Thanks Berry it helped me a lot. I baught ths rig and before the packages were delivered i watched both of youre videos. They gave me a lot of knowledge that I needed to build the rig. I lije watching youre videos.👍
Have one on the way, price dropped a bit on the black version. $619 total shipped to the USA, that's adding the cup holder, H-shifter and handbrake mounts. Will look awesome with the black Sim Lab triple monitor mount I got last year. Great review as always.
Im really glad that i found your channel! Really good and indepth reviews, and offcourse very informative. Ive been looking for a good solid entry level rig, and i think i just found the one im gonna buy! Thanks for the good job!
Barry, if you mount the front bolts of the pedaldeck to the bottom profile (not the upright that connects your wheel) you can then adjust the wheel back and forth without impacting the pedaldeck. I did this with mine.
I cannot wait to be able to order my Sim Lab GT1-EVO sim rig. All this out of stock is getting old, but I completely understand they are overloaded and working very hard.
Funny story I have on the SimLab wheel deck supporting the AF v2. It actually didn't when it was first listed. But the saga is quite comical looking back, first, UPS actually lost my P1. They went on vacation after sending out like 80 orders, where mine was the only one lost lol. They couldn't do anything because, vacation. After the reship, I find the wheel deck doesn't support the AF v2, so I start talking to them about that. They say they can drill some holes, and they'll ship it. Fast forward two weeks, I get the wheel deck, it's the same one again LOL. The holes don't match, so now at this point, I'm best friends with Darko, and he eventually got the wheel deck redesigned and into my hands. SimLabs has some of the best support I've ever seen, but this was the longest retail saga I've ever had. Cheers to those guys.
3 years later hahaha. But i will buy this. If i see there is 0 flex on the pedals... even rigs of 1000 dollars got flex there so thnx for your nice review
I have the old GT1 and I did put a vertical brace at the end of the shifter arm. I had some spare profile and connectors and just cut it to length. Much better.
You make great videos and love the detail you put into them. Motion platforms for me just don't work, I've tried some and for me doesn't bring the feeling of forces, it's just jerking you around. I've done competitive real racing in formula cars as a reference. Motion platforms like this you are testing, that just move the seat are the worst, because you keep moving around but the wheel is on the same position, so you arms are like stretching, braking also is very bad, you feel like you are gonna hit the wheel or something with your chest. This is just my honest opinion, I think it's very hard to replicate the violence of racing with the motion platforms, I really think however that shakers really do work and bring some immersion.
falchulk yes but it will move, it’s not natural to me, when I do real racing I’m not moving away or to the side of the wheel, we use seats fitted to us so we are flush
@falchulk in other words, severely limiting the motion range. When spending that cash, it would make more sense to get a tad stronger actuators and move the whole thing
Ey! I see you are an expert. I'd like to ask you some things. As a little fan of this world simracing is, I got a G29 a year ago now and I've had much fun with it. Of course that's my budget's limit as a student, but at the future when I start working I'm sure one of my first purchases will be a Simracing set up: wheel, cockpit and monitor. I hope that's in a year or two. However I find the wheel bases a bit confusing since the price point of 500€. Many little offers and I'm not sure how much worth it are them for someone that would not use it more than probably 15-20h a week. I mean, we need to do other things for sure and have social life too haha So, what would be the scale of the expensive wheel in quality terms? What's the top reference in the consumer level (not professional)? It would my definitive set up. That one you say - I don't need to improve it as there's nothing better really worth it, at least for a while until tech improves! Thanks in advance and sorry for the English - I'm from Spain.
Thank you for the review! The shifter must be mounted on the top of the bar not the side, I don't know if this is possible with the one you have used in the test.
Idiots this review totally saved me when I was building this thing as the directions were essentially non existent. Rig is awesome for the money highly recommend it. Now time for me to ditch thr xbox series x , get me a pc and a motion rig thinking of getting thus very motion platform
You could get another upright that holds the wheel and connect it at an angle from the upright past the gear mount to the bottom brace it would create a lot of strength rather than just 1 upright
Rapid_GT 99 I love my SimLab GT1 EVO. I have a DD2 mounted with the SimLab Podium mounts. It’s actually fantastic. I uploaded a couple of videos showing it off. Check it out if your still on the fence.
@@OhItsThat yes i think it's the GT1 Evo i'm going for with the DD in mind as the TR1 as i recall isn't compatible with those mounts and i intend getting the Podium F1 (DD1 Equiv), i do quite like Fanatcs podium mounts too though, which seat did you choose off SimLabs ? i'll be sure to check out your vids, cheers.
Rapid_GT 99 I use a Sparco R100. I don’t think SimLabs ships seats to my country. The GT1 EVO is perfect. I think having 90 degree vertical wheel deck uprights is better then angled ones like the Team Redline chassis uses. Easier to attach more pieces of profile to for shifters and what not.
cool cockpit, nice videos, wish i had the space for it, it seems like a really good product for the price :), well it might come some day, i am only now going to a T300RS and a wheelstand :)
Hey Barry, great video - very instructive. I'm on the verge of buying this cockpit but have a couple questions I was hoping you could help me with. 1) I want to install the down piece of extrusion where the shifter mounts in order to have a more stable platform. Exactly what do I need to buy in order to do this? Does Sim Lab have the exact piece I'm looking for on their website? 2) how would one mount the fanatec shifter 1.5 onto this rig? I noticed that the Sim Lab website has a "universal Fanatec shifter mount." Would I need to buy this? 3) I'm thinking about just buying a seat from Sim Lab itself. Does this rig and/or the seat come with the mounting hardware needed to mount the seat? Such as brackets, bolts, etc? Thanks again for the great video. I'm looking forward to entering the world of 80/20 aluminum extrusions 😊
1) One piece of 40x40 series profile at your required length. Four corner brackets with supporting fasteners. 2) You could use profile to make a mount, easier to buy the Sim-Lab one. 3) You will have to contact Sim-Lab for that information.
Regarding to the leverage of this very long wheel/motor: Wouldn't it be possible to move the crossbar far more to the driver, then assemble the mounting plate on the opposite side of the crossbar so that the center point of the wheel (somewhere where the axis leaves the motor) is positioned more directly over the crossbar? Perhaps you have to drill new holes in the mounting plate because you have to mount the wheel 180 degrees rotated so that it points to the driver.
There's always a way to mod a profile cockpit to better suit your individual needs. That's what is so great about them. Not sure if what you want to do will deliver the desired result. Wouldn't hurt to give it a go.
Is this rig going to be ok for taller individuals? I am 6"2 and unsure if the seat can be adjusted backwards enough. As well as if I can mount the pedal tray independently from the steering column to be able to move them seperately.
I really like the looks of this rig but it doesn't look like there is much room to extend the pedals out further. I have fairly long legs. I am not sure how tall Barry is, but it looks like he has the pedals as far back as they can go. My 4Play cockpit is 1500mm long fully extended, and from what I can tell the GT1 is only 1350mm long. Also, pedal distance seems to be tied to the steering column. It'd be nice if it were attached to a separate support.
Internal width of 480 mm (18.9 inches)? Do you feel that it's a tight squeeze? I noticed your right thigh on the shifter. Moving the shifter mount to the outside would help, but how does the "cage" width feel?
I have the NLR GTRACK rig with the NLR motion simulator V3. I’m getting ready to purchase the Sparco EVO L seat with the HD aluminum bracket to replace the reclining seat that came with the GTRACK. My question for you is I would like to purchase the Sparco seat slider that would enable me to move the seat back and forward. Do you feel this slider would work with the Sparco EVO and bracket and be able to mount it on the NLR motion simulator V3?
I would go with the P1 for DBox. I would rather have the heavier profiles for a full chassis mover system. And the 40/160 base profiles are deep enough to mount the controller boxes with no interference with the seat or pedals. Sim-Lab has just come out with their own DBox mounting hardware that I will be reviewing shortly.
Is it possible to mount the wheel plate on the front side of the upper frame to reduce the leverage? I think this would also allow a smaller strut to the shifter plate and help reduce the flex? edit: someone down below asked the same question! sorry...
I currently have a Playseat. It has served me well and gotten the job done for the past four years but I would like to upgrade it. Would you recommend a 80/20 rig like this over something that is more prebuilt. I did like the look of the Spenard cockpit you also reviewed
An 80/20 cockpit has more versatility and room for future growth. Also easier to get a proper driving position dialed in. But they are not as nice looking as proper tube chassis setup. What with it's curves and geometric lines. You can still mod those types of cockpits, just takes more work and custom fabrication. So you have to decide which is more important I think.
@Sim Racing Garage how does this rig compare to the Trak Racer TR80 as they are fairly similar? I'm leaning towards the Sim Lab as I am in Scotland, UK.
The major factor for why I picked the GT1 EVO is because TR80 shipping with rig + plenty of accessories + seat was 330€ to Finland compared to 130 for Simlab. Dunno if the margins are that large in Scotland, but it's worth considering.
I seem to have OCD with mine, trying to get it all square with a tape measure. I'm about there now, how far do you go with your rigs to get them square ?
It's not easy to get it perfectly square. I find that the bolts tend to pull it out of perfect square on the final torquing process. Seeing how the corner brackets are a true 90°, I just make sure both sides are flush with the profile and leave it at that. I haven't seen any ill effects from this result.
Hi Barry, nice review as always. I was just wondering why the holes in the wheelplate are not symmetrical. More specifically: the outer holes on the right are much closer to the side than the ones on the left and of the four holes closest to the center of the plate, the left two are oblong, while the right two are round. Any idea why this is?
I do not. But the Fanatec pattern and the Accuforce pattern are both centered on the plate. Did not try a logitech or Thrustmaster base with this plate. I will though. There are a lot of holes in this plate. Not sure why.
Barry, would it not be possible to put the steering wheel mounting plate on the rear? This may give you an extra 5 or 6 inches and also less leverage to affect your steering flex. I ask because I am wanting to get the GT1 and already have the AF V2.
Yes, after looking at the video, I think you could mount it on the front facing side of the cross profile piece. But you may need a shaft extension to get the wheel rim to clear that profile from the driver's perspective. This would also give you more leverage because of the length required. So, in the end, I don't know if it would flex any less. There are other ways to go about reinforcing the wheel mount on this cockpit I think. But it would require more profile and hardware to do it.
Would there be any kind of flex if you used the DD mount mounted directly onto the rig as opposed to onto the default wheel deck? Would this rig handle a direct drive wheel just as well as the P1?
The P1/P1-X front mount is a superior design to the one on this cockpit. As is the whole wheelbase assembly of the P1/P1-X. So, the EVO won't handle a DD as well.
Did you use the angle brackets that came with the SimLab GT1 EVO to mount the NLR V3? If you didn’t, could you please provide a link to the ones you used? Thanks Barry.
Those corner brackets were sourced from 80/20.com. They are a little bit larger than the ones from Europe. Not sure why, as they are meant for 40 series profile.
Hey Barry, hey community! I´m looking into buying a (80/20) rig and am wondering whether this one or the TR-1 is the better option for a setup including a DD1 wheelbase and CSL Elite LC pedals. Any recommendations/ thoughts on this? Budgetwise those two are pretty much what I can afford, so pls don´t recommend a P1-X or Rseat S1 ;) Thank you in advance! Andy
Seats can be a real hit or miss thing. Best to try some out before you buy if possible. Just too many variables in body type for me to recommend something.
Sorry about this wird question Barry, but what's your height? I'm trying to visually measure how to put on my D-Box when I get my GT1 Evo in two weeks, by looking at your video/still picture.. I'm looking in to having the single rear actuator on the inside for better pitch, that would mean I have to sit further ahead in the rig. Hence my weird question :)
Nice and simple profile rig. Well worth saving up the extra cash if anyone is contemplating buying something like an GT-Omega or higher on the price scale for a tubular frame. Can't beat the modularity of a alloy profile rig
@@RathOX You are able to do anything you like with aluminium profile. Find a website were you can purchase the extra profile/fixtures needed. Or you could simply put a large plate for the shifter+handbrake. As long as you're able to drill some holes will be good to go.
@@dinxsy8069 i decided to get the Simetek K2 as for one i wont be using a DD wheel just the clubsport v2.5. it will mainly be used for drifting and rally and can still have the nextlevel motion base and i can still attach buttkickers too it. Saved a little bit of money.
Very informative Barry, I was wondering if you could maybe show and explain your computer rig? I am an avid flight simmer and looking to get back into racing and would like to utilize my rig as well as my space for both swimming hobbies.
Barry, you (and Sim Lab) say this wheel deck is compatible with Logitech -- I have a G29 at the moment, but it doesn't seem mountable with the desk clamps on the bottom of the wheel... not having luck getting rid of the those clamps... any suggestions?
@@simracinggarage3026 Thanks Barry, for the reply.. I'm sitting a tad lower on the rig than with a racing seat (I put a regular car seat in it from my ZO6 - race seat is in the car! LOL).. anyway, I figured it out - I had to raise the wheel bar and tilt it down a bit so my knees would not hit the clamps ... having other issues now, as the Logitech all of a sudden has power issues, seems like a short or something .. it's been a bit trying getting this rig going, now finally tonight was ready to rock and now this!
Does anyone have any idea what the weight capacity is on the GT1 Evo? Looking to upgrade from a wheel stand but I am 6’ 8” and heavy as well. Don’t want to order a cockpit only to find out it doesn’t work for me. Thanks!
@@simracinggarage3026 Thanks, but I meant why really? Doesn't matter much, but I just can't work out why you needed spacers between the chassis and motion unit (especially as you were trying to keep the seat height as low as possible) - I don't doubt for a second there is a good reason, because it's well, you - but I'd like to know the reason so I can perhaps learn from it for my own rig.
@@AndyGarton To keep the corner brackets from scratching up the black profiles while I did final adjustments to the location of the unit. It's quite heavy and the brackets can gouge the profile. Just a safety measure really.
I'm 5'8" 150lb. However, I know of a least one person who is 6'1" that is comfortable in this rig. If you are a member of iRacing, check this link out: members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/3617458.page#11210748
@@simracinggarage3026 I have 499E. Maybe it is dependant on location. Anyway, it does not matter it is still the one I will get. Thanks for the review.
@@simracinggarage3026 I Purchased in Black for 399 Euro`s on Black Friday, thanks USA. Should have changed name on postal to address to Barry Rowland UK, might have been delivered now. Great job Barry
i hate this position, I like to be very high, you have the head as high as the wheel, awfull...I prefer to have the pedals on the bottom, this it's called "GT" but it's not a GT position at all.
Great job on the video as always Barry
This will be my next base rig. Thank you for the wonderful detailed reviews Berry. :)
Thanks Berry it helped me a lot. I baught ths rig and before the packages were delivered i watched both of youre videos. They gave me a lot of knowledge that I needed to build the rig. I lije watching youre videos.👍
This is the best starter sim rig hands down bar none! Bought it, loves it and highly recommend it!!!! Excellent review as always!!
does it come with the seat? i just can't believe the price if it does!
@@shooty.deluxe no seat.
I watched a few Videos from you and i wish my teachers back in Shool were like you! =) Greetings from Germany!
Have one on the way, price dropped a bit on the black version. $619 total shipped to the USA, that's adding the cup holder, H-shifter and handbrake mounts. Will look awesome with the black Sim Lab triple monitor mount I got last year. Great review as always.
Just found this cockpit for around 260. Cant wait
Im really glad that i found your channel! Really good and indepth reviews, and offcourse very informative. Ive been looking for a good solid entry level rig, and i think i just found the one im gonna buy! Thanks for the good job!
Another great review Barry !! Really looking forward to some more your reviews are the best on youtube!
I always wonder where you end up storying all the different things you review haha.
i know this is 2 years later, but i live near the guy and see some of the rigs pop up on craigslist occasionally.
Im here for the intro :O that sound holy!
Good review as always, good help for my future cockpit.
Barry, if you mount the front bolts of the pedaldeck to the bottom profile (not the upright that connects your wheel) you can then adjust the wheel back and forth without impacting the pedaldeck. I did this with mine.
Yes, a very flexible cockpit. When the pedal deck is attached to the wheelbase uprights it does add some lateral stiffness to that section.
I cannot wait to be able to order my Sim Lab GT1-EVO sim rig. All this out of stock is getting old, but I completely understand they are overloaded and working very hard.
I ordered one friday and got it yesterday from a company in Holland :D
Funny story I have on the SimLab wheel deck supporting the AF v2. It actually didn't when it was first listed. But the saga is quite comical looking back, first, UPS actually lost my P1. They went on vacation after sending out like 80 orders, where mine was the only one lost lol. They couldn't do anything because, vacation. After the reship, I find the wheel deck doesn't support the AF v2, so I start talking to them about that. They say they can drill some holes, and they'll ship it. Fast forward two weeks, I get the wheel deck, it's the same one again LOL. The holes don't match, so now at this point, I'm best friends with Darko, and he eventually got the wheel deck redesigned and into my hands. SimLabs has some of the best support I've ever seen, but this was the longest retail saga I've ever had. Cheers to those guys.
I have a v2 as well, is the wheelbase solid on the rig? In the review it looked like it had some play
3 years later hahaha. But i will buy this. If i see there is 0 flex on the pedals... even rigs of 1000 dollars got flex there so thnx for your nice review
@ 23:19 that move on the inside made me think of Kobayashi the Kamikaze! Nice video as always and very detailed. Thanks A Lot!
That's kinda racist lol
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt so, only JDM drivers dive bomb?
Ok got it. Thanks.
That looked like a comfy Ass seat 💺 omg
That V3 Motion is giving me a chub!
Ahhh a rare hair transition video. I feel like I only see videos with your hair short or long. Never this length lol maybe it’s just me :)
Great video. Many thanks!
Barry could sell snow to the eskimos !
and somehow still make it an in-depth 55 min review. Love it!
Ebenezer Valvi totally agree dude but I want to buy every fucking thing he makes a video about 😂
I have the old GT1 and I did put a vertical brace at the end of the shifter arm. I had some spare profile and connectors and just cut it to length. Much better.
100 000 ème abonné chez vous .... heureux d`avoir découvert cette chaîne et beau boulot, sur cette vidéo .
Want to order one, but no one at sim lab will get back to me.
Great video by the way!
You make great videos and love the detail you put into them. Motion platforms for me just don't work, I've tried some and for me doesn't bring the feeling of forces, it's just jerking you around. I've done competitive real racing in formula cars as a reference. Motion platforms like this you are testing, that just move the seat are the worst, because you keep moving around but the wheel is on the same position, so you arms are like stretching, braking also is very bad, you feel like you are gonna hit the wheel or something with your chest.
This is just my honest opinion, I think it's very hard to replicate the violence of racing with the motion platforms, I really think however that shakers really do work and bring some immersion.
Of course it's stretching. The wheel doesn't move, the seat does.
falchulk yes but it will move, it’s not natural to me, when I do real racing I’m not moving away or to the side of the wheel, we use seats fitted to us so we are flush
@falchulk in other words, severely limiting the motion range. When spending that cash, it would make more sense to get a tad stronger actuators and move the whole thing
not saying it cant be fun or immersive, especially in contrast to no motion, but you said it yourself, the right tune means very limited range
Ey! I see you are an expert. I'd like to ask you some things.
As a little fan of this world simracing is, I got a G29 a year ago now and I've had much fun with it.
Of course that's my budget's limit as a student, but at the future when I start working I'm sure one of my first purchases will be a Simracing set up: wheel, cockpit and monitor. I hope that's in a year or two.
However I find the wheel bases a bit confusing since the price point of 500€. Many little offers and I'm not sure how much worth it are them for someone that would not use it more than probably 15-20h a week. I mean, we need to do other things for sure and have social life too haha
So, what would be the scale of the expensive wheel in quality terms? What's the top reference in the consumer level (not professional)?
It would my definitive set up. That one you say - I don't need to improve it as there's nothing better really worth it, at least for a while until tech improves!
Thanks in advance and sorry for the English - I'm from Spain.
Thank you for the review!
The shifter must be mounted on the top of the bar not the side, I don't know if this is possible with the one you have used in the test.
Who are the 16 people that disliked this video? lol
Idiots this review totally saved me when I was building this thing as the directions were essentially non existent. Rig is awesome for the money highly recommend it. Now time for me to ditch thr xbox series x , get me a pc and a motion rig thinking of getting thus very motion platform
You could get another upright that holds the wheel and connect it at an angle from the upright past the gear mount to the bottom brace it would create a lot of strength rather than just 1 upright
Great video as always ! Will you review the GT2 cockpit ? PLEASE DO IT !!!
So, are we having a review on the Sim Lab Team Redline TR1 Chassis soon? 🙂
That's what i'm hoping, i can't decide between the two
Rapid_GT 99 I love my SimLab GT1 EVO. I have a DD2 mounted with the SimLab Podium mounts. It’s actually fantastic. I uploaded a couple of videos showing it off. Check it out if your still on the fence.
@@OhItsThat yes i think it's the GT1 Evo i'm going for with the DD in mind as the TR1 as i recall isn't compatible with those mounts and i intend getting the Podium F1 (DD1 Equiv), i do quite like Fanatcs podium mounts too though, which seat did you choose off SimLabs ?
i'll be sure to check out your vids, cheers.
Rapid_GT 99 I use a Sparco R100. I don’t think SimLabs ships seats to my country. The GT1 EVO is perfect. I think having 90 degree vertical wheel deck uprights is better then angled ones like the Team Redline chassis uses. Easier to attach more pieces of profile to for shifters and what not.
cool cockpit, nice videos, wish i had the space for it, it seems like a really good product for the price :), well it might come some day, i am only now going to a T300RS and a wheelstand :)
Hey Barry, great video - very instructive. I'm on the verge of buying this cockpit but have a couple questions I was hoping you could help me with.
1) I want to install the down piece of extrusion where the shifter mounts in order to have a more stable platform. Exactly what do I need to buy in order to do this? Does Sim Lab have the exact piece I'm looking for on their website?
2) how would one mount the fanatec shifter 1.5 onto this rig? I noticed that the Sim Lab website has a "universal Fanatec shifter mount." Would I need to buy this?
3) I'm thinking about just buying a seat from Sim Lab itself. Does this rig and/or the seat come with the mounting hardware needed to mount the seat? Such as brackets, bolts, etc?
Thanks again for the great video. I'm looking forward to entering the world of 80/20 aluminum extrusions 😊
1) One piece of 40x40 series profile at your required length. Four corner brackets with supporting fasteners. 2) You could use profile to make a mount, easier to buy the Sim-Lab one. 3) You will have to contact Sim-Lab for that information.
@@simracinggarage3026Hey Barry do you have any idea if this motion platform will fit the SimLabs GT1 pro ?
I wish we had a detailed video on a 8020 DIY rig for us in North America who don't want to pay shipping from Europe.
excellent video and build!. can you tell me what the difference between 10 and 15 series is?
Hi, great videos. Can you make a comparison video of osw and fanatec dd please if you can
Regarding to the leverage of this very long wheel/motor: Wouldn't it be possible to move the crossbar far more to the driver, then assemble the mounting plate on the opposite side of the crossbar so that the center point of the wheel (somewhere where the axis leaves the motor) is positioned more directly over the crossbar? Perhaps you have to drill new holes in the mounting plate because you have to mount the wheel 180 degrees rotated so that it points to the driver.
There's always a way to mod a profile cockpit to better suit your individual needs. That's what is so great about them. Not sure if what you want to do will deliver the desired result. Wouldn't hurt to give it a go.
Is this rig going to be ok for taller individuals? I am 6"2 and unsure if the seat can be adjusted backwards enough. As well as if I can mount the pedal tray independently from the steering column to be able to move them seperately.
What did you get?
its almost identical to my jcl rig minus the support for the shifter, but i didnt get a cool pedal plate and paid 100 euro more.
I would really like to have this similar setup as an option
Hey Barry quick questions I know this is not part of the review but what monitors are you running if you can share that would be nice thank you
I really like the looks of this rig but it doesn't look like there is much room to extend the pedals out further. I have fairly long legs. I am not sure how tall Barry is, but it looks like he has the pedals as far back as they can go. My 4Play cockpit is 1500mm long fully extended, and from what I can tell the GT1 is only 1350mm long. Also, pedal distance seems to be tied to the steering column. It'd be nice if it were attached to a separate support.
i have one and you can easy push the pedal tray back and then you could drill new holes in the pedal deck to push back further which would help
Where did you get the brackets to mount the Motion platform?
Thanks for this very detailed informative review, will you be doing a review of the Sim Lab TR1 ?
I bought the Sim-Lab GT1 EVO and I'm very happy. Berry what size are your monitors they look bigger than 27"?
They are 27". Maybe the angle I shot the video at makes them look different.
Keep up the good work. @@simracinggarage3026
What was the reason for the spacers under the brackets when mounting the NLR v3?
Internal width of 480 mm (18.9 inches)? Do you feel that it's a tight squeeze? I noticed your right thigh on the shifter. Moving the shifter mount to the outside would help, but how does the "cage" width feel?
I have the NLR GTRACK rig with the NLR motion simulator V3. I’m getting ready to purchase the Sparco EVO L seat with the HD aluminum bracket to replace the reclining seat that came with the GTRACK. My question for you is I would like to purchase the Sparco seat slider that would enable me to move the seat back and forward. Do you feel this slider would work with the Sparco EVO and bracket and be able to mount it on the NLR motion simulator V3?
HE sprint pedals vs older pro model review please?
Does anyone here have any experience how this Rig is for bigger folks like me?
I am 6"4 (196cm) / 100kg.
So weird to see the seat move but not the rest of the cockpit.
Is the wheeldeck stable enough to mount an SC2 pro? And does the hole pattern on the plate support the adjustable motor mount for the Simucube motors?
Barry, would the DBox set up work with this frame or would the P1 be the better option if u think that may be in the future plan?
I would go with the P1 for DBox. I would rather have the heavier profiles for a full chassis mover system. And the 40/160 base profiles are deep enough to mount the controller boxes with no interference with the seat or pedals. Sim-Lab has just come out with their own DBox mounting hardware that I will be reviewing shortly.
You need to reinforce with crossmembers, but 40x80 (vs 40x160 of P1) is enough for D-Box like systems like the DIY SFX 100.
Is it possible to mount the wheel plate on the front side of the upper frame to reduce the leverage? I think this would also allow a smaller strut to the shifter plate and help reduce the flex?
edit: someone down below asked the same question! sorry...
I currently have a Playseat. It has served me well and gotten the job done for the past four years but I would like to upgrade it. Would you recommend a 80/20 rig like this over something that is more prebuilt. I did like the look of the Spenard cockpit you also reviewed
An 80/20 cockpit has more versatility and room for future growth. Also easier to get a proper driving position dialed in. But they are not as nice looking as proper tube chassis setup. What with it's curves and geometric lines. You can still mod those types of cockpits, just takes more work and custom fabrication. So you have to decide which is more important I think.
@Sim Racing Garage how does this rig compare to the Trak Racer TR80 as they are fairly similar? I'm leaning towards the Sim Lab as I am in Scotland, UK.
The major factor for why I picked the GT1 EVO is because TR80 shipping with rig + plenty of accessories + seat was 330€ to Finland compared to 130 for Simlab. Dunno if the margins are that large in Scotland, but it's worth considering.
Can you use this cockpit while having the monitor on a Ikea desk? My desk is at 29"in height (74cm) as I am 5'11
I seem to have OCD with mine, trying to get it all square with a tape measure. I'm about there now, how far do you go with your rigs to get them square ?
It's not easy to get it perfectly square. I find that the bolts tend to pull it out of perfect square on the final torquing process. Seeing how the corner brackets are a true 90°, I just make sure both sides are flush with the profile and leave it at that. I haven't seen any ill effects from this result.
Do you think the seat for my play seat will fit on it ?
Hi Barry, nice review as always. I was just wondering why the holes in the wheelplate are not symmetrical. More specifically: the outer holes on the right are much closer to the side than the ones on the left and of the four holes closest to the center of the plate, the left two are oblong, while the right two are round. Any idea why this is?
I do not. But the Fanatec pattern and the Accuforce pattern are both centered on the plate. Did not try a logitech or Thrustmaster base with this plate. I will though. There are a lot of holes in this plate. Not sure why.
It's ok for a 6.1 person ?? I'm worried about the length
Barry, would it not be possible to put the steering wheel mounting plate on the rear? This may give you an extra 5 or 6 inches and also less leverage to affect your steering flex.
I ask because I am wanting to get the GT1 and already have the AF V2.
Yes, after looking at the video, I think you could mount it on the front facing side of the cross profile piece. But you may need a shaft extension to get the wheel rim to clear that profile from the driver's perspective. This would also give you more leverage because of the length required. So, in the end, I don't know if it would flex any less. There are other ways to go about reinforcing the wheel mount on this cockpit I think. But it would require more profile and hardware to do it.
Would there be any kind of flex if you used the DD mount mounted directly onto the rig as opposed to onto the default wheel deck? Would this rig handle a direct drive wheel just as well as the P1?
The P1/P1-X front mount is a superior design to the one on this cockpit. As is the whole wheelbase assembly of the P1/P1-X. So, the EVO won't handle a DD as well.
I wonder how much shipping costs to the U.S.
$150 USD
Did you use the angle brackets that came with the SimLab GT1 EVO to mount the NLR V3? If you didn’t, could you please provide a link to the ones you used? Thanks Barry.
Those corner brackets were sourced from 80/20.com. They are a little bit larger than the ones from Europe. Not sure why, as they are meant for 40 series profile.
Sim Racing Garage Yeah the standard Sim Lab brackets are to small. I had to use shims on both sides. Wasn’t expecting that.
Hey Barry, hey community! I´m looking into buying a (80/20) rig and am wondering whether this one or the TR-1 is the better option for a setup including a DD1 wheelbase and CSL Elite LC pedals. Any recommendations/ thoughts on this? Budgetwise those two are pretty much what I can afford, so pls don´t recommend a P1-X or Rseat S1 ;)
Thank you in advance!
Andy
Great video! Would you happen to know where to purchase seats for this rig?
You can get any seat you want. It is easy to get one mounted on this rig, due to the movable seat mounting rails.
I never got seat only motion. Still don’t. That motion rig would be great for motorbike sims though.
Cheaper. Less power required. Compatible with a lot of existing cockpits.
Doesn't seem to be made for motion platform... 22:56 Look at the shifter and his knee.
Thanks for the video. Was just about to buy one. Can you also suggest an entry level seats?
Seats can be a real hit or miss thing. Best to try some out before you buy if possible. Just too many variables in body type for me to recommend something.
Sim Racing Garage thanks, I will try some local stores
how would someone whos 6'4" fit in this thing? looking for one me and my brother can both use, hes a big boy.
Is this a motion rig seat ? Seems to be moving
Sorry about this wird question Barry, but what's your height? I'm trying to visually measure how to put on my D-Box when I get my GT1 Evo in two weeks, by looking at your video/still picture.. I'm looking in to having the single rear actuator on the inside for better pitch, that would mean I have to sit further ahead in the rig. Hence my weird question :)
5'8"
Where did you get your sparco seat from?
Some online race shop. Over two years ago, so don't recall exactly. Just looked around for the best price I could find at the time.
Isn't it weird, that only the seat moves?
Nice and simple profile rig. Well worth saving up the extra cash if anyone is contemplating buying something like an GT-Omega or higher on the price scale for a tubular frame. Can't beat the modularity of a alloy profile rig
am i able to add a handbrake next to the shifter?
@@RathOX You are able to do anything you like with aluminium profile. Find a website were you can purchase the extra profile/fixtures needed. Or you could simply put a large plate for the shifter+handbrake. As long as you're able to drill some holes will be good to go.
@@dinxsy8069 i decided to get the Simetek K2 as for one i wont be using a DD wheel just the clubsport v2.5. it will mainly be used for drifting and rally and can still have the nextlevel motion base and i can still attach buttkickers too it. Saved a little bit of money.
@@RathOX I see, the K2 is a sound rig, good investment. It can handle a DD unit as well with minimal flex/movement.
@@dinxsy8069 great, what i like to hear, what also tipped me to buy it was muscle standing and jumping on it 😂.
Very informative Barry, I was wondering if you could maybe show and explain your computer rig? I am an avid flight simmer and looking to get back into racing and would like to utilize my rig as well as my space for both swimming hobbies.
What specific model of seat is this featured in the video? I'm having a hard time matching with option through Sparco.
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@@simracinggarage3026 thank you. :)
I'm 6'2, dont'know if this is better or the Simetik K2 at my height
what height would you say you'll have to be to use this rig?
Don't want the motion stuff but this comes without it anyways correct?
Chad Denton 😂😂😂 no the “motion stuff” comes free with the cock pit 😂😂😂
Barry, you (and Sim Lab) say this wheel deck is compatible with Logitech -- I have a G29 at the moment, but it doesn't seem mountable with the desk clamps on the bottom of the wheel... not having luck getting rid of the those clamps... any suggestions?
My G29 mounts fine using it's clamps. Not sure why you would be having issues unless something in the clamp mechanism is faulty.
@@simracinggarage3026 Thanks Barry, for the reply.. I'm sitting a tad lower on the rig than with a racing seat (I put a regular car seat in it from my ZO6 - race seat is in the car! LOL).. anyway, I figured it out - I had to raise the wheel bar and tilt it down a bit so my knees would not hit the clamps ... having other issues now, as the Logitech all of a sudden has power issues, seems like a short or something .. it's been a bit trying getting this rig going, now finally tonight was ready to rock and now this!
Anyone have a link to the 4 corner brackets used to mount the V3 to sIm labs GT1 here? UK ?
I noticed sim labs uses lite profile for this gt1, is it stable enough enough? Is it worth going with solid extrusion over lite?
Might be overkill for a sim rig. The P1 and now P1-X use the same profile. Albiet in larger pieces.
Hello. I would like to know what is your monitor stand at 23 min. I can't find it on sim-lab.
isn´t it kind of weird to only have the seat moving..?!
You would think so from watching video of it. But your body adapts to it rather easily I think.
What’s the price point on this rig ?? 😍
Is there a promo code for this?
Do you guys do shipping too the US? 🇺🇸
Yes they do.
Sim Racing Garage Thanks!
Does anyone have any idea what the weight capacity is on the GT1 Evo? Looking to upgrade from a wheel stand but I am 6’ 8” and heavy as well. Don’t want to order a cockpit only to find out it doesn’t work for me. Thanks!
The size would be the only worry, unless you're 400 lbs this thing is sturdy as hell!
But at 6'8 the length of the rig might be worrysome.
Why did you use the spacers please Barry?
Which spacers?
The squareish U shaped ones between the chassis and motion unit.
Here: www.ebay.com/itm/CRL-KRS16-1-16-x-3-1-2-Shimstack-Shims-Pack-of-50-Pcs/132433621460?hash=item1ed5a8b1d4:g:K5sAAOSwn25aMXF7:rk:2:pf:1&frcectupt=true
@@simracinggarage3026 Thanks, but I meant why really? Doesn't matter much, but I just can't work out why you needed spacers between the chassis and motion unit (especially as you were trying to keep the seat height as low as possible) - I don't doubt for a second there is a good reason, because it's well, you - but I'd like to know the reason so I can perhaps learn from it for my own rig.
@@AndyGarton To keep the corner brackets from scratching up the black profiles while I did final adjustments to the location of the unit. It's quite heavy and the brackets can gouge the profile. Just a safety measure really.
What type of neck pillow are you using there?
It's a memory foam unit found on amazon: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A7ZV0R0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
How tall are you? It looks like it could be a problem for drivers close to 2meters..?
I'm 5'8" 150lb. However, I know of a least one person who is 6'1" that is comfortable in this rig. If you are a member of iRacing, check this link out: members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/3617458.page#11210748
What seat is that?
Where do you get your rubber mats from? Cheers.
ULINE.
@@simracinggarage3026 Thankyou, I want to put something under my H3. Anything you use is good enough for me!
Your the dad i never had or the dad i should of had
1 jour après votre vidéo, en "Black anodised" , le cockpit est déjà passé à €499.00 !! je n'ose pas regarder le prix dans 15 jours...!
sim-lab.eu/product/gt1-evo/
@@simracinggarage3026 Oui, c'est bien ce que je disais, € 499,00...!!
In the video the black on is 412 Euro where I have 499 Euro...
Just checked. Still says 412: sim-lab.eu/product/gt1-evo/
@@simracinggarage3026 412 +VAT= 499 Euro
@@simracinggarage3026 I have 499E. Maybe it is dependant on location. Anyway, it does not matter it is still the one I will get. Thanks for the review.
Ah! Right.
@@simracinggarage3026 I Purchased in Black for 399 Euro`s on Black Friday, thanks USA. Should have changed name on postal to address to Barry Rowland UK, might have been delivered now. Great job Barry
i hate this position, I like to be very high, you have the head as high as the wheel, awfull...I prefer to have the pedals on the bottom, this it's called "GT" but it's not a GT position at all.
I’m 6’4 and have pretty long legs, what do you think would be a good cockpit fit for me?
Love your videos! Bought a dd2 thanks to your review!
DId you get this cockpit? I'm 6'4 too and wold like to know how is it for you ? Thanks
I ended up buying the next level gt cockpit for around 600ish.
I fit fine. Not amazingly. But. It’s fine.