in just staying alive as tank and at 29:34 you seem to have forgotten already it as you get confused why you would get solo ult'd so many times. tank is valued at two people in overwatch 2 because of their health pools and ability to take so much damage but they only have the abilities of one. so it's the pressure of two people on one person. solo ulting a tank to kill them in OW2 is always worth it. fight ends when they die even if you trade as a dps. after the last tank buffs for 25% less headshot damage it's near impossible to take out a tank without another tank so blizzard basically buffed your ability to be a punching bag for longer which is why it isn't fun. as a tank you want to make plays and go for picks but that's counter to what will win you the match. yes you need to dive targets or get squishy heroes when you can but more than anything you just need to survive longer and more often than the enemy tank.

    • @ImHaise
      @ImHaise 7 месяцев назад +3

      I'm sayin

    • @Gerwhal
      @Gerwhal 7 месяцев назад +20

      Probably got impatient because playing prophunt as tank gets incredibly boring lmao

    • @cagxplays9602
      @cagxplays9602 7 месяцев назад +3

      I completely agree

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 7 месяцев назад +6

      Yep, this guy has a skill issue and got mad lol

    • @Deathandgaming
      @Deathandgaming 7 месяцев назад +23

      @@ghoulbuster1 I wouldn't say skill issue. more so misdirected anger. the game right now encourages tank abuse.

  • @sagechanged7923
    @sagechanged7923 7 месяцев назад +459

    Muaga is more brainless than a bronze rein in quickplay. I hate that tank with every fiber of my being along with hog and orisa. If only blizzard understood how to balance the tank role man.

    • @nasirthesenatejohnson6935
      @nasirthesenatejohnson6935 7 месяцев назад +58

      I whole heartedly agree. Those 3 tanks are incredibly brain dead yet extremely effective. Game would be better without them

    • @dampayload
      @dampayload 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@nasirthesenatejohnson6935 would it really?

    • @gamgf
      @gamgf 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@nasirthesenatejohnson6935 Why Roadhog?

    • @gamgf
      @gamgf 7 месяцев назад +4

      Why Roadhog, you need to calculate your hooks and even hitting them is hard sometimes. Hooking a flying Pharah or Echo feels so good. My brain starts feeding me these feel-good things.
      I get why people hate Roadhog, but why do you think Roadhog is braindead?

    • @aymanebelmamoune2919
      @aymanebelmamoune2919 7 месяцев назад +41

      @@gamgf 9/10 hog is corner hooking tank dont justify it with pharah

  • @shaunslone2969
    @shaunslone2969 7 месяцев назад +232

    Theres a reason why nobody wants to play the tanks that still capture the original essence of what the role was meant to be:
    Because the original idea of a tank was to enable your team to make plays, and intern your team would enable you to do the same by getting eliminations, putting pressure onto their backline.
    Except now, your DPS dont always need a tank to enable them to get picks, so what ends up happening is the DPS are able to do their job on the flanks, at the expense of the tanks ability to do the same, so you just sit there as tank getting torn into by the enemy team while your DPS dont help and go for greed plays that end up with them feeding.

    • @thebighoney9034
      @thebighoney9034 7 месяцев назад +36

      but the vocal dps, who always flames you no matter your performance, are trash dps who expects you to shield bot them and never peel for the supports.

    • @assimilater-quicktips
      @assimilater-quicktips 7 месяцев назад +8

      In turn, not intern

    • @vivelespatat2670
      @vivelespatat2670 6 месяцев назад +5

      People don't want to play Tank because its miserable to play, as you are 2 OW1 tanks worth of attention packed into a single one.
      People also despise fighting them because they are gigabuffed to compensate for the loss of 1 Tank and are completely impossible to duel.
      Roadhog is notoriously victim of this. He isn't bad, on the contrary, he is fucking regarded. He has so much health and resilience he can win a duel ALONE against a Nanoboosted Reaper with a Mercy damage boosting him.
      Tanks have 39282 bajillion health to facetank 5 PLAYERS WORTH OF DAMAGE, otherwise they would be completely useless. Remove the resistance on Take a Breather and you'll see how fast he gets dumpstered.
      Thanks devs for being incompetent ig

  • @PerfectSwagHD
    @PerfectSwagHD 6 месяцев назад +24

    The problem I have with this is that you cant have the REAL TANK EXPERINCE UNLESS YOU SOLO QUEUE.
    I notice that you were on stack with other ppl while doing this, I personally think tank it aint bad its just miserable because if you do 1 mistake u get punish more heavy (compare to other roles) as you climb through the ranks. My mechanics are not good trust me its just a mental strength to power through.
    This is coming from a top 500 Rein/Winston/Sigma main

  • @GameGuinAzul
    @GameGuinAzul 5 месяцев назад +10

    “I’m gonna prove how easy this role is!”
    Not even 10s later
    “I don’t want to do this no more”

  • @littledolliy
    @littledolliy 7 месяцев назад +39

    i respect any tank player out there lol
    tank is imo the hardest role to play since it carries a lot of responsibility for the team, i have huge respect for anyone who tries to take an attempt into carrying a whole team on their back that’s just crazy i literally could never
    anyway i loved the video u earned a sub + insane editing :)

  • @aaronblack7038
    @aaronblack7038 7 месяцев назад +44

    As a tank who dabbles in playing support, i can definetly tell you tank is the harder, well, the hardest role
    1. You're alone, there is a single tank in a team, meaning unlike a dps or a support who performs bad, i can't just blame my other fellow tank, cause i swear if a moira with 4k damage and 1k heals blames my ana with 7k heals one more f.cking time i'm gonna throw them into a pit of starved rats
    2. Tanks are big, mostly (looking at you JQ) So they will be there as a mannequin in a windowsill of a shop, they're presented forward, infront of everyone, so we're shot constantly, 5 seconds of bad positioning, extending too far, means death, and most tanks don't have quick escape skils similar to a moira fade, or kiriko TP, etc.
    If i had a penny for everytime someone yelled at me for dying (while it's like my 3rd death the entire game) I'd have a fortune to buy 2 more computers

    • @StevenZephyc
      @StevenZephyc 5 месяцев назад +1

      During one game both of our medic healed 3 digits and somehow me, the tank, was the reason our team gets steamrolled. What do you expect me to do? Go and play roadhog?

    • @aaronblack7038
      @aaronblack7038 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@StevenZephyc Yeah you should've just played hog to heal, ur the bad one XD
      Jokes aside, i shit you not, i was playing a really good Junker Queen game, and i healed more than my damn Zenyatta who just spammed left click and had like 2k damage and 2.100 healing, while i had over 4k healing on myself with 9k damage, what more am i supposed to do? xD

  • @Shadowsmoke11
    @Shadowsmoke11 7 месяцев назад +51

    Tank is super impactful. But it all falls apart when your team refuse to play with you, or don’t focus down the enemy tank.

    • @jonathon947
      @jonathon947 7 месяцев назад +8

      Non-tanks flaming tanks because the tank is forward is so painful.

  • @CJ-D-GOAT
    @CJ-D-GOAT 7 месяцев назад +59

    Reinhardt in season 11 is the worst experience i've had in my life. They shoot my shield and abuse me all game and my dps wont kill anyone.

    • @sanban6766
      @sanban6766 7 месяцев назад +4

      Yup experienced that yesterday

    • @kujikawathemeekmage3640
      @kujikawathemeekmage3640 7 месяцев назад +1

      rein is so viable atm tho?

    • @youtubeman998
      @youtubeman998 7 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@kujikawathemeekmage3640It's really not fun anymore. The game is just trying to survive 24/7 and doing nothing for tank

    • @kujikawathemeekmage3640
      @kujikawathemeekmage3640 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@youtubeman998 I mean yeah but tank has been a miserable role since season 2. The only time in ow2 when every tank was playable was season 1 tbh. Nowadays only the top 3-5 tanks are viable and the rest are pushovers. It's sad but being a tank main is basically picking 2-3 heroes per season and hoping the enemies don't counter swap too much

    • @urnansflipflop7894
      @urnansflipflop7894 7 месяцев назад +2

      That's weird rein is pretty decent right now, you're probably not being aggressive enough

  • @awesomeness26108
    @awesomeness26108 7 месяцев назад +14

    as a pharah main, solo ulting the tank with barrage is normal behaviour bc its the easiest way to get value with the ult

  • @keelanruffner5440
    @keelanruffner5440 7 месяцев назад +28

    I have fun playing tank. All my friends think I’m insane.
    My trick? Flank Rein. One trick flank rein. Charge straight through every choke, play back line every fight, and take fights in the enemy spawn.
    Is it optimal? No. Because my team cannot support me and peel for me, every small mistake that I do gets HEAVILY punished. However if I play perfectly and outsmart everyone on the enemy team, I win. It removes the whole “I have no impact” mentality because it is a high risk high reward playstyle. If I go for a play and it works then we win the fight, but if it fails then we lose the fight. It’s high tension as any miscalculation kills me. I go into their back line, take 1v3s, pray, repeat.
    It sounds like feeding, there is a valid reason everyone treats me like I’m insane. However, after one-tricking flank rein for 100 hours I managed to climb from gold to masters. It fucking works, and it’s fucking fun. 11/10 experience on tank.

    • @remisthinking
      @remisthinking 6 месяцев назад

      I'm trying to have fun as Rein pls explain your ways 😭

    • @diablotry5154
      @diablotry5154 6 месяцев назад +7

      The only downside is that it usually comes at the cost of the teams fun especially when you fail

    • @angreyalligator3811
      @angreyalligator3811 Месяц назад

      INSANE Enlightened scientist uses DIMENSIONAL SCIENCE and PRIMAL UTILITY to make tank fun, generates enough paradox to EXPLODE!!! Virtual adepts everywhere are seething at clear technocrat SUPERIORITY!

    • @shawncc89
      @shawncc89 Месяц назад

      @angreyalligator3811 what a spurg

  • @qrkytrtl5770
    @qrkytrtl5770 7 месяцев назад +11

    “i’m gonna get the tank experience” plays mauga

    • @ImTheGibby
      @ImTheGibby 4 месяца назад

      I love when the other team picks Magua and I slap their Magua with Sigma

  • @thatonetrooper7531
    @thatonetrooper7531 7 месяцев назад +39

    Playing hammond almost exclusively has made me mentally ill, the amount of hate from both teams and counter swapping and unwinnable games because no one knows how to play with Hammond is incredible 😐

    • @bruhscoutray
      @bruhscoutray 7 месяцев назад +5

      I love playing ball so much bro but this is so real to get blamed bcuz your team can’t play with you is beyond me I could literally bait every cooldown find 1-2 kills in the teamfight survive it and peel im still the blame lol

    • @thatonetrooper7531
      @thatonetrooper7531 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@bruhscoutray fr, I also hate when they say "we need a shield" 😶 like bro it's gm u can deal with it

    • @bruhscoutray
      @bruhscoutray 7 месяцев назад

      @@thatonetrooper7531 on god ow players act like they need a crutch at all times “whatever is the cheapest route to victory ahh mindset” 💀

    • @Smght1
      @Smght1 7 месяцев назад +2

      i've onetricked doom last patch and if i had a penny for every game where after first fight half of enemy team doesn't swap to hog/orisa/cass/sombra/ana/kiriko i'd have about 6 which isn't a lot

    • @obosranecc2938
      @obosranecc2938 7 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah bro sombra is absolute cancer no matter who is she focusing

  • @TidanOfc
    @TidanOfc 6 месяцев назад +22

    "i took the loss with pride" but complained, explained, and pushed ur defeat onto another player... lmao

  • @Wildkoala1
    @Wildkoala1 7 месяцев назад +72

    NOT SO FUCKING EZ IS IT

    • @DD-fs7pg
      @DD-fs7pg 7 месяцев назад +9

      It's not just that it's not easy, it's not fun most of the time.

    • @someonelikeaworm
      @someonelikeaworm 7 месяцев назад +15

      ​@@DD-fs7pgits neither. Tank is difficult to play because of the sheer amount of thinking you have to do while playing the game. Because of that its also not fun.

    • @calebcarson9294
      @calebcarson9294 4 месяца назад

      @@someonelikeawormmaybe thats why I like tank. I like being the big buff guy and all I do is constantly think on a daily basis. The only time my mind is blank is sometimes during sleep.

  • @theoryez
    @theoryez  7 месяцев назад +395

    Hey guys, sorry for not being able to finish the challenge. I really wanted to push for masters, but I genuinely wasn’t having any fun playing the role, and in the end, Overwatch is still just a video game. And if you’re not having fun playing a video game, you’re kinda missing the point of a video game lol (we’re masochists aren’t we)

I also had the flu while I was making this video, so it might not be up to the standard I set for this channel (i noticed the voiceover kinda sucked).
    I’m still learning this whole youtube thing so definitely let me know if I can improve on anything!


    Anyways, thanks for watching! See you guys again for the DPS climb >:)

    • @dukenegs
      @dukenegs 7 месяцев назад +4

      do yu think the overwatch gods like you

    • @theoryez
      @theoryez  7 месяцев назад +40

      they don't like anyone

    • @eosrose6126
      @eosrose6126 7 месяцев назад +5

      I enjoy your vids, i like that you talk alot, explaining what you think. I can see the work you put into this. Dont worry, i would really prefer you having fun, than you doing smth you dislike. Your channel, your fun ❤.. . Then i ll be happy too😊

    • @dukenegs
      @dukenegs 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@theoryez am i cooked for spending 3 hours watching ur videos 😭

    • @Sizzyl
      @Sizzyl 7 месяцев назад +1

      erm skill issue i'm unsubscribing

  • @PSYDET
    @PSYDET 7 месяцев назад +12

    Took a break from Overwatch, returned to play tank. What I’ve noticed is that If you play tanks like Ball you will get much less anmoying teammates that cry, ofc there is still always someone. Yesterday went 35-2 on Ball when our "best dps" was at 24-8 qnd he still complained about me not brawling the enemy tank when my role is harassing their backline and going for supports / dps out of position.

  • @thatguy5391
    @thatguy5391 7 месяцев назад +54

    3:44
    This right here is why i hate playing tank.
    People say support is always blamed for a loss.
    I have mained tank since season 2, and i have NEVER had more shit talked to me, everyone expects you to be some divine protector who can quite literally do everything.
    Granted yea, sometimes i fucking suck, but when i am playing rein and a lucio keeps diving backline and he says "fank diff" because he keeps dying or i have to go in to save his dumbass ill get blamed.
    If i win the enemy TANK is blamed and not the support.
    Tank is hated by even the other players of your team

    • @luckybynn5788
      @luckybynn5788 7 месяцев назад +18

      It really feels like everyone has somehow collectively agreed that it sucks to play tank because of all your responsibilities, the fact that you get hit with *everything* and that dps and supports are more tanky than tanks and just have a better time in general. But at the same time everyone has also agreed that they hate anyone who plays tank and if their tank makes one mistake then they suck and should never queue for tank again. If I play tank and don't switch to what someone on my team demands- "tank is throwing" If I'm getting my ass beat and my options are to back up or die- I better take my ass beating and die. I step three inches into the enemy front line and get shredded to pieces- "Wtf is our tank doing? gg" But if I'm on support and realize after my first death that I've healed half as much as the other support- silence. If I'm on dps and I've done 3,000 less damage than every other dps and tank in the lobby- nothing. I've had games where I thought I was doing horrible on support or dps and another teammate will go "tank diff" at the end.

    • @onepieceofbbq6357
      @onepieceofbbq6357 7 месяцев назад

      That's just because the support community is the bitchiest community with the most privileged role
      They don't get flamed more, but when they do get flamed they just complain about it more.

    • @firingallcylinders2949
      @firingallcylinders2949 7 месяцев назад +3

      My favorite is when you had a really good tank game, played super well and it's always "tank diff" in team chat.

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 6 месяцев назад +1

      Tank is the hardest role because the balancing is nonexistent, a off tank like Roadhog have to somehow hold the line, kill squishies, flank, protect the back line, etc.. all at the same time, lol that goes for the other off tanks as well, how can you expect Rein, a main tank, to also kill and flank? It's impossible to balance, the tank role plays a separate game from everyone else, always counter-swapping themselves until the match ends. You can try to force a skill diff by playing Doomfist or Hammond, but good luck with that, you will be hit by all the stuns, boops and counters in the world. I am a Doomfist masochist at masters, I know how suffering feels like (or used to know, because I purged this abomination from my PC last month), trying to carry dps diamonds while being countered by braindead Orisa/Mauga, Bastion, Sombra, Ana, Kiriko, etc.. it's a wonderful experience, the Mauga can generate the same damage and sustain of a tryhard Doomfist by just holding two buttons, it's hilarious. You are about to hit a fat punch from a unexpected position, Kiriko is skirmishing along her team, randomly throws her suzu and by sheer luck she saves her team from being smashed. This game rewards low skill way too much, why should you ever play Doom, Hammond, Tracer, Genji, etc if you can stay put in the back line, shooting bullets the size of bricks, Phara and Junkrat spamming explosives that denies the tank passives and building their ultimates super fast, etc.. low skill it is, braindead shooter, anything goes, stomp 3 times, get stomped 3 times (the matchmaking just works)

    • @thatguy5391
      @thatguy5391 Месяц назад

      ​@@luckybynn5788i have a funny story about playing tank, so i was going rein dva, we were having a team fight and a dps, a phara, kept getting destroyed by a hanzo, and they cried about me "chasing mercy" (i did so our junk rat could kill her, he couldnt which is ok) but yk it was a standard fight we lost.
      Well at some point the guy falls off the map (as phara) and ults, and dies. (Wastes it) then he blames me, so i make fun of him and everyone joins in on making fun of him.
      Another time i had a moira call me horrible when the dps couldnt make a single pick, next game we were getting rolled again, he avoided me, and again, i cant do much when the ash i was playing with didnt understand that taking high ground would of been more useful then sitting on the ground, and no one wanted to counter the hog except me (before mauga was released) so no ana, no sym/bastion/reaper, it was all backline, and just me trying to frontline and being focused. Zero dive to help with hog.
      I tried playing poke because thats what i thought we were going with, nope
      Some people need to understand, sometimes, you're just fighting the better team and youre gonna lose. Which is ok. It's ok to lose.

  • @nomad2772
    @nomad2772 7 месяцев назад +10

    Imagine thinking the role with the most pressure is the easiest.

  • @Aldhardt
    @Aldhardt 7 месяцев назад +49

    I dont blame them for solo ultimg you. Theres 4 characters in the game nobody likes,
    Mauga
    Orisa
    Sombra
    Kiri
    Playing those characters makes you enemy number one, they are the anti fun police.

    • @AximVidya
      @AximVidya 7 месяцев назад +3

      true and real. I play a bit of Rein and my shatters are usually pepega af. recently I started shattering kirikos in the head whenever one gets too close and I know she doesn't have her cooldowns

    • @bababooey-gn4gk
      @bababooey-gn4gk 7 месяцев назад +3

      I started playing this game a week ago and got so much hate playing orisa I decided to make her my main. Now im grinding through plat ranks and trash talking tf out of everybody losing to a newbie orisa, im terrible and my teammates tell me to stfu. This is what a single week of playing overwatch has done to me 🤣

    • @Hardfor72hours
      @Hardfor72hours 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@bababooey-gn4gkthat proves she’s broken

    • @bababooey-gn4gk
      @bababooey-gn4gk 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Hardfor72hours why do people trash talk me when im carrying the team. I aint understand this game bruh

    • @someonelikeaworm
      @someonelikeaworm 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@bababooey-gn4gkyoure playing orisa

  • @felixd3419
    @felixd3419 7 месяцев назад +17

    Damn how do you only have 1k subs? Im subbing definitely man, you deserve way more with the dedication and editing

  • @Z0R0zeenee
    @Z0R0zeenee 7 месяцев назад +31

    there is a reason why 2 tanks existed in the past, to share the load

  • @someseeds4024
    @someseeds4024 7 месяцев назад +3

    This is so relatable, i used to main tank but it feels like a coinflip no matter what i do, but the second i play on other roles it feels like i am responsible for all my wins or losses

  • @Lups-fk5qr
    @Lups-fk5qr 7 месяцев назад +12

    Tank feels is so bad that I quit overwatch because of it. Was rein main and everything you just said applied to me
    Sometimes I played like a rock and I still won and sometimes I played like ihclowdy and still lost, got to masters 4, played head2head with a 1000 hour rein and both of us basically didn’t do anything on the match

    • @Hardfor72hours
      @Hardfor72hours 7 месяцев назад

      Not much a rein can do without a second tank

    • @geoDB.
      @geoDB. 6 месяцев назад

      Same

  • @luckybynn5788
    @luckybynn5788 7 месяцев назад +49

    Had a game the other day on dps and after losing the first round my other dps writes in chat "So what's the plan? because we got rolled that round" and my tank replies "idk just go for healers first?" So I shot nothing but healers for like half a round and never saw their health go down beyond where I got it to and I got no kills. Obviously the other guys aren't attacking healers, so I go for the tank while both healers are still alive. Boom, tank goes down. So that big ass health pool doesn't seem to make you any tougher than the supports...

    • @nihili4196
      @nihili4196 7 месяцев назад +19

      600 health means nothing if that's all you have.
      Meanwhile supports may have much less, but as long as they can easily replenish it, summon other players and teleport away, you may as well just stare at them

    • @mackeralsmackers
      @mackeralsmackers 7 месяцев назад +18

      Sometimes I forget that supports are tankier than me, the tank. I'm like woops what am I thinking attacking this guy? I'm throwing lol.

    • @someonelikeaworm
      @someonelikeaworm 7 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@mackeralsmackers if you dont feel tanky try orisa or ram (only play orisa if you feel like being a prick) because fortify reduces all dmg by 50% and ram has 750 health and 300 of it is armor and he can block to reduce all frontal dmg by 75%. And you still wont live, even with an effective health pool of around 3-4k because everyone will be shooting and using every cooldown on you :) because thats tank rn

    • @Ryzard
      @Ryzard 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@nihili4196eyup

    • @rainer9931
      @rainer9931 6 месяцев назад +3

      Support power creep

  • @sojufighter8451
    @sojufighter8451 5 месяцев назад +2

    Youre entirely right. That's why back in the day, there was 2 tanks. It's a lot harder to counter pick a rein with mauga when there's a zar bubbling the rein as he smashes your supp into a wall

  • @mofumofu9648
    @mofumofu9648 7 месяцев назад +92

    pov: youre watching a support player realize theyre playing the easiest role in the game

    • @roytgoiys8173
      @roytgoiys8173 7 месяцев назад +42

      Glad someone else said it, support players thinking their role is hard is a fucking joke lmao

    • @mofumofu9648
      @mofumofu9648 7 месяцев назад +22

      @roytgoiys8173 i mean if you think about it outside of ana there is no support who needs to aim to heal a teammate, and all supports have a way to easily survive a flank in ow2, some supports are even better dps than a lot of dps characters.

    • @jomargamerbrgameplaymunecraftT
      @jomargamerbrgameplaymunecraftT 7 месяцев назад +9

      nah bro, dps rhe easiest if you follow the meta

    • @prismaticpaul
      @prismaticpaul 7 месяцев назад +9

      @@mofumofu9648 hmm, i main ana but i still find bap really hard. His heals are projectiles slightly affected by gravity (makes it hard to heal very mobile heroes so i don't pick bap if we have like pharah or ball for example), but you also gotta constantly flick to the enemies to do damage and flick back to heal teammates. I tend to tunnel vision on either damage or healing at some point. Bap has great tools to survive a 1v1 but they are on a very long cooldown and a lamp used to protect yourself means that for the next half a minute you have no way of saving your team from certain death. Still, i think bap is pretty op in good hands but i'm not near that level yet.

    • @strangejune
      @strangejune 7 месяцев назад +11

      @@mofumofu9648 Is aim the only thing that can make a support hard? I would say that Lucio is a much harder support, and coincidentally also has harder aim requirements. But even someone like Brig arguably has a higher skill ceiling than Ana, and she has almost no aim.

  • @d1o2c3t4o5r
    @d1o2c3t4o5r 7 месяцев назад +9

    Being an effective tank is easy. Being an effective tank, and having fun, is hard.

  • @bunnyramen
    @bunnyramen 7 месяцев назад +6

    as someone whose been a tank main since 2016, playing the role in the current state of ow is straight hell

  • @ganondoofd4281
    @ganondoofd4281 4 месяца назад +2

    I've mained tank/support since day one, and it's good to see someone finally dives into the "why" it's so stressful especially with 5v5. Here's hoping 6v6 comes back sooner than later!

  • @jamescrawford2547
    @jamescrawford2547 7 месяцев назад +4

    You need a pretty strong mental to be able to play tank consistently. Mostly because you’ll get blamed often, regardless of if the game was your fault or not. Usually by support players who play the easiest role by far lol.

  • @skeletor_118
    @skeletor_118 7 месяцев назад +3

    As a masters tank and support, it truly is a miserable role. Everything you said about tank having exceedingly low impact on the outcome of the game is true. On top of that, there's the focus of every other player on the tanks - both gameplay wise and in chat. Tanks get flamed for pushing up and not standing on point, for standing on point and not pushing up, for not being there to protect the dps diving the backline at the speed of sound while trying to protect someone else or just not die themselves. They get flamed for dying when they go from full health to dead in 0.025 nanoseconds because they tried to press W, and they get flamed for hiding around a corner because they don't want to peek the zen and bastion waiting behind a bap window. Everyone thinks tank can kill everything super easily, meanwhile we have to dump half our kits AND our health just for a single elim sometimes, and people STILL want to nerf the role!
    Tanks are the bullet sponges and ult batteries for the enemy team, also the focus of the other tank usually, and if they manage to get a kill or two in the first fight, the entire rest of the game is the other team swapping to counter them. Hell, the tank doesn't even have to be doing anything. I could have a pharmercy destroying the other team and they'll swap to sombra, reaper, and ana to focus me with 1/3 of the pharah's damage.
    When I play with my friends, I basically am signing up to be the tank for 90% of our games because I'm the only one that can handle it for more than 2 games. Honestly, you made it easier on yourself by playing so much Mauga, simply because he's so strong. I have a bit of the opposite going on, where I hate some heroes (namely Mauga and Orisa in their current state) and refuse to play them the majority of the time because I feel scummy playing these heroes that are so much stronger than any other tank while also being as boring and/or simple as they are.

  • @droopsta9594
    @droopsta9594 7 месяцев назад +77

    Hot take: ow was never meant to be 5v5 and 6v6 will always be better and ow was made for 6v6

    • @bonkuwu3584
      @bonkuwu3584 7 месяцев назад +15

      This is not even a hot take lol

    • @biggestenjoyerofthebiggest7796
      @biggestenjoyerofthebiggest7796 7 месяцев назад +13

      not even a hot taake that's just a fact

    • @wuzziecrunch5382
      @wuzziecrunch5382 7 месяцев назад +3

      They should’ve gone to 7v7 to fix dps queue times (3 dps and keep 2 tanks)

    • @gi1kxsy908
      @gi1kxsy908 7 месяцев назад

      @@wuzziecrunch5382 bro r u joking? if i hopped on rn and queued for flex i guarantee i would get put on dps 80% of games. Nobody is even playing dps that much anymore everyone is playing support and has been for months. Why? because its the best role in the game and u get multiple bailouts and insane rewards for no skill. Its not the format that changes queue times its how fun each role is. If blizzard stated they're adding back 6v6 i can assure u tank queue times will be like 20 minutes minimum because it would be fun again

    • @RahStarFari
      @RahStarFari 7 месяцев назад +2

      Make it 3v3

  • @drperky6686
    @drperky6686 7 месяцев назад +38

    I was genuinely surprised when you said that you didn’t have a thousand followers because this video is very well done

  • @joshstaples
    @joshstaples 7 месяцев назад +14

    the pokemon music choices are on point

  • @presidentbruh401
    @presidentbruh401 7 месяцев назад +2

    I hate to agree, because I always try to hold the mindset of what could I do better, how can I improve my gameplay. But, tank just doesn't feel like it has any impact. Yeah, you pretty much need a tank to win a fight, but the tank can't actually win the fight.

  • @JP-wf8te
    @JP-wf8te 6 месяцев назад +7

    Dude is judging the guy for enjoying his own POTG and will go on to tell himself how good he is on multiple occasions

    • @ewybean
      @ewybean 5 месяцев назад +2

      him hyping himself up after jumping a squishy ashe unaware like it was some god play was so funny

  • @lorenzog.7722
    @lorenzog.7722 5 месяцев назад +1

    As a tank player I noticed that there's 2 endings of a match, you win sooo easy or you loose soooo bad, it's crazy

  • @flipmestar
    @flipmestar 7 месяцев назад +6

    Giving up seems about right, there literally isn’t any reason to play tank other than to be a punching bag for both teams

  • @theredguy92
    @theredguy92 7 месяцев назад +17

    Ah OW2 tank so much power to throw so little power to carry.

    • @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong
      @astupidlylongnamethatstoolong 7 месяцев назад +7

      Making tanks ult less impactful really hard gimped them, then removal of 2nd tank for combo ults giga gimped most of their power.

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 6 месяцев назад

      This summarizes Doomfist. The main villain, the strongest character in the setting, he alone can take down a entire team of Overwatch operatives, his punch can leveled up skyscrapers!!! And his fully powered punch in the game does 70 damage

  • @digitalempire2982
    @digitalempire2982 5 месяцев назад +3

    Tank across EVERY game, is guaranteed to catch the most shit.
    Its not about the skill or learning thats the difficult part... Its the mental game and gymnastics you have to pull off to tolerate the amount of shit thats gonna be thrown at you.

  • @crazymonkeys1601
    @crazymonkeys1601 7 месяцев назад +3

    bro said Orisa is boring and then proceeded to play mauga LMAO

  • @skoomaaddict6513
    @skoomaaddict6513 7 месяцев назад +20

    Counter picking (ruining someone else’s fun) should not be a “part of the game” it’s going to lead to tanks being completely removed from the game because no one wants to play them anymore. Sole reason for 5v5 format. I should not be penalized for doing good on Winston

    • @makoto2677
      @makoto2677 7 месяцев назад +10

      Counter picks are a result of Overwatch heroes being incredibly diverse from eachother. Every hero has strengths and weaknesses that can be countered by a different hero. It will always be a part of the game and 5v5 is making this even worse. Counter picking was objectively less miserable in 6v6.

    • @geoDB.
      @geoDB. 6 месяцев назад +1

      Counterpicking is fine. 5s is garbage

    • @andremurilo2003
      @andremurilo2003 Месяц назад

      I can count on my fingers the times i used my ult um games today.
      Literally everything fucking time in queues on d5+ that you play a good fight counterswap.
      today i went from mauga, to orisa, to sigma, to mauga, to queen, to winston, to back to sigma again in a 15mim game, this is fucking exausting.

  • @Yoshi-ux9ch
    @Yoshi-ux9ch 7 месяцев назад +11

    35:20 the problem isn't that the tank is the least impactful role, I would say that tank is the most impactful role but not because it itself provides value but is a target for the abilities of the more powerful roles, that's why when tank dies early the fight is almost always lost. Basically other roles are so powerful that the tank is the only one that can actually survive the bullshit they throw at you while also being the role with the most CC which also means that it's the role that usually gets denied the most by support abilities (suzu, lamp, grip anti etc). Which in the end just means that the tank gameplay loop of a winning encounter is:
    Bait abilities onto yourself -> try to engage -> make space (which in itself isn't rewarding) -> try to kill someone -> that kill gets denied by supports -> enemy tank gets killed by your DPS thanks to your distraction -> DPS floodgate is open -> enemy team dies and your contribution felt miniscule.
    And the gameplay loop of a losing encounter is: you bait cooldowns -> you try to engage -> your team doesn't pressure enemy frontline/backline (depending on what tank you are playing) -> enemies look at you -> you die -> DPS floodgate opens and your team dies.
    The problem with tanks isn't that they are not impactful, the problem is how much pressure is on tank at every given moment which causes every minor missplay to result in death or loss.

  • @juuliawa
    @juuliawa 7 месяцев назад +18

    if you dont have 50k by the end of the year im about to throw hands

  • @haydobuckz
    @haydobuckz 7 месяцев назад +2

    As a tank main, I love being able to get tank every time while completing the "queue for all roles" challenges.

  • @liamglen1359
    @liamglen1359 7 месяцев назад +72

    I HATE YOU FOR PUTTING THAT WARN CLIP IN

    • @theoryez
      @theoryez  7 месяцев назад +48

      idk what you mean, like when i killed him?

  • @luisnotlouis4227
    @luisnotlouis4227 7 месяцев назад +2

    9:08 this is the best content creator ever 💀 I actually cried you my guy earned a sub

  • @dragonhitman1071
    @dragonhitman1071 7 месяцев назад +4

    I loved tanking in overwatch 1. 2 is turning that love into Stockholm syndrome. At this point I'm gonna go sit with the people asking for 6v6 back.

  • @rawhidelamp
    @rawhidelamp 7 месяцев назад +5

    12:49 its hard to play any tank into Ana, the anti-nade is such an annoying ability

  • @vcp2077
    @vcp2077 7 месяцев назад +6

    First 2 losses should have told you the issue with the game. DPS dominate, if your dps is not playing well, then gg

  • @Spectator76
    @Spectator76 7 месяцев назад +2

    The only reason I play tank is living with glory and dying with honor

  • @Kurell171
    @Kurell171 7 месяцев назад +5

    your like that guy that thought he could prove that becoming rich is easy by trying to get from 0 dollars to a million in a month, but miserably failed and only got 30.000 dollars

  • @felipecustodio8564
    @felipecustodio8564 7 месяцев назад +2

    As a former grandmaster tank player that quit the role, you‘be only experienced %40 of the tank misery.
    Those who blame their tanks for losing matches are the ones who would never reached gm in the first place.
    Btw, gm in ow2 is just diamond in ow1, so if you think that you are a good player bc you are gm, just a friendly reminder that you r playing a water down version of the 2016 game of the year.

  • @2Elemnt
    @2Elemnt 4 месяца назад +2

    tank are simply punching bag that takes space, nothing more. I know many tanks have more kills and winrate but a bigger problem that it luck for sweet things. They have too little freedom and too dependence on healers.

  • @phoenixver1332
    @phoenixver1332 7 месяцев назад +2

    As soon as you said how many subs you had i subscribed because bro you deserve way more with this type of editing/engagement 💕

  • @akai_shuichi_x
    @akai_shuichi_x 7 месяцев назад +7

    The editing and music choice was on point 🔥

  • @TheBlazingArachnid
    @TheBlazingArachnid 7 месяцев назад

    Anther great video! Your editing is still amazing and the video is still as well formatted as the last one! Keep up the great videos, dude!

  • @cagxplays9602
    @cagxplays9602 7 месяцев назад +11

    1:45 this is EVERY SINGLE GAME for ball and doom players.

  • @zavhyatta9795
    @zavhyatta9795 7 месяцев назад +1

    The DPS named omnath is probably a magic the gathering player lmao. That’s one of the more powerful creatures ever.

  • @Haunsa1
    @Haunsa1 7 месяцев назад +5

    funny how short a time frame to takes to relies 5v5 makes tanking just bad. Its so much worse if you expericed the combo's, synergy and just fun of 6v6 and tanking in pairs.

  • @twirlycomet389
    @twirlycomet389 5 месяцев назад +1

    Everyone always thinks it’s your fault when the team loses lmao

  • @sarunotaslt
    @sarunotaslt 7 месяцев назад +4

    Another man MINDBROKEN by tank

  • @noahwoolley7498
    @noahwoolley7498 5 месяцев назад +1

    As someone that played unranked and only played take I can confirm it like a coin toss for winning or losing even with play at you best.

  • @noobninja2436
    @noobninja2436 7 месяцев назад +4

    Boosted mauga has been the worst thing in the game

  • @GZF4
    @GZF4 7 месяцев назад +1

    "How i proved tank is the most miserable role"
    You don't have to prove it we all already knew it was

  • @Sizzyl
    @Sizzyl 7 месяцев назад +19

    they just let anyone queue tank these days huh

  • @awildteaaddict
    @awildteaaddict 5 месяцев назад

    Seeing the Rein diff be so successful is the best part of tank. One tricking Rein for all of Season 11 and not only have I climbed from bronze 3 to Plat 2 from just playing him, but also won every mental battle of the Rein mirrors

  • @wing4793
    @wing4793 7 месяцев назад +3

    Just subscribed and followed on your twitch, you're craaazy dude. Just played a game against you and it was the most surreal thing ever lol, I've never ran into a streamer in game before lol. Youre editing is great, you're really funny, and I really liked a lot of the point you made in the video. good shit man, keep it up 👍

    • @theoryez
      @theoryez  7 месяцев назад +3

      brotha ran straight here after playing 😭
      thank you for the kind words tho!

    • @comestible6270
      @comestible6270 7 месяцев назад

      @@theoryez whats the song at 2:14

  • @roboeligt706
    @roboeligt706 6 месяцев назад

    Subscribed instantly for the me and the birds bit. The most creative interaction with a YT video since annotations were removed.

  • @kefbejjj
    @kefbejjj 7 месяцев назад +3

    the only reason why i can tolerate picking tank is so i make sure i dont get bad tanks on my team 😭 but i hate playing that role so much

  • @ResidentRemixer
    @ResidentRemixer 6 месяцев назад

    9:45 As a tank main that's slowly gravitating from maining Rein to maining Doom, I was not expecting him to be likened to my GG main. And now it makes sense why it feels so similar.

  • @Bounccy
    @Bounccy 7 месяцев назад +4

    To know ones pain you must step in their shoes

  • @miorazim7110
    @miorazim7110 7 месяцев назад +1

    I swear to god if I get another dps main complaining that I'm feeding when I'm making space I'm going to loose it.

  • @Lúci-o-ohs
    @Lúci-o-ohs 7 месяцев назад +9

    Now Imagine doing this challenge without abusing mauga and dva