im not going to lie, i been looking for videos like this and everyone else was to short with there video and non descriptive while you really went in depth with whats better and i really appreciate that
For a 1080/60 inexpensive camera for RUclips content, it’s hard to beat the M50. Even though the Sony has some better/newer features, the fact that the Canon M50 has a usable touch screen, is significantly less costly, and has better colors straight out of the camera, make it a better option for most beginner or budget content creators. I agree though, both are good, and competition makes both companies stronger and benefits us as the consumer.
Sony has the better image quality, product showcase, better AF at all resolutions, more lens support, Catalyst Browse gyro stabilization, USB charging, headphone port, better battery
Sony has no noise. My M50 has brutal noise already at ISO 800, even my Sony RX100 VI has far less noise, about 4x better than the M50. Canon sensors are brutally noisy!!!
Another example of the fact that Tony is human. I guess the takaway here is, always watch your video from start to finish to make sure there are no errors before making it public.
I own and very often use an M50, it's really great and it just works with no fuss. I would have liked to see how the new Z fc does on this test. I find that the video coming out of my Nikon Z50 is superior to that of my Canon M50 and the Z50 face detect autofocus is as good as the Canon in video mode but the missing flip screen kills it for vlogging, the Z fc fixes that problem. The fact that the long in the tooth M50 did so well in this is a testament to how great it was when it was new!
One very important thing you left out is the Canons ability to fully create time-lapse video in camera, no post-editing required. When I switched to Sony full frame, I kept my M50 just for that one function.
Great comparison! Though I feel the Sony having clean HDMI should've been mentioned & awarded a point. If you want to do any amount of streaming via capture card (and the USB webcam functionalities of neither manufacturer are a viable replacement for that), you need a clean HDMI feed. You can kind of fake it on the M50, but you lose autofocus.
I think Tony cheated the Sony with the minimal focus product focus button test. The button helps to not accidentally have your pointing finger or speaking with your hands be focused on. The choice to control that should have went to the Sony.
Sony image quality is much better, sharper- that's a huge factor! Also the sony has a low cost 16mm F2.8 pancake lens with WA attachment for wider if need be.
@@DenisDamulira23 17-70 is good but for vlogging where you may be hand holding to video yourself then its easier with an ultra wide i.e. 16mm or a bit wider on apsc.
And where is the problem? The m-mount has all lenses you need. And in this price-range you can change the system on the fly without too many bucks lost.
@@rudigerbraun9103 So what do you move on to when the tech gets out of date? The M50ii was a joke of an upgrade. Canon seems to be pushing development of their RF line at the expense of their M line, which is a shame. Canon was quite active with their APS-C DSLRs, with one of the widest choices of bodies and lenses, and this led to their domination of the industry at the time. It's nice to see Canon rise in the mirrorless market but I wish they would pay as much attention to the APS-C division as well. And, no, the M mount line up is far from complete. Having the ability to adapt EF lenses to the M mount is not an excuse to stop development in that area.
@@어스맨 @유랑맨 WanderMan Canon FHD videos are too soft for me, it just lacks crispness..and its 4k is useless because of the bad autofocus...FHD on sony ev-10 is just plain bad, but its 4k video is crystal sharp...So i just shoot in 4k and downscale it to 1080p...Downscaling doesn't need that much computing power..So having uncrippled 4k footages is a win for me..
I would lean towards sony ... canon EF-M mount future is uncertain, with sony you have an option to invest in full frame quality glass and upgrade to a full frame body later.
@@AjalaKingsGreenstream glad u agree with me. Also, EF-M's so called "uncertainty" is nothing but rumors being spread for years by rumor sites and RUclipsrs. It's silly to think the 1 selling mirrorless camera (M50) system will be cancelled any time soon.
@@vnecksurferdude7041 I do wish Canon would offer more lenses, but with 3rd party choices, it's good enough. Before I got my 22mm pancake, I used a speedbooster and 17-40 lens as my "webcam" setup.
Oh Tony, I enjoy more watching sony footages more than canon in this comparison. I mostly agreed most of your comparison but this time thumdown for this one. You are trying so hard to get canon points more than sony. You didn't even talk about all the features ZV-E10 have that canon didn't have. Sorry Tony, this review is like canon pay you.
Personally, would be choosing the Sony for zoom and streaming primarily because of the Face/Eye AF and the ability to have it powered on via a USB-C cable and no need for a dummy battery and spending $60+ on it like Canon's case. And a side note, I want to use the Zeiss Touit lenses on it.
@@stephencurah1059 And besides, Sony has no noise. My M50 has brutal noise already at ISO 800, even my Sony RX100 VI has far less noise, about 4x better than the M50. Canon sensors are brutally noisy!!!
As happy as I am about the M50, I have to give the Sony an extra point. Exposure settings are limited to Auto and Manual on the M50. This Canon typical limitation can even be found on the EOS R6. Among the mirrorless Canon models, only the old top model EOS R and the newer EOS R5 have aperture and time priority in video mode.
I'm always surprised at how bad Tony can make a camera look :D But please, please, please at least remember to mention that the M50 doesn't have autofocus while in 4K. This is crucial!
The Z50 flip screen is poorly designed. You can't flip the screen and put it on a tripod unless you use some clumsy adapter, but then the camera becomes poorly balanced. The Nikon Zfc screen is much better.
2:42 Why on earth did you jump from mic connection to product showcase and give a point to Canon and then you actually did this comparison again later on in the video and said that it's a tie! Very confusing! Also the editing of the video is terrible for a big RUclips channel like this
Interesting…. I generally do the opposite (shoot 4K and deliver to clients in HD) unless I am exporting specifically for RUclips’s compression, as you don’t actually gain a lick of perceptual resolution by upsampling from 1080 to 4K. Do you primarily do this for videos going to RUclips? I know their 1080p compression can be notoriously bad. I’m super curious about your reasons for using this method if you don’t mind sharing.
Its kinda difficult to compare the internal mic quality. both m50 & zve-10 in my opinion dont have a good audio. M50 have high low frequency noise & zve-10 clip the high freq more .but if i need to choose i will choose m50 cause its more easier to clean the noise in post. While ZVE-10 the clipped part of the audio is more hard to deal with. Still better to put external audio for sure.
I see what you are saying to an extent. EQ characteristics aside, however, the Sony clearly had a drastically better signal to noise ratio. I think you would have a hard time finding an audio engineer who would prefer proper recorded m50 audio over proper recorded ZV-E10. I mean, you are right that neither is great, but I think it’s a bit disingenuous to pretend one is not meaningfully better than the other. Especially since camera manufacturers so rarely improve their internal mic performance generation over generation. I will say your comment about m50 cleaning being easier is just flat wrong. I pulled the samples and played with them and the Sony has far better clarity and signal/noise. A lot more latitude to work with than the m50.
Things like bit rate and color accuracy are to me the most important factors in a superior camera. All these new cameras produce amazing images. If your in the market for cameras like these you are probably still learning your craft. Things like proper exposure , composition, lighting, and familiarity with the body should be priority. It’s not like one is shooting 12bit video. I think you will be hard pressed to find too much of a difference under most normal circumstances. I’ve used the a7iii along the m50 and the difference is there but it’s insignificant to the consumer. Especially under ideal conditions on a gimbal. Now with the bmpcc4k the difference is very noticeable. The log footage it puts out can be highly enhanced. You can literally pump the contrast ALL the way up and it looks normal.
I think the usability of the Canon is better, but I have concerns about the future of the M mount. At least you can use EF lenses with an adapter, and there are a billion of those out there!
oh my gosh!!!! I was about to fast forward to after the mention of Story blocks but IM SO GLAD TO OF STAYED. CANNOT WAIT to use it!! It's perfect!!!!! Also, good review haha!!
Thank you. Maybe you can help me choose- I watched r50/m50,zve10/6400, z30/50 and personally the only camera that sits great in my hands is Nikon. My goals are shooting indoor videos (interview and architecture) as well as some outdoors events. I will more luckily buy a gimbal for any of those cameras but I want to have as many stabilization as possible (in body/in lens, in software). However, Nikon is a very old brand - people online most of the time work with canon, Sony, Lumix ... I totally understand that it's a beginner choice, but I still want to make the best choice possible
Tony I felt you should of done the comparison against the Canon M50 II (latest version) that includes improved auto focus and clean HDMI. Great video nonetheless!
For the side by side shots what lens did you have on the Sony?? And when you were walking with it what stabilization did you have on?? Thanks :) nice video!
I think there was some bias within this video. You gave a point to Canon for having a cheaper wide-angle lens. But you were comparing apples with oranges. Of course, the Sony wide-angle lens is more expensive because it's a fixed aperture. You could have just as well chosen to give the point to Sony for having the brighter wide-angle lens. Furthermore, the wide angle lens on the Canon is negated by the heavy crop in 4K. So, you gave a point to Canon for a "wide-angle" lens that isn't even wide-angle in 4K. That's ridiculous. Lastly, the heavy crop, and reduced video quality, is a HUGE difference, likely worth more than just one point, which you arbitrarily chose.
For me the M50 is still superior over the Sony, and I am not a fan of 4k. What is the point of shooting in 4k if most people watch RUclips on phones. I'll stay with 1080 @ 60 fps.
To be clear, I personally agree with Tony in his conclusion within the frame of the test. If you are in this price bracket cost is almost certainly crucial. Price and the flippy screen touch menu on their own would make this a winner. The auto focus on both is good enough and even if the Sony did win on that front the other bits are more important. He had both cameras and used them, I do not. I am not screaming bias, just observing a small loss of focus with that particular setup. You can always touch the screen and re acquire with the Canon. BTW... for context .. I have Sony A7s gear and glass but that's down to needing ultra low light 1080 video. Horses for courses.
Modern cameras don’t have wireless headphones I think bc there is still a slight delay over Bluetooth so that video and sound might not sync up exactly (?)
This video means that after three and half years this was the best Sony could do at this price range. Canon however never felt the m50 users deserved a worthy upgrade either.
Sony A6400 has lot more control than these both. But still I'm not satisfied with his answer. Please watch Json Wong's review. He has mentioned a lot about this new Sony camera. It has also one click background blur option for the ppl who doesn't want to spend more money on lenses.
The one click background blur option just sets the aperture wide open (which it is usually set at anyway). It doesn't add bokeh to lenses that don't already have it.
@@TonyAndChelsea okay 👍🏽. Gotcha. Please Don't mind, I watch lot of your videos and this also was a very good comparison. But I felt at some places the Sony camera was not utilised well. Like slight tilt to the screen could have resolved the viewing issue and talking about autofocus I guess Sony are best in its class. I've same sigma lens that you used in this video with a6400. It's quick and smooth not like the Sigma 30mm.
@@thevijayraj34 the auto focus comparison did not make sense at all.. The f4 lens to be more expensive hence point to canon is even more ridiculous.. Keep your head straight.. And your confidence full.
Canon's mic sounds way better. and your lav mic doesn t sound the part, you should have amped it up in post. i understand the general circle jerk about having bass applied to your voice, the supposed professionalism of a radio-esque amped voice, but this just ain't cutting it for me. i m a musician and producer and i understand the value of a microphone. all 3 tracks are (in this enclosed environment) potential candidates for a good sound in heavy post production. which is a ton easier than video post production. cause you apply only one "lut" to your audio, albeit very detailed and tailored.
Sony has been making cameras for photographers since 1998, while Canon began its journey from its founding in 1937, in 1955, it became famous and became digital around 1969. It's funny that you compare this... I think it's shameful for Canon that this Sony company scares it off in the market from time to time and that it listens to its consumers about their bratty things that Canon never does, And if... they pleases it's clients it is a pure miracle because they feel great... Thank you very much Tony for your always explicit videos.
You had mentioned that the m50ii although out already at the time of this video, you did not have a sample for it. Which is fine as most features are the same for this review. However, one of the new features of the M50ii are... clean HDMI out, and although it does only have 24P at 4K, another choice still available while there are still units out there is the M6ii which has "full screen non-cropped 4K" at 30P and 24P and 120P and 60P in 1080HD. M6ii is now discontinued making way for R10. M50ii will continue to sell as it likely be less expensive than the R10 rumored around $1K for body replacing 90D and M6ii. This is a great review. Very helpful to consider when choosing. Both have good features. After watching your video, I may pickup the M6ii as it has full screen 4K at 30P while some are still around. Why? I have big FF cameras already for work. I want a small cam with small lenses like the M for walkaround.
I think Sony may be trying to offer the current EOS M users a new home with this one on the event that Canon ditches the EF-M system for RF bodies with APS-C sensors. Also, Tony I think you are having some audio issues again.
I don't like the add up the things approach. Quantifying every item the same ignores that most users prioritize one thing over the other (e.g. 4K quality being weighed the same as outdoor viewscreen brightness)? Also very surprised at no mention of the Sony's awful rolling shutter.
You don't mention sony display sunny mode or sony can focus on product without forcing you masking your eyes. in canon if camera see your eyes not focus on product. also sony has clean hdmi output and can use as webcam without installing any software with your usb c cable . sony not cut recording 4k video every 30 min like canon. with a usb c adapter or power bank you can record unlimited
🔴 *I BOUGHT ZV1 IT LAST YEAR AS SOON AS IT HIT THE MARKET - VERY BAD STABILIZATION, WEAK BATTERY, THERE IS NO TOUCHSCREEN, BECAUSE IT BLURS THE BACKGROUND, ZV1 IS NOT FOR TRAVEL VLOG. WHAT IS THE SITUATION WITH ZV E10? GOPRO 9 IS BEST FOR MY TRAVEL VLOG* 👍 💪
In my opinion this wasn’t a good comparison. If anything you should’ve compared the Canon M6 MK II vs the ZV-E10 to be more reasonable. The canon I’m referring to has no crop in 4K 24 and 30 FPS and comparable lenses
The M50's microphone input port is crippled in a way that does not allow shooters to record audio to separate Left-Right channels. Full pan left or right is not possible even with an external audio mixer. ZV-e10's professional audio options are far more flexible with it's digital MI shoe.
No visible audio levels on the main preview screen with the Canon is a very good point. With the Sony I'm going to assume it doesn't have the 30 minute per video clip cap like their other models. I have a pair of m50 bodies, but the Sony is pretty tempting as an indoor studio camera with that feature for what I do. I wouldn't use either of them for 4k vlogging due to the terrible rolling shutter. Overall the camera is definitely a nice option but I wish Sony would get a better sensor into their APS-C lineup. Canon has a better sensor but they only have it in the M6 Mark II.
Sony has no noise. My M50 has brutal noise already at ISO 800, even my Sony RX100 VI has far less noise, about 4x better than the M50. Canon sensors are brutally noisy!!!
The image quality (crispness) is what matters the most to me.. I made a big mistake buying the canon m50 mII, it's 1080p video is too soft, more like 720p to me...So i will not buy anyhing from canon unless i can afford an R5 or something..To me canon offers the worst video quality at in and around 1000$..
Product presentation condition was not good Tony you are not supposed to cover your face with the product Nor bring the product closer to cover about 70% of the screen Try with a smaller product and at a normal distance
You've got to have Canon fever to spend money on an ill-conceived stop-gap camera system with a lens mount inconsistent with any others in their line-up past, present or future. On the other hand, lots of amazing lens options for the e-mount.
Tony what about the comparison between this new one from Sony and Nikon Z fc?!! i think it will be very helpful for vloggers... thanks for listening me
Canon should lose a point for losing dual pixel autofocus in 4k, just saying. Sony's autofocus is almost perfect in 4k and 1080p Edit: sony also had less noise in the walk around test.
10:42 stop interrupting Tony,Tony.
im not going to lie, i been looking for videos like this and everyone else was to short with there video and non descriptive while you really went in depth with whats better and i really appreciate that
I’m shocked you didn’t mention that the Canon M50 loses its dual pixel auto focus when shooting in 4k.
Seems like quite a few “points” may have been missed on this one. I’m guessing it was a bit of a rush to get this out.
I’m shocked as well. Automatic thumbs down to the video. Just this fact renders the M50 useless for 4K.
@@JS_-lp7gn contrast autofocus is still useable, and anyone recording 4k definitely needs to be spending more time manual focusing.
@@truthseeker6804 that's nonsense, who's telling you have to manual focus if you want to shoot anything in 4K ?
For a 1080/60 inexpensive camera for RUclips content, it’s hard to beat the M50. Even though the Sony has some better/newer features, the fact that the Canon M50 has a usable touch screen, is significantly less costly, and has better colors straight out of the camera, make it a better option for most beginner or budget content creators.
I agree though, both are good, and competition makes both companies stronger and benefits us as the consumer.
Tony interrupting Tony @10:45, a small time you tuber mistake 😂😂 great comparison Tones.
Sony has the better image quality, product showcase, better AF at all resolutions, more lens support, Catalyst Browse gyro stabilization, USB charging, headphone port, better battery
Sony has no noise. My M50 has brutal noise already at ISO 800, even my Sony RX100 VI has far less noise, about 4x better than the M50. Canon sensors are brutally noisy!!!
Some overlapping audio issues around 10:30 tony. Great comparison anyway!
Another example of the fact that Tony is human. I guess the takaway here is, always watch your video from start to finish to make sure there are no errors before making it public.
@@PhilThach a mistake a make too often…. Don’t spend the time to check full videos before sharing lol.
I own and very often use an M50, it's really great and it just works with no fuss. I would have liked to see how the new Z fc does on this test. I find that the video coming out of my Nikon Z50 is superior to that of my Canon M50 and the Z50 face detect autofocus is as good as the Canon in video mode but the missing flip screen kills it for vlogging, the Z fc fixes that problem. The fact that the long in the tooth M50 did so well in this is a testament to how great it was when it was new!
The Sony quality is better I think the lack of crop is worth 3 points. The crop basically means that the canon is not a wide angle camera
Really pushing the Canon points there Toby. Was that focus test done in 4K
One very important thing you left out is the Canons ability to fully create time-lapse video in camera, no post-editing required. When I switched to Sony full frame, I kept my M50 just for that one function.
you can do this with an I phone
its a pro to some but as a timelapse enthusiast i really dont want that feature.
Seems as of lately, Canon delivers a better user experience and Sony delivers better tech.
Great comparison! Though I feel the Sony having clean HDMI should've been mentioned & awarded a point. If you want to do any amount of streaming via capture card (and the USB webcam functionalities of neither manufacturer are a viable replacement for that), you need a clean HDMI feed. You can kind of fake it on the M50, but you lose autofocus.
M50 mark2 has clean HDMI
I think Tony cheated the Sony with the minimal focus product focus button test. The button helps to not accidentally have your pointing finger or speaking with your hands be focused on. The choice to control that should have went to the Sony.
Sony image quality is much better, sharper- that's a huge factor! Also the sony has a low cost 16mm F2.8 pancake lens with WA attachment for wider if need be.
I have the Canon 22mm f/2 and that is the ultimate portable setup for me
It's low cost indeed, but the image quality is garbage.
Don't forget Samyang 12 f/2
You are absolutely right, i don't understand why people never notice bad M50's image quality
@@ronixdash123 must be my poor eyesight. Or maybe i don't realize how bad a photographer I am?
This Sony and the Tamron 11-20 f2.8 would be ideal.
Yeah, and the lens only weighs 335g, that is good.
Don't forget Samyang 12 f/2
why not the very sharp Tamron 17 - 70 mm 2.8 for the same money. One lens to rule them all with Optical stabilization
@@DenisDamulira23 17-70 is good but for vlogging where you may be hand holding to video yourself then its easier with an ultra wide i.e. 16mm or a bit wider on apsc.
I recently got my M50, and this video made me believe I made a good choice ❤️
I'm a hybrid shooter so the canon is hands down the winner for me because of its viewfinder and full support for ef and ef-s glass with a $40 adapter
Which camera is the best investment in 3 years time. Every youtuber seems to think m mount will come to end of life.....
And where is the problem? The m-mount has all lenses you need. And in this price-range you can change the system on the fly without too many bucks lost.
@@rudigerbraun9103 So what do you move on to when the tech gets out of date? The M50ii was a joke of an upgrade. Canon seems to be pushing development of their RF line at the expense of their M line, which is a shame. Canon was quite active with their APS-C DSLRs, with one of the widest choices of bodies and lenses, and this led to their domination of the industry at the time. It's nice to see Canon rise in the mirrorless market but I wish they would pay as much attention to the APS-C division as well.
And, no, the M mount line up is far from complete. Having the ability to adapt EF lenses to the M mount is not an excuse to stop development in that area.
why do I have the feeling that you are a bit biased at Canon's advantage? Sony clearly wins this battle for me
the new Canon M50ii has audio/recording levels during recording.
Would it not be a better choice to have the M50 MKII. Even though it is not a significant upgrade than the M50 MKI. It does improve on a lot of items.
I have it and it sucks, it's 1080p video looks like 720p...
@@Bobberhead007 Yes, coz image quality is not that good and not sharp enough
@@Bobberhead007 really? I thought fhd canon is better than sony should i go to zv-e10 even if i use bundle basic lens with taking Fhd??
@@어스맨 @유랑맨 WanderMan Canon FHD videos are too soft for me, it just lacks crispness..and its 4k is useless because of the bad autofocus...FHD on sony ev-10 is just plain bad, but its 4k video is crystal sharp...So i just shoot in 4k and downscale it to 1080p...Downscaling doesn't need that much computing power..So having uncrippled 4k footages is a win for me..
@@Bobberhead007 oh so sony 4k and downsiging to fhd.. and upload on youtube hmmm how about the record is it good? Much better than canon right?
I would lean towards sony ... canon EF-M mount future is uncertain, with sony you have an option to invest in full frame quality glass and upgrade to a full frame body later.
you can use FF glass on the M cameras too
Agreed
@@AjalaKingsGreenstream glad u agree with me. Also, EF-M's so called "uncertainty" is nothing but rumors being spread for years by rumor sites and RUclipsrs. It's silly to think the 1 selling mirrorless camera (M50) system will be cancelled any time soon.
@@vnecksurferdude7041 I do wish Canon would offer more lenses, but with 3rd party choices, it's good enough. Before I got my 22mm pancake, I used a speedbooster and 17-40 lens as my "webcam" setup.
Oh Tony, I enjoy more watching sony footages more than canon in this comparison. I mostly agreed most of your comparison but this time thumdown for this one. You are trying so hard to get canon points more than sony. You didn't even talk about all the features ZV-E10 have that canon didn't have. Sorry Tony, this review is like canon pay you.
Audio audio audio :(
The 4K cropping on Canon should be -10 points.
Personally, would be choosing the Sony for zoom and streaming primarily because of the Face/Eye AF and the ability to have it powered on via a USB-C cable and no need for a dummy battery and spending $60+ on it like Canon's case.
And a side note, I want to use the Zeiss Touit lenses on it.
Plus Sony does unlimited recording unlike Canon with the 30min limit
@@stephencurah1059 And besides, Sony has no noise. My M50 has brutal noise already at ISO 800, even my Sony RX100 VI has far less noise, about 4x better than the M50. Canon sensors are brutally noisy!!!
Great videos you have missed edits where your audio came in from the next clip. Before the 11:19 mark. I always enjoy your content
As happy as I am about the M50, I have to give the Sony an extra point. Exposure settings are limited to Auto and Manual on the M50. This Canon typical limitation can even be found on the EOS R6. Among the mirrorless Canon models, only the old top model EOS R and the newer EOS R5 have aperture and time priority in video mode.
I'm always surprised at how bad Tony can make a camera look :D But please, please, please at least remember to mention that the M50 doesn't have autofocus while in 4K. This is crucial!
Its old comment but for future reference and potential buyers. It does have autofocus in 4k, contrast based. Dual pixel AF works only in 1080
recording limit? sony + 1
Canon had terrible 1080p , so soft until the 90D/M6 MKii and R5/R6 in which they improve the quality significantly.
*M6 MKii
1080 on my sl2 is fine. Sharp enough to see pores on your skin with the right lens... what more do you need? Even my 5d mark 2 has good 1080.
Since I'm already loaded with E-mount lenses I think it will be most sensible for me to go for the Sony ;) hehe
Yeah you need a camera body to make the lenses work. Good luck!
Grandpa’s headphones? You’ll have to update this video once you get the M50 Mark II. And the Z50 was missing too.
M50 mkII is really no different in video specs or overall performance. Z50 is much much outside the price range
@@ericlippe The Z50 only $859, about the same as the Sony.
The Z50 flip screen is poorly designed. You can't flip the screen and put it on a tripod unless you use some clumsy adapter, but then the camera becomes poorly balanced. The Nikon Zfc screen is much better.
2:42 Why on earth did you jump from mic connection to product showcase and give a point to Canon and then you actually did this comparison again later on in the video and said that it's a tie! Very confusing! Also the editing of the video is terrible for a big RUclips channel like this
I got a felling from Tony pushing some points to canon. I like this guy but lately he doesn't seem as clear as he used to be.
Just film in 1080P and export as 4K. That’s what I do, 👍🏻
Interesting…. I generally do the opposite (shoot 4K and deliver to clients in HD) unless I am exporting specifically for RUclips’s compression, as you don’t actually gain a lick of perceptual resolution by upsampling from 1080 to 4K.
Do you primarily do this for videos going to RUclips? I know their 1080p compression can be notoriously bad. I’m super curious about your reasons for using this method if you don’t mind sharing.
Why export to a bigger format? It does nothing 🤔 except taking more space.
@@krimke881 upscaled video quality is never as good as real 4k you just trick your customers
Ok ok ok. I'm finally subscribing. I've seen a lot of your videos, and while I'm not always swayed by or inspired by the videos, i appreciate them.
Its kinda difficult to compare the internal mic quality. both m50 & zve-10 in my opinion dont have a good audio. M50 have high low frequency noise & zve-10 clip the high freq more .but if i need to choose i will choose m50 cause its more easier to clean the noise in post. While ZVE-10 the clipped part of the audio is more hard to deal with.
Still better to put external audio for sure.
I see what you are saying to an extent. EQ characteristics aside, however, the Sony clearly had a drastically better signal to noise ratio. I think you would have a hard time finding an audio engineer who would prefer proper recorded m50 audio over proper recorded ZV-E10. I mean, you are right that neither is great, but I think it’s a bit disingenuous to pretend one is not meaningfully better than the other. Especially since camera manufacturers so rarely improve their internal mic performance generation over generation.
I will say your comment about m50 cleaning being easier is just flat wrong. I pulled the samples and played with them and the Sony has far better clarity and signal/noise. A lot more latitude to work with than the m50.
Great comparison. Thank you!
Things like bit rate and color accuracy are to me the most important factors in a superior camera. All these new cameras produce amazing images. If your in the market for cameras like these you are probably still learning your craft. Things like proper exposure , composition, lighting, and familiarity with the body should be priority. It’s not like one is shooting 12bit video. I think you will be hard pressed to find too much of a difference under most normal circumstances. I’ve used the a7iii along the m50 and the difference is there but it’s insignificant to the consumer. Especially under ideal conditions on a gimbal. Now with the bmpcc4k the difference is very noticeable. The log footage it puts out can be highly enhanced. You can literally pump the contrast ALL the way up and it looks normal.
I think the usability of the Canon is better, but I have concerns about the future of the M mount. At least you can use EF lenses with an adapter, and there are a billion of those out there!
And there's an EF speedbooster from Viltrox which is good value for money
oh my gosh!!!! I was about to fast forward to after the mention of Story blocks but IM SO GLAD TO OF STAYED. CANNOT WAIT to use it!! It's perfect!!!!! Also, good review haha!!
Thank you. Maybe you can help me choose- I watched r50/m50,zve10/6400, z30/50 and personally the only camera that sits great in my hands is Nikon. My goals are shooting indoor videos (interview and architecture) as well as some outdoors events. I will more luckily buy a gimbal for any of those cameras but I want to have as many stabilization as possible (in body/in lens, in software).
However, Nikon is a very old brand - people online most of the time work with canon, Sony, Lumix ... I totally understand that it's a beginner choice, but I still want to make the best choice possible
Top of the pop's when it comes to camera reviews. Loved it.🏆😊
Tony I felt you should of done the comparison against the Canon M50 II (latest version) that includes improved auto focus and clean HDMI. Great video nonetheless!
For the side by side shots what lens did you have on the Sony?? And when you were walking with it what stabilization did you have on?? Thanks :) nice video!
I think the sony is far superior to the Canon.
I think there was some bias within this video. You gave a point to Canon for having a cheaper wide-angle lens. But you were comparing apples with oranges. Of course, the Sony wide-angle lens is more expensive because it's a fixed aperture. You could have just as well chosen to give the point to Sony for having the brighter wide-angle lens. Furthermore, the wide angle lens on the Canon is negated by the heavy crop in 4K. So, you gave a point to Canon for a "wide-angle" lens that isn't even wide-angle in 4K. That's ridiculous. Lastly, the heavy crop, and reduced video quality, is a HUGE difference, likely worth more than just one point, which you arbitrarily chose.
For me the M50 is still superior over the Sony, and I am not a fan of 4k. What is the point of shooting in 4k if most people watch RUclips on phones. I'll stay with 1080 @ 60 fps.
I think the better option it would’ve been M6 mark 2 vs The new camera.
Definitely would have been a much better comparison vs this new camera. The ZV-1 even kills the M-50
@@DCC2105 or even the RP
@@coalandsteelrailroadvideos1342 exactly. But not the M50
Hey Tony ! What is the Sony super wide angle lense you used ? 🤔 you mentioned Canon one is 11-22 but you didn’t mention the Sony one. Thx ☺️
Can you do a comparison between Fujifilm X-T3 and Sony ZV E-10?
Why is everybody only focusing on 4k is beyond me.
Would Canon M50 mark ii be a clean winner over Sony ZV-E10?
Was it my imagination or did the Canon keep losing focus once the wide angle Canon lens was added?
yep!!!!!
Also the part where the f4 Sony lens was expensive so point to canon was just weird😂😂... It was the ahaaa! moment..
This comparison was clearly biased
To be clear, I personally agree with Tony in his conclusion within the frame of the test. If you are in this price bracket cost is almost certainly crucial. Price and the flippy screen touch menu on their own would make this a winner. The auto focus on both is good enough and even if the Sony did win on that front the other bits are more important. He had both cameras and used them, I do not. I am not screaming bias, just observing a small loss of focus with that particular setup. You can always touch the screen and re acquire with the Canon. BTW... for context .. I have Sony A7s gear and glass but that's down to needing ultra low light 1080 video. Horses for courses.
Modern cameras don’t have wireless headphones I think bc there is still a slight delay over Bluetooth so that video and sound might not sync up exactly (?)
This video means that after three and half years this was the best Sony could do at this price range. Canon however never felt the m50 users deserved a worthy upgrade either.
Why M50, can't you compare it with the newer version of M50, that is M50 Mark ii. You are comparing a present camera with 3 years old camera.
Sony A6400 has lot more control than these both. But still I'm not satisfied with his answer. Please watch Json Wong's review. He has mentioned a lot about this new Sony camera. It has also one click background blur option for the ppl who doesn't want to spend more money on lenses.
The one click background blur option just sets the aperture wide open (which it is usually set at anyway). It doesn't add bokeh to lenses that don't already have it.
1 click background blur? Sounds pretty gimmicky to be honest. How hard is it to just open up the lens?
@@TonyAndChelsea okay 👍🏽. Gotcha.
Please Don't mind, I watch lot of your videos and this also was a very good comparison. But I felt at some places the Sony camera was not utilised well. Like slight tilt to the screen could have resolved the viewing issue and talking about autofocus I guess Sony are best in its class. I've same sigma lens that you used in this video with a6400. It's quick and smooth not like the Sigma 30mm.
@@thevijayraj34 the auto focus comparison did not make sense at all.. The f4 lens to be more expensive hence point to canon is even more ridiculous.. Keep your head straight.. And your confidence full.
I like the touch screen on the canon. The microphone, and 4K on Sony. Trying to decide on my first camera.
Dude, Your depth of field is crazy good. You look like the weather guy on the news. (This was supposed to be complimentary.)
Canon's mic sounds way better. and your lav mic doesn t sound the part, you should have amped it up in post.
i understand the general circle jerk about having bass applied to your voice, the supposed professionalism of a radio-esque amped voice, but this just ain't cutting it for me.
i m a musician and producer and i understand the value of a microphone. all 3 tracks are (in this enclosed environment) potential candidates for a good sound in heavy post production.
which is a ton easier than video post production. cause you apply only one "lut" to your audio, albeit very detailed and tailored.
Where is storyblocks now ? They stopped accepting footages from all the authors and shut down their system
To me, the scales would tip to the Canon M50 or M50 II, if they have weather sealing... do they?
battery life? sony +1
Wait, no "Does X destroy Y?" headliner this time? :) Finally a good title again :)?
Sony has been making cameras for photographers since 1998, while Canon began its journey from its founding in 1937, in 1955, it became famous and became digital around 1969.
It's funny that you compare this... I think it's shameful for Canon that this Sony company scares it off in the market from time to time and that it listens to its consumers about their bratty things that Canon never does, And if... they pleases it's clients it is a pure miracle because they feel great...
Thank you very much Tony for your always explicit videos.
I hear the ghost of grandpa northrup. He says " the canon here!"
It is a sign, sacrifice the calf, the spirits have spoken
You had mentioned that the m50ii although out already at the time of this video, you did not have a sample for it. Which is fine as most features are the same for this review. However, one of the new features of the M50ii are... clean HDMI out, and although it does only have 24P at 4K, another choice still available while there are still units out there is the M6ii which has "full screen non-cropped 4K" at 30P and 24P and 120P and 60P in 1080HD. M6ii is now discontinued making way for R10. M50ii will continue to sell as it likely be less expensive than the R10 rumored around $1K for body replacing 90D and M6ii. This is a great review. Very helpful to consider when choosing. Both have good features. After watching your video, I may pickup the M6ii as it has full screen 4K at 30P while some are still around. Why? I have big FF cameras already for work. I want a small cam with small lenses like the M for walkaround.
Great Info........... thanks a lot
I think Sony may be trying to offer the current EOS M users a new home with this one on the event that Canon ditches the EF-M system for RF bodies with APS-C sensors.
Also, Tony I think you are having some audio issues again.
No mention of Sony's wireless streaming integration with Zoom - big plus!
Nice video! It helped me a lot!
Crappy stabilization as always from Sony too bad another deal breaker.
good to see you here, i enjoyed your zv1 videos, although i didnt buy it.
@@truthseeker6804 thx for watching my videos.
Which is the best camera to start shooting videos in my room for RUclips? Canon M50 markii or Sony Zv-E10 ?
The Canon skin tone is so red
I don't like the add up the things approach. Quantifying every item the same ignores that most users prioritize one thing over the other (e.g. 4K quality being weighed the same as outdoor viewscreen brightness)?
Also very surprised at no mention of the Sony's awful rolling shutter.
You don't mention sony display sunny mode or sony can focus on product without forcing you masking your eyes. in canon if camera see your eyes not focus on product. also sony has clean hdmi output and can use as webcam without installing any software with your usb c cable . sony not cut recording 4k video every 30 min like canon. with a usb c adapter or power bank you can record unlimited
🔴 *I BOUGHT ZV1 IT LAST YEAR AS SOON AS IT HIT THE MARKET - VERY BAD STABILIZATION, WEAK BATTERY, THERE IS NO TOUCHSCREEN, BECAUSE IT BLURS THE BACKGROUND, ZV1 IS NOT FOR TRAVEL VLOG. WHAT IS THE SITUATION WITH ZV E10? GOPRO 9 IS BEST FOR MY TRAVEL VLOG* 👍 💪
Shouting isn’t going to help you.
Canon losses dual pixel af at 4k, you sucker intentionally skip it to mention, but your video was pulsing
Still better than worst rolling shutter
@@kawartie M50s rolling shutter even worse
On the wide angle test, your skin tone looked more natural with the Canon.
Sony ZV E10 vs Canon m50 mark ii . Which is better for church online worship. Plz suggest me
How much Canon paid for this video ?
One of the first photography channel i followed, don't know why it's been getting worse lately.
they stated facts.
Playing this video in 2x speed felt like normal speed.
In my opinion this wasn’t a good comparison. If anything you should’ve compared the Canon M6 MK II vs the ZV-E10 to be more reasonable. The canon I’m referring to has no crop in 4K 24 and 30 FPS and comparable lenses
Why wouldn't you compare the canon m50 mkii? Well at least with mkii you can see the mic levels now. The big plus is mkii has clean hdmi.
The M50's microphone input port is crippled in a way that does not allow shooters to record audio to separate Left-Right channels. Full pan left or right is not possible even with an external audio mixer. ZV-e10's professional audio options are far more flexible with it's digital MI shoe.
For me it is kinda simple> canon if you want photos, sony for videos. *drops the damn mic*
No visible audio levels on the main preview screen with the Canon is a very good point. With the Sony I'm going to assume it doesn't have the 30 minute per video clip cap like their other models. I have a pair of m50 bodies, but the Sony is pretty tempting as an indoor studio camera with that feature for what I do. I wouldn't use either of them for 4k vlogging due to the terrible rolling shutter. Overall the camera is definitely a nice option but I wish Sony would get a better sensor into their APS-C lineup. Canon has a better sensor but they only have it in the M6 Mark II.
Sony has no noise. My M50 has brutal noise already at ISO 800, even my Sony RX100 VI has far less noise, about 4x better than the M50. Canon sensors are brutally noisy!!!
can we get another walk-through of that house. it's gorgeous
Yeah
Which should I get please let me know the M50 Mark 2 or the Sony VZ-E10????
What about slow-mo? Sony should have got 2 points for that. Just press button on the top of the camera and you get slow-mo.
The image quality (crispness) is what matters the most to me.. I made a big mistake buying the canon m50 mII, it's 1080p video is too soft, more like 720p to me...So i will not buy anyhing from canon unless i can afford an R5 or something..To me canon offers the worst video quality at in and around 1000$..
Product presentation condition was not good
Tony you are not supposed to cover your face with the product
Nor bring the product closer to cover about 70% of the screen
Try with a smaller product and at a normal distance
isnt that sony has product showcase mode? i think you missed that?
You've got to have Canon fever to spend money on an ill-conceived stop-gap camera system with a lens mount inconsistent with any others in their line-up past, present or future. On the other hand, lots of amazing lens options for the e-mount.
Thanks for the video. Is there a record limit on the Sony?
No there isn't, but the Canon is limited to 30 minutes.
Tony what about the comparison between this new one from Sony and Nikon Z fc?!! i think it will be very helpful for vloggers... thanks for listening me
Canon should lose a point for losing dual pixel autofocus in 4k, just saying. Sony's autofocus is almost perfect in 4k and 1080p
Edit: sony also had less noise in the walk around test.