The FALL of Overwatch 2
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- Опубликовано: 6 май 2024
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Today I will be talking about why Overwatch is a let down, and why Overwatch 2 is the worst game of all time, and why Overwatch 2 pve was dissapointing, and how Overwatch 2 expensive shop prices killed the game, and why Overwatch 2 steam reviews are justified, and how Blizzard killed Overwatch, and why Overwatch 2 shop prices are bad, and why Overwatch Invasion or Overwatch season 6 wasn't good enough.
Please like this video and share it with your friends if you enjoy it.
0:00 - Intro
0:55 - Denial
7:42 - Anger
13:28 - Bargain
15:59 - Depression
19:23 - Acceptance
20:43 - Outro
#overwatch #overwatch2 #saveow2 #overwatchseason6 #ow2 #overwatchinvasion #layoffs 
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Amazing video! Well made, grats on the views.
looking forward to the next one
oh my god, thank you so much! this means more to me than you can imagine
@@silvamlonwhat if i donate 500
Was it really a surprise when it failed?@@silvamlon
imagine being braindead enough to support this garbage. and i don't even play overwatch
Greedyness isn't a word. Greed is the word you are looking for. The "yness" is superfluous
People seem to forget another lie, Blizzard said:
"Overwatch 1 and Overwatch 2 players can play together"
Thanks fot reminding me I had completely forgotten that part 🤡💀
Exactly, the heck is that suppose to mean?
They literally shut down and remove Overwatch 1.
@@anananananananananananananana If I remember correctly, this was announced pretty early on, and they clearly implied at the time that OW2 and OW would be two different things but that they would share servers so that people playing on OW2 could still play we the players that stayed on OW.
@@Zack_Zanderit used to be OW2 is PVE OW is PVP
if they get an account on OW2 they are no longer OW1 players are they...so no, that is not what was promised....@@anananananananananananananana
Overwatch is finally dead… I can finally rest easy…
It’s full of rage, but still has a player base with millions
@Idkdk9rk well- 99% of those are overwatch porn conunity, ow only uad a few dozen thousand players on steam
@@CoconutDoge I’m NA console and I can find a game max 6 minutes, while yes the game is dying it’s not completely dead. And the ow porn community is not a thing. It’s a group of low testosterone addicts who need to see real women. Blizzard is doing everything they can to prevent the inevitable: have Microsoft take the company under their own wing
@@CoconutDoge But I agree like how do the animators/artist put more in then blizzard themselves 💀
why are you lying when you can simply open steam and see it has over 60k players online right now playing JUST on steam not including console lmaooo@@CoconutDoge
Remember when people said Overwatch would lead TF2 to die. Not only did tf2 live longer than overwatch, it lived longer than overwatch 2 😂
I mean tf2 has had it's own problems but Overwatch 2 didn't even put up a fight
it's better, just lazy developers
get over it
Tf2 being alive right now is a stretch. Player numbers are bloated by bots
@@Ishizaky1tf2 also have lazy developers.. game is just better
And TF2 is much cooler, excellent campaign, you can wall run and fly jump constantly. No shitty shield meta can against those want to rodeo without any assistances.
The worst part about failures like this is the knowing part, knowing just how much money they have and how many resources and how talented of a workforce they have and literally do NOTHING with it
Exactly. It's so sad comparing it to Riot Games who do tons of things like e-sports, music, cinematic and a whole ass series which aren't profitable at all. (I do hope Arcane filled their pockets tho lmao)
They do all those things because they care about the game and want to keep it alive. They could have easily sat on their money but they just don't do that.
All of this potential, wasted...
I see this is a new trend in gaming nowadays, it's truly a shame.
They're not doing nothing with those resources, they're completely mismanaging them, which is a little worse as it means they're wasting the honest efforts of competent people.
Well they didn’t fire a lot of their skilled developers for nothing.
I mean why put money and effort into your games if you can also put your effort into cheap cashgrabs that make you more money than ever before. It sadly works out for them and they don’t care that they ruin the good name of the company and the faith we had in it
It's really sad, this game holds a huge place in my heart and it hurts seeing it get milked to death and shoved aside.
well, atleast now there is a huge open space for a new class based shooter to come around, so that could be fun, I hope you liked the vid!
welcome to what destiny has been experiencing for a long time, it isnt fun i agree.
@@silvamlon I did like the vid, it is just a sad reality tho that most of gaming is heading towards this model of infinite micro transactions and laziness. Which will probably make gaming go to its lowest point ever outside of indie games. Along with possible big companies dying out once everyone realizes it isn't worth to play those games.
Come here to play games for fun, lots of games from triple a companies don't understand that all the way anymore XD
Blizzard practically ruined all their games entirely so dont feel bad thats their motto lol
Same. Will never forget the fun i had even if it was furious at times but the feeling of energy and adrenalin flow was always guaranteed. Now my adrenalin rushes only when i see everything locked behind battlepass. No price is justified if it was previously free and part of the core gameplay.
The PvE was A proof of concept which they downscaled and sold to us, A DOWNSCALED PROOF OF CONCEPT.
Its heart breaking what they have done to this game.
What the blizzard execs did to the game*** dont blame the devs they’re trying their hardest when they have shitty higher ups. Invasion is the salvage of what was canceled because they wanted to put their work out. When all the original devs left in the middle of pve it was difficult for the new team because they got a shitton of work without and idea what the original vision was
It's not downscaled at all. They literally just said. "Yeah we kinda suck at this, but we'll give you guys what we got." And now they're drip feeding it to us. You have a little too much respect for blizzard if you think they have that much more content for this thing behind the scenes.
I feel bad for the OW players who had to get one of the biggest gut punches in gaming history, I never played OW but I feel really bad for you guys. This is just HEARTBREAKING and this is why I fear about games getting updated because they become worse or they take away what was good. They tried to fix a problem that didn't exist and they got greedy..
This is why tf2 is superior
@@atlas.from.portal2
TF2 has PvE (Mann vs Machine) as well all the way back in 2012
In the words of a wise man “if you give money to blizzard you deserve a bad game”
Yeah people act surprised but that's exactly how blizzard underdelivered for years in world of warcraft. Old blizzard is dead.
the fact anyone trusted blizzard to do overwatch 2 right baffles me when world of warcraft had both bfa and shadowlands right before overwatch 2 came out, and we all know how those expansions did.
Keep hearing from insiders, that blizzard sucks, conclusion, blizzard sucks.
In all seriousness, blizzard made a huge mistake of putting a money maker as the lead game designer instead of someone qualified. The issue is of course is the simple fact you just can't lead a horse to water if you have no damn clue where it is. It really sucks to hear how this affects programmers.
Everyone had all the redflags before the game even launched. Right before it was given a launch date Jeff jumped ship, a month before the actual launch the lead producer also jumped ship. Month into launch the lead character designer quit etc. Reality was ATVI suffered a huge stock crash with all the lawsuits/strikes and controversies. They were rushing literally everything they had out to launch in order to pad up the P/E ratio and stock value for the eventual MSFT buyout. They didn't care about the longevity of those titles anymore just quick gains to keep them afloat.
Yup and no amount of “revealing” heroes to be LGBTQ+ could save them.
The fact that their excuse was "It was taking too long and didn't meet our standards" is literally the same as saying "We are too lazy to keep developping our game, so we decided to come out with a smaller PvE, yea see ya in a few months when we add a new season"
If it doesn't meet your standards.... Then make it better.
If it's taking time.... Then it's the time needed to make it.
You don't make something faster than is needed to make it.
They're just lazy and greedy.
The fact that on launch the store has no bugs and function perfectly.... when on launch you also physically couldn't get into a lobby, some heroes had to be disabled due to bugs, and you got locked inside maps after a match so you had to alt f4 and relaunch your whole game to fix it...... Yeah it's just greed and laziness.
@@soulsearcher9620 I guess it's just bobby kotick saying "why the hell do we need 3 years for a pve people will buy once, while we can just add a battlepass in 5 minutes that people will need to buy monthly ? remove that sh*t"
@@soulsearcher9620 Also, I think if covid didn't exist they would have "the time" to develop everything in time and maybe it wouldn't have been delayed
goofy ahh people 💀 its just a game lil bro
@@mika-yy7gk what if it’s a game you spent 1000h on ?
The fact that we can NEVER go back to Overwatch 1 in actually pure, sheer robbery. I cannot believe I have had one of my favourite games stolen away from me...
Only 2 trash support characters this whole year it’s a joke. And their character design is shit and is worse quality than every other hero before. They look like bad fan made heros.
Literally. We paid for overwatch 1. I feel like it's not even legal to just get rid of it entirely.
expect overwatch classic in 3 years where you can rebuy everything you had already bought
Yep. I bought a physical copy of Overwatch 1 when it came out, at the urge of my brother. Boycotting Blizzard has been a really good decision.
bruh they diddnt even remove it, they just threw a shitty update on it and called it overwatch 2, its got the exact same file path and exe even. its the exact same fundamental game. they just took an extra big sledgehammer tho the hero kits this time, threw in a battlepass, and rotated out half the maps, fucked the core balance even more, and told you it was new. you got scammed both ways.
Devs in the past "how can we make this fun?"
Devs today "how can we make money off of this?"
Devs in the early 80s: how can we milk this?
Video game industry: *crashes*
@@cyanidenightshade Ah yes, *shovelware.* Atari 2600 has it... Both "I Want My Mommy" and also the porn games probably qualify.
Tbh, its mostly the investors that want short term profits, most devs are paid standard wages and dont gain anything from making the game p2w anyways
it’s always been about the money.
@@unusualtoaster4279ban money
I would make a tf2 2 joke, but after watching this I feel it’s not right. This community has been through a lot and I respect that. Amazing video.
That is the spirit you magnifcent bilbobagts
Yea im from tf2 community, and after seeing this, im so confused and mad at the same time by Blizzard's action, unlike valve, who abandon the game and let the community keep tf2 alive to these day is still better than Developers destroy their own game
*Soldier hearing about the death of OW*: "You were loud and ugly, and now you're DEAD! Amen."
@@alphayakee2693fr tho, that's what I've been thinking the devs abandoning their game is a better move rather than them killing their own game (I'm not saying valve leaving tf2 is a great idea but ye get what I'm sayin)
as a tf2 fan we shouldnt make fun of overwatch being treated like this. it could happen to us too
You forgot about what they really put their work into for those 3 years! The store, battle pass, and psychologists to make micro-transactions as predatory as possible
Sadly every publisher nowadays just focus all the work on micro transactions and call it a day. No wonder why a lot of games are dying quicker than ever
@@arturoehr Not BG3 or Elden Ring : )
@@ChronicConundrumI'mma give you head for that
@@ChronicConundrumCuz those are actual games
@@ChronicConundrumyeah cause elden ring isn’t a pvp game
Playing overwatch on release in 2016 was such an incredible and unique experience. It’s not an experience I expect to ever have again.
Ow on release was so fun cuz every every single character was broken. In that way it was balanced
This
Almost no cheaters. And majority of people didn’t know what they were doing so the picks were actually somewhat diverse.
Once the world sees the country the size of Texas defeat a global superpower, it will motivate everyone to fight against corruption and greed
And once that happens, we will take over companies like Blizzard and make gaming what it used to be
It was so much fun, it was just a party game. No ranked, no limitations, just 6 bastions going up against whatever else wacky shit, it was the mario kart of shooters and I miss it immensely.
i just realized this video has its segments divided into the five stages of grief, fucking brilliant
I remember being extremely concerned for the game the milisecond it was announced to be free to play.
As a Team Fortress 2 Player, it’s nice to see both communities come together to dump on blizzard. It’s heartwarming
This is like starting a TF2 taunt and everyone joins in lol
We are all collectively kazotsky kicking ontop of its grave
I read heartwarming in Spy's voice lol
@@gravitygames4495 hong gong hong
Someone could make a map for TF2's workshop where it's a graveyard with a gravestone with OW logo on it and let players do whatever they want on it lol @@Jason-or4qy
The anger i feel mostly comes from the fact that the potential was astronomical and blizzard killed every bit of hope for the game.
Blizzard are absolute *masters* of squandering potential nowadays.
So you're saying you wouldn't get angry when you are promised something and wait years for it, and then get told "I lied bitch". Good for you I guess.
@@kelsormjaquan gaming is a passion and an art form.
It's normal to have these reactions.
What are we supposed to do?
Just not care about anything?
@@kelsormjaquanJesus, aggressive much? Dude just said he didn't like having something he paid for get messed with/removed.
@@kelsormjaquan this is completely idiotic and utterly insane
Blizzard became one of those companies that went from chasing dreams to chasing trends.
I really miss this game man. Super nostalgic about this game still, its wild. Just so sad to see an amazing game fall so, so hard. 2016-2019 era of OW was some of the best times in my gaming life with so many friends, duos, and a collegiate team. Goodbye Overwatch, burn!
You hit 99% of everything that happened. I’m shocked you managed to capture everything from the past few years. What an amazing summary. I love this
Um.. how? Everyone and their mother captured everything from the past 4 years a million times
@@DetectiveEmaSkye 🆗
This is very well made. Thank you for voicing your thoughts as it aligns with so many of us who have been mislead and disappointed.
I'm glad you liked the video!!
It still hits me with a wave of sadness and anger and disappointment everytime I see the blizzard stream where they announce the PVE's cancellation
One thing you missed that i wish you included is that when there was a bug between mei and kiriko they decided to remove mei and keep kiriko because it was the season that she had released in or because she had a mythic skin. (I can't remember) So instead of removing kiriko and affecting their bottom line and battle pass mei had to go. But they still wanted you to pay money for the mei skin the same day she was removed... That you couldn't use.
After having watched the last few minutes, ill add you ignored the fact that they gave supports like 200 consecutive nerfs and then locked half the bp xp behind playing supports forcing players to play these garbage sacks. You also missed the part where not just the higher ups but the entire ow2 team from bottom to top lied to the community for 18 months about pve whilst selling bp, cosmetics, tokens, watchpoint packs, and more. They directly profited from the lie and knew they did it.
After the news hit they forced players to esign away their right to sue them in a class action lawsuit for doing this. It came in the form of an updated EULA but it was more than that. Im the only one who read the damn thing cuz no one else even brought this up.
We all miss Jeff. NO ONE can replace him and the people that actually loved making games. Blizzard just makes glorified casinos now. Death to the company. Down with Bobby! 🔥☠️🔥
Jeff was an asshole, the dude is resposable for OW1 being a total unbalanced mess. Dont miss that guy one bit. Everytime a new "nerf everybody" video showed up, I wanted to punch his stupid face. Glad he left
Down with Bobby, Wilson, Iger, and all others like them!
👏
Cut the rose tinted crap. Jeff isn't exactly making the game any better after a while. He's reached his peak and fell off.
@@Bestow3000I was about to say this. In 2:00 the video even says how Jeff completely dropped the ball until actbliz decided to pull the trigger on ow2.
Loot boxes in overwatch 1 actually felt very fair. I understand taking out the ability to buy them, but they shouldn't have been removed for leveling up.
Even more when it lessened your chances of getting duplicates.
You still could but they made it so that happened less often.
Lootboxes in OW1 may be a grey predatory mechanic that game companies use nowadays, but yeah I can totally agree that it is much more fair. (It doesn't gatelock people from heroes, only cosmetics are there... you don't need to pay, it only need some of your time and you could get back to grinding anytime) And in other games with this mechanic, they give you exp or gold boosters to get skins or items you wanted. (might still take a while to get what you wanted, but they are pretty generous especially on events that it doesn't matter)
Then OW2 came with a black predatory mechanic, gatelocking people (every new past OW2 heroes you must do 6 training challenge, and win 35 times on that hero class, and lvl 45 on the BP for the current new hero), If you pay you still have to grind for it (seriously 10k exp for 1 level in battlepass? 2-15 matches are needed depending if you have dailies or not), and if you don't pay.... It doesn't have a respect for your time and always wants you to put hours in to hopefully get what you wanted... But it's system gives you a drop in bucket for rewards (and you can't even use it for the majority of items)
OW2 is a joke, I'd rather spend my money worthwhile games at this point. Heck I think even gacha games looks much more fair with their character pulls than OW2's "reward" system
Getting them from leveling up was another incentive for people to play the game
It wasn't bad because you bought the game. It would've killed OW1 if it was extremely predatory like it was with EA (just look at why they were banned in the first place) however seeing how greedy they are now with those prices you can't stop and think they put the old loot box mechanics In OW2
They had to trade it out for a new system with the BP cause the game was becoming free. Miss them tho.
“TF2 was able to make PvE in a cave! With a box of scraps!” - A Angry Blizzard Fan
The worst part is that Overwatch 1 is no longer playable, so we can't go back
without a doubt Jeff is the only individual that kept ow alive. He cared because his entire reputation revolved around the playerbase. He read what players wanted and delivered time and time again. There were 1 or 2 controversial launches under him but were quickly fixed. Overall OW1 was a success and a truly amazing experince. It's not asinine to think 1 person can keep an entire game together. Sakurai does it every time with smash brothers. OW2 hasn't felt amazing to me, just a clone. jeff did the big brain move of leaving, I think he knew what was coming and he couldn't convince others that the decision they were making was terrible. OW2 can be fun, but it required much more work from the players than the actual programers, and that is not how a game should be.
When brig get launched how many time past before the goat was deleted by the role queu
But yes ow still good after the role queu and a bit better in comp
nah L take overwatch would have failed with or without jeff it was just a question of whether or not jeff wanted to go down with the ship
@@ninja666gaming the literal Overwatch Team that used to work at Blizzard said Jeff Kaplan was the one who shielded the team from the higher-ups’ bullshit and he was the reason why the team managed to have a positive work environmeny overall. Their own words. Like sure, OW2 was destined to fail regardless of Kaplan, because of the horrible management on Blizzard’s end. But denying that Jeff Kaplan had a huge positive effect on the game would be undermining his work and disrespecting his efforts.
assuming that Jeff sticks around in some capacity as a game developer, I'd love to see what he's cooking up next
Yeah, Overwatch 2 took everything good about Overwatch 1 and turned into a cash grab scam. Blizzard did the same thing with Diablo 4. Every game they make now are just scams. I'll never play another Blizzard game ever again. Sucks because their games used to be amazing, but the people who made those games have either left or died years ago. One of the old Warcraft Devs that left said himself than Blizzard is a dead company being controlled by Activision at this point.
never really caught up with diablo 4, but if thats true then blizzard really is done at this point, I wonder what it would have been like if the activision blizzard fusion never went through...
@@silvamlon It's hard so say, but it's very clear that under Activision that they operate under a profits first design and are not above using false promises and manipulation to do so. Diablo 4 has a ton of manipulative designs intentionally there to force players to spend more time and money in game. I would like to assume that they wouldn't be doing such underhanded tactics outside the influence of Activision but who knows. They could easily be using Activision as a scapegoat for their greedy decisions.
how is a free game a cash grab?
@@Doop2314 did you not watch the video?
@@Doop2314man instantly paused the video and went straight to hating the comments
Even as a TF2 player, I'm kinda sad that such a great company would fall so low.
most criminally underrated channel in existence, this type of quality is beyond others that have millions of subs
The biggest spit in the face was taking Overwatch 1 offline. Even though they had pretty much abandoned it in the last couple years of its lifetime I was having so much fun playing it with my brother. We loved playing it together and would play every week. We haven't touched overwatch 2 in almost 5 months now, and frankly I don't see any reason to ever return
You both should tries SCP sl
They had to take down OW1 because it's the same game. They had to take down to push the idea that OW2 supposedly was a new thing.
Wait, so, question: if you owned OVW1 on a disc or something, is it just like a sad singleplayer(?) game with no multiplayer support now?
@@jackaxed It was never possible to play offline, you had to connect to the server before playing the game. Overwatch 1 doesn't exist anymore, it received a patch and was updated to OW2. So if you owned it, or had installed, the first thing it'll do when you connect to the server will be downloading a big update patch that will transform it into OW2.
@@jackaxedoverwatch 1 was just overwritten with overwatch 2. Everyone who had the disk version would just be forced to update it and all the original data on the disk was written over with new data.
So there is literally NO way to play the original game (as of right now). There are no torrents available, no OG hardcopies being sold on Ebay for $500, no untouched accounts that "weren't updated yet". Nothing. It is 100% impossible to play OW1. Someone would have to illegally create the game from scratch in order to "get the game back".
It really is sad, as a tf2 player, when you take a step back and look at both games, it’s especially sad knowing that both games have been essentially abandoned by the developers except for them stopping by about 3 times a year to try and squeeze out some more money from their players. It is nice to see that tf2 is getting some more communication from valve, but i feel so bad for my friends who were so hyped for ow2 and completely let down. I dont want either game to fail, but this kind of stuff is unacceptable.
I agree, I am a diehard fan of both TF2 and OW. But lately, it’s coming to the point I am finding very few reasons to play Overwatch or TF2 anymore. The content feels predatory and like an elaborate scheme to squeeze money out of people who were hopeful of the game. I can definitely say that if Activision doesn’t cut this “profit first” bullshit, I am going to quit Overwatch altogether, cold turkey. I started playing in 2018 and this game was one of my favorite games ever. To then be treated like shit as a consumer who bought the game, bought merchandise, spent countless hours playing the game, to see it all then go from “we care about our players” to “blah blah blah, empty promises empty promises, now give me 20 bucks dumbass” makes me feel betrayed.
seal
@@weed884 this guy gets it
@@djtrac3r935 I have to wonder what John 'TotalBiscuit' Bain would make of all this, seeing how he advocated for the lootbox model that they used, which was understandable at the time considering how rare their more generous approach to the monetization model was back then?
*Gone too soon though...*
try being a gw2 fan
the group finder option being removed was honestly very upsetting for me. none of my friends play overwatch that much anymore so that tool always allowed me to find some people to play with. now playing overwatch 2 it feels very sad and lonely
Overwatch 2 players: “let me guess your home?”
Overwatch 1 players: “yes and it was beautiful”
guess my home?
@@victoriavanderlinden6691 ruclips.net/video/qU-5pe98DwM/видео.html
I understood that reference
TF2 Players: Mustve been the wind
Love it when games are so detail oriented and thoughtful. They didn’t let you make smurfs because they were going to smurf for you.
Back in season 3, i made a smurf account, because my main was hardstuck gold. Ended up in high diamond/master. So by blizzard removing smurf accounts, i would actually end up smurfing with my main account. GG, blizzard
Once the world sees the country the size of Texas defeat a global superpower, it will motivate everyone to fight against corruption and greed
And once that happens, we will take over companies like Blizzard and make gaming what it used to be
@---mm4ic I don't know why you were saying that, but it's clearly an exception situation. The bigger picture is people in diamond going to bronze or what not to steamroller and giggles.
Also, it's expected for anyone to improve as you continue playing. The smurf problem is exactly there even in your case. You just didn't or haven't repeatedly reset to a new account, which is something a smurfer does.
@@---mm4ic ow2 inflation is what let u be dia masters. gold player in ow1 making a smurf would still be terrible and gold/plat. worst part about ow2 is they let anyone hit gm/top 500 with this disgusting ranked system
Really well-edited, concise and fun video, dude. Great job!
All TF2 characters seeing Overwatch 2: *Insert combined laugh of all of them*.
3.1k Views? Here before this whole video blows up, good to see there’s still people out there who actively show that you can care about a game, and fight for it being better, even if you criticise it and acknowledge the bad that’s been done and how bad it actually is.
You are insanely underrated man, looking forward to seeing you rise.
thanks! sadly i dont know if this vid will blow up, in the latest hours the yt algorythm hasnt been very kind.....
@@silvamlon well I hope it does and will be spreading this as much as I can
@@silvamlon u sure?
@@silvamlon I mean yeah the algorithm can be kinda weird sometimes but this video is super good! I really enjoy your editing style as well, hope to see you more in the future!
@@silvamlon 4 days and 140k views I think the algorithm was kind :D
The question was "how did they scam their entire playerbase without getting purged and blacklisted from the industry?" and the answer is "the scam worked."
My cosmetics ended up in the rare instance where the coin lands on neither heads or tails but on its side. Most of my cosmetics were there but a select few (mostly the ones that had come with the edition of the game I bought) were gone. It was a very weird situation.
i lost all 4 years of xbox overwatch progress when overwatch 2 happened
This was a great video man. It was insanely well made. Keep them coming.
This was actually an insanely well edited and put together video.
I think a sentiment that a decent amount of the playerbase can agree on is that the content we are getting isnt even bad, but its not what we were promised, so it comes off as mundane. This was the only season i bought the battlepass for and i can say with 100% certainty, that i regret that purchase. The only thing keeping me around is the workshop that i'll dabble in time to time.
Other games have just had more to offer, and in a manner in which i will happily spend my money on. I would rather spend $100 on Rust skins and DLC's over $15 for anymore missions, because i know that the game will have more to offer me in the long run. Whether that be just a fun time sync, or actually making a few friends randomly while playing that i will continue to play with.
I think unless something big changes Overwatch will slowly fall out of the mainstream, and hopefully the game that replaces it will be much better.
you just described my exact feelings with this game, Overwatch doesn't really offer anything of worth anymore, so putting unfinished content behind a paywall only serves to encourage their already disappointed playerbase to... not play the game lol
I'm glad you enjoyed the vid zaggy, more are coming in the future!
I really want a game as fun as Overwatch was to me. I was actually a new player and started on ow2, but i found it to be one of the best, most fun games... until, the news came out, and i learned about the past four years.
I wish I hadn't missed Overwatch's golden moment. I've known overwatch for years but never thought of playing it until 2022, after Ow2 released...
and i can't find a game that can replace this, no matter what i play, overwatch was one of my best experiences. Valorant, CSGO, any other fps shooter... so now im stuck with nothing :/
@@TamWam_ - Yeah it sucks really bad. But if you still really like it then keep playing it, but talk with your wallet. The game will never change if we allow the monetization they are using to work. The Apex community has been doing this for awhile for their heirloom stuff. The money they get for bad practices is only the amount we give them, and every penny counts for bad corpo.
deserves more views
thanks fella I appreciate your support
Hi. I'm one of the new views that was deserved
@@violetk2020 :)
I WAS SO SHURE YOU WERE SOME FAMOUS YOUTOUBER HOW DO
Hell no, steam reviews does not define popularity or liability
2016-2018 Overwatch was truly something special and held great value. You had to be there to understand the significance of just how special it was. Completely unique and so engaging with one of the best communities of any triple A title at the time.
I remember laying in bed in my college room on my trash 720p 35 inch TV and PS4 grinding ranked all night after studying. I still get snapchat memories come up from years ago of crazy play of the games i recorded on my phone. Mcree pop offs and wild reaper ults. It really was such a special game compared to generic titles of the time. So very much potential and now its dead. Its really quite sad.
I’d wager the reason the game was killed was because it wasn’t immediately lucrative. I once saw a comment that stated like, Blizzard made the objectively wrong choice. Should they have made the PVE as they promised, they could have had the PVP *and* PVE players eating out of their hands and item shops. But no, end their promises and expect fans to still love them.
Whats more heartbreaking is people actually buying the invasion missions and saying its okay. Why even support a half done game mode?
My friend is such a whale and he bought the pack. His words summed it all up.
“I’m gonna buy what I want. Nothing is gonna change if I stop spending money on them”
That’s exactly what these consumers tell themselves. And it really is pathetic.
@@Sesh23 thats when you tell him, "well if you invest into shit, don't expect the toilet(blizzard) to give you something good in return." And go play a good PvE experience like Armored Core VI
@@Sesh23 People like your friend are ruining games. If people didn't buy this crap it wouldn't exist. It only exists because it sells. I do not buy any game that has any form of microtransaction anymore, haven't for years, I also don't pre-order since there's literally no point at all to that anymore, steam is not going to run out of copies on day one like the brick and mortar shops of old. People who buy microtransactions should be ruthlessly mocked for their idiotic spending and the damage they do to games for the rest of us. There's so many great independant games out there these days that you can always find something better to play than any wallet sucking microtransaction infested triple A game, I've never felt like I've missed out on anything worthwhile for refusing to give these companies a cent.
I miss the days when cosmetics were earned through gameplay, and having a cool helmet or whatever meant you'd done some difficult achievement in the game, not an indication that you're a whale.
Sunken cost syndrome
@@IronHorse1854 agreed. I hardly even touch Overwatch anymore but I’ll be damned if I give them a cent
I had a friend since kindergarten who loves Overwatch since it’s released and me being a TF2 player. We would joke about the rivalry and how great our games were but after some time, she never spoke or post anything about Overwatch after the “sequel” was released and has since abandoned it and felt sad about OW’s current state. We competed as friends and foes of two different games, but this isn’t a victory for me or TF2 when the competition is killing itself
Lol kids
@@honiahakaaWhat?
@@ryansherby5678he thinks they're 12
I never thought tf2 competed with overwatch. The game was "dead" by then. I quit playing after the demoman got instant kills with the sword and shield. Nowhere the same game I bought with orange box
@@SECONDQUEST we got more hats and crates though.
For real one of the saddest things in my gaming experience. Overwatch was my favorite game of all time for years. Even with the community getting more and more toxic and the drip dropping of content, I spent hours on hours in the game. When O2 came around my fire for the game was relit. But after playing it more and more I stopped having fun. I thought if I kept playing and kept ranking up it would be fun again, even after rolling a couple games in comp and then getting rolled a couple games I thought it would be fun. It never became fun again. I absolutely love the battle pass idea when it includes COSMETICS ONLY. But putting a brand new character and game changing content behind a pricetag in a highly competitive game is what still leaves a horrible taste in my mouth. I wish Blizzard treated this game and it’s community with the respect it deserves, but they won’t. I don’t believe they ever will. The golden age of blizzard has long passed, and the golden age of Overwatch ended when Jeff Kaplan left, and I will never be upset at him for it. Jeff was truly the game dev we deserved but was only given A PARAGRAPH to speak to all of us one final time. Blizzard is dead, Overwatch is dead, Activision and the Midas Touched greedy higher ups at this company killed it. I’m gonna go play a different game now, cheers.
You should play it now, it’s not bad. But yes, it will never be the same
go play tf2
It had so much potential with the first game. I was hoping they would keep expanding it like League of Legends. Yes the LOL community is very toxic, but the game has lasted so long with such extensive lore and new Champs every year. This is what I hope for OW1; many heros and a exciting complicated lore. I even thought a movie or tv series would be made. But I knew when they made a second game it would end it entirely. Blizzard has lost my interest, they continue time and time to be the money hungry demon company they have always been.
I appreciate DRG being shown at the end there as "a game made with love" because I think anyone who has put any amount of time into that game can just feel how much the devs actually care about making a good, fun game. OW was (mostly) good while it lasted, but it's time to put it to rest
ROCK AND STONE??
@@thesidewolf8502did i hear a rock and stone
ROCK AND STONE!
ROCK N STONE!
Rock and Stone!
I actually miss OG overwatch, back in 2016-2019 were some of the most fun gaming times with my friends in overwatch ive had. Sad that this game is being ruined because of corporate greed.
And laziness. Only 2 trash support characters this whole year it’s a joke. And their character design is shit and is worse quality than every other hero before. They look like bad fan made heros.
Brilliant video, summarizes my thoughts perfectly. Seven years of my life i spent whole hearted on this game, only to be slapped in the face repeatedly.
Incedible Storytelling! Love how u planned that video
Got to love the 'removed' on fire system
They removed it so hard you could still hear the voice lines for it (meaning they most likely didn't remove it but hid it for no good reason) and even for the new heros as well :)
@@drpotatosalad5041 I'm surprised not that many people called them out on that. Everyone kept saying it wasn't actually removed back when it was voices only, and then they announced it coming back as a feature but I guess by that point there was so much bullshit going on that there were too many things to get mad about besides the somewhat false advertising.
To this day I'll never understand why they removed it in the first place.
@@bokunogentoo4420 a lot of people did but theres no point in complaining about something for so long, its still pretty much the same game lol
@@drpotatosalad5041 lmao they did the same thing in HotS for a while.
On fire system was in for years, then they suddenly remove it and put it back like a year later
A certain soldier : *"Good news! We're not going to die, we're going to live forever!"*
Blizzard : *"I didn't say that! I just say we're not going to pull the plug"*
Sad 😔
Man... your editing is on a different level. You've truly inspired me.
i feel sad for the one guy who worked so hard to literally be the best the amount of hours he clocked in that in the end Overwatch made levels just so HE COULD PROGRESS
I remember hearing that the pvp was gonna release before the pve and immediately realized that pve will never happen. That they were just gonna hype people up and then not deliver. Like they’ve done countless times before, I still don’t know how people keep falling for it
Me too! But for me its not a 100% feel, but War3 reforged gave me a bad feeling about it
False Hope is a powerful drug.😞
As Tf2 player, it so nice to see both communities join forces and hate on the company and the game. It warms the heart.
As a person who never touched both games....its nicer to see both die lol
@@daxxgaming2567 Sad part for you is that only Overwatch is dead.
@@JunkMysterion tf2 is dead yall delusional kinks are only prolonging the inevitable lol
@@daxxgaming2567100k active players in question:
@@daxxgaming2567 *tf2 casually getting its highest player peak with 253,225 players this summer*
This was an interesting video for me, because most of my friends were casual Overwatch players. When OW1 went offline and skins weren't properly transferring, they all stopped playing altogether. I can't believe it got worse.
Was never big into Overwatch due to its popularity and price tag (at the time I had to choose which day I could eat a bowl of rice and which week I could eat a can of vegetables) and even after Overwatch 2 came out, I heard mostly negative things. Most issues were centered around the hero price tags and such, but I didn't realize how bad it actually was. Also that false currency in the battle pass is a marketing ploy in cash grab games, so I feel the greed should have been more obvious from that point.
"The Fall of OW2" implies it was ever in a place of grace in the first place. I feel like this video should be named "The Inevitable and Unavoidable End of Overwatch". It's probably one of the biggest and loudest falls from grace in gaming history, which is massive shame given OW1 was incredible for so so long. I'll always remember the better times.
But it wasn’t inevitable or unavoidable, blizzard just dropped the bag big time.
Wait until starcitizen takes the throne
you literally contradict yourself in this one paragraph
you say the game was never in a place of grace and then in the NEXT SENTENCE, that OW1 was incredible for so so long. retarded comment but I agree with the sentiment
@@zakariyaz8233 idiot, they are taking about OW2
The problem is
A. the devs had good plans, indentions and ideas but finances wanted to make cash instead of a game
B. It was always overwelmingly negative there was just no outlet for people to post for overwatch 2 until steam.
true, honestly the game isnt even that bad, but they underdelivered on what they promised so much, and stole so much money that at this point i dont even enjoy playing this game anymore
@@silvamlon I enjoy playing the game still because breaking people's ankles on illios lighthouse point only to punch 3 people off is the only thing that gives me dopamine
The devs that had good plans, indentions and ideas are gone, the ones we got are new devs who have no idea about the game, let alone balance it.
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad not to say they are busing harrasing women
“Capitalism” almost a textbook case
I just got back into the game about 2 weeks ago and my god does it break my heart with the state it is in currently. Unbalanced roles, terrible matchmaking, and still an enormous smurfing problem. Blizzard broke my heart with the announcement of no PvE and it was with that one stream that I didn’t touch the game for almost 6 months. Playing it now is still fairly fun, but it makes me feel dirty playing it as it’s basically me supporting Blizzard even though they’ve done the bare minimum, and let greed dictate their decisions instead of following what the fans wanted. 😭
I just came back and am having a great time 👍
You know, it was like being a child in a poor familly... Every day every year, you work very hard to make your parents proud... but when it comes to christmas, they tell "baby we don't have enough money to get you a present" well, its fine you will tell me, you will wait next year, and then next year is the same.. you work hard, u study hard etc... until one day they tell you "You will have a gift this year we promised".. after many years u can finally have somethin, yeah... but they tell you "you'll have to wait a bit more" you wait then.. you wait... and then one day they tell you.. "I'm sorry baby, you can only have this" a gift that ressemble what they intended to give you first, but is nothing of it... because it was to much for them... But then you realise.. "its fine" you don't need it anymore, why? because you are now a grown man, that can live for something else now, you have been waiting for many years with false hope to get this gift, but to get nothing, when at the end you know you can get this gift, but from urself and somewhere else.... Well that the same thing with me, I have been waiting many years, I have been griding many years, hours, days thinking I will be like them.. Pine.. soon.. sinatraa... Jjonak... all of them, grinding even more, telling myself that blizzard will give us a great gift at the end... just to realise, nothing will come, and that all of those who I have been grinding for, to look like them, to be like them...are no more... Today I am a GM/Top500 support, I should be proud, but at what cost..
For a while, I used to play Overwatch on the PS4 when it first came out and I had an absolute blast with it, making so many plays and memories with the game, it really makes me sad to see this game become the way it was, but the memories will hold a place in my heart
Had a similar experience too.
@@LOUDMOUTHTYRONEsame wat rank u get
Same and I even posted videos about it too
i was actually watching the livestream where they announced the cancellation of pve, but somehow got distracted during the exact moment, and only noticed something was up when everyone suddenly became very angry
very nice summary of the events leading up to this mess
thanks zomg, sorry for mentioning the workshop on this vid only once
@@silvamlon No problem m8
"Oh, hey, guys, I'm back from the store--WHY IS THE HOUSE ON FIRE!?"
your video quality is good and unique, keep it up
10:17 the Lucio’s Sticker vs the ACTUAL Cereal of Lucio’s is frickin Hysterical.
12:06 Has me Dying!
Meanwhile MvM in TF2 was a massive hit and still a favourite game mode for many of the players
I never tried MvM, but I might make a video on it sometime in the future...
if you pay MVM for 1 dollar, you can get items,weapons and hats(I am sure), but most importantly, a golden weapons called australiums that you can sell it for 60+ dollars. I was an ow player too and I started playing TF2 and paladins. And I can Tell that MVM is really good!
@@maximalgames4368 yea you can buy the tickets on sale to get items but only the auatralium are worth anything and it's a 3% chance so better than lootbox unusuals but not by much.
But you can enjoy the mode completely free if you don't care about cosmetic drops and that's what matters.
Yeah yeah. "TF2 good, OW2 bad"
Also in the other TF2 (titanfall 2) it had a single player campaign that was amazing and it had a great Co-oP PvE called frontier defense which I spent many hours on.
If both TF2’s (which were primarily multiplayer pvp games) can make good pve, blizzard can too.
say what you will about valve neglecting TF2, but just remember that active dev teams can kill as much as they create
Yeah plus I’d say the TF2 fanbase has been overly dramatic at times lately.
@@mapleflag6518that's what having only one dev that is janitor does to ya
It's sad that videogames have shifted from full game release with everything done and finished back in physical copies, to now players having to litterally boycott games that abuse the "early access"/microtransactions and have sluggish developpement of their game
You put everything into words and described everything perfectly! Blizzard dropped the bag hard
when their not sexually abusing their workers that is
@@sytherwuskyThey were focussing to much on that than the actual game
@@KraylebStudios as in salvage what little reputation they have left?
What got me into Overwatch was the gameplay, the interesting lore, the different play styles the characters brought to players, the love they put into every part of their character designs, skins, and locations, the minute lore integrations in the interactions between characters, and a lot more I could go on about. I honestly feel really sad and frustrated with how they managed to ruin it. It wont ever be the same as it once was.
Yup and the 2 new supports they added this year have shit character design that is not on the same level of quality as every hero before
what got me into overwatch was graphics, borderlands are my favorite games and I'm a comic book enjoyer. what made me stay up until the end of it were the friends I picked up along the way. sad that the game is dead and I don't hear from friends anymore.
As a TF2 fan im surprised that this ambitious project didn't manage to outlive Team Fortress 2, practically we share somewhat same fate:
Abandoned by developers and yet still trying to enjoy the game by playing main gamemodes
Btw it's already 11 years since our PVE got added, *11 GODDAMN YEARS* and yet i feel like it was only 3 years ago
pacient had me rolling. Thank you for your video though, awesome stuff!!!
this is an incredible video. Every aspect of it is 10/10. The editing, the commentary, and the overall aura oozing out of this is just something i hope to one day get to.
How does this video not have like 500k views, everything said is so accurate and I think projects pretty much everyones opinions of ow2, lets just hope the youtube algorithm does its magic and makes this popular!
thanks! I'm also really hoping this blows up, if some popular streamer reacted to it it would be the cheery on top
Yeah, that was top tier overwatch content
Bc it's literally the same points we have been saying regurgitated with no personality, that's why it doesn't have x amount of views
Cause bro "only" has less then 2k subs so less people get notified. Honestly this video alone will massively boosting the channel
Just skip to step 5 acceptance and Play Team Fortress 2
You have to be somewhere high first to fall. OW"2" had nowhere to fall from. It was always gonna be a DLC map-pack, at best, but as soon as it was released, everyone realized it's actually a mandatory downgrade to the game full of paywalls.
the way we know why Kaplan left without him saying why he left is really amazing, Blizzard new era at it peaks
actual perfect representation on how I, and most definitely most of the player base, feel about the state of this game. awesome video!
only 5k subs? theres no way, don't stop man. I can see you in the hundreds of thousands real soon.
I remember playing Overwatch 2 briefly when it'd just come out. Or maybe it was one of the last betas, who knows.
Moira, my favorite healer, and favorite character in the entire game, had her kit changed juuuust enough that she was ruined for me.
Orisa, my favorite tank, was a COMPLETELY different character now that I no longer cared to play.
Wrecking Ball, my other favorite tank was pretty much the same as ever! ...Which was a problem when A: all the other tanks had been buffed and were much stronger, and B: The drop from 6 players down to 5 and only one tank being present, meant that I didn't feel comfortable playing a tank who's role was NOT to stick with and protect the team, but instead to go to the enemy and disrupt them. Whenever I played Wrecking Ball before, I always knew there was a second tank backing them up with more direct support while I was rolling around through the enemy lines and disrupting them- but not anymore.
Ruined the game for me. Completely.
It's still completely insane to me that Overwatch 2 isn't even really Overwatch 2; it's just a drastic overhaul of Overwatch. It patched over Overwatch; Overwatch 1 does not exist anymore. You cannot go back and play it if you preferred 6v6 and it's pool of heroes and their balancing. There was a game, that I really liked, that I played a lot of, that had it's problems but that I still ultimately enjoyed, that me and my friends enjoyed... and it's just gone. Completely gone, due to corporate mismanagement and greed.
It's sad.
This is one of the most well edited videos I've seen in a long while. Didn't even intend to watch this whole thing but I'm glad I did. Great work man
I wanna see this shit blow the fuck up, streamers need to see this, you put amazing effort into this and spoke on so much. I promise this'll get up to a million soon.
As someone who played overwatch since beta, I don't know whether to cheer or cry at it's death.
I played Overwatch for many years, nearly everyday I remember and loved it, but with each detail that came out for “2” I felt more and more distance between me and the game. As a console player I had to shell out $40 dollars to play the beta and when the game actually came out I played for a week and dropped it.
I hate battlepasses, I missed the story and chose to drop it until the story mode would come out, and well I’ll never touched it again. I won’t pay for the story bits and I bet if I ever did come back my “free second battle pass” would probably of been used without ever touching it. Most of my merchandise is gone or I’m trying to sell it. So this is my finally goodbye to the game.
I’m the guy at 0:24 lol
Huge fan of your content man kinda blows he didn’t give you credit
that's awesome
and? you are just a weak/meh streamer XD
@@tarantulatar1410 for his video clip no need to insult like that
👍
as a person who has been playing Overwatch since the very beginning, I can say that I am terribly disappointed by so many things that were promised and not fulfilled. there are more microtransactions in the game than content. it's not what it used to be. Good old overwatch 1
Only 2 trash support characters this whole year it’s a joke. And their character design is shit and is worse quality than every other hero before. They look like bad fan made heros.
19:23 I love shigechi’s death theme being used here
Man, I remember when in 2017 I bought ov 1 and I just had the best time with my friends all day, we got exited every time there was an update or an event, I had motivation to play because I would get lootboxes, but mostly for the fun of playing the game. Honestly, I cried when ov 1 got shut down and changed to ov2. Literally all my memories, the funny moments with my friends, everything gone to sh*t. I played ov 2 for a few days, then never played again. It was my fav game, I had 500+ hr on that game. All for nothing.
Pd: at least I have the good memories.❤
That final part at the end to the game devs really put a smile on my face because they are usually the ones being harassed for the fuck ups made by the higher ups so I’m happy they are getting the recognition they deserve
I don't understand people that blame higher ups for incompetent coders. For three years, devs sat there doing absolutely nothing. No exec is dumb enough to say "Okay, so we will promise them PvE, however, DO NOT WORK ON IT, all '2' has to do is just have battlepass instead of lootboxes". I could understand if deadlines were super tight, but 3 years when games like Elden Ring took only 4? That's bullshit. I hate suits very much, because I get treated like a slave by my own higher ups, but blaming them for things they clearly had no idea about and no input is dumb.
@@Kkk-pr2bk It seems more like a problem of mismanagement. To get into these positions at Blizzard you have to be a talented and hard-working person. There's no reason devs would just spontaneously become lazy.
They were probably given mixed goals and had poor direction. It makes sense when you think about both the Overwatch Director leaving and the incredible amount of aspirations they had for the game. The directors and producers probably decided a new gamemode or feature was the "next big thing" every 2 months, when each of these features took way longer to implement.
But then again, I'm just speculating.
@@Kkk-pr2bk Lmao, you clearly never met some of the stupider suits. Sure they may not outright say, don't work on it, but in practice their demands and the resources they give don't allow to produce anything of quality.
this is such a well edited video. as a person who does not really mess with ow2, i still felt the abandonment. 10/10 blizzard is like my dad who promised to buy milk many years ago and then never returned. also your effort, edits and research in this video deserve more subscribers! Hope to see your channel grow.
I just spent 21 minutes eating while this dude told me the whole overwatch story, loved it ❤
The nail in the coffin for me was the monetization.
I was one of the people warning everyone about complaining about Overwatch’s loot box system. It wasn’t nearly as bad as everyone assumes but it was dragged into the light because someone (*cough cough* Stars Wars Battlefront 2 *cough*) tried to nickel and dime their consumers with it. Lootboxes in Overwatch we’re actually pretty easy to get. Either level up or win arcade games. That easy, with enough of a gap to keep players playing. But everyone complained, I warned that they would replace it with something worse and was literally told “What could be worse than this?”
I was wearing the SMUGGEST look on my face when the battle pass was revealed and it showed heroes behind a paywall as well has skins.
If you ask me, Blizzard only rushed Overwatch 2 (and in turn replacing Loot Boxes with Battle Passes and the Item Shop) out the door because they didn't want to deal with legal trouble seeing as Loot Boxes were widely being branded as Online Gambling (and rightfully so).
As a result, Overwatch 2 became yet another pay-to-win Freemium cashgrab in a market over-saturated with them.
I swear, Jeff Kaplan saw the writing on the wall and jumped ship before it could drag him down with it.
@@sooperdude22 if they wanted to appease the legal wave. They should have kept the loot boxes, but not have consumers pay for lootboxes. Have them pay for the skins directly if they want to skip the trouble.
holy shit?? I watched this whole thing and was expected way more than 500 views. deserves so much more ❤️ I appreciate this perspective so much as someone who only started playing in ow2
thanks for the kind words :) i hope you're having fun in ow2 so far, even after all of this, it's core gameplay is still honestly not bad
@@silvamlon WAIT WTF WHY IS YOUR CHANNEL SO SMALL?? subbing rn you do not deserve this few subs with the effort you put in. i expected you to be like emong level big or something.
@@AltairEnzeno thanks for the kind words! hopefully one day i'll be on the same level as those guys...