These episodes are pure gold! A few things come across: The waste of resources i.e. almost new cars, due to high repair costs is crazy! How can it be ecologically viable to produce a product that is so difficult to get back on the road after relatively minor damage/issues? The presentation/speaking style of this chap is excellent, calm, knowledgeable, easy to listen too! I feel there are going to be places like this evolving all over the planet as EVs become more mainstream. Overall a great series, well made and typical of the high-end RUclips content that is making TV viewing irrelevant.
That story about the owner asking his drunk neighbor to break into his Model S had me rolling. What a hoot of a story and to think if he had only started with the passenger door window to begin with, lol.
Thank you for saving my beautiful Model S, (D0M1N0). It couldn't be in better hands. Honestly this brought tears to my eyes. Someday I will make more vids. Thanks again!
I don't understand why there hasn't been a redesign of forklifts to be more gentle on cars. The auction houses treat nearly new luxury cars the same way they treat a 20 year old kia, like crap.
Bricked means that the computer is locked up, non functional, or just dead. This is more of a technical glitch issue. Any computer can brick...cell phones, tablets, PC. Sometimes you can bring it back to life, other times you can not.
The MCU can be bricked and/or the battery. Sometimes, allowing the battery to go to 0% SOC for extended period of time will brick the battery. Can't be brought back. Bricking means it has the same value and utility as a literal " brick." That being nothing.
Dear Gruber Motor Company, my 2015 Model S is almost 4 years old. I too look forward to buying your failed eMMc fix when mine dies (these can fail anytime after the 4 year warranty expires by all accounts). As you would know Tesla do not repair the computer this log message recording chip resides in or even sell the daughter board the chip is mounted on, instead I'll be up for a whole new computer and 19" touch screen which won't be cheap assuming they are even available at that point. Just replacing the chip is not too hard but I assume some data has to be written to that IC before it will work in the car and that is way more than I'd like to attempt (I have no clue what data needs to be preserved on the replacement chip nor do I relish having to build a chip programmer for what hopefully would be just a single use). More power to you sir.
@@fatboy19831 I had assumed current vehicles would not have this problem waiting to bite them 4+ years down the track. If Tesla has not addressed this problem yet that is pretty bad. Every body makes a few mistakes when designing something as complex as a motor vehicle (the awful design of the original Model S door handle mechanism and the electo-etching of the traction motor balls within the rotor shaft ball bearings (something which I recently learned was a solved problem thirty years ago in the variable speed motor controller world (think elevator/lift motors)) spring to mind. Tesla must be fully aware of the death of these log message storing chips, hard to believe this problem is still there. If nothing else Tesla would be opening themselves up to a class action law suite from a million Model 3 etc owners around 2025 if it is ignored and the fix could be as trivial as just not recording every log message (linux generates of lot of those).
@@dogphlap6749 From the outside looking in it seems like a very straight forward solution. Hopefully, the 3 cost less than $2200 to repair. I would like to believe that the Y and every car forward would have a solution. If not this may just be a payday for Tesla. It won't happen under warranty for the most part. It is a pure profit repair. By the time this happens to me there should be a far cheaper aftermarket solution.
Dogphlap I suspect there will be a class action when all these Model 3s start failing. Tesla will lose knowing full well that it could have been prevented and yet did nothing about it. At any rate, third party shops will replace them for you and are working on a better solution.
These stories are no different than ICE cars. Every car has a story. Barn finds, bricked cars, junked, wrecked. They all have a tale to tell. Oh, remind me not to buy a Tesla in Louisiana or from Louisiana. Rich Rebuilds would have a field day with some of those cars.
Improved eMMC MCU sounds interesting. My S is 6 years old, still on the original MCU. Just waiting for the eMMC to fail. Tesla wants $2,300 for a new (refurb) MCU.
@@jollygreen4662 Back when they only had new ones they charged $4K. I'm glad they refurb them now. All that's wrong with them is a single chip that wears out (they write too much to a eMMC/flash memory).
@@jollygreen4662 SSD would be perfect but I don't know if you can make it interface with the rest of the MCU. There's some discussion on the Tesla forums where they use a much larger eMMC. That should spread the writes out so each block is written to less.
@@markusstrobl1067 are there any emmc extension wire to lead into the cabin so u can swap the memory card without digging into the mcu everytime? Maybe bad idea?
They do that because Tesla would otherwise replace the entire board (or the MCU). And that's way too costly. Ideally, Tesla shoul'dve come up with a way to lower the amount of logs being written to the memory chips. If they were to do that the chips would last way longer.
How on Earth can someone (in 2019) bid and buy a bricked electric car for 41.000 $ ?? Thinking he could bring it back home by riding it? That's hilarious :D
given the "hobby" of idiots here to throw bricks and concrete blocks off of overpasses on cars, sometimes causing horrific accidents as they smash through windscreens, killing or seriously injuring drivers, that'd be the first thing in my mind hearing the term "bricked". Literally hit by a brick, broken window, maybe some interior damage.
@@jwenting well, uhm, you know its common to say that any kind of thing (even a car) gets bricked when it's somehow faulty to a point its no more usable other than as a paperweight (literally, a brick).
being kind to the environment and not buying gas sounds like a great way to save $$$....until you have to change a lightbulb, or other minor repairs on a Tesla. Then you will be kicking yourself. Still think that converting your compact ICE vehicle to electric has advantages, if you can do it yourself. No computers to lock you out, straightforward parts replacement....the ability Tesla has to shut off your vehicle remotely is unnerving. I want to be in control of my cars destiny.
Kevin Nyandika you are absolutely right, over complicated, built to cost you $$$. An engineer once told me, If you want it to work, keep it simple. Always stuck....less things to go wrong
Kevin Nyandika I don't believe cars are built to fail. Every car has a single or multiple failure point, but it's often not planned. Sometimes it's totally unanticipated or not, depending on manufacturer. As a rule, Toyota /Lexus probably has the fewest failure points of any.
Very few cars can go through a few inches of water. Toyota is the worst. Many many Toyota’s are bottom feeders. Especially 2000 to 2009 cars. You should not drive any car through more than 3 inches of water ( at speed). A lot of Cuvs don’t do much better. It is a car not a boat.
If you mean the white model S.. the few inches of water wasn't the issue...The guy drove into a culvert that he couldn't see.. that was deep and full of water. He says it in the story.. About Tesla's in general. Well.. after hurricanes auction houses and insurance whses are usually jam packed with >all< sorts of cars. Doubt any car can survive a flooding above the wheels. Ice or non-ice. Rivian makes better EVs idk.. we'll have to wait till next year to know that
I could never imagine that such a great car was designed as an appliance. It basically can't be repaired if it ever gets near water. Expensive parts should be water proof, not just cables and computers lying around
@@Son37Lumiere Most fail with water damage but almost none fail beyond repair. If your regular ICE cars get's flooded the stealership might not be able to repair it (at insurance acceptable cost) , but any other good shop can do it especially because of the aftermarket parts. If you can't get spare parts, the manufacturer should make one's car more splash proof than an iPhone.
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These episodes are pure gold! A few things come across:
The waste of resources i.e. almost new cars, due to high repair costs is crazy! How can it be ecologically viable to produce a product that is so difficult to get back on the road after relatively minor damage/issues?
The presentation/speaking style of this chap is excellent, calm, knowledgeable, easy to listen too!
I feel there are going to be places like this evolving all over the planet as EVs become more mainstream.
Overall a great series, well made and typical of the high-end RUclips content that is making TV viewing irrelevant.
It show you that there is always small letters on everything
That story about the owner asking his drunk neighbor to break into his Model S had me rolling. What a hoot of a story and to think if he had only started with the passenger door window to begin with, lol.
I would never buy one of these cars but is truly a pleasure listing to a man who really knows his business .
A car that you cant open if it runs out of battery, a marvel of human achievment
A very cool narration of stories!!
Thank you for saving my beautiful Model S, (D0M1N0). It couldn't be in better hands. Honestly this brought tears to my eyes. Someday I will make more vids. Thanks again!
fantatastic good stories presented in a great way, love it!
Very interesting!!! Thanks for sharing!
Learning a lot . Thank You Vry Much
Thank you for this video. I'm doing the same on a much smaller scale in New Zealand :)
You got my interest, I enjoyed the video
What’s going on with that black one with the yellow stripe? I like that car! Is it for sale?
Been waiting on this one!
I don't understand why there hasn't been a redesign of forklifts to be more gentle on cars. The auction houses treat nearly new luxury cars the same way they treat a 20 year old kia, like crap.
because as far as the auction house is concerned they're wrecks, and going to be stripped for spares and then crushed so why be gentle on them?
Great video
Can't stop cryin'.
So you can't get out of a model s if the battery has shut down?
drgonzo1963 scary eh?
@@Newzchspy yeah especially if the battery packs starts burning
You can't get out from back seat front seats will work
What does bricked mean.In UK Im thinking jacked up,wheels stloen and left on bricks.?
Bricked means that the computer is locked up, non functional, or just dead. This is more of a technical glitch issue. Any computer can brick...cell phones, tablets, PC. Sometimes you can bring it back to life, other times you can not.
@@ksamos Thankyou
The MCU can be bricked and/or the battery. Sometimes, allowing the battery to go to 0% SOC for extended period of time will brick the battery. Can't be brought back. Bricking means it has the same value and utility as a literal " brick." That being nothing.
Dear Gruber Motor Company, my 2015 Model S is almost 4 years old. I too look forward to buying your failed eMMc fix when mine dies (these can fail anytime after the 4 year warranty expires by all accounts). As you would know Tesla do not repair the computer this log message recording chip resides in or even sell the daughter board the chip is mounted on, instead I'll be up for a whole new computer and 19" touch screen which won't be cheap assuming they are even available at that point. Just replacing the chip is not too hard but I assume some data has to be written to that IC before it will work in the car and that is way more than I'd like to attempt (I have no clue what data needs to be preserved on the replacement chip nor do I relish having to build a chip programmer for what hopefully would be just a single use). More power to you sir.
This is a major problem for all Tesla’s to date. Including the 3. I hope this problem is resolved in the Y.
@@fatboy19831 I had assumed current vehicles would not have this problem waiting to bite them 4+ years down the track. If Tesla has not addressed this problem yet that is pretty bad. Every body makes a few mistakes when designing something as complex as a motor vehicle (the awful design of the original Model S door handle mechanism and the electo-etching of the traction motor balls within the rotor shaft ball bearings (something which I recently learned was a solved problem thirty years ago in the variable speed motor controller world (think elevator/lift motors)) spring to mind. Tesla must be fully aware of the death of these log message storing chips, hard to believe this problem is still there. If nothing else Tesla would be opening themselves up to a class action law suite from a million Model 3 etc owners around 2025 if it is ignored and the fix could be as trivial as just not recording every log message (linux generates of lot of those).
@@dogphlap6749 From the outside looking in it seems like a very straight forward solution. Hopefully, the 3 cost less than $2200 to repair. I would like to believe that the Y and every car forward would have a solution. If not this may just be a payday for Tesla. It won't happen under warranty for the most part. It is a pure profit repair. By the time this happens to me there should be a far cheaper aftermarket solution.
Dogphlap
I suspect there will be a class action when all these Model 3s start failing. Tesla will lose knowing full well that it could have been prevented and yet did nothing about it. At any rate, third party shops will replace them for you and are working on a better solution.
These stories are no different than ICE cars. Every car has a story. Barn finds, bricked cars, junked, wrecked. They all have a tale to tell.
Oh, remind me not to buy a Tesla in Louisiana or from Louisiana.
Rich Rebuilds would have a field day with some of those cars.
2017, hurricane Harvey was not kind to Houston either.. But then it floods there twice a yr from mostly robust spring rain.
What is BMS problem ?
Improved eMMC MCU sounds interesting. My S is 6 years old, still on the original MCU. Just waiting for the eMMC to fail. Tesla wants $2,300 for a new (refurb) MCU.
Refurbished mcu? Why cant they sell a new one?
@@jollygreen4662 Back when they only had new ones they charged $4K. I'm glad they refurb them now. All that's wrong with them is a single chip that wears out (they write too much to a eMMC/flash memory).
@@markusstrobl1067 what would be better? A ssd?
@@jollygreen4662 SSD would be perfect but I don't know if you can make it interface with the rest of the MCU. There's some discussion on the Tesla forums where they use a much larger eMMC. That should spread the writes out so each block is written to less.
@@markusstrobl1067 are there any emmc extension wire to lead into the cabin so u can swap the memory card without digging into the mcu everytime? Maybe bad idea?
I live in australia- can you buy any of these cars.
Jason
Can’t seem to find part 2. Anyone got a link?
In the description
We called Tesla Car Hospital. 😆
Rich Rebuilds bought and rebuilt a saltwater flood Model S that made it past the MCU.
Tony P ya but the work and time he has put into that car is unbelievable!
@@clay125 yeah, but that was alone, at night after work, and with a kitchen knife. 😂
So he's the guy who has been buying all these Tesla's!
He’s just one of the guys who buys salvage Tesla’s. You’ll have to blame Rich Rebuilds for driving the prices up.
Socket adapter on the emmc soic probably not a good idea for automotive applications.
They do that because Tesla would otherwise replace the entire board (or the MCU). And that's way too costly. Ideally, Tesla shoul'dve come up with a way to lower the amount of logs being written to the memory chips. If they were to do that the chips would last way longer.
Gruber needs some quiet shoes. HOLY SQUEEAKS!
Ted Smart
It's the epoxy floor, you know it's clean when it squeaks. Guy keeps a spotless workspace.
Anyone working on Tesla in Austin?
i ran out of tissues.
Here's what I've learned: if you live in Louisiana a Tesla probably isn't a good idea. I live in Louisiana.
👍👍😎✌️
The scary part is Tesla will eventually stop supporting their cars, like Apple does with older ipads. Planned obsolescence.
I think this video is all about showing you that you shouldn't be scared of this. There are companies doing the support that the manufacturers won't.
"THAT'S MY CAR!" boo hooo hoooo..
How on Earth can someone (in 2019) bid and buy a bricked electric car for 41.000 $ ?? Thinking he could bring it back home by riding it? That's hilarious :D
given the "hobby" of idiots here to throw bricks and concrete blocks off of overpasses on cars, sometimes causing horrific accidents as they smash through windscreens, killing or seriously injuring drivers, that'd be the first thing in my mind hearing the term "bricked".
Literally hit by a brick, broken window, maybe some interior damage.
@@jwenting well, uhm, you know its common to say that any kind of thing (even a car) gets bricked when it's somehow faulty to a point its no more usable other than as a paperweight (literally, a brick).
Putting lipstick on a pig - ha 😁
being kind to the environment and not buying gas sounds like a great way to save $$$....until you have to change a lightbulb, or other minor repairs on a Tesla. Then you will be kicking yourself. Still think that converting your compact ICE vehicle to electric has advantages, if you can do it yourself. No computers to lock you out, straightforward parts replacement....the ability Tesla has to shut off your vehicle remotely is unnerving. I want to be in control of my cars destiny.
Elon gives, elon takes.
Haha. You say that like you haven't seen 99% of new cars that are made. All new cars have overcomplicated electronics & built to fail
Kevin Nyandika you are absolutely right, over complicated, built to cost you $$$. An engineer once told me, If you want it to work, keep it simple. Always stuck....less things to go wrong
Kevin Nyandika I don't believe cars are built to fail. Every car has a single or multiple failure point, but it's often not planned. Sometimes it's totally unanticipated or not, depending on manufacturer. As a rule, Toyota /Lexus probably has the fewest failure points of any.
Wow. Tesla's can't handle driving thru a few inches of water. I think they should address this issue. So Rivin is looking more like a better EV. 🤔
Very few cars can go through a few inches of water. Toyota is the worst. Many many Toyota’s are bottom feeders. Especially 2000 to 2009 cars. You should not drive any car through more than 3 inches of water ( at speed). A lot of Cuvs don’t do much better. It is a car not a boat.
If you mean the white model S.. the few inches of water wasn't the issue...The guy drove into a culvert that he couldn't see.. that was deep and full of water. He says it in the story..
About Tesla's in general. Well.. after hurricanes auction houses and insurance whses are usually jam packed with >all< sorts of cars. Doubt any car can survive a flooding above the wheels. Ice or non-ice.
Rivian makes better EVs idk.. we'll have to wait till next year to know that
I could never imagine that such a great car was designed as an appliance. It basically can't be repaired if it ever gets near water. Expensive parts should be water proof, not just cables and computers lying around
filippxxx
All cars fail with water damage. Tesla's are costly to repair so insurance often just writes them off as totaled.
@@Son37Lumiere Most fail with water damage but almost none fail beyond repair. If your regular ICE cars get's flooded the stealership might not be able to repair it (at insurance acceptable cost) , but any other good shop can do it especially because of the aftermarket parts. If you can't get spare parts, the manufacturer should make one's car more splash proof than an iPhone.
@@filippxx Getting spare parts is definitely still an issue with Tesla but there are third party shops springing up all over to repair them.
Do people really abuse their new cars? When someone pays over $40k for a fragile car like a Tesla, you would think they take extra care and attention.
I do/did love my car and just made a mistake, not abuse.
A car is a car to 90% of the public. I have seen 2 year old Bentley’s covered in bird poop.
Never ever buy a flooded car
LEASE YOUR TESLA ONLY, ELON DOES DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO REPAIR YOUR OWN SHIT. IT'S ONE OF THE ONLY MISTAKES THAT WILL EVENTUALLY COST THE MAN
Stupid auction houses!!
These vehicles are to temperamental. They need a few more gens to be worthwhile.