I only have a low res copy of the book if anyone's got a better one tell me where to get it. I could've also been an asshole and brought up how the movie shows jackshit good feats to back up ANY of Shimo's hype and as a direct refutation to any pink>Burning AP claims but I didn't think I needed to. And yeah I'm calling out bastards riding the hype train against actual information.
Sorry but Godzilla x Kong we see in the film absorbs irradiation from a nuclear power plant that means he is more powerful than before also Evolved Godzilla he is 20 times stronger they can have a lot of power stock than before in addition , he is no longer infected by ice or heat, that’s why he is more powerful than burning Godzilla also from Shimo. Evolves Godzilla >>>>>>>>>>>buring Godzilla Evolves Godzilla >>>>>>>>>>shimo
@@GhilesGhilasseGolDRoger first of all, how in the actual fuck would absorbing energy from one power plant put him above burning. second, E goji isn't twenty times stronger, he addresses in the video (which you pretty clearly did not watch). third, Goji is not immune to ice, he literally frozen by shimo in the movie. Fourthly what the fuck is a "Godzilla Evolves Godzilla"?
@@thatoneguyontheinternet7749 firstly I saw the video i don’t agree and more proof than that, and secondly you didn’t see the film correctly because it’s said in the film adaptive capacity, do you know read? Plus he freed himself alone, I don’t think he can do that before evolving. And third month it’s a nuclear power plant not an electric power plant, sorry i don’t understand what are you saying?
No matter how well this video is said, people are too stubborn to listen to reason. By the way, what happened to that little troll? I haven't seen his comments lately.
Evolved is the most glazed form of this Godzilla we’ve seen yet, people are putting him on Thermo scale with no proof or evidence. He’s featless when faced with movie speculations, and all he has to say that he’s powerful are statements. Statements, that are constantly misinterpreted or have nothing to do with him > Thermo. An atomic breath should do even more than a pulse with logic. The pulse is used to cover a larger surface area and all the energy is not directed at one area as an atomic breath does. An atomic breath has all the energy concentrated on one specific area, if the atomic breath of SC Evolved was even comparable to Thermo’s pulse, it would’ve put a hole right through Skar King and Shimo.
Thank god someone knows this. Ive seen so many people say Shimo 1 taps Ghidorah, Evolved beats Burning etc. And its very annoying when people say stuff like that. Edit: Also seen people say Kong with BEAST Glove beats KOTM Godzilla
Thanks for finally saying it. This isn’t anything new though. I still remember when people said Godzilla 2000 is now the most powerful G and Orga the most deadliest kaiju he’s faced.
@@Yoeary45 Nope, though one could make a case for him being above GMK Ghidorah with a LOT of wanking. But at the time in 1999, people's recency bias made them believe he was the strongest kaiju of all time, simply due to having more advanced VFX.
So btw for “shimo freezing ghidorah” She did it by accident, She was freezing the planet and Godzilla and Mothra yes they were both fighting ghidorah, Managed to hold him down long enough for him to freeze, So shimo kind of froze him but not really
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Heard someone saying she was causing an ice age at the time this was happening. Hense an accident Granted I don’t know why goji didn’t retaliate on her, Maybe he could be a reason skar king gained control over her
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 what exactly does it say, if it just implies she somehow froze Ghidorah then from what we can put together, since Micheal Dougherty AND a guidebook only says Godzilla and Ghidorah fought and Godzilla won, then it could be implied that when she started the ice age sometime in the past when Godzilla shot Ghidorah into the water he froze over quickly due to her ice age not because she directly froze him
So as the novel says Ghidorah when charging up from the Power grid can’t keep the power in so he let it go releasing a death blow means he would return to base form right ? And if this is true then what would be the take on Jared statement saying Shimo and Ghidorah are relative meaning Spiral > Shimo = Ghidorah And as you said that Shimo and Godzilla work together to beat Ghidorah is speculative so as the same way isn’t Shimo sniping Ghidorah a speculation And also the fact that Shimo was not at her full power at all obviously bc she was enslaved and tortured, a full powered Shimo would most likely be above Base Ghidorah Although I do say that we don’t know if Shimo can get power ups or not but I think it’s worth addressing I do think Ghidorah would win by just getting amps and backing off if he feels weaker and his Battle IQ and abilities are far superior to Shimo Also I would say Nuke amp is above base Ghidorah cause on screen he was always shown to be the superior of the two and if Nuke and spiral are equal as Jared says then it would put him above Base Ghidorah So as of now I do admit Ghidorah and Nuke amp are above Shimo and Spiral by quite a margin This Proves that Statements are not above what we see on Screen Love the video and the Effort Also what do you think about Chronic’s GXK video
No it says he was charging up and couldn't contain his rage anymore. I don't think Shimo's ever noted to be weakened, like at all. Nuked was taking much more damage in the battle though and Evolved is physically inferior. I could see Shimo beating base Ghidorah despite him being stronger Pretty bad actually. Lotta headcanon.
I agree with your points, the consistency checks out. However that raises a few questions I would like your opinion on. In the fight where Godzilla takes Ghidorah into the water, would you say Godzilla is stronger then, as base but in the water than pink would be out of the water, or would Ghidorah just have gotten that much of a nerf while he's in the water? probably a bit of both, but that raises another question. do you think Tiamat could beat Ghidorah if they had a fight in the water?
I take it that Godzilla's death rolls just output more damage than his normal attacks. Bites and claw swipes didn't really bug Ghidorah even AFTER Godzilla got the nuke. I think Ghidorah's still too powerful for Tiamat to really do much about even in her home turf.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Ghidorah in water is in major trouble. The storms provide an electric shield that runs thru it's bio nuclear body. Godzilla ripped Ghidorah apart with ease in the water. Ghidorah can't pull any electricity from it's storms awhile under water. I'm sure Godzilla could really damage Ghidorah with his stomic ray if both are under water due to Ghidorah not having that electric shield to protect it.
@@tedunseth3966 Since when was literally any of this stated or even remotely implied? Ghidorah's storm doesn't provide him any type of "shield" whatsoever, Godzilla ripping apart or harming Ghidorah underwater is just due to the fact that Godzilla is a better combatant underwater to the point where he has the leverage necessary so that he can effectively deliver major damage to Ghidorah. Ghidorah's never had any type of "shield", Godzilla just can't rip into him like he did in the ocean fight because he regularly can't gain that type of advantage against Ghidorah anywhere outside of the ocean.
@@AidenPlayz27-r3v When Ghidorah awakes in Antarctica the first thing we see is his storms form as soon as he awakes and is freed from the Ice. You actually hear the thunder and lightning. Ghidorah fires his gravity beams from his storms. All that energy from the storms due to his bioelectrical biology do provide him protection. A cat 6 is a lot of energy. You have to get upclose to do some damage on him. It knew it was toast when Godzilla had hold of him at sea. Godzilla was able to rip his head off with ease. I agree that outside the ocean that Ghidorah is in a lot better position to avoid being ripped apart. It seemed that Godzilla was in bad shape from his bionuclear reactor that was going to implode. That is why he seemed to lose some steam. He needed to release and needed Mothra. It makes sense that we see Kong actually put up a far better fight at sea than Ghidorah could. Kong was able to immobolize Goji by grabbing his arms. Kong has strong arms awhile Ghidorah doesn't have any. His wings would be quite heavy under water.
Yeah Evo never felt that much stronger Also you should do a 1954 goji scaling video or one on destoroyah (weirdly he is said to be weaker than spacegodzilla and super mg by many fans for some reason)
He did Minus one vs 1954 which is close enough for now. Yeah fans are morons even tho the feats and narrative and statements say otherwise lol Destoroyah is confirmed the strongest and can back it up.
That’s what I’m saying. Like they say it’s a lot more powerful than thermonuclear but at the same time they didn’t do a good job at actually showcasing that.
They said she is "something on the level of Monster Zero. Or worse." and later they said she isn't as "bad" as Ghidorah refering to her character, not their level of power as before. To make clear she is a "worldender", yet doesn't want to destroy the world like Ghidorah. "Shimo was stronger" as EvoGoji, yet "Godzilla is doing much better in his supercharged state, but it still seemed like a toss-up". So, she is definitley "worse".
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 On screen Godzilka attacked her multiple times when she was distracted by skar king calling her to attack Kong and even then she flung him with one arm and temporarily took him out the fight.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812Objectively winning? My friend, watch the fight again every time shimo is focused on base form evolved she is dominating him. Godzilla only gets A few good tackles(when she is distracted )and one of them leads to him being launched halfway across rio and leads him unconscious for a while in which Kong gets ragged. Once he supercharges then he is able to match shimo and even then they are equal as said in the novel. Shimo is definitely stronger then base evo
@@DevVoid-sq4oy The novel is clearly wrong when he very directly dominated her on screen. I'm convinced New Empire defenders don't know what unconscious actually is if you think the throw did anything to him.
3:07 Thank you for the facts. I have heard so many kong fans say "KoNg WaSn'T eVeN tRyInG tO kNoCk OuT gOdZiLla AnD GoDzIlLa WaS tRyInG tO kIlL kOnG" when they blatantly ignore the fact that godzilla was using no abilities and was doing nothing but using kong like a punching bag.
If base g19 is 10/10 in terms of power then where would you put g14, nuke boost g19, g21, base g24, supercharged g24, base pink, spiral pink and burning g19 at ?
G14-6/10 Nuked-30/10 G21-starts at 7 or 8, down to 5 by any Kong fight, probably like 2 by the Mechagodzilla fight G24-9 French-10 Pink-20 Spiral pink-31(could be higher but nothing objective stated yet) Burning-485/10
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812Wait why is base G19 a 10 while base G24 a 9? Shouldn't they both be 10 since there is nothing to indicate that base G24 is weakened
When they say Shimo isn’t as bad as Ghidorah, they seem to referencing how she isn’t a malicious destroyer like Ghidorah, not that she is outright weaker Other than that, good, video and to quote Gordon Ramsay “Some good fucking food”
Something I will point out, that is not Burning Godzilla. That is Thermo Godzilla. Two completely different things. But anyway, I'm glad you're pointing this out. There was like 0 feats that helped to show just how strong Evo Godzilla was in comparison to any other version. Everyone keeps thinking that he gets like super massive power-ups every single movie he's in, like GvK Godzilla inherits the Thermo boosts or something, it's getting ridiculous, lol.
In the movie itself, when they refer to the energy that Godzilla is going to consume, they say that this energy is going to be SuperCharged, why are you saying that it only increases his resistance/stamina 20 times? What fuckking sense does that make? If they weren't referring to power then they wouldn't say anything like that
Most factual and true scaling video after gxk released, I've been telling people time and time again that pink goji and Shimo would literally get cooked by thermo and they all called me a "kotm glazer" because "evolved is x20 stronger and his beam is confirmed to be more powerful than thermo's pulses ! And Shimo wasn't even phased !" Like, mf, Shimo had visible claw markings on her belly and last time I checked the whole city wasn't melting away when evolved fired his beam.
Godzilla can't control his thermonuclear state. Evolved can hold a lot more energy. It's still the same Godzilla so why does this matter? The version of Godzilla right now is the most powerful version of the character.
@@tedunseth3966 watch the video kid, Evo gets dog walked any day of the week by thermo, it's not even a discussion, thermo exceeds his limit while Evo is always a good margin bellow halfway of his full capacity, this shouldn't be a debate
@@petroshalkos3453 Is "Kid" slang??? I would bet I'm an older kaiju fan and might be old enough to be your father. I've been a fan for 50 years. I don't think the same character can be dog walked. Your take is that Thermo is far more destructive. The issue is that Godzilla can't hold that much energy without imploding. He needed Mothra or his was going to detonate like an atomic bomb. With the Evolved state he can carry 20x amount more energy. This means that Evolved is far more durable with 20x more energy reserve. I don't think Godzilla can do Thermo unless he's hit with another nuke and needs to release. We saw in Boston that Godzilla was very tired due to his levels hitting critical. My point is that an Evolved Godzilla overall is superior. Prior to going Thermo he wasn't doing very well. At first he was taking the fight to Ghidorah. An Evolved Godzilla would destroy Ghidorah. He seems faster and his built shows longer arms for grapple and other advantages. We don't know if Ghidorah's electric shield would protect it(him) from Goji's atomic ray. I wouldn't be surprised if Evolved Godzilla could fire and remove a Ghidorah head and neck. I would need to check if it meant that Evolved has raised the temp in his atomic ray.
@@tedunseth3966 not really, you see, his base capacity is the equivalent of his form in the begging of gxk and begging of kotm since that is his normal peak, as both novels state, in Boston it was stated that he was already above his energy threshold and he was hurting himself as the novelization suggests, the fight went on for 8 hours using the time of day where Mady came to the football field and the time of day when Godzilla was crowned king of the monsters, and the novel also states his power was rising by the minute, essentially slowly killing himself, let me say it like this, let's take a 1x1 space within goji's body, that space has 5 radiation storing elements, evolved now has 100 radiation storing elements in that same 1x1 space, but Boston goji had more radiation within that space, leaking outside of the storage, he could still use it but it was hurting him, and would had killed him if it wasn't for mothra, evolved sure CAN be stronger, but he would also have to go a good margin above his x20 capacity since the multiplier of Boston goji was so great that people without machinery could tell the difference between moment a and moment b in terms of power, you can do the math but I won't bore you with that, so just know that by low balling and completely underestimating the multiplier and not even counting mothra's life essence and radiation, and also assuming goji was at base when he came in, which he was not, thermo's number comes in at a staggering 28-35 times his base, which exceeds evolved's maximum capacity, and even if you don't believe me let's use the statements from the novel, where only when Godzilla hit his supercharged evolved state did monarch scientists concidered that he reached a new peak of power, and that, for someone not as dedicated as you claim you are, would mean that thermo is bellow evolved, but you have to understand that the argo, which holds all of Monarch's machinery for monitoring titans, left roughly halfway through since Godzilla was reaching dangerous levels of radiation and the chances of his body giving up on him and dying were too high to risk staying, the main cast didn't have machinery or the mentality to monitor goji, so the only info monarch has on thermonuclear goji is that he was the result of goji overcharging and that it managed to kill Ghidorah, so only supercharged is above middle of Boston fight goji, meaning he is very relevant to late Boston fight goji who, surprise surprise, lost to Ghidorah, who is also the reason that an argument like "they can monitor from afar" doesn't stand since his storm hid his presence until he came significantly close to the argo on all scenarios, ofc after realizing that he was the cause they could pin point his location on the map but not monitor him, and goji was also within the storm, so there is no way these people could get any readings of thermo, so no, I don't really care how long you've been a part of this community since your lack of knowledge doesn't change, Godzilla evolved is leuges bellow thermo in almost every single category, cope with it.
@@petroshalkos3453 I was actually enjoying your response until the last few sentences about you acting like a child. What are you bipolar? You went from being civil to an idiot. What am I coping about? Do you know how stupid that sounds? It's in your opinion that Thermo is more powerful then Evolved. I agree that once he went Thermo that it was peak level for Godzilla. Evolved is more stable and more powerful then the version that fought Ghidorah in Boston and Kong in Hong Kong outside of Thermo state. The only reason Godzilla was losing to Ghidorah was because he was in bad shape from over heating(simple terms). His readings were going up. It's like starting a fight and 10 min later your fighting with a fever. It's going to weaken you. The fight between Godzilla and Ghidorah was 12 minutes because he finally went Thermo and incinerated Ghidorah reclaiming his crown back as King of the Surface Titans or KOTM at that time of the MV. I never said "Thermo wasn't peak for Godzilla". Evolved is a more powerful version of Godzilla in general. He can't stay in Thermo. Why? HE WOULD DIE. Make sense? Godzilla powered up because it was a greater threat that almost killed him. You can act civil or act like a typical teenager. The only person that seems worked up over a simple conversation is "YOU". Claiming to tell other people that they lack knowledge to strengthen your take is called manipulation. Not Facts. I've been a fan of ALL these characters/Kaiju for along time. What you read on, I actually lived it. I grew up on the playground debate over Godzilla/King Kong. You have NO clue how special this MV is for older generations. Movies,Comics, Artbooks and action figures. You couldn't find a Godzilla or Kong shirt to save your life in the 70's and 80's. My father passed in 09 and never saw a rematch with GvK. Does it really matter if someone disagrees with you? I respected what you typed till the last 2 sentences that sounded like my youngest kid would say.
I LOVED GxK but tere are some downslides 1: the villain: Skar King is a good villain, but i feel like he should be taller than Kong and maybe even Stronger instead of treated like a joke and he should just have shimo on his side instead of controlling her also i feel like Legendary and Warner Bros had the chance to even add a Toho villain like Destoroyah, Space Godzilla, Mecha King Ghidorah, Biollante, Gigan etc 2: Godzilla Evolved: i think they missed a BIG chance to add Godzilla's sprial breath, and instead of Godzilla being pink he should have been red or smth (but overall, interesting design) 3: Screentime: Something that bothers me and i have a problem with is THE LACK OF SCREENTIME, THEY REALLY DID GODZILLA DIRTY BY THE LACK OF SCREEN TIME! WE DON'T WANT HUMAN DRAMA WE WANT BIG MONSTERS FIGHTING! Also instead of Godzilla having like 8 minutes of screentime, its should be like 15 mins or smth 4: The fights: I don't really have a problem with Godzilla vs Scylla so that fight was fire, but one thing for sure is, why did they have Godzilla kill Tiamat so quick? They could have had like an epic 4 or 5 min fight or smth, The egypt fight was fair even though it could have beed a bit longer tbh, and the final battle should have been like 10-20 mins 5: Respect for characters: If Kong is getting so much respect, why not Godzilla? Hes like the star of the Monsterverse, but giving Kong the respect he got, then give it to Godzilla bro Meh but anyways i LOVE this movie! It's so fire! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I give it a solid 10/10 not as good as KOTM but still really good! 👌🏻
Pink is certainty stronger than supercharged 2019 and ghidorah by extension. Could even be stronger than thermo, but they didn't eve bother making him LOOK stronger. We don't even get any on-screen feats to suggest that he's stronger than base FFS
Jared has said he has no authority or anything that goes on throughout the MV and says he gets no information on anything and CLEARLY says that everything he says is PURELY SPECULATIVE. But yeah go ahead be the goon you are and use them anyway.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812people underestimate almost every aspect about Jared to the point its disgusting. People have openly enjoyed the fact that he got no mention in the credits (because he didn’t even though he designed basically every mf). This vid is straight facts, the evidence is solid and unbiased. I think u should make an MV top 10 or at least add it to the list of vids you plan to make in the future.
The Novel stated Godzilla evolved is twice as strong as he was before he goes into Tiamat's liar. Means he is twice as strong as his Blue Thermo form, who was already a "less extreme" version of Thermo. Even stronger in his "supercharged state". That 100× times stronger statement was confirmed Hyperbole by Greg Keyes. And Jared Kirchvesky didn't count since he also said Evo is stronger than Burning in his oppinion. Ghidorah didn't die and Godzilla didn't die, since Shimo isn't the type of Titan that kills directly, even if she could.
I don't understand how you took the 2x stronger than Base goji as fact when The proof that you showed was a hype statement and you said that you don't take hype statements as fact.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 not what I meant 💀 pretty sure Evo is stronger than base but I just don't understand why u took the 2x statement as fact.
i dont even know why people say thermo beats evolved like its clear he right there he disintegrated ghidorah and people still say it step up your game evolved fanboys
If we are saying shimo is compared to ghidorah, and base goji can damage ghidorah And shimo takes no damage against an amped goji That means your pushing for base being stronger then evo?💀
Base could only hurt a weakened Ghidorah. When Ghidorah was at his own full strength he was fighting an amped Godzilla in Boston-with the energy amount of both being compared by the book writer so.... Also Evolved is only 2x base that's REALLY not a big power up
Ahh yes, base goji hurting a weakened Ghidorah is equal to Shimo "taking no damage" (she literally had claw marks, bruises and burn marks all over her but anyways), gimme a break 😂
Monarch has readings on Thermo They literally say in the Movie: ‘12 Minutes until he goes Thermonuclear’ simple as that This changes everything Spiral > Thermo Shimo > Amped Ghidorah
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 1. And meaning they have readings on Thermo and the quote from Evolved Godzilla when he overloaded still prevails as consistent, as they already had the readings of what Godzilla would become. This becomes more consistent with this other quote, just as Godzilla was about to enter critical mass, his limit for summary Burning Godzilla 2. Hard ignorance nothing else, Mothra was almost dead and had no power left she was barely flying what power is she gonna add none except from stabilizing him
Ghidorah has no defense against the freezing of shimo which can freeze atoms. Godzilla was forced to evolve since he did not believe he could beat Shimo unlike Ghidorah.
Shimo has no defense against beams that blast through Godzilla's armor, let alone her already damaged lesser armor. He couldn't beat Ghidorah either-not without power ups and help. So what's your point?
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Godzilla defeated Ghidorah in the past, it is also assumed that he could have defeated him in the open sea and Godzilla was never forced to evolve against him. Shimo is a titan with an absolute zero attack and Ghidorah was already frozen, it is obvious who would win Shimo was able to freeze Greenland almost instantly, he can enter the world into an ice age, and his FrostBite Blast (that is, his equivalent to atomic breath) in the novel is described as an absolute zero since it can stop atoms.
@@TheRexZ7961 Wrong. Godzilla AND Shimo beat Ghidorah. Together. Godzilla was forced to evolve. Almost like he got a huge power up in Boston and still LOST. Yeah the one who can destroy the entire planet, a much stronger being than the one who'd just cover it in ice.
I swear i think Kong fans probably only watched the egypt fight up to the part where Kong dazed Godzilla, then went on their phones and started spamming Godzilla fans with stuff like "KoNg BeAt GoDzIlLa In EgYpT fIgHt" and missed the part where Godzilla had his foot on Kong's chest and was about to kill him. Kong fanboys are on another level of stupidity.
@@OvkenI didn’t mind it, but it definitely could have been better. The 4 MV movies before it had phenomenal CGI and so this was the only movie that didn’t. Hopefully the next movie will have it decent tho.
@@Ovken first of all, chill tf out. I’m just giving my opinion on the CGI without saying it was objective, which doesn’t mean it’s objectively bad. And yes, I’d be happy to give a few scenes where the CGI definitely wasn’t up to date. 1. The scene where Godzilla is waking up from the colosseum. The way the camera zooms in on his body shows that the CGI was terrible, especially when it’s at his head. It adds a motion blur also just to make it look more realistic. 2. During the final battles (hollow earth and Rio), the CGI on Kong and Godzilla are also not good. The way they move with agility and keep throwing each other around with weak CGI doesn’t add any realism to the fight. 3. The Godzilla vs. Scylla fight also had Godzilla moving around and jumping around to the point where it didn’t feel real. These monsters move around as if they’re normal humans and don’t have any weight. Even GvK had the monsters move like this but made it more smooth by adding more realistic CGI. There is no excuse for the CGI in this movie to be low quality. Right before you comment saying, “You’re just another shitty GxK hater” I’d like to note that I did in fact, really enjoy the movie and thought it was great. But that’s not to say it was without flaws. And if you don’t believe my points, go and watch the scenes yourself. Again, I’m not saying the movie was terrible. Stop glazing for the sake of glazing.
@@Ovken even if the CGI was good, It’s nothing compared to the CGI of the previous Monsterverse movies, Avatar, Pirates of the Caribbean, and many more movies. If you’re the one saying I am “delusional” for thinking the CGI is bad, then my friend, go watch some of the movies and prove to me how GxK has the greatest CGI in the history of the MV.
Can you make a video scaling the full potential of Monsterverse Burning Godzilla based on what we saw him doing in King Of The Monsters and on how much power you think the Monsterverse will allow Godzilla to tap into compared to his strongest Toho counterparts ( most notably Heisei Godzilla)? I don't want to he Heisei biased, but I don't expect much from it, however I would like to hear your thoughts.
I love how you address the statements about Jared saying his words aren’t reliable And then proceed to only show one of the statements and not the other one where he says directly that he has no authority over anything
@@Shinghidorah-ms6zihe can’t lmao. He himself said he has no authority on the monsterverse and it’s canon. Such as the powerlevel of the creatures, etc.
@@44sAtomique even some authors in the monsterverse still give authority to designers over themselves. I mean if he dosent have authority who else does. He still designed their looks and powers and gave them every unique ability they had. He should have some authority at least in kaijus power level
Alot of missed information on your part Godzillas energy directly correlates with his power stated all throughout the mv meaning if his energy capacity is increased and can hold more than he van exert more. You have no way of knowing if monarch got readingings of burning or not but the osprey was close to him when he turned burning so it is a possibility. On page 290 and they literally say no one has ever seen readings like these putting him above supercharged 2019 then on 291 hampton an expert on godzilla says she feared an explosion like that in boston talking about burning clearly they had some readings and knowlege on burning and are saying this form is similar to that power
uhm the ''capitacy'' means ''the maximum amount that something can contain.'' ''the amount that something can produce.'' or '' the ability to hold or contain.'' and the novel stated that evolved godzilla is stronger then his base forms meaning stronger then g2019 and g2021 and was stated to be stronger then thermo form and another thing is in the novel it stated that the evo godzilla supercharged spiral heat ray or just normal one was stronger then thermo godzilla pulses so evo solos thermo godzilla
I’m gonna be short movie was slightly disappointing some good moments, no tension, not great or intimidating villains, also for some reason which maybe some people feel different but I felt like the monsters had no weight to them like I didn’t feeling like I’m watching 99,000 ton Godzilla and I don’t mean running or jumping I’m fine with that I’d give the movie a generous 6/10 One of my buddies gave it a 4/10
First off we don’t know if they teamed up to fight Ghidorah, you yourself said it’s speculative. In other words all we know is Shimo froze Ghidorah, nothing else, they haven’t confirmed if it’s been retconned so it’s left at that. Second of all literally every statement saying Ghidorah was Goji’s biggest threat was BEFORE SHIMO was ever made as a character. And the whole bigger threat thing, isn’t allat. It’s quite obvious Shimo isn’t a mean creature, that’s why the cast say she was being overhyped, because they thought all that power would come from an evil creature when really it’s an overgrown puppy dog. You also forget that Shimo is directly compared to Ghidorah as the novel states she is the FIRST to make Godzilla a middleweight in a heavyweight fight. Now if you watch combat sports you’ll know the difference, and their’s a reason why they put weight classes. And if you watched the extras they said it would be a fun idea if IT WAS ACTUALLY Shimo who froze Ghidorah. “Actually” is referring to the fact that an idea has been replaced, the idea that Godzilla “froze” Ghidorah. By saying actually they’ve basically said it WAS Godzilla who did the deed but now we think it’s Shimo. They wanted to use the idea of Shimo freezing Ghidorah to set a tone, to show us how powerful this thing is (said in their own words). Buuuut that’s not that impressive if she teamed with Goji. Ghidorah and Goji are repeatedly stated equals with advantage Ghidorah, they are relative and as evo I expect him to surpass Ghidorah. Done with this long ass post.
Yeah, no. The special features confirmed that her and Godzilla both fought Ghidorah. Irrelevant, Shimo was already made by 2022 and statements of Ghidorah's dominance only vanish last year and Legendary hasn't even said anything in official releases. That comment is only made because of their size-Godzilla was literally dominating her during that portion of the fight in Hollow Earth. No, Godzilla being "replaced" is bullshit. Not only does more canon material state otherwise but the film itself very clearly shows Godzilla and Ghidorah fighting multiple times in various cave paintings. We know for a fact Godzilla knocked him into that ocean, Shimo freezing him after that contradicts nothing and if anything covers the plot hole of how Ghidorah just froze. Too bad, their tone failed. They're never actually stated equal. Ghidorah even fresh out of Shimo and Godzilla battle literally beats 2019 Godzilla with mild difficulty at best. The same base Godzilla only being stated to have "a hard time" fighting Shimo in the commentary. Dougherty made it clear Godzilla was losing that first fight, that Ghidorah was stronger than him. Godzilla's only relative to Ghidorah after becoming so powerful he'd explode-confirmed the same level of power he used when evolved and using the spiral beam.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812how they teamed you don’t even mentioned extras in the video, rather you say it’s all speculative which literally means it’s not confirmed at all. It does not matter how logical you think it is, it’s not confirmed and therefore cannot be used to justify canonical rankings@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812Basically asking the greatest boxer of all time when Sugary Ray Robinson was still alive but someone justify someone else because they were considered the best when Mr. Ray wasn’t even in boxing yet. @@godzillakingofthemonsters5812Serizowa confirms they are equal in the KOTM Novel.@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 And just to note the specific Godzilla v Ghidorah situation: shit can change, no matter how ridiculous. Take LoTM or even KOTM and how it completely changed the 2014 design. We know they fought in the ancient past, that’s undeniable, but it’s now apparent Shimo was the one to truely beat him. If you want to get speculative I doubt Shimo was even there. If you want to keep both into account it’s stated that Ghidorah froze in the ice age, something Shimo could have done from anywhere. She’s also not a fighter at all, Skar likely made her fight.
Evolved Goji>Thermo which is a fact. But I agree on most of the things you said, but Evolved Goji would slam Ghidorah in kotm. Kotm Goji’s base isn’t even that strong compared to his GXK base or even GVK base, and his “amped about to go thermo form” was compareable to GVK Goji’s base and GXK base Goji had surpassed GVK Goji, he then absorbs the nuclear reactor going “thermo again” now surpassing his already stated “to be the strongest base form ever” and then evolved getting 2X stronger within every combat aspect aswell as having 20X energy capacity. I mean, it’s pretty clear Goji’s scaling is above Ghidorah’s now unless they was to meet again, Ghidorah would then have stored enough engery to face the now MUCH STRONGER Godzilla. But as of now within the story both Shimo and Godzilla is above Ghidorah even if the statements are they are but you can also debunk them. And also as of now Godzilla would still be the strongest Kaiju within the MV. It should also be noted that Shimo probably didn’t fight Ghidorah with Goji, I think she caused the ice age which is why Ghidorah was so easily frozen but Goji defeated him.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812LMAO No I just read it back and never did I contradict myself I was confused to ehat you meant before but saying GVK base>Kotm base isn’t wrong LMAO it even states he was stronger in GVK
But what about the statement that Wingard made that says that Evovled is stronger then ever before And I think if Jared said that his opinion is not official or confirmed that means it’s pure speculation And the book even tells that Godzilla always had power ups before a fight even in the ancient times so he fought Shimo and Ghidorah with power ups and as you said Ghidorah was scorched by Godzilla’s atomic breath while Shimo is said to be on power with him if not dominating him in there ancient which placed 1000 years ago and Ghidorah also had help of other titans bc Ghidorah was the alpha And fact that Shimo can also gets powerful with Geo thermal energy which Godzilla also consumes It is safe to say that if Ghidorah can get ampes then Shimo can too Shimo was also holding back during there fight in Rio bc she didn’t wanted to fight anyone she was doing it bc of Skar So we can say she would most likely beat Ghidorah and can also beat Amp Ghidorah Also Ghidorah’s most abilities would not come in work bc of Shimo’s absolute Zero means Regeneration wouldn’t even be a thing for Ghidorah So in my Opinion Shimo beats Ghidorah I know the video was quite early so maybe you missed some of this info Thanks
He never said that? All he said was Godzilla went on a training montage and bulked up. Kinda vague words. Yeah not so fast. Nothing aside from a single Adam statement implies Godzilla powered up before, and even then he said maybe. Funny, we see Godzilla overpowering Shimo in a clash of beams and the image of her being blasted is her howling in pain. Given the amount of scars she has in modern times, it appears Godzilla messed her up too. And she can't heal. Except nothing, at all, states Shimo can increase in power. Ghidorah can. Mid fight. And insanely quickly. Shimo was not holding back. Quite the opposite, she'd be doing anything to make the pain stop. Shimo was literally whipped into submission, learning her place was under Godzilla which is why she obeys his command to kill Skar. So no she's below Ghidorah and amp Ghidorah is unfair. This was all addressed and debunked in the video, and nothing of note came out since.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Shimo was able to fight on par with His Evolved Godzilla, who was stated to be 2 times more powerful than his original form (The 20x statement was for energy capacity) Ghidorah was being slaughtered by Supercharged Gojira (The Novel said that) and I'd say Evolved is 2x stronger because of him taking the biggest source of energy on the planet, plus The Powerplant which would make The Statement correct. For the people who try to argue that Shimo tanked a beam that was stronger than the pulses that killed Ghidorah, that's just wrong. More radiation does not equal to more power. Even if it did, we don't know how much more radiation Godzilla took, it could've been even more than the 20x energy capacity Evolved has. Shimo's beam is more powerful than Ghidorah's IMO since it can freeze opponents on the spot, while Ghidorah's could only knock Godzilla over.
@@ThorOdinson-zm8hf The movie directly showed otherwise. And whenever they conflict the novel author has gone on record multiple times to say the films have final say. So Ghidorah was fighting equally with Boston amped Godzilla, and no, even after the power plant Godzilla had power above what Evolved had. Ghidorah's bites and beams tore through Godzilla's skin easily, we see chunks of him missing and he's covered in fresh scars. Shimo was incapable of damaging Evolved much, despite canonically losing muscle mass, fat and being shown if anything to be physically weaker. Kong, Mothra and Shimo all easily dealt with his physical prowess with Kong still being stated below his base form in strength. Her ice beam is on par with his atomic breath, which Ghidorah blasted through in Antarctica. Clearly Ghidorah takes beam power. Shimo's only graces in the fight are durability and quick freezing. She is outclassed in every other way.
@@jashinahmed1493you know it’s actually true Godzilla which was amped by power plant is indeed stronger then Evolved, movie also shows it quite clearly
I don’t know about you but this type of stuff kind of seems like it only happens like 30 or 20 years ago when the Internet didn’t really exist, yet we are still grasping at basic stuff that the film crew can basically just say yes or no.
frogot to mention but godzilla in gxk the new empire absorbed nuclear reactors or plants that produce more radiation/energy&fusion then nuclear weapons and that made godzilla become blue supercharged or blue thermo idk how strong is the blue form but thermo became thermo bc of a nuke so godzilla by absorbing nuclear reactors is stronger so evo>>>>thermo
@@KaijuGameplayTv6592First of all, nukes contain way more radiation than a power plant, Godzilla was literally over flowing with energy to the point where he was going to EXPLODE. French goji was nowhere near that level. Secondly, ur terrible grammar and the fact you call burning “thermo” confirms you are a Roblox kid, completely invalidating any argument you make.
@@Nobody-sp5wx lol you all are clowns and idiots XD go search on google do nuclear plants or reactors having more radiation then nukes also here is some statements on reactors = ''This is one of the differences between nuclear weapons and nuclear reactors-nuclear reactors can build up fission fragments over a much longer period of time so they will have more radioactivity in the core than a nuclear weapon will produce.'' and Nuclear reactors produce more radioactive fission products than nuclear weapons. also people call it ''thermo'' not bc they are roblox kids lmao but bc if mv godzilla was called burning there would be a confusion bc there cant be 2 godzilla's called '''burning godzilla'''' if it was that way people will confuse both gojis if you say burning godzilla is stronger then burning gozilla, no one would understand it and thermo is fodder his pusles made some buildings stand also novel stated that evolved godzilla is stronger then all his forms and his atomic breath being stronger then thermo pulses
@@Nobody-sp5wx listen lil bro First of all, nukes don't have way more radiation then powerplants also I said ''nuclear reactors'' or ''nuclear plants'' and the nuclear reactors have way more radiation&fusion and energy then nuclear weapons aka nukes go google it dump@ass and whats wrong with thermo? i don't get it lol, everyone says mv godzilla ''burning form'' is thermo bc if everyone called it burning godzilla then people would get confused and think you are talking about heisei godzilla not mv lets just say if it was called burning then we would get 2 godzilla called ''burning godzilla's'' and confusion would happen.
I always wanted to believe burning was stronger, hes just so badass. Im glad someone else agrees with me! Not that I dont like Evolved Godzilla, but its got nothing on a molten god
i knew thermo was better than supercharged evolved, but he wasn't even full power?! heh. now i can make the supercharged evolved strongest form of godzilla sound like complete nonsense
Yes this is true, meaning the next film will hopefully be on the level of pre gvk quality. Especially considering with how he wrote the original script, he seems to understand Godzilla pretty well.
All it takes is a single statement that says “nobody has seen readings like these” your so mad that Kotm Godzilla isn’t his strongest Verizon. A literal man child🤭🤭
wait it evolved is only 2x stronger in base, does that make boston and francegoji better? since burning is the strongest and ghidorah second, where do bostongoji, francegoji, evolved, supercharged evolved, and shimo stand?
France's measured energy level is comparable to Evolved before he finished feeding, so there's a pretty good shot. Boston is stated to have much more power in the novel so that one for sure.
@@Ovken “ghidorah doesn’t feed on radiation” we literally see him suck Godzilla’s radiation😭. Do you have Netflix? If so go rewatch the film cuz you can’t even remember half of the film. Ghidorah is stated to be weakened in the novelisation and it makes sense since he’s literally trapped in ice for thousands of years after being wounded by Godzilla and maybe mothra and rodan
But did you actually like Godzilla x Kong? Idk I’m just curious and what would you rate it compared to the other monsterverse movie what’s your favourite one out of the monsterverse movies?
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 like I said there’s nothing wrong with having your own opinion. I just think GxK is my favourite MV film, I think that it gets me hyped if you get what I mean. To me it’s the main reason why I go to the movie theatres. Also keep up the good work 👍🏽
New sub btw, goodness world wars be happening left and right 💀Anyways which Goji fanbase would you consider the worst? A. Showa B. Heisei C. Millennium D. MonsterVerse E. Anime(Gojira Earth)
I like how everyone is like"But they said Evolved Godzilla is stronger!!!", man even freaking Goji Center says that the new form isn't 20x stronger, only able to store more energy, yeah GxK fans even Goji Center, FDA and KOTM disagree with your statements of Evolved Godzilla being the most powerful being in the Monsterverse.
If you are talking about Godzilla himself then yes until idk maybe Destoroyah shows up, because Wingard did say Destoroyah would show up. Now if you are talking about his forms, then it depends on whether or not Evolved will get even more powerful than Burning Godzilla, for now it is debatable until Wingard says who is stronger, because the authors of the Novelization also aren't really sure if Evolved is stronger than Burning. We'll just have to wait for Adam Wingard's words.
@@marcosviniciusdossantos2402 Currently, Supercharged Evolved is actually part of his base form (since evolved is a new base form and super charged is his own power) is stronger than base Ghidorah and Shimo
@@Magic_Squid I know, but until someone like Destoroyah shows up, Godzilla might need to evolve further than just that to win, plus this is not even a fully Evolved Godzilla as even Jared says that Godzilla did not finish evolving.
I always thought when i heard "capacity" in the film was stored energy. Like he can use his breath more. And never tire. But i didnt know guidorah was still pretty strong. Like everyone else i was thinking shimo was just the new big kaiju on the block
Not including Fw and gmk, name one time where godzilla fought ghidorah he didn’t have help,a boost/a power up,or just straight up jumped ghidorah and before you say heisei he had a boost in power that made him bigger and stronger before he fought ghidorah meaning if that was Heisei godzilla before Godzilla vs king ghiodrah king ghidorah would’ve won. Showa has jumped Ghidorah countless times Earth needed help from humans to beat void ghidorah and Mv godzilla had a boost + help from humans + a boost from mothra to beat ghidorah
Yeah, but that's pretty excusable when you consider the fact that Ghidorah's a literal planet destroying space alien whose alien biology is probably going to grant him some overpowered ass win cons. MV Ghidorah is a good example as his insane regen and energy absorption are basically enough win cons for him to beat any opponent that rivals him in pure strength. Also, his armor basically being made of gold instead of any old regular hide should also explain his OP durability. So yeah, Ghidorah being overpowered is really justifiable when you look at it from a certain standpoint.
Evolved: Faster, thicker skin, stronger atomic breath, better energy storage so overload is unlikely. While physically seems weaker and he's a complete moron, he's got more edges
So can we assume that a Supercharged Evolved Godzilla vs Full Powered Ghidorah would be a very even showdown, resulting in Godzilla eventually winning but collapsing due to exhaustion, until he finds the strength to stand up on his feet like he did in G14?
SC Evolved vs Nuke Amp G19 would very a hard fight although I believe Nuke amp constantly growing stronger would be a win con and should give him the W. SC Evolved vs Base Ghidorah would also be a hard fight although Ghidorah’s regeneration and energy absorption should list him win
The power of the Thermonuclear lies in its temperature and ability to release Godzilla's supercharge of nuclear energy in the form of heat energy The x20 increase of the Evolved Godzilla can function as a catalyst for the supercharge from solar storms and Tiamat's DNA to evolve. As we know, "Capacity" refers to the maximum amount that something can contain or produce This may mean that in his Evolved form he can use the extra energy for himself (improving his physical capabilities like longer arms, better locomotion when running or jumping or melee combat, being much more agile and versatile than in his previous versions or an increase in atomic breath power) and not having to release it and explode as in his Thermonuclear Form, where his stats don't change too much, even the GKTOM novel states that Thermonuclear was extremely injured and tired; but the enormous amount of energy it releases is what makes it more dangerous. In my opinion Godzilla Evolved is more powerful, but Godzilla Thermonuclear is more dangerous/lethal
i still dont get how thermo can burn buildings with walking but not with an pulse (it doesnt make scence or does that mean the presense is hotter than the pulse?)
It felt more like watching a "fun" game playthrough than anything serious. So its hard to say as to how strong something is to be able to compare it with something else bc of how goofy it all is
@@Username-Asset_54 you're the one who's crying first "Gxk scaling isn't a big deal" Then whyd you reply to a guy who thinks gxk scaling is a big deal? You should've shut your mouth up if you think that.
I can get behind Thermo > Evo, but ill never understand Amped 2019 > Evo lmao, the whole point of Evo Godzilla is that hes been amping himself up through any means necessary, while includes going to the LARGEST STOCKPILE OF ENERGY ON THE PLANET. unless youre meaning to tell me one Nuclear Warhead is more energy potent than literal magnetic solar flares
You think solar flares are all that? Especially when they reach the Earth and lost a fuckload of their energy from the Sun? Especially when said nuke blew a hole right to the Hollow Earth, literal thousands of miles of seabed, mantle and crust kaboom and that's what Godzilla munched on-and then the New Empire book reveals he got MORE before heading to Boston. And it's not just a static amp-Godzilla was getting STRONGER mid fight to the point he'd EXPLODE The only statement for Evolved that even COMPARES to that is when he uses the spiral beam which is confirmed to be his maximum.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 it's directly stated to be the biggest radiation stockpile on earth so that would immediately put it above anything previously, including all nuclear bombs, nuclear reactors and possibly the entire hollow earth itself. Also Evolved Godzilla doesn't go to explode like kotm Nuke Godzilla because he simply stores far more energy.
@@rjsblanket3024 The relevant nukes were used against Ghidorah, so that means nothing, and base Godzilla in GvK compared to Hollow Earth already, who's a LOT weaker than his 2019 self.
Shimo and ghidorah have equal strength feats. We saw shimo YEET kong and kick godzilla through Rio de Janeiro. And we saw ghidorah lifting godzilla up Into the sky/atmosphere, also we saw that ghidorah Pushed godzilla backwards into a hole with his beams With basically zero energy as he had just woke up (This is a theory not head cannon)
@@Pistachio-Man also ghidorah could lift godzilla's whole body with just his three heads, this happens when ghidorah starts to drain godzilla of his energy in kotm, so yeah i think they should be about relative in physical strength
im not being a monsterverse godzilla glazer, but the title of the video made me think of those 40 year old dads of 2 who think that hesei godzilla can wipe out the entire omniverse and not be tired
I only have a low res copy of the book if anyone's got a better one tell me where to get it.
I could've also been an asshole and brought up how the movie shows jackshit good feats to back up ANY of Shimo's hype and as a direct refutation to any pink>Burning AP claims but I didn't think I needed to.
And yeah I'm calling out bastards riding the hype train against actual information.
I wish we saw more of the E Godzilla vs Shimo fight but it was such a Kong centric movie
Sorry but Godzilla x Kong we see in the film absorbs irradiation from a nuclear power plant that means he is more powerful than before also Evolved Godzilla he is 20 times stronger they can have a lot of power stock than before in addition , he is no longer infected by ice or heat, that’s why he is more powerful than burning Godzilla also from Shimo. Evolves Godzilla >>>>>>>>>>>buring Godzilla Evolves Godzilla >>>>>>>>>>shimo
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@@GhilesGhilasseGolDRoger first of all, how in the actual fuck would absorbing energy from one power plant put him above burning. second, E goji isn't twenty times stronger, he addresses in the video (which you pretty clearly did not watch). third, Goji is not immune to ice, he literally frozen by shimo in the movie. Fourthly what the fuck is a "Godzilla Evolves Godzilla"?
@@thatoneguyontheinternet7749 firstly I saw the video i don’t agree and more proof than that, and secondly you didn’t see the film correctly because it’s said in the film adaptive capacity, do you know read? Plus he freed himself alone, I don’t think he can do that before evolving. And third month it’s a nuclear power plant not an electric power plant, sorry i don’t understand what are you saying?
and people still sit here and say "evo > thermo" like shimo and ghidorah aren't relative yet thermo atomized him and evo didn't even dent shimo....
Wow FDA approved
Even FDA approved, it’s over for shitmo glazers
Shimo is not weak
Shimo is the goat 🐐
For real. Nice to see some people got sense.
@@Fog-ys2nb FDA approved is a Nick name
No matter how well this video is said, people are too stubborn to listen to reason.
By the way, what happened to that little troll? I haven't seen his comments lately.
Thats how glazing works
what troll?
@@Godzillaminusone70 the guy who says legendary beats every TOHO Godzilla.
@@uhh345 do you know how little that narrows it down for me.
The same could be said for heisei fanboys
Let's just hope Godzilla's next fearsome evolution(and this movies box office) will grant him decent looking cgi
the cgi aint that bad tbh
@@AbandonedAccount4it’s not too bad but it’s definitely more of a downgrade compared to the last movie. Especially the Antarctic scene
@@Nightlizard1564 agree
@@AbandonedAccount4 Yes it is
CGI is fine yall tweaking
Very good video.
I'm glad I discovered your channel while debating with someone who said I was just repeating your arguments.
Thank you
Evolved is the most glazed form of this Godzilla we’ve seen yet, people are putting him on Thermo scale with no proof or evidence. He’s featless when faced with movie speculations, and all he has to say that he’s powerful are statements. Statements, that are constantly misinterpreted or have nothing to do with him > Thermo. An atomic breath should do even more than a pulse with logic. The pulse is used to cover a larger surface area and all the energy is not directed at one area as an atomic breath does. An atomic breath has all the energy concentrated on one specific area, if the atomic breath of SC Evolved was even comparable to Thermo’s pulse, it would’ve put a hole right through Skar King and Shimo.
Shin still exists so Evolved still ain't all that
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 I said *this* Godzilla
Thank god someone knows this. Ive seen so many people say Shimo 1 taps Ghidorah, Evolved beats Burning etc. And its very annoying when people say stuff like that.
Edit: Also seen people say Kong with BEAST Glove beats KOTM Godzilla
Same. Kong fans are on a different level of stupidity
power creep is crazy
@@MVandHeiseiGojiKing2019I agree with what you said.
Saying them having a good fight is better than saying one tap
@@Alzilla09 thx
Thanks for finally saying it. This isn’t anything new though. I still remember when people said Godzilla 2000 is now the most powerful G and Orga the most deadliest kaiju he’s faced.
Orga would be 1st most powerful. And still is to this day. Besides void ghidorah. Orga is the strongest ever. Miregoji is still the strongest imo.
So Orga is stronger than destroyah and all the iterations of ghidorah?
@@kingkaijuboygodjira3116 so, why do you think Orga is the most powerful enemy and miregoji the most powerful g
@@Yoeary45 Nope, though one could make a case for him being above GMK Ghidorah with a LOT of wanking. But at the time in 1999, people's recency bias made them believe he was the strongest kaiju of all time, simply due to having more advanced VFX.
@@DiogenesofMashad 💀 imagine needing to be wank a lot just to be above the weakest incarnation of ghidorah besides shin ghidorah
From the stuff I’ve seen you type, I didn’t expect you to sound so chill 😅
“Because kong land 20 blows on goji”
In the movie:
Kong: WHAT WILL YOU HAVE AFTER 500 YEARS
Irl:
Godzilla: standing here, i realize
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@@yautjamorph_ thx lol
Dude, really thanks for the education from your videos. It helps with future powerscaling.
Space Godzilla is literally me
(He negs everyone in this movie)
Yep
Space Godzilla would make the MV his personal bitch.
Fax
Space godzilla is just super godzilla but with minerals :-\
Thanks for the information in the video I can use it for my own stop motion movies later on
You're welcome
So btw for “shimo freezing ghidorah” She did it by accident, She was freezing the planet and Godzilla and Mothra yes they were both fighting ghidorah, Managed to hold him down long enough for him to freeze, So shimo kind of froze him but not really
There's nothing to say it was an "accident"
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Heard someone saying she was causing an ice age at the time this was happening. Hense an accident
Granted I don’t know why goji didn’t retaliate on her, Maybe he could be a reason skar king gained control over her
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 what exactly does it say, if it just implies she somehow froze Ghidorah then from what we can put together, since Micheal Dougherty AND a guidebook only says Godzilla and Ghidorah fought and Godzilla won, then it could be implied that when she started the ice age sometime in the past when Godzilla shot Ghidorah into the water he froze over quickly due to her ice age not because she directly froze him
@@Ovken Inbred monkey when it was very clearly stated
So as the novel says Ghidorah when charging up from the Power grid can’t keep the power in so he let it go releasing a death blow means he would return to base form right ?
And if this is true then what would be the take on Jared statement saying Shimo and Ghidorah are relative meaning Spiral > Shimo = Ghidorah
And as you said that Shimo and Godzilla work together to beat Ghidorah is speculative so as the same way isn’t Shimo sniping Ghidorah a speculation
And also the fact that Shimo was not at her full power at all obviously bc she was enslaved and tortured, a full powered Shimo would most likely be above Base Ghidorah Although I do say that we don’t know if Shimo can get power ups or not but I think it’s worth addressing
I do think Ghidorah would win by just getting amps and backing off if he feels weaker and his Battle IQ and abilities are far superior to Shimo
Also I would say Nuke amp is above base Ghidorah cause on screen he was always shown to be the superior of the two and if Nuke and spiral are equal as Jared says then it would put him above Base Ghidorah
So as of now I do admit Ghidorah and Nuke amp are above Shimo and Spiral by quite a margin
This Proves that Statements are not above what we see on Screen
Love the video and the Effort
Also what do you think about Chronic’s GXK video
No it says he was charging up and couldn't contain his rage anymore.
I don't think Shimo's ever noted to be weakened, like at all.
Nuked was taking much more damage in the battle though and Evolved is physically inferior.
I could see Shimo beating base Ghidorah despite him being stronger
Pretty bad actually. Lotta headcanon.
I agree with your points, the consistency checks out. However that raises a few questions I would like your opinion on. In the fight where Godzilla takes Ghidorah into the water, would you say Godzilla is stronger then, as base but in the water than pink would be out of the water, or would Ghidorah just have gotten that much of a nerf while he's in the water? probably a bit of both, but that raises another question. do you think Tiamat could beat Ghidorah if they had a fight in the water?
I take it that Godzilla's death rolls just output more damage than his normal attacks. Bites and claw swipes didn't really bug Ghidorah even AFTER Godzilla got the nuke.
I think Ghidorah's still too powerful for Tiamat to really do much about even in her home turf.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Ghidorah in water is in major trouble. The storms provide an electric shield that runs thru it's bio nuclear body. Godzilla ripped Ghidorah apart with ease in the water. Ghidorah can't pull any electricity from it's storms awhile under water. I'm sure Godzilla could really damage Ghidorah with his stomic ray if both are under water due to Ghidorah not having that electric shield to protect it.
@@tedunseth3966
Since when was literally any of this stated or even remotely implied? Ghidorah's storm doesn't provide him any type of "shield" whatsoever, Godzilla ripping apart or harming Ghidorah underwater is just due to the fact that Godzilla is a better combatant underwater to the point where he has the leverage necessary so that he can effectively deliver major damage to Ghidorah. Ghidorah's never had any type of "shield", Godzilla just can't rip into him like he did in the ocean fight because he regularly can't gain that type of advantage against Ghidorah anywhere outside of the ocean.
@@tedunseth3966
Where did you find this information if you don't mind me asking?
@@AidenPlayz27-r3v When Ghidorah awakes in Antarctica the first thing we see is his storms form as soon as he awakes and is freed from the Ice. You actually hear the thunder and lightning. Ghidorah fires his gravity beams from his storms. All that energy from the storms due to his bioelectrical biology do provide him protection. A cat 6 is a lot of energy.
You have to get upclose to do some damage on him. It knew it was toast when Godzilla had hold of him at sea. Godzilla was able to rip his head off with ease.
I agree that outside the ocean that Ghidorah is in a lot better position to avoid being ripped apart. It seemed that Godzilla was in bad shape from his bionuclear reactor that was going to implode. That is why he seemed to lose some steam. He needed to release and needed Mothra.
It makes sense that we see Kong actually put up a far better fight at sea than Ghidorah could. Kong was able to immobolize Goji by grabbing his arms. Kong has strong arms awhile Ghidorah doesn't have any. His wings would be quite heavy under water.
Yeah Evo never felt that much stronger
Also you should do a 1954 goji scaling video or one on destoroyah (weirdly he is said to be weaker than spacegodzilla and super mg by many fans for some reason)
He did Minus one vs 1954 which is close enough for now.
Yeah fans are morons even tho the feats and narrative and statements say otherwise lol Destoroyah is confirmed the strongest and can back it up.
That’s what I’m saying. Like they say it’s a lot more powerful than thermonuclear but at the same time they didn’t do a good job at actually showcasing that.
Dest is gonna be eating some ice cream soon enough
So dest lands one good damaging hit on burning godzilla and all of a sudden he's every toho fans biggest sugar daddy... I truly do not get it.
@@CypherGodzilla mv gets one op statement and every mv fans start hyping his ass,I truly do not get it
They said she is "something on the level of Monster Zero. Or worse." and later they said she isn't as "bad" as Ghidorah refering to her character, not their level of power as before. To make clear she is a "worldender", yet doesn't want to destroy the world like Ghidorah.
"Shimo was stronger" as EvoGoji, yet "Godzilla is doing much better in his supercharged state, but it still seemed like a toss-up". So, she is definitley "worse".
They were referring to her power, her ability.
Godzilla was objectively winning on screen so the book is wrong there.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 On screen Godzilka attacked her multiple times when she was distracted by skar king calling her to attack Kong and even then she flung him with one arm and temporarily took him out the fight.
@@rjsblanket3024he was probably taking about the spiral form
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812Objectively winning?
My friend, watch the fight again every time shimo is focused on base form evolved she is dominating him. Godzilla only gets A few good tackles(when she is distracted )and one of them leads to him being launched halfway across rio and leads him unconscious for a while in which Kong gets ragged.
Once he supercharges then he is able to match shimo and even then they are equal as said in the novel. Shimo is definitely stronger then base evo
@@DevVoid-sq4oy The novel is clearly wrong when he very directly dominated her on screen.
I'm convinced New Empire defenders don't know what unconscious actually is if you think the throw did anything to him.
Oh look here, finally, the man himself
3:07 Thank you for the facts. I have heard so many kong fans say "KoNg WaSn'T eVeN tRyInG tO kNoCk OuT gOdZiLla AnD GoDzIlLa WaS tRyInG tO kIlL kOnG" when they blatantly ignore the fact that godzilla was using no abilities and was doing nothing but using kong like a punching bag.
Heisei victims anyways
Minus one in writing Victim’s anyways.
@@Heisei_Boi200OG in goat victims anyways
@@MVandHeiseiGojiKing2019 Gojira 1954 Victim’s anyways.
@@Heisei_Boi200 OG = 1954. So yh
@@Heisei_Boi200minus one in terms of writing versus gxk is like zilla jr versus void ghidorah
Base Godzilla has planetary AP. Meanwhile evolved didn't even damage Skar King.
Womp Womp
Skar trash
Silence Shimo simp
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 silence Heisei simp
@@Godzillaplayz359 Silence insect
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Bro thinks he's commander Warf from Star Trek. He's out here saying 'You will be silent!'.
If base g19 is 10/10 in terms of power then where would you put g14, nuke boost g19, g21, base g24, supercharged g24, base pink, spiral pink and burning g19 at ?
G14-6/10
Nuked-30/10
G21-starts at 7 or 8, down to 5 by any Kong fight, probably like 2 by the Mechagodzilla fight
G24-9
French-10
Pink-20
Spiral pink-31(could be higher but nothing objective stated yet)
Burning-485/10
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 where would you rank ghidorah before and after getting the generator with the same scale (G19 is 10/10 etc).
@@Magic_Squid Base-like 15-22
Amped-100+
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812Alr thanks
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812Wait why is base G19 a 10 while base G24 a 9? Shouldn't they both be 10 since there is nothing to indicate that base G24 is weakened
When they say Shimo isn’t as bad as Ghidorah, they seem to referencing how she isn’t a malicious destroyer like Ghidorah, not that she is outright weaker
Other than that, good, video and to quote Gordon Ramsay
“Some good fucking food”
Something I will point out, that is not Burning Godzilla. That is Thermo Godzilla. Two completely different things. But anyway, I'm glad you're pointing this out. There was like 0 feats that helped to show just how strong Evo Godzilla was in comparison to any other version. Everyone keeps thinking that he gets like super massive power-ups every single movie he's in, like GvK Godzilla inherits the Thermo boosts or something, it's getting ridiculous, lol.
Thermo is not a thing. Period.
In the movie itself, when they refer to the energy that Godzilla is going to consume, they say that this energy is going to be SuperCharged, why are you saying that it only increases his resistance/stamina 20 times? What fuckking sense does that make? If they weren't referring to power then they wouldn't say anything like that
Man's is a grown man and a fankid at the same time 💀
Thanks brainlet for showing your stupidity
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 man's this passionate about power scaling 🤣
The grammar😭
Most factual and true scaling video after gxk released, I've been telling people time and time again that pink goji and Shimo would literally get cooked by thermo and they all called me a "kotm glazer" because "evolved is x20 stronger and his beam is confirmed to be more powerful than thermo's pulses ! And Shimo wasn't even phased !"
Like, mf, Shimo had visible claw markings on her belly and last time I checked the whole city wasn't melting away when evolved fired his beam.
Godzilla can't control his thermonuclear state. Evolved can hold a lot more energy. It's still the same Godzilla so why does this matter? The version of Godzilla right now is the most powerful version of the character.
@@tedunseth3966 watch the video kid, Evo gets dog walked any day of the week by thermo, it's not even a discussion, thermo exceeds his limit while Evo is always a good margin bellow halfway of his full capacity, this shouldn't be a debate
@@petroshalkos3453 Is "Kid" slang??? I would bet I'm an older kaiju fan and might be old enough to be your father. I've been a fan for 50 years.
I don't think the same character can be dog walked. Your take is that Thermo is far more destructive. The issue is that Godzilla can't hold that much energy without imploding. He needed Mothra or his was going to detonate like an atomic bomb. With the Evolved state he can carry 20x amount more energy. This means that Evolved is far more durable with 20x more energy reserve. I don't think Godzilla can do Thermo unless he's hit with another nuke and needs to release. We saw in Boston that Godzilla was very tired due to his levels hitting critical.
My point is that an Evolved Godzilla overall is superior. Prior to going Thermo he wasn't doing very well. At first he was taking the fight to Ghidorah. An Evolved Godzilla would destroy Ghidorah. He seems faster and his built shows longer arms for grapple and other advantages. We don't know if Ghidorah's electric shield would protect it(him) from Goji's atomic ray. I wouldn't be surprised if Evolved Godzilla could fire and remove a Ghidorah head and neck. I would need to check if it meant that Evolved has raised the temp in his atomic ray.
@@tedunseth3966 not really, you see, his base capacity is the equivalent of his form in the begging of gxk and begging of kotm since that is his normal peak, as both novels state, in Boston it was stated that he was already above his energy threshold and he was hurting himself as the novelization suggests, the fight went on for 8 hours using the time of day where Mady came to the football field and the time of day when Godzilla was crowned king of the monsters, and the novel also states his power was rising by the minute, essentially slowly killing himself, let me say it like this, let's take a 1x1 space within goji's body, that space has 5 radiation storing elements, evolved now has 100 radiation storing elements in that same 1x1 space, but Boston goji had more radiation within that space, leaking outside of the storage, he could still use it but it was hurting him, and would had killed him if it wasn't for mothra, evolved sure CAN be stronger, but he would also have to go a good margin above his x20 capacity since the multiplier of Boston goji was so great that people without machinery could tell the difference between moment a and moment b in terms of power, you can do the math but I won't bore you with that, so just know that by low balling and completely underestimating the multiplier and not even counting mothra's life essence and radiation, and also assuming goji was at base when he came in, which he was not, thermo's number comes in at a staggering 28-35 times his base, which exceeds evolved's maximum capacity, and even if you don't believe me let's use the statements from the novel, where only when Godzilla hit his supercharged evolved state did monarch scientists concidered that he reached a new peak of power, and that, for someone not as dedicated as you claim you are, would mean that thermo is bellow evolved, but you have to understand that the argo, which holds all of Monarch's machinery for monitoring titans, left roughly halfway through since Godzilla was reaching dangerous levels of radiation and the chances of his body giving up on him and dying were too high to risk staying, the main cast didn't have machinery or the mentality to monitor goji, so the only info monarch has on thermonuclear goji is that he was the result of goji overcharging and that it managed to kill Ghidorah, so only supercharged is above middle of Boston fight goji, meaning he is very relevant to late Boston fight goji who, surprise surprise, lost to Ghidorah, who is also the reason that an argument like "they can monitor from afar" doesn't stand since his storm hid his presence until he came significantly close to the argo on all scenarios, ofc after realizing that he was the cause they could pin point his location on the map but not monitor him, and goji was also within the storm, so there is no way these people could get any readings of thermo, so no, I don't really care how long you've been a part of this community since your lack of knowledge doesn't change, Godzilla evolved is leuges bellow thermo in almost every single category, cope with it.
@@petroshalkos3453 I was actually enjoying your response until the last few sentences about you acting like a child. What are you bipolar? You went from being civil to an idiot. What am I coping about? Do you know how stupid that sounds?
It's in your opinion that Thermo is more powerful then Evolved. I agree that once he went Thermo that it was peak level for Godzilla. Evolved is more stable and more powerful then the version that fought Ghidorah in Boston and Kong in Hong Kong outside of Thermo state.
The only reason Godzilla was losing to Ghidorah was because he was in bad shape from over heating(simple terms). His readings were going up. It's like starting a fight and 10 min later your fighting with a fever. It's going to weaken you. The fight between Godzilla and Ghidorah was 12 minutes because he finally went Thermo and incinerated Ghidorah reclaiming his crown back as King of the Surface Titans or KOTM at that time of the MV.
I never said "Thermo wasn't peak for Godzilla". Evolved is a more powerful version of Godzilla in general. He can't stay in Thermo. Why? HE WOULD DIE. Make sense? Godzilla powered up because it was a greater threat that almost killed him.
You can act civil or act like a typical teenager. The only person that seems worked up over a simple conversation is "YOU". Claiming to tell other people that they lack knowledge to strengthen your take is called manipulation. Not Facts. I've been a fan of ALL these characters/Kaiju for along time. What you read on, I actually lived it. I grew up on the playground debate over Godzilla/King Kong. You have NO clue how special this MV is for older generations. Movies,Comics, Artbooks and action figures. You couldn't find a Godzilla or Kong shirt to save your life in the 70's and 80's. My father passed in 09 and never saw a rematch with GvK. Does it really matter if someone disagrees with you? I respected what you typed till the last 2 sentences that sounded like my youngest kid would say.
Omg the title alone is going to burn the world lol
Already in the process my friend.
Another day another banger
I LOVED GxK but tere are some downslides
1: the villain: Skar King is a good villain, but i feel like he should be taller than Kong and maybe even Stronger instead of treated like a joke and he should just have shimo on his side instead of controlling her also i feel like Legendary and Warner Bros had the chance to even add a Toho villain like Destoroyah, Space Godzilla, Mecha King Ghidorah, Biollante, Gigan etc
2: Godzilla Evolved: i think they missed a BIG chance to add Godzilla's sprial breath, and instead of Godzilla being pink he should have been red or smth (but overall, interesting design)
3: Screentime: Something that bothers me and i have a problem with is THE LACK OF SCREENTIME, THEY REALLY DID GODZILLA DIRTY BY THE LACK OF SCREEN TIME! WE DON'T WANT HUMAN DRAMA WE WANT BIG MONSTERS FIGHTING! Also instead of Godzilla having like 8 minutes of screentime, its should be like 15 mins or smth
4: The fights: I don't really have a problem with Godzilla vs Scylla so that fight was fire, but one thing for sure is, why did they have Godzilla kill Tiamat so quick? They could have had like an epic 4 or 5 min fight or smth, The egypt fight was fair even though it could have beed a bit longer tbh, and the final battle should have been like 10-20 mins
5: Respect for characters: If Kong is getting so much respect, why not Godzilla? Hes like the star of the Monsterverse, but giving Kong the respect he got, then give it to Godzilla bro
Meh but anyways i LOVE this movie! It's so fire! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I give it a solid 10/10 not as good as KOTM but still really good! 👌🏻
Pink is certainty stronger than supercharged 2019 and ghidorah by extension. Could even be stronger than thermo, but they didn't eve bother making him LOOK stronger. We don't even get any on-screen feats to suggest that he's stronger than base FFS
Jared has said he has no authority or anything that goes on throughout the MV and says he gets no information on anything and CLEARLY says that everything he says is PURELY SPECULATIVE.
But yeah go ahead be the goon you are and use them anyway.
Be the dumbass you are and argue with the creator of the creatures
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 designer and creator are two different things genius
@@44sAtomique No they're not you smooth brained cave dweller
Smooth brained cave dweller that’s funny I’m going to use that on my friend next time he says something brain dead
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812people underestimate almost every aspect about Jared to the point its disgusting. People have openly enjoyed the fact that he got no mention in the credits (because he didn’t even though he designed basically every mf). This vid is straight facts, the evidence is solid and unbiased. I think u should make an MV top 10 or at least add it to the list of vids you plan to make in the future.
The Novel stated Godzilla evolved is twice as strong as he was before he goes into Tiamat's liar. Means he is twice as strong as his Blue Thermo form, who was already a "less extreme" version of Thermo. Even stronger in his "supercharged state".
That 100× times stronger statement was confirmed Hyperbole by Greg Keyes.
And Jared Kirchvesky didn't count since he also said Evo is stronger than Burning in his oppinion.
Ghidorah didn't die and Godzilla didn't die, since Shimo isn't the type of Titan that kills directly, even if she could.
Don't waste your time on that guy, He literally think supercharged G19 >> base G19 = supercharged G24, That proves how biased he is.
@@SamuraiAtomic As if he even was biased lol
I don't understand how you took the 2x stronger than Base goji as fact when The proof that you showed was a hype statement and you said that you don't take hype statements as fact.
Sure, then he's weaker than his base form by feats.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 not what I meant 💀 pretty sure Evo is stronger than base but I just don't understand why u took the 2x statement as fact.
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS EVO GOJI IS HELLA WEAKER THEN THERMO GOJI.
Nah, he could have made a much better debunk, he used the scans at his convenience and misrepresented many things
i dont even know why people say thermo beats evolved like its clear he right there he disintegrated ghidorah and people still say it step up your game evolved fanboys
If we are saying shimo is compared to ghidorah, and base goji can damage ghidorah
And shimo takes no damage against an amped goji
That means your pushing for base being stronger then evo?💀
Base could only hurt a weakened Ghidorah. When Ghidorah was at his own full strength he was fighting an amped Godzilla in Boston-with the energy amount of both being compared by the book writer so....
Also Evolved is only 2x base that's REALLY not a big power up
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 evo itself was a 2x boost, not taking into account his previous amps
Yeah it kind of makes sense actually 🤔
@@321gggnilsnope, he was a x2 amp from base
Ahh yes, base goji hurting a weakened Ghidorah is equal to Shimo "taking no damage" (she literally had claw marks, bruises and burn marks all over her but anyways), gimme a break 😂
Monarch has readings on Thermo
They literally say in the Movie:
‘12 Minutes until he goes Thermonuclear’ simple as that
This changes everything
Spiral > Thermo
Shimo > Amped Ghidorah
1. No they don't
2. That's not counting Mothra's added power onto his.
So
Burning>>>>pink
Amped Ghidorah>>>Shimo
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 1. They literally say he is going to be Thermonuclear
2. Mothra just stabilized him
@@SpiralTheUnstoppable-Xe7 1. And?
2. Wrong. She gave him power on screen, stupid.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 1. And meaning they have readings on Thermo and the quote from Evolved Godzilla when he overloaded still prevails as consistent, as they already had the readings of what Godzilla would become.
This becomes more consistent with this other quote, just as Godzilla was about to enter critical mass, his limit for summary Burning Godzilla
2. Hard ignorance nothing else, Mothra was almost dead and had no power left she was barely flying what power is she gonna add none except from stabilizing him
Ghidorah has no defense against the freezing of shimo which can freeze atoms.
Godzilla was forced to evolve since he did not believe he could beat Shimo unlike Ghidorah.
Shimo has no defense against beams that blast through Godzilla's armor, let alone her already damaged lesser armor.
He couldn't beat Ghidorah either-not without power ups and help. So what's your point?
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Godzilla defeated Ghidorah in the past, it is also assumed that he could have defeated him in the open sea and Godzilla was never forced to evolve against him.
Shimo is a titan with an absolute zero attack and Ghidorah was already frozen, it is obvious who would win Shimo was able to freeze Greenland almost instantly, he can enter the world into an ice age, and his FrostBite Blast (that is, his equivalent to atomic breath) in the novel is described as an absolute zero since it can stop atoms.
@@TheRexZ7961 Wrong. Godzilla AND Shimo beat Ghidorah. Together. Godzilla was forced to evolve. Almost like he got a huge power up in Boston and still LOST.
Yeah the one who can destroy the entire planet, a much stronger being than the one who'd just cover it in ice.
gxk monster designers pfp looking like from cougar macdowalls thumbnails is crazy
1:06 Debunked. Wingard confirmed that what he said about Goji toying with Kong was just a joke.
No he didn't
man these kong glazers 😭
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812the statement he was talking about was about hollow earth energy
I swear i think Kong fans probably only watched the egypt fight up to the part where Kong dazed Godzilla, then went on their phones and started spamming Godzilla fans with stuff like "KoNg BeAt GoDzIlLa In EgYpT fIgHt" and missed the part where Godzilla had his foot on Kong's chest and was about to kill him. Kong fanboys are on another level of stupidity.
Legut
GxK goons need to quiet down.
Make us.
@@Redterverse Too lazy lol
@@RoughTopicNever mind,GXK goons do need to quite down.
@@Redterverse I think every fandom has some percentage of people who need to quit down
@@RoughTopic True but the GXK fanboys are getting out of control.
Quick question: do you think you’d like evolved Godzilla more if the spines were a different color?
If his CGI was better, I can tolerate the pink.
@@Ovken It was shit
Emoji invalid
@@OvkenI didn’t mind it, but it definitely could have been better. The 4 MV movies before it had phenomenal CGI and so this was the only movie that didn’t. Hopefully the next movie will have it decent tho.
@@Ovken first of all, chill tf out. I’m just giving my opinion on the CGI without saying it was objective, which doesn’t mean it’s objectively bad. And yes, I’d be happy to give a few scenes where the CGI definitely wasn’t up to date.
1. The scene where Godzilla is waking up from the colosseum. The way the camera zooms in on his body shows that the CGI was terrible, especially when it’s at his head. It adds a motion blur also just to make it look more realistic.
2. During the final battles (hollow earth and Rio), the CGI on Kong and Godzilla are also not good. The way they move with agility and keep throwing each other around with weak CGI doesn’t add any realism to the fight.
3. The Godzilla vs. Scylla fight also had Godzilla moving around and jumping around to the point where it didn’t feel real. These monsters move around as if they’re normal humans and don’t have any weight. Even GvK had the monsters move like this but made it more smooth by adding more realistic CGI. There is no excuse for the CGI in this movie to be low quality.
Right before you comment saying, “You’re just another shitty GxK hater” I’d like to note that I did in fact, really enjoy the movie and thought it was great. But that’s not to say it was without flaws. And if you don’t believe my points, go and watch the scenes yourself. Again, I’m not saying the movie was terrible. Stop glazing for the sake of glazing.
@@Ovken even if the CGI was good, It’s nothing compared to the CGI of the previous Monsterverse movies, Avatar, Pirates of the Caribbean, and many more movies. If you’re the one saying I am “delusional” for thinking the CGI is bad, then my friend, go watch some of the movies and prove to me how GxK has the greatest CGI in the history of the MV.
It's funny how you using jared statement to prove burning > evo but forgot he already directly state evo > burning.
When
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 In same place that you take the source from.
Huge W
1. Thermonuclear Godzilla
2. AMP Ghidorah
3. AMP G19
4. Base Ghidorah
5. Shimu
I think Shimo beats Ghidorah by a landslide, since he was more or less a draw with Boston Godzilla, Shimo should be able to beat him in this form.
@@ChrolisDuChameleos i dont think so but i respect you're Opnion
Oh yeah here’s a suggestion why not ranked movies best to worst from every era start from the showa era to the monsterverse
Hm, that is a fairly interesting one
Basically, it’s
1Monsters zero
2Supercharge pink Godzilla/shimo
3 normal Godzilla
4 mega Godzilla
5 Kong glove
6 kong axe
7 scar King
@@bardhylshabani4615he means mechagodzilla
Can you make a video scaling the full potential of Monsterverse Burning Godzilla based on what we saw him doing in King Of The Monsters and on how much power you think the Monsterverse will allow Godzilla to tap into compared to his strongest Toho counterparts ( most notably Heisei Godzilla)? I don't want to he Heisei biased, but I don't expect much from it, however I would like to hear your thoughts.
Sure
Just expect him to be bias when it comes to thermo vs burning. Even tho Thermo Godzilla would put heisei in meltdown mode
@@Yoeary45 Burning MV gets slapped by base Heisei so
0:30 That's the only thing I've been thinking about, when Kong threw Skar off of his back.
I love how you address the statements about Jared saying his words aren’t reliable
And then proceed to only show one of the statements and not the other one where he says directly that he has no authority over anything
"B-b-but he designed the creatures so he can comment on them!!" 🤓🤓🤓
@@44sAtomiqueI mean he can lol
@@Shinghidorah-ms6zi again, he has no authority to the kaiju itself and its info except for designing it.
@@Shinghidorah-ms6zihe can’t lmao. He himself said he has no authority on the monsterverse and it’s canon. Such as the powerlevel of the creatures, etc.
@@44sAtomique even some authors in the monsterverse still give authority to designers over themselves. I mean if he dosent have authority who else does. He still designed their looks and powers and gave them every unique ability they had. He should have some authority at least in kaijus power level
i believe ur incorrect, i had a vision in which the wise mystical tree told me pink is the most powerful color 👀
Tell me then
What color is a supernova
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 green?
geuss what colour is a supermassive black hole N O T P I N K
Jared can't be used my guy
Jared: don’t use my words I have no authority over lore or anything
Gkotm: uses it anyway
erm what the sigma
Fr@@ComradeEagle
Man gxk isn't peak, we got to let it go
i just have one last question:
can full power final wars godzilla beat pink legendary godzilla?
No
Maybe if he was Keizer amped, but base full power?, no
@@Foc_heisei yes.
@@mrsketchysketch680 no
8:40 "no sadly"
GKOTM, Shimo fan?
Stupid ice mutt kinda growing on me
Alot of missed information on your part Godzillas energy directly correlates with his power stated all throughout the mv meaning if his energy capacity is increased and can hold more than he van exert more. You have no way of knowing if monarch got readingings of burning or not but the osprey was close to him when he turned burning so it is a possibility. On page 290 and they literally say no one has ever seen readings like these putting him above supercharged 2019 then on 291 hampton an expert on godzilla says she feared an explosion like that in boston talking about burning clearly they had some readings and knowlege on burning and are saying this form is similar to that power
Okay prove ANY of that
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 wdym prove it? I literally just did, they say it in the book gave you page numbers and everything
@@monkeyskinner3133 No you didn't. You just told blatant lies thinking you said something new or intelligent.
possibilities arent necessary truths
@@htyfg11 right but go to those pages of the book and you'll see they say no one has seen readings like the ones off Evo goji
uhm the ''capitacy'' means ''the maximum amount that something can contain.'' ''the amount that something can produce.'' or '' the ability to hold or contain.'' and the novel stated that evolved godzilla is stronger then his base forms meaning stronger then g2019 and g2021 and was stated to be stronger then thermo form and another thing is in the novel it stated that the evo godzilla supercharged spiral heat ray or just normal one was stronger then thermo godzilla pulses so evo solos thermo godzilla
Damn straight my man
That's literally not true I showed this in the video.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 WHO Let you cook
@@TroyFrancis-xt7nf Gordon Ramsay
Called the Burning form "Thermonuclear"
Roblox kid confirmed, opinion ignored
I’m gonna be short movie was slightly disappointing some good moments, no tension, not great or intimidating villains, also for some reason which maybe some people feel different but I felt like the monsters had no weight to them like I didn’t feeling like I’m watching 99,000 ton Godzilla and I don’t mean running or jumping I’m fine with that
I’d give the movie a generous 6/10
One of my buddies gave it a 4/10
You got a smart friend
First off we don’t know if they teamed up to fight Ghidorah, you yourself said it’s speculative. In other words all we know is Shimo froze Ghidorah, nothing else, they haven’t confirmed if it’s been retconned so it’s left at that. Second of all literally every statement saying Ghidorah was Goji’s biggest threat was BEFORE SHIMO was ever made as a character. And the whole bigger threat thing, isn’t allat. It’s quite obvious Shimo isn’t a mean creature, that’s why the cast say she was being overhyped, because they thought all that power would come from an evil creature when really it’s an overgrown puppy dog. You also forget that Shimo is directly compared to Ghidorah as the novel states she is the FIRST to make Godzilla a middleweight in a heavyweight fight. Now if you watch combat sports you’ll know the difference, and their’s a reason why they put weight classes. And if you watched the extras they said it would be a fun idea if IT WAS ACTUALLY Shimo who froze Ghidorah. “Actually” is referring to the fact that an idea has been replaced, the idea that Godzilla “froze” Ghidorah. By saying actually they’ve basically said it WAS Godzilla who did the deed but now we think it’s Shimo. They wanted to use the idea of Shimo freezing Ghidorah to set a tone, to show us how powerful this thing is (said in their own words). Buuuut that’s not that impressive if she teamed with Goji. Ghidorah and Goji are repeatedly stated equals with advantage Ghidorah, they are relative and as evo I expect him to surpass Ghidorah. Done with this long ass post.
Yeah, no. The special features confirmed that her and Godzilla both fought Ghidorah. Irrelevant, Shimo was already made by 2022 and statements of Ghidorah's dominance only vanish last year and Legendary hasn't even said anything in official releases. That comment is only made because of their size-Godzilla was literally dominating her during that portion of the fight in Hollow Earth.
No, Godzilla being "replaced" is bullshit. Not only does more canon material state otherwise but the film itself very clearly shows Godzilla and Ghidorah fighting multiple times in various cave paintings. We know for a fact Godzilla knocked him into that ocean, Shimo freezing him after that contradicts nothing and if anything covers the plot hole of how Ghidorah just froze.
Too bad, their tone failed. They're never actually stated equal. Ghidorah even fresh out of Shimo and Godzilla battle literally beats 2019 Godzilla with mild difficulty at best. The same base Godzilla only being stated to have "a hard time" fighting Shimo in the commentary. Dougherty made it clear Godzilla was losing that first fight, that Ghidorah was stronger than him. Godzilla's only relative to Ghidorah after becoming so powerful he'd explode-confirmed the same level of power he used when evolved and using the spiral beam.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812how they teamed you don’t even mentioned extras in the video, rather you say it’s all speculative which literally means it’s not confirmed at all. It does not matter how logical you think it is, it’s not confirmed and therefore cannot be used to justify canonical rankings@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812Basically asking the greatest boxer of all time when Sugary Ray Robinson was still alive but someone justify someone else because they were considered the best when Mr. Ray wasn’t even in boxing yet. @@godzillakingofthemonsters5812Serizowa confirms they are equal in the KOTM Novel.@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812
Idk wtf it kept tagging you
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And just to note the specific Godzilla v Ghidorah situation: shit can change, no matter how ridiculous. Take LoTM or even KOTM and how it completely changed the 2014 design. We know they fought in the ancient past, that’s undeniable, but it’s now apparent Shimo was the one to truely beat him. If you want to get speculative I doubt Shimo was even there. If you want to keep both into account it’s stated that Ghidorah froze in the ice age, something Shimo could have done from anywhere. She’s also not a fighter at all, Skar likely made her fight.
My Monsterverse list:
1. Thermonuclear Godzilla
2. Thermo Ghidorah (Absorbing Godzilla’s Energy)
3. Spiral Evolved Godzilla (Supercharged)
4. Shimo (Absolute Zero)
5. Supercharged Ghidorah (Boston Power Plant)
6. Evolved Godzilla (Base)
7. Godzilla (Nuke Amp)
8. Base Ghidorah
9. Supercharged Godzilla (Base GxK)
10. Base Godzilla (2019-2021)
11. Mechagodzilla (Hallow Earth Energy)
12. Beast Glove Kong (GxK)
13. Godzilla (2014/Afthermatch)
14. MUTO Prime
15. Mothra (Reborn GxK)
16. Battle Axe Kong (GvK/Base GxK)
17. Scar King
18. Weakend Godzilla (Domminion)
19. Dagon
20. Tiamat (GxK Supercharged)
21. Base Adoult Kong (No Wepons)
22. Mothra (KOTM)
23. Rodan
24. Camazoth
25. Tiamat (Domminion)
26. The Rival Kong
27. Methuselah
28. Queen MUTO
29. Female MUTO
30. Scylla
Methuselah should be above Rodan.
The downplay on tiamat
Evolved Goji>Thermo which is a fact. But I agree on most of the things you said, but Evolved Goji would slam Ghidorah in kotm. Kotm Goji’s base isn’t even that strong compared to his GXK base or even GVK base, and his “amped about to go thermo form” was compareable to GVK Goji’s base and GXK base Goji had surpassed GVK Goji, he then absorbs the nuclear reactor going “thermo again” now surpassing his already stated “to be the strongest base form ever” and then evolved getting 2X stronger within every combat aspect aswell as having 20X energy capacity. I mean, it’s pretty clear Goji’s scaling is above Ghidorah’s now unless they was to meet again, Ghidorah would then have stored enough engery to face the now MUCH STRONGER Godzilla. But as of now within the story both Shimo and Godzilla is above Ghidorah even if the statements are they are but you can also debunk them. And also as of now Godzilla would still be the strongest Kaiju within the MV. It should also be noted that Shimo probably didn’t fight Ghidorah with Goji, I think she caused the ice age which is why Ghidorah was so easily frozen but Goji defeated him.
The fact you said GvK is above removes all credibility from your statement. Period.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812LMAO No I just read it back and never did I contradict myself I was confused to ehat you meant before but saying GVK base>Kotm base isn’t wrong LMAO it even states he was stronger in GVK
@@xdevilxx-_-demons3263 Braindead. He was much stronger in KoTM in every source.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Both the scaling showings show otherwise so No and No it literally stated GVK Goji was stronger then base 2019 Goji
But what about the statement that Wingard made that says that Evovled is stronger then ever before
And I think if Jared said that his opinion is not official or confirmed that means it’s pure speculation
And the book even tells that Godzilla always had power ups before a fight even in the ancient times so he fought Shimo and Ghidorah with power ups and as you said Ghidorah was scorched by Godzilla’s atomic breath while Shimo is said to be on power with him if not dominating him in there ancient which placed 1000 years ago and Ghidorah also had help of other titans bc Ghidorah was the alpha
And fact that Shimo can also gets powerful with Geo thermal energy which Godzilla also consumes
It is safe to say that if Ghidorah can get ampes then Shimo can too
Shimo was also holding back during there fight in Rio bc she didn’t wanted to fight anyone she was doing it bc of Skar
So we can say she would most likely beat Ghidorah and can also beat Amp Ghidorah
Also Ghidorah’s most abilities would not come in work bc of Shimo’s absolute Zero means Regeneration wouldn’t even be a thing for Ghidorah
So in my Opinion Shimo beats Ghidorah
I know the video was quite early so maybe you missed some of this info
Thanks
He never said that? All he said was Godzilla went on a training montage and bulked up. Kinda vague words.
Yeah not so fast. Nothing aside from a single Adam statement implies Godzilla powered up before, and even then he said maybe. Funny, we see Godzilla overpowering Shimo in a clash of beams and the image of her being blasted is her howling in pain. Given the amount of scars she has in modern times, it appears Godzilla messed her up too. And she can't heal.
Except nothing, at all, states Shimo can increase in power. Ghidorah can. Mid fight. And insanely quickly.
Shimo was not holding back. Quite the opposite, she'd be doing anything to make the pain stop. Shimo was literally whipped into submission, learning her place was under Godzilla which is why she obeys his command to kill Skar.
So no she's below Ghidorah and amp Ghidorah is unfair.
This was all addressed and debunked in the video, and nothing of note came out since.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Shimo was able to fight on par with His Evolved Godzilla, who was stated to be 2 times more powerful than his original form (The 20x statement was for energy capacity)
Ghidorah was being slaughtered by Supercharged Gojira (The Novel said that) and I'd say Evolved is 2x stronger because of him taking the biggest source of energy on the planet, plus The Powerplant which would make The Statement correct. For the people who try to argue that Shimo tanked a beam that was stronger than the pulses that killed Ghidorah, that's just wrong. More radiation does not equal to more power. Even if it did, we don't know how much more radiation Godzilla took, it could've been even more than the 20x energy capacity Evolved has. Shimo's beam is more powerful than Ghidorah's IMO since it can freeze opponents on the spot, while Ghidorah's could only knock Godzilla over.
@@ThorOdinson-zm8hf The movie directly showed otherwise. And whenever they conflict the novel author has gone on record multiple times to say the films have final say. So Ghidorah was fighting equally with Boston amped Godzilla, and no, even after the power plant Godzilla had power above what Evolved had. Ghidorah's bites and beams tore through Godzilla's skin easily, we see chunks of him missing and he's covered in fresh scars. Shimo was incapable of damaging Evolved much, despite canonically losing muscle mass, fat and being shown if anything to be physically weaker. Kong, Mothra and Shimo all easily dealt with his physical prowess with Kong still being stated below his base form in strength. Her ice beam is on par with his atomic breath, which Ghidorah blasted through in Antarctica. Clearly Ghidorah takes beam power.
Shimo's only graces in the fight are durability and quick freezing. She is outclassed in every other way.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812wait you're saying.
Power plant Godzilla (amp g24)>base evo? How? Could you explain? Please?
@@jashinahmed1493you know it’s actually true
Godzilla which was amped by power plant is indeed stronger then Evolved, movie also shows it quite clearly
I don’t know about you but this type of stuff kind of seems like it only happens like 30 or 20 years ago when the Internet didn’t really exist, yet we are still grasping at basic stuff that the film crew can basically just say yes or no.
How do you feel about Chuck's Godzilla powerscaling
Either outdated or ass
frogot to mention but godzilla in gxk the new empire absorbed nuclear reactors or plants that produce more radiation/energy&fusion then nuclear weapons and that made godzilla become blue supercharged or blue thermo idk how strong is the blue form but thermo became thermo bc of a nuke so godzilla by absorbing nuclear reactors is stronger so evo>>>>thermo
Braindead
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 how is it brainded toxic slander Lmao nuclear reactors dose have more radiation and fusion then some dump nuke XD
@@KaijuGameplayTv6592First of all, nukes contain way more radiation than a power plant, Godzilla was literally over flowing with energy to the point where he was going to EXPLODE. French goji was nowhere near that level. Secondly, ur terrible grammar and the fact you call burning “thermo” confirms you are a Roblox kid, completely invalidating any argument you make.
@@Nobody-sp5wx lol you all are clowns and idiots XD go search on google do nuclear plants or reactors having more radiation then nukes also here is some statements on reactors = ''This is one of the differences between nuclear weapons and nuclear reactors-nuclear reactors can build up fission fragments over a much longer period of time so they will have more radioactivity in the core than a nuclear weapon will produce.'' and Nuclear reactors produce more radioactive fission products than nuclear weapons. also people call it ''thermo'' not bc they are roblox kids lmao but bc if mv godzilla was called burning there would be a confusion bc there cant be 2 godzilla's called '''burning godzilla'''' if it was that way people will confuse both gojis if you say burning godzilla is stronger then burning gozilla, no one would understand it and thermo is fodder his pusles made some buildings stand also novel stated that evolved godzilla is stronger then all his forms and his atomic breath being stronger then thermo pulses
@@Nobody-sp5wx listen lil bro First of all, nukes don't have way more radiation then powerplants also I said ''nuclear reactors'' or ''nuclear plants'' and the nuclear reactors have way more radiation&fusion and energy then nuclear weapons aka nukes go google it dump@ass and whats wrong with thermo? i don't get it lol, everyone says mv godzilla ''burning form'' is thermo bc if everyone called it burning godzilla then people would get confused and think you are talking about heisei godzilla not mv lets just say if it was called burning then we would get 2 godzilla called ''burning godzilla's'' and confusion would happen.
Showa Gigan victims
I always wanted to believe burning was stronger, hes just so badass. Im glad someone else agrees with me!
Not that I dont like Evolved Godzilla, but its got nothing on a molten god
i knew thermo was better than supercharged evolved, but he wasn't even full power?! heh. now i can make the supercharged evolved strongest form of godzilla sound like complete nonsense
I LIKE THE PART WHEN JARE SAID EVO IS STRONGER THAN THERMO BUT U IHNORE 🤣🤣🤣
Ihnore
@@Username-Asset_54 GRAMMAR NAZI
He literally didn’t
@@Shinghidorah-ms6zi HE DID
@@PINKEDSAM where
How do you feel about the writer of Godzilla 2014 said to be returning for the next mv movie?
Seriously?
Really?
Hol up, Fr?
He was one of the people who wrote the original script wasn’t he?
Yes this is true, meaning the next film will hopefully be on the level of pre gvk quality. Especially considering with how he wrote the original script, he seems to understand Godzilla pretty well.
All it takes is a single statement that says “nobody has seen readings like these” your so mad that Kotm Godzilla isn’t his strongest Verizon. A literal man child🤭🤭
Nobody took Thermo's readings either.... You are contradicting yourself.
wait it evolved is only 2x stronger in base, does that make boston and francegoji better? since burning is the strongest and ghidorah second, where do bostongoji, francegoji, evolved, supercharged evolved, and shimo stand?
France's measured energy level is comparable to Evolved before he finished feeding, so there's a pretty good shot. Boston is stated to have much more power in the novel so that one for sure.
Fax Bro Im tired of kids saying shimo>Ghidorah
Evo goji>Ghidorah
Evo goji>Thermo nuclear
Oh yes, Google translate, my favourite Godzilla form is egg goij
Shimo is above ghidorah though dude -_-
3:59 Jesus Claim The Censored Down
10:37 Wasn't ghidorah also weakened ? And was at full power in boston ?
Yeah
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 so I guess it wasn't that much of an anti feat
@@Ovkenthe novelisation said he’s weakened
@@Ovken the novelisation+ghidorah has been trapped in ice for at least thousands of years without any radiation to feed on
@@Ovken “ghidorah doesn’t feed on radiation” we literally see him suck Godzilla’s radiation😭. Do you have Netflix? If so go rewatch the film cuz you can’t even remember half of the film. Ghidorah is stated to be weakened in the novelisation and it makes sense since he’s literally trapped in ice for thousands of years after being wounded by Godzilla and maybe mothra and rodan
But did you actually like Godzilla x Kong? Idk I’m just curious and what would you rate it compared to the other monsterverse movie what’s your favourite one out of the monsterverse movies?
He hates gxk and said it’s the worst monsterverse movie
Kotm is his favourite monsterverse movie
@@Foc_heisei that’s odd I think it’s the best Monsterverse movie but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Also thanks mate
It's by far the worst MV movie.
KoTM is the best of them. It basically does everything this movie tried better.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 like I said there’s nothing wrong with having your own opinion. I just think GxK is my favourite MV film, I think that it gets me hyped if you get what I mean. To me it’s the main reason why I go to the movie theatres. Also keep up the good work 👍🏽
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812what’s your ranking of the films?
this video has me confused as hell.
New sub btw, goodness world wars be happening left and right 💀Anyways which Goji fanbase would you consider the worst?
A. Showa
B. Heisei
C. Millennium
D. MonsterVerse
E. Anime(Gojira Earth)
My opinion is heisei and anime Godzilla earth fanbase is better than every Godzilla fanbase
Same
I like how everyone is like"But they said Evolved Godzilla is stronger!!!", man even freaking Goji Center says that the new form isn't 20x stronger, only able to store more energy, yeah GxK fans even Goji Center, FDA and KOTM disagree with your statements of Evolved Godzilla being the most powerful being in the Monsterverse.
ok but hes still the most powerful being in the monsterverse
If you are talking about Godzilla himself then yes until idk maybe Destoroyah shows up, because Wingard did say Destoroyah would show up. Now if you are talking about his forms, then it depends on whether or not Evolved will get even more powerful than Burning Godzilla, for now it is debatable until Wingard says who is stronger, because the authors of the Novelization also aren't really sure if Evolved is stronger than Burning. We'll just have to wait for Adam Wingard's words.
@@marcosviniciusdossantos2402 Currently, Supercharged Evolved is actually part of his base form (since evolved is a new base form and super charged is his own power) is stronger than base Ghidorah and Shimo
@@Magic_Squid I know, but until someone like Destoroyah shows up, Godzilla might need to evolve further than just that to win, plus this is not even a fully Evolved Godzilla as even Jared says that Godzilla did not finish evolving.
I always thought when i heard "capacity" in the film was stored energy. Like he can use his breath more. And never tire. But i didnt know guidorah was still pretty strong. Like everyone else i was thinking shimo was just the new big kaiju on the block
Fearsome Godzilla did not evolve it seems
It is evolving
Just backwards
Not including Fw and gmk, name one time where godzilla fought ghidorah he didn’t have help,a boost/a power up,or just straight up jumped ghidorah
and before you say heisei he had a boost in power that made him bigger and stronger before he fought ghidorah meaning if that was Heisei godzilla before Godzilla vs king ghiodrah king ghidorah would’ve won.
Showa has jumped Ghidorah countless times
Earth needed help from humans to beat void ghidorah
and Mv godzilla had a boost + help from humans + a boost from mothra to beat ghidorah
What? Godzilla did need a buff to beat Keizer Ghidorah.
Yeah, but that's pretty excusable when you consider the fact that Ghidorah's a literal planet destroying space alien whose alien biology is probably going to grant him some overpowered ass win cons. MV Ghidorah is a good example as his insane regen and energy absorption are basically enough win cons for him to beat any opponent that rivals him in pure strength. Also, his armor basically being made of gold instead of any old regular hide should also explain his OP durability. So yeah, Ghidorah being overpowered is really justifiable when you look at it from a certain standpoint.
Who wins.
G19 base vs evolved Godzilla base please answer.
Evolved godzillas
Evolved, he is above base but not burning.
Evolved: Faster, thicker skin, stronger atomic breath, better energy storage so overload is unlikely. While physically seems weaker and he's a complete moron, he's got more edges
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812nuke boost Godzilla>spiral ray evolved Godzilla right?
@@jashinahmed1493 probably
So can we assume that a Supercharged Evolved Godzilla vs Full Powered Ghidorah would be a very even showdown, resulting in Godzilla eventually winning but collapsing due to exhaustion, until he finds the strength to stand up on his feet like he did in G14?
I think so.
As in amped or base full power?
SC Evolved vs Nuke Amp G19 would very a hard fight although I believe Nuke amp constantly growing stronger would be a win con and should give him the W.
SC Evolved vs Base Ghidorah would also be a hard fight although Ghidorah’s regeneration and energy absorption should list him win
Showa minilla victims!
The power of the Thermonuclear lies in its temperature and ability to release Godzilla's supercharge of nuclear energy in the form of heat energy
The x20 increase of the Evolved Godzilla can function as a catalyst for the supercharge from solar storms and Tiamat's DNA to evolve.
As we know, "Capacity" refers to the maximum amount that something can contain or produce
This may mean that in his Evolved form he can use the extra energy for himself (improving his physical capabilities like longer arms, better locomotion when running or jumping or melee combat, being much more agile and versatile than in his previous versions or an increase in atomic breath power) and not having to release it and explode as in his Thermonuclear Form, where his stats don't change too much, even the GKTOM novel states that Thermonuclear was extremely injured and tired; but the enormous amount of energy it releases is what makes it more dangerous.
In my opinion Godzilla Evolved is more powerful, but Godzilla Thermonuclear is more dangerous/lethal
Crazy
7:21 he meant evolved Godzilla and burning.
Ghidorah is still the strongest titan!
Are you 12
@@TroyFrancis-xt7nf no
Thermonuclear:
I mean no it's still Godzilla
Burning one shots him
@@Nameless_Godzilla Ghidorah's top 10 not top 3
i still dont get how thermo can burn buildings with walking but not with an pulse (it doesnt make scence or does that mean the presense is hotter than the pulse?)
So in short peak Evo caps >/= Supercharged? Seeing Godzilla's nuke amped state was still rapidly increasing
Yep
Nice video feels like you stepped up your editing abit
Had to make up for it mostly being book stuff
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 understandable
FINALLY GHIDORAH BEING BUFFED NOT NERFED
It felt more like watching a "fun" game playthrough than anything serious.
So its hard to say as to how strong something is to be able to compare it with something else bc of how goofy it all is
The most pathetic argument from someone who hates GXK:
The most pathetic argument from someone who doesn't know how MV power scaling works:
@@Username-Asset_54Evolved negs nuke amped G19, lmao
@@NightFire-BS No one cares if you cry because GxK scaling isn't a big deal
@@Username-Asset_54 you're the one who's crying first
"Gxk scaling isn't a big deal" Then whyd you reply to a guy who thinks gxk scaling is a big deal? You should've shut your mouth up if you think that.
@@NightFire-BS You are definitely crying
I can get behind Thermo > Evo, but ill never understand Amped 2019 > Evo lmao, the whole point of Evo Godzilla is that hes been amping himself up through any means necessary, while includes going to the LARGEST STOCKPILE OF ENERGY ON THE PLANET. unless youre meaning to tell me one Nuclear Warhead is more energy potent than literal magnetic solar flares
You think solar flares are all that? Especially when they reach the Earth and lost a fuckload of their energy from the Sun?
Especially when said nuke blew a hole right to the Hollow Earth, literal thousands of miles of seabed, mantle and crust kaboom and that's what Godzilla munched on-and then the New Empire book reveals he got MORE before heading to Boston.
And it's not just a static amp-Godzilla was getting STRONGER mid fight to the point he'd EXPLODE
The only statement for Evolved that even COMPARES to that is when he uses the spiral beam which is confirmed to be his maximum.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 it's directly stated to be the biggest radiation stockpile on earth so that would immediately put it above anything previously, including all nuclear bombs, nuclear reactors and possibly the entire hollow earth itself. Also Evolved Godzilla doesn't go to explode like kotm Nuke Godzilla because he simply stores far more energy.
@@rjsblanket3024 The relevant nukes were used against Ghidorah, so that means nothing, and base Godzilla in GvK compared to Hollow Earth already, who's a LOT weaker than his 2019 self.
Shimo and ghidorah have equal strength feats.
We saw shimo YEET kong and kick godzilla through
Rio de Janeiro. And we saw ghidorah lifting godzilla up
Into the sky/atmosphere, also we saw that ghidorah
Pushed godzilla backwards into a hole with his beams
With basically zero energy as he had just woke up
(This is a theory not head cannon)
I'd say Ghidorah snapping Godzilla's dorsal plates is a better feat of strength
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 i didn’t notice he snapped them
@@Pistachio-Man also ghidorah could lift godzilla's whole body with just his three heads, this happens when ghidorah starts to drain godzilla of his energy in kotm, so yeah i think they should be about relative in physical strength
im not being a monsterverse godzilla glazer, but the title of the video made me think of those 40 year old dads of 2 who think that hesei godzilla can wipe out the entire omniverse and not be tired
Funny how that's exactly what would happen
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 eh Heisei is not omniversal but he does one tap the monsterverse