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I really like that you can do some plug and play stuff like turn off fake engine noise with some of these programs. More practical than a delete or some jank rewiring stuff especially on a car with CANBUS.
Boost threshold launched me onto a roundabout much quicker than I was used to when I test drove my current and first turbo car 😂 it was steady, steady , then... Whoosh.
Haha I came at this from the perspective of ''wanting'' the whoosh - but I can imagine it would take you by surprise if you didn't ''want'' or expect it :D
@@MickDrivesCars oh I like it and use it now. Just took some getting used to. It's only a fiesta ecoboost but it's got a surprising amount of poke for what it is
I still remember when I first got my WRX, I was driving home and I think the boost kicked in right as I was making a turn. Always happens when I want to pass someone quick but I wind up finishing the move right as that rush of power comes in :(
The fact that you actually put the video you mentioned earns my subscribe. A lot of people don't do that. Your information is absolutely wonderful. Please keep doing what you do!
Totally agree, I'm a huge car enthusiast and still learning to drive :) I have had the same experience quite a few times. The car I am usually driving is a Mazda 3, 2.0L, N/A, i4. Whereas the car my grandma owns is a Skoda Fabia. A tiny little engine at 1.8L i4 though it is TURBO!! As my grandma is quite the enthusiast herself, she does let me have fun in the car and I most find the boost most abbrupt in a corner of in intersection. Generally taking off from the lights. In the Mazda it is always a sort of tourqy but very linear curve of power, easy to control and understand. Though in the Skoda, if I'm pressing my foot down quite heavy then it takes a corner and then WHAM! Boost kicks in. Now it isnt any 40PSI monster, though feeling the car jump foward and the turbo actually doing its job always puts a smile on my face. I also found what you said to be very true, the boost threshold begins so low in the rev range it is always shocking! Thanks for the video and congrats of the 100K!
The current G87 is the best muscel/sports car BMW is building at the moment. I was a bit skeptical about the design at first, but I like it more and more... but only in black. Nevertheless, the F87 remains my favorite. If I did want to part with the MX-5 at some point and really wanted to buy a BMW, it would be an E85 3.0i and of course a manual. But before that would happen, I would rather do a budget turbo conversion on my MX-5 and that's why I'm watching this video.
I've seen them in real life in all colours now and they've all looked better than the photos. I saw the darker red colour on the road for the first time a few days ago and it actually looked fantastic. But yeah - black's #1. Put a baby snail on the mx-5 and you'll have no problems with lag. Go too big and you'll only have yourself to blame :)
The Mercedes A45S has a twin scroll turbo and it’s very much drives like a naturally aspirated car. Perhaps the older W176 but certainly not the W177. Anyway, another great video and congrats on the 100k.👍
Just got my first hot hatch (focus st). This channel is what I need to learn how to drive this car properly now. Been driving for 10 years but don't know how to drive "properly" yet 😂
when i was 17 i used to “steal” and drive my dads car in the neighborhood when he wouldn’t notice/not at home. i’d just put it in sports mode and jerk the pedal since i was afraid to go fast. one time i got the courage and i kicked it, it didn’t even break traction, until the turbo kicked in and me losing control of the car just doing a small skid. never touched the sport mode selector until i got my license 😂
The first time Ive ever felt a sponsors product! What god given gift to all beemer drivers to disable the artificially created speaker engine noise! Really enjoyed your video!
I’ve a diesel with a VGT turbo and the turbo is loud, I can hear when it’s got the boost and I can feel it under the throttle, when it’s got the boost ready to go just a little bit of throttle and it’ll be taking off quicker than it would in a lower gear.
Again a nice and important video you made. I wish I did not have to learn most of things you talk about myself or through lot of times. Cause yeah I pretty much know all of it now, but it was hard earned knowledge with some mistakes in between, and you have laid out for newer drivers ( and some tips for advanced too ) everything so perfectly its beauty to watch.
i needed this video and you uploaded it at the right time. i drove a turbo car for the first time recently. i drive a 1l NA but this car that i drove was a 1l turbo. This car performs excellently above 3,000 RPM, but its performance is notably poor below that threshold. my car has much better performance in the 2k - 3k band so i was a little dissapointed with the turbo lag. but now i understand that driving habits need to adapt with the car not the other way.
Huge congrats on the channel milestone mate!! Very very well deserved. One question I had was about whether this car is overkill for UK roads? I rented an M2 G87 on a road trip through Europe and it only felt like I could truly push the car to its limits on the German autobahn (getting up to 150mph and above!) I know we have nice B roads in the UK but it just feels like you can lose your license way too easily in a full fat M car…! Any thoughts from yourself or any other viewers would be great!
Thank you! I'm in two minds... 1) yes it's too much for the road. Many, many, many times I put my foot down and do a speed I can't show 2) god it's fun though. And if you use that power to unstick the back end you can have a lot of fun without actually going fast I'm working on a full review which will cover this and more
Hi mick slightly unrelated; believe you had said before you haven’t done any advanced driving courses. I’d be very interested interested in your experience with an advanced driving course if this would be something you would be keen to document? Love the vids
Bingwatched most of your vids when I subscribed. Only downside to that is now I can't remember which vid was the one that got me hooked, but who cares! 😂 May the NOPE be with you!
I'm still working on my very large in-depth review which will cover this Yes and no... some are great, some are terrible. The S58 engine in this car is know to be quite reliable as it's based on the B58 which is legendarily reliable.
Please explain the difference between turbo lag and throttle response. This is theoretical in my head but given 2 of the exact same engines where only 1 has a turbo on it, I would think that the actual throttle response is the same the only difference being power curve is larger on the turbocharger. Is this correct? Or no. If not please explain.
I have been trying to understand turbo lag from the driver's perspective; it is easy enough to understand from the engineer's POV. I'm excited to see if I can find these things in my own car!
now i have a doubt. does keeping the car in the right rev range for the boost threshold decrease fuel efficiency? how does one eco-drive in a turbo car and zip past the traffic occasionally too.
I don't know what this means "Lower end traction" doesn't make sense at all "Mid range" of an engine would be the amount of power it makes in the middle of the rev range... I think
I wonder something, because this is my situation. My parking lot is a slope, where I park my car using reverse gear (the trunk is on higher elevation than the bonnet). My car is NA, and due to the slope, I need to rev my car around 2000RPM in order for it to climb backwards in the final 80cm distance. Even with NA, the RPM spike to climb feels like jolt that want to launch the car backwards into the wall (I need to hit brake ASAP when the launch happend) My question being: in turbocharged car with low RPM threshold, how do you manage to only climb but brake in short moment. Does the jolt from a turbo is really a strong launch that has potential to overshoot the distance?
Do the same in an Audi A8L you will notice the 0.5 to 1s turbo lag. It is an apparent problem, just not as significant as people think. And sometimes it is also related to the gearbox, get a CVT natural aspiration old Audi A6, and compare it with a 6AT 6 cylinder natural aspiration other car, you will also notice the CVT responds faster than 6 AT
BMW 330E is probably one of the best cars that doesnt have turbo lag as the electric motor assists it till the turbo also kicks in.The car is best of both world electric and petrol.Don't really see whats the point of going electric when cars like 330e makes so much sense as it also does around most peoples daily comutes on electric.
Yes but then it's heavier because it's carrying both drivetrains... So you don't get the best economy in pure EV or pure ICE But for mixed use, I agree. Brilliant. Similar to the E-evt hybrid Corolla
I am 19 and never been tough how to drive and have no money. I can’t afford driving lessons, can you do basic things to help me please. I need a car for my age
Beat shout is if possible later on in the day go to a empty car park with parents, learn with them their not always the best teachers so you need to be patient. Common mentality is being scared too, so learn the car stall it a few times on purpose see what happens when you break to stop no clutch etc. And instead of a fear of unknown you’ll gain more confidence as you know nothing really bad is happening.
If you really don’t want to do lessons and in the uk, get a provisional and learner insurance it will let you drive a car on the road in the presence of a 21+ year old. That will give you much more needed experience required for the driving rest as you can learn driver behaviours in a empty car park. If you have a older person which wants to help you it’s possible to pass your test with 0 lessons. Just learn what’s on the test and focus the most important things when out on the road when you get comfortable just driving normally. Hope this helps
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I really like that you can do some plug and play stuff like turn off fake engine noise with some of these programs. More practical than a delete or some jank rewiring stuff especially on a car with CANBUS.
Boost threshold launched me onto a roundabout much quicker than I was used to when I test drove my current and first turbo car 😂 it was steady, steady , then... Whoosh.
Haha I came at this from the perspective of ''wanting'' the whoosh - but I can imagine it would take you by surprise if you didn't ''want'' or expect it :D
@@MickDrivesCars oh I like it and use it now. Just took some getting used to. It's only a fiesta ecoboost but it's got a surprising amount of poke for what it is
I still remember when I first got my WRX, I was driving home and I think the boost kicked in right as I was making a turn. Always happens when I want to pass someone quick but I wind up finishing the move right as that rush of power comes in :(
Well deserved 100k subs man! It really is quite easy to binge your vids :)
Haha thank you! Love to hear it
The fact that you actually put the video you mentioned earns my subscribe. A lot of people don't do that. Your information is absolutely wonderful. Please keep doing what you do!
Totally agree, I'm a huge car enthusiast and still learning to drive :) I have had the same experience quite a few times. The car I am usually driving is a Mazda 3, 2.0L, N/A, i4. Whereas the car my grandma owns is a Skoda Fabia. A tiny little engine at 1.8L i4 though it is TURBO!!
As my grandma is quite the enthusiast herself, she does let me have fun in the car and I most find the boost most abbrupt in a corner of in intersection. Generally taking off from the lights.
In the Mazda it is always a sort of tourqy but very linear curve of power, easy to control and understand. Though in the Skoda, if I'm pressing my foot down quite heavy then it takes a corner and then WHAM! Boost kicks in.
Now it isnt any 40PSI monster, though feeling the car jump foward and the turbo actually doing its job always puts a smile on my face. I also found what you said to be very true, the boost threshold begins so low in the rev range it is always shocking!
Thanks for the video and congrats of the 100K!
The current G87 is the best muscel/sports car BMW is building at the moment. I was a bit skeptical about the design at first, but I like it more and more... but only in black. Nevertheless, the F87 remains my favorite. If I did want to part with the MX-5 at some point and really wanted to buy a BMW, it would be an E85 3.0i and of course a manual.
But before that would happen, I would rather do a budget turbo conversion on my MX-5 and that's why I'm watching this video.
I've seen them in real life in all colours now and they've all looked better than the photos. I saw the darker red colour on the road for the first time a few days ago and it actually looked fantastic. But yeah - black's #1.
Put a baby snail on the mx-5 and you'll have no problems with lag. Go too big and you'll only have yourself to blame :)
turbos are addictive. I don't think i'd ever want to own a NA car but I haven't driven one yet.
Hey bro, great videos honestly you are a pleasure to listen to..
I would appreciate a video on how to navigate sharp corners whilst driving fast
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Case in point something like this. What exactly went wrong? Did he break too hard
The Mercedes A45S has a twin scroll turbo and it’s very much drives like a naturally aspirated car. Perhaps the older W176 but certainly not the W177. Anyway, another great video and congrats on the 100k.👍
I've never driven a A45S but the A45 I drove needed a lot of holding the throttle down to spool the turbo
Really appreciate the kind words tho ♥️
Just got my first hot hatch (focus st). This channel is what I need to learn how to drive this car properly now. Been driving for 10 years but don't know how to drive "properly" yet 😂
when i was 17 i used to “steal” and drive my dads car in the neighborhood when he wouldn’t notice/not at home. i’d just put it in sports mode and jerk the pedal since i was afraid to go fast. one time i got the courage and i kicked it, it didn’t even break traction, until the turbo kicked in and me losing control of the car just doing a small skid. never touched the sport mode selector until i got my license 😂
What car?
@@hamidsafdar1219 bmw 1 series i don’t remember the exact model
I used to have a golf gti 7.5, the turbos spooling 1500-2000rpm. I have a golf r 7.5 now and it’s a larger turbo, so spools in a higher rev range.
Well deserved. Looking forward for the million🎉.
The first time Ive ever felt a sponsors product! What god given gift to all beemer drivers to disable the artificially created speaker engine noise! Really enjoyed your video!
I’ve a diesel with a VGT turbo and the turbo is loud, I can hear when it’s got the boost and I can feel it under the throttle, when it’s got the boost ready to go just a little bit of throttle and it’ll be taking off quicker than it would in a lower gear.
Well deserved mate! Congrats on the 100k
Thank you!
Again a nice and important video you made. I wish I did not have to learn most of things you talk about myself or through lot of times. Cause yeah I pretty much know all of it now, but it was hard earned knowledge with some mistakes in between, and you have laid out for newer drivers ( and some tips for advanced too ) everything so perfectly its beauty to watch.
i needed this video and you uploaded it at the right time. i drove a turbo car for the first time recently. i drive a 1l NA but this car that i drove was a 1l turbo. This car performs excellently above 3,000 RPM, but its performance is notably poor below that threshold. my car has much better performance in the 2k - 3k band so i was a little dissapointed with the turbo lag. but now i understand that driving habits need to adapt with the car not the other way.
Love to hear it!
This right here is why I make videos ♥️
Congrats on the 116k+ subscribers and to many more!
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Huge congrats on the channel milestone mate!! Very very well deserved.
One question I had was about whether this car is overkill for UK roads? I rented an M2 G87 on a road trip through Europe and it only felt like I could truly push the car to its limits on the German autobahn (getting up to 150mph and above!)
I know we have nice B roads in the UK but it just feels like you can lose your license way too easily in a full fat M car…!
Any thoughts from yourself or any other viewers would be great!
Thank you!
I'm in two minds...
1) yes it's too much for the road. Many, many, many times I put my foot down and do a speed I can't show
2) god it's fun though. And if you use that power to unstick the back end you can have a lot of fun without actually going fast
I'm working on a full review which will cover this and more
@@MickDrivesCars That's so helpful, thanks mate. I think that would be a great video! Looking forward to it!
It is a monster of a car no doubt haha
No mick, we appreciate you. Thank you for making us good drivers. Genuinely happy for your silver tier youtuber
My heart has been warmed. Thank you :)
Shout out to that play button was a jump scare for me xd well done man
Congrats on 100k Mick :)
congrats on 100k and thanks for teaching me its ok to treat my car so nasty x
Congratulations Mick!👍
Actually learned something really cool here thanksss
Congrats and good video as always
Thanks!
bro continue like this you make very nice videos (;
Thank you!
Well done bro
Hi mick slightly unrelated; believe you had said before you haven’t done any advanced driving courses. I’d be very interested interested in your experience with an advanced driving course if this would be something you would be keen to document? Love the vids
Congrats mate on 100k! I 👍👍
Thank you sir!
Congrats on the youtube play button!
Let's go!
Bingwatched most of your vids when I subscribed. Only downside to that is now I can't remember which vid was the one that got me hooked, but who cares! 😂 May the NOPE be with you!
Just made my day dude! The number on the screen can keep going up but it's people leaving comments like this that make me continue making videos
Hi! Can you please explain why you should/should not turn off traction control when doing some "spirited" driving? Thank you!
good tip
Make a video on cost of maintenance and ownership for this car. Also, are bimmers reliable?
I'm still working on my very large in-depth review which will cover this
Yes and no... some are great, some are terrible. The S58 engine in this car is know to be quite reliable as it's based on the B58 which is legendarily reliable.
Wait a minute when you said you were going to keep the fake sound off for the rest of the video,will you turn it on 😂 after the vid is over
Hahahaha nice catch! I actually like the fake sound :)
Congrats on 100k brother....
Thank you 🙌
1:02 pointing at your displays at 60 mph controling wobble one handed with eyes off the road aint a good look bro
Please explain the difference between turbo lag and throttle response. This is theoretical in my head but given 2 of the exact same engines where only 1 has a turbo on it, I would think that the actual throttle response is the same the only difference being power curve is larger on the turbocharger. Is this correct? Or no. If not please explain.
Question: what are your three favourite cars
Side note: love your work❤
R34 GTR
997.2 911
Lotus Elise
Hi Mike
What camera do you use to film from. IS it spectacle camera?
Please send me a link to buy
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I have been trying to understand turbo lag from the driver's perspective; it is easy enough to understand from the engineer's POV. I'm excited to see if I can find these things in my own car!
Mick basically saying it's a skill issue 😂
Edit: Gud vid doh. Like always.
Hahahaha it's genuinely funny how many of my videos can be summarised to ''skill issue'' :)
You deserve it mate, congrats👏🎉🥳 and thank you for sharing your knowledge about cars. Can't wait for more to come🫡
Watching this for my 1L skoda fabia 😭
now i have a doubt. does keeping the car in the right rev range for the boost threshold decrease fuel efficiency? how does one eco-drive in a turbo car and zip past the traffic occasionally too.
Driving at higher gears and only droppping gears before putting the foot down to overtake
Of course!
If you want fuel economy, never spin up the turbo.
I have a video about all the eco-driving tips :)
Bro whats lower end traction and Mid-range of a engine pls explain
I don't know what this means
"Lower end traction" doesn't make sense at all
"Mid range" of an engine would be the amount of power it makes in the middle of the rev range... I think
@@MickDrivesCars okk. Bro thank you
I wonder something, because this is my situation.
My parking lot is a slope, where I park my car using reverse gear (the trunk is on higher elevation than the bonnet). My car is NA, and due to the slope, I need to rev my car around 2000RPM in order for it to climb backwards in the final 80cm distance. Even with NA, the RPM spike to climb feels like jolt that want to launch the car backwards into the wall (I need to hit brake ASAP when the launch happend)
My question being: in turbocharged car with low RPM threshold, how do you manage to only climb but brake in short moment. Does the jolt from a turbo is really a strong launch that has potential to overshoot the distance?
It looks like a 1-2 second delay for boost to build
Do the same in an Audi A8L you will notice the 0.5 to 1s turbo lag. It is an apparent problem, just not as significant as people think. And sometimes it is also related to the gearbox, get a CVT natural aspiration old Audi A6, and compare it with a 6AT 6 cylinder natural aspiration other car, you will also notice the CVT responds faster than 6 AT
Congrats on 100k subs 😉 I am one of them 😂❤
Thank you mate :)
BMW 330E is probably one of the best cars that doesnt have turbo lag as the electric motor assists it till the turbo also kicks in.The car is best of both world electric and petrol.Don't really see whats the point of going electric when cars like 330e makes so much sense as it also does around most peoples daily comutes on electric.
Yes but then it's heavier because it's carrying both drivetrains... So you don't get the best economy in pure EV or pure ICE
But for mixed use, I agree. Brilliant. Similar to the E-evt hybrid Corolla
Mustang > M2
We cant even read the display your distracting yourself with, so it dont help you or us, cropping and using on-screen arrows woud be effective
It has a lot of lag under 3000 rpm, at 2000 rpm the engine is dead.
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I am 19 and never been tough how to drive and have no money. I can’t afford driving lessons, can you do basic things to help me please. I need a car for my age
Beat shout is if possible later on in the day go to a empty car park with parents, learn with them their not always the best teachers so you need to be patient. Common mentality is being scared too, so learn the car stall it a few times on purpose see what happens when you break to stop no clutch etc. And instead of a fear of unknown you’ll gain more confidence as you know nothing really bad is happening.
If you really don’t want to do lessons and in the uk, get a provisional and learner insurance it will let you drive a car on the road in the presence of a 21+ year old. That will give you much more needed experience required for the driving rest as you can learn driver behaviours in a empty car park. If you have a older person which wants to help you it’s possible to pass your test with 0 lessons. Just learn what’s on the test and focus the most important things when out on the road when you get comfortable just driving normally. Hope this helps
Is anything what we think... Lol