Mosin Nagant vs. Seattle Police - Shooting Breakdown
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- Опубликовано: 9 мар 2022
- Before he crashed his pickup into a federal building in downtown Seattle, before he fired a rifle seemingly at random, before he was fatally shot by Seattle police officers, William Michael Stephens scrawled in permanent marker all over his garage door about how there was a plot to kill him.
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“a mentally ill man with a mosin nagant”
sounds like every tarkov player ever
goated comment
mad goated
LOL, or DayZ
LOL or Fortnite
Glad I didn't have to scroll that far to see a Tarkov comment
How would the police “de-escalate” a person charging them with a rifle, particularly after getting calls for an “ active shooter?” He got what he wanted, sadly, but justified.
No idea, but this is twitter we're talking about
Looks like they de-escalated it perfectly!
They de-escalated his body temperature proficiently. Bonus points to the officers for deactivating the active shooter!
@@iamanamericanpatriotallliv70 lmfao
Once I’m out of ammo I become the ammo
He should have fixed the bayonet before he charged the officers. He really blew his chance to gain some major style points on his way out.
Yes maybe shouting "Za Rodinu! Za Stalina!"
Kek
It's the only reason they still give you bayonet ... What a waste
It's a 44 version, it's got a bayonet already attached. It flips out from the handguard.
I was thinking that exact same thing lmao. Fix bayonets!
This is not just any Mosin Nagant, this is a Mosin Nagant M44, this has a shorter barrel and stock and an integrated folding bayonet, this was specially developed to act better in house fights.
And he didn't even unfold the bayonet, lost all those style points smh
The vast majority of Mosin are m44 s
@@HDSMEno the m91/30s are the most common
@@shoelessbandit1581 not of carbines they are not I had 12 of them my favorite rifle if you run out of ammo use it as a club
"I know what you're thinking, punk! you're thinking, 'Did he fire five rounds, or only four?' Well, seeing as how this is a Mosin Nagant M44, the world's most powerful assault rifle with an integral folding bayonet, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk? Do you feel lucky??"
It’s okay guys! His bayonet wasn’t fully deployed, so his accuracy was incredibly subpar!
Hahaha. I bet he didnt even shim the receiver with cardboard or the barrel with an oiled rag behind that one barrel band😆
Nyet 360 no scope, comrade.
My Mosin shoots left without the bayonet now. I don't want to ruin a nearly 100 year old rifle trying to re zero it
The bayonet doesn't affect accuracy, but it does affect point of impact
@@SgtPotShot You won't ruin it, all you need is a front sight adjustment tool from ebay and you can move the front sight to the side to compensate for the POI change. Works damn well and doesn't ruin the rifle since you can just use the adjustment tool to re-zero it to the factory zero since it's marked from the factory
Props to the 911 caller, she did a great job! She was calm, solid description and location, good stuff.
That was my first thought! She sounded like an off-duty dispatcher or officer.
The 911 dispatcher on the other hand...
"Can you still see him?"
Yah bish, I'm standing next to him sharing a ciggy
@@jugulartheninja How is that a bad question? you could see people in the background standing still, DO even called them out for standing by the cross-walk right next to him. As if he were to run off, they would need to find him again.
I mean most people just go about their lives barely paying attention, until something crazy happens... Your phone is in your pocket, I would hope you could give an accurate description of someone 60 seconds after they did something insane!!!!!....
@@jugulartheninja How on earth would the dispatcher know if the caller was still in the area? Maybe the caller was looking down from an apartment window and still had a visual? Its a very relevant question
If you ask me, they de-escalated things pretty well. Guy looked pretty calm afterwards.
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😅
LMFAO
100 percent correct
That F-150 handled the impact quite well. Could be a good Ford commercial.
it’s not reinforced
Built Ford tough ❤
Donut, I can confirm, pedestrians we're not stupid, they were just wearing raycon earbuds with active noise cancellation
Now that's funny 😂.
Thank you!!🤣🤣
Brilliant!
Pffff hahahahahahahaha
DAMN thats a good one lmfaooo, i wouldnt be surprised if donut uses this in a future video
Can we just take a minute to appreciate the 911 caller? That was the most calm and concise civilian 911 call I've ever heard.
Yeah she even gave an exact location, i wonder if she googled it before calling 911 just to be sure. Idk but that was quick calm and concise.
She was more calm than the 911 operator lol
Yeah that operator was more stress then them lol
Probably not a civilian
Yeah I legit thought she was a police officer calling for backup.
Now that's a rifle that will blow your lungs out at 600 yards.
Slightly less powerful than a hi capacity assault Glock 😂
But it’s probably the weight of 10 boxes you would be carrying when moving house!
@@beeboop1726sure if you’re a soy boy
@@beeboop1726 try 15 boxes
My father was a Police Officer and Deputy Sheriff during the 60's & 70's then I became a police officer in the late 90's. He always told me suicidal suspects were one of the most dangerous people to deal with because they were 75% suicidal an 25% homicidal. So difficult now to be any kind of LEO. The trauma is real, PLEASE talk to someone!
Usually, if they realize they are insane, they are not insane. It varies by degrees, but I have been around crazy people a lot (caring for them) and it is everyone else that is crazy, not them. They are very sincere and steadfast in their beliefs.
Are we just gonna ignore the fact the he ran his truck into the FBI building yet some civilian had to call 911 lol alrighty then 👍
It was the dead of night, probably the only one in the building was the cleaning lady
Good point
Yeah, you would think they would have some sort of security system or on duty security guards
buildings cant make phone calls even government ones lol
@@reefread1234 Alarm systems can.
Donut, as a former law enforcement officer and a parent, I'm sure you're aware of the notion that two wrongs do not make a right. Therefore, even though there is an obviously disturbed man shooting a rifle off at random, that is not a reason for people to disregard the solemn duty of the cross walk and jay-walk.
Thanks for the chuckle. 10/10 comment.
golden !
Had us in the first half ngl
Really had me there 😂😂
ahahahahahah
A guy with brain damage and a mosin nagant charging hopelessly into superior firepower? Literally the entire eastern front ww2.
I don't remember the Nazis having mosin nagants.
jk, I get your joke but idk man Russians did a ton of the heavy lifting in ww2 against nazi germany. Insulting them for that is arrogant at worst and ignorant at best
@@undrgrnd734they were still worthless communists
and wins
@undrgrnd734 get over yourself. The USSR Stavka had an unbelievably egotistical defense strategy that revolves more around their feelings than actual tactics and preservation of human life. “Not a step back” was literally the stupidest thing to do when the ability to fall back was their BEST advantage. They had tens of thousands of km to fall back to, all while the Germans hopelessly stretched their supply lines and ran out of troops to occupy the insane stretches of barren land. Instead they performed what is essential human sacrifice on their soldiers and civilians (refusing to let them evacuate Leningrad and countless other cities) and ensured that their casualties were exponentially higher than what they had to be. They literally sent tanks into battle at the beginning of operation Barbarossa without ammo, and told them to simply ram enemy tanks. They sent guys into battle without rifles just to get mown down.
And their heavy lifting can mainly be chalked up to pointless casualties. Without Lend Lease and invaluable British intelligence information, the USSR would have most likely been forced to sue for peace, and cede insane amounts of territory.
Also, the USSR had just got done invading Finland and Poland, and in the latter of which they massacred insane amounts of civilians, so they definitely aren’t the good guys.
@@obi-wankenobi1750 once again, and won. 90% of nazis fought and lost on the eastern front. The west was nothing more than a distraction while USSR won the world war 2. Everything else is details.
Damn the muzzle flash from the m44 is like a flash bang.
It looks like the movies
Would love to see our brave Twitter users try and "de-escalate" a situation where a mad man with a rifle is charging towards you.
Gotta love (/s) how those kinds of people always talk big when it isn't their own lives on the line, or wallet. Since they don't fucking pay taxes either. So they really have no say in the matter since they literally contribute nothing of value actions wise, or resource wise. As the saying goes "beggars can't be choosers" and yet they will try regardless.
We should let them try. 😉👌
Yesss!!!
My thoughts exactly
ThEy cOuLD hAvE shOt HiM iN tHe LEg!
A+ to the caller, perfect location, description, and conveyed all the important info very calmly.
yeah fr i made a comment about that also
100%. That caller was spot-on, calm, descriptive, and did an amazing job for being under pressure.
They were also funny when the operator asked if they could see them like”tf no I got out of there he’s ACTIVELY SHOOTING”
absolutely
@@draconian_dragons6588 that Told the operator he was actively shooting on that street not in a building.
Guy looks like a level one PMC on the first day of his first Escape From Tarkov wipe that decides to go to labs with the scav infantry Mosin on his first PMC raid.
"according to twitter this could have been deescalated" fuckin aye I burst out into laughter when i heard that
Dude I was like HOW? WTF 😂😂
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“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
- Acts 3:19
If are in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna/Rpc, Urcna, or a canrc church
(These are conservative and actual Presbyterian churches)
If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms or Wels Lutheran church.
If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC
(Different from the Church of Scotland)
If you are English I recommend the Free Church of England.
(Different from the Church of England)
Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups and it will show you locations
@@Shaggrtoon🐪
I don't know if "de-escalation" is the right word but when a guy is lying on his back trying to shoot himself in the head and then runs at you without pointing his weapon or making any attempt a violence, HE CLEARLY is trying to suicide by cop. They could've tased this guy or tackled him to the ground; he made no attempt at violence at any point. It's understandable the cops shot him to protect their own lives, as the situation was clearly confused, but in the end, I believe if they had more information, they totally could've got this guy alive.
@@monke6774 I agree to some extent but you can't really make that call when you're in that situation and need to make a split-second decision. I disagree with a lot of the cops' actions in some of these videos but hindsight is 20/20 in some situations
Hey donut, my town of Joplin Missouri recently had an officer involved shooting. Killing two officers and Majorly Injuring 1. The whole town and towns around it are hurting, in the small possible chance that you somehow see this comment. I hope you can bring some awareness to it for the a much bigger audience than just these couple of “small” towns around. Been a big fan for a while, hope you see this comment. Stay safe donut👋
If anyone was wondering, yes the suspect was also shot and died on scene.
@@i_do_know_what_im_doing8977 link the bodycams. if your small town even has them.
@@7gng1A lot of police departments almost never release body camera footage. I live in Omaha, NE and our police department never releases footage like this publicly.
@@7gng1 they do have bodycams, this happened 2 days ago. And to be honest man, I don’t think they plan on releasing bodycams, they have done press releases a couple times and have made posts. I didn’t personally know the officers but I do have a family member that did, and worked with him as an officer.
I will like this to push it.
For those who need it; the Mosin only holds five rounds in the integral magazine so the ten round limit did nothing in this case
Sure gave the politicians a good ol excuse to keep adding restrictions
It had a bayonet.
thats pretty much the point made in the very beginning in the form of obvious sarcasm
Don’t forget it’s still far more powerful than the scary 5.56x45 that the AR15 shoots.
@@its.Andy1 Dude, no it's not. The 5.56 puts softball size holes in people, and blows lungs straight out of the body.
/s
The police were lucky that he wasn't determined to harm them. The 7.62x54 would have smoked body armor.
In open combat, its completely useless, but in an ambush situation it could be used very effectively from concealed positions depending on accuracy and training.
@@ryanw2553 I wouldn't say useless in open combat. Those rifles have been used pretty effectively in various sandy places for the last couple decades.
@@792slayerin a gunfight against semi-autos, especially against an AR like the one cops had, I would say your chances of getting accurate shots off are pretty minimal
@@ethang1344 really depends on the individual.
@@792slayer not really
Good video bro keep up the good work
Shout out to those people who still obey traffic and pedestrian law even when there's an active shooter around. You the real mvp
Sounds like a GTA moment
@@Loli_lover206 Even civilians run in GTA lol, some even fight back
No they’re brainless and lucky to be alive
just some good ol seattle npcs
LOL
I mean, it is an obvious case of “Suicide by Cop”. That is in no way the fault of police that some individuals prefer to go out that way.
@killer wasp bro stop
@killer wasp Stop being a troll, nobody wants to watch that garbage.
@@brenton9492 its a bot dont bother.
Yeah. I wish there was a non lethal way of dealing with people like this.
@@usmom1113 it's a fucking bot, not a troll. stop responding to bots bruh no one is there to see your reply
Shoutout to the girl who called this in. She got out of a dangerous situation. Called 911. Gave a quick rundown. And gave a complete description of his attire.
That's one smart lady.
I used to work security at the exchange building right across the street. I immediately recognized the ramp the truck ran into. Almost always an armed guard posted at that ramp entrance.
Before being an LEO in WA , I did Federal security at this building and let me tell you this area is like a hub for crazies.
Man that must be terrifying sometimes!
@@aidanfordsword6954 no creep man up close and personal every time ya go to work.dont think I could do it
Wasn’t the first shooting at a federal building in Seattle… I remember the one at the FOB across the street..
Ended in a similar fashion….
Christ, as a locale that just makes it even more crazy
@@SuperDuran21 I think 2 SPD officers were shot in that one. So I'm glad this one had a better outcome
Ahh Seattle... Never disappoints 🤷♂️
I love your videos life keep it up
I live near Seattle and I hate
@@theflyer7688 same, i never like going to seattle.
@@theflyer7688 Hate no, love
Same, living near Seattle sucks.
That 911 caller was about as calm and matter of fact as anyone could be
5:15 at least he did that Manowar - Trooper stance before getting blasted
obviously those people at the cross-walk knew hat it was a bolt gun which is harmless, unlike those fully semi automatic ghost guns.
I hope your joking
I agree ..pop.............pop............pop............. instead of pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew
@@urdead229 he is
@@wutafungi Depends on how quick someone can rack it. Sometimes it can go pop...pop...pop
They obviously recognized it held less than 10 rounds . . . . .
mental health was the problem here, but at this point we were beyond being able to talk out the issue. sorry for the man and the officers that were forced to protect themselves
Seattle should have used one of the city's S.W.A.T. team. These "social workers and therapists" would have likely given him more ammo to soothe his worrisome ways.
Na I think that a law should come out to restrict mosin nagants to a 2 round clip maximum that would solve the problem. Mental health had nothing to do with this man. Ha ha ha
Fr. There needs be more awareness for mental health. Its clear that this man either had noone looking after him or noone cared because he was a nutcase. The true issue is our society has lost all sense of community. Welfare checks should be a thing people are ready to call onto people who look like like theyre having mental issues. THATS when social workers and therapists should be present. Make it a friendly visit and talk with the person, try to bring them in for medication and treatment. America is having massive issues with mental health problems that just go unchecked and this is what it leads to.
Most likely schizophrenic, not him “letting the cops do his dirty work” so eloquently put donut. Respect buddy.
Yup. He was a menace to society and got the participation trophy he deserves. A Darwin Award.
I grew up right across the water from Seattle. I saw a man get deleted after pointing a rifle at a group of cops approuching him. I remember people talking about how the cops didn't need to kill him. Don't mind the fact that i saw the whole situation with my own eyes and saw how the cops waited until they literally had a gun pointed at them. Seattle has lost it's mind. So now I live in North Carolina.
I walked past that building everyday for school in 2022, crazy seeing that a shooting was close
I'm a 911 dispatcher and if i had 3 wishes from a genie, my first wish would be that all callers are that good. Amazing calm description!
I was thinking the same thing. Pretty impressive. What's going on, where it's at, I'm not hurt but idk if someone else is, here's the description, etc.
Especially considering they probably got only about a seconds look at him.
And that it was 4:00 AM! The caller was super awake for that hour!
I don't know. When you ask for a description I would lead with the "he has a big fucking gun". It think that part is pretty descriptive.
@@mnoble247 That is also quite helpful
Seattle never disappoints with the entertaining content.
Perfer Florida 👍
He was not a master of klik pow
@@robner38384 Florida is great for "quantity". Seattle and Portland definitely has the "quality" though.
As a person living in spanaway who goes through Seattle, there is NEVER a dull day
that's what happens when you legalize ALL drugs in your state
I like how the caller was more calm than the dispatcher
Gotta love the muzzle flash on that Mosin.
This shooting could have been de-escalated. First of all, an orchestra could have been summoned to play soothing night music, from the safety of the balcony above.. Second, the entire psychiatric wing of a local hospital could have been taken to the site by limousine, outfitted with Kevlar vests, and allowed to approach the maniac. to calm him down. Third, none of the police should have been present, and the maniac should have been allowed to vent his fear and anger over the betrayal by his pastor, the Brazilian secret service, and Jodi Foster, by firing rounds at an armored vehicle marked "THEM." Fourth, a giant butterfly net carried by a military drone could have been deployed to immobilize him. Finally, why was there no marksman nearby with a rifle firing nonlethal tranquilizer darts, as shown in the excellent police procedural movie franchise Jurassic Park?
Instead, this valuable citizen was permanently cured by Drs. Smith and Wesson, Ruger, and Glock, incurring the wrath of sensible people everywhere, who understand that a mentally ill lunatic with a rifle firing randomly in a city at night ....just needs counseling and therapy and a puppy. At taxpayer expense. Forever.
This comment deserves more likes
Oh just what you sick bootlickers want, police militarized drones hunting black people with nets /s
Tragic event, but this was funny
@@zadinal _You serious? Are you trying to defend the man here? Let me ask you this. What were they SUPPOSED to do? Wait for him to reload if he was out of ammo? Wait for him to shoot one of the cops on scene? Explain it to me. This man BROUGHT IT ON HIMSELF. You're no smarter than the people in Seattle._
@@zadinal well this dudes white.... /s
real life 911 operator here and I'd just like to say how amazing it is the caller got a good viable description of the shooter. That like. literally never happens. "uh. he was between 4 foot and 8 foot, and had ears"
Hey that’s valuable info, that description lets us know he’s not a midget, the worlds tallest man, or Vincent Van Gogh
@@Brent-jj6qi criminally underrated comment 😭
@@joelsutton6707 yeah that was probably my funniest comment in months
And mind you this was from a person driving by
I’d be one of those people as I was cowering behind the solid part of my car door and mashing the pedal to the floor as I high tailed it out there.
“What did he look like?”
“Uh, fairly certain human shaped. I’m confident he wasn’t a triceratops. Just look for the dude with a gun.”
“Gee, thanks. Location?”
“Seattle.”
getting told to put your hands up and drop the gun at the same time is similar to the situation in the hotel of the man proned out.... The issuing of commands should come from 1 voice or echo the single voice. Everyone yelling whatever comes to mind worsens the scenario
The lady that called 911: calm and gave great description.
“Police need to be more active in stopping active shooters. It’s their job to protect us and they take their time to stop active shooters.”
The same person- “this could have been deescalated”
Actually its not in their job title to protect us but they cant engage unless engaged upon they can give a fuck less about the publics safety they just enforce laws by any means
@@austinhaney1335 is that why their slogan is serve and protect?
or is the protect part just for their paycheck
@@MrLukhut1 You both are straight up wrong. The police are not required to put themselves in danger to protect you. This was established long ago. However, generally they do so anyway. Police do not have the same rules as the military commonly uses. Police are permitted to escalate force. This is the primary difference between a cop and everyone else. They do not have to wait for you to shoot at them before they can shoot you. They can punch you even though you never touched them. They have to use force reasonable to the situation but are permitted to be the aggressor. Otherwise they would never be allowed to even grab your arm to arrest you unless you hit them first.
@@andrewt.5567 A motto doesnt mean its the specific guidelines they abide by. Its an expression of morals.
The same people:
"We need stronger gun control laws."
Also the same people:
"Disarm the police. "
Yes, it could have been deescalated, the crazy guy could have left the gun on the ground and did what the officers told him.
Why are the police the only ones that have to deescalate a situation? Im pretty sure they were trying to. The suspect only wanted escalation.
he went there prepared to die and he was gonna make sure that happened. not the cops fault
yeah its pretty sad that twitter defends a dude trying to fucking charge police with a mosin nagant
@@darthjarjardrips3062 I deescalated and canceled my twitter account
The answer is simple why the police are the ones that need to deescalate. It is because no one takes person responsibility for their actions.
You have got to love Twitter! Every time you go onto Twitter, you lose 67 brain cells and then depending on who's Tweets that you're following, you can lose up to 387 brain cells per tweet! I really appreciate the obnoxious tweets that are illogical and prove that Common Sense isn't so Common! Rose City ANTIFA complaints to the Portland Police that they took 14 minutes to arrive when one of their members got shot and killed by a Gypsy Jokers MC member...... don't mess with a 1% Motorcycle Club and don't push to "defund the Police!" It's not hard to grasp, 1% MC members don't take shite and if the Police Departments had more money, they might arrive sooner (but I doubt it?) Yeah, you gotta love Twitter!
Yo that was a super good 911 caller. Quick simple and relevant info.
I think he was having trouble deploying the bayonet on his M-44.
I love how the people who show up at a simple college speaking engagement and escalate it up to a riot always love to claim the police should have de-escalated a violent encounter with an armed criminal.
Excellent point
@@iUseMyUnderwearToWipe Matches the point of their pointy little heads.
They did de-escalte the encounter, they de-escalated the man into the fucking soil. Case in point the man fucked around and found out.
shut up you live at MURICA hahahaha damn horrible to be there literally nuclear bombs are gonna shower there haha get ready Murica, love to be smoking weed
Real_Aiwass Vibes America is nowhere near the Ukraine though
It's extremely difficult to deescalate a situation when someone is suicidal let alone when they are armed and the situation is already at max intensity
Hence service weapons.
@@KH-rt3ef police should return to 1970s era single action S&W
@@itsallgoodman4108 Not a good idea considering that modern day criminals may try to use semi automatic weapons, if the police have a single action well they would be fucked
@@Stalker_man1 yes but itd be funny
@@itsallgoodman4108 American 180 go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
...Now that, that would be funny
Bro got capped on his scav run..
I’m born and raised in Seattle and I agree it is goofy everyone always gets mad when something like this happens. If someone was charging you with a rifle after shooting it around , I’m sure you’d defend yourself too.
No,we should just fart rainbows at them until everyone loves each other. 🤣
@@toxicrevenuegaming9415 😭😂
@@toxicrevenuegaming9415 true
If the guy was black every one would have flipped out
@@cam-oo7gz Daniel Shaver shooting would have led to riots if he was black. That is the definition of an execution if I have ever seen one and it never made any news outside Arizona.
I personally think it’s just a misunderstanding, he was wanting to share his awesome Mosin-Nagant with some professionals. 👍🏾
And share conspiracies!
props for the spelling of Mosin-Nagant! had to double check your comment if I spelt it right just to make this comment lol!
He wanted to show everyone his bubbafied tula
Was it... the Gigachad Mosin?
A real taste for the classics
Was fully anticipating on hearing a flock of ducks when negotiating with the Seattle man lmao
1:16 I said ‘wha..?’ and tilted my head til you chuckled 😂
Glad donut is back with the police content and shooting breakdowns, these are my favorite. Especially when people are lying on social media about it afterwards
Not much to lie about here. It just is an example of cops firing after the person is already dead.
@Cherri Berri obviously you know nothing about how much a human can take before dying. Watch on of donuts other vids where a man was shot 15 times before he died, mind you, this was while he was still moving towards the officer
@@cherriberri8373 you’re not from around here, are ya?
@@cherriberri8373 cringe
Lying is no good, people on Twitter need to deactivate their accounts
"There is an active shooter... actively shooting". The 911 caller has waited her whole life to make that call.
I don't think I would be able to say that. I would just drive away
That’s what I thought. She was relishing it. If she had said there’s a disturbed man firing a gun wildly into the air maybe they would have approached the situation differently
Active shooting is an American tradition
@@Ktmfan450 and a russian one
@@maxludlow6629 yeah like she knew the guy had mental health issues
The infamous mosin sticky bolt kept him from shooting himself lol
Surprised they even took call
I'm honestly still reeling at the irony of the fact that I discovered that I'm now mag banned in Washington and have to buy 10 rounders to replace my 17 round carries, because a man in Seattle rammed the federal building and attacked people with a 4rd fixed magazine Mosin. It's almost like criminals don't care about the law.
Yeah, you definitely have to replace those 😉 for sure, definitely
No you don't. Read the law it only says sell, manufacturer and distribute. It says nothing about possession. So keep packing your 17 Rounders. You can find out more from Washington gun law on you tube.
you can still carry your 17 round mags just cant buy more or sell them
You can't buy more in Washington state. You'd be perfectly legally justified to cross state lines, buy the higher capacity magazines and then freely take them home to your place of residence. Stock up now to defend yourself from the state and federal jack boots.
*Edited because I missed a key on my phone and ended the last sentence with a m instead of a period.
@@wiredreflexes1930 Thankfully aye, when I initially wrote my comment the subsection in the House Bill still stood that they were going to be illegal for concealed carry. That subsection was removed before it made the final signing at the governor's desk so I'm glad that change was made.
A situation can only be de-escalated if the suspect wants it to be, his mind was already made when he showed up
Edit- high quality elden ring convo happening on this threat for whatever reason lol
PIGS are given tasers for a reason! they just never use them because they love shooting people.
@@karenwhitney5052 bait
@@karenwhitney5052 I want you baby girl
@@yuck1791 THEY BAITED THAT POOR BLACK MAN INTO GETTING SHOT! These pigs are of SATAN! cherokee 15:26 "He who assumes power of the common man is spawn of the devil unless specified to be a man of thy lord." These PIGS are not men of the lord and so they are DEMON SPAWN!!! They came from HELL to kill people!
@@karenwhitney5052 lmao
Yep!!! You are Right!!!
How have I not seen this?
Travelled all over the US and can’t describe how nasty parts of Seattle are. Drugs being used everywhere and a lot of the alleys have piss and crap
Don’t waste your time
Seattle reminds me of Vancouver BC's DTES, except you stretched it to cover the entire city.
Democrat dystopia
Or you can just avoid a 6 square block area in the heart of downtown and enjoy one of the most beautiful cities on the planet. The city of Seattle has about 2 square miles in the downtown area that is absolutely disgusting. Crime and drug infested streets covered in piss, shit, tin foil sheets with fetanyl residue, tents, and people dying of overdoses on a daily basis. The other 99.8 percent of the greater Seattle area is absolutely gorgeous with some of the cleanest air you'll ever breathe in a major city. Lakes, mountains, the puget sound. I'm really glad Seattle isn't a tourist destination anymore. I love this city. I stay heavily armed but I love this city.
@@mikeabel7577 I guess it’s good if you can appreciate the place, even if it’s a socio political shit hole😂
Sounds like Brussels. And I had hoped that was the only city with such unusual decor.
The situation could have been deescalated if the Seattle Police Department utilized surplus M1 Grands with fixed bayonets, then engaged in a gentlemanly bayoneting of the suspect, just my two cents.
Bayonet fencing...now THAT would get me to watch the Olympics
@@insanerus5403 This should be a thing.
A gentlemanly banzai charge...I thought that was standard procedure in situations like this one
"This could have been de-escalted"
Right, the insane guy who started blindly shooting a rifle in a crowded city block to lure cops in, then tried to shoot himself in the head, and when that failed, charged the cops, would have listened to reason, and gone peacefully.
Doughnut Operator is a Kool Name....
As a resident in the area, THANK YOU! I'm so tired of criminals being the victims around here!
Hear hear...shoutout from Shoreline
Vote blue you get this bullshit it's truly sad how twisted democrats really are in the head lmao
Honestly same, I'm in Puyallup and the people fucking suck
you make no sense, this is a guy with mental illness basically commiting suicide by cop. people like you will twist anything to suit their agenda. do you work for CNN?
by criminals you just mean californians in general eh? lol.
funny but true.
Sad but true: you can't save everybody. If someone is determined to go out, you can't always stop them, even if best case scenario they're on a secure unit under professional supervision. Where there's a will there's a way unfortunately. Kudos to the police, they did all they could.
Thankfully he was the only one hurt here. Those people at the crosswalk were fucking nuts.
@@techhelpwizardgenie3146 agreed, but in fairness I think it's called bystander syndrome (could be wrong). Basically when you see something crazy happening, you assume either it's meant to be happening, and if not, someone else has already taken care of it. To give an comparison, how many times have you walked past a street brawl on a Saturday night and thought "should I get involved to try break it up?... nah its not my business, I'm sure the police are already on their way, I'll just crack on"
@@rockstarJDP Yeah, but it's also important to know when you shouldn't get involved, sometimes doing so would only escalate the situation.
so if i dont want to live anymore, your going to lock me in a room until i die naturally.
@@raw1465 Well, if you "don't want to live anymore" by being active shooter then yes, there are reasons to keep you locked up
That's a M44 Mosgin-Nagant - a shortened version put out late in WW2. I'm actually thinking of buying a M1891 'Remington' Mosgin-Nagant manufactured by Remington under contract. The sights are in arshins - about 100 arshins to 78 yards. Have to get used to it.
Well handled, just tragic all around.
Sad that he had so many intrusive thoughts and issues that led him to this point. But even worse for the officers who have to live with what happened this day
Exactly this. Dead men have no worries, it's the living who suffer.
I am astonished with a Us police dealing with these situations. Shooting so many rounds in clearly dead person. 1-2 , even 5 shots fired could be understood, but most videos out there show enough bullets to stop Russian invasion fired into single suspect.
@@lobobaltazar1322 let's see someone run at you with a loaded rifle and see how many times you shoot them
Maybe if all of them didn't fire half of their rounds into him even after he folded over they wouldn't have to live with murdering someone.
@@lobobaltazar1322 Exactly. They continued firing after he had already fallen to the ground. Even if he still died I'd be cool with them firing until he stopped, as that is what unfortunately needs to be done so nobody else gets hurt, but continuing after he fell? I HOPE they feel like shit for that, yeah.
I call it " a second to decide and a life time to talk about it". This is just a tragic part of life. Wether through ill intent or mental illness people can and will do bad things leaving law enforcement with no choice but to eliminate the threat.
And talk people will.
@@firstconsul7286 something that is done far to much lol
this is why you clean your three liner gun in a well ventilated place. That pitted bore takes lots of time, and the scrubbing, lots of fumes that will damage your health.
The caller was awsome…good location, good description and smart enough to not be part of the problem
2:29 I'm willing to bet that the person calling on the 911 audio has some amount of emergency preparedness training and as someone not qualified to say whether they did a good job or not, I give them an invisible gold medal.
I mean it could just be someone with a clear train of thought and an understanding of what's important to state and what's not
As a project manager, it hurts watching him destroy that commercial garage door. They're waaayyyy more expensive than you'd think, and with all the supply chain blah blah blah, they take forever to get. At least here in TX.
That's your first response when a guy shoots a Mosin into the air like he just don't care? 😂
@@hellohis9 well it seems like he did crash into the garage first soooooo-
@@hellohis9 yes and it should be. Especially since that's a government building they'll give the job go the lowest bidder who will do the shittiest job, and it will probably have some plywood nailed together for at least a month before all that
@@abdulelkhatib2674 More like the will overpay someone to do a crappy job. The government isn't good with our money.
Nah man this is Seattle. That just officially became a new homeless village. Also, they consider them a endangered species there, so you aren't allowed to move them once they nest.
Thats crazy
The black car speeding up then hearing the call from the driver to report him shooting was hilarious to me
Shout out to that lady who called 911.
Calm, cool, and collected.
She related valuable info to police AFTER escaping the arena unlike the rest of the stupid idiots trying to get footage of someone shooting at them for social views.
she was 10x more calm than the dispatcher haha, no hate to dispatch but those 2 need to trade jobs, the caller had that calm voice that could settle me down in the shittiest shitstorm
Just want to say, as someone from the Seattle area that not all of us are outraged at the police 24/7 for doing their jobs... some of us have lives
he was gun down faster then a dear in wi
@@tylerlombardo1009 go home, you're drunk.
@mason morgan Agreed
Did you just agree to yourself?
@@blackwatch2516 no, agreed to OP
dude, this headline is hysterical
Another air breather off this planet.
I’d say the cops “de-escalated” the situation just fine…
With the assistance of 9mm and 223 yeah 😏
Beat me to the punchline.
Yep and they got to have a "mad minute" also. De escalate their stress.
When I was a patrol officer, we were trained to deescalate situations and to try and avoid conflict at any and almost all costs.
I... I don't know how you could have deescalated this situation. Just. Cops did their best man.
Unfortunate he probably wanted to be shot. But for all they know, he was about to A) fire at them or B) rush them with a bayonet
You can't help all crazy
Well it was also people on Twitter saying that you could so they probably didn’t know what they were talking about
@HolySwordExcaIiber and also the taser could not connect or don't work
There were too many possibilities of failiure with this plan to risk it on my opinion
I know he tried to shoot him self and ran to the cops in seconds not much time to tell him everything is going to be ok and people love him
Angrily fires bolt action in the air
I recall being able to buy Nagants for like $35 with my type 03 FFL back in the day. Hilarious to see what they sell for now.
Damn they shot so many times.
Sure hope that Mosin is okay.
Stupid and deadly cannot be shot enough!
Ikr
I hope to God that is not a historical rifle, and it's just some repo
@@thetexan1011 used to be moose nuggets could be had for fifty bucks. sadly bubba effed up so many they are going up drastically
Sorry to say, the M44 caught a bullet, and is a casualty.
Weapons used in crimes are destroyed. This weapon was doomed the instant he rammed the gate.
"It could have been de escalated"
"How?"
"I don't know but I just assume it could"
Seriously, these people have had years to come up with an alternative and the best they can imagine is putting a social worker into the middle of all that like their even going to be heard over the noise.
I suspect the two people down at the corner were social workers.
Well it's twitter, they're just a bunch of dikhead that never taste the real world or situation like this
1A auditors "gathering content" for a story.
How many young inexperienced social workers have to be killed before they give up that idea?
no, a social worker wouldn't be sent into a situation where the person is actively shooting that's just a fucking stupid thing to assume. The person had mental health problems yea but the call wasn't saying they need help the call was about an active shooter.
damn they lit bro up
Anybody else see that the officer beside the bodycam on the roof doesn't even look down their sights while they was shooting.
Even if it's old, a battle rifle is a nightmare to face. It has range AND plenty of power. Not many options for the officers. The original Mosin Nagant round has a steel inner core that can pierce armor, and power between 308 and 30-06. De-escalating this is impossible.
Soviet surplus 7.62 x54r will shoot right through live trees 18 inches thick.
@@FryingTiger just shot one today for the first time and the 7.62 went through the steel rod we had our targets on. Broke the rod in 2
Muh two world wars, but for real though, it'll make a hole in anything that isn't a few inches of hard steel
Motherfuckers back in 1891 pulled up and said "what if we made a rifle so diabolically good people will be using this 131 years later?"
For sure. The old "garbage rod" packs a hell of a wallop. What it lacks in capacity. It makes up for in velocity.
This is obviously a really tragic and sad situation. Im glad no one else was hurt and I'm sorry the guy didnt get the help he needed, but by this point it was too late really.
@@jumpingoutofairplanesmentality you need AA
@@jumpingoutofairplanesmentality you need Jesus
@@jumpingoutofairplanesmentality you need help
@@Urge-To-Burn wutidooskee?
he got the help that he needed
Surprised I never heard about it as I live right next to seattle
Pedestrians were like "bro, it's just a massive bolt action rifle. Getting shot once is so 1968".
I'm praying all these officers quickly recover from this mentally :(
I think that the people who believe every tense situation can be de-escalated, should be sent into those tense situations, to show us non-idiots their tried-and-true methods.🤣
oh how i wish that could happen!
Only one person could have de-escalated that situation and he chose not to.
Maybe they should have tazered him. Instead of suicide by cop it would have been cop suicide.
@@mikeloker6908 dude the guy had a gun..
@@reaction5059 and dude above is obviously using sarcasm
God, it's like the tech 9 of long guns, halting fire and near impossible to cycle
Home boy got LIT up
Probably the first ever attempted bayonet charge on officers
Nope, bayonets have been around for a LONG time. I'm sure it's happened more than a dozen times over history in just the US.
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