I took the weight of two as she can't help herself, much less carry him as well, if she even wants to. These are two damaged people drowning (and drowning each other) but they both refuse to let go, despite the difficulties. He is realizing that he will have to let go of her to save himself, but does he want to? Eventually this relationship will be his end and he's acknowledging he's using it as another form of self harm, or at the least making it (his hell) worse. But for now he'll keep treading water because he is "hold his breath forever" stubborn and holding onto hope she will try (her high water).
I think I have a different take on the "weight of two" lyric. To me, personally it alludes to the fact that they were both fairly broken before the breakup but knowing that she has enough trouble handling herself she won't be able to ever take on the burdens of both people. I see the album as more of a metaphor for a very traumatic breakup/experience in the relationship.
My interpretation is ‘he’ is the one who bears the weight of his own existence and will never bear the weight of two. ‘Her’ existence, at least in this world, has already ended and is dealing with the loss, longing and trauma.
So crazy about the Jaws synth, wow. But, also wanted to point out that Vessel actually has scars on one of his arms. You can always see them on his lower arm even with the black paint, in different lighting.
I took the line about "you are the perfect reminder of what these scars on my arms are for" to mean that he has self-harmed in the past due to self-loathing and that her treatment of him has justified the way he feels about himself. I may just be over-identifying too much though 😬
This is how I’ve always interpreted it, too. That line in particular, I think, gives away the meaning of Atlantic. As much as I like the accident theory, I land on the side of the entire story being a relationship that ended. She was a narcissist, he was codependent, etc., etc. I could be over-identifying, too, though…
In my opinion the style of the line " and you never bear the weight of two" is a callback to "fall for me" which let me think fall for me is a song for/about his unborn child
My personal fave!! Missing Limbs changes the pace of this album but it sets you up perfectly for TMBTE. TMBTE is my favourite album by far by Sleep Token and I Hope you enjoy it as much as i did the first time I Heard it on May 19th
Great ear!! I didnt catch the Jaws synth before. Wow! And I've had them on repeat since May 😂. I feel like this is also about a bad break up/relationship with the significant other. I think he was using drugs, self medicating, the marks on his arm could be self harm or needle tracks? Could be interpreted either way. Same as the other wouldn't bear the weight of two could mean that they didnt want to take responsibility for themselves and definitely not added with his burdens as well. Maybe. That's why I love Vessel's imagination. He guides you to what he wants to say but lets you interpret it your own way. Missing Limbs is tragic. I was sitting at Walmart waiting for pickup and just started crying 😭. Vessel just has this gift and idk if you ever heard THE SPEECH by Vessel from the room below, but man, it all just hit me while sitting there. Vessel says in the speech how he has suffered, but not just him as we have all suffered. Man! That's powerful. Goosebumps! Really liked this reaction, showed me something 😊. One more and then TMBTE 😁 ❤ Worship ❤
He literally has scars on his arm. If you watch Missing limbs from the room below and look on his left arm towrd his elbow you will see the chunks missing from his arm. Idk what exactly this man has been through but goodness seems like he literally fought death wether self inflicted or not.
Oooh, kudos to you for picking up the Jaws reference on your first hearing! As usual, I love the different possible interpretations, and I concur with yours (although the "pull myself beneath the waves" could also be an allusion to baptism in the specific context of that verse that sounds very religious to me. Maybe he tried to turn to religion as some point after living whatever traumatised him?)
i take a lot of vessels lyrics are hinting towards sleep/ sleeps' love as being the ocean, for example in levitate he says "your body is mostly blood; like water a perfect flood, engulfing me again", in telomeres he says "as you breathe me out, i drink you in" and here, "but you know i can hold my breathe forever" and at the end of the song it sounds as though he is drowning, and in take me back to eden he says "we dive... but no one told me not to breathe, and now the weightlessness recedes". even in drag me under i take it a quite literally him saying she is the ocean, "drag me under again, deep into your love. hold me beneath the surface", and there are so many more examples of this but all the different ways his lyrics can be interpreted are wonderful, its such a shame though, when they are merely perceived as love/ sexual songs when i find even the "love songs" are quite emotional and despondent.
GAw I love this song so much 😭 gives me all the feels 🖤 thats crazy about the jaws riff I never even noticed that but it definitely sounds the same makes me wonder what else I've missed in other songs even though I've heard them thousands of times
This song is always a powerful experience. Also, I’m glad you were geeking out about melodic callbacks, you should go back to the end of the Offering and tell me what melodies you hear. Worship.
I am sorry but that face at 4:20 made me laugh because I remember when I heard that song for the first time ever and my reaction was nearly the same as yours 😂
I love sleep tokens breakdowns!!! Because it’s always so heavy and chaotic. Most of the time like vessels mental state. Also I love vessels scream’s because they sound like he’s focused on the emotion more than the sound and pitch of it.
Top Tier Song! And yes, you heard correctly, this is the Jaws riff. There is a Jaws / Hight Water Mash on RUclips if you want to give that a listen. It's beautiful. This shirt looks very good on you btw. This is your color 🎉 Missing Limbs next 💔 Worship 🕯️
I personally believe High Water is a continuation of Sugar and has ties to both jaws and Nazareth, sort of coming a position of reflection, it seems as though he is looking back at the past almost like Sleep is the reason he cant be happy but also knowing he cant escape her clutches as you saw with the song chokehold We see in Nazareth, what seems to be malicious intent to a lover (possibly worsened by the effect sleep is having on him) and then in jaws he seems to be almost obsessive, sugar is showing an addiction to the highs of his relationship with Sleep and high water is his complete dependency on Sleep and maybe an attempt to question their relationship, "For the time being I will still avoid my own questions And we both bury that history deep But you know I can hold my breath forever" And then when compared to Sugar "You must be crazy if you think that I will give in so easily. Things we buried low Coming to the surface now, my love You must be crazy if you think that I will give up the game" and the with the end of high water it says "For the time being I will admit my defeat again" In both it mentions the buried history and the in inability to give up, (lost the battle but not the war) and you can see the way the songs draw on each other in beautiful imagery WORSHIP
Damn I think you're the first person I know who has called out the synth tie-in/call-back to Jaws. I had no idea about that... I gotta go lay down for a while now i think...
Okay- connecting to telomeres- was a baby lost? If so- a baby is essentially carried in fluid..... Was a baby lost as a cause of this fight/accident? Ahhhh so much to unfold idk
Sundowning and eps: everything is good but starts to fall apart. This place: things are really starting to hit the fan and the breakup is coming. Take me back: realization, breakup, denial and regret and recovery. Take me me back has TONS of references. The title song and Euclid in particular. Listen back to those for sure now that you have context.
I took the weight of two as she can't help herself, much less carry him as well, if she even wants to. These are two damaged people drowning (and drowning each other) but they both refuse to let go, despite the difficulties. He is realizing that he will have to let go of her to save himself, but does he want to? Eventually this relationship will be his end and he's acknowledging he's using it as another form of self harm, or at the least making it (his hell) worse. But for now he'll keep treading water because he is "hold his breath forever" stubborn and holding onto hope she will try (her high water).
I think I have a different take on the "weight of two" lyric. To me, personally it alludes to the fact that they were both fairly broken before the breakup but knowing that she has enough trouble handling herself she won't be able to ever take on the burdens of both people. I see the album as more of a metaphor for a very traumatic breakup/experience in the relationship.
That's my interpretation, too! Stay safe 🤘 ✌️
This is what I’ve always thought too 🤗
My interpretation is ‘he’ is the one who bears the weight of his own existence and will never bear the weight of two.
‘Her’ existence, at least in this world, has already ended and is dealing with the loss, longing and trauma.
So crazy about the Jaws synth, wow. But, also wanted to point out that Vessel actually has scars on one of his arms. You can always see them on his lower arm even with the black paint, in different lighting.
How have I never realized the jaws synth?! They are just incredible! So glad you pointed it out.
Just a warning...Missing Limbs is a doozy
To put it lightly 😅
I took the line about "you are the perfect reminder of what these scars on my arms are for" to mean that he has self-harmed in the past due to self-loathing and that her treatment of him has justified the way he feels about himself. I may just be over-identifying too much though 😬
This is how I’ve always interpreted it, too. That line in particular, I think, gives away the meaning of Atlantic. As much as I like the accident theory, I land on the side of the entire story being a relationship that ended. She was a narcissist, he was codependent, etc., etc. I could be over-identifying, too, though…
@UnXplainable1 Yes all of this, that's how I read Atlantic too. Maybe it takes some messed up people to get messed up lyrics 😅
That is my take on it too, I think it makes perfect sense with the other songs.
In my opinion the style of the line " and you never bear the weight of two" is a callback to "fall for me" which let me think fall for me is a song for/about his unborn child
My personal fave!! Missing Limbs changes the pace of this album but it sets you up perfectly for TMBTE. TMBTE is my favourite album by far by Sleep Token and I Hope you enjoy it as much as i did the first time I Heard it on May 19th
I love the way you dissect the lyrics and clearly care about the journey each album is taking us on. One of a kind man
Thank You!
You blew my mind a little pointing out the Jaws synth parallel.
Then listen to Jericho, Jaws, Blood Sport, and High Water. In that order. It's in all of them
Great ear!! I didnt catch the Jaws synth before. Wow! And I've had them on repeat since May 😂.
I feel like this is also about a bad break up/relationship with the significant other. I think he was using drugs, self medicating, the marks on his arm could be self harm or needle tracks? Could be interpreted either way. Same as the other wouldn't bear the weight of two could mean that they didnt want to take responsibility for themselves and definitely not added with his burdens as well. Maybe. That's why I love Vessel's imagination. He guides you to what he wants to say but lets you interpret it your own way.
Missing Limbs is tragic. I was sitting at Walmart waiting for pickup and just started crying 😭. Vessel just has this gift and idk if you ever heard THE SPEECH by Vessel from the room below, but man, it all just hit me while sitting there. Vessel says in the speech how he has suffered, but not just him as we have all suffered. Man! That's powerful. Goosebumps!
Really liked this reaction, showed me something 😊. One more and then TMBTE 😁
❤ Worship ❤
One of the greatest breakdowns of all time. On one of the greatest albums of all time. Not a single bad song
Imagine getting this forensic with any modern pop lyrics these days🤣
ST are so darn talented.
Keep rolling
He literally has scars on his arm. If you watch Missing limbs from the room below and look on his left arm towrd his elbow you will see the chunks missing from his arm. Idk what exactly this man has been through but goodness seems like he literally fought death wether self inflicted or not.
Oooh, kudos to you for picking up the Jaws reference on your first hearing! As usual, I love the different possible interpretations, and I concur with yours (although the "pull myself beneath the waves" could also be an allusion to baptism in the specific context of that verse that sounds very religious to me. Maybe he tried to turn to religion as some point after living whatever traumatised him?)
i take a lot of vessels lyrics are hinting towards sleep/ sleeps' love as being the ocean, for example in levitate he says "your body is mostly blood; like water a perfect flood, engulfing me again", in telomeres he says "as you breathe me out, i drink you in" and here, "but you know i can hold my breathe forever" and at the end of the song it sounds as though he is drowning, and in take me back to eden he says "we dive... but no one told me not to breathe, and now the weightlessness recedes". even in drag me under i take it a quite literally him saying she is the ocean, "drag me under again, deep into your love. hold me beneath the surface", and there are so many more examples of this but all the different ways his lyrics can be interpreted are wonderful, its such a shame though, when they are merely perceived as love/ sexual songs when i find even the "love songs" are quite emotional and despondent.
GAw I love this song so much 😭 gives me all the feels 🖤 thats crazy about the jaws riff I never even noticed that but it definitely sounds the same makes me wonder what else I've missed in other songs even though I've heard them thousands of times
That guitar coming in!!!!! Good god almighty
This is the one!!! I could listen to this all day everyday!
Don’t take a break from ST, just put out two vids a day 😋
This breakdown and say that you will just make me float away
my favourite from the album right now
Been waiting for this one since you started reviewing this album! So good!!
This song is always a powerful experience.
Also, I’m glad you were geeking out about melodic callbacks, you should go back to the end of the Offering and tell me what melodies you hear.
Worship.
I am sorry but that face at 4:20 made me laugh because I remember when I heard that song for the first time ever and my reaction was nearly the same as yours 😂
I love sleep tokens breakdowns!!! Because it’s always so heavy and chaotic. Most of the time like vessels mental state. Also I love vessels scream’s because they sound like he’s focused on the emotion more than the sound and pitch of it.
Breakdown oooh
Top Tier Song!
And yes, you heard correctly, this is the Jaws riff. There is a Jaws / Hight Water Mash on RUclips if you want to give that a listen. It's beautiful.
This shirt looks very good on you btw. This is your color 🎉
Missing Limbs next 💔
Worship 🕯️
I love that you noticed it said breakdown right before it happened 🤣
This song is massive! This whole album is insane 🖤
I personally believe High Water is a continuation of Sugar and has ties to both jaws and Nazareth, sort of coming a position of reflection, it seems as though he is looking back at the past almost like Sleep is the reason he cant be happy but also knowing he cant escape her clutches as you saw with the song chokehold
We see in Nazareth, what seems to be malicious intent to a lover (possibly worsened by the effect sleep is having on him) and then in jaws he seems to be almost obsessive, sugar is showing an addiction to the highs of his relationship with Sleep and high water is his complete dependency on Sleep and maybe an attempt to question their relationship,
"For the time being
I will still avoid my own questions
And we both bury that history deep
But you know I can hold my breath forever"
And then when compared to Sugar
"You must be crazy if you think that I will give in so easily.
Things we buried low
Coming to the surface now, my love
You must be crazy if you think that I will give up the game" and the with the end of high water it says
"For the time being
I will admit my defeat again"
In both it mentions the buried history and the in inability to give up, (lost the battle but not the war) and you can see the way the songs draw on each other in beautiful imagery
WORSHIP
Damn, didn't notice the jaws melody before. Good catch bro
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Damn I think you're the first person I know who has called out the synth tie-in/call-back to Jaws. I had no idea about that... I gotta go lay down for a while now i think...
Please listen to the end of the Offering, you will hear the vocal melody from Hypnosis
Note: Guitars play notes.
Okay- connecting to telomeres- was a baby lost? If so- a baby is essentially carried in fluid..... Was a baby lost as a cause of this fight/accident? Ahhhh so much to unfold idk
i took the choking on sacred vapour line as him indulging in drug use to pass his time, waiting on some holy favour to intervene in his situation.
Sundowning and eps: everything is good but starts to fall apart.
This place: things are really starting to hit the fan and the breakup is coming.
Take me back: realization, breakup, denial and regret and recovery.
Take me me back has TONS of references. The title song and Euclid in particular. Listen back to those for sure now that you have context.
Breakdown ouu 😏 😖 hahahha
Who hurt Vessel, let's go find her