Dodge Challenger SXT AWD Review V6 vs V8 Cost Comparison Tool
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2023
- In this video, I complete my review of a 2022 @Dodge Challenger V6 AWD (all-wheel drive) and I create a spreadsheet to compare the cost of ownership between the various trims from the V6 rear-wheel drive to the V8 super-charged 6.2L Hellcat. Leave me a comment if you'd like to see some specific trims compared if I don't cover them in my video and I'll post screenshot of the spreadsheet total cost differences in the community tab. If you're like me, you're likely obsessed with the Dodge Challenger in all its configurations and can't stop thinking about buying a Dodge Challenger in this "Last Call" year of 2023. I know I mentally debate the Challenger V6 versus the V8 and it often comes back to the same question of "What's it worth to you?" as if you can put a price on loving that burble from the powerful V8 vs. the everyday efficiency of the V6 with all the style we love from the Challenger. In a perfect world, we'd own both 🤣.
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I just got my 2022 SXT two days ago - and I love it. Pitch Black paint, tinted windows and all blacked out. I’m with you, man. I’m on the doorway to 50, always wanted a muscle car and never got it. Made sensible choices for early-career commutes and then SUVs for kid and friend transport. But this time it’s for ME, and I’m loving it!
Way to go, brother!!👍💪. So glad to hear you’re loving it, too! Ooh, black with the tinted windows must look plain mean 😠👍…sweet! I truly love that SXT hood the most and it makes that car just standout! Enjoy your muscle car and thanks for stopping in to watch and sharing your car with us! 🙏
@@WorksIRL Thank ya! Spent this weekend doing the detail the car lot should have :-) Getting ready for the last Somernites Cruise of 2023 in a couple of weekends!
I'm on the same page as you.
Just turned 51, and I'm trying to make a decision between the 6cyl Challenger and the 6cyl Camaro.
I'll be test-driving both of them, and then I'll have to make a decision.
Whichever one I get, I'll be driving it for 20 years or longer...lol
You just can't beat the simplicity and old school concept of both cars.
I really can't wait to be sitting in one of my own.
@@realityfitnessfyt4lyfe248I’m of course super biased now, but for me, it was never really a choice - Challenger all the way. A lifelong obsession since I was a teen and first watched Vanishing Point on VHS! Took me 35 years but I finally fulfilled that wish for a Challenger! The V6 angle doesn’t bother me at all - it’s plenty fast enough for my needs and can zip in and out of traffic like a champ. I ain’t gonna race anytime soon :)
Oh man, tough choice but I’d say at this point you can’t go wrong no matter which you go with as you’ll be driving in full retro sports style either way 🤘. Keep us posted please and thanks for watching and dropping in to let us know about your big decision you face 💪👍!
Good stuff buddy.. Keep up the grind. Very unique video
Thank you, RacerX! I really appreciate you taking time to stop over and drop your nice feedback!! I really dig your videos and your style!! 💪👍😎
Absolutely outstanding video! Really love the detailed breakdown and comparison. He’s challengers really really do connect with us Car people in some way that’s hard to explain. Thank you for the kind shout out and more importantly the shared friendship on RUclips
Thank you so much! It really means a lot to me having your kind response so quickly after posting! Sometimes it can feel sort of fruitless working through putting a video together only to have it lay there silently so you just made my day! Always appreciate your videos and keeping me up-to-date what's out there...thanks guys!
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Owned a 2014 RT for six years as a daily driver, and traded it in for a 2021 GT RWD loaded. Don't miss the 13 mpg and premium fuel prices. Getting 23 mpg and using regular. Haven't done a road trip to see the highway mileage. Only thing I miss is the 1, 2, 3 shift pulls from a dead stop and the V8 exhaust on Sunday nights. Pick up a Z automotive Tazer and you'll have all the SRT page options (i.e. Track Pack mode - which gives you faster acceleration and quicker shifts than Sport Mode). The RWD GT offers the Super Track Pak Suspension and lower ride height than the AWD version.
Awesome! Thank you so much for watching and sharing your experience in real life owning both the V8 5.7L and the V6 3.6L RWD GT! That's great to hear about the add-ons and performance benefits. Congrats on owning such a great car! 💪
Best comparison video I've seen, thank you!
I really appreciate you watching and taking time to leave me your nice feedback!
This is the video I was looking for to finally help me decide that. Yes it’s time for me to get a challenger.
That's great to hear that! I really appreciate you watching and your enthusiasm for the Challenger. Please keep us posted and good luck!💪
Great video! I’m a GT owner myself and people will tell you to upgrade to a v8. But if you’re a fan of muscle cars, just wanna cruise around with fuel efficiency and don’t care about high performance racing, and have more than enough power for daily driving, this is the perfect car.
Congrats on owning your GT! 💪Honestly, I do think those V6's provide more than enough USABLE power for everyday driving enjoyment and certainly has more horsepower than the average runabouts surrounding you on any given day. Just can't beat that "throwback" timeless styling and like you say, you can enjoy it without that constant money-suck of the V8s. Thanks for watching and keep-on enjoying your sweet GT! 👍
Very informative video, I like the breakdown on the spreadsheet. The Challenger STX is this wonderful vehicle and a terrific value in today's market.
I really appreciate you watching and leaving me you super nice feedback 🙏I agree that the STX is a super way to get such a stylish car and if it weren't for the super power of the V8 models, this V6 is a great match of power, speed and economy for everyday living. Thanks for again for watching and I hope you'll stick around.
Awesome video
Thank you! I appreciate that very much!
Excellent video! I'm on the cusp of buying a GT.
Thank you for watching and leaving your nice comment!👍 best of luck to you and I hope you get yourself one of these last of their breed stylish beauties! 💪. Keep us posted!
You give a great review of this car. I just bought one and it surprised me how you explain the whole thing. Thank you for this sir. Will have to wait till the end of the year before i can drive, all about delivery time. However i believe i made a good choice with this car.
Oh fantastic!! I'll say, I'm jealous but super happy for your wise choice! I think this will be a car you can hold onto a long, long time and not be tired of it. The styling is classic, it rides great and I speculate you'll have a grin every time you get in to sit in that driver-centric "cockpit" but it's not cramped...it's just right! Please come back and let us know how it goes when you get your's and give a video of it...I see you just signed up your channel today and I'm hopeful you'll post something with your new car. Best of luck to you and thanks for watching and leaving your very nice comment...ENJOY THAT BEAUTIFUL CAR!!!
Dodge should pay you. I bet you have convinced many to get one. You have me sold.
Thank you so much for your very kind comment! 🤣. I truly think that V6 Challenger is just a great all-around car with such classic, timeless styling. Please keep us posted if you get one! In the meantime, be sure to check out a recent video from channel "Guys Talking Cars" (GTC) where they give their 2-year, 15,000 mile ownership opinion. ruclips.net/video/SWdMfNYeHsw/видео.html
You just helped me choose. Thank you so much!
That’s great to hear! Thanks for watching and stay connected so we can hear how your experience goes! Good luck! 👍
ty for reminding me about these, I had 2x go mango once before '17 r/t and a 2018 gt awd both had pro's and cons but with northeast winter seasons i enjoyed the awd on that GT daily tad more lol ...
The V8s look/sound like a blast but I really do like the V6 for daily usage. Plain old 87-octane fuel, nice long range from full tank and I think more than adequate power for what we’re legally able to do in everyday driving yet all that style and comfort! Still think it’s a great choice! 👍. Thanks for watching and sharing your first-hand experience with both V8 R/T and V6 GT AWD! 💪
Great comparison video. I have a 2019 AWD SXT with the plus package and some other package goodies so it's pretty well configured and only 1 of 2 made the way mine is.
It's a great car but at times do get the itch for more hp but then I start thinking about insurance and gas prices as the Scat Pack and up would need premium fuel. So your comparison talked me off the ledge... for now, lol.
Consider yourself very smart for getting yours before these prices increased! 👍💪😎. I fully understand that “V8 lure” but I even like the stance of your SXT better than the V8s. Slightly higher off the ground is so much better given our overall crummy roads and debris on them and having that AWD is invaluable! There’s a reason state troopers have that same Borg Warner drivetrain because they need to be able to swing wide down into highway ditches and medians to engage pursuits so you’re in good company with that beefier front end driveline. I look at the V8s but their added fuel, maintenance, shorter tank-driving-range, insurance and now scary stolen-potential not to mention inability to drive in much foul weather just makes your SXT the perfect Grand Touring Challenger! Again, smart decision on your part! 👍💪😎
@@WorksIRL Prices have gone crazy that's for sure. Similar car as mine, even with less options, is easily like 10k more than what I paid for mine just a few years ago. Plus I've put my own touches on it to make it even more unique so yes it is hard to part with it especially when it's the color I had to have (sublime green). But when I hear that V8 rumble it's tempting but all your points are valid and good to keep in mind.
@@JV-sx3xc Funny! I just saw Scotty Kilmer posted the following only an hour ago and he says you're a smart person, too 👍ruclips.net/video/1tCKQp6ok9o/видео.html
Thanks for sharing! I'm considering buying the v6 3.6 version of the Challenger, the V8 Hellcat costs around $200k USD here in China...
Wow! Though, seriously, I've seen videos of Hellcats here in the U.S. going nearly as high with dealerships gouging buyers with massive mark-ups. It's only a matter of time and gasoline prices WILL go back up and at least the V6 gets as good mileage as most vehicles around it on the road but the Challenger at least still has some classic styling and comfort other vehicles just don't have. Good luck and keep us posted on your decision! Thanks for watching!
Most people are buying the SXT v6 or R/T 5.7l v8 and here is the thing you need to account for I think in the spreadsheet.. With the 5.7l v8 you are constantly tempted to step on it or rev or something and that totally destroys your fuel economy (every red light where you are first in line becomes a joy instead of a burden, infact you slow down to get into that position rather than trying to make the light!) and with the sound of that stock exhaust with the v8 its so hard not to do that especially with it being warmer outside and the window rolled down. If you are worried about gas prices I wouldn't be looking at a Challenger to begin with to be totally honest... As someone who owns one, I would always recommend get the v8 or get a different car but I have no hatred towards the v6.
Good on you for owning one...good choice! 💪I 💯agree with you...having that power under the hood how can you not be using it whenever possible. The V8 definitely throws the "miles per gallon" metric out the window in lieu of the "smiles per gallon" 😎Thanks for watching and sharing the honesty of owning and truly driving the V8...very valid points! ✌
Excellent spreadsheet comparison! I'm in Michigan myself and going between the V6 AWD and GT. I have a PowerWagon for winter use, but the fuel economy is garbage. But I knew that. I doesnt get driven much. Always wanted one. My daily is a 21 Wrangler Willy's with the V6 e-torque and that thing hauls! I wish they would have put the E torque in the challenger as well. It gives it a little extra oomph off the line. Wrangler is not a good daily driver especially on windy days and the seat doesn't go back far enough. Looking at a challenger or charger for the daily. And take the PowerWagon on snowy days if I go with the GT.
Hey! Hello fellow Michigander ✋👈we know what that means, don't we😆. I like the position you're in...you've got awesome choices all around 💪I love me a Power Wagon but I'll bet the mileage is eye-watering when fuel prices spike up at the pump. At least you've got it for bad Winter days...one thought, if you don't need the hauling power/cargo bed of the Power Wagon, maybe keep the Wrangler as your bad Winter sled and the Challenger for other days? Glad to hear about the Wrangler e-torque as I don't know much about those. I had a 4-door JK Sahara for eight years and loved it, even on-highway but I fully get what you're saying about aerodynamic brick and the driver's seat position 👎I still have my "older" Wranglers (LJs) which are like driving Fred Flintstone's car 🤣in comparison to anything but I just can't bring myself to give them up as they just have that "old lump of iron and steel feel" you just don't have nowadays. I admit, I might consider a Challenger V8 5.7L since it still takes 87-octane, not the more expensive fuel needed by the Scatpacks. IF you could stay off the skinny pedal I've heard their mileage isn't much different than a Wrangler V6 3.6L...but, I know I'd likely always want to press that pedal down to hear that V8. I just felt at home in the V6 AWD Challenger as it really gives you that muscle car feel without any guilt daily driving it WITH the AWD. I think if I went GT I'd rather go to the V8 as GT has all those "racing apps" which I think would be more fun in the V8 whereas the SXT at least isn't pretending to be a dragster and still gives you the muscle car look/feel. I think I'm partial to the dual-hood scoops look on the SXT, too. I'll be really curious what you go with so I hope you'll stop back and let us know. Good luck and thanks for watching and your nice comment! Try to have fun with the decision as no matter what you decide, I suspect you can't go wrong! 💪
Great video Brother! You have done the homework and now its time to pull the trigger!! We are middle aged dudes and have more life behind us than in front of us. I watched your other review as well and you obviously love the challenger. Your not overindulging by entertaining the thought of buying an sxt that’s actually a smart conservative move….I leave you with this, stop jacking around and go buy the damn thing!! Your only on this planet once and tomorrow is never promised!! You know the cost so the only question to yourself is “Can I afford it?” If the answer is Yes then so is the answer to opening the wallet!! Thumbs up on the vid👍
I really appreciate your kind words and encouragement. You're definitely speaking The backside-of-man-life Gospel to me and I'm listening! We spend so much of our lives working and focusing on keeping our family's kept and comfortable then suddenly the little kid in us comes out and still wants to play. I'm feeling it large and looking to get things underway to have some fun. Just watched your Scat Pack video and love your new addition! Have to subscribe so I don't lose track of you. Thanks again for your fantastic comment and look forward to staying in touch...hopefully I'll have something cool to add to my channel as well! Peace, Brother!
@@WorksIRL 😀👍👍I can’t wait to see yours when you grab it, you will definitely appreciate it and deserve it! We are from the same stock, I too put family first and have worked hard for many years. Its time for us to have our fun👍👍 and Thanks!! Subbed you as well
@@2RCPRODUCTIONS truly appreciate you and honored to be in your same stock 👍💪😎
Thanks for video I be 56 in June since I was teen I always wanted a Muscle car . My kids grown up with their own family it just me now I have 2020 Ram paid off some time this year God willing going go get me Dodge Challenger it won't be new but I do like STX.
I'd say you deserve it! Raising kids and doing what's right by them to get them onto their own means you paid your dues and then some...time for Dad to get some fun 😎💪Be sure you keep your eye on current new Challenger pricing as I think they may finally be coming down in price as dealers try to unload inventory...especially the SXT as you might just find a bargain and if used, likely find a low-mile gem. Best of luck to you and keep us posted how it goes. Thank you for watching and taking your valuable time to leave your nice comment 🫡🇺🇸
The button for the interior ambient lighting is only really noticeable at night. Turns off or dims the door handle lighting and footwell lighting
Ah! Thank you for filling me in on that…I wondered what it did as I just couldn’t notice what it was impacting 👍
@@WorksIRL No problem. Good video and I agree, great car
If you compare HP specifications the 2023 SXT V6 is rated 303 HP, which puts it in the vicinity of the '70 340 cid Challengers and Cudas, underrated for insurance purposes at 275HP. 383 was rated 335 HP
I just rented one for a month, it's no slouch, stomp on the throttle, it drops a gear or two then gives you that old familiar I wanna go sideways musclecar twitch as it launches!
FWIW it also handles like a CUDA not the longer wheelbase spin out and crash into fixed objects prone Challenger. Fair to say... SXT may as well be a modern AAR Cuda, just no Plymouth to build one.
edit: battery in trunk and electric tire pump from the factory... rack and pinion up front, multi link in the rear, 4 wheel disc brakes... if you wanted that in the '70s you had to build it yourself.
Wow, you laid all those specs out wonderfully! 💪 I’ve had some somewhat derogatory SXT comments in this video and my other SXT video and your fact regarding HP on some “original muscle cars” were less than this SXT not to mention the one I rented was AWD which to me is like a dream come true for a muscle car usable all year long! Thanks for expanding on details and sharing your insights! Thanks for watching and Happy New Year! ✌️
I have an '18 GT awd. Has more options than the SXT but still a better bang for the buck than the newer ones as far as a daily that can go through snow and save at the pump, insurance, payments, and taxes. I think Dodge screwed up when they mated the Hemi with the awd in the Charger and 300 but not the Challenger and all three cars have the same platform. And I hear you on the Pontiacs, I love my Grand Prix's.
Man, I really screwed up! I completely left the GT off my spreadsheet! I got into details of making/editing video and completely botched that...my apologies to you and the GT Crew since you have the hoods that look 100% identical to the R/Ts as well! 😬 I agree with you entirely that Dodge should have put the V8 in the AWD Challengers...I can only think maybe there's some slight mechanical challenge shoe-horning the BorgWarner 44-40 in with the V8 under the Challenger sub-frame...maybe? Thanks for watching and enjoy your GT AWD as I'm jealous of anyone owning these sweet cars...you folks were smart to get them when you did! 👍Hope you'll stick around by subscribing...can't promise I'll be buying one but I'm sure going to try to swing it if I can make it happen.
My Son just received his special ordered 23 last call SXT blacktop challenger in sublime with black SXT stripes. That car is awesome and what a bargain, best bang for the buck of all the trim lines for sure!
Oh, that’s a great color and must look great with those stripes 👏👍😎! Email me a shot if you’d like and I’d post it on my Community tab with a shoutout to you and/or son if you’d like! Love those cars!!
@@WorksIRL for sure what’s your email?
@@2RCPRODUCTIONS please find it under my channels About tab 👍
@@WorksIRL don’t see it bro just a website….
@@2RCPRODUCTIONS I see what you mean on RUclips "mobile app" it's different than on computer RUclips experience...I didn't know that. On computer, it's under "About" tab under channel description in a section labeled "Details" shows "For business inquires: View email address" as a way to keep interweb robots from harvesting emails in the open.
The VVT feature it has, is a caution for me, as I've read a lot of problems come with them, but Maybe it is a problem only with people who do not change their oil regularly ! Or use the proper oil for the system ! ? Donno !
I'm with you on the more complexity in anything mechanical, the more to go wrong or not work right over time. However, I do think as you state, using high-quality synthetic motor oil changed on-schedule and this 3.6L V6 is robust. If you get one, please come back and let us know!
Hi, I'm at 198,000 km on my 2014 Ram with the same engine and tranny configuration. I opted for this combo due to reports of failures specifically in the cylinder deactivation features some of the V8's are cursed with to achieve reasonable mandated mileage numbers.
That V8 powertrain's high failure rate and eye-watering diesel-like repair costs to overhead cams and valves made me choose the V6 in my truck After all, this engine is sold in such high numbers across the whole Stellantis line, parts prices will never reach unicorn status.
For years now she hauls 5k lb loads with ease up hills at any speed as long as you let her work into her torque curve, which is at much higher revs than we see in V8's.
The durability of this setup has me pondering the same V6/AWD combo in either the Charger or Challenger. As grassroot01 alluded, the issue causing VVT failure is people following factory oil change intervals. I changed mine first at 500 km to get the break-in crap out, and stuck to 3,000 mi/ ~5000 km oil changes due to short drives which I know don't cook off blow-by condensed product in the oil.
Maintenance to date amounted to: air suspension, suspension joints, regular brake work, rear bearing with diff change. oil filler tube crack (expensive as intake comes off, fixed in updates since '14).
These V6 blocks do 500k miles in work vehicles regularly with the same caveat: change oil. The only thing I'd add is to count on changing tranny fluid regularly, like the designers at ZF recommend (but not Stellantis!). Remember the factory doesn't care about your vehicle post warranty, so take care of things yourself in advance and make it last. You only get about 60% of the fluid per change so do a few. The new ZF trannies have drain plugs now. Enjoy the ride and enjoy knowing you bought something that just works and makes you smile.
@WorksIRL: I appreciate the spreadsheet approach. I do the same thing when comparing options across brands and also like to take HP/lb into account as well as it gives me a measurable for seat-of-the pants acceleration feel, and to a certain extent accommodates for increased drivetrain and suspension upgrades often associated with more HP.
One other note from users with high mileage Pentastars is that the engine tends to last longer running on mid-grade fuel, even though it's rated for 87 Octane. Perhaps working this into the long term ownership economics will give a more realistic cost picture. You can take mileage cost a significant step further by accommodating, or eliminating, ethanol blended fuels, which deliver high octane numbers but lower energy density. I'm finding greater range with mid and premium grades offset the increased cost somewhat.
Something to note for V6 enthusiasts is that there is a $10k bolt-on centrifugal blower kit made by RIPP that puts out better mileage after a re-flash with big block numbers to boot. Dyno numbers are verified as seen in their vids. Amazing stuff and would make for a great sleeper.
Man, thanks for all your detailed comments describing your amazing RAM V6 details, maintenance and opinions! 💪 I can fully appreciate the V8 lover’s enthusiasm but the balanced V6 longevity and daily-usable performance, lower purchase/maintenance costs still seems smart to me, too. One other supercharger option competing with RIPP is from ProCharger. It’s not been out very long but I like it’s fully bolt-on without any need to take to a shop after DIY install yielding additional 125hp which takes V6 to Scat Pack HP arena. Again, thank you for sharing all your insights and experiences, thanks for watching and I wish you many more powerful miles on your V6 RAM workhorse 👍💪
You got to keep in mind not everyone daily's this car
That is a good point...I'm showing my age where the original muscle cars were Dads' weekday family-haulers and weekend dragsters back in the one-car-family days 🤣. Thanks for watching and engaging!
Thanks for the video!@@WorksIRL
How is your insurance so cheap for a Dodge challenger SXT AWD? I live in the DC metro area and Geico said they would charge me like $218/month which times 12 months is over $2400 a year compared to your $600 and some change. I am around the same age as you, 57. I have to pay 4 times the amount for insurance. I need to get out of this area.
Wow, I do know locations are a huge impact on insurance rates. Apparently, Florida is THE OUTLANDISH insurance rate state! 🤯Michigan usually is in the "high realm", especially metro Detroit area I've heard can cause folks to move out due to the car insurance premium costs. I use Progressive's insurance quote system BUT I also usually carry a high-deductible to keep my insurance rates low...sort of act as my own "insurance company" as long as I keep some cash in reserve for any accidents rather than paying them higher premiums...done that most of my life just to try saving money but it can bite when accidents happen. 😤Of course, insurance companies also use credit ratings to determine rates and I've had close to 850 and no speeding tickets since I was in my 20s. So many factors in those stupid premium rates 😆Thanks for watching and joining the conversation here 👍
@WorksIRL Thank you for responding to my comment! I appreciate you and your channel. Keep up the good work. I am thinking about getting a challenger but I am having trouble deciding what trim level and options I want and need like the AWD with the V-6 or the RWD(open differential)with the V-6 or the RWD(limited slip and locking differential) with the V-8. Financially, all I can afford is the SXT, GT, or RT. In actuality the RT is probably to expensive for me to afford. Also, what I don't like about them is that they are high on the list of cars being stolen. And also a number of them have electrical, transmission, engine, etc., problems. I am thinking maybe I should just keep my very simple, humble, and very reliable Honda that gets great gas mileage.
@@AndrewSmith-uz8bgI appreciate YOU watching and leaving true, honest feedback! I'd say I'm in exactly the same mindset as you! I truly can't stomach ANY new car prices nowadays and have gotten somewhat depressed that those days may have now officially passed me by and I'll need to simply keep what I've got going as long as I can. Though, I've heard and sort of seen prices starting to get "discounts" on Challengers at a few dealerships based on CarGurus.com and just casually searching a few minutes here and there. I have to remind myself how I feel at the gas pump when prices are soaring since when prices are edging lower, it's easy to forget the pain at the pump and the old "mind over heart" has to take priority but then the old "you only live once" heart says "you deserve the V8" and the argument between my brain and my heart continues 😆. I do think this car is the last of it's "kind" in terms of feeling like "old American metal/muscle" BUT...I wouldn't be surprised there will be a "new" Challenger or Charger where they put some more fuel-efficient but still powerful 6-cylinder and it'll be the next "Big Dog". So, your Honda will likely out-live any Dodge and cost you less in the end and likely more practical for everyday usage. I do think we have some rough economic times headed our way so I'm personally fighting this same decision battle since every time I see these darned Challengers, I can't help but want one...any of them. I keep telling myself I guess I could go and rent one when I feel the need and maybe that's the cheapest way to go to get it out of my system whenever I feel like I need a "muscle car fix."😆 Keep us posted what you decide because I'm clearly no help because if I woke up with an extra lump of cash I'd probably run out and buy a Challenger R/T V8 with a manual shift 😆. Good luck!
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