I really like the XOP platform, I just wish they would get them back in stock. As for your videos, I have been saddle hunting for many years and I constantly learn new cool little nuggets every time I watch one. Keep them coming.
@hangfreeco got them in and have used them 2x but they are amazing man!!! Save me probably 10min climbing coming from daisy chain n truckers hitch...greatly made also I'll definitely be recommending you guys in the future thanks again
Suggest using the schwabish hitch to the people saying it gets too tight. There are several friction hitches that bight very well without requiring any extra steps to move them after taking the load off. I can’t remember the one I use but it won’t work with a continuous loop so I had to make dog bones or wishbones.. whichever. But they never get too tight but don’t slip either.
The H.F.A.S. is in fact a Schwabisch Hitch for the 1/8 and 3/16 configurations. The 1/4 H.F.A.S. is a Three Wrap Prusik as the size of the main line and Prusik don't necessitate anything more. Not completely sure what you are saying but hope this clears things up if you were, in fact, asking a question. Have a great day!
The main line will last longer than the prusik. That being said, there are lots of variables that can shorten or lengthen the life of your prusik. At the very least it should last a season at THE VERY LEAST assuming there isn't some sort of abrasion happening. Generally speaking, if you see any sort of fraying with the amsteel, change out the prusiks.
Glad you love em! The feedback we have got from our customers has been incredible. Every single customer has said they have recommended the HFAS to one of their buddies. If you pan on leaving the hang on on the tree for longer than a sit or two, go with the 1/4 HFAS. It’s perfect for that.
Genuine observations and questions: How is this attachment method mechanically/physically different than using a traditional cam buckle & strap? Both attachment methods go around the tree, loop over the versa button, and pull tight. Both can be lengthened/shortened with one hand. It seems the traditional cam buckle mechanism is just replaced with a prusik knot setup. Other then a tiny weight savings, what is the main advantage of your system over the tried and true strap setup? Metal (cam buckle) on metal (stick) sound deadoning can easily be mitigated as well.
we appreciate the question and it is a fair one. The H.F.A.S. is faster, lighter, and quieter. We can sit here and debate those things all day but honestly, just go take a look at our reviews and you can see what our customers have to say instead of us. We are biased, customers that spent their hard earned money with us are not. If you had any other questions, give us a call and we'd be happy to answer them!
@hangfreeco I appreciate the speedy response; thank you. I think your H.F.A.S. shows good innovation on the classic cam buckle design. I wish you and your customers nothing but success with it.
@@DontjeB We appreciate that. Please let us know if you need anything in the future and we would be happy to help. Good luck and stay safe the rest of this season!
Im still having trouble trying to set this up on my xwing platform. Its not tight at all. I had to put a new D ring on and put the prusik back on so not sure if i messed up there.
Good question, we get asked this a lot. All of our products are tested for very specific purposes and we maintain very specific standards for those purposes. The H.F.A.S. was created for sticks, stands, and platforms and we test all of the H.F.A.S. variations to standards that are we maintain for that purpose. Long story short, we cannot recommend using the H.F.A.S. as anything other than a stick, stand, or platform attachment.
Gotcha. Just saw your amsteel and lineman’s on the website…so that answers my bigger question. Why do you think more people don’t use amsteel in those applications?
@@jerbyng Amsteel bites really hard so if you aren't experienced with prusiks and hitches you will most likely struggle to use them as a tether and lineman's,, at least at first. Amsteel also isn't great for shock loads which scares a lot of people away. The reality is you can't fall far enough with a lineman's or tether to put enough force on the amsteel to break it (plus at minimum we are using 3/16 amsteel for the main line which is already ridiculously strong as is). The longest tether length we sell is around 8 feet so its physically impossible for a fall to occur further than a couple feet. Amsteel makes for a great tether and lineman's, you just have to know and be proficient with rope handling and prusik manipulation.
The 1 inch molle clips are just tough to put on the webbing in general unfortunately. They work great and are incredibly affordable, they are just tough to get on. Generally speaking though, you'd much rather have them be really tight than a little loose. We apologize for not being able to provide a "better method".
Unfortunately, at this time we do not ship to Canada. Although we do have customers ship to friends or family close to the border and then go pick it up from them. We apologize for the inconvenience.
I got one of these for my platform, broke the little plastic tender the first time I tested it out. Ive used it for one 5 hour hunt. Once I got the stand set, it didnt budge the rest of the hunt. Id recommend it to a friend. However I will be figuring out a beefier tender
Email us and we will get you a new D-Ring. If the D ring broke it could possible be a faulty D-Ring or improper use. The H.F.A.S. doesn't need to be cinched tight all the way like other attachment methods before camming down. Contact us and we will get you taken care of.
As long as the loops fit over it, it will cinch. Just make sure any hard edges and corners are taped over to ensure there isn't any major rubbing or wearing and you should be good to go!
Glad we could clear some things up. Sometimes the HFAS is so simple people are asking what else there is to it. This video has been a long time coming! Thanks for watching!
Received mine after waiting a couple weeks, still cannot get it tightened enough not to scare the hell out of me, simple prusix knot doesn't get tight enough for me. unsatisfied. Back to a ratchet strap I guess.
If you cannot get the H.F.A.S. tight enough on a stick, or a platform, something is being done wrong in the set up. The only complaint ever lodged against the H.F.A.S. is it get TOO tight, not the opposite. If you would like to email or call us we would be happy to try and help you figure out whats going on.
Why don’t you just use cam cleats? That would be easier than needing 2 hands to loosen the prusik. Also I think the schwabish hitch would loosen easier
Hey Tony, so for one, cam cleats for 4 sticks jumps the price up significantly. IF thats not an issue, by all means, go that route. You also have to modify most sticks on the market to put them on. Second, the hitch used on the H.F.A.S. is a schwabisch hitch. For sticks with a versa button, its by far the easiest method on the market.
I like the sit 90 degree to put platform on. I will have to do that now on
I really like the XOP platform, I just wish they would get them back in stock. As for your videos, I have been saddle hunting for many years and I constantly learn new cool little nuggets every time I watch one. Keep them coming.
The people over at XOP are good people that care about their customers. Thanks for watching and we will be posting more videos soon!
5:30 OMG!! I never thought of that! It's only my 2nd season with a saddle.
Just ordered 4 today cant wait to use them. Definitely going to be faster than the daisy chain and truckers hitch I currently use
It will make a huge difference for you!
@hangfreeco got them in and have used them 2x but they are amazing man!!! Save me probably 10min climbing coming from daisy chain n truckers hitch...greatly made also I'll definitely be recommending you guys in the future thanks again
I use HFAS on all my sticks as well as my platform and on my tree stand. Works great
Suggest using the schwabish hitch to the people saying it gets too tight. There are several friction hitches that bight very well without requiring any extra steps to move them after taking the load off. I can’t remember the one I use but it won’t work with a continuous loop so I had to make dog bones or wishbones.. whichever. But they never get too tight but don’t slip either.
The H.F.A.S. is in fact a Schwabisch Hitch for the 1/8 and 3/16 configurations. The 1/4 H.F.A.S. is a Three Wrap Prusik as the size of the main line and Prusik don't necessitate anything more. Not completely sure what you are saying but hope this clears things up if you were, in fact, asking a question. Have a great day!
Just ordered a few of the HFASL, how frequently should these be replaced?
The main line will last longer than the prusik. That being said, there are lots of variables that can shorten or lengthen the life of your prusik. At the very least it should last a season at THE VERY LEAST assuming there isn't some sort of abrasion happening. Generally speaking, if you see any sort of fraying with the amsteel, change out the prusiks.
Love mine! Using them on 3 beast sticks with aiders. Thinking about purchasing them for my hang-on.
Glad you love em! The feedback we have got from our customers has been incredible. Every single customer has said they have recommended the HFAS to one of their buddies. If you pan on leaving the hang on on the tree for longer than a sit or two, go with the 1/4 HFAS. It’s perfect for that.
Genuine observations and questions:
How is this attachment method mechanically/physically different than using a traditional cam buckle & strap? Both attachment methods go around the tree, loop over the versa button, and pull tight. Both can be lengthened/shortened with one hand. It seems the traditional cam buckle mechanism is just replaced with a prusik knot setup. Other then a tiny weight savings, what is the main advantage of your system over the tried and true strap setup? Metal (cam buckle) on metal (stick) sound deadoning can easily be mitigated as well.
we appreciate the question and it is a fair one. The H.F.A.S. is faster, lighter, and quieter. We can sit here and debate those things all day but honestly, just go take a look at our reviews and you can see what our customers have to say instead of us. We are biased, customers that spent their hard earned money with us are not. If you had any other questions, give us a call and we'd be happy to answer them!
@hangfreeco
I appreciate the speedy response; thank you. I think your H.F.A.S. shows good innovation on the classic cam buckle design. I wish you and your customers nothing but success with it.
@@DontjeB We appreciate that. Please let us know if you need anything in the future and we would be happy to help. Good luck and stay safe the rest of this season!
Im still having trouble trying to set this up on my xwing platform. Its not tight at all. I had to put a new D ring on and put the prusik back on so not sure if i messed up there.
Email us and explain your problem and we will help you out. If its not getting tight, it's not being used properly.
I am using it to one stick and it works awesome!
Glad to hear it!
Could the 3/16 full bury be used as a tether or linemans? Obviously WITHOUT a mechanical tender.
Good question, we get asked this a lot. All of our products are tested for very specific purposes and we maintain very specific standards for those purposes. The H.F.A.S. was created for sticks, stands, and platforms and we test all of the H.F.A.S. variations to standards that are we maintain for that purpose. Long story short, we cannot recommend using the H.F.A.S. as anything other than a stick, stand, or platform attachment.
Gotcha. Just saw your amsteel and lineman’s on the website…so that answers my bigger question. Why do you think more people don’t use amsteel in those applications?
@@jerbyng Amsteel bites really hard so if you aren't experienced with prusiks and hitches you will most likely struggle to use them as a tether and lineman's,, at least at first. Amsteel also isn't great for shock loads which scares a lot of people away. The reality is you can't fall far enough with a lineman's or tether to put enough force on the amsteel to break it (plus at minimum we are using 3/16 amsteel for the main line which is already ridiculously strong as is). The longest tether length we sell is around 8 feet so its physically impossible for a fall to occur further than a couple feet. Amsteel makes for a great tether and lineman's, you just have to know and be proficient with rope handling and prusik manipulation.
Will these also work with the Trophyline Hyperlites sticks?
They will with a few adjustments. For more info on that give us a call or shoot us an email.
nice. What is the purpose of the prussic manager?
The Tender makes moving the Prusik itself quite a bit easier.
Can you show us how to attach the one inch molle clips? They are hard to get on my saddle... Looking for a vid of how to put them on easier. Ty
The 1 inch molle clips are just tough to put on the webbing in general unfortunately. They work great and are incredibly affordable, they are just tough to get on. Generally speaking though, you'd much rather have them be really tight than a little loose. We apologize for not being able to provide a "better method".
Do you ship to Canada and do you sell the pusik separate
Unfortunately, at this time we do not ship to Canada. Although we do have customers ship to friends or family close to the border and then go pick it up from them. We apologize for the inconvenience.
I’m guessing the 3/16” would be fine on the sticks for us larger guys that want a little buffer.
Yep. If you are a bigger hunter we do recommend using those 3/16 for your sticks. They work the same way so there is no learning curve!
@@hangfreecowhat’s the load index in this setup?
@@michaelvantiem6801 The WLL is 320 lb.
Is it 1/8 for sticks and 3/16 for the xop edge?
Generally speaking, yes.
man that is one good looking tree yuou have there!
You should have seen what it took to get it there lol!
I got one of these for my platform, broke the little plastic tender the first time I tested it out. Ive used it for one 5 hour hunt. Once I got the stand set, it didnt budge the rest of the hunt. Id recommend it to a friend. However I will be figuring out a beefier tender
Email us and we will get you a new D-Ring. If the D ring broke it could possible be a faulty D-Ring or improper use. The H.F.A.S. doesn't need to be cinched tight all the way like other attachment methods before camming down. Contact us and we will get you taken care of.
Any issues using these on the square attachment point on the tethrd on stick, or is it still fairly simple to get over it
As long as the loops fit over it, it will cinch. Just make sure any hard edges and corners are taped over to ensure there isn't any major rubbing or wearing and you should be good to go!
Is the hitch a continuous loop or 7/64”?
So the continuous loop is 7/64 for the 1/8 size and 1/8 for the 3/16 size H.F.A.S.
3/16" for platforms?
3/16 Full Bury for platforms. The 3/16 LYTE version is for sticks.
great video, very informative !
Glad we could clear some things up. Sometimes the HFAS is so simple people are asking what else there is to it. This video has been a long time coming! Thanks for watching!
Are those amsteal ropes on the H.F.A.S. full bury amsteal?
Yessir. All Hang Free Attachment systems are going to be full bury!
@@hangfreeco what size amsteal do you use for platforms? 3/16", 1/4"/?
@@paulcrave3112 For platforms we recommend 3/16. Our most popular is 3/16 although some people do opt to use 1/4 for the platforms.
@@hangfreeco3/16 full bury is 3/16 doubled! Wich is plenty for a hang on stand to support you
Awesome video. Thank you
No problem! Thank you for watching. We really appreciate it.
Received mine after waiting a couple weeks, still cannot get it tightened enough not to scare the hell out of me, simple prusix knot doesn't get tight enough for me. unsatisfied. Back to a ratchet strap I guess.
If you cannot get the H.F.A.S. tight enough on a stick, or a platform, something is being done wrong in the set up. The only complaint ever lodged against the H.F.A.S. is it get TOO tight, not the opposite. If you would like to email or call us we would be happy to try and help you figure out whats going on.
Why don’t you just use cam cleats? That would be easier than needing 2 hands to loosen the prusik. Also I think the schwabish hitch would loosen easier
Hey Tony, so for one, cam cleats for 4 sticks jumps the price up significantly. IF thats not an issue, by all means, go that route. You also have to modify most sticks on the market to put them on. Second, the hitch used on the H.F.A.S. is a schwabisch hitch. For sticks with a versa button, its by far the easiest method on the market.
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