Okay you convinced me! I bought it with your discount code thank you. I'm a creative portrait and cosplay photographer so this will be my new secret weapon.
@@borisfxlearn Yep and we can all see why! I have a question - the sparks, fog, particles, and other texture type overlays are they procedurally generated or coming from source images / video files?
@@DanielGrovePhoto Everything is Optics is procedural which is why it is so unique. If you want to edit and change the particle emitters, we have a how training series on this: ruclips.net/p/PLhBcSXnaOWWEbpMV4efTPcX8hb8kmk_sa
Whatever ends up on the canvas ist the art. Art consumers mostly don't care about the steps needed to get there. If it's easier to do something digital, do it. The line will only get blurrier with Time.
This is great. I think that post work is still part of the process and is an extension of the artist’s vision. I started photography back in 2000 when my favorite teacher in high school put a camera in my hand, and mentored me. All the way up to 2020 I never used photoshop because I was always taught to get it right in camera. I decided to play around with PS and immediately loved the ability to expand my creativity with post. I spent 20 years without using programs like these but I find it very refreshing nowadays to have the ability to create beyond what traditional methods will allow. Great video and I have always admired your work🔥🔥🔥
Few Photographers have inspired me and have pushed me to try new things. I already enjoy your down to earth personality, sense of humor and the fact that you shoot with Canon, like come on.... (no shots at Sony users or any other ones) but I appreciate these videos because they give me another thing to try with my photography. And truth be told, if I didn't see this review and your take, I don't think I would be comfortable with just getting it. Appreciate the vid and keep killing it, the Northeast misses you!!!
This looks like a good program! Re your ? about whether editing is "killing photography," one thing I always like to do before editing (if needed) is to evaluate my pics first. That way I can continue to grow, relegating editing to want-to instead of have-to!
My $0.02 as follows ===> I think you give the customer what they want. If they want their wedding (or other event) to look like a CGI scene from Marvel comics complete with 'Spider Bride' then give them that. This software you demoed then becomes another skill in the photographer's black doctor bag. If, on the other hand, they want pictures which truly capture the moment, then give them those images accordingly which they will have for the rest of their lives to look back on. I also don't see an issue with using this software in post to simplify the generation of images which alternatively would require special strobe/lighting effects (such as simulating the golden hour on a cloudy day). I especially think this software would be very popular in product photography where the marketing hucksters run wild.
Gosh wow! That takes me back, "Boris Fx." I remember using that when I had photoshop 5 in the late 1990's. I wonder if "Alien skin" and "Kai's effects" are still going?
Very interesting. I like some of the new approaches. Not sure I'll subscribe, but will think on it. Really appreciated your review and showing us what it can do.
Two words… “digital art” nothing wrong with doing that with our photography. It adds another level of artistry to our work. I know “purists” will disagree with these concepts and argue that “this isn’t photography”. I can agree on that point and I have a heart for “getting it right” in camera especially coming from the days of film and darkrooms. But even back then masters in photography used numerous darkroom “tricks” to achieve their final results as they perceived them in their mind and not necessarily what the eye actually saw at the time the photo was taken. There is much to be said about both sides of this equation and I can agree that there is a time and place for both. Oh and BTW I enjoy your videos and professional work!
I totally agree with you. There is a difference between photography and , I call it, photographic art. If I am hired to do a portrait of someone. Photography. If I am out making image for myself and there is something in the image I don't like and I move it or delete it....photo art. This just give the photographer the assets to let their imaginations run wild
I'm torn. Part of me things of the cool things that could be done. But then I think about clients that would only want those types of images, and how much it could add to my workflow. But it still looks intriguing. The other part of me is wanting to keep photography more realistic (I know, we manipulate late, use props, etc. to change a scene, this is a step or four above that :) ), and keep things as they are.
It’s my opinion, there are two different art forms with respect to photography, especially digital photography. There is the art form of photography itself and then there is “Post Production”. Personally, I don’t like a lot of post production work or changes to images, because I feel like it changes the reality of the image. I do appreciate the art of post production and I think it’s cool and neat what can be done, but I feel like it’s overdone way too often. IMO
The unfun thing about BorisFx is that you have to open it in Photoshop. Couldn't tell when last I used that program. Would have loved a Lightroom plugin
Love your way of presenting this. Strong words work as both sides of this fence no doubt have strong feelings about this subject matter. Personally I like the more honest and true version of photography ..... but how true and honest is that really with lens, format , perspective choices playing a huge part in the final photograph. I do draw the line at adding light in post..naa do that shit in camera where you can. As for skin work.. I favour doing a little as possible. No one has uniform skin texture.. no one. but sadly it seems too of become the norm in retouching and in the MSM. I often wonder what affect it will have psychologically on younger generations. Nobody is perfect.. yet everyone is perfect as they are because they are a work in progress.
“Fixing” means making it match what I saw in my vision. If you’ve ever used a gel to fake golden hour, for example, you’ve done the same thing with a different tool. Ever used a non-functioning prop? One could argue makeup is just ‘out of camera’ photoshop. Any effect applied with a brush is effectively a composite. Somewhere there was a painter complaining about how photographs took the art out of painting, and now they laugh as they are back in the game. Do you like the picture at the end? Does your client? If so, you did a good job. If I absolutely hate your image, and I am not your client, what does it matter to you?
@@v3rlon I agree with this. In analog days, photographers used manual dodge and burn techniques when printing and chemical development processes to achieve their vision. Software is just another tool that can be used creatively, tastefully, or over the top. One thing I like about the Optics plugin is it is not using AI... many of the effects in the Optics and gels section recreate historical stocks, physical lenses, gels, and gobo patterns. I think the argument is a bit dated for 2022.
I find it can distraction when all you see is the photoshop though this is personal preference. I use my M42 film lens on my T7 and do basic edits to enhance or sharpen the photo.
I still can’t get Boris FX Optics to work on my 16” MBP M3 Max. I’ve been using BFX software in AE for years and the stuff it can do for video work is simply magic. (Except Optics, for whatever reason meh)
This looks pretty 🔥. May have to take advantage. Especially if the skin smoothing looks and works better than neural filters in photoshop. What’s your thoughts on that part?
I haven’t used the photoshop filters, I’ve just don’t frequency separation if I was going to really retouch. This is definitely easier than that option
@@VanessaJoy that’s what I was thinking your say regarding frequency separation and this. Love how you explained everything. Looking forward to using this for some creative work
@@paigecfrancis the Beauty Studio effect in Optics has built-in frequency separation which makes touch-ups a lot simpler. This video shows Beauty Studio filter in Premiere but the workflow is similar in Optics (without the need to do animated masking of course): ruclips.net/video/h8LZMrqCI90/видео.html
I too, philosophically, like the "get it in the camera" school. But as soon as I realized that once I shot something on black & white film then diffused it with a chunk nylon stocking (which is a whole other philosophical discussion) I was altering the source reality. This is simply that darkroom procedure a few generations down the ol rabbit hole. #resistenceisfutile ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ 🌴 📸
Deffanantly unaffordable at that monthly or yearly price. I guess some just have a little more of that green stuff than others. Nice program looks like a lot of fun to use.
I think it might be handy software but to be honest, Ive spent less on a used car. Everything done is attainable in PS. Just have to weigh out pros and cons of time.
Tried to download the Boris FX Optics, locked up the computer, then restarted still couldn't get it to open, huge waste of time. Saw that a lot of other people had the same issues.
Is this a paid/affiliate review or independent...it feels like a paid/affiliate review but didn't see the disclaimer. I've been interested in Boris FX for a while but find it troubling that all the reviews I see are affiliate or paid promotions... looking for independent information.
It’s paid (video is marked as such), but my opinions are not paid and are honest. If you’re looking for a program that does these things, I find it much faster and easier than doing them in Photoshop and at nine dollars a month it’s certainly worth it
You can also get a subscription for $99/year. With Vanessa's code this is: $79 which = approx $6/month. For a professional collection of effects, we think this is a great value. ;)
If you would like to pay by PAYPAL, you can call the Boris FX phone number and a sales rep can take your order OR Toolfarm is an online reseller that sells Optics and takes PAYPAL. Note, Vanessa's discount is only available thru Boris FX. www.toolfarm.com/buy/boris_fx_optics/
Everything has it's place but to me it's not fair to submit a photo to a PPA contest for Merit and your competing against guys that are PS experts. My old motto was get it right in the camera. When I was a student in Daytona Jerry Eulsman was the Darkroom Magician, nobody compared to him. He often used up to 10 negatives in producing a final image. A Masterpiece of darkroom magic. Check out some of his books. I believe in using PS in smoothing out a woman's complexion in acne problems, but there are guys totally making women look like wax figures.
Yes Photoshop and over editing is ruining photography similar to the way Spotify and streaming is hurting artist. It's disgusting how everyone's so big on shooting in raw like that's a must to be a legit photographer but then they all go full Hiroshima nuclear waste in Photoshop
The subscription pri ongoing is stupid expensive. These effects are nothing new. They just put other programs n in this one and are now charging thousands a year for a subscription. No thanks...
I live in New York, but from Britain originally, which has a horrible prime minister called Boris, so I’m having nothing to do with a piece of software that has Boris in its name.
Great software if you can use it. They asked me for my name, email, password, and phone number when I signed up. Ok, that's fair. They sent me a link with a special code, opened the email, pasted the code, was able to access the download link. Then I downloaded it, which was slow and took over 30 minutes (I have a fast connection). After downloading, I installed it, which was uneventful. Then I start the software, now it's asking me if I want to buy or use the trial. I say trial. It once again asks me for my name, phone number, email address, etc, just to request activation for a trial (I thought I did this already on their website). You've got to be kidding me. Adobe isn't this bad. I uninstalled it after this fiasco. You would think I was asking for the golden key to the kingdom. No thank you, I'll stick with PS. They are NOT THAT special.
The Optics download is 1.2GB which should take only a few minutes on a fast connection. As far as submitting your email, you can tick the opt-out button and you will not receive any spam. Sorry, that you feel put off, but we think the software is quite worth it.
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Love Boris FX. I use their particle app for motion graphics. Hope you're doing well, lady
Okay you convinced me! I bought it with your discount code thank you. I'm a creative portrait and cosplay photographer so this will be my new secret weapon.
enJOY it!
@@VanessaJoy I see what you did there. It will be a GROVE of fun. hmm that didn't sound as good.
Congrats! Optics seems to be used a lot these days in cosplay and sci-fi photography. ;)
@@borisfxlearn Yep and we can all see why! I have a question - the sparks, fog, particles, and other texture type overlays are they procedurally generated or coming from source images / video files?
@@DanielGrovePhoto Everything is Optics is procedural which is why it is so unique. If you want to edit and change the particle emitters, we have a how training series on this: ruclips.net/p/PLhBcSXnaOWWEbpMV4efTPcX8hb8kmk_sa
Whatever ends up on the canvas ist the art. Art consumers mostly don't care about the steps needed to get there. If it's easier to do something digital, do it.
The line will only get blurrier with Time.
So true
This is great. I think that post work is still part of the process and is an extension of the artist’s vision. I started photography back in 2000 when my favorite teacher in high school put a camera in my hand, and mentored me. All the way up to 2020 I never used photoshop because I was always taught to get it right in camera. I decided to play around with PS and immediately loved the ability to expand my creativity with post. I spent 20 years without using programs like these but I find it very refreshing nowadays to have the ability to create beyond what traditional methods will allow. Great video and I have always admired your work🔥🔥🔥
Few Photographers have inspired me and have pushed me to try new things. I already enjoy your down to earth personality, sense of humor and the fact that you shoot with Canon, like come on.... (no shots at Sony users or any other ones) but I appreciate these videos because they give me another thing to try with my photography. And truth be told, if I didn't see this review and your take, I don't think I would be comfortable with just getting it. Appreciate the vid and keep killing it, the Northeast misses you!!!
This looks like a good program! Re your ? about whether editing is "killing photography," one thing I always like to do before editing (if needed) is to evaluate my pics first. That way I can continue to grow, relegating editing to want-to instead of have-to!
OMG, I have to try it. Thanks for sharing!
You’ll have fun!
My $0.02 as follows ===> I think you give the customer what they want. If they want their wedding (or other event) to look like a CGI scene from Marvel comics complete with 'Spider Bride' then give them that. This software you demoed then becomes another skill in the photographer's black doctor bag. If, on the other hand, they want pictures which truly capture the moment, then give them those images accordingly which they will have for the rest of their lives to look back on. I also don't see an issue with using this software in post to simplify the generation of images which alternatively would require special strobe/lighting effects (such as simulating the golden hour on a cloudy day). I especially think this software would be very popular in product photography where the marketing hucksters run wild.
This video was the first I'd heard of Boris. When my new computer arrives, I will be getting this!
Sweeeet. You’ll have fun for sure
Gosh wow! That takes me back, "Boris Fx." I remember using that when I had photoshop 5 in the late 1990's. I wonder if "Alien skin" and "Kai's effects" are still going?
Ha maybe?
Very interesting. I like some of the new approaches. Not sure I'll subscribe, but will think on it. Really appreciated your review and showing us what it can do.
It’s definitely a black hole of possibilities! Lol I had a hard time recording this bc I kept going down the rabbit hole there was just so much
It’s the Katelyn James music at minute 1!
Two words… “digital art” nothing wrong with doing that with our photography. It adds another level of artistry to our work. I know “purists” will disagree with these concepts and argue that “this isn’t photography”. I can agree on that point and I have a heart for “getting it right” in camera especially coming from the days of film and darkrooms. But even back then masters in photography used numerous darkroom “tricks” to achieve their final results as they perceived them in their mind and not necessarily what the eye actually saw at the time the photo was taken. There is much to be said about both sides of this equation and I can agree that there is a time and place for both. Oh and BTW I enjoy your videos and professional work!
I totally agree with you. There is a difference between photography and , I call it, photographic art. If I am hired to do a portrait of someone. Photography. If I am out making image for myself and there is something in the image I don't like and I move it or delete it....photo art. This just give the photographer the assets to let their imaginations run wild
I'm torn. Part of me things of the cool things that could be done. But then I think about clients that would only want those types of images, and how much it could add to my workflow. But it still looks intriguing. The other part of me is wanting to keep photography more realistic (I know, we manipulate late, use props, etc. to change a scene, this is a step or four above that :) ), and keep things as they are.
It’s my opinion, there are two different art forms with respect to photography, especially digital photography. There is the art form of photography itself and then there is “Post Production”. Personally, I don’t like a lot of post production work or changes to images, because I feel like it changes the reality of the image. I do appreciate the art of post production and I think it’s cool and neat what can be done, but I feel like it’s overdone way too often. IMO
The unfun thing about BorisFx is that you have to open it in Photoshop. Couldn't tell when last I used that program. Would have loved a Lightroom plugin
No you don’t. It’s a stand alone as well
@@VanessaJoy great! i will check them out. can it batch process?
It works in Lightroom Classic as well.
Love your way of presenting this. Strong words work as both sides of this fence no doubt have strong feelings about this subject matter.
Personally I like the more honest and true version of photography ..... but how true and honest is that really with lens, format , perspective choices playing a huge part in the final photograph.
I do draw the line at adding light in post..naa do that shit in camera where you can.
As for skin work.. I favour doing a little as possible. No one has uniform skin texture.. no one. but sadly it seems too of become the norm in retouching and in the MSM. I often wonder what affect it will have psychologically on younger generations.
Nobody is perfect.. yet everyone is perfect as they are because they are a work in progress.
Fixing images is one thing - But changing reality can be a little sad...
Totally agree >> get it 95% right in Camera
“Fixing” means making it match what I saw in my vision. If you’ve ever used a gel to fake golden hour, for example, you’ve done the same thing with a different tool. Ever used a non-functioning prop? One could argue makeup is just ‘out of camera’ photoshop. Any effect applied with a brush is effectively a composite.
Somewhere there was a painter complaining about how photographs took the art out of painting, and now they laugh as they are back in the game.
Do you like the picture at the end? Does your client? If so, you did a good job. If I absolutely hate your image, and I am not your client, what does it matter to you?
@@v3rlon I agree with this. In analog days, photographers used manual dodge and burn techniques when printing and chemical development processes to achieve their vision. Software is just another tool that can be used creatively, tastefully, or over the top. One thing I like about the Optics plugin is it is not using AI... many of the effects in the Optics and gels section recreate historical stocks, physical lenses, gels, and gobo patterns. I think the argument is a bit dated for 2022.
I find it can distraction when all you see is the photoshop though this is personal preference. I use my M42 film lens on my T7 and do basic edits to enhance or sharpen the photo.
I still can’t get Boris FX Optics to work on my 16” MBP M3 Max. I’ve been using BFX software in AE for years and the stuff it can do for video work is simply magic. (Except Optics, for whatever reason meh)
Very cool!
This looks pretty 🔥. May have to take advantage. Especially if the skin smoothing looks and works better than neural filters in photoshop. What’s your thoughts on that part?
I haven’t used the photoshop filters, I’ve just don’t frequency separation if I was going to really retouch. This is definitely easier than that option
@@VanessaJoy that’s what I was thinking your say regarding frequency separation and this. Love how you explained everything. Looking forward to using this for some creative work
@@paigecfrancis the Beauty Studio effect in Optics has built-in frequency separation which makes touch-ups a lot simpler. This video shows Beauty Studio filter in Premiere but the workflow is similar in Optics (without the need to do animated masking of course): ruclips.net/video/h8LZMrqCI90/видео.html
How long is the code good for? I'm considering purchasing this upcoming week (Still deciding between a subscription versus a license).
It’s not good this week because they have a different sale going on right now (25% off - which is better than mine so go snag it now!)
@@VanessaJoy - I appreciate the heads up!
I too, philosophically, like the "get it in the camera" school.
But as soon as I realized that once I shot something on black & white film then diffused it with a chunk nylon stocking (which is a whole other philosophical discussion) I was altering the source reality.
This is simply that darkroom procedure a few generations down the ol rabbit hole.
#resistenceisfutile
⭐ ⭐ ⭐ 🌴 📸
Haha. I did the stockings thing too back in the day
Deffanantly unaffordable at that monthly or yearly price. I guess some just have a little more of that green stuff than others. Nice program looks like a lot of fun to use.
At $9?
@@VanessaJoy I think they saw the price for the whole suite at $1300 and didn't realize this is just one part being mentioned.
Nice job!
Thanks!
Nice!!
Thanks!
I think it might be handy software but to be honest, Ive spent less on a used car. Everything done is attainable in PS. Just have to weigh out pros and cons of time.
$9 a month is less than photoshop. How is that more than a used car?
@@VanessaJoy No Vanessa. The Suite is 1295.00 or 175.00 / month. Hardly a bargain.
@@RichardJPhotog You’re looking at the wrong thing. This is just optics. It’s nine dollars a month
Tried to download the Boris FX Optics, locked up the computer, then restarted still couldn't get it to open, huge waste of time. Saw that a lot of other people had the same issues.
Wow really? What system are you using?
Is this a paid/affiliate review or independent...it feels like a paid/affiliate review but didn't see the disclaimer.
I've been interested in Boris FX for a while but find it troubling that all the reviews I see are affiliate or paid promotions... looking for independent information.
It’s paid (video is marked as such), but my opinions are not paid and are honest. If you’re looking for a program that does these things, I find it much faster and easier than doing them in Photoshop and at nine dollars a month it’s certainly worth it
@@VanessaJoy thanks for replying... the usual indicator didn't flash up but I think that happens sometimes via the TV.
discount code no worky
Updated!
bit.ly/borisjoy and use the DISCOUNT CODE vanessa-optics22.
Seems like a great program but the price 😳😳
You can also get a subscription for $99/year. With Vanessa's code this is: $79 which = approx $6/month. For a professional collection of effects, we think this is a great value. ;)
$9 a month?
@@VanessaJoy I think I was looking at the entire creative suite prices. I take that back and I will go download now. lol
Your 20% code is not working
Updated!
bit.ly/borisjoy DISCOUNT CODE vanessa-optics22.
Looks great but they don’t accept PayPal and I’m not giving them my credit card information. Too Bad
If you would like to pay by PAYPAL, you can call the Boris FX phone number and a sales rep can take your order OR Toolfarm is an online reseller that sells Optics and takes PAYPAL. Note, Vanessa's discount is only available thru Boris FX. www.toolfarm.com/buy/boris_fx_optics/
poo
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Everything has it's place but to me it's not fair to submit a photo to a PPA contest for Merit and your competing against guys that are PS experts. My old motto was get it right in the camera. When I was a student in Daytona Jerry Eulsman was the Darkroom Magician, nobody compared to him. He often used up to 10 negatives in producing a final image. A Masterpiece of darkroom magic. Check out some of his books. I believe in using PS in smoothing out a woman's complexion in acne problems, but there are guys totally making women look like wax figures.
$1200 😮😮😮
No. You’re looking at the wrong program
Anything has to be better than PS.
So texany. but Yeah, photography is certainly different than compositing
Texany??
Yes Photoshop and over editing is ruining photography similar to the way Spotify and streaming is hurting artist. It's disgusting how everyone's so big on shooting in raw like that's a must to be a legit photographer but then they all go full Hiroshima nuclear waste in Photoshop
I feel your pain
It's great but too expensive ($1200) and there are much cheaper ways to achieve the same results.
It’s $9 a month...
Optics is $149 for outright purchase or has $99/year or $9/mo subscription option. It looks like you are looking at the wrong product.
Thank you for the correction there were different version of the product line and I thought it was the bundle package
The subscription pri ongoing is stupid expensive. These effects are nothing new. They just put other programs n in this one and are now charging thousands a year for a subscription. No thanks...
The monthly subscription is only $9. You are looking at the wrong product.
Yeah it’s just $9
1300 usd !!!! Madness
That's for a different bundle/suite. Optics is $9/mo.
yeah you're looking at the wrong thing
I live in New York, but from Britain originally, which has a horrible prime minister called Boris, so I’m having nothing to do with a piece of software that has Boris in its name.
😂 I can’t argue with that thought process
Great software if you can use it. They asked me for my name, email, password, and phone number when I signed up. Ok, that's fair. They sent me a link with a special code, opened the email, pasted the code, was able to access the download link. Then I downloaded it, which was slow and took over 30 minutes (I have a fast connection).
After downloading, I installed it, which was uneventful. Then I start the software, now it's asking me if I want to buy or use the trial. I say trial. It once again asks me for my name, phone number, email address, etc, just to request activation for a trial (I thought I did this already on their website). You've got to be kidding me. Adobe isn't this bad. I uninstalled it after this fiasco. You would think I was asking for the golden key to the kingdom. No thank you, I'll stick with PS. They are NOT THAT special.
The Optics download is 1.2GB which should take only a few minutes on a fast connection. As far as submitting your email, you can tick the opt-out button and you will not receive any spam. Sorry, that you feel put off, but we think the software is quite worth it.
@@BorisFXco I will give it a try again in a bit, and I'll let you know. Thanks for the quick response.