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So you are just deleting videos with errors now with nothing to say about it just trying to pretend that the video did not exist at all. Sad to see the day when Scishow is just a propaganda machine instead of giving real information and being honest when you get things wrong it is human to do that just acknowledge it.
@@cvspvr this channel if they get things wrong and get backlash on it they delete the video does not say anything and do not try to fix it. Keep an eye out and you will see it happen again. They are completely fine with spreading misinformation. They used to not do this they used to be very good at fixing the wrong parts. Now this channel is not trustworthy on anything when they can not admit when they are wrong.
Yep. And look at the southwest US where gophers are destroyed so cattle can graze without stepping in the holes. We all know how well that whole cycle has gone. As the stripped soil blows away in the wind.
How about doing a video on *soil carbon,* specifically, as topsoil. About how it binds with clay to make it more porous. About how it binds with sand to help it retain water. How it allows inorganic nitrogen become available to plants via bacteria. How it can help soil biota increase minerals. Reduce the need for irrigation. Reduce flooding. Help recharge aquifers, etc. Please explain how old the science is, too.
If you could also speak of ghe problems of temporary reduced productivity when you convert from chemical ag to organic ag or permaculture. Please expound on the time it takes for soil biota to come back after stopping chemical inputs. And why organic and especially permaculture methods are important in rebuilding soil carbon. People also need to be aware we only have a projected 45 years left of topsoil. Topsoil (the carbon-rich stuff) is also called black gold by gardeners and farmers. We need this as a PSA everywhere...
I fully expected the video to end with "And that's why we should send gophers to farm mars for us." That topic change super jarring, cuz I didn't realize there would be two topics in this video before the change
Well, the definition of farming is a little loose, so it might qualify, yes. And the secondary impact shock was mentioned, but there was a third impact shock that wasn't mentioned here. The Anton Petrov video on this same meteorite does cover that part, and in more detail. I'd suggest you look for it, if you're interested in more information!
Gophers are NOT the only non-human mammals that farm! Pikas harvest, cure and then store grasses and forbs. That is real farming not eating roots and pooping.
African Elephants spread the seeds of a particular fruit along their trails, and the fruits require an elephant tusk to open. Is that a mammal farming?
I'm trying to find the name of a specific fruit in mind, but I haven't found it. There are several. Dillenia indica is one fruit dependent on Asian Elephants.
I wonder if we could genetically engineer the roots of a tree or some hardy tuber to make use of the gopher's root growing techniques and find a way to sustain a mars/moon colony off the passive growth from an underground and environmentally controlled ecosystem, while having the productive parts of the plant above-ground and facing the sun in perhaps a glass chamber of sorts. If it proves too radiation-intensive for photosynthesis inside of the glass chamber we could set up solar panels inside of the chamber where it will be kept safe from the buildup of particulates and dust.
I feel obligated to say that some leafcutter ants farm an edible fungi in their underground burrows, and have done so for some 60 million years. It's actually the reason they cut leaves and bring them back underground. To form what's basically mulch from decaying organic material where the fungi can thrive in. They've done this for so long that some species are in obligate symbiosis with the fungi. It can't grow in the wild or hybridise with other fungi anymore, it can only grow in these mould gardens the ants create. And the ants are dependent on the fungi too, they lost the ability to produce some vital nutrient in their own body (I forgot what though) and can only get it by eating the fungi. Edit: I forgot to mention, there are other species ants that farm aphids (garden lice).
I converted to Jainism recently. I learned that Jains are not supposed to eat meat or even root vegetables. And learning this had me thinking, “Are humans the only species who eat root vegetables? Would anyone eat the vegetables that form underground if all the humans stopped uprooting them?” Then, I learned about gophers and voles.
I thought we'd decided tilling wasn't particularly food for soil biome and structure. Are the researchers comparing their results to outdated horticultural ideas. If they were animal biologists, that might account for it
Different grass and shrub species respond differently to moderate levels of soil aeration. Moderate aeration that does not remove topsoil is preferable to some fast growing species, as it helps with soil drainage amongst other things. This is different than tilling, which is done before the target plant has a chance to grow, and removes topsoil. For example, biomes that evolved with earthworms are dependant on moderate soil aeration.
@@tempura2503 I guess it depends on where you are too. Any 'turning' of soil here (no matter how shallow) exposes the soil biota to UV and kills them. Aerating plows (like Yeoman's) don't do this but we wouldn't refer to 'subsoiling' as tillage. I think part of the issue here is the use of the term tillage and my concern was the all-too-common situation where researchers from one specialty area comment on the relevance to something else that they only have a trivial or 'common sense' understanding of.
I see, looking at the papers, I see comparisons to tilling made by the authors as a means of conveying the idea of soil aeration in their introductions. The actual data analyses are generally more rigorous in trying to connect gopher activity to increased root growth.
I was confused when you said other terrestrial planets. Our planet is Terra (from Roman), and I thought terrestrial referred to things on the Earth. Am I confused?
Terrestrial planets are planets made of rock, as opposed to gaseous planets such as Saturn or Jupiter. Terrestrial essentially means “Earth-like,” as in the fact that, for instance, both Earth and Mars are made from rock.
I might be able to explain. Terra as a word root is earth as in dirt, not Earth as in the named planet (usually the concept of the deity comes from the natural substance, so the deity is secondary as far as word roots go). So terrestrial animals live on dry land (earth) and terrestrial planets (like Earth and Mars) have a rocky outer surface, sometimes with liquid covering parts of it. Sometimes it gets confusing when a word is a proper noun in some contexts and a common noun in others. Apologies if the explanation is overly detailed. Just want to be sure it's clear for anyone else who might happen upon it.
Yeah well their holes injure animals like breaking horses legs or our own and in our orchard the pocket gophers killed our younger trees so until you can PROVE they will help and not damage we will still be excommunicating them on sight. But interesting subjects
But... dont feel accused when i say this, but i love to engage so i talk with lots of Science-Fans and i kinda get the feeling many arent wary enough or arguably dont do enough about Systemic Issues. What about you? Do you watch Channel that can be summarized as 'Problem-Tacklers'? Illumiinaughtii, Some More News and... well... the entire Concept of Atheist-Channel? I mean, even if the recent Abortion-Thing had never ever happened, they would stil be the main-source of valid criticism and problem-identifiers on YT, wouldn they? So it worries me that Sci-Fans only wanna be updated on Fun Science Stuff but not this. I feel like the Fanbases dont overlap enough, even though a healthier relationship between Theists and Atheists is the simpliest thing these Channel want, but they're sure to not stop there.
Probably has to do with quantity, density, etc. I'm sure if you inhale too much steam, or steam that's pressurized, too hot, etc, it will be harmful too.
You've apparently never had trees and shrubs killed by pocket gophers. When I have a small tree fall over and find just a hold leading to a gopher tunnel, and no rootball, it's pretty obvious what happened. Pocket gophers can be very destructive. They really like aloe and agave roots, killing the plants when they eat them from the bottom up.
Are you sure? Do you have evidence that a pocket gopher dug there and ate the roots? Do you have proof that it is a pocket gopher and not any other burrowing/tunneling animals that did it?
But... dont feel accused when i say this, but i love to engage so i talk with lots of Science-Fans and i kinda get the feeling many arent wary enough or arguably dont do enough about Systemic Issues. What about you? Do you watch Channel that can be summarized as 'Problem-Tacklers'? Illumiinaughtii, Some More News and... well... the entire Concept of Atheist-Channel? I mean, even if the recent Abortion-Thing had never ever happened, they would stil be the main-source of valid criticism and problem-identifiers on YT, wouldn they? So it worries me that Sci-Fans only wanna be updated on Fun Science Stuff but not this. I feel like the Fanbases dont overlap enough, even though a healthier relationship between Theists and Atheists is the simpliest thing these Channel want, but they're sure to not stop there.
Sounds like every species whose behaviour in some way creates an environment that benefits it food source could be considered farmers. So, basically every species. To me farming includes intent and focus of both energy and result, none of which are proven. This is either bad science reporting or bad science publicizing
Farming has nothing to do with intent because intent is a human construct and poorly defined outside of the scope of consciousness. Many ant species farm fungi purely based on instinct. And most herbivores don't benefit the plants they eat unless you count seed dispersal. This is why plants evolve to avoid predation.
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So you are just deleting videos with errors now with nothing to say about it just trying to pretend that the video did not exist at all.
Sad to see the day when Scishow is just a propaganda machine instead of giving real information and being honest when you get things wrong it is human to do that just acknowledge it.
@@havtor007 wat?
@@cvspvr this channel if they get things wrong and get backlash on it they delete the video does not say anything and do not try to fix it.
Keep an eye out and you will see it happen again.
They are completely fine with spreading misinformation.
They used to not do this they used to be very good at fixing the wrong parts.
Now this channel is not trustworthy on anything when they can not admit when they are wrong.
That's one amazing thumbnail, lol.
It ain't much but its gopher work
@@cjtherou4427 take my like and get out
Agreed.
Almost as good as your happy Quagsire :D
@@cjtherou4427 you've earned the rest of the day off of the internet
I didn’t know I needed to have a favorite gopher photo but the absolute distain on this creatures face is palpable at 1:00
When I was a kid I was told never to destroy a gopher-mound because they keep the soil stable and healthy.
Yep. And look at the southwest US where gophers are destroyed so cattle can graze without stepping in the holes. We all know how well that whole cycle has gone. As the stripped soil blows away in the wind.
I'm glad someone very wise taught you this. 😊
How about doing a video on *soil carbon,* specifically, as topsoil. About how it binds with clay to make it more porous. About how it binds with sand to help it retain water. How it allows inorganic nitrogen become available to plants via bacteria. How it can help soil biota increase minerals. Reduce the need for irrigation. Reduce flooding. Help recharge aquifers, etc.
Please explain how old the science is, too.
If you could also speak of ghe problems of temporary reduced productivity when you convert from chemical ag to organic ag or permaculture. Please expound on the time it takes for soil biota to come back after stopping chemical inputs. And why organic and especially permaculture methods are important in rebuilding soil carbon. People also need to be aware we only have a projected 45 years left of topsoil.
Topsoil (the carbon-rich stuff) is also called black gold by gardeners and farmers.
We need this as a PSA everywhere...
Meh
@@baileyjerman5573
Describes you well.
@@b_uppy nerd
I fully expected the video to end with "And that's why we should send gophers to farm mars for us." That topic change super jarring, cuz I didn't realize there would be two topics in this video before the change
“It ain’t much, but it’s honest work.”
- A gopher somewhere
[Pocket Gopher: Farms]
[Bearves, terraforming an entire ecosystem to fit their needs]: "Not bad kid"
the issues with gophers in the garden for me is absolutely not the digging - if they get in they can eat every plant in a bed in a single night 😅
Oh no!
Well, the definition of farming is a little loose, so it might qualify, yes. And the secondary impact shock was mentioned, but there was a third impact shock that wasn't mentioned here. The Anton Petrov video on this same meteorite does cover that part, and in more detail. I'd suggest you look for it, if you're interested in more information!
Judge Smails: Do you know what gophers can do to a golf course?
Mc Fiddish: Increase crop yields?
Excellent content as always. Keep up the impressive educational work SciShow.
I hope they make a video on how scientists date those craters, specially those in other planets.
Gophers are NOT the only non-human mammals that farm! Pikas harvest, cure and then store grasses and forbs. That is real farming not eating roots and pooping.
All I know is if the squirrels don’t stop putting bird seed pockets in my garden I’m going to end up with free bird seed lol
Should have put the caption on the thumbnail “it ain’t much but it’s honest work” 😂
Pocket gopher is a euphemism just waiting to happen
I like to scoop up the fresh soil from the gopher mounds in the lawn to reinvigorate my flowering plants.👍
Scream "Representative! " into the phone for hours. 🤣 Has Stephan been watching me?
The comments are not focusing on what matters.
That grade A++ thumbnail.
Was wondering if scishow quiz show is coming back anytime soon
unfortunately it probably fell way due to not enough viewership for the cost of setup
I would like it to return, too.
Hold up, pocket gophers? Now we're getting on prime meme territory.
go for coffee
Now that's my kind of Pokemon.
Sounds like something Dale would throw at people.
@@deckardcanine Pokegoph.
African Elephants spread the seeds of a particular fruit along their trails, and the fruits require an elephant tusk to open. Is that a mammal farming?
Source?
I had no idea! Do you remember what kind of fruit it is? I'd love to watch a video on that.
I'm trying to find the name of a specific fruit in mind, but I haven't found it. There are several. Dillenia indica is one fruit dependent on Asian Elephants.
@@TJtheHuman Cool, thank you! I'll have to look that one up. 😊
Unless they actually deliberately bring the seeds to spread, I'd say they're just walking and pooping.
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Sci show needs to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants trees
That thumbnail Is pure gold
Dale Gribble should totally upgrade to Pocket Gophers.
I wonder if we could genetically engineer the roots of a tree or some hardy tuber to make use of the gopher's root growing techniques and find a way to sustain a mars/moon colony off the passive growth from an underground and environmentally controlled ecosystem, while having the productive parts of the plant above-ground and facing the sun in perhaps a glass chamber of sorts.
If it proves too radiation-intensive for photosynthesis inside of the glass chamber we could set up solar panels inside of the chamber where it will be kept safe from the buildup of particulates and dust.
Came for the thumbnail. Stayed for the content. Thanks for sharing.
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that's more like a symbiotic relationship than farming
I think that that double impact area on Mars is actually kinda worth avoiding :)
never thought I'd hate gophers a little less..
Prairie dogs are just glorified gophers and that says a lot about how seriously underrated gophers are.
We need to send Gophers to Mars then... :P
W thumbnail
For a second I thought this was from Gopher's gaming channel about a gopher simulator... 😀
Gopher was the internet of the 80's
What about the Picca they cut and dry grass moving it to stay in the sun then storing it to eat later
And I thought Journey to the Microcosmos would be the sci show channel that focuses on alga rhythms. :)
It was either that, or skin my chauffeurs
... Wait, I've got that song wrong haven't I
Ah you got me at the thumb nail!
I love that thumbnail
Pocket monsters on the other hand....
No one is going to talk about the jump from gophers to Mars rocks?!
Anybody else here hoping to see a gopher farming ?
I didn't catch up how the gopher links to the Mars ._.
gophers can greatly help the growth of some plants but they can be detrimental to other plants.
I feel obligated to say that some leafcutter ants farm an edible fungi in their underground burrows, and have done so for some 60 million years. It's actually the reason they cut leaves and bring them back underground. To form what's basically mulch from decaying organic material where the fungi can thrive in. They've done this for so long that some species are in obligate symbiosis with the fungi. It can't grow in the wild or hybridise with other fungi anymore, it can only grow in these mould gardens the ants create. And the ants are dependent on the fungi too, they lost the ability to produce some vital nutrient in their own body (I forgot what though) and can only get it by eating the fungi.
Edit: I forgot to mention, there are other species ants that farm aphids (garden lice).
That's why the video title has to specify "mammal".
Soon they'll develop rayguns
My lawn says - pest
It ain't much, but it's honest work
What about while farming trees instead of crops?
It aint much, but it's gopher.
“Pocket gophers” aren’t a species; rather, that’s a name for gophers in general.
I would love a detailed explanation as to how we get samples from Mars to Earth. That video would be intriguing.
3:00 Mustafar
1:00 that gopher looks PISSED
I converted to Jainism recently. I learned that Jains are not supposed to eat meat or even root vegetables. And learning this had me thinking, “Are humans the only species who eat root vegetables? Would anyone eat the vegetables that form underground if all the humans stopped uprooting them?” Then, I learned about gophers and voles.
great vid man but i thing you used the word rock a bit too much tho lol.
Just tell me what ate my carrots 🥕
Nope. When a gopher usurped over 250 carrots in a single day... death to pocket gophers.
Technically squirrels do too, just inadvertently.
No they don't. They don't tend to their crops, rely on their growth.
@@smurfyday I never said they were good at it. 😁
I thought we'd decided tilling wasn't particularly food for soil biome and structure. Are the researchers comparing their results to outdated horticultural ideas. If they were animal biologists, that might account for it
Different grass and shrub species respond differently to moderate levels of soil aeration. Moderate aeration that does not remove topsoil is preferable to some fast growing species, as it helps with soil drainage amongst other things. This is different than tilling, which is done before the target plant has a chance to grow, and removes topsoil. For example, biomes that evolved with earthworms are dependant on moderate soil aeration.
@@tempura2503 I guess it depends on where you are too. Any 'turning' of soil here (no matter how shallow) exposes the soil biota to UV and kills them. Aerating plows (like Yeoman's) don't do this but we wouldn't refer to 'subsoiling' as tillage. I think part of the issue here is the use of the term tillage and my concern was the all-too-common situation where researchers from one specialty area comment on the relevance to something else that they only have a trivial or 'common sense' understanding of.
I see, looking at the papers, I see comparisons to tilling made by the authors as a means of conveying the idea of soil aeration in their introductions. The actual data analyses are generally more rigorous in trying to connect gopher activity to increased root growth.
Squirrels plants seeds all day long. Thank you little crack rats fpr building our forests up.
No wonder the Great Plains died which caused the great dust bowl 😮💨
Ants aren't mammals but some grow fungi to eat
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Good job specifying MAMMAL in the title. Ants are awesome!
I was confused when you said other terrestrial planets. Our planet is Terra (from Roman), and I thought terrestrial referred to things on the Earth. Am I confused?
Terrestrial planets are planets made of rock, as opposed to gaseous planets such as Saturn or Jupiter. Terrestrial essentially means “Earth-like,” as in the fact that, for instance, both Earth and Mars are made from rock.
I might be able to explain.
Terra as a word root is earth as in dirt, not Earth as in the named planet (usually the concept of the deity comes from the natural substance, so the deity is secondary as far as word roots go). So terrestrial animals live on dry land (earth) and terrestrial planets (like Earth and Mars) have a rocky outer surface, sometimes with liquid covering parts of it.
Sometimes it gets confusing when a word is a proper noun in some contexts and a common noun in others. Apologies if the explanation is overly detailed. Just want to be sure it's clear for anyone else who might happen upon it.
Pests or Farmers?
Neither.. Dinner. 🍽️
I dunno. My missing vegetables and mounds of dirt in the lawn tell me they are pests. 😋
Yeah well their holes injure animals like breaking horses legs or our own and in our orchard the pocket gophers killed our younger trees so until you can PROVE they will help and not damage we will still be excommunicating them on sight. But interesting subjects
You’ll be “excommunicating” the gophers? I didn’t know gophers went to church! Lmfao
What not pests wow
But... dont feel accused when i say this, but i love to engage
so i talk with lots of Science-Fans and i kinda get the feeling many
arent wary enough or arguably dont do enough about Systemic Issues.
What about you?
Do you watch Channel that can be summarized as 'Problem-Tacklers'?
Illumiinaughtii, Some More News and... well... the entire Concept of Atheist-Channel?
I mean, even if the recent Abortion-Thing had never ever happened,
they would stil be the main-source of valid criticism and problem-identifiers
on YT, wouldn they? So it worries me that Sci-Fans only wanna be updated
on Fun Science Stuff but not this.
I feel like the Fanbases dont overlap enough, even though a healthier relationship
between Theists and Atheists is the simpliest thing these Channel want,
but they're sure to not stop there.
my pet bird poops on my plants, so ig she is s farmer too.
Hey Man I got a question, If inhaling water damages our lungs then why does inhaling steam not cause any problem?
Probably has to do with quantity, density, etc. I'm sure if you inhale too much steam, or steam that's pressurized, too hot, etc, it will be harmful too.
I thought this was going to introduce gopher burgers
I must object to the title and cite the leaf cutter ant!
I don't know how ro talk to other people. I have been talking to robots for way to long of time.
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Man, I really want to buy adidas.
16th! I love the thumbnail!
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You've apparently never had trees and shrubs killed by pocket gophers. When I have a small tree fall over and find just a hold leading to a gopher tunnel, and no rootball, it's pretty obvious what happened. Pocket gophers can be very destructive. They really like aloe and agave roots, killing the plants when they eat them from the bottom up.
glad to know Brian Wood is the expert on pocket gophers, and not the University of Florida
Hes just summarizing the study. If you disagree with it take it up with the researchers, dont shoot the messenger.
Yes, because experience is better than actual scientific research
Are you sure? Do you have evidence that a pocket gopher dug there and ate the roots? Do you have proof that it is a pocket gopher and not any other burrowing/tunneling animals that did it?
There wasn't any point where it was mentioned that gophers benefit all plants equally.
Neat.
The Algorithm is being unfair with the channel
But... dont feel accused when i say this, but i love to engage
so i talk with lots of Science-Fans and i kinda get the feeling many
arent wary enough or arguably dont do enough about Systemic Issues.
What about you?
Do you watch Channel that can be summarized as 'Problem-Tacklers'?
Illumiinaughtii, Some More News and... well... the entire Concept of Atheist-Channel?
I mean, even if the recent Abortion-Thing had never ever happened,
they would stil be the main-source of valid criticism and problem-identifiers
on YT, wouldn they? So it worries me that Sci-Fans only wanna be updated
on Fun Science Stuff but not this.
I feel like the Fanbases dont overlap enough, even though a healthier relationship
between Theists and Atheists is the simpliest thing these Channel want,
but they're sure to not stop there.
Imagine if some dude high up in the food chain, decides that we should bring back the rock to it's launch location on mars.
Leaf cutter Ants farm too. They farm fungus.
But ants are insects
@@Acridotheresfuscus fauna are fauna. They aren't flora so they are in the animal kingdom
@@jimorr820 they specifically said only mammal to farm look closer
here
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Check me if I'm wrong, Sandy, but if I kill all the gophers, they're gonna lock me up and throw away the key
Neat
Sounds like every species whose behaviour in some way creates an environment that benefits it food source could be considered farmers.
So, basically every species.
To me farming includes intent and focus of both energy and result, none of which are proven.
This is either bad science reporting or bad science publicizing
It's Stockholm syndrome haha
Farming has nothing to do with intent because intent is a human construct and poorly defined outside of the scope of consciousness. Many ant species farm fungi purely based on instinct. And most herbivores don't benefit the plants they eat unless you count seed dispersal. This is why plants evolve to avoid predation.
So they are both.
Pasture pests...
*Ants also farm*
Ants are mammals, now?
Hey ladies, I got a pocket gopher.
Leaf cutter ants.
Are not mammals.
Ants
are insects..