Good day Sir! I just want to thank you for all of your saddle hunting content. You give great honest non-biased reviews and opinions. I am a first time saddle hunter this year and your content has reduced the learning curve tremendously! I truly think I have a great setup and it's still getting better. I just installed these USA attachments to my (4) Beast Gear Minis. I know this is going to be one of the quickest, quietest, and most stable options out there. I had great first year success with the saddle and took my first two deer out the of the saddle, a doe and a mature 7 pointer. I am absolutely ADDICTED!! Again, I truly appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos. They are well done and simply the best we could want as beginners.... and by the way... I am getting into saddle hunting as a 50+ year old... dang... that sounds old!!... but I am super active and go at them hard.... Have a great day and keep up the great work! DW
Here is a helpful tip. It may take a extra second but well worth it when you're trying to stay quiet. This only works if you have a long enough rope. After your throw your rope around the tree, go another time around the tree but go under your stick for the second time. This will help girth around the tree and prevent any kind or roll or slip. You also dont have to cinch the prusik as tight.
Awesome video, thanks for sharing. Related, this noise at 01:40 is why I never wear my wedding ring while hunting (yes, this is a demo, I know!). Thanks again :D
Really like this guys videos and insights and noted he has not posted in several months. Is this now a “dead channel?” Hope not…keep the videos coming!
Tried this a while ago about a year ago and after a while i went back to the amsteel daisy chain it was just simply easier to put on and remove from the tree. But good luck using it.
With the six remaining steps I had with no woopies I bent the loop where the bury end of the woopie attaches to the cranfod step in so it touches the step and threaded a rachet strap through them and now have a ring of six steps rock solid if u get them real tight on the tree......cranford makes good products
Thanks for sharing! I bought timber ninja carbon sticks, they’re really nice and all but the straps that came with it are horrible! After watching this video, I immediately bought those. Thank you!
Spencer, i heard you say at the end of the video that it takes 2 hands to cinch down so this probably wouldn't be a good route to go to use it on a one stick instead of a cam cleat? thanks
Hi there wondering if sometime you might review Zach Snyders mini platform that attaches to your one stick climbing. Have used this fall bow hunting haven't been disappointed great mini platform built like a tank
Wonder if this would work on a one stick with a platform attached like the ultimate one stick? I wonder if it would hold tight enough to handle the side pressure. maybe you could do a short video on that
am i the only one noticing the stick twisting when hes on the stop step? i like the light weight and fastness of this method but it seems less stable than a daisy chain or a rope mod
@@SaddleHunter I bought cranfird 20 rope on steps from jays and used 4 of the woopies on the sticks and 1 on each of my platforms feels like they are glued to the tree and they bite and set awesome
This is the same method I use with oplux and a prusik alot cheaper to build than amsteel cpl guys have vids on RUclips on building them outta existing rope mods by far my favorite attachment method
@@SaddleHunter I use Amsteel on my farm arborist work. However I use it for my rope puller or come-a-long applications. I climb trees with a camp Samson Predator rope which is 14.2 mm. I also have several 8mm tactical oplux which I have a factory sewn 6mm prusik on. I think I would use it rather than the Amsteel for these reasons. The Amsteel works great as a cable but not for girth hitching. It tends to fray on bark. When it does this the integrity is compromised & it can make snagging noise. The outside coating on the Oplux is much tougher & quieter. I like the slightly smaller prusik on the tether. I actually have a lanyard on 1 of my saddles that I rig camo prusik on. It's not weight bearing but u can put a small carabiner like the 1 WEI offers & use it to girth hitch the tree with your tether. That way the lanyard is attached to both loops on either side of u & the girth hitch will not move. The big advantage to this is u can sway to 1 direction & not the other. By switching what side u put the prusik on your lanyard being the right or the left side depends which way u can sway. The quietest & safest way to shoot from a tree & the only way u will have noise is with your foothold. It's called a floater on a lanyard, but I like to think of it as a choker.
I use a daisy chain on the predator platform with great success. After I get set up and notice the back standoff isn’t firm against the tree I’ll lift the platform up with 1 foot and stand on the top post then cam it over with my feet.
I believe its bungee cord, which helps wrap / fasten the strap to sticks (since it can stretch to the nearest attachment point whether versa button or cleat.
I have owned my Hawk sticks since before they shipped with versa buttons. I had to make my own and you can see the process in an old video I have called "How to Modify Hawk Heliums". Essentially I used a grade 8 bolt, fender washer, and a small metal spacer.
I’m not seeing an advantage to the Amsteel rope mod. This idea was kicked around with climbing rope and prussic 10 years ago on Archery Talk. Most people went back to rope mod with either rope, Amsteel or webbing. Love the channel btw. Your passion is awesome.
For me the advantage is not having to monkey with half hitches in the dark, I'm not a big fan of that. I'm genuinely curious about the angle comment, because I've heard that before. Why is it different? The concluding amount of sag is the same, the stick just doesn't sit as far to get there. I know it has nothing to do with stretch because amsteel doesn't stretch.
Good day Sir! I just want to thank you for all of your saddle hunting content. You give great honest non-biased reviews and opinions. I am a first time saddle hunter this year and your content has reduced the learning curve tremendously! I truly think I have a great setup and it's still getting better. I just installed these USA attachments to my (4) Beast Gear Minis. I know this is going to be one of the quickest, quietest, and most stable options out there. I had great first year success with the saddle and took my first two deer out the of the saddle, a doe and a mature 7 pointer. I am absolutely ADDICTED!! Again, I truly appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos. They are well done and simply the best we could want as beginners.... and by the way... I am getting into saddle hunting as a 50+ year old... dang... that sounds old!!... but I am super active and go at them hard.... Have a great day and keep up the great work! DW
Here is a helpful tip. It may take a extra second but well worth it when you're trying to stay quiet.
This only works if you have a long enough rope.
After your throw your rope around the tree, go another time around the tree but go under your stick for the second time. This will help girth around the tree and prevent any kind or roll or slip. You also dont have to cinch the prusik as tight.
Good tip! Thanks for throwing it out there.
thanks for sharing! I watched this and bought these immediately. Solves the issues I had with the tethrd versastrap.
Awesome video, thanks for sharing. Related, this noise at 01:40 is why I never wear my wedding ring while hunting (yes, this is a demo, I know!). Thanks again :D
Really like this guys videos and insights and noted he has not posted in several months. Is this now a “dead channel?” Hope not…keep the videos coming!
Thanks for watching man! I’m about to upload a video and have a pile ready to go. I just got busy with a newborn and hunting over the fall.
Tried this a while ago about a year ago and after a while i went back to the amsteel daisy chain it was just simply easier to put on and remove from the tree. But good luck using it.
Just ordered some. Super excited to try it!
With the six remaining steps I had with no woopies I bent the loop where the bury end of the woopie attaches to the cranfod step in so it touches the step and threaded a rachet strap through them and now have a ring of six steps rock solid if u get them real tight on the tree......cranford makes good products
Good job
Thanks for sharing! I bought timber ninja carbon sticks, they’re really nice and all but the straps that came with it are horrible! After watching this video, I immediately bought those.
Thank you!
Super awesome idea
pretty slick attachment method
I think it will work well for a lot of guys.
Spencer, i heard you say at the end of the video that it takes 2 hands to cinch down so this probably wouldn't be a good route to go to use it on a one stick instead of a cam cleat? thanks
Wonder if there is a way to do like a prusik tender type thing with it so you could use one hand to tighten
A wooosie chain is a one handed method that is a similar style
Jax, can you elaborate? Googling woosie chain gets me nothing.
still think the standard rope mod is the best . around the tree under the button and behind the rope
It’s a cool idea. But everyone is trying to reinvent the wheel. The can buckle straps work just fine
Is this still your Go-To for rope mod?
I’m finally over my standard straps that come with the platforms.
Have you tried the PSH rope? I’m wondering how they compare to ease of use and taking down.
PSH is amazing, I love min
Fantastic. Thanks again!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks again!
Hi there wondering if sometime you might review Zach Snyders mini platform that attaches to your one stick climbing. Have used this fall bow hunting haven't been disappointed great mini platform built like a tank
Awesome!
Wonder if this would work on a one stick with a platform attached like the ultimate one stick? I wonder if it would hold tight enough to handle the side pressure. maybe you could do a short video on that
I can't find these to buy anywhere!!!!
Do you think over time and weather, this could fail in any way?
Is the continuous loop (7/64) for the Prussik full buried as well ?
Have to put a prusik tender on those. Lol
Is the 7/64 continuous loop full bury as well??
am i the only one noticing the stick twisting when hes on the stop step? i like the light weight and fastness of this method but it seems less stable than a daisy chain or a rope mod
Nice
Ever try a woopie sling off of a cranford rope on step ......works awesome on the hawk mini sticks I have
No I haven't but I am a big fan of that whoopie sling system.
@@SaddleHunter I bought cranfird 20 rope on steps from jays and used 4 of the woopies on the sticks and 1 on each of my platforms feels like they are glued to the tree and they bite and set awesome
Cranford
Good video as always. Cool idea but I still dont think it beats a good old daisy chain.
Thanks man, the advantage that I see is not having to worry about landing between loops.
@@SaddleHunter that’s exactly why I didn’t like daisy chains and went back to buckles. This seems way better, I’m going to have to try these.
This is the same method I use with oplux and a prusik alot cheaper to build than amsteel cpl guys have vids on RUclips on building them outta existing rope mods by far my favorite attachment method
Have you ever considered using a 6mm cord?
@@SaddleHunter I use Amsteel on my farm arborist work. However I use it for my rope puller or come-a-long applications. I climb trees with a camp Samson Predator rope which is 14.2 mm. I also have several 8mm tactical oplux which I have a factory sewn 6mm prusik on. I think I would use it rather than the Amsteel for these reasons. The Amsteel works great as a cable but not for girth hitching. It tends to fray on bark. When it does this the integrity is compromised & it can make snagging noise. The outside coating on the Oplux is much tougher & quieter. I like the slightly smaller prusik on the tether. I actually have a lanyard on 1 of my saddles that I rig camo prusik on. It's not weight bearing but u can put a small carabiner like the 1 WEI offers & use it to girth hitch the tree with your tether. That way the lanyard is attached to both loops on either side of u & the girth hitch will not move. The big advantage to this is u can sway to 1 direction & not the other. By switching what side u put the prusik on your lanyard being the right or the left side depends which way u can sway. The quietest & safest way to shoot from a tree & the only way u will have noise is with your foothold. It's called a floater on a lanyard, but I like to think of it as a choker.
Nice, I ordered one when they came out to try on the predator platform. Have you tried it on a platform yet?
No I have not.
I use a daisy chain on the predator platform with great success. After I get set up and notice the back standoff isn’t firm against the tree I’ll lift the platform up with 1 foot and stand on the top post then cam it over with my feet.
Maybe you could rig up some type of tender that attaches to the versa button to be able to tighten it 1-handed???
I tried a few things and couldn't get something to work like I had hoped.
They make one now.
What is in the end of your amsteel the bungee thing
I believe its bungee cord, which helps wrap / fasten the strap to sticks (since it can stretch to the nearest attachment point whether versa button or cleat.
Just received mine unfortunately didn't like it .took prusic off used like reg rope mod works better In my opinion but digging 1/8 in size
Good video. What did you use to replace the stock versa button on your Hawks and why did you replace it?
I have owned my Hawk sticks since before they shipped with versa buttons. I had to make my own and you can see the process in an old video I have called "How to Modify Hawk Heliums". Essentially I used a grade 8 bolt, fender washer, and a small metal spacer.
They look awesome, but a bit out of my reach at $25 a pop. 😳
I’m not seeing an advantage to the Amsteel rope mod. This idea was kicked around with climbing rope and prussic 10 years ago on Archery Talk. Most people went back to rope mod with either rope, Amsteel or webbing. Love the channel btw. Your passion is awesome.
Thanks Kevin! For me the advantage is not having to tie half hitches in the dark, I really don't like doing that.
@@SaddleHunter ok, that makes sense
Truckers it instead. Did that with paracord. 🤪. Check out my vampire bite on the lwcg doubles
I'm not a big fan of the truckers, too much fiddle factor in the dark.
Price?
$25 each. He has a link in the description.
Nice- not 25$ each nice though.
Yeah that full bury rope and continuous loop are time intensive and require a lot of material.
Maybe instead of the Prussik that is hard to break try the double michoacan that JRB demonstrates at ruclips.net/video/J8y-xl73sMU/видео.html
Take my $$$
well sH$T
I see no advantage over a reg. rope mod....and by increasing the upward angle of the rope around the tree you are inviting a kick-out!!! No bueno!!
For me the advantage is not having to monkey with half hitches in the dark, I'm not a big fan of that. I'm genuinely curious about the angle comment, because I've heard that before. Why is it different? The concluding amount of sag is the same, the stick just doesn't sit as far to get there. I know it has nothing to do with stretch because amsteel doesn't stretch.
Too bad the idea was stolen from someone else and portrayed as his. Won’t get my money.