Beat the Mopar Tax! Cutting Down your 8 3/4 Rearend at Home

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • One of the major punishments of owning an old Mopar car or truck, can be the limited selection of correct width rearend housings. There were many vehicles that came with 8 3/4 rearend housings that were not considered to be performance applications. With the rising popularity of A body Mopars, you may want a Quick, Cheap, and Dirty way to get that wide rearend under your car.
    This rearend is cut down for our friend Randall ‪@BlownBudgetGarage‬ and his 73 Dodge Dart Swinger. Check out his channel for the swap from a 7 1/4" rearend to this 8 3/4" rearend.
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  • @318willrun
    @318willrun Год назад +10

    Oh... and JMJ shows you don't need "top of the line" gadgets to get things done. His dial indicators, angle finder, and the such are measuring devices any common person can have in his/her arsenal. 👍👍

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +3

      Thanks, Tim. We know of the guys with thousand in tools that don’t get their hands dirty.

    • @moparnut6286
      @moparnut6286 Год назад +2

      The great pyrimd of Giza is the most accurate set building too true north in the world all done with water levels and string levels!!... Now that's old school tools!

    • @michaelmartinez1345
      @michaelmartinez1345 Год назад +1

      Awesome Episode!!!! A great way to do this modification, with maximum strength and accuracy.... For those of us , who are working on a budget, yet still need to get the job done with excellent results!!!!
      I particularly liked the beveling of the butt ends to be welded together, thst assure maximum penetration and surface area of these multiple-pass weld beads...

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      @@michaelmartinez1345 thanks brother. It was a deep bevel to allow really good penetration and weld puddle.

    • @Anarchy-Is-Liberty
      @Anarchy-Is-Liberty Год назад

      @@moparnut6286 Nobody actually knows for a fact how the pyramids were built to this day.

  • @robertweddell2250
    @robertweddell2250 Год назад +6

    Hi Joe if you use a big enough hose clamp it will tighten down and give you a nice right angled edge to scribe around before you make a cut on the tubes.

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +3

      That’s a good idea. Thanks brother!

  • @scottmcgillis5348
    @scottmcgillis5348 Год назад +3

    Much more professional than Mopar man 1978 LoL
    That guy is a fool

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +2

      Mopar to the front 🫡

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Scott, welcome to the channel. I’ve got a 68 barracuda that I built a stock stroke 400, with multiple dyno videos, making over 500hp and foot pounds. Hope you subscribe. This will be the top of the iceberg for the year 🚀

  • @318willrun
    @318willrun Год назад +3

    Nice work! That is a great thing to do with C-body and E-body 8.75 rear ends. ha ha!

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Absolutely. Had this one available, so I rolled with it. I’ve seen some fella up north swapping one into his A body before. Nice guy

    • @318willrun
      @318willrun Год назад

      @@JustMoparJoe 👍

  • @UnfinishedProjectDartSport
    @UnfinishedProjectDartSport Год назад +3

    Beat the Mopar Taxi!!
    Dart Sport!!

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 Год назад +3

    Very nice job Joe.
    Was nice of Joe to give you a hand.
    Definitely helps having another pair of hands.
    I would say that lined up every bit as good as the factory did.
    Nice welding.
    Thanks for sharing.
    Have a great day.
    Take care, Ed.

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Thanks, Ed. We are hoping the tolerance are on our side.

  • @BigfootsnMopars
    @BigfootsnMopars Год назад +2

    Great video!! And quoting JMJ “you should ALWAYS replace weak A body parts with the FAR SUPERIOR B body parts” 🦶🏾

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      That sounds not right 🤔

    • @BigfootsnMopars
      @BigfootsnMopars Год назад

      @@JustMoparJoe really? I could’ve sworn that’s exactly what I heard …😁

  • @thomasward4505
    @thomasward4505 Год назад +2

    Because eight and three-quarter axles are made from stamped Steel they are not always perfectly round or straight. The way you are doing it is going to come out pretty close but hopefully your axles won't have any toe in or toe out front to back. Did you check for that? I've had a couple of housings narrowed by Moser and they reweld the ends on and they don't always look straight to the housing tubes but they assured me when using their alignment tool that they were perfectly straight

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +3

      I’ve thought about this a while. Stole the technique from a guy on RUclips. I think with the green bearings locking into the ends of the housing bores, and the splines in the ends of the carrier, it uses the axle to align the housing end and tube, to the opposite tube. I would imagine that this could help correct some of the variance because it fixes the point of rotation(the green bearing in flange) and the carrier is used to support the axle end. I liked the idea of doing it with the brake backing plates off, because it allowed the axles to go slightly deeper into the carrier for a bit more alignment. When it gets actually installed, the splines will be slightly further out and should be more true than factory.

  • @moparnut6286
    @moparnut6286 Год назад +3

    Awesome stuff Joe got one truck housing and one out of a C body... But the 70 charger one I have is so close it's going under my 72 dart and it's only a 1/4in difference in the perches and it's wider for a deeper wheel offset too.. but I do want to cut down my other ones for b body use... If you want to keep factory pinion angle just cut one perch off at a time then use two 1ft long 4x4 piece of wood lay the rear on them and weld the new perch where needed with the factory angle still intact..then just repeat for other side.

    • @318willrun
      @318willrun Год назад +2

      i had a tough tough time finding a truck 8.75 for Drag Truck. I agree, I personally like B-body (65-67 especially) in Dusters and Dart Sports for the little extra width. But Scamps and Swingers are a little more stingy with the width.

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +2

      Thanks John! I think we really hit it with the gauge.

    • @moparnut6286
      @moparnut6286 Год назад

      @@JustMoparJoe well the gauge never lies!😂😂😂

    • @moparnut6286
      @moparnut6286 Год назад +1

      @@318willrun yeah swingers and scamps valiant, very tight!

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      @@moparnut6286 I figured use the same broken gauge on his project and hope for the best before and after 😂

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 Год назад +1

    If I get rid of a car of mine and get a good driver could I count on you to help me find some parts that's not a arm, leg and a nut to fix it? Thank you for sharing this with us and especially those who are new to the game of wanting a new old school ride and don't mind putting in the work for it. Great afternoon to you all JMJ

  • @somewhatfast
    @somewhatfast Год назад

    You do realize you have 440 videos.. Next one has to be a BANGER to break the 440 mark

  • @TsGoodTimesGarage
    @TsGoodTimesGarage Год назад +1

    Seeing this, I may just give it a whirl myself down the road! Nice work!

  • @artjones2498
    @artjones2498 Год назад

    Nice job....ive always used a stick welder when i re did spring perches...i work on tractor trailers....never shortend a houseing before...i like your process useing basic tools....

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      Thanks Art! I’ve got a stick machine, but the gas on the hobart can burn it in

  • @BigBlock402
    @BigBlock402 Год назад

    Thats nice, I will need to do this to my 12 bolt in Candy Kane after NNN23. Great Video

  • @roadrunner698
    @roadrunner698 Год назад

    Nice work. I bought the jig but your method looks like it works great. So far I’ve done 3 8 3/4 housings and built a b body Dana 60 for my roadrunner. Definitely a money saver. I’ve been using Moroso spring perches as they have the correct hole size for the spring pin. Dr Diff axles are great.

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Great to hear! I may have to get a jog setup if I’m going to keep doing this stuff. Thanks for sharing on the perches

  • @toddmccarter45
    @toddmccarter45 Год назад +1

    My dad narrowed an 8.8 for his falcon pretty much the exact same way earlier this year, great minds think alike!

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Thanks brother! I had a couple videos of doing my old 8.8 like this too. I stole the idea from RUclips 😂

  • @PeckerwoodKustoms
    @PeckerwoodKustoms Год назад

    This is the one job Ive been procrastinating... Want to buzz off a bit under an inch to get the Cragars inside the guards... lot of measuring...I like the pipe cutter idea too.. I was always wondering how you got the cut line parallel... the rest of it doesnt seem too hard... might measure up and do a disc rear too using local parts...saw a how to on the somewhere too...appreciate the share Joe... educating us garage guys one vid at a time!! Love it

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Thanks brother. If my pipe cutter bit had been new, it would have eventually made it through the housing. Lol

  • @outlawdart
    @outlawdart Год назад

    If access to a lathe, you can machine a counterbore into the back side of the housing end that you cut off and slide it over the axle tube. Then you can weld the ID and OD for a clean look and if housing is cut square the housing end will butt square so no toe ow camber issues.

  • @hellcatsangels
    @hellcatsangels Год назад

    hell yeah i cut my 8 3/4 too with out any special tools i used a grinder lol and just got my tires moving on gear.😎 it's on my youtube channel

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 Год назад

    Got something for everything now a days. Once upon a time we had to buy custom or. Pay to have a machine shop do splines.

  • @maxfastest
    @maxfastest Год назад

    I've torn up too many 8 3/4 rearends.
    It's a Ford 9 inch for my Mopar
    Haven't broken one yet

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      This one is in a mild A body. Should be great for the application

  • @BlownBudgetGarage
    @BlownBudgetGarage Год назад +1

    Can’t say thank you enough for doing this! Definitely going to make a world of difference with the chunk going in it 💪🏼

  • @briansignorelli7090
    @briansignorelli7090 Год назад

    I put a c body rear end in a d150 and when I welded new perches on it must have warped the housing I had camber on the back of the truck so anybody that is doing this beware

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      Oh man! That’s a new one on me. Did you install any lowering shackles?

  • @smilsmff
    @smilsmff Год назад

    Used to be 100-150 drum to drum, when people were not greedy.On next thoughts. If you could have axle housing 1-2 inch narrower, that would make huge difference for The Dart body, Barracuda 67-69 is Better designed.

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      This is for a friend and he already bought his wheels and tires. We moved the perches in 5/8” to help pull the leafes away from the tire. 😂

    • @smilsmff
      @smilsmff Год назад

      @@JustMoparJoe sometimes that 5/8 can be huge difference lol in Dart world

  • @dumpsterchicken6287
    @dumpsterchicken6287 Год назад

    Ain't too many things these ol' boys can't do
    A country boy can survive

  • @brianandglendaharkin9457
    @brianandglendaharkin9457 Год назад

    👍🏻🇦🇺💯love it great job .

  • @johnmullins2798
    @johnmullins2798 Год назад

    I see no problem with this working. Great info.

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      Thanks John. This is my second one. No issues so far 👍🏼

  • @killingcursivekustoms
    @killingcursivekustoms Год назад

    I realized that the 8-3/4 was going to be "something to have", when I couldn't find one.

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Exactly! They almost always are out there, in the wrong length 😅

    • @killingcursivekustoms
      @killingcursivekustoms Год назад

      @@JustMoparJoe I've been collecting them ever since. There's a boneyard here where I'm at, with probably 10, hiding under some old mopar c bodies

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      @@killingcursivekustoms that’s gold!

  • @everetmauiman5321
    @everetmauiman5321 Год назад

    Yes I am doing that right now I have 2 8 3/4 I have a 741 on my car and I am installing a 8 3/4 489 sure grip posi

  • @tonyb3864
    @tonyb3864 Год назад

    Should took an inch more off each side could run wider tires

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      This one was customer ordered. I would have mini tubbed

  • @dinadaughtry8993
    @dinadaughtry8993 Год назад

    Looks good like a shop that specializes in rearends

  • @mostlymoparih5682
    @mostlymoparih5682 Год назад

    Good stuff.
    Happy Motoring.

  • @mikestackhouse9001
    @mikestackhouse9001 Год назад

    Excellent fabing on a shoestring budget Joe. Explain please the 4 degrees when starting to tack.

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      That was the pinion angle in relationship to the housing. When measured before, it was 3 1/2 degrees. I added a half a degree because this car will see some hard acceleration. Under typical circumstances and acceleration, a lot of that will be at 0-2 degrees because of the twist of the leaf springs. Mopar rearends are centered. The little bit of pinion angle also allows the u joint to swivel some and live longer.

    • @mikestackhouse9001
      @mikestackhouse9001 Год назад

      @@JustMoparJoe I thought the pinion snubber took care of that. Thanks for your explanations. They are always warmly received.

  • @musclecarmitch908
    @musclecarmitch908 Год назад +1

    Great information!👍

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Thanks Mitch. It’s not perfect, but it works well

  • @farmerbrown3768
    @farmerbrown3768 Год назад

    You just save yourself a wad of cash!👍

  • @BlownBudgetGarage
    @BlownBudgetGarage Год назад

    Oooooo 👀👀👀👀

  • @joeinmi8671
    @joeinmi8671 Год назад +1

    You clearly have and build some good running mopars. Could you tackle the question of why you see so many that just don't perform as well as they should compared to the #s on paper? SBM is the most under rated engine of all time imho.

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      I think there’s multiple layers to this. In and out of the car, people build engines with the wrong combinations of Parts. Cams too big, too much gear, too little stall, poor suspension tuning, taking bad advice, choosing exhaust sound over performance, and wrong applications for many engines. I hope some of that makes sense. Another could be that people focus on max Hp and torque figures but not the averages.

    • @joeinmi8671
      @joeinmi8671 Год назад

      @JustMoparJoe that was more of a suggestion/idea for a future video maybe. You have to admit it plagues the mopar camp pretty bad...

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      @@joeinmi8671 I’m in a bit of glass house with my barracuda. I know it has more in it, but it’s there yet. Been really too hot to get out and test again. My best passes were in early May in nice weather before I switched converters and rocker arms. I’m not far off my mark, but will definitely make some numbers before NNN.

  • @slantfish65sd
    @slantfish65sd Год назад

    Awesome work! Love the video?

  • @lilo2469
    @lilo2469 Год назад +1

    Joe ,You Da Man !

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      Thanks brother. It was too hot out for this project

  • @Jydcuda73
    @Jydcuda73 Год назад

    Awesome ! I need to do this to a B body housing I have for my 70 Duster!

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Can do. If you go custom, Strange can get you axles for around the same price. Doctor diff may can trim these for little cost too

    • @Jydcuda73
      @Jydcuda73 Год назад

      @@JustMoparJoe I have used Doc Diff products but I will probably go with strange for the extra insurance. I’ll be putting this behind a 360 based 426 stroker (Hughes Engines Kit) hopefully the combo will net 600 hp

  • @jimmyford796
    @jimmyford796 Год назад

    Pipe cutter works great.

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Worked out nicely! I need a new wheel for it

  • @IndirectConnection1
    @IndirectConnection1 Год назад +1

    Nice!!

  • @stannelson2582
    @stannelson2582 Год назад

    Loved it especially at the end!

  • @speedbuggy4095
    @speedbuggy4095 Год назад

    Man we need to do this to my Duster.

  • @russell4799
    @russell4799 Год назад

    That's a good video Joe

  • @JonnyMopar
    @JonnyMopar Год назад

    Great video JMJ.

  • @NathansMoparGarage
    @NathansMoparGarage Год назад

    I had that done long ago and it was not cheap

  • @rickyfulks889
    @rickyfulks889 Год назад

    Easier said than done

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      It’s true. We had some hours into this. But it came out as nice or better than stock.

  • @big3fan916
    @big3fan916 Год назад

    For my Satellite we cut the ends off of a C - body 8 3/4 and welded them on a Dana 60 from a 74 Dodge 3/4 ton truck , reused the original 4.10 gears and put them on a Strange spool and Strange 35 spline axles - factory B-body with . Still running the 74 gears knock on wood lol

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      That’s excellent! If I had to do another for myself, I’d probably find a Dana with 4.10’s and buy new axles and housing ends.

  • @alanmize5627
    @alanmize5627 Год назад

    thats a dang good job

  • @jefftrogman2574
    @jefftrogman2574 Год назад

    Hi Joe , I did the same thing for my dart sport. Only I used a C body housing and I removed 4.75 in from each side. My housing was down to 50 in. But I did not use a center chuck I just used the Dr Diff axel’s in each side and angle iron and hose clamps. That worked out great.

  • @budlanctot3060
    @budlanctot3060 Год назад

    Looks like a perfectly good way to do it.
    Many years ago. I had Henry's Axle(?) shorten & respline some C-body (wagon?) axle shafts in order to get Big Bolt pattern and 11x2-1/2 finned drums to fit my 8-3/4" housing. Worked like a champ.

  • @rayowens4355
    @rayowens4355 Год назад

    Great video Joe!

  • @robertcorrea8161
    @robertcorrea8161 Год назад

    Very nice job.

  • @MidnightOilsRestoration
    @MidnightOilsRestoration Год назад

    The epitome of a useful video right there brother 👏👏👏! You can bet that I will be doing the same thing for my dart soon! Thanks Joe, you just saved me about $2000 last I checked 😅

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Right on! My best advice is do it when it cools off outside

  • @rodneybyrd9516
    @rodneybyrd9516 Год назад

    Joe I bought the bushings and solid steel rod to center the housing ends to the carrier differential bearing bores, but I can't see anything wrong with your methods!! I need to get off my ass and prep that C-body unit for my '68 Dart. Should be child's play compared to mini-tubbing and moving the springs in!!

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Thanks Rod! Little work and she’s done 😅

  • @HoosierGarage
    @HoosierGarage Год назад

    And this, is what I'm gonna do..lol

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      Awesome! It seems like everyone runs into this problem. We just need to sell A body housings out the back of a van…

    • @HoosierGarage
      @HoosierGarage Год назад

      @@JustMoparJoe will have to discuss an idea i have with you abour getting these to do just that.

  • @704406bbl
    @704406bbl Год назад

    Great video. I have a 8 3/4' rear axle out of a '73 new Yorker that I'm saving for a spare for my roadrunners. Just a regular guy doing what needs to be done. It's American innovation!

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Right on! Do the best you can with what you got!

  • @1563smb
    @1563smb Год назад

    Very cool 😎

  • @rickseeman5679
    @rickseeman5679 Год назад

    Good job

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      Thank you! This where I needed a lathe for those axle housing ends

  • @cjm5002
    @cjm5002 Год назад

    Good stuff! This is a good hand-me-down of an old technique! I will be honest, I was a little sad that you did do it exactly the way I already knew how. I was hoping to learn a new trick this week, haha! No matter, you just reaffirmed my own method as viable to the internet world.... take that you armchair comment bosses!

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Absolutely! I stole it straight from RUclips a few years back. I did a 2 part on cutting down an 8.8 ford.

  • @Mopardude
    @Mopardude Год назад

    Good info, Joe!

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      Thanks brother. It’s not high end, but as good as factory

  • @garryhatchett775
    @garryhatchett775 Год назад

    Nice work Joe. I sent a c-body housing and axles to moser. The axles looked great but the welding on the housing was disappointingly crude. Yours looks great.

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад

      Sorry to hear that! My hobart will weld 3/16” stuff. I have a blister on my right hand now, through the leather gloves!

  • @BigMikesHooptyBarn
    @BigMikesHooptyBarn Год назад

    Now that's something that I might attempt!

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      I thought of you when I did this one! Lol

    • @BigMikesHooptyBarn
      @BigMikesHooptyBarn Год назад

      @@JustMoparJoe That's Awesome. I don't know if I'll have time to do something like that before the No Names.

  • @TonysHotRodGarage
    @TonysHotRodGarage Год назад

    Great video brother! I'm in the process of putting a B-Body 8-3/4 under the truck!🏁

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Awesome! Good luck buddy. Tag me in that description. I look forward to it. 👍🏼

    • @TonysHotRodGarage
      @TonysHotRodGarage Год назад

      @@JustMoparJoe will do!

  • @lautburns4829
    @lautburns4829 Год назад

    And guys don’t forget the 9.25 axle assembly. You can do that one too.!

    • @JustMoparJoe
      @JustMoparJoe  Год назад +1

      Absolutely! I believe they did that on the gas tap

  • @bradsrestorations1085
    @bradsrestorations1085 Год назад

    That was a great video. Your welding is excellent! That baby will outlast us all.

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 Год назад

    Professional tip rotation for line following to ensure that you have a good straight cut.

  • @mikemcdaniel2570
    @mikemcdaniel2570 Год назад

    Just a good everyday description on how to do it. One everybody can understand

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 Год назад

    Chunk will not be a big mess now beautiful work.

  • @toddselph5992
    @toddselph5992 Год назад

    Turned out nice! Great job!

  • @TB65x47
    @TB65x47 Год назад

    Well done! Thanks!

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 Год назад

    Looking solid JMJ