GT Legends - A Casual Review
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- GT Legends is a favorite of many. I must say I originally pushed GTL aside back in the day after I discovered it wasn't really a 'historic' simulation, and actually a sim which focused on racing historic cars in the modern day. I think many wanted something like Grand Prix Legends for sportscars and were confused by what we did get. Years later I can see I was very wrong about this sim at the time. GT Legends is a fantastic amount of fun to race historic cars, even if they are on modern circuits. Couple that with the great career-style "Cup Challenge" mode and you have a very compelling single player game that will likely keep you entertained for months. Simbin at their best!
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0:00 Intro
1:10 Background
3:05 Cars
6:44 Tracks
9:00 Career Overview
10:54 Sim Intro
14:09 Race 1 - Magny Cours
20:45 Race 2 - Nurburgring
27:13 Race 3 - Monza
36:05 Final Thoughts 
Игры
IIRC they used the "vintage cars in modern era" route as a shortcut to get around licensing issues. To do a real historical sim they would have had to license each car and track individually, at a time when a lot of manufacturers didn't see the value in putting their cars in sims. To get around that Simbin simply licensed the FIA historical series to get all the cars and tracks in that.
I think the game stood up pretty well looking back at it, Interestingly when we developed GTL we used a hybrid engine, where GTR1 was made upon the Gmotor1.0 platform Gmotor 2 was not used for GTL, but more or less a hybrid of Gmotor 1 & 2, call it Gmotor1.5, sadly it never got some of the better tyre model tweaks we had with V2.0 for GTR2 onwards. Still one of my favourite games from the past.
You were a part of the team?
@@CatchiestWorm12 Yep, since before we became a company and were just a mod group in fact.
@@PhantomMark that's really cool, I bought GTL in 1st grade and quite literally grew up with it, I hope you understand how appreciated your work was. Other childhood games of mine included RACE 07 (and expansions) and GTR2. I will defend SimBin games to the grave. Do you know what happened to the plans for GT Legends 2? It was announced that development was postponed and then radio silence, I really hope that project is still alive..
@@CatchiestWorm12 no chance unless Ian Bell magically finds some people to work with him on something, then there is the issue with licencing to deal with as well.
Большое спасибо за ваш труд! Это странно, но мне кажется, что эта игра выглядит красивее, чем более поздняя GTR2! Да и физика кажется чуть "тяжелее"! В общем, кажется, что в эту игру вложили больше сил!
10:57 I liked the 3 sliders it has for understeer/oversteer handling, soft/hard suspension and short/tall gearing. Like I knew that a car was oversteering or understeering but didn't know what adjustments to make in the garage so I could just use the slider instead and then maybe go look at the numbers in the garage. It's like being a driver and telling your mechanic what the car feels like instead of having to be the mechanic too. I eventually just started downloading setups though.
Full career mode series please!
i concur!
I agree!!
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@Jamir Johnny and you can go away too, spam sympathizer
agree
This was a realy nice game! I saw a Cortina here with a checkered roof and remember me racing in real life with my Cortina back in 1998 - 99 against Mikael Gustavsson with a similar livery. Well it turned out to be Mikael Gustavsson here in the game!! I also saw that Scandinavian Raceway (Anderstorp) was one of the cirquits you could race on. Been there, done that! Thanks for the upload and Cheers from Sweden
This was the game that taught me to heel-toe using a keyboard! Favorite sim of my childhood. The nice thing about the modern FIA historic standards is that the cars are much more balanced in overall ability thanks to technical regs.
I'm late to racing sims and keep seeing mention of AC. I'm presuming this is an acronym for it's full name. What is AC?
Of course, what a fool - Assetto Corsa!!!!
You didn't crush your keyboard with your foot?
@@grahamhobson4091 , He didn't even say AC in his comment.
@@Dethmeister Haha, I even replied to the wrong comment
Just discovered your channel yesterday. What a gem. While other sim youtubbers showing off themselves, you showing a brilliant work simmilar to journalism with great passion. Best regards.
I remember buying a combo of GTR2 and GT Legends many years ago. Never really played GT Legends for probably the reasons why you didnt when it was a newer sim. Loveddd GTR2. Logged so many hours on that sim especially with the many mods and downloadable tracks you can use.
Edit: I remember downloading a F1 1988 mod and what I like the most about it is that whoever made the mod, accurately modeled who were to have more mechanical failures over others. After a full race, 26 cars would start but maybe 10 or so would finish.
I still have my original disk! Played this game soo much!
Same :D
i lost mine :/
This game still lives within AC now. It´s quite interesting how similar it looks compared to AC. Having in mind this is already 16 years old.
Ai definitely better here
Of course with the AC Legends mods and the other mods from Bazza.
Crap, did't know about this AC mods. Gotta compare it, even with the AI. I remember the AI of GT Legends being unbalanced, with it being slow as hell on some tracks, and fast as hell on others. On the same settings.
@@mondodimotori ac definitely has more ai issues
Nice review Jake, but you are missing the most important part i think. The game is still alive today. In one of the championships we are expecting around 75 drivers this Sunday. The championship is called Endurance Touring Cars Championship and we will be separated in 3 servers. The race will be around 2 hours but not long ago we had a team event with 4x2 hour races at Spa-Francorchamps. And it was a lot of fun as most of the drivers are playing GT Legends for more than 10 years.
So the game is going still very strong and i don't want to make advertisements but i have hundreds of GT Legends videos during the past year - mostly league racing but i am trying to complete the Career Mode, for which you talk on your channel. There are 5 Cup Stages and already i am on the last stage - Cup Stage E, so i hope i will finish the game soon.
Your review is great and i gave you a thumb up. But i hope you will review the game again with the Online mentioning and the best track and car mods as well. I can help a lot if you need help here.
God I loved this game. Should really get around to reinstalling it sometime.
Being quite a neophyte of simracing, driving sims for less than two years, I had no chance of playing this back in the day. Lately I found in my childhood home an old DVD bundled with a magazine with GT Legends on it. Knowing it's an old SimBin title, I just couldn't resist taking it to my place. It felt like finding a hidden treasure. Here I am now, just finishing Cup Stage A today with a full set of Diamond trophies, having one of the best experiences in my simracing journey, over 15 years after this game got released. All while ACC or AMS2 collect virtual dust on my virtual shelf.
Modern sims got too tangled up in their technical advancement and pursuit of meaningless complexity, forgetting about what you mentioned is the secret to GT Legends' (or GTR2, or Gran Turismo or Forza Horizon for that matter) excellence - the packaging. GTL provided player not only with a fairly robust and complex simulation, that still holds up today (!), but also with a set of well-crafted challenges to overcome and goals to pursue. It's as much a good sim, as it is a good game, making for an excellent complete package. It's a type of product that current sim market desperately needs for a fresh breath of air, instead of another fancy, but ultimately shallow set of cars, tracks and some extra features sprinkled on top of them, devoid of meaningful, engaging gameplay that will make you actually drive the hell out of that content. I should end with some clever summarizing remark, but I have none.
Still the most visceral racing game. No other sim gives the impression of tyre grip, suspension compression and sheer fun like GT Legends. It holds up very well even now. Absolute joy of a sim.
This is the game that got me hooked to Zolder
Same! I don't know why people hate it so much!
@@flyingphoenix113 I think it must be boomers, still feeling the suffer from the 70ies when F1 grand prix left Spa for a short while and still compares the incomparable. I remember a classic Zolder version to F1C99-02 which really turned me into Zolder. Both older versions and the newest for ACC competitive racing I'm having a blast while driving. Think I have to visit the real world Zolder track behind a wheel in the future.
This brings back a lot of fond memories. I was into GTL, GTR1 and 2, and rfactor back in the day. All of my driving was online though. I don't remember doing much offline against AI. I know there was a hotlap leaderboard somewhere at the time, and I entered some nice lap times there. The online racing was fiercely competitive, and developing a good setup was crucial to success. Shoutout to anyone that remembers the Simjunkies forum. It was a small sort of club, but was a good group of guys to race with. If I had a favorite combo, it would have to be the 906 at Mosport.
I wore out a couple of G25 wheels and then got busy with life, so I haven't done any sim racing since 2014. I still have my windows xp rig though. It's loaded with every imaginable mod in GTL and I think I also have the power and glory mod for GTR2.
I stumbled onto this excellent channel a few months ago and really enjoy the content. I'm starting to feel like I might have to get a wheel and fire up the old xp box again.
I won every race in multiplayer after months of playing because I've mastered the yellow detomaso pantera. They called me the king. I played on the Logitech mono racing wheel. I loved that game more then other racing games. It's unforgiving but most rewarding and I love that till now
You had me at "Let's Race GPL 1965 #1". But your content lately has been one walk-off HR after another...in variety and interesting, quality content!
Oh my god! I used to love this game back then, but my PC could barely run it, and i only had a shitty non-FFB wheel to play it with. Thank you for reminding me of this awesome game, i'm already installing it!
What we need now is a full 2005 FIA TC-65 (or better) championship in this game. Maybe you can roleplay a now old Ritchie Axelson for a last big hurrah after his prime with those good oldies.
This Thing is still on my HD + Altbierbude Mods
Fun fact: i live currently near Anderstorp. The town is located in a region called Gislaved here in Sweden and last summer there was a big car meet there, and i was there too! There were soo many good cars there, i saw a ken miles GT40 and hot JDMs!
GTL was my first experience of sim-esque racing games. I think I got it from one of those scholastic book fairs as a kid? I had no idea what I was doing and redlined a Mini down Anderstorp until the engine caught fire!
Great walkthrough! I did a double take when this came up in my feed. Nostalgia on high while watching this!
My first pc racing sim, a game I still play to this day and love to absolute bits
Thank you for another casual review. Please do more of this game, it's amazing
I never knew this game existed. Well done on the thorough outline and demo of it. Looks pretty good.
And look at you, almost at 20k 😉
In the late 2000s, I recalled playing this game on my mother's outdated Compaq laptop. Testing out ancient autos like this makes me long for simpler times. Too bad the GT Legends copy was lost when the previous laptop died. While it lasted, it was enjoyable.
I knew this game because of a rFactor conversion mod called "Historic GT & Touring Cars". That mod will check whether you have GTL installed. The mod and this game are all of the very high quality.
Surprised nobody has mentioned how Simbin bundled Starforce with this, so when you install the game it wiped your HDD boot record and you can't run windows anymore. Bit of a dick move, I thought, always avoided them after that.
Yeah, StarForce was by far the worst feature of an otherwise brilliant game. Never knew a single owner who had a good word to say about that thing. It's ironic in a way that it was Steam, the original home of DRM gaming, who've made GTL accessible to newer players by adding it to their store DRM-free!
I'd love to see you come back to this and do some 70s racing. I have yet to see anyone get that far!
Thought you had a new intro, thought this is the best of any sim channel on YT 😁
*Shameless plug* You may try a mod called PLGTL - it's a small physics overhaul that we did a while back. Nothing ground breaking but I think it better portrays how these classics handle on and over the limit. Newest version is available on Racedepartment. It fixes a few vanilla bugs, has new tires based on the data we've found and a bit of other stuff. Package also includes FFB file and wheel setup notes which are useful, as GTL has variable steering turned on in .plr file that changes how wheel input is affected at lower speeds.
So happy for this video! This sim got me permanently addicted to the Cortina.
looks really fun! i love the combination of classic games running on modern hardware... there's something very appealing to me about that low-polygon/hi-rez look. can't get enough.
This looks like so much fun. Can't wait to get back home and get me a wheel and run this, and maybe raceroom for online play.
I have the disc version, bought toghether with Quattroruote (a popular cars journal in Italy), at 4,80 euros apparently. When I was a kid I had just the keyboard to play with so it was not so enjoyable, but I remember having fun watching the cars crashing at the Variante Bassa at Imola 😂😂. I have also the steam version because the CD doesn't work with Win10, and i have installed tons of mods from altbierbude. Still a very fun game.
I did try it earlier this year after seeing your 1st video Jake. Then I had to reformat my pc and haven't put it back on since. To be honest I have been spoilt by the modern life-like Sims we now have. Assetto Corsa is my main goto sim followed by AMS and also European Truck Simulator 😁
thank you to bring back some really ggod one their, i live it, i pass so many hours on this sim Its ones of my favorite sim. Thank you very much deer friends!!
I learned to heel and toe on this , an essential skill for this sim
Great selection of cars and tracks. Man that looks great fun, I love driving cars like that. Exciting racing. Noticeable that theres not much squeely understeer noise.
I originally bought GTR2 and this game came in the bundle. Such a gem!
This is definitely one of my favourite sims, I really enjoy the car roster.
I played this first at the games convention in Leipzig. I was instantly in love. At the time I of course had a huge gtr with all of the mods through the mod auto updater. Great times!
Love this game so much.... Mod community has been incredible for years. So much content! BANGER!!!!! (as a bonus it is still very playable on low powered pcs.... 4gb ram and a 512mb graphics card will just do!) ps, i can highly recommend the "Crystal Palace" track and as many old UK touring cars that you can get on the track.
Monza Junior was used by the Formula Junior championship, with the last chicane.
Wingless formula car (Formula Ford look alike) custom built by each racer. All used the same engine that was the 500cc from the early fiat 500. The moved to the Fire 1.2 8v later in the 90s. Stopped using this track for homologation reasons.
This is amazing, can't wait to watch through this! If you're reviewing older titles, would you be interested in reviewing Power and Glory? I think it improves on everything GT Legends wanted to be.
I remember playing this back when it came out and being so stunned about the graphics quality. And imo it still looks nice.
KEK, I remember that cup. I actually managed to snatch the championship with the Cortina by winning in Magny Cours and whit a second place at the Nurburgring, because the big american beasts and the Alfa would eat my small Lotus on the straight of Monza, thus I had to settle outside the podium places.
Just downloaded this myself recently with the Simbin bundle. Pretty great for the time!
My GPL league also ran this. It was tremendous. Very hard, close racing. The AC mod that puts all this into AC is fabulous.
I lived on this game for so long, I don't regret a single minute, with all the mods this was a glorious experience 😊❤
I love this game and the Monza Junior layout that has a chicane built out of garbage and old tyres at the end of Parabolica.
I loved this game so much. This resembled me so much about GPL. I always loved racing sims where cars would slide and be unstable etc. and not super hyper fast. There was so much modern racing sims around but a game which concentrates to the older stuff - after GP Legends there was zero. I didn't mind that the series was not period correct but rather the FIA Historic Racing. Setting up cars was enough simple yet enough interesting with out any over complexity like today's iRacing etc. Thus it was enjoyable, didn't take ages to "setup your car". I used to play the Solo Mode trough and then went for multiplayer mode which I played ... *alot*
So many fond memories.
16:14 that's a serious race!
This was my favourite Sim until the Power and Glory mod for GTR2 came out. I also was disappointed that you couldn't race the historic versions of the tracks. Fortunately the modding community did that job after some time.
I would like to see more of GTL on your channel.
This was a great game - AI was fantastic for a challenge - looks like it still stands up pretty well. Loved PnG - a shame they weren't able to complete everything they were looking to do originally.
The TVR 400 on GTL was an absolute monster as I remember - had to be light as a feather on the throttle coming out of the corners and it would lock the back wheels and spin you off in a second if you tried to downshift a fraction too early.
Hi, GPlaps this is the best game I have ever played man .the only sim that you can drive cars from the old era. I really enjoyed this sim I got last year for $33.00 USA dollars it is called the Sim Bin Bundle this some has al the car I want and more some you can even download from Racedepartment and tracks so this sim has a lot more to offer so GPLaps glad that you did this video on this great sim these cars have no downforce and no good brakes so they are still the car of old so you should enjoy them like I do
I purchased this the other day off Steam. Love it so far.
One thing I can say about this game is that it nailed the car handling. The first car you drive is a Mini Cooper and it’s very nimble in the corners and easy to control. Later on you step into a Mustang and it requires much more finesse in the corners. It’s a much heavier car with much more power and it feels as such. And then after going through the career progression a little more you get into one of the Porsche 911 RSRs and its weight is very much biased to the rear, just like it’s supposed to be, which makes it want to spin every chance it gets. I still have the game and still play it from time to time, been thinking about modding it for more car variety and tracks.
The TC65 stuff you can abuse to the point even the Marquis de Sade would be crying uncle. The high power 76 stuff is always trying to kill you.
Wow. Just finished empty box’s old series on GTL and then this gets uploaded 20 minutes after
I do like it. Please do more.
I'd love a Classic racing style game with cars 1990 or older for modern console and PC
loved this game, i think i got up to an ac cobra in the career! 10/10 would watch you do a career
I really need to give this game a go at some point always had it sitting in steam regarding your question for maybe more of it I would love a series on this and maybe even a playthrough.
I had fun watching this. Looks very impressive for a 16 year old game. Will see if I can get a copy. Certainly this game won't make my PC struggle as much as AC does when I try to race.
Back then I was addicted to this game.
A great and cheap game with tons of content available at RD. I spent two years of my life playing it before I switched to GPL. This game is a sim racing school. Good review Jake . Salute.
Well, back in 2006 when I started playing GT Legends purchased together with GTR2, I took it as a classic alternative to GTR2 before a majority of classic mods and classic tracks came to the latter.
Speaking the tracks I just thought of racing classic festivals on tracks of modern standards and didn't even think of Targa Florio, 60ies Nordschleife, Rouen-Les-Essarts and so on at first hand.
However, when classic track mods came up from the sea, I must say I was wild about GTL. But that was before I discovered the Power & Glory Mod for GTR2. I think since PnG v.3.0 came out in 2012 I didn't look back, but just playing GTL very rarely. But still I get surprised by the quality of the game.
This game was great, even though I remember not making actual progress in it. As you said, I just unlocked everything from the start so I could toy around. But I do prefer a racing game with structure/a progression system. This would've been one of my first or early PC sims and I was blown away by the audio and feel. I remember blasting the sound while racing around in an Elan. I also remember revisiting it some years later and tweaking the difficulty settings as you mentioned because I wanted all the appropriate "Professional" settings (i.e. lack of driving aids) but the Expert difficulty AI was just a bit too hard for me to ever win. So you can adjust the files so you get "Professional" but with the AI set one tier lower.
And in terms of packaging as you touch on, this is exactly what I find frustrating about newer sims. They add one or two cars from an era or series and thats it. Nothing is cohesive and I don't want to race in a series with one or two cars. I'm going to have to check out this Power & Glory mod I think.
Thess type of cars are my favourite in sims. There are great free mod packs for AC if you search for "Touring car legends", did a few online races with the 70's pack, great fun
The only thing I like about GTL now is the career mode. Better take the Race Injection game, install GTR Evo and the GTR2, GTL and AL Super Touring Seasons mods in it, as well as many tracks. You will get a universal simulator with very low system requirements. I highly recommend it to owners of old and weak hardware. Now I drove 12 hours of Bathurst on the Chevy Camaro'69, got a lot of pleasure.
Useful comment! Thanks for that!
Thanks for this very good tip
Great review, I still have the original disc but would not work as it had ‘Starforce' copy protection that crashed my computer. Got if off steam many many years later and it runs great with triple screens. Love this game to death, got to review the power and glory mod please. Thanks for the great content.
I'm not a sim racer, but loved this game. Played it to completion with a gamepad on easier settings. I remember the satisfaction when I was able to keep the Mustang on track for an entire race.
I love the feeling of the cars in this game. A great sim. Still play through steam all the time, for 3 minutes.
I paused the video, after you said you were a young American I could understand you not talking about the Ford Capri, you did show it tough. But it was nicknamed: Porsche Killer, for a reason 😉
12:00 - You can adjust Steering lock to 35-40 degree in garage. It should work then better with modern degree of rotations since front wheels of car turn more and steering is snappier.
The early 60s GT350s weren't quite the 'bruiser' other American cars of the era were known for. They had front disks, and weren't actually that heavy for the era since the Shelby GT350 barely had an interior. After I believe 66 or so they started putting interiors in and they got heavier.
I played it for 12 years in league racing. There is a ton of tracks and car mods. You should look on Altbierbude for example. Enjoy it, it is still my favourite racing sim.
What a game changer
Brilliant game
It was a good game, one that teaches the player how hard and difficult real life racing is. You really had to improve your driving skill throughout the game to win.
Some of the cars are a little harder than real life tho, but it was pretty good for the time for sure.
I absolutely adored this game, but it was really difficult to get working on newer machines for a bit. Really good fun.
I love this game so much. Have over 40GB of mods and play vs ai regularly. However I play with gamepad as this is my alternative to FH4 and AoR as "chill out" game when I don't feel like setting up my rig.
We really need spiritual successor, we need a game with vintage touring cars. And I want any game to feature 60's ETCC and vehicles like BMW 700.
As others have stated Power and Glory was basically this sim taken to the next level
Loved the modded version (Historic -X) in Rfactor 1, wish it comes to AMS2 one day!
There was a great GT Legends mod for GTR Evolution. I still got all the mods.
finally ordered.
This game was way ahead of its time.
Hi GPLaps there are guys still driving this sim and they even have a world championship race that I watch but the guy you can watch in Turbo Racing has all the content on this game and car setups and more so you can come and join him in those races
I realy loved this game.
The Alpine was one of my favorites in this game
you can customize the AI quite well in the PLR file:...
to reduce them swaying all over the place, increase AI-to-AI detection to "40".
and then you can alter AI breaking and corner grip.
turning the AI brake grip to "1.0", increase cornering grip slightly to "0.935 to 0.95" whilst incrementally increase the overall boost to find your sweet spot, will make them drive quite well, especially in breaking zones. all of course dependent on what track and cars etc.
but its possible to get a very good AI experience even in such a old game, which i find very impressive.
I love this game.
Nice to see it has a career mode, something i dislike from almost all the hardcore sims is that they dont have any progression to them, i will love a Gran Turismo like career mode in a real sim
Still play this frequently with the 10th Anniversary remaster mod on Racedepartment.
Physics still feel great as I believe the core physics are based on rFactor1’s.
It was actually a hybrid engine, a mix of GMotor 1.0 and parts of GMotor 2.0, you could say GM1.5
This game was my childhood l!
this game was so good. I lost the disc, would love to play it again.