3 things you don't understand about automatic cars

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
  • In this video, we'll uncover three things that might surprise you about automatic transmissions.
    First up, we'll debunk the myth that automatics are just boring boxes on wheels. Did you know that many automatics come with a manual mode? You can take control and shift gears yourself, adding a whole new level of excitement to your drive. Stick around to learn why automatics can actually be a blast, especially when you're in the driver's seat.
    Next, we'll tackle the reliability question. While automatic transmissions have come a long way, not all are created equal. We'll shine a light on the not-so-glamorous side of automatics and why they might not always be the most dependable choice. Trust us, you'll want to hear this before making your next car-buying decision.
    But wait, there's more! We'll also spill the beans on why automatics are fuel-sipping champs. Thanks to their long gearing and intelligent gear selection, they're masters at maximizing fuel efficiency. Say goodbye to constant gear hunting and hello to smooth, economical rides.
    So, whether you're a seasoned driver or just starting your journey on the road, this video is packed with must-know info about automatic cars.
    Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share with your fellow car enthusiasts for more juicy automotive content.
    00:00 Intro
    01:04 Auto Basics
    02:26 Manual Mode
    08:55 Reliability
    14:34 Economy
    19:02 Outro
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Комментарии • 248

  • @misswhiskeykittie
    @misswhiskeykittie 2 месяца назад +271

    I love how you pronounce "automatic" ...."Oh ta matic " heheh

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  2 месяца назад +18

      😂

    • @tizodd6
      @tizodd6 2 месяца назад +11

      Lmao I was going to comment on this😁

    • @WorldofTai
      @WorldofTai 2 месяца назад +8

      Like what even is that 😂

    • @joshua42joshua
      @joshua42joshua 2 месяца назад

      especially when it supposed to be automated...

    • @Hafiz_G_Lumber_1
      @Hafiz_G_Lumber_1 2 месяца назад

      He's British, 😂 WATER : VOTA
      VIDEO: V E O, AUTOMATIC: O MAH TIC

  • @aseroxmilez
    @aseroxmilez 2 месяца назад +137

    The first point just changed the auto to manual 😂😂

    • @MrDylanButton
      @MrDylanButton 2 месяца назад +7

      some purists argue otherwise

    • @tomirakovic1239
      @tomirakovic1239 2 месяца назад +1

      @@MrDylanButton most

    • @iameatingursnack
      @iameatingursnack 20 дней назад

      no.......... Manual transmissions have a clutch ..... PERIOD.... OVER

  • @natecrad
    @natecrad 2 месяца назад +65

    Oh to matic

  • @leulmekonnen8011
    @leulmekonnen8011 2 месяца назад +61

    Looking like a saint with that sunlight😄

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  2 месяца назад +9

      Haha the lighting finally blessed me

  • @Snogy0509
    @Snogy0509 2 месяца назад +27

    If you want a reliable cvt, buy a toyota, as a toyota mechanic we got cvt cars coming into the shop with nearly half a million kilometers on the original transmission. I dont know how they do it, but they seem to be the only manufacturer who actually produces proper cvts. Also almost all their hybrids use cvt.

    • @vics5623
      @vics5623 2 месяца назад +1

      Hmm I have heard cvt is quite reliable in slower cars. Do you know anything about the models over 200hp with cvt? Do they hold up? Also heavier cars

    • @Snogy0509
      @Snogy0509 2 месяца назад +1

      @@vics5623 well the Rav4 hybrid models use a cvt, and they push up to 220hp and weigh about 1700kg or 3747lb and they dont seem to have any issues either. We’ve had 0 transmission related issues with the hybrid ravs so far, so toyota is doing a good job at making solid cvts even for heavier and more powerful vehicles. But since i work at a toyota dealer the vehicles that come here are well and regularly maintained. So i cannot say for sure how reliable they are when they aren’t well maintained. But the only real maintenance that is done on these transmissions are transmission fluid changes. Besides the rav 4 i dont really know of any cvt toyota that does have common transmission issues, and cvt complaints are quite rare in general. In fact we have more complaints about the manual or normal automatic transmission than we do for cvts.

    • @barrielui
      @barrielui Месяц назад

      ​@@vics5623Subaru optimized their CVT transmission for performance - WRX has 270hp and 400NM torque with CVT. And cars like Lexus and Acura perform really well with CVT. To be honest, most CVT 'unpleasantness' is down to the lack of engine power.

  • @Ladutsgamer63
    @Ladutsgamer63 2 месяца назад +36

    the first thing you have to do to have fun with an automatic car is change it to manual mode 😂😂😂😂
    That`s something

  • @dlevi67
    @dlevi67 2 месяца назад +84

    3 things Mick doesn't understand about automatic cars:
    1. Not all auto cars have a manual mode
    2. Not all manual modes are the same; many will shift up and most will shift down (including kick-down)
    3. Creeping on a torque converter is totally fine.

    • @Omarock
      @Omarock 2 месяца назад

      How do we differentiate between different manual modes when buying a new car? Is it mentioned in the specs or do we have to test drive it to know?

    • @heros2110
      @heros2110 2 месяца назад +3

      @@Omarock Yes, in effect, you have to drive it to know whether or not you're screwed.

    • @dlevi67
      @dlevi67 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Omarock The dealer should know; it's normally not in the marketing materials, though sometimes it's mentioned in the owner's manual. Test drive is probably the easiest way to tell (and to tell about a few more things too).

    • @davidmoore4615
      @davidmoore4615 2 месяца назад +2

      I think his target audience is British people who like driving and not Americans, or British people who only see their car as a tool. I'm not making any presumptions about yourself 😉
      I can confirm that the manual mode on mothers lowly aygo is pretty obedient as confirmed by myself when I've tested it, and by her when she's attempted to use it then given up because she always found appropriate gear for desired speed and style of progression to be somewhat confusing. You have to allow it to be obedient though, so manual means manual, until it HAS to intervene such as to avoid a stall. At the other extreme it will just sit at the rev limiter.
      I'd be interested to see a video with a proper crappy old school auto on a simple cheap when new car. A lot of small new cars could be considered slightly premium these days, Micks Clio included 👍

    • @carsbikes4520
      @carsbikes4520 2 месяца назад

      So true

  • @aaronb6390
    @aaronb6390 2 месяца назад +17

    Toyota Hybrids are not conventional CVTs, they use duel motors and the engine to create a continuously variable transmission. Very reliable. CVT type transmissions can also hold the engine at peak power output, no other transmission can do that.

    • @johnkeepin7527
      @johnkeepin7527 2 месяца назад

      Agreed. I’m running my second Toyota hybrid. It’s more refined than the previous one overall. They actually use the term ‘eCVT’ in most of the documentation about it for the mechanical side - but the electric side of the hybrid is king, when it comes to brisk starts from rest. Zero risk of stalling etc. All traction motors have the property of being able to turn out maximum torque at zero speed, which results in the simplest mechanical transmission both on the road and on the railway.
      You’re right about them using constant engine speed when required, but a lot of that is to optimise the thermal efficiency, along with no idling at low speed.

  • @tizodd6
    @tizodd6 2 месяца назад +24

    I've always driven manuals. I recently bought a '22 Supra, which is auto because the manuals are so hard to come by.
    *ZERO* regrets. Autos have come so far these last few decades. I could never shift as quickly as this auto, plus now I have a free hand instead of always needing one available for shifting.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  2 месяца назад +3

      The ZF-8 speed in that car is basically the gold standard!

    • @oribt1
      @oribt1 23 дня назад +1

      But you do have paddle shifters right? Without it I don't think I could ever but a sport car that isn't good ol' stick shift manual.

    • @tizodd6
      @tizodd6 23 дня назад

      @@oribt1 Yeah, it has paddle shifters. I don't use them very often, but it is nice being able to downshift manually when I need to pass quickly.

    • @iameatingursnack
      @iameatingursnack 20 дней назад

      I still would have waited for a true manual to show up

  • @adrianmaxdenis
    @adrianmaxdenis 2 месяца назад +5

    Can you please fix the light exposure settings of your camera

  • @GameWithViiP3R
    @GameWithViiP3R 2 месяца назад

    As someone who is picking his first auto a seat leon dsg next week, this video came at a perfect time

  • @borisboyanov8209
    @borisboyanov8209 2 месяца назад

    Thanks so much! I really enjoy your videos ever since I stumbled across them on the net. I think you are so much better so many others, even professional driving instructors, in the way that rather than teach how to pull the wheel this or press pedal that way you are giving a holistic view on what it takes to be a safe and efficient driver.

  • @Kxndyx
    @Kxndyx 2 месяца назад

    You're the best! So easy to understand and enjoyable to watch!👍👍

  • @marks7197
    @marks7197 2 месяца назад +4

    Has anyone seen that Mitchell and Webb sketch where the bloke uses his hands too much on TV?

  • @Tibialstone7
    @Tibialstone7 2 месяца назад +4

    Hands down the best explained video on automatics. I am still unsure and need to do a few more test drives to confirm whether I want to make the switch, but this video has come closer to convincing me.
    I think the fundamental issue is the lack of that third pedal. I really enjoy the connection you have to the car, and whilst dual clutch is a happy medium, it still cannot rival that visceral feeling you get from a manual transmission.
    Great vid as always Mick!

    • @PointNemo9
      @PointNemo9 2 месяца назад +1

      I can't see what benefit you would get from an automatic transmission.
      Maybe you would find one that seems fun on a test drive, but the novelty will wear off within a week and you will wish you had a manual transmission again.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks dude! They honestly are great!
      I will say - my next car I'm going back to manual. I don't commute anymore and I'm looking for that extra 5% engagement

    • @Kreditz404
      @Kreditz404 2 месяца назад +1

      Honestly, I have both. To help you with your decision think about it like this: How is your daily commute to work? Do you creep allot in standing traffic? Do you want to be engaged with the driving or just not care about it? If you are stuck allot in traffic (city driving) I recommend going automatic as it is more relaxing. But if you want to be more engaged with your car all the time, stick with the manual. Sure you can go manual on a automatic, but I never find myself doing that unless I actively search for a nice B road.

  • @ducksternsim
    @ducksternsim 2 месяца назад +1

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR AN UPLOAD 🥰

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  2 месяца назад +1

      I missed last week! I profusely apologise ♥️

  • @rayjennings3637
    @rayjennings3637 2 месяца назад

    I've been driving since 1966 and I now have my second automatic. The first - 30 years ago was a Borg Warner 3 Speed box, which I had for only 18 months. One year ago, I bought a car with an eight-speed auto torque converter box and I just love the effortless driving experience. I've tried manual mode but even after a total of 56 years of manual boxes,with the flappy paddle changing, I just can't get my timing right and if I'm in manual mode and pull away from lights, I sometimes forget and when the engine's at 6,000rpm I suddenly remember to change up! And the box will still change down if it thinks I'm going too slow for a gear! I think I'd better watch Mick's video on driving in manual mode.

  • @kurtgabbidon2666
    @kurtgabbidon2666 2 месяца назад +1

    This is a fantastic video. You should have also mentioned, the E CVT which runs on two electric motors

  • @Mrbikertomtom
    @Mrbikertomtom 2 месяца назад

    Perfect timing for a video, I'm thinking of a BMW F31 Touring 330d (2012-2016ish) and they all have the ZF box. Always been put off, but most research says they are solid. Let's see.... Subbed!

  • @jamesofoof1232
    @jamesofoof1232 2 месяца назад

    Incredible video I love the simplicity of your explanations. I do just have one question about the economy of autos, I thought that keeping my car in too high a gear was bad for the economy? I live in a very hilly area so when I am on a uphill and in too high of a gear I find myself having to use a lot more of the throttle and I thought there has to be a point where the engine is exerting more energy than necessary, so gearing down and driving with the rpm higher to maintain speed was the best thing to do?

  • @martinu.6921
    @martinu.6921 2 месяца назад +5

    So, I have a 20 year old Audi A3 with manual transmission and over 300000 km on the clock. The clutch is still the first one.
    Now I'm looking for a BMW 128ti, which unfortunately is only available with automatic transmission. That sucks! But I have to replace my car because of various defects (turbo, power steering).
    So if I want a 128ti, I have to go for an automatic. But this video disappoints me as far as automatics go.
    The way I see it, an automatic offers me no advantages whatsoever.
    If I want to have fun, I have to switch to manual mode.
    If I want to have a long life, I have to be careful.
    If I want to save fuel, I have to ...
    What I'm trying to say is: I hate the automotive industry for doing away with the manual transmission.

  • @blanchimont5587
    @blanchimont5587 2 месяца назад +6

    To be honest a lot of 'manual' modes across different cars are frustrating to say the least. perhaps on more performance oriented car they allow more control, but in other cars they can intervene more than they should for a 'manual mode' resulting in a frustrating experience.
    fantastic video, great tips and alot of care out into it

    • @Scotty-vs4lf
      @Scotty-vs4lf 2 месяца назад

      in my cvt (🤮) impreza it doesnt intervene at all, aside from not letting you money shift

    • @kingslayer2731
      @kingslayer2731 2 месяца назад

      @@Scotty-vs4lfi mean a cvt just fake shifts, it has no gears

    • @Scotty-vs4lf
      @Scotty-vs4lf 2 месяца назад

      @@kingslayer2731 yeah it just let u switch between different gear ratios in manual mode

    • @davidmoore4615
      @davidmoore4615 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Scotty-vs4lf why in the name of anything involving forwards motion would you choose to hamper an Impreza with hairdryer gearing?
      I realise I'm sounding old because I'm thinking of the fast stuff and not the modern day badge.

    • @Scotty-vs4lf
      @Scotty-vs4lf 2 месяца назад

      @@davidmoore4615 wdym hairdryer gearing?
      its obviously a slow car but on backroads manual mode is infinitely better. better throttle response and its easier to stay near the limit when its the right time and place

  • @smortg
    @smortg 2 месяца назад

    Good watching after I test drove a Fiat 500X yesterday. I normally drive a 110BHP EV so thought it wouldn't be too different but all the little technology and feeling the gear shifts is a lot of get acquainted with. I pout the 500X in manual mode and felt like it was in its best use case

  • @shaunmartin7123
    @shaunmartin7123 2 месяца назад

    I had an RS Megane 225. Manual. It made me feel like I was a racing driver. Then I got a Mini Cooper S with a basic auto box. Made me realize I could accelerate faster without having to change the gears myself. One less pedal to worry about. Never bothered with the "manual" mode. Made me feel like I was playing a computer game. Driving a Nissan Juke auto at the moment (don't ask), and that has a sports mode and a manual mode. It's not fun at all. Good video, mate.

  • @maximac1515
    @maximac1515 2 месяца назад +4

    How to have fun in an automatic car:
    Step 1: Put it in manual mode
    💀
    Ok, but for real in my budget I don't really have a choice because older cheaper cars come with torque converter (usually 4 speed) gearboxes which make already slow ~150hp engines feel even more sluggish and are less fuel efficient. Manual is the better option here if I want to have some fun. Maybe my budget will allow for fun automatic car someday.

    • @davidmoore4615
      @davidmoore4615 2 месяца назад

      Try a late 90s 1.3i automatic hyundai accent with something like 70hp. Yep, that's what I was blessed with before parents caved in and helped me get my own car. I think it was actually 3 gears + overdrive it was so ancient underneath. I would joke to my mates that O/D off was sport mode 😂😂 luckily for my social dignity none of them were into cars.
      This was a long time ago - I've not long turned 40 so 😂

  • @DrivingSander1970
    @DrivingSander1970 2 месяца назад +9

    All nice and well, but I still prefer the feel of changing gears with a gearstick, to feel the gears engage.

    • @Carrot_attacker88
      @Carrot_attacker88 2 месяца назад

      I'm a paddleshifter guy but I remember banging through all the fears on my Miata, may not have been as fast as my current car but it had a soul.

  • @lesterdealwis2712
    @lesterdealwis2712 2 месяца назад

    Hey Mick, thank you for this content. I have a few doubts,
    1. So I own DCT transmission powered with a hybrid battery. So when I decelerate or slowdown the battery powers up on the EV mode. So lets say my EV mode is on and im in a traffic, will that still wear of the clutch? My vehicle is a Honda Vezel 2014 hybrid
    2. Can you drive a DCT on manual mode on a traffic, what effect would that have on the transmission?
    3. I also hear that when you drive hillside roads most of the DCTs get heated up, is it because they dont drive on manual mode on those types of roads or whats the catch on driving hillside on a DCT.

  • @billypanou
    @billypanou Месяц назад

    Great video! quick question, i have DSG Polo and i've had multiple issues (not all about wear and tear) the last couple of years with the gearbox. I live on a small but steep hill and the first thing my car has to do each morning is creep down the road. If i accelerate i find that the car picks up too much speed, so naturally (i drove manual for years), i'll let it creep and it does something like a hill decent controlled speed of around 15-20 Km/hour. Can i approach this differently? Thank you!

  • @MrFresh-uh3ed
    @MrFresh-uh3ed 2 месяца назад +1

    I actually do shift to 5th at around 40 mph a lot. But only when I don't need to accelerate further and when I'm not going up a hill. I also do this to keep my momentum at a slight descent without needing to press the gas pedal.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  2 месяца назад +1

      5th at 40 isn't crazy tbh
      But these autos will go 5th at 30... Feels so unnatural

    • @MrFresh-uh3ed
      @MrFresh-uh3ed 2 месяца назад

      ​@MickDrivesCars Yes that's true. 5th at 30 and 6th at 40 fells kinda wrong in a manual...

  • @gsonz172
    @gsonz172 2 месяца назад +2

    You shouldn't be so negative about CVTs as there are some really reliable ones like the Toyota e-CVT (which isn't using a classical belt drive, that's why it is better)

  • @TrungLe-tb2jj
    @TrungLe-tb2jj 2 месяца назад

    Can you make a video next on how to keep a centered lane. Despite driving for 5 years now, I end up leaning more on the left side of the lane, or hug the line I’m making turns on. Whenever I turn on my lane assist to center myself, it feels like ima crash onto someone 😅

  • @darkblueturbo
    @darkblueturbo 2 месяца назад

    I have a problem with my left foot so after 25 years all manual motoring I’ve had to go auto.
    The family wagon is a lumbering beast with a big engine and while I agree totally with your manual mode there is also a certain enjoyment to using fine throttle control when in D to ensure the car is in and stays in the gear you want. Great way of having a fun drive with the kids in the car. But manual mode when I’m on my own and want to enjoy the drive.
    Speaking of which, the ZF8 you mention is in my BMW and if they told me it was a dual clutch, I might believe them compared to the torque converter in my 15 year old Audi!

  • @nishikhen
    @nishikhen 2 месяца назад +1

    the new hybrid rav 4 has a CVT. It's nothing special but as the revs stay consistent the rumble sounds surprisingly good sometimes when you're just teasing the throttle a little in sport mode. Would still prefer a normal auto tho :D

  • @gordonstenson2708
    @gordonstenson2708 2 месяца назад

    Fantastic and sound advice given on this video. The little details are correct and without doubt in my opinion would make these gearboxes last a long time.
    This will be the future of all cars, however the general public wont learn the finer techniques.
    I enjoy my automatics and agree that they are better than manual which are not bomb proof either due to dual mass flywheels.
    Certain drivers will always be rough and plenty will have feel and apply technique.
    As an oldie even I am learning!!

  • @Gianluca92
    @Gianluca92 2 месяца назад +1

    I understand that you shouldn't stop and go in 2nd. but what if you're at a complete stop at a red light, resting in second, then accelerate off to third when green. it shouldn't be slipping given i'm still the entire time i'm in second. is that correct?

  • @j.cesarbraga
    @j.cesarbraga 2 месяца назад

    I drive a DCT and I absolutely love it. It feels like a race car, minus the power 😅

  • @MidnightGreen4649
    @MidnightGreen4649 2 месяца назад +1

    I fully intend for my next car to be manual as I have an automatic already. That being said, it was one of the best decisions I made to have myself experience an autobox, as I never would have fallen in love with "the drive" otherwise, and I would have been yet another idiot trying to clout chase with constant grinding and power figures. I also have learned a lot of nuances, especially left foot braking.
    Thanks for fighting against the manual only dogma, I think that both are worth understanding!

  • @MichaelKorolov
    @MichaelKorolov 2 месяца назад

    If you consider topic to talk about. Please tell us if your drivers as community have some kind of code, like extention to rules, or even amendments maybe. Or common habbits which suppliment official rules. For example our drivers, let's assume it is left sided system, when approaching T- intersection with main road to make left turn, should signal left, but they are signaling right to notify drivers on main road they are going to join main flow.
    Also, would be interesting to know about gestures and light signals as communications between drivers. For example, do you make two short far flashes to warn other drivers about police in the bush?

  • @neonlight1214
    @neonlight1214 2 месяца назад

    How do you notice the wheel spin 3:10? I can't notice it unless i accelerate too hard after stopping to get away from the intersection ( mostly during winter it happens to me ) but in that conditions I didn't even think about that

    • @0koo
      @0koo 2 месяца назад

      Its something you feel, or failing that if you have traction control turned on you're likely to get a brief flashing light telling you something is amidst lol

  • @bogdanescu03
    @bogdanescu03 2 месяца назад +1

    In fact, a DCT gearbox si identical to a manual gearbox. The clutch is the fragile part. The torque converter automatic gearbox and CVT's are trully automatic

  • @zachrichardson7099
    @zachrichardson7099 2 месяца назад

    In the early 90s, the williams f1 team developed a really quite good cvt that was unfortunately banned by the fia before they could use it a race

  • @WandererOfWorlds0
    @WandererOfWorlds0 2 месяца назад +2

    I understand the benefits of fuel economy on the highway but some gearboxes really under-rev the engine and this is bad for two reasons: when you want to accelerate, if you press slowly on the pedal it will lug the engine a bit until it decides to shift down and for turbocharged engines, the turbo isn't spinning as much as it should, or at all. If you select the gears manually or stay in sports mode it's fine but on eco or even normal I find myself manually overriding the transmission before accelerating just to avoid these issues.
    I have a Aisin EAT-8 torque converter, the behavior is different for different models.

    • @alderinerush
      @alderinerush 2 месяца назад +1

      The trick I used when I drove Automatic 520d was to give a quick blip of throttle to force the gearbox to downshift. Once the downshift happens, I can proceed to puch down throttle as required.

  • @jreererer8490
    @jreererer8490 2 месяца назад +2

    You should do tips on RWD cars

  • @LucasOQ
    @LucasOQ Месяц назад

    How do you wear off a torque converter?

  • @eugenendungu4062
    @eugenendungu4062 2 месяца назад

    Amazing video dude but just remember to be cleaning the lenses of the camera's that you use ✌

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  2 месяца назад +1

      Dude I wiped the lens like 4 times, it was fogging up because filming in a car without the climate running fogs everything up 😂

  • @heros2110
    @heros2110 2 месяца назад

    Torque converter: The medium between propeller and impeller is oil. How is it supposed to wear when creeping. In drive, it is engaged all the time. That is actually the main advantage of a torque converter, especially when maneuvring a trailer. The oil might get hot, and you shouldn't let it creep for hours of course, but in dense traffic, i don't see an issue tbh.

  • @ngu8974
    @ngu8974 2 месяца назад

    is it normal when you release the foot break, when car is in D or R. The breaks sliding with car momentum and it make noise. Is it normal in automatic cars

  • @Grafyte
    @Grafyte 2 месяца назад +6

    Some nuance: Torque converters, the mechanical components, DO NOT wear. Torque converters cause the automatic transmission fluid to heat up rapidly when they create large amounts of torque multiplication and slippage (and those things are related but not the same), and ATF breaks down at temperatures above 110 degrees C. Worn out, dirty, burnt fluid is bad for an automatic transmission, but the mechanical components of the torque converter could not be less affected by this slippage. The torque converter clutch on the other hand - the component responsible for locking the torque converter and reducing slip - absolutely can and does wear out. They usually wear out when worn, dirty, burnt ATF goes through the system and reduces line pressure on the TCC, causing it to slip more than "desired". Perversely, some auto manufacturers engineered their torque converters to feature clutches which are designed to slip. These designs are horrific for longevity, especially if the ATF is ever allowed to get hot. In general, torque converter clutches only slip when more power is sent through them than they were designed to handle, as in when the engine is tuned to make more than factory power and torque.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  2 месяца назад +5

      Love this, thank you! I had a surface level understanding but now I actually get what's going on!

  • @robalexander7348
    @robalexander7348 2 месяца назад

    Hi Mick, i have owned 5 New Subaru WRX since 2005. my first 2 were manual, my last 2 were CVT, i have recently purchased a new 2023 WRX Sport it has the new Subaru SPT auto, it is just brilliant to drive smooth and rapid responce when required. Please do test drive the new WRX SPT (cvt) BTW i do like the Renault Megan RS i have owned 2 new Renault, and 5 new Peugeot cars. 👍 Au.

  • @omminnoremac
    @omminnoremac 2 месяца назад

    15:10 the reason I dont hold 6th at 40 isn't because it feels unnatural, it's because I'd need to manually change down if I wanted more power from the engine - the lack of kick-down makes the car feel unresponsive when holding such a high gear

  • @ronangomez8543
    @ronangomez8543 3 дня назад

    Why is there a blur box throughout the whole video? It's not really blocking anything sensitive

  • @F-MK96
    @F-MK96 2 месяца назад

    thanks I have the clio with EDC and will deffinitely STOP creeping in traffic without gass pedal... I did 25k kilometers so hopefully its not runied yet!

  • @emilepapillon2275
    @emilepapillon2275 2 месяца назад

    if I floor the throttle in my volks in manual mode it assumes I dont have the slightest idea of what Im doing and it downshifts

  •  Месяц назад

    I quite often change gears when exiting a roundabout, but I will usually accelerate in 4th, and then skip 5th unless I'm going to be cruising there. But sure, hands down it's never going to be as efficient as an auto 😁

  • @Omarock
    @Omarock 2 месяца назад

    12:24 one of the reasons why manuals are more reliable, because you can do what you described without slipping the clutch (or touching the accelerator) and still have superior control in stop and go traffic. You can let the car creep forward in 1st or 2nd gear completely off the clutch, but you have to be careful with the accelerator on 1st gear (sudden lift off is brutal).

  • @Mandrla_M
    @Mandrla_M 2 месяца назад +1

    you gotta dance with the manual, feels more rewarding. Theres much more to learn and some people want that. For me its not about going as fast as i can but about having more fun.

  • @0versun0
    @0versun0 2 месяца назад +2

    1 thing you don't understand about cvt, subaru cvt gearboxes a lot of fun and reliability. :)

    • @MidnightGreen4649
      @MidnightGreen4649 2 месяца назад

      this is 100% true in the case of the WRX, though it is worth knowing you NEED to change your fluid every 30k or so miles. In the U.S. they are billed as lifetime fluid which is of course BS.

    • @0versun0
      @0versun0 2 месяца назад +1

      @@MidnightGreen4649 remember 1 thing, all difficult condition may be proper maintained in case of wrx, rs etc, if you use it in corner edge conditions, it's best practice.

  • @barrielui
    @barrielui Месяц назад

    Most CVT 'unpleasantness' is down to the lack of engine power. Any automatic transmission will struggle in a city car with horsepower less than 80. Torque converter will perform similarly poor, and there's basically no DCT offering. A car with 150hp or more (something like 1.8L NA or 1.5L turbo engine) drives decently good with CVT.

  • @Grafyte
    @Grafyte 2 месяца назад +5

    2:21 Toyota's e-CVT is darn good. No torque converter. No belt. A planetary gearset driven by 2 electric motors and the engine. They're practically indestructible and they do exactly what you want when you want.

  • @ExertGames
    @ExertGames 2 месяца назад +3

    Why you saying automatic like that

  • @KrupekXD
    @KrupekXD 2 месяца назад

    you are selling me on getting an auto as first car, but still doing manual license ofc, checked some auto cars and damn insurance pricey, they all like that? or you got an auto in mind that maybe could work as a first car? great vid mate

    • @oribt1
      @oribt1 23 дня назад

      I would highly reccomend starting with a manual, stick shift car. It is a lot more involved with the driving and better fuel economy

  • @kye.warrer
    @kye.warrer 2 месяца назад

    Never realised that some DCT gearboxes move when you take your foot off the brake. My M2 doesn't.

    • @maripyter
      @maripyter 2 месяца назад

      they do and personally I find it really annoying at times,

  • @Qbert2030
    @Qbert2030 Месяц назад +1

    Wth was with the blur box and then the weird animation effect at the end...

  • @RSG11111
    @RSG11111 2 месяца назад +1

    You should really research the fourth type of automatic transmissions, Toyota / Lexus so-called eCVTs, which are not like your other CVTs, but essentially a totally different type of transmission. I think 'planetary gearset' or epicyclic gear train is a more proper name for them.

    • @MidnightGreen4649
      @MidnightGreen4649 2 месяца назад

      most automatics use planetary gears. If I'm not mistaken, the Toyota Corolla has a CVT with a traditional first gear to help with acceleration from a stop.

  • @polluxsimracing3712
    @polluxsimracing3712 2 месяца назад

    My bimmer on manual on ds always except when i want to save 1 or 2 liters per mile😂

  • @jaidensky5738
    @jaidensky5738 2 месяца назад +1

    man i could make a series on "3 things mick doesn't understand about X"

    • @azulao8942
      @azulao8942 2 месяца назад

      You need to hang out with him I could make a million videos on him 😂

  • @craigstevenson6565
    @craigstevenson6565 2 месяца назад

    The newer 10th gen + honda cvts are better than ever before. I have had zero issues with mine (2018)

  • @kreigindexzensur
    @kreigindexzensur 2 месяца назад +1

    Well, I dont have manual mode :(

  • @Joe-born1986
    @Joe-born1986 2 месяца назад

    I have a Megane tce 160edc. Opshifting is slow.

  • @PointyYT
    @PointyYT 2 месяца назад +2

    So interesting that you pronounce "Auto" correctly but say "Otamatic"

  • @kurtgabbidon2666
    @kurtgabbidon2666 2 месяца назад

    What car is the guy driving?

  • @anubhavgupta3370
    @anubhavgupta3370 2 месяца назад

    Most car makers are leaning towards CVT nowadays including Honda and Toyota, known to make reliable engines. Though agree they may not be very fun to drive.

  • @Gazzxy
    @Gazzxy 2 месяца назад +1

    theres also single clutch, and a frew variations of that.
    also cvts are fine when build properly. the way they bastardised them for consumer cars, and for whatever reason put simulated shifting in. they mostly better for lower power stuff,
    but they are also used in HUGE excevation and mining equipment, but they are nowhere near related to those nasty rubber things in cars.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  2 месяца назад

      Oh wow I completely forgot about single clutch autos!

    • @jancervinka7424
      @jancervinka7424 2 месяца назад

      And also forgot about planetary gear transmission and robotized manual.

    • @Gazzxy
      @Gazzxy 2 месяца назад

      @@jancervinka7424 planetary gears falll under torque converter... i guess generally.
      robotized manual, kinda encompases everything else except cvt

  • @LucasOQ
    @LucasOQ Месяц назад

    12:36 The torque converter was made to slip!

  • @Omarock
    @Omarock 2 месяца назад

    Can you money shift in manual mode?

  • @bmw867
    @bmw867 2 месяца назад

    Honda makes most relaible cvt automatic tramsmission❤

  • @GaMeON159753456
    @GaMeON159753456 2 месяца назад

    My issue with autos is that I absolutely hate the fact that I cannot skip gears. Let’s say I’m in 7th gear, but I decide I want to do a hard pull for which I need 4th. In a proper manual, I can just go down to whatever gear I want immediately, but in an auto I need to switch sequentially. This feels absolutely horrible.

    • @vahlokprime3175
      @vahlokprime3175 2 месяца назад +1

      The auto dsg box on an audi rs3 allows you to go down several gears at once. If you hold the left pedal for a second or two, it automatically goes down 2 or even 3 gears to give you the best rpms for acceleration immediatly. Idk about other cars but there must be more cars that can do that.

  • @ENVI1992
    @ENVI1992 2 месяца назад

    I drive a manual and shift into 5th-6th gear when crusing on 20-30 mph roads...cost of living and all

  • @XclusiveAaron
    @XclusiveAaron 2 месяца назад +1

    Oat-o-matic sounds like a new Starbucks vegan friendly drink or something 🤣 but in all seriousness sorry to comment I had to🤣 but Excel video as always 👍

  • @JohnnyMQB
    @JohnnyMQB 2 месяца назад

    We might as well get used to them now it will be the future afterall as electrics car are only 2 pedals,loving my dsg 94k trouble free.

  • @UKDagnar
    @UKDagnar 2 месяца назад

    Arrrgghhh couldn't cope with the Oh To Matic rediculousness :(

  • @worrywart1311
    @worrywart1311 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank heaves we don't have otomatic transmissions where I come from; they sound dreadful. We have automatic ones and they are fine, including the trouble-free CVT on a six-cylinder Subaru I've been driving for 9 years.

  • @Shub_457
    @Shub_457 2 месяца назад +1

    6:18 6:57 bro is edging the car...😭😭

  • @bargainbincatgirl6698
    @bargainbincatgirl6698 2 месяца назад +1

    Man, I have an electric car. I have no idea how the torque and speed adjustments are done in my car.
    I think is all software-dependent because is the electric engine that can do most of the things that and engine-transmisson do in an ICE car.

    • @kamilowski272
      @kamilowski272 2 месяца назад +1

      in electric cars theres is only 1 gear with no clutch, so you dont need to worry about any of that

  • @carmadnoah2689
    @carmadnoah2689 2 месяца назад +1

    I love the video's, but if you have pass your test in a automatic car then isn't it trure that you can't use manual mode? Because you need a manual licence for this

    • @gavinsmith9016
      @gavinsmith9016 2 месяца назад +2

      No, the car is still classed as an automatic as it has no clutch pedal.

    • @blanchimont5587
      @blanchimont5587 2 месяца назад +1

      that's BS, no way to monitor it. all autos with manual modes have fail-safes, u can't money shift them. your test or driving instructor will tell you to use the automatic mode, but once you have your license do whatever you want in the bounds of the law.

    • @carmadnoah2689
      @carmadnoah2689 2 месяца назад +2

      Thanks again for answering my question

    • @marks7197
      @marks7197 2 месяца назад

      Ha ha, manual mode in an automatic isn't manual in any way shape or form. It requires zero skill, mechanical sympathy or anything. They even change up or down regardless to save damage, even you don't do it yourself. Don't listen to this idiot, I'd suggest he's never driven anything other than a modern car with a clutch that's like an on/off switch rather than anything with any travel.

    • @MickDrivesCars
      @MickDrivesCars  2 месяца назад +1

      Not at all! It's still an automatic transmission. You can use any mode you like.

  • @davidsanderson2960
    @davidsanderson2960 2 месяца назад

    The paddles are better than manual mode on the shifter. I always go with paddles but also the kickback you get in 6th and goes to 4th then 5th then whoosh, you're off. No manual can compare with that.

  • @e1fys_world
    @e1fys_world 2 месяца назад +4

    Awooo-timatic 🐺🐺🐺

  • @JohnCarlyle
    @JohnCarlyle 2 месяца назад

    8:02 "If you just put it in auto, it's a miserable experience" :)

  • @sobrany
    @sobrany 2 месяца назад +2

    oatamatic 🗿

  • @kingxerg6854
    @kingxerg6854 2 месяца назад

    so in short:
    1. the fun of auto is making it a manual
    2. dont hold the clutch halfway unnecessarily
    3. the car will drive in the highest possible gear + not knowing that yes, maual drivers do that all the time

  • @jacobdavy2188
    @jacobdavy2188 2 месяца назад

    wrong about the whole gear selection thing. every time you said "no manual driver would ever do that" i do only when not driving fun though

  • @iradiakalenz4225
    @iradiakalenz4225 2 месяца назад

    "...if you like the video - like the video"
    done, captain.

  • @abcorr88
    @abcorr88 2 месяца назад

    So to make an automatic fun you switch it to manual, got it 👌

  • @davidmoore4615
    @davidmoore4615 2 месяца назад

    That's some short gearing you have if it's nudging 6k rpm in third at only 72kph... 🙃🙃🙃

  • @KEV19019
    @KEV19019 2 месяца назад +2

    Nice video🔥 i am a only automatic driver, my license only allows automatic. Here in germany you can do a license for automatic cars only, dont know about great britain. Its more expensive tho... But manual is useless to me. You are still a car guy with automatic, i got a 2012 bmw 120d sport, with the steptronic 8 speed gearbox. I am in love with it, dont want a different one, altho with more mileage, like mine with about 130.000 kilometers with still the original gearbox in there, it jerks a lot when its cold, and you drive in the city. But b roads, autobahn are amazing... 184hp is not enough for me, but its not Nothing either😁 taking it to the Hockenheimring and Nordschleife Touristenfahrten this year... Lets see how it does, hopefully doesnt break anything

    • @blanchimont5587
      @blanchimont5587 2 месяца назад

      i wouldn't rule out manual. if you can get your hands on a manual car/ get a license i'd recommend it. modern manuals aren't as good because they can rev hang and auto blip and the shifters aren't as engaging, but trust me, if you get in the right manual transmission car with good controls and minimal driver aids and a relatively light flywheel, no automatic comes close to the driving enjoyment. driving a curvy mountain road heel toeing and nailing up shifts is as satisfying as it gets, though this does depend on the car, like i said a lot of modern manuals don't hit the mark and the auto equivalents can actually be more fun.
      in the case of BMWs, autos are on par or better lmao, when i talk about 'manual cars being unmatched' i am talking about everything from an MX5 to an s2000 and a lotus elise; manual BMWs can be fun but you are not missing out on much. Manual BMWs tend to have heavy flywheels and long throw shifters with a vague shift feel, usable but not ideal. good luck with your track trips, make sure the cooling system is up to scratch and monitor oil levels, the nords will put that little 120d through it's paces lol, be sure to have mechanical sympathy XD

    • @KEV19019
      @KEV19019 2 месяца назад

      @@blanchimont5587 you say little 120d, but talk about s2000🤣 those cars are even smaller, no one takes them serious, even with 300hp where you already feel like a racedriver. Try driving the new M4 competition, audi R8 or Tesla Model y with 800HP. I drove these cars for a day too, thats a lot better than old, manual shitboxes. Its just not fun to me. If i wanted, i could learn driving them for sure

    • @blanchimont5587
      @blanchimont5587 2 месяца назад

      ​@@KEV19019 never meant to insult your car lol. just in the context of the Nordschleife it does make a 120d little it makes many cars 'little' i.e under powered (this includes an MX5). doesn't mean you can't have fun in it or its 'inferior' but it's most certainly not in it's element at such a large circuit (taking an under powered car and pushing it to it's limit is it's own challenge and reward tbh)
      sorry for offending you and hopefully you understand everything else i said and someday have a go at rowing your own gears the proper way :)

    • @KEV19019
      @KEV19019 2 месяца назад

      @@blanchimont5587 i am not offended, and yeah, of course my car is not made for tracks and it will be slow. But still fun... Renting cars made for the track is more expensive than just using my own car, i am saving up for a new one, my 3rd one, bought cash. While others my age flex with new mercedes from their parents that they have a lease for and are probably in huge debt🤣 not me. Never🔥

    • @PointNemo9
      @PointNemo9 2 месяца назад

      Try driving a manual, it will blow your mind.

  • @moondrop_5019
    @moondrop_5019 2 месяца назад

    CVT is the best🎉🎉🎉

  • @SpikeInfinity
    @SpikeInfinity 2 месяца назад +1

    The number one thing he doesn't understand about automatic transmissions is how to pronounce the word automatic.

  • @aroni992
    @aroni992 2 месяца назад +1

    2 month ago I watched your video about spirited drive. So I went on a trip, valleys, foresty road, 60-70km/h on a 90km/h limit. Totally enjoyed the drive. Now my car is in ruin because a romanian lorry was there. After this I dunno why I watched this video aswell.

    • @PointNemo9
      @PointNemo9 2 месяца назад +2

      Sorry about your car. But yes, this guy's "spirited driving" is quite dangerous on public roads. You should read my comment on his recent "late to work" video, he doesn't know how to safely drive quickly on roads.

    • @marks7197
      @marks7197 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@PointNemo9Every video he does he further confirms he's a clueless Muppet, what's more staggering is how people think he's worth listening to.

  • @streetfightertutorial
    @streetfightertutorial 2 месяца назад

    You know what? An automatic maybe funny to operate and more efficient for gas consumption but nothing fells like a good old 6 speed manual which by the way should last as long as the entire vehicle if you treat it properly.

  • @denbrewers
    @denbrewers Месяц назад

    There are three things that I still don't understand... :-) ;-) :-)