The cheapest air rifle pellets are actually amazing! ..for the money
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Accuracy testing the H&N econ 2 flat head budget pellets..
Despite the incredibly modest price the short range performance is really very good and they would make a great short range pest control pellet as well as being perfect for shooting in confined spaces such as the garden
these work well in springer rifles aswell as air pistols and at under £4 a tin they are perfect for long days plinking and informal target shooting
I used the Airmaks Katran and the Anschutz 9015 and got carried away so ended up plinking my custom spinners and busting some cans..
My 1975 Webly Ospray 177 supertarget loves these H&N Excites.
Just finished rebuilding a bsa meteor will definitely be trying these out.
Perfect explanation of why I always have a couple of tins on hand for spur of the moment mint humbug massacres with the girls 😊 cheers once again 👍
Mint humbugs you say 🤔 do they explode? ..asking for a friend 🫣
Tesco ones do with enough of a sticky centre to prevent "vaporisation".
Watch your "friend" though, they're for shootin' not scoffin' 😂
Wow! Super cheap pellet test AND future self build high power rifle builds……there’s no stopping you 👍 This has to be one if the best air gun shooting channels available. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into your projects.
Morning nick, loads going on as per usual mate. There's some really cool projects planned for the future and hopefully plenty of fun stuff along the way 😉
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Cheers, like so many others I do like the fun stuff, similar to what I get up to 😁
As a .22 fan when I could still see to hit a target. I used to use
RWS Hobby flatheads as my light pellets and Ely Wasp for anything else. I never thought of pellets as an expensive item until they came out with steelheads.
Yes, another budget pellet shoot out!! This was the one I was waiting for.
Cheers mate, I've been getting all a bit nerdy of late looking for microscopic gains, I'd forgotten to be just having fun! It was a great day ripping these downrange 😎
@tillysgunstocks Bang for the buck you can't go wrong. When i'm not shooting barracuda 8s, I like the hammers too!
These pellets are amazing for their price. When I shoot them with my scoped and rested HW40 I make groups like yours at 15 meters. A German content creator once made a test of a whole range of low budget pellets and he weighed a certain number of each can. At the time he used the predecessor (same name but without the II). They seemed to have the lowest variation rate in individual weight. They ended up at the top of the ranking too. So, also by my own experience, the Excite Econ II is definitely a very good budget round both for training and plinking, at least up to 10 or 15 meters.
I done extensive testing with the pellets, I would not recommend pest control beyond 10 yards.
A pleasure to watch. Well done, 👍
Cheers mate, I really enjoyed this one. Was fun to just be out and nothing too serious.just a good old plinking session 😉
That looks like a lot of fun. It's good to see you having fun again. Keep up the good work looking forward to your next video
Thanks mate,it was great to be out just enjoying myself. The next few vids should be nice,fun and chilled out similar to this one 😉
I like it when the letter Z is said as if it were a word. Zed. I can’t explain why. But it’s cool.
Zee, Aye, Bee, Oh, Pee, etc.
Brilliant, fun, and informative video, you proved you don't have to spend a mint to have fun!!! Cheers for that 👍
I sure had fun on this one mate. Sometimes I forget what it's all about...
Got these diabolos in an on-pack with a Diana Chaser Rifle (with Co2-capsules and the diabolos).. I'm impressed with the precision for this low price (~5€/can 👌).
Thanks for the introduction!
I use these Pellets at my local gun club on the pistol range 10 Mt.
I use a 1968 west German Record pistol and it loves these Pellets .
I use them for Target Sprint practice & competition. Surprisingly good pellets!
Target sprint? Rather you than me mate 🥵 don't think I'm fit enough for that 🤣
Try also RWS Basic and Hobby they are great pellets for their price.
I've not tried the flat headed rws in years,but I've always been a big fan of the rws dome heads for sensible priced mid range work 😉
Another good video, haven't seen one yet that would cause me to switch it off. Very interested in upcoming hi-power videos. Thank you sir👍
Thanks for being a part of the channel mate 😀 it's a bit of a random selection of content on here,but I like a bit of variety. I'm struggling with the new camera and editing of late but hoping to get ontop of that and up the quality a bit. There's some really cool stuff planned for the future and I'm super excited to bring you all along 😉
Great content 👌
Cheers mate, we all love a chilled out pellet test vid 😎
Those are also outdoor cards at the end, I shoot the 25 yard white centres for air rifle .177 and rimfire .22lr, and there's similar for 50 metres rimfire, and also larger 100 yard/100 metre rimfire, for ISSF (NSRA) Benchrest. However WBSF (UKBRA) is completely different targets at 100 yards rimfire/centre fire, and completely different benchrest equipment/rests.
I've tried a few of the excite pellets, not amazing but can't argue with the price at all. For 20yard tin cans they are absolutely spot on. Well made and clean in the tin. Also... I don't know why but they smell like a garden centre and it reminds me of my youth 😂
A lot of my club mates use those for shooting IPAS with co2 pistols. I prefer the RWS Geco which are a similar weight, about 7 grains, but seem to be a tad more accurate. Another great video!
Cheers mate, I really enjoyed this one. Some half decent budget ammo and busting some cans is still such great fun even though we ( I ) often get sidetracked looking for millimeter precision. I'll stick the geco on my list to try in the future.😉
I use those excite pellets in my co2 pistols and my sig mcx they're pretty good in all. But my springers and pcps seem to like some thing a bit heavier.
Umarex mosquitos aren't to bad either, and still quite cheap.
Good stuff. We have the same pellets over here, called Ecole de Tir, but peering at the tin they are H and N .In the CFX they give a one inch group at 20yds, amazing for the price.The Rat Gamo is 22 though and not easy to find a relaible cheap pellet for it.We are OK up to nearly 15fpe here, and the extra power(if the gun actually gets near that !! ) does alter the accuracy of lighter pellets. Good luck with the yet more projects. All the best Keith.
Hi mate, have you tried the flat heads at lower powers? Typically it seems the best performance is in the sub 6ftlb rifles and a lot of pistols seem to do really well, they will usually also be only around 4-5ftlb
I can't back any of my rigs off that much,but when I've a suitable test rig I'll give it a go 😉
Hi Tilly, excellent vid, I’ve been using H&N excite in my Gamo Coyote from day 1, at 18 meters I’m putting them within a pound, give or take the odd flyer, only bin shooting for a year or so, & I’m made up with that 😁
That's great news mate, are you running a magazine or single shot loader?
@@tillysgunstocks I’m running 3 magazines, getting 90 shots per fill, the coyote is my first pcp ( never forget your first 😂🤣😂) once dialled in, pretty accurate, so you’re getting your FAC, nice, you’ll be shooting at 500 hundred yards then
You might also try Yorkshire Targets, those are the hardest one's in the UK, they are not ISSF or WBSF.
Also, use 10 metre air rifle sighter targets at 25 yards for practice, its psychology, practice on smaller targets and then shoot the ISSF 25 yard targets and it all looks a lot easier.
I use the 10 metre air rifle targets at 25 yards/50 metres, and 25 yard air rifle targets at 100 yards before shooting proper ISSF 100 yard/100 metre targets.
When the wasp pellets were made by eley they were brilliant and super constant in weight at a super budget price, sadly now they are a shadow of their former self.
Lovely content as always. I tested the exite pellets through my brocock and they were good over my 17 yards,but I also tried supermags witch were better and then tried Bisley practice pellets witch were very good. Both are fairly cheap.supermags about 8 to 9 quid. But Bisley practice are 6 quid and we'll worth testing especially over shorter ranges.i did try gamo flathead as well but not Great. Looking forward to your next video.😊
I've just spotted an h&n practice version , it's a little dearer but still very reasonable. I bet they are the same as the ones they sell to bisley.
There's also a dome headed equivalent,I think I'll grab some of them to try as they might be a little better for the mid ranges maybe🤔
I use these in my HW77, and can spin golf balls at 50 yards with them on my local range.
Grouping is not bad either.
Excite are brilliant, great value👍
As you say they are really rated by the 10M pistol guys. I use Bisley practice for 10M (which are H&N Sport). However plan is when I run out of Bisley Practice I will change to Econ II's. Great video
Morning mate, i was really pleasantly surprised by them. The most noticeable thing compared the usual comedy budget pellets was although the groups opened up with range(obviously) there was none of them random flyers that really can spoil a day. It was really windy for filming too so I really can't complain, at the price.
It was so fun just going back to basics and splatting the spinners, something that I've kind of overlooked of late..
Great review as always! I suppose it's down to individual barrels but my BSA Scorpion hates these & my Ultra SE loves them! Conversely both are fantastic with the nearly as cheap RWS Hobby's. Funny old game!
Its a funny old game eh... 2 seemingly identical rigs can shoot polar opposite ammo. You'd think by now we would have worked out why... But no 🤔
It's fun finding out though...
Interesting, My GX250 also turns into a really slow shotgun with these.
Nice I'm looking for some cheap pellets for my leshiy 2 for plinking will have to give these a try 😀.
You're going to need plenty to keep you going mate 🤣 there's also a dome headed equivalent which could be worth a try and only a little dearer per tin 😉
Ι get these from my 10m shooting club at 6€/box and use them for my Steyr LP10 pistol (5.4 ft lbr), my HW35 break barrel rifle (11.5 ft lbr) and my Walter LGV break barrel rifle (5.5 ft lbr) and yes they are excellent for the price. Max distances 25-35 m but with the hw35 can shoot shotgun shells up to 50m
I don't think I'd be able to hit a barn door with these at 50..maybe I should try(with a nice large backstop)
As you say a great pellet for plinking but we did try them at my club for 7m bell target and they proved not to be as good as the Hobby’s. In fact it be great to see you do a comparison.
I reckon a budget pellet mega test would be a good idea mate 😉
Use them a lot in my
co2 guns great budget pellet. Try out the exact hammer 177 they're also a good budget pellet.
I should have ordered some of the hammer at the same time as the Econs.
I'll add some onto my next pellet order to give them a try thanks!
love ur videos keep them coming
Thanks for watching mate, this was great fun to film. Light-hearted and a great chilled out afternoon splatting spinners.
In the states another bargain pellet is the Norma brand, they give JSB a run for the $, Cant beat the excite either many of my lower power guns do great with them also.
I've had a few of the norma ones to test here mate. I wasn't overly impressed really. The bog standard superdomes ran better through my barrels at our typical sub12 speeds. Maybe they need a little extra to get the best of them. I do rate the rws made stuff though as a very good mid range and mid price option😉
The secret's out then eh? ;)
The Econ II is a superb budget pellet and punches way over it's price point. They used to be £2.99 a tin so at a few pennies under £30 a sleeve I bought a shedload of them and still have about 30 tins left.
They are brilliant for 10m in particular. I've compared them to the usual flathead pellets (JSB Target, R10 Match, H&N Finale, Meisterkugeln etc) and there's not much in it between them.
The r10 match used to be a great short range option in the old MMC BSA ultra. Out to 20yds under the nv it was superb 😎
Not surprising to see them spread out at the longer range, may be worth trying them at an indoor range to see if it is the same. I usually shoot these over 10M with diopter sights, but also use them for testing after working on a rifle. Cheap to blast through, to see how the rifle is working. They hardly cycle at all with the magazine on the S400 I had, but that is the only one that I have had that issue with.
When I can get indoors at the proper range, I'll give them a better test in the more controlled environment. It'll be great to compare my outdoor results with the indoor ones. Then we will all see how bad a shot I really am 🤣
I also use those a lot.also cheap here 🇳🇱🇳🇱😉👍
It's amazing that we still get anything cheap in the UK mate, nowadays...
I bet they are all the odds and ends from the high end pellet models just melted down and re-used. At this price🤔 even I can't find a problem with that... I had a great afternoon just plinking
@@tillysgunstocks yep great pellets (excite) for the money have a great sunday and greeting from the lowlands🇳🇱🇳🇱
Great video as always have you tried Umarex Jackal pointed pellets bit of a crazy design to them.
Not yet mate, but I feel a budget pellet mega test coming on 🤔😉
I've been using these as a general shooting/plinking pellet for years with good results.
In being fair, testing a pellet in an airgun only shows the compatibility of that pellet in that barrel with that tune and is IMHO pretty meaningless.
In a fixed tune airgun (like a springer), we search for the "golden pellet" that shoots well in that particular airgun. With an adjustable airgun (PCP), we tune to get the best performance with a specific pellet. A small tweak to your second gun might have shown a big improvement in group size.
My point is that a slight change in tune can result in totally different results. The only way to know if a pellet is accurate is to try it in YOUR gun.
My perspective is that you can't test a pellet for accuracy (that is gun dependent) but you can inspect the pellets for consistency in manufacture - size, weight, deformity, contamination, etc.
About flathead pellets and range... I've found that in my airguns (springers, PCPs and 10 meter match guns) that groups start to open up beyond 15 yards and by 20-25 yards are poor relative to domed pellets - regardless of brand or quality. Just my observations.
Cheers!
I agree entirely mate, and with the match grade ammo I use and test here,the testing regime is much more involved. Having said that ,whilst working within a power limit,it greatly reduces our options to fine tune the rigs.so batch testing becomes far more important.
With a super budget pellet a nice light hearted test through a few guns is enough and a chilled out watch 😉
Tried them in my S510 ultimate pro , ok out to 25 meters, only used 10 gave up , ill keep my qys and stick to the ratters I know
Another great video but I would love to know where you are buying these from at that price. All my local shops are selling these at over £6 a tin! Either they are being greedy or they've watched this video and suddenly decided to up the price (sorry, just being cynical there). Love the video's and your down to earth manner.
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Have a little interweb search mate. I can't share links on here but some careful shopping around will yield some real bargains 😉
@tillysgunstocks
Yes, I did that after I saw what my local gun shops were selling them for and yes I found a couple of on line shops selling them at the price you paid. If I buy a few tins, even with postage on top, it is still actually cheaper than buying from my local shops. It's their loss and puts me right off using them anymore. 👍
First. Thanks for the review!
they make a nicer hole through the target
Just as well use a hole punch and call it mint 🤣
Hi great video where did you buy them at that price??
My hw77 eats these .really good pellet
You want to try the roundhead pellets similar to Superdome
Hi mate,I think I'll add some to my next pellet order .maybe they will be a good option for slightly longer ranges. Be nice if they held a tight group to 25-30yds...
Another brilliant..just hope they don't put the price up now....
Nah we should be good, h&n are sensible with their pricing. The barracuda 8s are a great example of that 😀
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Not had an air rifle for many years but considering getting back in to it, regarding budget pellets a brand called milbro Caledonian stuck with me, just wondering if they were still available?
They are still available but are rubbish compared to what is available now.
£6:99 a tin I get them for. Do you have a link for where you buy them please 👍🏻
Great the secret is out 😁. I definitely don't 😉 like the Spike in 22 for short to mid range " grey rats with feathers" and and "tree rats with fur"😂.
I am new to air rifles and thought domed or diablo was best for target stuff, thought fkat heads was for hunting and plinking. I bought a tin of rws super domes and looked on rws site for info because they was so good and surprised to see rws put the flat heads over domes for all target work! These are wad cutters? Can not work it out
Hi, thanks for the review 🙂. Can I ask where you get your paper targets from?
Hi mate, unfortunately the place I got these from packed up a while ago. I'm looking Into having my own done though,amongst dozens of other projects 🤣
Vector Air have a sale on!!!!
🤣 they're cheaper elsewhere... 😉
My hw100KT hates these pellets. 20 meters dinner plate grouping virtually.
It's amazing how some barrels will and some just won't eh... I doubt we will ever know quite why it happens like this 🤔
in my pistol at very short range they are ok, but in my rifles they group like a shotgun.
Yeah it's bound to happen in some barrels eh, but atleast if they aren't any good you've not lost much. A bad batch of qys really annoys me as they are so expensive. These...so cheap still
dudes trigger work is atrocious
excite is a waste of money
I use a 22 cal. (1.19 gram / 18.4 grain) Meteor pellet - locally made (Philippines). Tin of 100 @ $2.1 USD / 1.7 GBP - delivered.
Numbers are approximate and depend on the tin. Learned to not mix tins due to wide variation. Within a tin usually not too bad. Each new tin requires a little zero twiking when starting . Some have over sized head, that need sizing, others no sizing needed but always seat / dress skirt , using rounded large nail.
Locally made hammer PCP (trigger assembly, receiver, barrel, modulator). I picked up for 280 GBP - rifle, scope, bipod, modulator, range finder, scuba tank takeoff w/ filter. Plenum at 1,900 psi, about 900 fps / 275 mps = 33 ft-lb / 45 NM. At 100 yards 10.2 ft-lb / 14.3 NM.
50 yards sub 25 cm, 75 about 35 cm. Not good enough for local competition but for plinking is OK.
Some typical Philippine PCPs. Hammers are cheaper / easier to build than side cocking. ruclips.net/video/v_dkbyHipBU/видео.html
That sounds fun mate.ill have a look at them 😉 cheers!
@@tillysgunstocks Remember I live on Bohol Island Philippines
They are pretty decent I use them just for a bit of plinking/bit of fun. I acctually messaged you on messenger a while back saying you should try these. Nice vid 😎😎👍👍
Hi mate, they are definitely a fun pellet.i had a great afternoon plinking away with them. It reminded me just how much fun it is 🤯😉
Used these at 10m in CO2 pistol, accurate but same problem in magazine 👍🥸
Hi mate, seems they are very popular in the pistols. It'd be interesting to try them wound down in the rifles.
As a .22 fan when I could still see to hit a target. I used to use
RWS Hobby flatheads as my light pellets and Ely Wasp for anything else. I never thought of pellets as an expensive item until they came out with steelheads.