is Dodge Challenger GT a true muscle car?
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- Опубликовано: 2 дек 2023
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Ppl forget the v6 is what kept the v8s alive for so long. These things sell. Not everyone needs 500+hp
I agree, car just needs to suit your needs, everyone is unique and expects different things
Not everybody,
Is a more then thoughtful correct comment sweetiepie 🥰
That’s where you get the RT trim. It’s not a lot of hp either and fairly doable as a daily
V6 is joke point blank period
@@silentagony1019 higher insurance, gas, sticker price, and its not necessary for someone that just wants a muscle looking car
I recently bought a 2023 Charger GT PLUS. Same 3.6 V6. LOVE the car! SUPER SMOOTH engine! With 300 hp and 264 ft lbs of torque my 4100 pound Charger moves pretty damn good! Not slow. Plenty of power for use as a daily driver which is what I wanted. No regrets.
I recently got a 2020 same specs as you but with 30k miles. I paid 31.5 OTD. If you don't mind sharing what did you pay OTD?
Same
It's under 3800 pounds, over 300 pounds lighter than an R/T or Scat.
Quote your source.The lightest weight I saw listed on-line with Car & Driver was 3964 pounds. Most were from 4073-4247( 4 wd model).@@mcm95403
Same I recently got a 2022, it’s very quick and powerful car. I use my car for work everyday I stay in NYC so it’s pretty practical.
You forgot one important fact about the V6s:
Nobody wants to steal them. 😂
Haha) that’s very important!:)
People steal these too just for different reasons - V6 Chally interior and body parts are interchangeable with all versions... They steal V8 Scat Pack and Hellcats either to joyride, re-tag VIN numbers, or steal the powertrains.
Exactly why I’m wanting one, but insurance says $416 a month
@@thindirtgaming1562 how are you paying so much for insurance? that’s not possible. I pay less than $500 every 6 months for full coverage for my 2018 Scat Pack Challenger.
That is encouraging. I used to do that for another vehicle. The GT is about a second slower than the RT. It’s just not worth the cash for the V8 unless you are going to the track. The GT as a daily driver is perfect.
My friend has a GT. Plenty power for the streets of NYC with our 25 MPH speed limit.
Haha) you’re right man!
This car embodies age-old quotes like "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and "Comparison is the thief of joy." I've owned the 3.6 and 5.7 at the same time in the past (currently the 5.7, moved on to a Kona N for the daily) and the 3.6 has plenty of pep. It's funny, people turn their nose up at 303hp when it's a V6 in a car that's "supposed to" have a V8. My dream V8 as a kid was the 4.6 modular and it only had 260hp. You can get over 1,000hp these days. You can get 0-60's under 2 seconds. The power wars are over. Now is the time to be focused on what makes US happy as drivers. My first 5.7 got absolutely bodied by some Alfa Romeo SUV, got home and found out it had like 600hp. But you can bet nobody's smiling and waving at that Alfa the way they do at my Challengers. There are better things than "winning" in the car world. People should focus on being the happiest they can be.
PS - I think the Pentastar sounds GREAT with a Borla exhaust, and it baffles me when people get so bent out of shape when others "try to make it sound like a V8." I literally think, "So? Let them have their fun."
What a nice, smart and kind comment! I agree with you 100%. There is no better or worse, what matters is if this makes you happy and gives you the emotion you wanted. Happy Holidays Man!
@@carsinfinityreviews You as well!
I love my GT and the chicks think it look amazing nbs😊
Good review of the car. I agree if you're not going to get a v8 don't try to make it sound like one. I would really be annoyed in a vacation drive to disneyland. lol. Well you get me. I'm a chevy guy myself but those challengers are lookers. The demon is awesome.
Thank you!
2022 sxt with rear resonators deleted and one cherry glass pack installed and a K&N air intake….. Sounds amazing 😊amazing!!!!!!!! It’s my daily driver. My summer weekend car is a 2021 c8 z51 !!!!!! But I love my challenger AkA Barney the dinosaur… Helleraisin purple !!!!!!
Discounts on this car are available. Thinking about getting a new one under 40 OTD.
I had a 2015 Challenger SXT Plus for 4 years. Put over 100,000 miles on it. Great gas mileage. Torred with black stripes, chrome wheels, I loved it. All it was missing was the V8. Traded it on a 2021 Challenger R/T Scat Pack. Don't miss the SXT! LOL
Thank you for sharing!
It has the door handle there to pay homage to old school cars.
Gonna go buy one!
Good choice brother!
I own a 6.4l hemi v8 wide body TA392 in pitch black and see SXTs and GTs everywhere. And they look just like the v8 narrow body’s. But I can tell which is which since I own one and know what to look for. But most people won’t have a clue. A lot of ppl get the GT for its awd.
I bought a 2019 Challenger GT three years ago. It had 2000 miles on the odometer. Mine is in go
mango orange with the petformance hood. The V-6 engine has enough power for me and gets decent gas milage in city driving. The same car with a 5.7 Hemi would cost atleast $10,000 more. By the way nice car I like red and I noticed the cosmetic additions inside you car. Very nice.
I too looked into getting an RT version of my Charger GT but the added cost of at least $8K + just wasn't worth it to me.I'd love to ave that V8 exhaust sound, but the cost of that wasn't worth it to me. Putting that left-over $10 into all new flooring , paint and couches into my house.
I have a GT with awd. Great commuter, not a racer.
I totally agree with you! Thanks for commenting!
Where did you get those interior customizations? I'm talking about all of those red rings around the buttons and on the doors.
Amazon has tons of Dodge accessories and good prices.
I have this engine in my 2015 Chrysler 300c and my 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit. Never a problem fairly good gas mileage, is quiet, and smooth. My son just bought a new Challenger GT in the same color combination. He just graduated from College in June, got his first full-time job, and bought his dream car. Because of his age, 22 years old, insurance costs were prohibitive with the V-8 Hemi, but he is just as happy with the V-6. I have the 8-speed ZF transmission in both my Chrysler and Jeep without a problem. The bright wheels look so much better than the dirty-looking Black wheels.
Thank you for sharing your story! Really appreciate it! Indeed this engine is great and the car is very decent
I’m sorry I can’t agree. The black forged srt wheels look amazing. Chrome only looks good on old sport and muscle cars
Hi, great video! What's the application you have used to measure 0-60 acceleration and how do you connect it to the car?
Hey, thanks for the comment. The device is called dragy, it's a very accurate device that connects to GPS. It comes with app on your phone, where you can see all the details and keep record of all your measurements.
0-60 and timer is built into the dash
I factory ordered a red Charger RT Hemi AWD and had it for 10 years. It was flawless in that time. If Dodge had offered the Hemi in this Challenger with AWD i would have immediately ordered one! Went to Cadillac afterward.
Thank you for sharing your story!
For your information, the transmission of this car is zf8hp, which is very reliable transmission and it is not made by chrysler group, this transs comes above 2015 models, before that dodge was using 5 speed automatic gearbox.
I got a 2020 gt, it's great on gas, not loud so it doesn't bother my neighbors, it's still quick, looks sporty, very techy, great on insurance. Overall great car, I just wanted something that could get up to speeds quick but doesn't need a lot of power and with today's inflation I found this vehicle for $19k so definitely worth it.
But if you really want speed and one of the 3 muscle car looks but not v8 then mustang ecoboost is faster and has more punch and knockback.
nice choice!
I ain’t know the GT trim had the paddle shifters on back of steering wheel, did u get the GT plus last call version ?
hm, nope, that one is 2021, seems to be regular GT trim
I’ve had two Challenger GTs over the past 3ish years. I can say with utmost confidence that they are MARVELOUS. I have several videos on it on my channel, feel free to check them out. I LOVE my Challenger. V6s are great and fun. 305 hp is still plenty and it’s a blast to drive every day.
Truly feel if these cars came with a tuned exhaust, they would sell even better. As a previous recent owner of a GT, I was impressed w/MPG, but the car was too large/boxy for practical everyday use. Styling was great for price point
I'll be getting this or the Charger with AWD, since I live in the midwest and our weather changes all the time.
Smart choice!
It's a good cruisin car looks good also.
I agree the look is just amazing, I love it!
the transmission on these is the same one as on many BMW and other manufacturers cars. ZF8 they are the best modern 8 speed. but they sometimes are laggy if theres a Chrysler engineer programming it
I was wearing headphones and that intro sounded like my front door getting stomped on 🥷🥷🥷🥷
Hah) thanks for sharing, haven’t experienced that in my case:) but I bet I have different headphones:)
My Charger GT is a fun daily driver.
Super video 🚗👌🇨🇿👍👍👍👍😀👍
Thanks you!
Is Good HP for All people
On 80s and 90s
Cadillac with V8
With less 300hp
This car is Great for this new era
People seem to think that they are super neato when their car is loud (most of them sound like lawn mowers on crack). I have not modified the exhaust on my scat and the only reason I ever would modify the exhaust is to make it quieter. Driving freeway speeds I have to have my stereo volume at no less than 16 to be able to hear my music. Having conversations with the passenger is not using your inside voice. My girl and I feel like we are practically yelling at each other lol. Anyway, whatever floats people's boat.
I think some of these reviews are done with challengers that arent sold yet, which is why the yellow borders are still on the front edges. They're on when the vehicle is in transport.
It's funny when some believe it's part of the actual product.
This car had quite some miles on it, owner thinks it looks cool with yellow stripes)
I left mine on for a year until I hit something in the road late at night and it ripped one of them off. Remove the other the next day. I think they look good depending on the color contrast of the car vs guards.
Where did you get the only Challenger with sound deadening?
Hah:) Friends:)
5.7 is underrated. I stay in htx & with our traffic. Ur not gonna be able to even USE ur 6.4L scat or hellacat power anyways🤷🏼♂️. 5.7 for me personally was the best choice. V8 power good look & really good gas mileage for a V8
Trash
I'm in satx. Picked up a manual 392 a couple months ago and the power really isn't usable at normal speeds. The tires can't handle 1st or 2nd, and struggle in 3rd. It pulls on the highway but I don't need a ticket.
@@nem1 Yeah I used to think all of this usable power talk was nonsense then went from a 5.7 to a 2024 GT 5.0 and now I definitely agree. Those cars have so much power that you never touch I guess that's what made a lot of the little Japanese cars so fun is you could whip them around at full throttle just about anywhere. These cars you have to make sure there is no police no rain on the road etc.
@@shannonpatrick77 Completely agree and that's what kept me out of the Scat Pack. Our roads are JUST long/wide enough for the 5.7 to really open up and roar. In fact, had a guy in a Go Mango Hellcat come up to me in a Walmart lot and say he wished he never traded his 5.7 because "You just can't do anything with more power around here."
@@zippedmouthgaming5637 Yes I traded my 5.7 for a 24 5.0 and it is fun but kind of a waste really heck I can hardly go half throttle lol first world problems good to have I guess
Oh and take those stupid shipping guards off that thing
have to tell the owner:)
You don’t know what you’re talking about. The sxt has 20 inch rims. It also has a spoiler on the rear. It has the same 3.6 pentastar the hood on the sxt was used by the older r/t and scat pac.
The GT may have some different options but in reality why pay 10 grand more for a different hood
Depends on the year and extra stuff, if it has the black top package it gets the 20 inch wheels and leather seats
Ummm guess you never had a v8 . It’s all about the smiles not the miles ! And I love the noise ! I sit and listen to my exhaust note . No radio .
I actually like v8)
As if you have a choice not to listen to it. It's cool and all but on road trips I want music. And for me to have to turn my shit up to like 20 just to hear it is kind of annoying.
@@user-sm1ok3vt9w and this is why we are losing the war with EV’s
I got the 506watt alpine system when I custom ordered mine but I barely listen to it. I love listening to the exhaust when I have the valves open in sport and track mode
Resonator delets are not a good idea. All they really do is cause droning noises at low RPMs when on highways. If you want a better sounding exhaust, that is not the way.
You really don't need a powerful honking V8 to have a fun car. I bought a 3.7 V6 2012 Mustang convertible, and it has served well as a daily driver for 11 years. Insurance is cheaper, I've gotten a steady 27MPG, and let's face it how much are you really going to need over 300 horses to get the job done?
Yep, you got the point. I used to have 2013 Mustang v6 as well, was pretty good experience for me
Doesn't your 3.7L have over 300hp? Thought I remember those Mustangs making like 305hp or something... More than these V6 Challengers if I remember right.
@@chynacash3138 Ford says 310 with 93, have a mild tune so its a little more then that. The best thing I did was put more rear gear in it the 2:73 it came with enabled it to get 30MPG but it was kind of a dog after70MPH. One piece drive shaft and 4:10 gears really woke it up.
@@chynacash3138 you're right, that 3.7 V6 from ford was the first V6 engine ever to output 300+ horse power. That mustang will definitely do better 0-60 then this challenger:)
Хороший обзор, спасибо
The gt.6 is a perfect car for a beginner and I like it would you like to send your teenager out with a hellcat ,LOL by the way nothing like showing the motor from 10 ft away as you talk on your video.LOL
the door handle is there so you can open the door and grab your gat in the same motion
Ahahah))
I just bought a 2015 SXT. The person that owned it before me also removed the rear resonators to give it a more aggresive sound.
I love it. XD
well, if you love it, then it's good man:)
I would say they are
Thanks!
My first dodge was an 05 dodge magnum sxt. Then I sold it for a 05 dodge magnum RT. All my cars since then have been RTs and one 392.
My ex bought a GT after I ler her borrow my 14 charger RT max for a month. She had a ford fusion which broke down and spent an extended time period at an auto shop.
She only had that GT for a year before trading it in for a scat. My point is that once a person experiences a V8 hemi, they no longer want an sxt or GT.
Thank you for sharing!
Loud pipes big rims this is America bucko 😂
May b not a true muscle car but there r trim levels for a reason. Not everyone can afford high trim levels but they may want a muscle car look. Personally for the price & hp values i choose the Scat . The main point is that it doesnt affect ur financial situation.✌️
true, great look, ok performance. might be just enough for some people.
Then you have people like me who can afford a v8 but just don't care about the Stoplight Grand Prix. Bought the v6 awd.
@@terryanthony5323 good choice!
It's not a muscle car to me may be a sports car with a V6 if it had a turbo or a super charger on it then I could consider it more of a sport car and if the numbers in performance was high enough then it could be considered a muscle car
A GT with no 5.0L? WTH
*No. Needs to be an RT and above to be an actual muscle car*
Thanks for sharing, man!
What I hate most is that when 3 US muscle cars started bringing back to our life, they all appeared in this fat ugly form. No doubt Challenger is looking good in front view and better than other 2 overall, but I can't stand that he is fat in his side look is horribly fat and heavy. They even didn't try to hide these forms with body paint. Well Challenger is going to go away as people say, again. And it seems that late 60s model still is the best-looking Dodge Challenger we have.
And better insurance lol
True!
It's the shape of a Muscle car but it's just a very comfortable regular car. The 5.7L is also IMO the same. Little more power, not a muscle car.
6.4L & Hellcat + is muscle
Yeah, srt hellcat and demon are beasts, but pricing…
5.7 is a muscle car 4.8 sec 0-60 is quick and a muscle car...A Muscle car has a performance version V8 engine and the 5.7 is a performance version..
No V6,6 cyl or 4 cyl are muscle cars...Even a Hellcat Charger is NOT a muscle car because it is a 4 door..Only midsize 2 doors with a performance V8 are muscle cars!
Example a 1970 Dodge Challenger with a 318 V8 or 383 2 barrel V8 are not muscle cars...Even though the lower compression than the 4bbl 383 2barrel moves the exact same as a 3.6 new Challenger! The muscle version was the high performance 383 Magnum,440 Magnum and 426 Hemi...They ran low 12's to low 13's in the 1/4 mile Get the 426 tuned right they ran high 11's,remember old tests cars had zero traction...185/75/14 inch tires bias ply at that and zero drag strips,if they used a drag strip they were like a parking lot in terms of prep as no chemicals for traction...Even slicks back then had no traction,they were 8 inch wide so a modern minivans 225 radial tire actually has more traction than old slicks of the day!
@@mypronouniswtf5559 yep, v8 and 2doors. That’s my understanding of muscle car too. Same frame on V6, so people would still can it muscle car:)
@@mypronouniswtf5559- Doors have nothing to do with the muscle car equation - a Charger and Challenger are both L-Cars, identical platform with ONLY wheelbase length distinguishing them apart. Muscle cars were mid sized, and full sized from the inception of the genre. Yes a Pony car is distinguished by having a 2+2 seating arrangement and two doors, but a trunk OR hatchback is permissible. Muscle Cars have no such rigid requirement for entry into the class. A car company taking its largest sedan, placing its largest V8 engine under the hood, backed by either a quick shifting automatic or manual transmission, short rear end gearing, along with its largest brake setup, and stiffest suspension would qualify it as a muscle car by any definition- doors be damned. The Charger is as much a muscle car as it’s two door mechanical twin- but let’s be honest- four door cars sell much better than coupes since the 90s. The Challenger only exists because the Magnum, Charger, and 300 made it possible(the Challenger replaced the Magnum in the lineup after all).
Ngl. 5.7 is underrated. Has PLENTY of power for way cheaper than a scat or hellat. Also has the best gas mileage than scat or hellacat while still having V8
Fine cars, moronic that dodge gives them hoodscoops
Ain’t no way u hate the mufflers cut off on the car 😂😂😂 I understand a 3.6 engine(v6) sounds very good but it’s better with a little bit of noise for that extra power sound.
Yep, definitely that noise adds up extra 100 horse power:)😆
The answer is no. But neither the Camaro Mustang nor Challenger were born as muscle cars, they were pony cars at first with V6's.
No, it’s a touring car. If you want a muscle car, get the 6.4 L.
They are cool. But, uhm, the Crossfire makes waste of them.
Thanks! Hm, need to grab a crossfire for review:)
I have a manual and automatic N\A and an SRT. If you are in So Cal we should meet up.
@@Xfire1347 Thanks man! Living in Florida but will keep you in mind for my next visit to Cali! Love the place!
@@carsinfinityreviews Right on. It would be great to meet and evaluate the cars.
Funny how a V6 Challenger isnt considered a muscle car. But yet the classic muscle cars of the 60s and early 70s had 6 cylinder engines themselves. You could get a base Camaro or Mustang or Challenger or about any other car with a 6 cylinder. Even the Charger could be had with a 6 cylinder. Chevelle could be had with a 6 cylinder. But yet they're all still considered muscle cars.
You are dreaming, no way what you said is true
The Grand National is the only V6 muscle car I can think of. A V6 challenger or mustang wasn't considered a muscle car in the 60s
@@nem1 Correct they were considered "pony" if they had a 6cylinder. Though there was indeed 68/69 chargers made with the slant 6 straight from factory, only 900+ were built
@@Digital2pulse the pony cars were the smaller models. Mustang, camaro, challenger, firebird etc.. The muscle cars were the Torino, Chevelle, Charger, GTO... If a grown man can't fit comfortably in the back seat, it wasn't a muscle car.
I think the confusion comes from the term "American muscle" which just refers to a big V8. Everyone started to consider vettes and pony cars to be muscle since they came with the big motors. They were still sports and pony cars tho
And those v8’s had less hp too
Getting a Challenger with a V6 is like going to the strip club and not getting a lap dance.
You made my day man! Love the comparison:)
And then you realize you just spent money to get teased, and you'll never have the opportunity to take advantage of all she can offer.
What u talking about I have a gt don't sound like that
Not sure you watched the part where I explain why it sounds like that
V6 resonator delete = sounds like a boat lol
@@lakai.2g that's ur ride right
@@deecas4858 No, I upgraded to a Scat last year. Sounds like a beast!
@@lakai.2g ur rear sounds like that
No a v6 is not a muscle car
Your mom
V6 baby 👶 engine
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You're misusing words!, Muscle car means gotta have a V8 period!, How a V6 car, can be even considered a muscle car, is beyond ridiculous!!!
As you can see in these comments, some people like the car even without V8 engine:) The car looks like muscle car and people are fine with that. So I'd say it's muscle car by appearance not by tech part:)
No of course it isn’t. What a stupid question
Thanks for your input:)
It's a base model, yuck.
Yep)
Only V8 powered cars are Muscle cars..Even the new Charger V8 isnt a muscle car because its a 4 door...
No V8, it's not a muscle car
Thanks:)
Hell no! It starts with the R/T. Muscle cars represent V8 muscle, not a v6 😂 for this price I’d get a less expensive but nicer 2013 Infiniti g37 and destroy this wanna be muscle car 😂
That car isn’t even close to a muscle car
Thanks! You’re the first one to say that in comments!
Agreed. I had a 2015 SXT Plus. LOOKED like a muscle car. I have a Scat now, it has the muscle.
i would totally buy one. just slap a hemi sticker on it lol. vvt v6 aint that bad. they got most of the problem's worked out now adays
Haha, I like the sticker swap idea))
All Challengers, Mustangs, & Camaros are considered "pony" cars, not "muscle" cars. A mid size 1970 Charger R/T with a 440 is an example of a muscle car.
@@johnmcmullen456 thank you for a thorough reply!