How To Drive Powerful Rear Wheel Drive Cars

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  • Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
  • Are you feeling a bit apprehensive about getting behind the wheel of your first powerful rear-wheel drive (RWD) car? Don't worry, I've got you covered! In this video, I'll guide you through everything you need to know to confidently drive and enjoy your RWD car to the fullest.
    Topics Covered:
    🚗 Overcoming Initial Worries: I'll address common concerns and fears many drivers have when transitioning to a powerful RWD car. Understanding the dynamics of rear-wheel drive is crucial for a smooth start.
    ⚙️ Traction Control Basics: Learn how traction control can make your driving experience safer and more manageable. I'll explain how traction control systems work and why they're beneficial, especially if you're new to RWD vehicles.
    🏁 Advanced Driving Techniques: Discover when and how to turn off traction control for a more exhilarating and fast driving experience. I'll show you the ropes on how to safely push your car to its limits.
    💡 Mastering Slides: I'll teach you the fundamentals of controlling slides and managing the power of your RWD car, so you can drive with confidence and skill. Knowing how to handle oversteer and understeer is key to mastering rear-wheel drive cars.
    Whether you're a novice or looking to sharpen your driving skills, this video is packed with practical tips and expert advice to help you become a master of your powerful RWD car
    00:00 Things to think about
    01:30 Traction control ON
    05:30 Traction control OFF
    11:58 Conclusions
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Комментарии • 285

  • @JKiowa325
    @JKiowa325 21 день назад +426

    “I don’t know what i’m doing and i didn’t die, which is quite nice 😊 “
    -Mick 2024

  • @antazur3983
    @antazur3983 21 день назад +855

    Me enjoying the video while driving a 100hp fwd

    • @JKiowa325
      @JKiowa325 21 день назад +29

      Man my first car was a 2009 mitsubishi eclipse spyder with fwd. i loved that thing. there’s a lot of enjoyment in less powerful cars that you can have

    • @metal_anomaly
      @metal_anomaly 20 дней назад +8

      I drive a '18 fiesta 1.6 I4, it's got a little more than 100hp and it's fwd, but the feel of that car is unbelievable for a "normal" car. Don't know if it's just the i4 1.6 non-ST version, but the liftoff oversteer and driver feel is amazing, extraordinarily fun when you learn how to push it the right way

    • @robski.p3139
      @robski.p3139 19 дней назад +6

      I drive a focus ST3 250bhp fwd and they have 2 traction control settings 1 keeps on stability and the second completely turns everything assistance wise completely off, most written off ST'S have traction completely off

    • @anuneu4722
      @anuneu4722 19 дней назад +2

      Hahaha mine is a 72 bhp Renault Megan

    • @edwardkim2179
      @edwardkim2179 19 дней назад +2

      My Poverty spec 5series approves this

  • @illuminate4
    @illuminate4 17 дней назад +202

    10:51
    **explains dangerous thing that can happen when driving**
    "I shall demonstrate"
    this is the most english thing I've seen and I love it.

  • @SatanDotExe
    @SatanDotExe 22 дня назад +255

    Another thing to keep in mind is that no traction control system can save you if you're really stupid, especially in bad conditions.

    • @BySixa
      @BySixa 21 день назад +3

      I'd caveat this by saying modern traction control systems. The early tech was pretty dreadful

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +62

      I think it can save you from any rear-end slip...
      It can't save you from entering a corner too fast or something like that though

    • @SatanDotExe
      @SatanDotExe 19 дней назад +3

      @@MickDrivesCars It depends on the car, but yeah most modern cars are great for that. Older TC open differential cars can be very sketchy in the wet.

    • @aok9153
      @aok9153 17 дней назад

      @@BySixa My 2006 superb would not let me understeer under throttle, or oversteer at all. Even in a older car you have to really be stupid
      I tested it by rapidly steering left to right in the snow to induce oversteer at about 40mph. It just used the brakes to not let me, i had to go pretty fast and be really agressive to get it to slide with traction on
      Now i have an e46, so traction is mostly off. But i tested that too in the snow, and anybody could drive it

    • @sgeertt4724
      @sgeertt4724 17 дней назад +8

      traction control is litterally a life saver. Ive lost traction at 80mph in the rain on MDM traction mode in my g80 m3 comp rwd and I went left, then right, then left, then right, then back to the middle all while keeping it in lane going 45 degrees sideways each time. Had I had DSC off I wouldve been sideways into the wall at 80 mph in the rain. Had I had full TC on I wouldnt have even began spinning at all.

  • @Sir-Prizse
    @Sir-Prizse 21 день назад +90

    It's really hard to kick out the rear of an stock MX-5, because modern UHP tyres have become extremely good and the 110 horses aren't enough to brake traction. The most "dangerous" thing you can do in an MX-5 is to abruptly take your foot off the gas when cornering fast.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +14

      Very true

    • @energeticpencil2645
      @energeticpencil2645 18 дней назад

      Get a mk3

    • @Sir-Prizse
      @Sir-Prizse 18 дней назад

      @@energeticpencil2645 Why? 😅

    • @CivicMikey
      @CivicMikey 18 дней назад +1

      Mk3 with BBR Stage Two - 308bhp. Even the traction control struggles. Lifted off by accident when an Amazon van pulled out on me .. was sideways for a moment ..

    • @benjaminwiner6220
      @benjaminwiner6220 17 дней назад

      Short wheelbase also helps

  • @johny79action
    @johny79action 19 дней назад +41

    I REALLY appreciate you staying on your lane as that is my biggest pet peeve, if people want to drive spirited then STAY IN YOUR LANE. Awesome video dude and nice to see a BMW driver indicating ;).

    • @syd9969
      @syd9969 18 дней назад +8

      I mean, road positioning can include going into the opposing lane Aslong as you can clearly see ahead. If it’s a blind corner that’s just stupid for obvious reasons. But for certain country roads that don’t even have centre line markings it can be better for your corner exit to enter on the opposing side of the road. You just need to know what you are doing though, be respectful and know the road.

    • @johny79action
      @johny79action 18 дней назад +2

      @syd9969 I respect people who stay on their side of the road as I consider them safer and more controlled drivers that can drive fast without needing to risk crossing the line, nearly been hit by bikers and cars plus yesterday a 7.5t lorry that came round a blind corner on my side of the road on a national speed limit road nearly unalived me.

    • @syd9969
      @syd9969 18 дней назад +4

      @@johny79action yeh, like I said though, obviously doing that on blind corners is really stupid, irresponsible and is unskilled, so I do agree. Just certain corners that you get to know can be entered on the other side of the road for a cleaner exit. It’s hard to explain without an example but I never do go on the opposing lane in roads I don’t know unless you can clearly see everything ahead of you on an S shaped corner

    • @HaiRune
      @HaiRune 17 дней назад +3

      @@syd9969Don’t worry I get you. It’s basic physics that you can cut a turn at higher speeds than doing a heavy angle turn

  • @pitxirin
    @pitxirin 22 дня назад +136

    plsss take that car to a track!!!

  • @askevl
    @askevl 10 дней назад +2

    I'm so glad this video randomly came up on my feed, just bought a manual 617HP supercharged E90 M3 after owning a 230 HP automatic E46.... And it's my first time ever driving manual...

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  9 дней назад

      Let's go! Be careful, sensible and have a ton of fun at the right time mate. You're going to love it.

  • @zolloz235
    @zolloz235 12 минут назад

    Amazing video. I wish I seen this last year. Exactly a year ago I got an M4 Comp for the weekend and that was one of my first experiences in an RWD based car. I felt really confident in MDM mode so I switched off every aid and went for it. It was all good for an hour but as you just said, it caught me off guard for a second and the back end broke loose out of a roundabout. I ended up in a wheat field. I didnt have enough experience and these advices are amazing for that. Thanks for the video mate.

  • @Benja_delmi
    @Benja_delmi 22 дня назад +1

    can't believe i'm so early, love your videos mick ❤ they help a lot!

  • @Loiiiiiiiiiii
    @Loiiiiiiiiiii 13 часов назад

    Perfect timing as I’ve just picked up a 2021 c63s coupe and SHIT SCARED driving this thing in the slightest of wet conditions. Car is super slippery on any moisture whatsoever
    Great video

  • @gordonstenson2708
    @gordonstenson2708 12 дней назад

    Great execution and great drive done with safety always considered. Keep them coming Mick.

  • @LordBooks80s
    @LordBooks80s 19 дней назад +5

    This is all very nice and useful, and I'm going to start applying it immediately to my Toyota Corolla daily driving. Thanks, mate!

    • @x_xdante4400
      @x_xdante4400 17 дней назад

      here i am trying left foot brake in my 06 corrola 💀

  • @ItsCDB
    @ItsCDB 22 дня назад +26

    When I got my M235i I was incredibly surprised with how good traction control was... So much so I thought there was no way DSC off mode was much worse. Safe to say I was wrong 😂 lucky no problems and now I keep traction on at all times

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +4

      Haha yeah, you have to feel the difference to understand it

  • @ThumperBros
    @ThumperBros 11 дней назад +2

    My very first fast car is a nissan silvia s15 (440whp) and weighs only 1250kg...no traction control etc. Only abs which seems to be disabled now after putting in a 1.5 way nismo lsd.
    I only drive it in the dry but can easily get it sideways. Makes me nervous every time I get in it but its a proper drivers car and I love it.

    • @soundrunner2736
      @soundrunner2736 10 дней назад

      Jeez, that insane tbh

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  9 дней назад +1

      When I got the M2 I actually SERIOUSLY considered this exact car. There was an S15 with ~400bhp and all the right mods for sale near me. I wanted to get that+a boring daily.
      Unfortunately I live in the UK and the car would just rust away so in the end I didn't do it.
      One day,

    • @e34borz
      @e34borz 7 дней назад

      Same here. But i have twice less power and twice worse tires :)

  • @troublegamingclips1059
    @troublegamingclips1059 9 дней назад +1

    Subscribed! very impressed with your style of video... Kinda confirm what I already knew, but as someone whos never driven rear wheel, reassuring! Getting my X3M comp next month!!

  • @edygk20kstm64
    @edygk20kstm64 День назад

    Bro , cool clip and the best thing about this video is at the end when you said go and practice, that's actually the most important bit ..take you rwd to track and practice as much as you can until you are confident and then all the fear goes away and you're in control..I got a 2014 Shelby GT500 and if you don't drive easy and practice until you can drive the way you want disaster can easily happen..mine for ex tc is just cutting the power off completely and if you don't know what's going on the majority will panick and lose control, with tc off the advanced tc is still on but (at least in mine ) if you keep the tc button pressed for.7-8.seconds it wil disable everything so it will be just you and the V8 , that's where the true skill comes in play that you'll have to train for if you want to be a badass rwd..best of all to you and everyone and drive safe .

  • @milchomilchev853
    @milchomilchev853 14 дней назад +6

    I think you should've pointed out the difference between ESC and Traction control, because half of the time you actually meant ESC and not traction control.

  • @aahilshahpurwala1704
    @aahilshahpurwala1704 22 дня назад +8

    I was just watching all your educational videos to become a better driver. What a coincidence that when I finish all your old ones you post a new one

    • @alivekicking6247
      @alivekicking6247 21 день назад +3

      Don't.
      This guy hasn't got a clue

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +1

      Haha 😎

    • @alivekicking6247
      @alivekicking6247 21 день назад +2

      @MickDrivesCars these are not educational driving videos; they're more like, "Mick talks out loud his thoughts whilst driving."
      Problem is, you're not qualified or experienced enough to be telling people how to drive, and I'm horrified to see people commenting like this.

    • @user-cz9zn6zq6w
      @user-cz9zn6zq6w 21 день назад +4

      @@alivekicking6247 bro is mad for no reason

    • @alivekicking6247
      @alivekicking6247 21 день назад +2

      @user-cz9zn6zq6w very good reason: we've got someone here encouraging terrible driving and influencing inexperienced drivers with no caveat that he has absolutely zero fast road driving qualifications.
      He needs to stop telling people how to drive, "spiritly" as if he knows what he's talking about.
      The least he could do is confess he's not a trained fast driving instructor and that his audience should be aware.
      The mind boggles at what these videos are encouraging.
      This guy is NOT a fast road driving instructor, and has no place doing these videos to a young driver audience without any caveat: which is that he is not trained.
      And this latest video on rear drive cars is nonsense.
      I hope noone ends up dead or killing anyone else after watching these.

  • @hilly451
    @hilly451 14 дней назад +3

    My first rwd car was a GT86, such a fun car and safe due lack of power couldn't imagine what it would be like with more power 😂

  • @xandygameryt
    @xandygameryt 16 дней назад +6

    For some reason my mind can't process him driving in the left lanes because my brain is used to see me driving in the right lanes because of my country. Its a interesting feeling tbh.

  • @99minimev99
    @99minimev99 18 дней назад +17

    This is perfect for my Mustang GT as a very inexperienced RWD driver - thank you!

    • @static7985
      @static7985 14 дней назад +5

      the most important piece of advice i like to give to beginner mustang drivers is straighten out the car before hitting the throttle, and if you go sideways, let go of the throttle and let the steering wheel spin on its own

    • @99minimev99
      @99minimev99 14 дней назад

      @@static7985 thank you! Is it not wise to countersteer when lifting off the throttle then?

    • @static7985
      @static7985 13 дней назад +3

      @99minimev99 by letting go of the wheel when sliding the car will naturally countersteer for you. you never want to forcefully countersteer, that is going to lead to you spinning out completely.

    • @Alkize06
      @Alkize06 13 дней назад +2

      that's the thing that beginners don't get. and good thing you're smart enough to ask. the car is smarter than you think. let go of the steering wheel and let the car handle it, once its straight catch and DO NOT throttle. once you get good then you start practicing throttle control. Trust throttle control is better to have than counter steer cause without it there's no point of counter steer.

    • @99minimev99
      @99minimev99 13 дней назад +2

      Thank you both, obviously fingers crossed it doesn’t happen, but that bit of info might be the difference between causing a loss of control and a straightforward recovery of traction!

  • @jasonmcenroy1961
    @jasonmcenroy1961 21 день назад +7

    Just ordered a manual M3.. my first manual car! Super excited. Although my current daily is a huracan evo RWD, so I’m not overly concerned about handling the power 😜 Thanks for the video!

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +1

      Very nice!

    • @yesyes9943
      @yesyes9943 21 день назад +4

      Oh yeah for sure Jason

    • @mangolos
      @mangolos 17 дней назад +1

      lambo as a daily

    • @nadir7936
      @nadir7936 17 дней назад

      M3 with manual... I can't believe people are so backward and ridiculous.

    • @jasonmcenroy1961
      @jasonmcenroy1961 15 дней назад +1

      @@yesyes9943 lol I’ll post a vid of it for you if you want. I have a Tesla which was supposed to be my daily, but I never drive it because the Lambo is too much fun. And I decided to not care about resale

  • @Tibialstone7
    @Tibialstone7 22 дня назад

    My dream car ❤️ Thanks so much for this. Too many people mack cars like this because they don’t know how to adapt their driving if all they’ve known is FWD/AWD.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +2

      Wasn't that long ago I was throwing around an '03 Civic. You'll get there 👊

  • @JoaoMachado-kk9hc
    @JoaoMachado-kk9hc 16 дней назад

    I drive an E36 325tds with a retune, which really isn't that powerful but it is torquey, and what I tend to find is that if your car has a bit of weight (and an open diff), you'll have a fun skid if you pull limiter on 1st and 2nd gear, but the car reliably goes back into itself. I thought it would be a nightmare, but its a very enjoyable (and often, predictable) experience. You hear absolute horror stories of RWD cars, I think its a case of people just overhyping.
    As an added note, my Honda Civic taught me to love driving (and how to drive a slow car fast), but the E36 taught me to love the machine. I hope everyone finds a car that makes you feel like that!

  • @a2ashraf
    @a2ashraf 16 дней назад

    I have the same car, short shift install made it so much better!

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  15 дней назад +1

      Actually the #1 thing I'm considering

  • @Lord_Jin_Kazama
    @Lord_Jin_Kazama 16 дней назад +2

    I don't own a car and I found this video very entertaining to watch ❤

  • @edwardd0
    @edwardd0 16 дней назад +1

    very good video. just recently bought a 2020 f82 and was super worried about how to handle it. my first car which was the car before the f82 (2006 honda civic) was no where near the power of the bmw lol. glad i stumbled upon this video 👍🏼 respect, not fear

    • @e34borz
      @e34borz 7 дней назад +1

      Buy as a side car, drift beater an e46, or e36 with welded diff. Will help you a lot.
      I have e34 200hp with an lsd, Now I guess I can manage any rear wheel drive car. Cuz this beamer has enough power to kill me especially in a wet weather while overtaking.
      Also, do not turn off traction while in trafic, only at some parkings. 400hp in a such light car can do anything. Be careful

  • @tulmenkov
    @tulmenkov 10 дней назад

    Love the vid bro

  • @ark14700
    @ark14700 14 дней назад

    My car also has traction control. It's a 100hp FWD. It's designated as the "turn me off to make 1st gear smoother" button

  • @Hotpeppa666
    @Hotpeppa666 9 дней назад

    it also sharpens the throttle response :)

  • @jamessmith84240
    @jamessmith84240 21 день назад +4

    Great video. My M140i was / is my first RWD car and almost 3 years later I'm still alive. Touch wood. However, many years ago I did crash my girlfriend's MG TF when I learned the hard way of what not to do with RWD! I drive my M140i with the traction control on most of the time if I'm honest. It's completely stock so no LSD and I don't fancy finding the limits of it's open diff the hard way like i did with that MG 😂

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +1

      I really should have gone into the diff dilemma in the video
      I actually think that open diffs are a little more dangerous as they're unpredictable. With an LSD the car does the same thing every time and it's far easier to control.
      I'll drink to the fallen MG TF :)

    • @RELUERKRU
      @RELUERKRU 2 дня назад

      @@MickDrivesCarsOpen diff is scary…noticed that in my mx5 when it rained. It just broke out randomly and sometimes very unpredictable

  • @Fox1e
    @Fox1e 15 дней назад +1

    Ive never owned RWD till recently, when i got my self BMW E82 128i i was scared so much xD I thought it would step out all the time xD Its so scary when you never expirianced it.

  • @nd_sux
    @nd_sux 21 день назад +1

    An MX5 is definitely a good introduction to RWD😁

  • @Ashes225
    @Ashes225 22 дня назад +2

    Thank you very much for your effort
    We would like to see some drifting

  • @ethantownerr
    @ethantownerr 21 день назад

    sick video as always man, love the videos, and appreciated you telling people get an mx5 ;)

  • @llll22l
    @llll22l 7 дней назад

    I had a stage 1 120d for 4 years and now have a 2016 m135i I’ve had over a year and I don’t get how people spin them out within a couple months owning rwd you just gotta be brave and know what you’re doing if things don’t go your way knowing what your car is capable off, traction helps a lot but if you wanna have some fun turn dsc off🤣

  • @nerooc2578
    @nerooc2578 12 дней назад

    Great video Mick! By any chances, could You please share the gear You are filiming the POVs with and settings?
    I've seen the GoPro videos on your channel, but it seems the quality has very well improved since then :)
    I would be massively thankful, cheers!

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  9 дней назад

      Next week's video is actually a deep dive on exactly this!
      Highlights : I'm now using a DJI Action 4, 10-bit colour and a colour grade which lots of people have noticed and commented about!

  • @Ryan-cp4rh
    @Ryan-cp4rh 15 часов назад

    These cars have so much tech programmed into CPU to keep you from going sideways

  • @cookiemixboxset3357
    @cookiemixboxset3357 20 дней назад +1

    hiya mate. great vid as per usual. how long do we have to wait before a review on how you're enjoying the car? would love to hear how it compares to the joys of the megane! all the best

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  19 дней назад +1

      I'll be doing a full review 100%
      But there's too many things I want to do first! Next video is all about the manual :)

    • @cookiemixboxset3357
      @cookiemixboxset3357 19 дней назад

      @@MickDrivesCars sounds good man. thanks for the reply. take care and i'll be waiting for the next one :D

  • @DivadNoodeldehm-lz2gm
    @DivadNoodeldehm-lz2gm 15 дней назад +1

    Take it to a track day at a skid pad, and then a track day for real. You'll upgrade the limiting factor, driving skill.

  • @michaelcallummayaka
    @michaelcallummayaka 10 дней назад

    Very engaging video as always. I need to try such a powerful car, especially a manual. Can you get the bigger ones as manual or only the 2 series? Most I've driven is around 200-220 bhp. I enjoyed my 1999 BMW 323i which if it had traction control it was useless. I also had 225s on the front and 255s at the rear and remember practically floating down a motorway at high speed in the rain. Lots of fun. I learned to control RWDs in a CLK 320 that had the traction control fault so it had none. Floored it out of a junction like the one you showed and went sideways. But when TC is working on old Mercs it's actually quite good at keeping the car gripping. I'm yet to drive any more modern RWD, let alone a powerful one. I think the newest I've driven that had more than 200 bhp or close to it was a 2006 E320 CDI.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  9 дней назад

      You can get the M4 non-comp in manual I believe, but that's the biggest.
      To be fair this gen of M2 is a LARGE car :)

  • @AL.farmlife
    @AL.farmlife 16 дней назад

    my favorite car ❤

  • @kyranthez927
    @kyranthez927 21 день назад +2

    7:43 this is called snap - oversteer

  • @Maxaker
    @Maxaker 16 дней назад

    10/10 video

  • @alirezaakbari5690
    @alirezaakbari5690 21 день назад

    thank you very much i realy enjoy your knowledge please do a manula driving tips for begginers

  • @MidnightGreen4649
    @MidnightGreen4649 18 дней назад +1

    hopefully my next car is also RWD. No hate on AWD or FWD. Would like to have all 3 styles in my life.

  • @energeticpencil2645
    @energeticpencil2645 18 дней назад

    4:21 this is exactly what killed my mx5 I know it’s not as powerful as an M2 but I came out of a roundabout with TC off and kick down dropped 2 gears, you can imagine what happened next

  • @Sid3300
    @Sid3300 22 дня назад +6

    I'd argue that powerful front wheel drive cars have their fair share of danger as well. If you floor it in a corner at the wrong time and the front wheel spin up, there's a good chance you're going straight into a hedge. My 210hp Saab is prone to torque steer and will spin the front tyres mid bend if you upset it.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +1

      Very fair.
      It's a lot "safer" though. You can just lift and 99% of the time it'll regrip.
      Do that in a rwd car and 'round you go 😂

  • @Therealbagjunkie
    @Therealbagjunkie 12 дней назад +1

    Crashed my rwd q50 in rainy conditions 🤦🏽‍♂️ you gotta be careful with them rwd cars especially with traction

  • @UnstableAdrianHD
    @UnstableAdrianHD 7 дней назад

    since you said you're new to "powerful" cars, you don't need to go WOT, just steadily increase t/p

  • @slightlyinsaneraf
    @slightlyinsaneraf 16 дней назад +1

    Don't buy rwd in winter if you new to rwd with power first month with my 370Z I had like 4 sketchy situations and I was just driving normally cuz I came from stockish mx5 and 200hp fwd Honda. Even if you are carefully they will catch you lacking. Keep in mind my first half a year with the car TC was always on unless I wanted to go sideways [which I did lol] after which I turned TC back on right after and it will still catch you lacking

  • @khiwienigma8542
    @khiwienigma8542 День назад

    Great video. I do have a question. I've been struggling with taking off, the car jumps from in first and in second. Is my issue, too little power with too much clutch or too much power with too little clutch. I appreciate all feedback.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  День назад

      Thank you kindly!
      It's funny you say this - I've been working on my 1-2 shift a lot recently. It's the hardest one to get smooth... I think it's just a feel thing. Personally I'm trying everything until something clicks - doing it faster, slower, hard, gentle. Haven't found it yet. I did the most disgusting clutch drop going into 2nd when I was getting frustrated... never again.

    • @khiwienigma8542
      @khiwienigma8542 19 часов назад

      ​​@@MickDrivesCars Thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time to reply and share your experiences.

  • @kayanhaider50
    @kayanhaider50 15 дней назад

    Im in canada, just crashed my 450ish hp (guessing no dyno) rwd non stock jaguar xkr 2007, i dont have smart tcs. It was very cold, tires werent warm, engine wasnt warm ( wasnt pushing it at all) caught a slow slide after hitting some gravel (construction) and couldnt save it (bc of tcs) so it lead to me panicking and hitting the brakes, front caught, did a 180, slammed the rear driver wheel. No rim, no control arm, no rotor, almost broke everything. It's expensive but im fixing it, out of pocket. needless to say, sometimes tcs will be a godsend, other times it will prevent from acitng out of instinct. remember when u have it on, when u have it off and how to act accordingly. In my case, best course of action is to let off throttle and let the car slide and spin out. DO NOT THROTTLE OUT W TCS ON, you will do exactly what i did or worse. it will not work. If its off and yk what ur doing, best of luck. Wish you all the best, dont be dumb, drive safe.

  • @reginald8703
    @reginald8703 21 день назад +1

    My friend, why do you have gear shift assistant off? I have the ‘21 G80 M3 base and I blip my own gears..

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад

      I can, it's just 10x easier if the car does it
      I did a short section in another video where I was like "here, just for the people that don't think I can heel-toe lol"

  • @cccboarding
    @cccboarding 2 дня назад

    Never had trac control on in my charger lol

  • @badatosu5781
    @badatosu5781 21 день назад +3

    It's weird seeing someone driving around Telford, are you from near there or just driving around there?
    edit: i'm from around Telford seeing familiar roads is odd on RUclips

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад

      Yep, moved here end of last year :)

    • @badatosu5781
      @badatosu5781 21 день назад

      @@MickDrivesCars how you finding it? I've lived here all my life (only 18).

  • @fer1306
    @fer1306 7 дней назад

    Idk but there was nothing spirited in this driving, so of course it is safe and easy to drive such a car. I am having hard times with my 500hp stage 3 og m2 with 265 square setup if i am not careful. Time to try 265/295 staggered setup.

  • @CRUDEDriving
    @CRUDEDriving 20 дней назад +2

    2:12 I always thought this is what Electronic Stability Control (ESC) does?

    • @milchomilchev853
      @milchomilchev853 14 дней назад +1

      Exaclty, I just made a comment about it as well.

  • @THEDOPEGAME
    @THEDOPEGAME 6 дней назад

    😵‍💫
    It’s so weird watching someone drive from the passengers side 😅

  • @SwipeLess
    @SwipeLess 21 день назад

    M4 competition in my country costs over 160k and they dont even have manuals :/

  • @_J4CK4L_
    @_J4CK4L_ 6 дней назад

    S58 ❤

  • @ryanjones403
    @ryanjones403 21 день назад

    I’d love to see you actually push the car on a dry day

  • @vl7582
    @vl7582 17 дней назад

    Can you please do a video on how you are getting such a good POV angle? Thanks

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  16 дней назад +1

      It's actually already filmed! Lots of people have been asking for it. Should be out in about 2 weeks

    • @vl7582
      @vl7582 16 дней назад

      @@MickDrivesCars thanks!

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  День назад

      Coming tomorrow :)

  • @meatpuppet666
    @meatpuppet666 19 дней назад

    Love love love the vids man but please do the intro with a fixed camera, some of us get motion sickness :)

  • @enzorum2560
    @enzorum2560 16 дней назад

    place youre driving looks like burgess hill!

  • @demonrange19
    @demonrange19 4 дня назад

    What camera are you using mate?

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  День назад

      It's a DJI Action 4
      You might like tomorrow's vid

  • @1314_qlf
    @1314_qlf 21 день назад +1

    bmws don’t use to understeer cause their engines are behind of the front wheels, and the fact that the car is rwd that means that the turning it’s light and you can turn as much as you want, car won’t understeer

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +1

      I mean, I've literally had understeer in this car multiple times in the 203 months I've owned it :)

    • @InclineDumbbell
      @InclineDumbbell 15 дней назад

      @@MickDrivesCars with different wheels and 285/30R20 front, 305/30R20 rear my g87 is a little more oversteery now

    • @SasaDraskovic
      @SasaDraskovic 13 дней назад

      Every rwd car can understeer. Even mid/rear engine can suffer from understeer. It is more than engine position. Front and rear sway bar setup is almost more important than engine position. Front and rear camber also. I made my fwd honda oversteer whenever i lift off throtle

  • @adifferentangle7064
    @adifferentangle7064 8 дней назад

    Imagine having 460HP and no gauge cluster.
    And then imagine having a fine piece of driving machinery with a 50/50 weight distribution thinking you're going to lose control without traction control in wet weather.

    • @soccerjockey456
      @soccerjockey456 6 дней назад

      Imagine being SO butthurt about not having your own M2 you leave a comment like this. Yikes, couldn’t imagine

    • @adifferentangle7064
      @adifferentangle7064 6 дней назад

      @@soccerjockey456 Why would I downgrade to an M2?

    • @soccerjockey456
      @soccerjockey456 6 дней назад

      @@adifferentangle7064 lmfao until i see proof i dont believe jack shit. Lie to yourself all you want, highly doubt you have anything faster than a miata

    • @soccerjockey456
      @soccerjockey456 6 дней назад

      @@adifferentangle7064 you look, sound, and dress like a fiat 500 owner

    • @adifferentangle7064
      @adifferentangle7064 6 дней назад

      @@soccerjockey456 Now I'm incredibly curious what other things "people like me" supposedly do.
      Better tell James May to hand back his Ferrari!🤣
      Perhaps you're just confused because your clothes are made out of plastic and mine aren't. 😂😂😂

  • @user-rr6pb4je1h
    @user-rr6pb4je1h 9 дней назад

    Good video but you’re confusing ESC and traction control at some points just FYI

  • @sgeertt4724
    @sgeertt4724 17 дней назад +1

    MDM traction mode is amazing. It lets you push the engine like traction is off without much intervention and if your angle is crazy it controls it. Ive lost traction at 80 mph in the rain in my g80 comp rwd with MDM mode on and even with my lackluster drift skils and basic understanding of oversteer I was able to flick the car to the left 45 degrees, then the right, then left, then right, and finally back to the middle. I started sliding because I gassed it way too hard while switching lanes and all I did was slightly ease the throttle while being still on it and counter steering the slides. The MDM mode made it so that i didnt get past 45 degrees on either side. With DSC off I would have not had the skill necessary to counter steer. With MDM mode I managed to countersteer and drift at 80mph and make multiple smooth connections from left to right before making it back to middle despite having litterally 0 proper drift experience (only experience before I encountered the slide was doing donuts and basic slides). BMW engineering litterally makes this car just about idiot proof in all weather conditions. If I had DSC off completely the first time my tires spun I wouldve completely done a 180 on the highway but with MDM on the car drifted itself and adjusted itself based around my loosely informed inputs.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  16 дней назад

      Couldn't agree more!
      I will say, once I'm on the motorway the driving mode generally goes back to comfort and TC goes to on

    • @SasaDraskovic
      @SasaDraskovic 13 дней назад

      It is great to know your driving limits👏

  • @CrisDFF30917
    @CrisDFF30917 17 дней назад

    My grandpa has a grand vitara rwd ... it is fun to drive (obviously I drive it with the most respect and carefulness that I can) ... I am saving to buy a bmw e30 92, because in my country people has no driving culture so you can only buy SUVs or trucks or FWD cars.

  • @ayserg
    @ayserg 16 дней назад

    what camera do you use?

  • @taaaizA
    @taaaizA 17 дней назад +1

    thanks, will try to drive with TC off in my dads Carrera GT!

  • @travisfs7526
    @travisfs7526 9 дней назад

    Me watching this driving my sub 200hp 36 compact and e34 520i

  • @MikkelKster-vh4qt
    @MikkelKster-vh4qt 13 дней назад

    The point of owning a high power rwd car is to provoke oversteer and have fun with it😎

  • @timothyinniger8245
    @timothyinniger8245 11 дней назад

    Open diff is impossible to manage tho on an rwd

  • @aquua3970
    @aquua3970 8 дней назад +1

    me watching with a 113hp rwd

  • @rfactorgo39
    @rfactorgo39 21 день назад

    I love to put some shit tyres on my mx5 and skid around. You just have to be careful for that understeer

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад

      I'm actually considering this for the M2. Good tires on the front, cheap half-decent on the rear... Might make it even more silly

    • @rfactorgo39
      @rfactorgo39 21 день назад

      @@MickDrivesCars Yeah, good idea putting good tires on the front, easier to deal with the oversteer than understeer; at least you wont end up front first in the wall.
      Have you had practice with rwd cars before?

  • @timothyhicks5843
    @timothyhicks5843 21 день назад

    To intentionally (albeit unnecessarily) invoke a loss of traction at the rear is to create a resolvable situation as the cause can simply be removed within reasonable limits. This is rarely the situation that causes concern to less experienced drivers coming to more powerful RWD machines. As you correctly identified, understeer (plough) is the usual issue; however I don’t think you addressed how to respond to this with traction control/stability control engaged, as most drivers will and should, have enabled? Many drivers will reduce braking and steering inputs as was taught for many years and you might want to update your audience on current best practice. In respect of emerging from a T-junction, the likely ‘scare’ is excessive acceleration resulting in traction control cutting in - not nice with a 40 ton artic bearing down. Other ‘scares’ include over acceleration prior to overtaking having failed to set the car in an overtake position first and reduced traction whilst crossing over a crest which you might like to address - it can confuse the car’s brain… Happy motoring

    • @Scotty-vs4lf
      @Scotty-vs4lf 21 день назад

      whats current best practice for understeer? cuz i reduce throttle input and steering angle... its worked pretty well so far ig

    • @timothyhicks5843
      @timothyhicks5843 21 день назад

      @@Scotty-vs4lf Hi Scotty, this will depend upon the particular vehicle to a certain extent. For Mick's motor, you need to consider the message that a reduced steering angle sends to the car and what impact that may have on vehicle intervention levels.

    • @Scotty-vs4lf
      @Scotty-vs4lf 21 день назад

      @@timothyhicks5843 oh thats a good point, i have noticed that sometimes if i stay on the gas and give it more steering angle it will do its thing and rotate me a little. its uncomfortable tho cuz it usually goes from bad understeer into a sudden little moment of oversteer (no countersteer needed tho) and i dont trust it lol
      i wish i could track my car to safely experiment with this stuff, usually i just drive at like 80% to avoid having to make any correction at all

  • @shahabutanjinsinha424
    @shahabutanjinsinha424 14 дней назад

    I've no issues driving an SUV,and FWD sedans but I feel really afraid driving a RWD...Looking forward to get rid of that...Cheers Ma Breda!😂

  • @orangeguy9166
    @orangeguy9166 16 дней назад

    me watching this with only a driving permit to my name and my dad's passat wagon

  • @lloydgriffiths1847
    @lloydgriffiths1847 21 день назад +1

    So given your MX5 suggestion, you wouldn’t advise going from a 1.0 140 ford fiesta to an M135i or M140i 🤣

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +2

      Eh... if you're relatively sensible you'll be ok. If you're being a fool with the TC off it will bite you. Also open diffs are tricky.

    • @lloydgriffiths1847
      @lloydgriffiths1847 21 день назад

      @@MickDrivesCars So maybe coming from “regular power” something like a 120i with 184hp would be better, still a rwd hatch with an open diff but a lot less power.
      I had a birthday gift experience day at my local track with an FK8 Type R and an F430 but that was heavily controlled. Still managed some speed but it was one day two years ago so I don’t think it translates to much. No controlling slides or anything

  • @fatehbirsinghchahal9340
    @fatehbirsinghchahal9340 13 дней назад

    Speed in mph or kmph

  • @davidsoT1cky
    @davidsoT1cky 16 дней назад

    Long press the traction control off to turn off traction and stability

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  15 дней назад

      I have it mapped to M2 button for fun times

  • @christipof5934
    @christipof5934 16 дней назад

    My dream car is something like a mustang and ive seen alot of videos of them going sideways into a crowd of people, is that just dumb drivers turning off traction control or genuinely a difficult car to drive ?

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  15 дней назад +2

      Older ones with live rear axle, yes pretty sketchy.
      Newer ones ~2016+... People just suck.

    • @christipof5934
      @christipof5934 12 дней назад

      @@MickDrivesCars thx 🙌

  • @roostergotcooked
    @roostergotcooked 10 дней назад

    I would love to “buy an mx5 as my first fun car” if they weren’t $10k+ because they’re trendy 😭

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  9 дней назад

      You can get a ropey NB MX-5 for like £1-2k and use it to learn.

    • @roostergotcooked
      @roostergotcooked 8 дней назад

      @@MickDrivesCars true true

  • @bobsakka
    @bobsakka 21 день назад

    Need your intake on my situation, I live in Lebanon where its winter for about 6 months (heavy rain), and my dad is getting me a 2018 530i rwd, I’ve been driving for about 3 years and I’m really good but I’m scared as I tend to speed and cut up often. Do you recommend something like a Awd Range Rover sport 2016? Or stay on the bmw(I’m gonna tune it)

    • @cleanname4439
      @cleanname4439 16 дней назад

      Tell your dad not to buy you a car

    • @TheDHM3007
      @TheDHM3007 16 дней назад

      Buy better tires and suspension for bmw. Youre going to murder someone cutting up in a Range Rover

  • @eti7350
    @eti7350 11 дней назад +1

    a friend gave me his 5.0 V8 Mustang. I have never driven a car above 120hp. Guess what happend

  • @BanyanBirb
    @BanyanBirb 16 дней назад

    what if you're tire blows out on a turn and sends you and your z31 into a concrete retaining wall >:

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  15 дней назад

      What if a meteor hits me and I explode?

  • @freshdom3658
    @freshdom3658 11 дней назад

    Hold up thats telford

  • @musaiqbal6104
    @musaiqbal6104 22 дня назад

    Hi Mick

  • @MrDylanButton
    @MrDylanButton 21 день назад

    I did what you did with the traction control slip thing, my mx5 doesnt have traction control so I didnt get saved.
    cars fine tho

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +1

      Bit of hurt pride is good once in a while

    • @MrDylanButton
      @MrDylanButton 21 день назад

      @@MickDrivesCars fr tho, I'll be driving differbt for a while that's for sure, don't send it off a roundabout in the rain over unseen gravel 😂 not my smartest move

  • @kevinansley7353
    @kevinansley7353 5 дней назад

    Learn on gravel, enjoy!

  • @VeneraSGF
    @VeneraSGF 9 дней назад

    It’s safer because of your diff. Try an open diff with power.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  9 дней назад

      I've driven a few fairly powerful open diff cars. 500bhp m240i, ~450bhp m140i
      Strongly agree! Much less predictable and more likely to spin up a single wheel with bumps in the road. Sketchy.

  • @gergelyhalasz3225
    @gergelyhalasz3225 21 день назад

    1:40 top gear accent

  • @user-fd9hx9hd9q
    @user-fd9hx9hd9q 13 дней назад

    FWD Next??? 🥺🥺🥺🥺

  • @ampm9771
    @ampm9771 16 дней назад

    Is this the Renault guy?

  • @klinkske
    @klinkske 13 дней назад +1

    O look a car coming from the oposite side. Lets do something stupid and floor it in a bend. I can t believe this.

  • @captaindowntown7851
    @captaindowntown7851 21 день назад

    Model year?

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  21 день назад +1

      '23

    • @smashb3766
      @smashb3766 16 дней назад

      @@MickDrivesCarsthey do manuals still?

    • @AM2K2
      @AM2K2 День назад

      @@MickDrivesCars How much did it cost mate?