Support feels so rewarding when your team is genuinely trying even if they are not the better players. My comp games I have monkeys running it down and losing their minds, while QP where all the true demons live whenever I play this fucking game lmao
@@snax7760 Yeah honestly I play QP more just so I don't feel so much pressure on myself to perform to peak capacity. I get it, trying hard is fine and its satisfying to win its just I dont want to feel guilty or stressed playing a game.
@@mariustan9275 bro even if you try hard in comp, someone will try harder and then everyone will yell at you for not healing even though THEY KEEP RUSHING WHILE THE TANK IS DEAD I might be projecting a bit
@avadanocum6495 had 20k healing, clutch sleeps, clutch nanos and good damage. I killed squishies and focused the eco that everyone ignored. Still lost.
@@avadanocum6495only if you are better at dpsing than the enemy supports AND actual DPS at no detriment to your supportive ability, meaning you're probably playing an entire division below your skill. Being just a bit better is not enough to carry, because supports are force multipliers. Your job is to enhance the capabilities if your DPS and tank. 1,5*0=0 In other words, supports have the lowest potential to carrying a team of bad players.
so uhh... brig is not supposed to be played as a melee brawler most of the time... if you're in the distance where ram can put his fists in your mouth, your positioning is unique
Is brig a brawl hero or not? Ever since her rework I can not figure out how to play her, Everytime I try brawly I get melted but back line whipshotting is so lame
@@erickmejia1643 she pokes, she's supposed to whipshot to sustain her team and her m1 is for potential flanks, although it is possible to go in close and m1 then bash away as an alternative to whipshot to proc inspire
@erickmejia1643 brig is there mainly to protect the other support and grief enemies trying to get the jump on allies. You play her at whipshot range. Knock anything that tries to get close to you away and then use shield bash to maintain your distance. And when you ult you use bash to stun key enemies so you can confirm kills or stop certain abilities
7:24 its really interesting to hear this perspective since as someone who primarily plays support and rarely plays DPS, the most fun part of mercy for me is being able to so easily zip around and make sure everyone's healthy or popping valk while damage boosting to win a team fight idk its really rewarding to be able to keep someone alive in a fight where they would've lost otherwise, that or help someone bounce back after taking a bunch of damage
i think i've always wanted to be the playmaker, like be the most in control of how the team fight plays out, that's why i lean more towards heroes with more carry potential, i just believe that mercy is the support with the lowest carry potential if that makes sense!
@@theoryez nah i get what u mean !! mercy is definitely designed around being like, THE support(tm) so its really difficult to do anything without having teammate nearby. I think i remember even receiving advice as mercy where if all your allies die in a team fight and you're the last one remaining, its usually better to find a way to die ASAP than to try and run or take on a fight solo since that way you'd be able to push alongside the rest of your team. BTW i really enjoyed your video !! looking forward to see more :-)
That advice applies to everyone actually! That's why sometimes you'll see me just take my hands off the keyboard when a lot of people have died on my team, it's because I'm trying to die faster to respawn faster! Thank you for the support though, hope to have the tank video out soon!
Finally, a Mercy enjoyer who understands me. I dont main Mercy anymore because I got tired of relying on unreliable teammates, but when everyone harps about how they "dont understand how anyone finds Mercy fun," I immediately reply with her mobility. Yeah, having to rely on others all the time gets annoying, but theres a type of satisfaction that comes with GA mobility, and I dont think anyone except maybe Lucio players can understand what I mean
@@db2xxyes, not staggering yourself or teammates is very core to every hero. If you really wanna min max it, arguably you should stop healing if the fight is lost and theres no chance for a kill, just to let everyone die faster. And rezzing in a 2v5 is obv just awful since the person who just got rezzed will have to wait the entire respawn timer again
Mad respect for the outlook on that stupid unranked to gm craze. Only thing I ever learned from those videos is how to abuse the broken ranked system. lol. It'd actually be more interesting to see those streamers do a GM to bronze challenge by playing like the stereo types of the rank theyre in.
streamers who do that kind of stuff should use a bronze account that have been bronze for 2 years at least. They cannot beat the mmr and how the game forces it to be balanced so you win 50% and lose 50%...
play illari or bap and be a dps but with better utility, problem solved. 76%wr diamond5 atm, which is higher than my current dps rank at plat2 despite being a dps main
I already play zen, so that's pretty easy. It's kinda the reason I dropped ana; they can't solo-carry with the new changes(not that they really could before)
@@jermu8706 Easiest role in theory. I instantly die to dive unless I'm significantly better than opponent, can't push away a tank at all, I have to play this waddle-game of off-angling just far enough away from tank w/out instantly dying or getting pushed. It has power, but also the responsibility of doing a lot, if you try to do what I do and not depend on dps players.
I think the take on Mercy, as a Mercy main, reminds me of how different peoples POV’s of a character can be. I find her extremely fun, once you learn her movement. I see that most people who are learning or lean towards DPS or Tank kind of just… stand? There? And get killed of easily because of that. Same thing with other supports. I always find it entertaining when once you play a character, you realize it’s not all you thought. Every role has its trials and tribulations, but not everyone is meant for each role. Great video!!
„WHY NOT HEAL“ or „unwinable with our supports“ or „supp diff“ while dps/tank stands between 5 walls and tries to fight alone against enemy team isolates hinmself and I cant heal them. I love it ❤️😂
Something interesting ive noticed as healer is when people complain about not being healed. It seems common that people fail to use cover, end up in a bad position, and then expect to be healed into a good position. So I wonder sometimes, do you heal them to keep them alive and reinforce their bad positioning, or focus killing the enemy and force your team to position better with less heals? Noticed it some in this video; also curious if anyone else has experienced this
Personally I let them take bad positioning IF healing them in said bad positioning is risky to me. I'm not dying to save an ass DPS who will die anyway
Support being Server Admins were a few seasons ago. Earth belongs to DPS now. Now support has to baby sit healbot and get blamed for everything when Tank leaves the voice channel.
this video actually so fire. u got a new sub with this one, this video was really well put together. 43:44 some pointers for tank is to wait for your team, know when to initiate dives and focus supports. initate a dive when the other team has used a lot of cooldowns and/or when your team uses an ulti. prioritize cover and taking the least amount of damage possible because the 20% dps passive will eat you alive. I think thats it though, great content!
One thing I've learned from support that is absolutely certain, is the fact that no matter how much you pop off as Moira, people are still gonna be mad at you 😅 The best perk you can have as a support main, has got to be some sort of gas-lightning immunity, aka confidence.
all roles are easy the difference is whether or not you can use your brain. i play supp/dps and placed tank masters 4 on a fresh account for fun after just babysitting my teams. "go here, use this ult as we engage, if we lose one, pop this ult, otherwise hold. no ults here no ults here. dry engage here to bait ults, save all of ours for the end of the clock. lets back up here back up back up behind your tank, okay walk back in focus mercy here mercy mercy mercy." only on dps should you not be making calls like that and instead should be perma taking safe off angles with priority on surviving and treating engagements like chess, and on support the biggest thing you can learn to do is monitor what your dps is actively damaging and lay supportive damage on them in between support shots and focus them instead of your own targets for your own kills.
Every role is easy when you know how to play it and your character. Support just adds the factor of keeping your team alive while trying to dps/stay alive. What I've noticed in matches ( just getting back into it so I don't have a ton of matches under my belt yet) is that people don't seem to know when to flank sometimes so I find myself finding ways to do it no matter what role I am ( usually support but I do get a tank game every once in awhile queuing all roles in open que). Sometimes you've got to get AGGRESIVE!! Or hit them from behind
Lucio is a great hero for this reason: You know if you're doing well it's because you're a good player... 'cuz he's not a very good hero. I'd argue his value goes up in scrim/teamplay but he's tough to do in solo q. Also you've surely seen awkward and ML7 play Ana. You have to be actively glocking kids if you want to win.
As someone who often plays all three roles however is dps main here is what I come by. Tank: puppet to supports a lot. requires highest degree of game sens & strong ults. Highest degree of control in a comp orientated setting Dps: requires highest degree of mechanics and good game sens (mix) but least control. However most oppressive when enabled. Bad ults. Require other ults to combo to be good. Highest degree of control in the game when enabled Support: Requires high degree of game sens and overall most control in the game. Also requires highest degree of discipline. best ults. As a support player if you shot call and make the right swaps you’ll win more often then not. I’ve hit gm in all three roles peaked gm1 on dps
Support is easy when your team have at least half of a brain and can back out of a fight when they realize "Hey, I'm outnumbered and taking too much damage." I'm mostly a flex so as a tank I can realize this sometimes and as a support, the tank can't always move towards you, you gotta get to them sometimes but hey we're human, no one is perfect so a mistake is bound to happen.
12:59 I don’t know the specifics of that game, but I do know that as a Bap main myself you could have done more damage. If you position in a way as Bap where you can see both the enemy team and your tank, you can shoot-heal-shoot-heal, and not lose any heal or DPS output. Most of the games I win on Bap my healing and damage stats are almost the same, (+/-1000). If you can weave damage in you can confirm a lot of the kills your hog couldn’t get on his own. But like I said there is a lot of info missing so that might not have been the problem, I just wanted to point out a common problem I see with new Bap players.
yeah, i realized that you could hold down both buttons and i would shoot basically off cd, but i found it hard to either flick whenever they swapped, or position myself between my tank and the enemy, so i often just picked an off angle to play instead
@@theoryez IMO The hardest part of Bap is optimizing both his heals and DPS. Positioning in such a way that you can do both is essential to effectively playing Bap. It’s good to remember that you can simultaneously off angle, heal, and DPS if the conditions are right. Whether you are at a horizontal off angle at another piece of cover, vertical with high ground, or even just super jumping to shoot over a shield. Off angles and the shoot-heal or shoot-shoot-heal combos are not always mutually exclusive. As for the flicking between heals and dps, it takes some time to learn. Eventually it just becomes a rhythm and feels as natural as just shooting. I have like 200 hours on just Bap though, but it doesn’t take that long to get the patterns down.
Illari is my new support main. Getting to high teirs in ranked is so easy and the healing is so beefy. And the damage is pretty good too. And her alt...god her alt is the BEST ive ever used
i played support before, and most mercy's never hit and most of them basically only get lucky when they are not hit, when the team they have do sometimes have egos, lifeweaver is not easy to understand but when you understand some supports, lifeweaver will be easier to learn, but however season10 was lifeweavers worst luck pretty much, but however that's if you choose healbot mode, if you choose to defend yourself or moira version of lifewever it will be easier to help teh team, heal the team and defend yourself
and i do have tips for you when you play ana, most ana's focus on hitting, and if your other support is hitting just focus on healing, pretend your allies are your targets and pretend your widow
As a genji main I've switched more over to playing mercy a lot bc her movement is so fun and she has lots of reach with her beam. You have to be very cunning and take advantage of her beam staying connected longer than her los with teammates. Her pistol is underrated and I love topping tps when they think a mercy is defenseless. A good portion average players will flame you for maining damage boost, but it still carries. The good ones will want to kiss you with the amount of support you can output as a good mercy. I play on xbox, so I see mercy often but very rarely a good one. PS I don't have to get counterpicked by the whole team when I play mercy instead of genji 😅
As a zen main, lucio is one of those characters who i need to have in my bag of characters i can play at the most basic level but will never put in the time to get actually good on. Lucio existing makes a comp sometimes, and no other character fills his niche, so hes extremely valuable to know the basics on, but beyond that his skill ceiling is so high and i just dont enjoy him enough to ever put real time into him. Also, brig is the counterswap queen.
Brig is a defensive hero (NOT passive!), and her role is to deny space. You can protect your backline, but if your support is like Moira or Kiri, you ‘can’ brawl, or take an off-angle with your DPS. It depends heavily on the enemy team.
Playing as a tank is very exhausting and there is a lot of pressure involved, I went to play as a tank and a match lasted 17 minutes, I have never experienced that in my life, It turned into a huge test of endurance. I could see that the enemy tank was also exhausted. I just wanted that moment to end quickly. Most of the time it was the objective being contested 99 percent both sides
I feel that the main reason positioning is more difficult on Support is that you're easier to punish than other roles, DPS caught out of position is still a DPS. Players tend to forget that Support is more vulnerable and assume they're the better player cause they win fights even in bad positions.
37:33 actually had a rein in a game last night who went into their back line 5 times in a row. I finally had to ask them how many times will they do that before they learn.
In bronze-plat playing with tank as Brig is still viable playstyle. But when you go above that, it's better idea to almost always be "The Protector" of your fellow Ana, Bap etc. because flankers are so prominent at this game.
i went from plat 5 to plat 1 without losing on support then lost my diamond game to a blatant smurf (they had no skins had never played a previous season and was walking through my team like butter), then lost again and again till i deranked to plat 2 and thats where ive been stuck for 2 days
yeah support is the easiest roll until you’re trying to rank up to get out of plat and your dps are god awful and your tank feeds but you have a 60-70% scoped accuracy on ana and average 20k+ heals
Support can be so annoying when some people on ur team are absolute dog BUT support is so rewarding when everything goes good and ur team does well even if you don’t win for me it feels rewarding when u guys actually do good
I love this game so much that when I happened to get lucky enough to get a 7 game win streak that right after, I lost 17 games in a row. And was left in a lower rank than I began in :D
Dude i figured out how to have the most fun with support, and just overwatch in general. I started like a year ago and ever since its been amazing, the best part is its only 3 easy steps. So step one is after ur next comp game, exit out the game (im on console pc may have to adjust a little). Step two go to where you have the game application for pc or the my games and apps section on xbox. And step three, delete the game!!!
As a dps main forced to be a support main, it be like that. I hate playing mercy and life weaver because you have to rely on other's so much. And played solo queue feels impossible sometimes. So I gravitate towards the dps supports.
u saying this like illari and kiriko players can realistically just hit headshots chained at the same pace a blading genji swings while having a gap closer than resets on elimination
@@jermu8706 it doesn't matter that if they can hit consistent headshots. A support shouldn't be doing more DMG than a DPS ult. Should also remind you of support abilities?
I will say with Illari she gets really old after a while. I used to main her for a good amount of time (I have about 80 hours on her) and around the 50 hour mark I realized how stale her kit is. You pretty much just go on an off angle, set up pylon, shoot, don’t move. It’s the same loop every time because of how her kit is designed. I now just play DPS now because it’s the same experience but with much more impactful damage and my team doesn’t hate me.
That's honestly very similar to what i experienced later on during the challenge. i felt like illari was just overshadowed by bap in nearly every aspect, which is why i leaned more towards playing bap later on. Around the same damage output, better healing output, better utility, and ult is situational, but honestly I prefer window. Not only does bap feel more interactive to play, his kit is just straight up stronger...
bro ur super funny, entertaining, and your editing is amazing. love your content and hope you can continue growing even more soon. u just got a new subscriber
the fact that americans put ketchup w their fries will always baffle me as a dutch person. dutch or belgian mayonaise is the true path for fry condiments
I'm surprised you don't have more subscribers and views. This is a great video! It's well editted and formatted, and more people should recognize your channel.
It's not her healing output it's her mobility and hoe simple she is she can chase a low HP target for a kill she can peel for her team has good healing numbers it's cause there's not many situations where she's bad outside playing with flyers
Support isn’t meant to be played who you wanna pick support is there to best support there team that means picking the best support for the comp. Support is the biggest factor in having a good team comp. Supports will be the first to tell you to switch while not switching themself because they got “good healing”.
great video but fyi dont frontline on brig and play with your tank, its much better to hold down the backline on brig and protect your second support if their playing ana or smth
ur jokes arent funny just weird half the time
pin of shame 💀
Shame
honestly hard to disagree but nothing wrong with a little bit of freak here and there
Found zootedupdog
quit hating
All roles are easy, all you have to do is blame the other roles. Simple 😊
Period
I love when my tank complains that both supports aren’t pocketing him or rushing into the entire team without thinking then blaming everyone else
I love this comment 😂😂
thats the dps mentality glad to know im doing it right
if i lose a match, its not my fault, its the other team fault for not letting me win 😭👍
"as a dps player i never understood my positioning until now"
All supports : we know
I'm dead
Support feels so rewarding when your team is genuinely trying even if they are not the better players. My comp games I have monkeys running it down and losing their minds, while QP where all the true demons live whenever I play this fucking game lmao
i am one of the qp demons 😈
This and the toxic players are why I don’t play comp, like tbh the amount of dependence on your team is insane
@@snax7760 Yeah honestly I play QP more just so I don't feel so much pressure on myself to perform to peak capacity. I get it, trying hard is fine and its satisfying to win its just I dont want to feel guilty or stressed playing a game.
@@mariustan9275 bro even if you try hard in comp, someone will try harder and then everyone will yell at you for not healing even though THEY KEEP RUSHING WHILE THE TANK IS DEAD
I might be projecting a bit
“I proved support is easy” proceeds to have mental breakdown on why support is not so easy
Could you put a timestamp please?
@@mariustan9275it’s the title of the video💀
@@PrinceFlames I'll go check again
@@mariustan927525:50
It is.
" i proved supps are easy "
dude had a whole ass mental breakdown with 2 MONTHS of rest from playing supps 😭😭😭
because you either get carried or you don’t, the only way to have actual impact as a support is to go dps moira
@@pole8740or just have a team that can aim and go mercy. It's impossible to die that way
@@pole8740 do people gen believe this bs?
"Nothing about that game was my fault and i still lose" welcome to the world of supports
welcome to team based game, support have bap, kiri and ana who can carry almost any game
@avadanocum6495 had 20k healing, clutch sleeps, clutch nanos and good damage. I killed squishies and focused the eco that everyone ignored. Still lost.
@@Army-cs9dz Did you help with the objective? Then that's why you lost
sometimes it really feels like the best player in the world wouldve still lost and thats really frustrating
@@avadanocum6495only if you are better at dpsing than the enemy supports AND actual DPS at no detriment to your supportive ability, meaning you're probably playing an entire division below your skill.
Being just a bit better is not enough to carry, because supports are force multipliers. Your job is to enhance the capabilities if your DPS and tank. 1,5*0=0
In other words, supports have the lowest potential to carrying a team of bad players.
Lucio mafia, get him
i came around to him later 😿
we’re breaking some bones 😈
Amd ankles @@silly_goofs
I want his veins 😈
Dw frogger will get him.
so uhh... brig is not supposed to be played as a melee brawler most of the time... if you're in the distance where ram can put his fists in your mouth, your positioning is unique
Unique 😭😭😭😭
I cried when they bashing into the ulting ram, instead of whip then bash away
Is brig a brawl hero or not? Ever since her rework I can not figure out how to play her, Everytime I try brawly I get melted but back line whipshotting is so lame
@@erickmejia1643 she pokes, she's supposed to whipshot to sustain her team and her m1 is for potential flanks, although it is possible to go in close and m1 then bash away as an alternative to whipshot to proc inspire
@erickmejia1643 brig is there mainly to protect the other support and grief enemies trying to get the jump on allies. You play her at whipshot range. Knock anything that tries to get close to you away and then use shield bash to maintain your distance. And when you ult you use bash to stun key enemies so you can confirm kills or stop certain abilities
7:24 its really interesting to hear this perspective since as someone who primarily plays support and rarely plays DPS, the most fun part of mercy for me is being able to so easily zip around and make sure everyone's healthy or popping valk while damage boosting to win a team fight
idk its really rewarding to be able to keep someone alive in a fight where they would've lost otherwise, that or help someone bounce back after taking a bunch of damage
i think i've always wanted to be the playmaker, like be the most in control of how the team fight plays out, that's why i lean more towards heroes with more carry potential, i just believe that mercy is the support with the lowest carry potential if that makes sense!
@@theoryez nah i get what u mean !! mercy is definitely designed around being like, THE support(tm) so its really difficult to do anything without having teammate nearby. I think i remember even receiving advice as mercy where if all your allies die in a team fight and you're the last one remaining, its usually better to find a way to die ASAP than to try and run or take on a fight solo since that way you'd be able to push alongside the rest of your team.
BTW i really enjoyed your video !! looking forward to see more :-)
That advice applies to everyone actually! That's why sometimes you'll see me just take my hands off the keyboard when a lot of people have died on my team, it's because I'm trying to die faster to respawn faster!
Thank you for the support though, hope to have the tank video out soon!
Finally, a Mercy enjoyer who understands me. I dont main Mercy anymore because I got tired of relying on unreliable teammates, but when everyone harps about how they "dont understand how anyone finds Mercy fun," I immediately reply with her mobility. Yeah, having to rely on others all the time gets annoying, but theres a type of satisfaction that comes with GA mobility, and I dont think anyone except maybe Lucio players can understand what I mean
@@db2xxyes, not staggering yourself or teammates is very core to every hero. If you really wanna min max it, arguably you should stop healing if the fight is lost and theres no chance for a kill, just to let everyone die faster. And rezzing in a 2v5 is obv just awful since the person who just got rezzed will have to wait the entire respawn timer again
Mad respect for the outlook on that stupid unranked to gm craze. Only thing I ever learned from those videos is how to abuse the broken ranked system. lol. It'd actually be more interesting to see those streamers do a GM to bronze challenge by playing like the stereo types of the rank theyre in.
streamers who do that kind of stuff should use a bronze account that have been bronze for 2 years at least. They cannot beat the mmr and how the game forces it to be balanced so you win 50% and lose 50%...
Some of them are useful like a10's because he actually explains things during the game.
@@sentokigames151 doing a true bronze to gm like that instead of a fresh account would take monthsss. it would be far more entertaining too
@@sentokigames151 they can use my account then 😂😂
@@sentokigames151 I'm sorry to break it to you but even a diamond player that actually plays like a diamond would rank up from bronze very quickly.
you're also playing a majority of these games duoed with someone. Imagine the solo support experience where you roll the dice on 2 braindead dps.
🥲 know all about it
play illari or bap and be a dps but with better utility, problem solved. 76%wr diamond5 atm, which is higher than my current dps rank at plat2 despite being a dps main
I already play zen, so that's pretty easy. It's kinda the reason I dropped ana; they can't solo-carry with the new changes(not that they really could before)
@@tumultoustortellini thats the price you pay when you play the easiest role, just is what it is. want more carry potential? play dps or tank.
@@jermu8706 Easiest role in theory. I instantly die to dive unless I'm significantly better than opponent, can't push away a tank at all, I have to play this waddle-game of off-angling just far enough away from tank w/out instantly dying or getting pushed. It has power, but also the responsibility of doing a lot, if you try to do what I do and not depend on dps players.
36:53 I think bro lost some sanity that game 😭
you mean it gets worse from 27:30?
I think the take on Mercy, as a Mercy main, reminds me of how different peoples POV’s of a character can be. I find her extremely fun, once you learn her movement. I see that most people who are learning or lean towards DPS or Tank kind of just… stand? There? And get killed of easily because of that. Same thing with other supports. I always find it entertaining when once you play a character, you realize it’s not all you thought. Every role has its trials and tribulations, but not everyone is meant for each role. Great video!!
I definitely prefer playmaking rather than enabling, but to each their own! Thanks for the support though? (haha get it?)
mercy is shit tho
@@gamerman6138 hog main talking 💀💀
@@gamerman6138yes we know mercy's shit, like LW and Reaper/Ball, but we didn't ask lol
even with the movement her skillfloor is incredibly low. dedicating a lot of time to her is pointless.
I have a rule where if I lose 3 in a row I get off or take a break
that's good. I even take a short break after each game, no matter the outcome
what is the highest rank you've got, this sounds like a nice strat
@@ripalphax1104 I peaked masters 4
That's honestly really good advice
„WHY NOT HEAL“ or „unwinable with our supports“ or „supp diff“ while dps/tank stands between 5 walls and tries to fight alone against enemy team isolates hinmself and I cant heal them.
I love it ❤️😂
Something interesting ive noticed as healer is when people complain about not being healed. It seems common that people fail to use cover, end up in a bad position, and then expect to be healed into a good position. So I wonder sometimes, do you heal them to keep them alive and reinforce their bad positioning, or focus killing the enemy and force your team to position better with less heals? Noticed it some in this video; also curious if anyone else has experienced this
Personally I let them take bad positioning IF healing them in said bad positioning is risky to me. I'm not dying to save an ass DPS who will die anyway
Tip for brig: you want to play her as an anti dive hero to protect your other healer.
Or dps she's basically there to help punish dives
this makes me wonder how I keep getting healbotting kirikos in my master game
haven’t lost a single time to them or won with them
7:23 i regret reading that.
Lmfao
i also regretted reading it initially 2 years ago
@@theoryez glad we can relate!
I didn't expect it to get this bad 💀
Absolutely LOVE the sun and moon soundtrack representation, actual bangers 🔥
lillie's theme is beautiful 😮💨
@@theoryezFrr 35:12 hit hard ngl
Support being Server Admins were a few seasons ago. Earth belongs to DPS now.
Now support has to baby sit healbot and get blamed for everything when Tank leaves the voice channel.
this video actually so fire. u got a new sub with this one, this video was really well put together.
43:44 some pointers for tank is to wait for your team, know when to initiate dives and focus supports. initate a dive when the other team has used a lot of cooldowns and/or when your team uses an ulti. prioritize cover and taking the least amount of damage possible because the 20% dps passive will eat you alive. I think thats it though, great content!
thanks for the tips! hope to implement them in my latest video!
@@theoryez :D
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watch him pop off
there’s no way he stays undiscovered for long with content like this
He’s popping off
Facts, just discovered him yesterday and he looks really nice to watch
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One thing I've learned from support that is absolutely certain, is the fact that no matter how much you pop off as Moira, people are still gonna be mad at you 😅
The best perk you can have as a support main, has got to be some sort of gas-lightning immunity, aka confidence.
this is one of the most enjoyable overwatch videos i've ever watched. definitely gave me motivation to rank up too
"I don't give up that easy, that's why I'm posting this video"
Say the same about your tank video. Lollll
"I think I position myself more aggressive on Ana than Brig sometimes." This just tells you that he doesn't know how to play Brig at all
yet he climbed past ur peak
No, he didn't. My peak is gm5 his was really low masters
@@claspingmeteor993 sure, battlenet tag?
@jermu8706 lmao you can't even see it cus I Tilted down to m2 and it just says top 500
nah bro it will show ur peak seperately
THE DOUBLE LUCIO KILL TRANSITION WAS CRAZY
I DIDNT EVEN REALISE THE SPLIT
Using Bap's window selfishly is usually better than using it for your team
all roles are easy the difference is whether or not you can use your brain. i play supp/dps and placed tank masters 4 on a fresh account for fun after just babysitting my teams. "go here, use this ult as we engage, if we lose one, pop this ult, otherwise hold. no ults here no ults here. dry engage here to bait ults, save all of ours for the end of the clock. lets back up here back up back up behind your tank, okay walk back in focus mercy here mercy mercy mercy."
only on dps should you not be making calls like that and instead should be perma taking safe off angles with priority on surviving and treating engagements like chess, and on support the biggest thing you can learn to do is monitor what your dps is actively damaging and lay supportive damage on them in between support shots and focus them instead of your own targets for your own kills.
Loved your video, very good storytelling and editing. Your dedication to improving is out of this world. Would love to see your channel grow.
Every role is easy when you know how to play it and your character. Support just adds the factor of keeping your team alive while trying to dps/stay alive. What I've noticed in matches ( just getting back into it so I don't have a ton of matches under my belt yet) is that people don't seem to know when to flank sometimes so I find myself finding ways to do it no matter what role I am ( usually support but I do get a tank game every once in awhile queuing all roles in open que). Sometimes you've got to get AGGRESIVE!! Or hit them from behind
Lucio is a great hero for this reason: You know if you're doing well it's because you're a good player... 'cuz he's not a very good hero. I'd argue his value goes up in scrim/teamplay but he's tough to do in solo q. Also you've surely seen awkward and ML7 play Ana. You have to be actively glocking kids if you want to win.
As someone who often plays all three roles however is dps main here is what I come by.
Tank: puppet to supports a lot. requires highest degree of game sens & strong ults. Highest degree of control in a comp orientated setting
Dps: requires highest degree of mechanics and good game sens (mix) but least control. However most oppressive when enabled. Bad ults. Require other ults to combo to be good. Highest degree of control in the game when enabled
Support: Requires high degree of game sens and overall most control in the game. Also requires highest degree of discipline. best ults. As a support player if you shot call and make the right swaps you’ll win more often then not.
I’ve hit gm in all three roles peaked gm1 on dps
Support is easy when your team have at least half of a brain and can back out of a fight when they realize "Hey, I'm outnumbered and taking too much damage."
I'm mostly a flex so as a tank I can realize this sometimes and as a support, the tank can't always move towards you, you gotta get to them sometimes but hey we're human, no one is perfect so a mistake is bound to happen.
12:59 I don’t know the specifics of that game, but I do know that as a Bap main myself you could have done more damage. If you position in a way as Bap where you can see both the enemy team and your tank, you can shoot-heal-shoot-heal, and not lose any heal or DPS output. Most of the games I win on Bap my healing and damage stats are almost the same, (+/-1000). If you can weave damage in you can confirm a lot of the kills your hog couldn’t get on his own. But like I said there is a lot of info missing so that might not have been the problem, I just wanted to point out a common problem I see with new Bap players.
yeah, i realized that you could hold down both buttons and i would shoot basically off cd, but i found it hard to either flick whenever they swapped, or position myself between my tank and the enemy, so i often just picked an off angle to play instead
@@theoryez IMO The hardest part of Bap is optimizing both his heals and DPS. Positioning in such a way that you can do both is essential to effectively playing Bap. It’s good to remember that you can simultaneously off angle, heal, and DPS if the conditions are right. Whether you are at a horizontal off angle at another piece of cover, vertical with high ground, or even just super jumping to shoot over a shield. Off angles and the shoot-heal or shoot-shoot-heal combos are not always mutually exclusive.
As for the flicking between heals and dps, it takes some time to learn. Eventually it just becomes a rhythm and feels as natural as just shooting. I have like 200 hours on just Bap though, but it doesn’t take that long to get the patterns down.
With all that being said, I still need to finish watching your awesome video. 🤘
I love the editing style of this video I need to see more (this is a threat)
Your DPS ego shines right through the support heroes you like playing the most hahah
you are the most underrated youtuber I've seen YEARS. my abs hurt from laughing XD keep up the great content!
Such a cool, nice edited video from a small creator. Thank you, algorithm. Good learning process too!
Illari is my new support main. Getting to high teirs in ranked is so easy and the healing is so beefy. And the damage is pretty good too. And her alt...god her alt is the BEST ive ever used
i played support before, and most mercy's never hit and most of them basically only get lucky when they are not hit, when the team they have do sometimes have egos, lifeweaver is not easy to understand but when you understand some supports, lifeweaver will be easier to learn, but however season10 was lifeweavers worst luck pretty much, but however that's if you choose healbot mode, if you choose to defend yourself or moira version of lifewever it will be easier to help teh team, heal the team and defend yourself
but also the higher you go, the more you will stick with heros on supports that are not mercy
and i do have tips for you when you play ana, most ana's focus on hitting, and if your other support is hitting just focus on healing, pretend your allies are your targets and pretend your widow
As a genji main I've switched more over to playing mercy a lot bc her movement is so fun and she has lots of reach with her beam. You have to be very cunning and take advantage of her beam staying connected longer than her los with teammates. Her pistol is underrated and I love topping tps when they think a mercy is defenseless. A good portion average players will flame you for maining damage boost, but it still carries. The good ones will want to kiss you with the amount of support you can output as a good mercy. I play on xbox, so I see mercy often but very rarely a good one. PS I don't have to get counterpicked by the whole team when I play mercy instead of genji 😅
As a zen main, lucio is one of those characters who i need to have in my bag of characters i can play at the most basic level but will never put in the time to get actually good on. Lucio existing makes a comp sometimes, and no other character fills his niche, so hes extremely valuable to know the basics on, but beyond that his skill ceiling is so high and i just dont enjoy him enough to ever put real time into him.
Also, brig is the counterswap queen.
So his favorite healers are the dps healers that he doesnt need to focus on the healing stand point
ngl, this vid made me want to try the other supports besides mercy and kiri to see how far i can actually get
really well edited and put together my bro
I liked seeing u get hyped on lucio at like 35:22 doing the little movement very good video dude
Brig is a defensive hero (NOT passive!), and her role is to deny space. You can protect your backline, but if your support is like Moira or Kiri, you ‘can’ brawl, or take an off-angle with your DPS. It depends heavily on the enemy team.
Playing as a tank is very exhausting and there is a lot of pressure involved, I went to play as a tank and a match lasted 17 minutes, I have never experienced that in my life, It turned into a huge test of endurance. I could see that the enemy tank was also exhausted. I just wanted that moment to end quickly. Most of the time it was the objective being contested 99 percent both sides
7:24 the best mercy describtion ive ever seen
Great editing bro
good editing, actual good player who can comprehend their mistakes, and a voice i can fall asleep to? new sub!
I feel that the main reason positioning is more difficult on Support is that you're easier to punish than other roles, DPS caught out of position is still a DPS.
Players tend to forget that Support is more vulnerable and assume they're the better player cause they win fights even in bad positions.
what makes Mercy so fun is that she's like a bird, you fly everywhere from target to target. Think like a bird, it's funny
37:33 actually had a rein in a game last night who went into their back line 5 times in a row. I finally had to ask them how many times will they do that before they learn.
In bronze-plat playing with tank as Brig is still viable playstyle. But when you go above that, it's better idea to almost always be "The Protector" of your fellow Ana, Bap etc. because flankers are so prominent at this game.
i went from plat 5 to plat 1 without losing on support then lost my diamond game to a blatant smurf (they had no skins had never played a previous season and was walking through my team like butter), then lost again and again till i deranked to plat 2 and thats where ive been stuck for 2 days
27:16 This is how i feel playing mercy when my dps finally hit one single shot after blue bleaming 90% of the game. sooooo satisfying
yeah support is the easiest roll until you’re trying to rank up to get out of plat and your dps are god awful and your tank feeds but you have a 60-70% scoped accuracy on ana and average 20k+ heals
Support can be so annoying when some people on ur team are absolute dog BUT support is so rewarding when everything goes good and ur team does well even if you don’t win for me it feels rewarding when u guys actually do good
the 4 loss streak into enemy ragequit on a winning game is the cause of 5 separate 4 week breaks from this game for me
8:00
"shit fry"
: Shows the best fries on earth
Yea soggy fries arent even super bad, maybe because im not a picky eater but oh well
I love this game so much that when I happened to get lucky enough to get a 7 game win streak that right after, I lost 17 games in a row. And was left in a lower rank than I began in :D
exactly why i stopped playing support for a while and had fun on tracer, way fun and don’t have to rely too much on team. -ex lucio, mercy main
love the use of the oras surf theme amazing song
17:06 sick LGG2 burn lmao 😂
Dude i figured out how to have the most fun with support, and just overwatch in general. I started like a year ago and ever since its been amazing, the best part is its only 3 easy steps. So step one is after ur next comp game, exit out the game (im on console pc may have to adjust a little). Step two go to where you have the game application for pc or the my games and apps section on xbox. And step three, delete the game!!!
28:56 personally I love being solo ulted if my team can do something.
this is so high quality, didnt expect you to have less than 1k subs when i checked
3:39 bro let him inner Deku outside
no matter what i do or how i am trying to learn from my mistakes , at least i know i am going to rot in gold elo hell
the food comparisons made this video SO GOOD.
Absolutely BRILLIANT video.
No one else would say this so I will. Love the Pokémon X and Y boutique remix
fucking died when you were hyping the echo up just for the teamate to leave lmfaooo
As a dps main forced to be a support main, it be like that. I hate playing mercy and life weaver because you have to rely on other's so much. And played solo queue feels impossible sometimes. So I gravitate towards the dps supports.
You know what’s crazy? Illiari and kiriko do more dmg on headshot then gengi’s dragon blade.
u saying this like illari and kiriko players can realistically just hit headshots chained at the same pace a blading genji swings while having a gap closer than resets on elimination
@@jermu8706 it doesn't matter that if they can hit consistent headshots. A support shouldn't be doing more DMG than a DPS ult. Should also remind you of support abilities?
@@d3falt101 i will not argue over this because the comparison you are making is so lobotomized i wont change your mind anyways
@@jermu8706 You main support right?
@@d3falt101i main hitscan dps, mostly soldier and cassidy
visual edit is crazy, man. good shit
your editing is carrying bro keep it up, you're gonna be well known i promise
Holy insane quality keep up the good work
I will say with Illari she gets really old after a while. I used to main her for a good amount of time (I have about 80 hours on her) and around the 50 hour mark I realized how stale her kit is.
You pretty much just go on an off angle, set up pylon, shoot, don’t move. It’s the same loop every time because of how her kit is designed.
I now just play DPS now because it’s the same experience but with much more impactful damage and my team doesn’t hate me.
That's honestly very similar to what i experienced later on during the challenge. i felt like illari was just overshadowed by bap in nearly every aspect, which is why i leaned more towards playing bap later on.
Around the same damage output, better healing output, better utility, and ult is situational, but honestly I prefer window.
Not only does bap feel more interactive to play, his kit is just straight up stronger...
bro ur super funny, entertaining, and your editing is amazing. love your content and hope you can continue growing even more soon. u just got a new subscriber
the fact that americans put ketchup w their fries will always baffle me as a dutch person.
dutch or belgian mayonaise is the true path for fry condiments
How about both together?
9:03 This is the most unexpected controversial thing in an overwatch video
Its great to see im not the only one with the dreaded 4th game after a 3 win streak
I'm surprised you don't have more subscribers and views. This is a great video! It's well editted and formatted, and more people should recognize your channel.
thanks! glad you enjoyed the video
Im eating these analysis up! Great work!
Hey man I saw your latest video AKA the tank one and I just wanted to say that you are truly underrated, and I hope to see a DPS related vid!
Actually Moria is pretty good in high elo because of her healing output
It's not her healing output it's her mobility and hoe simple she is she can chase a low HP target for a kill she can peel for her team has good healing numbers it's cause there's not many situations where she's bad outside playing with flyers
i love this video, i had a good laugh and its so relatale as a supp main
42:14 damn bro wants depression
The least surprising part of the video was the Fortnite pros being assholes. Enjoyed the video.
Support isn’t meant to be played who you wanna pick support is there to best support there team that means picking the best support for the comp. Support is the biggest factor in having a good team comp. Supports will be the first to tell you to switch while not switching themself because they got “good healing”.
Mmm. Sprite with McDonald's fries is a great combo. I also struggle with ana with the healing/sleep darts especially at range lol.
great video but fyi dont frontline on brig and play with your tank, its much better to hold down the backline on brig and protect your second support if their playing ana or smth
Hardest part of playinf support is having a second competent support
As a zen main who barely plays this game he hits like a truck and I love him