have to say Tilly you are probably the only person I would rate -- you give the facts -- your shooting skills and honesty are exemplary -- in a world of flim-flam artists that's rare thank you question would you go into the world of testing rifles ? or would that not be a step too far?
Thanks for the kind words mate. Im being regularly asked to do some in depth rifle reviews and testing,the biggest issue I've got is I need to do that without being supported by shops or manufacturers so I have full control over the content,be it good or bad performance. I don't have the budget right now to buy the stuff for review and extended testing. I'm not sure what the answer to that is just yet,but when I can raise the funds... I'm game if you lot are...😉 Cheers!
I have to tell you, it’s pretty entertaining watching a guy of your caliber shooting such shotty pellets. Haha!! I do appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos. It really points out why we pay a primo price for the primo pellets. Keep up the good work!!
In my experience 2 groups plus flyers is a good tin of Gamo pellets...Dont even risk them at 10 to 12 yards close ratting.None of my guns like them, even the 7.5 joules Diana. Rats love em.Another good video, so thanks again. Keith
Hi mate,I wasn't sure I'd have been able to keep them safely in the 17cm trap at 25yds hence pulling them back to only 15 paces. Disappointing performance really ☹️
Great review. Guess these pellets are lethal on ill tempered cans at 10 yards😄. But I have a Daisy 1999 BB gun that kills cans at 17 yards, ten times per penny! Need better pellets for pest control... Thanks again Tilly!
Here in the states these come in a four pack the hunter, magnum, country, and Ts-22 I bought 10 packs with my gen 1 swarm some years ago. Even with the gun they were partially made for even it didn't like them. I have had mild success with the hunters outta other rifles. Overall I really don't care for them. Nothing against gamo or bsa just facts. Thank you for sharing.
Many thanks. Guess these Gamo pellets may shoot fractionally better in other barrels but you’re review certainly highlighted the anomalies of this cheap range of pellets. Look forward to you Tilly Testing some BSA pellets, never used them but occasionally considered giving them a try.
Hi mate, yeah possibly the odd barrel that might be acceptable with them but with such broad tolerances ,it's debatable wether anything will be 'decent' shame as they are a good price
i follwed your advice from one of your last video's and went for the somewhat harder pellets than the traditional lead pellets, i got som H&N baracuda 15's(15,89gr) and some snowpeak round(15,90gr) and trhe results at short distances were more accurate than with lead pellets, wil test them this week at 35m at my local shooting club thanks!
My Steyr LG110FT actually groups with the super cheap Eley Wasp out to 40 yrds.. After 40 yrds they tumble and scatter. The Steyr isnt pellet fussy at all.. It just has to be clean. Every 200 to 300 pellets it needs a barrel clean and all is good. Apparently its a feature and the joys of having a stainless steel barrel
Yep that's Steyr life for you.... Interesting one for you, a number of years ago we built a bunch of bsa hornets with ev2 barrels. In the hornet action(actually a really decent bit of kit) the barrels all only went a few hundred shots before needing cleaning. One of the same barrels ended up going back Into a MK3 ev2. Barely ever needed cleaning. The loading probe arrangement and typical reg pressures can have a surprise effect on barrel cleaning/fouling.😉
Gamo Tomahawk Expansion 7.56gr work well in my break barrel rifles. Don't know if you can get them "your side of the pond" but might be worth a look. Edit they are the ONLY Gamo that has been decent in the ones Ive tried.
Have you tried the new wasp pellets? Same as Webley VMX afaik too. Putting them next to the Excite Hammer pellets they look and feel almost identical, apart from not having the fluted skirts on the wasps. Very hard pellets but well made and very very cheap. Could be an interesting comparison video. I hear they can suit some barrels quite well. No luck with them through my 99s though. I keep going back to RWS Superdomes for cheaper plinking pellets as out to about 30 yards they all go through the same hole.
When I started I used cheap pellets & by accident (price) I bought H&N, excite, hammer & spike. Backyard plinking, I haven’t found anything else that works as well, you will have to try out the 500ml & 2ltr exploding bottles, tops available at all good shops 😂🤣😂
@@tillysgunstocks Sorry for the late reply, Yes, they worked well for me & my coyote, plus they’re just under 8 grains, not a bad weight & as with most H&N quality control pretty good too
Makes you wonder if manufacturers actually test their pellets in rifles. Those close up photos certainly showed some pretty rough features due to inconsistent swaging process. I do use the BSA Goldstar quite a lot and they do shoot reasonably well in my R10.
Morning mate, I doubt there's any money to spare for testing tbh. The actual manufacturing cost must be minimal, especially given all the mouths to feed on the way to us end users. Are the bsa gold stars h&n ftt? Wise choice if they are. Them 10x pellets could well be an h&n rebrand,they are significantly better than most the gamo range.
@@tillysgunstocks Yes mate, I believe that they are a rebrand of the h&n ftt. 4.52 mm head and 8.64 gr. Wouldn't have thought it would cost a company, the size of Gamo, to throw a few tins to some local shooters to get some feedback. Almost tempted to buy a tin myself to see if they are just as bad.
Used something similar in early 70's advertised as a rabbit hunting pellet (jackel I think). Tried them in several BSA's, a paratrooper, and weihrauch 35E, you couldn't use them as you had no idea beyond 10m where they would hit. Looks like they are no better.
I’ve been shooting about a year shot about 25 tins of gamo pro hunter in 22. And only one miss shaped pellet. Granted a few loose. But 4.50 a tin. I agree Aa n jsb a bit more consistent for twice as much. 😂
Check out the h&n vids mate. The Econ versions.. really Impressive for not much money 😉 They set the bar for all the other brands to aim for at the entry level pricing...
The phrase, "you pay for what you get " when talking about pellets, cannot be bettered.. But even then, why pay through the nose for tin can shooting @ 10yrds... Horses or courses..
Gamo pellets are worse than shooting small stones. Gamo pellet tins are full of SHIT bits or lead and other dirt. Lots of deformed pellets and sizes/ weights are all around the place. Some of them just fall thru my barrel and others from the same tin are too big to simply push in and need to be forced in to the barrel.
have to say Tilly you are probably the only person I would rate -- you give the facts -- your shooting skills and honesty are exemplary -- in a world of flim-flam artists that's rare thank you
question would you go into the world of testing rifles ? or would that not be a step too far?
Thanks for the kind words mate. Im being regularly asked to do some in depth rifle reviews and testing,the biggest issue I've got is I need to do that without being supported by shops or manufacturers so I have full control over the content,be it good or bad performance.
I don't have the budget right now to buy the stuff for review and extended testing.
I'm not sure what the answer to that is just yet,but when I can raise the funds... I'm game if you lot are...😉 Cheers!
I have to tell you, it’s pretty entertaining watching a guy of your caliber shooting such shotty pellets. Haha!! I do appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos. It really points out why we pay a primo price for the primo pellets. Keep up the good work!!
Cheers mate, I really enjoy it especially the weird and wonderful pellet tests. One day there will be something that amazes us all...I hope 🤔
In my experience 2 groups plus flyers is a good tin of Gamo pellets...Dont even risk them at 10 to 12 yards close ratting.None of my guns like them, even the 7.5 joules Diana. Rats love em.Another good video, so thanks again. Keith
Hi mate,I wasn't sure I'd have been able to keep them safely in the 17cm trap at 25yds hence pulling them back to only 15 paces. Disappointing performance really ☹️
Great review. Guess these pellets are lethal on ill tempered cans at 10 yards😄. But I have a Daisy 1999 BB gun that kills cans at 17 yards, ten times per penny! Need better pellets for pest control... Thanks again Tilly!
🤣😂 that's made me laugh mate.. the budget h&n are a much better option it turns out... cans at 45yds with a bit of luck thrown in for good measure 😉
Here in the states these come in a four pack the hunter, magnum, country, and Ts-22 I bought 10 packs with my gen 1 swarm some years ago. Even with the gun they were partially made for even it didn't like them. I have had mild success with the hunters outta other rifles. Overall I really don't care for them. Nothing against gamo or bsa just facts. Thank you for sharing.
Many thanks. Guess these Gamo pellets may shoot fractionally better in other barrels but you’re review certainly highlighted the anomalies of this cheap range of pellets. Look forward to you Tilly Testing some BSA pellets, never used them but occasionally considered giving them a try.
Hi mate, yeah possibly the odd barrel that might be acceptable with them but with such broad tolerances ,it's debatable wether anything will be 'decent' shame as they are a good price
The BSA pellets aren't too bad and certainly a nice cheaper option
Thx 4 the vid, always useful info 🧐
Think you could get a tighter group with a 410 at 15 paces than the magnums!
i follwed your advice from one of your last video's and went for the somewhat harder pellets than the traditional lead pellets, i got som H&N baracuda 15's(15,89gr) and some snowpeak round(15,90gr) and trhe results at short distances were more accurate than with lead pellets, wil test them this week at 35m at my local shooting club thanks!
Awesome news mate. Glad you're getting the performance you need now 😉
My Steyr LG110FT actually groups with the super cheap Eley Wasp out to 40 yrds..
After 40 yrds they tumble and scatter.
The Steyr isnt pellet fussy at all.. It just has to be clean.
Every 200 to 300 pellets it needs a barrel clean and all is good.
Apparently its a feature and the joys of having a stainless steel barrel
Yep that's Steyr life for you.... Interesting one for you, a number of years ago we built a bunch of bsa hornets with ev2 barrels. In the hornet action(actually a really decent bit of kit) the barrels all only went a few hundred shots before needing cleaning. One of the same barrels ended up going back Into a MK3 ev2. Barely ever needed cleaning. The loading probe arrangement and typical reg pressures can have a surprise effect on barrel cleaning/fouling.😉
@@tillysgunstocks my daystate CRX is an early one with a BSA barrel.
That thing never needs cleaning.
Gamo Tomahawk Expansion 7.56gr work well in my break barrel rifles. Don't know if you can get them "your side of the pond" but might be worth a look. Edit they are the ONLY Gamo that has been decent in the ones Ive tried.
I'll keep an eye out for some to try mate. I have a few mates your side that can find me things 😉
Have you tried the new wasp pellets? Same as Webley VMX afaik too. Putting them next to the Excite Hammer pellets they look and feel almost identical, apart from not having the fluted skirts on the wasps. Very hard pellets but well made and very very cheap. Could be an interesting comparison video. I hear they can suit some barrels quite well. No luck with them through my 99s though. I keep going back to RWS Superdomes for cheaper plinking pellets as out to about 30 yards they all go through the same hole.
I've not tried them mate, the next ones will likely be the h&n hammers. Hopefully they are good for 25yds or so. Certainly a favourable price...
When I started I used cheap pellets & by accident (price) I bought H&N, excite, hammer & spike. Backyard plinking, I haven’t found anything else that works as well, you will have to try out the 500ml & 2ltr exploding bottles, tops available at all good shops 😂🤣😂
The Excite Spike 22 group surprisingly well for me also in my Notos. And 4ish a tin on Amazon when they are in stock.
Hi mate, where the hammer any good? I want to give them a test on here 😉
@@tillysgunstocks
Sorry for the late reply, Yes, they worked well for me & my coyote, plus they’re just under 8 grains, not a bad weight & as with most H&N quality control pretty good too
Makes you wonder if manufacturers actually test their pellets in rifles. Those close up photos certainly showed some pretty rough features due to inconsistent swaging process. I do use the BSA Goldstar quite a lot and they do shoot reasonably well in my R10.
Morning mate, I doubt there's any money to spare for testing tbh. The actual manufacturing cost must be minimal, especially given all the mouths to feed on the way to us end users.
Are the bsa gold stars h&n ftt? Wise choice if they are.
Them 10x pellets could well be an h&n rebrand,they are significantly better than most the gamo range.
@@tillysgunstocks Yes mate, I believe that they are a rebrand of the h&n ftt. 4.52 mm head and 8.64 gr. Wouldn't have thought it would cost a company, the size of Gamo, to throw a few tins to some local shooters to get some feedback. Almost tempted to buy a tin myself to see if they are just as bad.
n1 bud thanks
Any further than 15 paces, and you'd have a shotgun group.
Used something similar in early 70's advertised as a rabbit hunting pellet (jackel I think).
Tried them in several BSA's, a paratrooper, and weihrauch 35E, you couldn't use them as you had no idea beyond 10m where they would hit.
Looks like they are no better.
@@mikepattinson3285 I remember jackel jets
I’ve been shooting about a year shot about 25 tins of gamo pro hunter in 22. And only one miss shaped pellet. Granted a few loose. But 4.50 a tin. I agree Aa n jsb a bit more consistent for twice as much. 😂
Check out the h&n vids mate. The Econ versions.. really Impressive for not much money 😉
They set the bar for all the other brands to aim for at the entry level pricing...
@@tillysgunstocks I get it . I’m not in Olympic team.
Forgive me for my ignorance, but why do you use the glove?
Nice vid, BTW, thank you!
Marko
Hi mate, the glove cuts down a lot of the pulse movement in my left hand ,which is ofcourse supporting the rear end of the rifle 😉
@@tillysgunstocks
Nice, I don't think I saw someone use it before, so that clears it now. Cheers!
APOLO brand from Argentina seem to be good cheap pellets. Not perfect like jsb but close enough to shoot good.
Any chance that you could try qys pellets
I did a few last year mate, will revisit them again though 😉
The phrase, "you pay for what you get " when talking about pellets, cannot be bettered.. But even then, why pay through the nose for tin can shooting @ 10yrds... Horses or courses..
Gamo pellets are worse than shooting small stones.
Gamo pellet tins are full of SHIT bits or lead and other dirt. Lots of deformed pellets and sizes/ weights are all around the place. Some of them just fall thru my barrel and others from the same tin are too big to simply push in and need to be forced in to the barrel.
All those gamo pellets should be melted down & the lead bars given to QYS to make decent airgun pellets.😂😂😂
🤣 You're a bad man...I did laugh!
If it can't group at 15 paces. Well I can't justify 80 grit san paper loading into the barrel. I just cringed.. Ewwwww😂