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I’m triggered with Ultraviolence. That’s her magnum opus alongside Norman of course.
saaame 😅
It really isn’t
agreed
I would say Norman, Ultraviolence, and Born to Die in that order
ocean blvd, norman, then ultraviolence
None of Lana’s albums aged badly. There’s a reason she is peaking 16 years into her career.
correct fans obsessed it naturally no need heavy promo or pr move
Isn't she one of the most streamed artists in the world right now too? Like beating out some popular rappers among the men's/boy's crowd. Clearly the albums are still speaking.
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Exactly! and Taylor Swift too! she's literally still topping charts despite already in the industry for over 17 years.
You're right, only her attitudes and her kareness. Not only aged, but remained.
I have to disagree with the album Ultraviolence and despite the fact that I do enjoy her newer work, I just favour the production with this album so much more with the grunge influence and drums used I think it just pairs so much better with her vocals. Some of her newer work whilst I enjoy it I do find it harder to listen to because of the lyricism and how it comes off as too wordy and descriptive rather than metaphorical which can make the tracks feel slower and less replayable.
Totally agree. The newer albums are wonderful too but the lyrics don’t hit the same. Plus sometimes I can’t understand what she’s saying because she whispers/mumbles.
100%
@@janepar715ad the lyrics and listen to what she’s singing carefully. She surely isn’t mumbling in any of her newer songs 🤷♂️ because they’re simply better lyrically than her pre NFR eras
Born to Die is her best album. Don't even @ me.
@@xchi8040Yeah but they all sound the same and aren’t that great. Ocean blv os not great. Candy necklace is gorgeous but too many forgettable songs. Also “hands on my knees Angelina Jolie” 😭 come on now
Thumbnail has me triggered 💀
Why?
@@saranexie7809I’m just a Lana and Taylor stan so I love all their albums, but Honest always has thoughtful explanations and I respect his opinion 😅 I just love those albums personally they never get old
Lmfaooo
Fully
SAMEEE💀
Your opinion on Rare is how I feel about Selena’s entire career. She’s a safe artist. Not the first or the second or even the third person I’d think to ever play but if I hit shuffle on a playlist and her song comes on .. I may not switch it but I’ll also make myself do something else so it turns into background noise
I agree completely , definitely a safe artist, this isn't the right way to put this but is the only was I can describe her in my mind, she's just kinda famous for being famous, her vocal ability is just not great in my opinion, I've never seen her sing good live and she lip syncs a lot. Despite all that I do think she was a talented song writer not so much anymore
@@paristiger she acts and has a successful company. There’s also people that actually listen to her music. How is that famous for being famous, if people are interested in her from at least one field of her career? Maybe figure out how to criticize without dismissing like 20 years of working
@@paristigerAs a big Selena fan, I have to say that you're both right. She doesn't have a strong voice, but listen to her cover of Cry me a river, it's good. She should stick with that kind of music. However, saying that she's famous just for being famous is a little bit underappreciated. She has been on Disney Channel since she was a child. A lot of us loved her in Wizards of Waverly Place, that's why she has a big fandom;)
Her most Memorable album for me is stars dance but other than that the others are ok but Not masterpieces in my opinion
ultraviolence is literally lana’s greatest album (imo). from its production to lyrics to the aesthetic. the subject is uncomfortable but it’s also very real and hits home for a lot of ppl which makes it even more impactful.
The lyrics are horrible pls
@@hmgenicbeautiful you mean
@@mantolinez "I'm a sad girl, I'm a bad girl, I'm a bad girl"
@@hmgenic what about the great lyrics in million dollar man or literally any other song
@@Angeliccz that's from born to die
I’ve been listening to Lana since her first album and I gotta say it, Ultraviolence was her best. The rock/grunge style fit her sooo good but she gradually got soft throughout the years and with her last three albums I found them hard to listen to since its mostly folklore/religious music. Very different from what made her appealing but all her albums sound different and she’s constantly changing her tone so I respect it and still support her.
This! I think NFR marked the biggest pivot in her career, and since then it's been on this trajectory that I just don't enjoy as much.
@@diegodeleon5787it was an amazing album but afterwards got boring. I do like some chemtrails songs and blue banisters but ocean is trash im sorry 😭 candy necklace a&w the grants thats all i care for
ABSOLUTELY THIS! her older music was so different and had a touch of comedy and felt so smart in a way. the albums since nfr have been a snore (i know, such a massively unpopular opinion). that's why i was so happy with Ocean Bvd because it had some call backs to her older trip-hop/hip hop styles... hopefully, she comes back to explore this sound. i hope she does. i mean, she has explored the sad, slow monotonous ballad through a span of 4 albums. surely, she can take a break and explore alt-pop/trip hop again/or 60s style pop.
@@diegodeleon5787 honestly. Most fans hail NFR as this masterpiece or the greatest thing. it seemed more like a tragic plot twist to me because after it released, i realised she was going to stay in this dreary acoustic, antonoff-produced sound for the next many years. because it got so popular. my heart got heavy lmaoo
SO REAL
Ultraviolence is the complete opposite of ageing badly. It has become one of the most beloved Lana albums, you ask a long term Lana fan what their fav album is and I bet you’ll hear ultraviolence a lotttt.
reputation aged very well i have to disagree. although the album isn’t most swifties favorite, it got a liking to it by the general public & people who are not casual taylor swift fans. the production & themes are amazing. the album is currently still charting in the top 25 on the Billboard 200 and and has continuously charted for 251 consecutive weeks. people still love it!
I would argue it aged better than it was perceived when it first released. I remember people HATING it when it first came out and now people are starting to acknowledge that it is good.
reputation is a VERY fan favorite album, idk if it wasn't when it released but in the last years it became most swifties favorite era and album.
It is my favorite that’s for damn sure haha. I know that a lot of swifties feel that reputation is a “you had to be there” album, but it certainly aged good
It has a cult following , i am one of the cult managers
It's aged beautifully over the years. I still find myself listening to deeper cuts like Call It What You Want and Dancing With Our Hands Tied while just shuffling through my playlists and I always save LWYMMD and Don't Blame Me during my workouts.
harry styles' debut was SO GOOD compared to the generic radio songs he's making now... sign of the times truly showed off his full potential, his beautiful voice and all the songs on that album felt personal and relatable, contrary to the lyrics we hear on harry's house (like a bunch of random words and lyrics like "sideboob, choke her with a sea view")...
it's my favorite album of his for sure, even though some of the songs are a little simple in comparison to fine line
I totally agree. Like his debut was so authentically harry. Other than little freak, his last album was pretty mediocre
He is very milquetoast like many popstars tend to be.
I agree with this 100%. I really don’t understand why his debut gets so much hate 🥲
i couldn't agree more
@Darkvelvet377I completely agree. He’s a fun artist but I don’t think he’s on the level of the Weeknd, Taylor, etc. his music is nice but it doesn’t stop you in your tracks or feel like anything new is being brought to the table. His charisma as a person has really carried his music imo
how about a video about albums that did age well now? 🤗
it’s up next 😌
@@honestboywhoohoo! Can't wait to see it😁
@@honestboyi bet lover is on it
@@gryffindorboy5956the retrospective acclaim on that album is actually pretty nuts
CRJ: Emotions better be on it
I actually found that Chromatica and Positions grew on me as time went on (after I had almost full on disliked them on my first listen). However, I do understand the criticisms towards them. Sadly, I do agree about Rare. It's been easy for me to forget about over the years.
Chromatica suffered because the songs barely touched the 3 min mark. It could've been livelier if she cooked it a bit longer. I was a huge Selena fan and wanted to like Rare but it's just not it. I tried to like the album but it just pales in comparison to Revival. I wish she would've gone to a more experimental route like her droplet singles era (Bad Liar + Fetsh are still her best works).
@@Greybellher Spanish music is better than her english music for me
@@GreybellYou can't make everyone happy...
@@Greybellher music was always horrible.
Agree with Chromatica, although Chromatica was one of those albums I fell in love right at first listening to me... It just grew even more on me, and it's top 3 to me right with TFM and BTW (and ARTPOP is really close to top 3)
Replay is one of my favorite songs Gaga has ever released (unfortunately I relate so much to the lyrics, and I think the production is genius when you connect to the lyrics, representing a fast thinking pattern during a PTSD episode) so sad it wasn't a single... Also love Babylon, 911, Free Woman and Enigma 💖
Honestly I don’t think Harry is going to create anything better than Fine Line. I love all his work but Fine Line is his magnum opus.
Agreed! Fine line will always be his best album to me😭
No literally quality wise his first two albums are amazing and fine line is peak Harry but now with Harry’s house I think he’s just having fun now experimenting with sound but nothign will come close to fine line
I fear he will get the 4th album curse. He had a solid album as a debut, a good sophomore with a lot of hits, and a great album as a whole but meh-hit singles. Thats his peak.
I was surprised when he praised Harry’s house too over his debut bc like ??? The songwriting quality went down the drain compared to his first two. But debit did have a lot of empty wannabe rockstar songs (Caroline cough) so i get that u can’t say it’s as good as FL.
Personally Ariana’s positions is my favorite grande album, but I see your point. It’s no where near as iconic or popular as thank u next. and the personality in thank u next and sweetener keep it alive to this day but I wouldn’t say positions aged poorly
Agreed
Same I love each song in the album
I really love each song on Positions and I’d argue thank u, next aged more for me (though it still has Ariana’s best songwriting/lyricism)
Agree
omg yes.
I have to disagree with Reputation, it's litteraly one of my favourite albums from Taylor, it has great replay value and production is also very nice, plus a lot of people didn't understand main concept of the album, it's not all about revenge and her dealing with bad reputation, it's about being in a relationship with the public and media constantly trying to get into her personal space, basically trying to navigate with her partner under that storm
It’s not because it’s your favorite album that it didn’t age badly. Opinion ≠ Fact
I loved Harry's debut, that soft-rock anthemic vibe suits him so perfectly. Harry's House sadly didn't do it for me, not the direction I was expecting.
Same!
Same! It’s grown on me overtime, while Harry used to be my favorite when it came out. However, fine line and debut are above it, and Harry’s house is barely played.
Same! I agree with you. Harry Styles is such an underrated album, I know that it doesn’t fit into the trending pop music that majority of the people like these days but it’s such a gem and yeah Harry’s House didn’t do it for me either
HIS DEBUT IS AMAZING!!!!! I love meet me in the hallway, sweet creature, from the dining table, and like everything on it
Thank you. I felt like I was the only one. I'll give Harry's house a chance again because during my first listen, i really wasn't a fan. It was a complete 180 from Fine line.
Ultraviolence may have lost its replay value for you, but it's hardly an album that didn't age well. It's still an album that's one of the best for what it is, no matter how much maturity and growth the artist herself personally goes through away from that album.
It's not an album where when you go back to, you cringe at; it's an album that when you look back at, you realize you just can't relate to anymore.
But West Coast 😢
Reputation tbh, besides 1989, is my favorite taylor swift album. It's hard articulating why, since I'm not a huge fan of her work before or after. Just the obvious singles. But those 2 albums are EXTREMELY replayable for me
same, i always find myself going back go to it, even with newer releases that might have more variety sonically or whatever
I really like rep and 1989, and even Midnights... The only album I'm not a huge fan (besides some songs) is Lover 🥲
Like, I can sit and listen to the entire 1989 (can't wait for 1989 TV), rep and Midnights easily, I'm simply not able to do the same thing with Lover...
Like I said, there are some songs I love (Cruel Summer, Lover, The Archer, MA&THP, Cornelia Street, DBATC, False God, Afterglow, Daylight), but the rest is so... Meh
I say this a lot, but I believe Lover would've been a lot better if it was a shorter album, like 13 tracks... 18 was too much and made the album quite exhausting to listen...
And I would've loved to see AOTGYLB in Lover tracklist
And about rep by itself: I used to not be a huge fan of the album, but it was a grower for me and now it's one of my favorites...
I can't wait to see that updated take she did with her re-recordings on rep TV
And I'm sure rep will be the next re-recording after 1989 TV, praying she'll decide to announce it here in one of Brazil's Eras Tour dates in the end of November... Especially in the date I'm going lmao, but already so happy bc we have huge chances of getting 1989 TV vault songs as surprise songs 🥺💖
Idk it’s weird because there’s a lot of misses on rep for me but some of my favorite songs from her are on there too. For example, LWYMMD and Endgame are one of my least favorites of her entire discography but I love Delicate, Dress, Don’t Blame me and Gorgeous. I think my top 3 are Lover,Rep and 1989. She’s not really an album artist tho imo, she’s more of a hit maker although her albums aren’t bad either.
100% agree. Lover would've been awesome, i just feel like the songs 'ME!' and 'you need to calm down'. i get these songs were necessary to kinda lift the mood after Reputation and the Kanye fiasco somewhat behind.@@palomathereptilian
Reputation was my first era of Taylor that I experienced and I liked it was more my style / aesthetic and reminded me of Rihana’s good girl gone bad era and I’m not rlly a Taylor fan but rep and midnights are my favorites from her
Mine too! They’re my 2 faves by her. Her other releases are kinda country latte frapuccino girl in the city kinda things but there’s a bit more production and light&shade on Rep & Mid.
Do you like folklore and evermore? Those are my fave of hers :)
@@mercyydaddyy6173 yes my favourite album is Evermore 💃
But Rihanna was authentically edgy and showed that on GGGB and the albums that followed. Taylor was just trying too hard to step out of her good girl image and then went right back to the same image after. It wasn't organic.
@@starbeam6651 that's so Red Taylor's Version that you just described 🤣
i think that Manic was the big project that shows how much Halsey grew as an artist. she’s shown how her edgy, tumblr personality is gone and there was this raw emotion poured into every single lyric. maybe i’m biased as a Halsey fan and someone who also has bipolar disorder, but i love manic from the bottom of my heart. cried the most tears when i first heard it tbh
but i also think If I can’t have love, I want power is Halsey’s most serious, rawest and most intimate album she ever made and topped all of her past projects. IICHLIWP is a masterpiece and i won’t let anyone tell me anything different
totally agree
Right on both accounts! I nearly stopped listening to halsey completely in 2020 but gave manic a listen on a whim and it’s the entire reason I still love their stuff
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I like "Ultraviolence" JUST
because of its pure melancholic
sounds. My favorite song
from it is "Old Money". 😭
Mine too😭
Same
imagine calling “reputation” and “ultraviolence” “beauty behind the madness” THE ALBUMS that didn’t age well. it doesn’t have to be all practical and perfect to make it make sense. All you did was talk bs. They are still very memorable and everyone does keep coming back to it. Yes even halsey’s “manic” sheesh.
Halsey’s manic was also good, these are all literally the albums I still listen to on repeat 😭
30 by adele aged like milk too
I think it lacks songs with good replayability. It feels like a very bland album, which is weird because it was a really important moment of her life
Agreed, although I love it
@@mariapaz6379 True. Those 5 minute, 6 minute songs don't have replay value.
30 is an album she needed to make, but the subject matter is inherently less relatable.
Everyone can relate to having their heart broken, not everyone is a single mother that just divorced her husband and is wrangling with the effects this will have on their children.
Ultraviolence is one of the greatest albums of the last 10 years period.
Somebody doesn’t listen to enough music 💀
I can name 20 better albums rn lol
Put on headphones and listen to something more pls
I was waiting for 'Rare' ! I feel that the album isn't bad per say, it's just that we may have built a huge amount of expectations after a refreshing 'Lose you to Love me'. Throughout listening it, i kept waiting for another song that was as vulnerable and raw as that song. Had to go back to listen to Camouflage to erase Souvenir off my head.
Camouflage needs more recognition (also that entire album cause it aged pretty well, especially all of the deluxe songs)
I think my favourite song from rare has to be People you know ❤
I like Sweeter Place, but mostly because of the kid cudi feature haha. Rare isn’t a bad song either - but the rest of the album was just fine for me
Tbh, I actually really enjoy Rare. I think that while the title may be misleading, there's a great collection of not amazing but perfectly solid tracks like Dance Again, Cut You Off, Vulnerable, Lose You to Love Me, and especially A Sweeter Place. For me, Revival is her album that didn't age well. It feels *very* 2015 and while there aren't many awful songs on the album, the tracks feel like they could've been recorded by literally anybody at the time and come out exactly the same. Not much personality in them compared to Rare, which at least gets a bit more meat on the songs for Selena to work with
When Rare first came out, the album rubbed me the wrong way bc of how it was layed out the first time, the tracklist kinda clashed and it felt rushed and like if Selena didn’t make it a priority. When she did the Deluxe and re-arranged the tracklist, i felt like it did what it needed to do to give that album another lease of life and I liked that the deluxe tracks added to what was needed.
Saw my queen Lana and had to click. UV will forever be awesome. I can't ever grow out of it.
Frrr🤣🤣🤣
Saw my queen Taylor and I had to click
Ultraviolence in the thumbnail had me shook?
I have to disagree with Chromatica, Manic, and Ultraviolence. I think the issue with Chromatica is that it didn’t get the right promotion. Had we had more live performances and more promotion maybe even more music videos I think the GP would absolutely love the album and it’s themes. Manic in my opinion isn’t a true pop album, it’s and Indy pop album however I do agree with what you said about it Honest. That’s the reason I like it though, she sounded great mixing all of those genres together. Ultraviolence is a timeless album there are no skips on it honestly, while I do prefer blue banister and Ocean Blvd for the maturity and artistic progression Ultraviolence projection is just timeless and she sounds great in it.
“This album is called rare but there’s not many things rare abt it “ 😫😂
Did he lie? No
reputation??? I feel like it aged well, and lover aged worse. with his tone-deaf "you need to calm down" + maybe we're in a timeline that's too dark to really enjoy lover now.
Everything you said about Selena and Drake was accurate. She should stick to TV and IG, and he just needs to stop period.
FACTS UPON FACTS!
I disagree with ultraviolence and positions. ultraviolence has aged amazingly for me especially the first half of the album it’s a timeless classic that i think will always be one of her most iconic and solidifys her as an artist. and position’s definitely isn’t arianas best album by far but i think it’s still good, i actually like it as i listen to it more. i wasn’t a big fan of it on release but i love listening to it it’s just a cute and calm album that’s not that serious. coming after thank u next her magnum opus which was very personal and vulnerable the bar was really high so i see why lots of people were disappointed by it, but positions is the end of the triology and shows ariana in a better place and healing from her past trauma which i think is so sweet, it’s definitely a comfort album for me songs like off the table, just like magic, safety net and pov are so wholesome even if the production is similar and repetitive throughout the album i kinda like it it’s a simple and cute vibe. in my opinion arianas worst aging album is definitely my everything it was only made for commercial success and nothing else, it has incredible singles but the track list is so messy and uncohesive the only world to describe it is chaotic, and i hate problem with a burning passion 😭
To paraphrase what Jon from ARTV said about Taylor and Reputation: “she should be setting trends, not following them.” I understand why people like Reputation to an extent, and it’s absolutely the best example of the trend Taylor had in her pop records of the time with her deep cuts being way better than most of the singles, I’m very curious if/how that will change with the re-recording. Red, which I liked, but didn’t love initially, definitely improved for me with Taylor’s version and seeing the full picture, and Speak Now, one of her best albums imo, is also elevated in rerelease.
Reputation won't be re-recorded because she owns the masters to her albums post-1989.
@@BroJo676 no, she doesn’t. Lover is the first album she recorded with her new label, Republic Records, and she owns everything from that point on. Reputation is her last with her old label, Big Machine, and therefore included in the music she needs to re-record to reclaim. Not sure where you get your info from 🤷🏻♀️
@@harshyadav9896 and I can see why you think that (apart from The Weeknd comparison…my only points of reference for him are his previous relationships with Bella Hadid and Selena Gomez and the current discourse around The Idol). I’ve had my mind changed before about her albums, as noted by my comments about Red TV, and Lover has grown on me, even if it’s mostly nostalgia and realizing how truly happy she was then. I’m curious how she’ll approach things sonically…the singles like LWYMMD will likely still be grating for me, but I respect her balance of approaching her old work with a balance of trying to preserve the integrity of the original while making it work in a present-day context, and have faith she’ll do the same there. At the end of the day, like all of her discography, I think what hits and misses will be subjective.
@@cakt1991 You're right, I was wrong.
@fsong1993 tell that to Jon from ARTV, he said it. But it’s weird that you can cite influences for everything else, but claim Reputation is original…it’s literally the one that felt most inauthentic to me, especially the singles (Delicate excepted, I love that song), and like she was just playing to the market or playing a character she was ready to slip off like a glove, and not taking something and doing it *her* way. That’s the key difference to me. I think the way she did things in other eras suited her quirky personality, like “Shake it Off” being about how she doesn’t fit in with other people…only to pivot an era later and pretend to *be* like some of the people she was trying to parody. And she strikes me as an old soul romantic, so a lot of those nostalgic eras suit her, whereas this hyper modern one didn’t. But that’s just my perspective on things.
I absolutely LOVED REPUTATION. I don’t really think any of these are “cringe” or “ripoffs”. And to me it’s definitely not that cringe. I don’t think most people found it cringe at all. And it earned its place as one of the iconic TS albums. And not just for popularity, it was genius.
rep on this list is A SHAME. best pop album to blast at the gym.
Ultraviolence has a consistency of the same theme but in different ways which is why for me it’s her best album. The entire album feels and sounds like an entire movie. For production & lyrics to the story telling and haunting vocals, it’s an album that I will forever appreciate. I think it aged extremely well since it’s her one of her albums that hit #1 and almost all tracks are going to hit 100mill streams. Hearing songs like West Coast, Brooklyn Baby, and Black Beauty feels like I’m l revisting the album for the very first time every single time.
Personally, I loved Harry's debut! To me it was very authentic. It showed how as an artist he's been influenced by classic 60s/70s rock, but that he wanted to and was able to put his own spin on it. With the mix of rock and acoustic songs, his debut takes the listener from feeling grief to being chilled out to wanting to head bang. None of his new music is as haunting as Sign of the Times, From the Dining Table, or Ever Since New York, nor do they have the driving, energizing beats and rhythms of Kiwi or Carolina. I liked Fine Line too because you could hear the Harry Nilsson inspiration in its experimental moments. Songs like Lights Up, Cherry, She, Canyon Moon, etc. showcased his versatility and tell a story. His first two albums had the ability to speak to your soul.
I found Harry's House to be the most boring. I know there are good songs in there like Matilda and Cinema, but overall I've been disappointed with his musical progression. He's moved away from his cooler, grittier, versatile sound, back towards generic pop music that is more digestible for a wider audience. I still love his music and him as an artist, his music just doesn't have the rawness it originally did that made me really respect him and that caught my attention when he was first trying differentiate himself from One Direction. I would say if anything, Harry's debut was a very solid start and there was something there I hope he revisits in the future!
This is so well said! I agree so much with most of the things u said. The first 2 albums just felt so special & real. No shade to Harry’s House of course😭, but it really just doesn’t hit the same as the other 2 albums. I thought I was the only one who felt this way😭-
I couldn’t agree more.
I have to agree with you on Rare. I don’t know why but I was obsessed when it came out, but now I just don’t have the patience to listen to it. It just feels like there’s a whole lot of nothing on that album
I agree she should release seven heavens her dark album
Ultraviolence aged pretty well… I converted some of my friends into LDR fans with it
I loved reputation
I’m just beginning to fully like Taylor and I’ve started to love Rep! Some great songs on the album
Reputation and Manic are my favourite albums from Taylor and Halsey. It changes with Taylor but i always find myself coming back to Reputation the most. I just love those albums.
Madison Beer’s Life Support album is my absolute favorite! I put it on repeat for a whole year, the songs are really touching, the lyrics are so poetic and meaningful and her voice is really beautiful. It’s really underrated! she deserves more
I do like that Taylor experimented and took risks with Reputation even though it didn’t age as well as the others
I love Ultraviolence I feel like it is genuinely no skips. It tells a story. I do agree it doesn’t really mesh with the TikTok audience that Lana has tuned into now.
You think Lana’s new music is catered to TikTok success? I’ve never heard that before.
@@troystilltalking8278 No not that. I meant TikTok has made viral a lot of her songs and most aren't from Ultraviolence except west coast
@@user-fe8uq9zp2g well blame tiktok shes not intentionally trying to veer it towards tiktok but contradictingly sounds very much different from tiktok songs that are viral nowadays
nearly every EDM and Dance pop album made in 2010 and 2011, beats that sounded hard when I was in high school sounds like electronic queefs at 30s.
lmfaoooo THIS
As a Gaga stan:
Best Aged: ARTPOP
Worst Aged: Joanne
Thinking about it, Joanne was an uncohesive mess. Going from songs about your aunt to songs about m*st*rb*t**n. I have many questions.
You could say it makes it memorable, but Chromatica feels more memorable, cohesive and really tells a story about mental health, vulnerability and bravery
Not too much on Joanne, that's THE album for me. Let's have the Born This Way conversation instead
ARTPOP has aged like milk for me 😅
I would say Born This Way aged poorly but I never liked it since my first listen a few years ago 😅I know little monsters love that album though and it's considered one of her best.
Joanne sounds like someone that's never set foot outside of LA trying to appeal to Middle America.
It's not a coincidence that it dropped in the lead up to her Super Bowl performance.
ARTPOP and Born This Way are timeless to me. I love The Fame and The Fame Monster, but they sound like 2008/2009 to me, where I feel the sound on her 2 subsequent albums will stand the test of time.
I appreciate her effort to be different on Joanne but it just ain’t it for me. Chromatica is definitely the most cohesive of her albums, but I’ll admit I find it a bit boring. I’m hoping she’s not entirely done with pop and will come back with another, riskier album on par with her first 4.
I also agree with "Reputation". While it may not be my favorite (I don't listen to it in full as others) there are some great songs in there, aside from being an important album arc in her career.
As someone who loved Ariana’s previous work, you’re absolutely spot on about Positions! I felt deflated the longer I listened. Her Dangerous Woman era had so much power that I fear we will never get again. Also completely agree with Selena’s ‘Rare’ and anything Drake related. Love to hear these takes, I would love to see another video like this in the future.
As a Harry Styles fan, I have to agree on your take. HS1 seems to exist on a different realm than Fine Line and Harry's House, both sonically and lyrically. Like, I remember being so shocked when I first heard Lights Up (lead single from Fine Line) because it sounded nothing like what he had put out before, but going back to it after a few years I feel like it's HS1 who's the odd one out. I think that it's not a coincidence Harry stopped playing al songs from HS1 on tour but Sign Of The Times and Kiwi, which are fan favourites. The rest of HS1 would not fit into his actual sound.
Yeah I feel like this album lead him to who he is today like it was a stepping stone.
It really does seem to exist on it’s own. I still think hs1 is amazing tho
Ultraviolence by lana also kinda fell off for me, even though I’m still in love with it in way. I think it’s because lana has progressed as an artist SO much since UV that her newer stuff just vibes better as her audience grew up with her.
I noticed that newer lana fans tend to love her older work while the veteran stans tend to love NFR and all the albums after.
I don't know I've been a fan since BTD days and UV is still my fave and at least on the ldr subreddit most peoples faves are either UV or NFR I don't think it has anything to do with being a new or long time fan.
I agree but I think it’s the veterans who prefer her older albums because they have a nostalgic connection to them and new stans like her newer work from nfr and after (I started being a fan after nfr and prefer her newer albums)
I wonder if he liked chemtrails and BB cos I feel like they, especially chemtrails, have a similar onenoteness aspect to them. I thought it was one of the big differences between those albums and ocean boulevard. The latter felt wider ranging like a larger sonic universe. That’s probably a contributing factor to what different fans like. Ik some people who prefer albums like UV, chemtrails cos they’re more consistent and constrained and others who prefer a born to die, ocean Boulevard for the opposite reasons.
@@warrenmacdonald3463I have the impression that most of the new Lana Fans get into Born To Die at first which is her most famous album while the older fans are the ones listening to Chemtrails her least played album
I think UV is a more darker and sadder version of BTD. And BTD is kinda super dramatic, super 40/50’s inspired and kinda pop (for Lana terms) but gosh I love all the songs on both albums. Ultraviolence is such a classic! Sad Girl, Black Beauty, Old Money, Pretty when you cry & Florida kilos for example! It really didn’t age bad for me
Life support to me is a great debut album, every song has meant something in her life and the album is so cohesive
Not the disclaimer for the incoming crazies 😮💨
I forgot Rare even existed. And her voice is very weak. That album is very forgettable.
i feel like 2.0. Y.O. and Discipline by Janet aged like milk but besides her first two albums, Her other seven albums sounded very of its time AND STILL VERY TIMELESS.
What?! "Discipline" was solid.
I’m glad you mentioned reputation. I think with the swifties they will defend that album to death…but once you walk outside that fandom most people would agree that Taylor is more petty on that record. Her love songs feel like Taylor at times, but then I hear Gorgeous and I know she’s better than that…rhyming face with face on a dull, chorus melody takes me out of that feeling she tried to capture.
"I can't say anything to your face, cause look at your face" is a horrible line
girl yes that song is bad
@@Localrockstarwannabe lemme correct you, I think YOU would play it over other albums…let’s not rope most others into this…
I really like gorgeous, it’s a cute song about having a crush on someone. I like that not every song she writes is like those on folklore. Sometimes you just want to have a fun pop song to listen to. In my opinion 😄 Not everything has to be super serious all the time!
@@henrywayne5724not all songs suppose to be well written sometimes we need to have a bop and fun onee
taylor's eras depend on whatever is the most popular sound at the moment and remains generic and with no growth tbh it's always the same with different generic beats and style
Positions is placed in my top three, just after Dangerous woman and Thank u next, but my least favourite Ariana album would have to be ‘My everything’. a lot of the tracks are forgettable apart from
A select few, and the rest that could just be Yours Truly deluxe. Compared to Positions as an era, positions just is and felt more cohesive in its theme and knew what it wanted to be.
I'm surprised that Ariana Grande Positions Album is on here as well as Taylor Swift Reputation Album. I think both of those albums aged well. Especially Positions by Ariana Grande.
Firsthand being young and being a huge fan of Ultraviolence. I was in a physically abusive relationship and stayed another year cause the album made me switch my mindset from it being wrong, to something I should love. I hate to say I was so easily molded but I was.
i guess u were young and didnt understand that ultraviolence was actually not supporting abuse, but instead showcasing how lana's abuse is so bad, she can only romanticise it to cope with it, and how abuse can change your mind
@@piercechoon it’s not the support but I figured her story could be mine too. Why else? Things line up. I was young and dumb and looked for answers in a album where I’m sure that wasn’t her intention
@@iaintookthatbb6599 oh i get it now, i hope you are doing better now then
as much as i love ultraviolence, i totally get how it was toxic in many listeners' lives. the album has that really dark and tempting quality that can really affect young peoples' attitudes towards relationships. maybe that magnetic quality is what makes ultraviolence such an attractive and scary but seductive album after all these years.
That’s sad because the aim of those lyrics was actually the complete opposite. I hope you are doing better now.
Life support by Madison Beer is the best album ever. How could you not love songs like good in goodbye, blue, emotional bruises? each song has a unique vibe to it and madison’s voice is beautiful in all her tracks. i highly suggest a revisit to this album because it is amazing sonically and lyrically
The albums I think aged like milk from the Artist mentioned
Lady Gaga: Joanne, I can’t name one song from this album that’s been in my most streamed
Taylor Swift: 1989 before swifties attack me,I just don’t listen to the songs on this album as much as her others. Most of her music ages extremely well because of her writing
Ariana Grande: positions, like Taylor swift’s 1989 it’s still good there’s just better in the discogrophy
The weekend: everything cause the Idol dropped
Selena Gomez: Rare, I just can’t name one song on this album that’s lasted in my most streamed songs
Halsey: Room 93, it’s the forgotten child
Lana Del Rey: Born to die standard edition because paradise edition dropped
Drake: I plead the fifth ( I’m scared of the fanbase)
Madison Beer: As she pleases, idk I enjoy all her songs as the same
I agree about Rare and Positions! But 1989? To me most songs are bops to this day and I still hear Blank Space on the radio at least once a week :)
Reputation hasn't aged the best. While i still like don't blame me and some other songs, I agree with honest that a lot of it is kinda cringy. I get what she was trying to do but it didn't land as well with me.
@@justina2320 I was between 1989 and Lover, while Rep may not have aged well as a body of work every song on Rep is still landing in my Top 100 streamed songs a year list
@@justina2320 also debut too but that albums singles and track 5 still hold up. For me Taylor albums don’t really age badly at all because her pen, even on a bad day only makes bops and bops only I do think Lover and 1989 have some of her weekest writing on them. Also Shake it off and Me! Ruin 1989 and Lover respectively. I think reputation has its niches which save it and honestly make it one of her best albums, but it’s very much an album you have to live through to get.
as she pleases was an alright ep, but life support was so much better, she really stepped it up. hopefully her next album will be good too
@@makeitrainnnn I think it will be, the album role out has been messy but the next single should come with the album
Your opinion on reputation is how I feel about Taylor’s entire career
lmaooo xD
Ultraviolence only got better with time and it will continue to age like fine wine. In a few decades, out of all the today's artists, Lana and Ultraviolence will be the only one to still have a huge cult following. Mark my words.
Ultraviolence is the best birthplace of her Unreleased songs
Selena Gomez (Rare) : Lose You to Love Me will forever be one of her greatest and Look At Her Now is still a bop, I can see why they were the album's lead singles. But surprisingly what makes the album an underrated masterpiece is also what makes it forgettable. Somehow her wispy vocals just don't have the same staying power as in Hands To Myself, Back To You, Wolves, It Ain't Me, Good For You and Bad Liar. That said, I still think A Sweeter Place, People You Know and Fun, especially considering the subject matter, make for really cute songs from Rare.
Absolutely
Lose you to Love me sounds bland. I like it, when it first came out.
Look at her Now is another bland song. Didn't age well
Ariana Grande Vevo positions performance, sounds better than Selena's Gomez Lose You to Love me.
I get what you're saying, but at the same times those older songs you listed are shallow and don't have the same depth as LYTLM and LAHN lyrics-wise. RARE was the album were she could finally showcase her real feelings & ability as a songwriter (she wrote the lyrics and they felt super personal). So I still like the album, though there are some negative things about it. 🤷♀️
@@Unsweetened8618why u tryna create fanwars? Look at Ariana the poor girl is underweight & had way too much plastic surgery, and tho she's talented vocally her recent songs sound so bland too... No shade. Stop comparing two different female singers.
Ultraviolence was the last album before "we live in a society" started to affect art. My favourite.
Something in music has changed in the last decade or so. Music was amazing in the early 2000's. As we started moving into the 2010's, it started out strong but as the years went on I found less and less music that I liked in the mainstream radio. I grew up listening to the radio and loved at least 80-90% of songs most of the time. It was joyful to listen to the radio. Today I hear most new songs from Tiktok/shorts vids. There are a few that I like, and thats fine. But radio/billboard top 100 rarely seems to have anything that really hits like those songs did back in the day. There are some decent songs among the trash pile, but I feel their quality and substance is very lackluster and only lasts for a little while before the chorus gets tiresome. Like its cool let the artists that want to make tik tok sound music do that, but we need to shine more like on real quality artists. Also the legends that rocked the early 2000s and 2010s, where are youuuuu???!! They could literally have a no. 1 single in a heart beat. The people are dying for good quality music. Please put me on I can tell you what would be amazing. Please stop with the quick buck songs that aint shit. A lady gaga song should never be boring or low quality. Its GAGA. Miss paparazzi, Miss alejandro, Miss just dance, etc!!! When i was a kid growing up and listening to these songs i was so excited to go to the club XD
Buutt, Reputation had some really good songs on it. I was obsessed with " I did something bad " ahhh I think she should have taken an approach in the direction of " Haunted " if you like that song you have great taste. I loved loved her early albums, doesnt matter if its country or pop or what the fuck ever those albums has so much meaning and feelings and substance. On lana del rey, i think " Born to die " was an absolute masterpiece. like woah.... thats what i want from her albums. Like we know how amazing these artists are and i just dont understand why the quality in music has gone down. Dont get me wrong there are still some bops and shit, so thankful for those but they are almost few and far in between.
I’m right there with you! Idk if it’s just nostalgia from being in my late teens and early 20s during the early 2010s, or if the actually quality of Top 40 music is going down. But MY GOD do I miss going to the club and dancing to electro pop bangers. I miss looking forward to my favs dropping new music. I miss actually having a “song of the summer” or “song of the year” as opposed to a few viral moments for songs that last days to weeks. I miss songs that were a moment and represent certain times in my life. Music you actually enjoyed and experienced with other people. Now if feels like music is something made to be enjoyed alone, and always has a to be super deep. I know streaming and social media have a lot to do with this, but it’s so depressing to look back on and compare to what music has turned into.
Nah the Ultraviolence take is crazy, that’s her best work
Rare has GOT to be Selena Gomez WORST album in her discography 😭
Ikr such a let down from her droplet era, she needs to do dark music, thats where voice shines the most
All of Harry's albums have different feels to them, but they are all great tbh
it's so easy to forget you're listening to someone's opinion when you just sat there and watched them diss some of your favorite songs 😭
I know 😭 But I do have to remember that it isn’t personal and it’s just what he thinks
someone not liking your favorite music is not a personal attack against you. a little weird to take it so personal and get in your feelings about that….
@@shizzlemywizzle1 huh- 😀
Ultraviolence meant so much to me when i first heard it, and it still means so much to me today. I got it tattooed when i was 14. I wouldn't be the person i am today if i didn't experience this.
plz i just bought a reputation cd a few minutes ago i love that album to death 😭 as for swifties ive noticed this album has actually become more loved over time as people learn to appreciate it
Although I absolutely love this album, 30 by Adele has not aged as well as her previous albums
I absolutely love Life Support! It’s too underrated
i stand by what i’ve always thought, Positions will be a classic
i agree with most of these but “harry styles” to me is actually one of the best debut albums of all time. it’s very interesting, amazing instrumentals, i think it showcases his best vocals? he has a great rockn roll voice which was surprising to hear, the lyrics are good, there are absolute hard hitting songs like kiwi, only angel, carolina and then ballads like sweet creature and sign of the times which was a very brave thing to do for a debut lead single. meet me in the hallway, from the dining table and epecially ever since new york are very emotional and deeper than most songs on harry’s house. for me it’s a 10/10 album and some of his songs like lights up, she and to be so lonely touch that same vibe which i love but with his most recent album, he really stepped away from that sound which is unfortunate in my opinion. Fine Line is by far his best album melodically, lyrically, and most personal songs and lyrics. i think both hs1 and fine line will be replayed for years to come, while with harry’s house i can already see that i’m losing interest and the only “timeless” songs there for me are little freak, matilda, keep driving and daydreaming.
i agree with most of the takes. my perspective with reputation is different just because i didn’t start getting into taylor until last year so reputation is
still relevant to me. i also love manic, it’s my favorite halsey album second to her last project and showcases her songwriting greatly.
i weirdly think positions aged rly well and arguably better than thank u next
UNPOPULAR OPINION:- renaissance by beyonce is aging as well!!!!!!!!
it aged for me the moment it dropped😭
Mine is Pink Friday. Aside from Roman Reloaded and a few other songs I didn’t realize how generic most of the album is when it first released. She really stepped it up with Pinkprint.
what a terrible take both albums were great
@@iloveyoucelinedion4080Can’t he have his own opinion??
that’s tea
i personally wouldnt call it generic, but i think some of it does sound dated and its definitely not my faveeee. there are also a lot of classics on there i still listen to occasionally. but pinkprint defo hit the spot for me and is her best album so far
i agree. its so iconic but its very of its time, it’s like a cute little time capsule of 2011. but you’re so right about the pinkprint it’s a 10/10 album i love it so much.
Life support and ultraviolence?! Are you fr?! 😭
Reputation I think aged very well, one, the criticism of cancel culture and with the new about Kanye becoming worse everyday, it's inspirations are still very valid. Second, the songs are current without being on the nose, and the overall theme of betrayal and finding love in the most unexpected places is timeless and was executed excellently. Third, the songs absolutely slap and always have.
Beyonce's lemnade album there weren't any good songs just my honest opinion
Ultraviolence, Life Support, Reputation, and Positions are the major ones I gotta disagree with and had me kinda shocked
Personally, I think Positions is AT LEAST better than My Everything. My Everything just sounds like a greatest hits album with filler and a few gems, but it just can't stand as an Album. Positions actually feels like a project, while definitely not being Ari's best one.
Positions could've been great, but it feels rushed. Had she taken more time on it, I think it will be even better.
@@005_nini yeah I agree!
I feel like rep is a very misunderstood album. Dark sounds? yes. Dark story? no. It's a dark romance album. And I know concepts "don't make a great album" or whatever but I feel like rep has songs that are very underrated. The city vibe to end game. The production of I Did Something Bad and Don't Blame Me on loud in the car at night, Delicates beautiful vocals, getaway car closer, dancing with our hands tied verses, DRESS? Ending it with call it what you want and New Years day is justbneautiful to me. Does rep have some mid songs to me? yea, like 2 but that's it really. I still vibe to the songs I'd call "mid" th 💀
What's sad is that now, every time I hear Selena Gomez name, I immediately think about singing off key to my chorus!
1. Chromatica (I agree): I felt like the album didn’t deserve enough attention for me. I really enjoyed this album, but yes, revisiting it isn’t as fun as it was as the first listen.
2. Repuation (Absolutely Agree): This album was boring at the very first listen. It was a “woe is me” “everyone hates me” whiny album. It reminds me of the spoiled girl in school not being picked first for the first time. Compared to her previous works, reputation was awesome. I have no idea who this is someone’s favorite TS album
3. Harry Styles (Disagree): If the only justification is “it’s not as good as his later works”, then a lot of artist would be on this list. The album still holds weight. A debut album is an artist dipping their toe in the water. The album is still very enjoyable to me, one that I enjoy revisiting.
4. Positions (disagree): I love it. I’m sorry. I really enjoyed this album. But I really love Ari so I can’t be taken too seriously with this.
5. Beauty Behind the Madness (I agree): Literally agree.
6. Rare (agree): I really enjoyed this album. A lot. When it first came out. But I have no desire to revisit it.
7. Manic: Halsey is a boring pop artist to me. Never heard it.
8. Views (absolutely): I didn’t even like this album when it came out.
9. Madison Beer: I don’t listen to here.
10. Ultraviolence: NOOOOOO 😢😢😢😢
Reputation has a whole fandom btw >>>
I honestly hate what Lana's music has become. I miss the Ultraviolence, BTD era. But I think Lana is in a happier space now personally, so I'm absolutely HERE FOR THE NEW HER.
i agree so much, i think lyrically lana has become so much better but her production and instrumentals are so boring recently. i liked jack antanoff's work on NFR but in her other albums it just felt stale and tired. she needs to work with whoever produced BTD, Ultraviolence and Honeymoon again because those albums are perfection. There’s some great produced songs on ocean blvd but a lot are extremely boring and just sound like poetry not an actual song it makes them hard to distinguish, i do appreciate the lyrical talent but i also want good production too. if she finds the right balance she’ll be unstoppable
TOTALLY AGREED. i'm happy for her. but her older music was so colourful, cinematic, campy even. everything since honeymoon (except lust for life and some ocean blvd tracks) makes me see her as this tired grandmother who has just enough energy to croon softly on the mic. i want the Lizzy grant era/sounds back. bring back the drama and camp :')
Omg most of the albums are my faves to this day especially ultraviolence 😂 but tbh I kinda understand your take on reputation. Some songs are kinda cheesy especially in retrospect
Right the true Lana albums that didn't age well/aren't aging well are Lust for Life, Chemtrails, & Blue Banisters. PERIOD
@@selfidolizationI think BB didn't age well AT ALL. But I think her newest one will stand the test of time
@@Allie.S Agreed, the latest album is really beautiful & has a lot of interesting things happening sonically.
feel like blue bannisters is the worst lana album. i keep going back to uv LfL btd cocc but i just keep forgetting bb exsists
Yeah reputation by Taylor is now my least favorite album by her. I thought it was fantastic at the time but over time, I’m not as big a fan of it.
Not Chromatica & Ultrsviolence "not aging well" 😭😭
JUSTICE FOR ULTRAVIOLENCE
ultraviolence is arguably her best album, maybe second only to born to die. ocean blvd, blue banisters, and chemtrails over the country club barely hold a torch to ultraviolence.
you should collab with friendly space ninja
Its crazy that his channel grew in such little time, already one of my fav YTers
@@JasmineBurnett-pd8bz same!
ultraviolence was my seggsual awakening, but even as a 12 year old i knew not to take the toxic message too seriously. but the songs helped me picture myself in a movie/story in my mind. it was so rich and moody and transported me to a very different world where the violence stuff is seen as an inevitable and natural thing.
Mine:
Chromatica (Tho it was Cute that Gaga embrace 90's dance culture during the retro 80 craze i only remember Alice)
Midnights (didn't click with me also SIDE note Jail to whoever decided that Paris, Hits Different and You're Losing Me were supossed to be bonus tracks)
Harry's House (GENERIC)
Yours Truly (very derivative of Ariana influences but i like it)
BBTM (meh....tho great singles)
Stars Dance (i mean sounds like a Lot of Rihanna rejects)
HFK (Pretentious AF)
Scorpion (You know why)
Ultraviolence (Gurl LEAVE the sad girl aestethic on 2013)
I know My reasoning it isn't very logicial but bare with me for a minute
Life Support still slaps
The fact you chose albums that haven’t aged 💀
Life support is excellent to me 😭