Broken Plugin Reviews On Youtube?
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- How many of you have been in this situation?
You watch a youtube video about a new plugin, and the review is good enough to convince you to spend money. But, in use, you regret your choice and wish you had a better way of knowing what you can trust.
I had a sit-down and wanted to consider why this may happen to us and how we can avoid it in the future.
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This is a good RUclips video
It’s engaging, humorous and educational. What’s not to love!
I don’t necessarily care as much about what you’re using, as much as how you’re using “it” and what you’re looking for. That’s what I’d like to see next. What are you looking/listening for, and how do you go about achieving what your seeking out. Thank you for the new video. Much appreciated
Thanks Chris :) - Noted.
Omg new G1 video 😩
show me how you get that snare tone from hypnosis ughhhh
5:55 “Don’t take advice from someone whose success you do not wish to imitate”
A nice gem of information right there! I think this is a great mantra for music makers, and you said it perfectly.
A while back I watched a video on how an engineer mixed the drums for a band that I liked the drum sound on, and it was presented in a very "you must do it this way" manner. Stupidly, I waited until after the video to look into what album he mixed, and it turned out it was just a live album that I didn't even like, and had no intention of imitating. Now I'm much better about making sure that their end goals are something I would be happy with before taking all of the advice to heart, but it is easy to get caught up in the "they have great camera quality, lots of followers, and a cool studio, so they must be speaking facts" mentality.
I've had a hard time recently being bombarded with all of the "You NEED this to be successful" videos, and it's seeming like there are a lot of producer/engineers that make their money off of selling courses and bootcamps rather than actually working with music. I would love to hear more about your workflow and how you came to use what you use, as your work speaks for itself and is a refreshing departure from the elitist "you need xyz" mentality all over the industry at the moment.
Thanks again for another great video!
since the lockdown has ended i find that I'm too judgemental of dishonesty in people, especially in my music life, im not getting on with people i work with and i need to sort it out and address it,
this channel is so so refreshing to me, thanks George, Massive respect, i finally got myself the UAD distressor yesterday, it is definitely a bonus to my workflow , i have crush on my drums now))
Distressor life is the one!! Thank you for the feedback
Experienced recently, nearly was sold on a plugin by the advertising and videos they put out, but when I tried the demo, I realized that it wasn't adding anything to my workflow and could be replicated with what I already have. If it wasn't for the plugin having a demo, I would be down $200+ for something that's effectively dead storage space
What it did teach me is a couple things:
1) The quality of your sources will determine everything, and that's why the advertising pulled me in; the quality of the tracks they displayed were recorded well which can make the plugins seem almost magical in quality.
2) It doesn't matter what tool you use, if you know what your intent is with mixing, you can get the same results from 10 different EQs. IMO, the viability of a plugin is about how much it gets out of the way while working. The less obstacles between your brain saying "the snare needs top end" and completing that action, the better. You can achieve that with any EQ out there, but the plugin that's the best at it won't be one that's "better" sounding. It will be the one that gets it done in the most efficient way for you, and allows more direct lines between your mixing intent and the controls.
In terms of content I'd like to see, maybe something discussing your philosophy behind sound designing for tracks, to show the sonic possibilities you can create in a mix.
Excellent content on the channel George, really great topics and things to think about.
Man, your perspective is such a breath of fresh air. I cannot understate how much I appreciate this level of transparency.
I can't even begin to fathom the amount of time I've wasted in the rabbit hole of that cycle you mentioned, with finding irrelevant information and making it work.
Thank you for taking the time to put this out onto the waves.
Here's to hoping this approach doesn't get picked up and weaponized by bait and switch marketers.
Cheers, George.
P.S. bonus kudos for also being a tortie cat dad. It's a hard life.
This video is even more justified after watching your 800 plugin video. After watching that I realized I only used about 25 out of 150ish plugins I own, wasted a lot of money. There is a problem with major producers and mix engineers constantly selling new products, when you're in the industry it feels like you're going to "fall behind" if you're not apart of it. Great video as always!
sounds toys flterfreak was a huge regret for me, total garbage!
This sounds... Pragmatic? I dig it.
I've had these exact queries regarding Claro and Pro-Q3, and probably others in the past. So knowing whether something *would* improve workflow and *how* are welcome bits of info.
The "watching past half way" comment has come up before, sounds rough. I'm always sticking around but I also went back and re-watched you make a coffee on the storm video. So my opinion probably doesn't count for much there. 😅
On that note. What I'd like to see from the channel is probably more coffee and cats.
Take it easy, man. Looking forward to whatever comes out.
Recently, as embarrassing as it is to admit, I finally really started "hearing" compression and what it does. When I started, I would have equated it to some kind of dark art or sonic alchemy, but a few months ago something clicked. That had more impact on my mixes than any plugin I've bought in the past few years. Don't get me wrong, I love gear. Playing with knobs is really fun. But since you're offering to show us more about how you work, I'd be more interested in your process than your gear. Learning has always eclipsed the benefit I've received from new plugins or hardware.
So here's what I'd love to see more about. The earliest stages of the process. There are thousands of mixing tutorials on RUclips. There isn't much reputable content I've found on getting things right from the tracking stage and making good production decisions early on. Some of these mixing videos floating around are good, but they don't tell beginners to make sure they track with fresh guitar strings. Or to ask your neighbor when they will be mowing the lawn before making time for vocal tracking. Simple stuff like that. I want to know as many early-game tips and tricks as you would be willing to share. I want to set my mixes up for success at the ground level.
10/10 did not click off 1/2 way through. Cat was worth the wait. It’s also great to see some light being shed on the insane amount of reviews and demos out there that aren’t helpful based on lack of relevant context. “Check put this insane ampsim, its so good it will basically mix your guitars for you!” *proceeds to play a totally mixed song*
I’ve been roped into buying more plugins than I care to admit based solely on a combo of that and my never ending GAS.
I would definitely love to watch more about why you choose to use some of the stuff that you do use, especially in the context of why you prefer it over some of the possibly more “popular” or commercially appealing options.
Also subscribed. Can’t guarantee I’m not a dick though. Subjective I suppose.
Appreciate the thought and sentiment you put into this video George. Especially about following advice from people you want to be.
I for one was constantly targeted by the plugin alliance adverts where each similar eq had was praised for being someone’s “go to”. After they say a similar thing about 5 different eq’s you do start to question if there’s a marketing agenda in there…
Studio tours are interesting to me when explaining what is actually important to you and what is not. For example your writing room, what’s in there and what inspires you to write. Also over the years seeing stuff evolve is insightful.
got a Domino’s ad on this video, incredible.
the “just because it’s on RUclips” bit of advice is a good thing to be mindful of in general on social media I think!
HI George, i love tech reviews in general, but as an URM student I would particulary like to know more about how "tech" does in a studio contex. That's why i'm GIGA curious about your workflow with this new Mac Studio. And you do reviews like this very well (AirPod Studio review for example) Peace ✌
Love this philosphy of your's and the fact that you know about your influence on somebody's opinion at this point.
I would love to know more about the fact WHY you choose a piece of hardware over plugins (maybe in comparison) or WHY exactly you choose THIS plugin over the others. What's the thing you are looking for in that moment. So more of "what are you listening for" and how to tackle that points then.
With these words , I'd love a video of you talking about hardware , Amps and audio processing unit ( Fatsssoooo for exemple ) and explaining how it changed something in your life / workflow , Thanks for this quality video !
It’s a rock and a hard place I find George. My channel is small and I have only done a few plugin videos, but if I recall I recommended people try the demo version to see if it works for them. And whenever I’ve been asked questions about gear I recommend they try to rent or borrow it first if possible.
There is also the fact that just because I really like a piece of gear or a plugin doesn’t mean it’s right for everyone. It’s a very fine line that I feel we need to walk. Sure it’s nice to make some affiliate money (we’ve gotta eat too lol) but not at the expense of someone spending their money on something they didn’t really need, or that didn’t work for them.
I haven’t done a video on this exact subject but it’s nice to see I’m not the only one wrestling with this. 🙂
I definitely want to know all your gear, and why you still use each item. You can do an update video, to refresh this once every 6 months,
Then a video on the gear you bought and regretted.
And a video on the top 30 plugins you use all the time.
Also a video on what you use for instruments, real or virtual.
What kind of music do you like producing or mixing.
And how did you get into audio and music?
That's at least 6 videos, to respond to these issues, and oh, how have you managed your room treatment.
Finally which online resources =, eg, forums or magazines, or blogs, or shops etc, which are your most used learning resources?
I'm sure I can think of some more, but these should be enough for a start
I’ve been trying working on scaling back and simplifying my workflow/plugin list for a while now. Watching your video where you deleted 800 plugins and coming across a few old Gearspace posts from Charlie Clouser (where spoke about using only stock Logic plugins with a small handful of third party plugins, his main reason being that he wanted to be able open an old session if he needed to and not have old plugins crash or not be able to load). Since then I’ve been deleting a bunch of plugins and mainly using stock Logic plugins, I been using third party plugins to fill in the gaps and deficiencies in my toolbox. There might be a loss in some quality, but the stock Logic are just as good (and sometimes better) and quicker than third party plugins. Plus, they’re made to work with Logic so they’re more reliable than any third party plugin (and Apple is good at making sure to keep legacy plugins available to open sessions from old versions of Logic which is a big plus). Being able to open old sessions is more important to me anyway than a fancy expensive plugin anyway. A year from now I won’t be able to listen to something and tell the difference between a third party eq or a stock eq anyway, so there’s no real point. And, to be honest, since I’ve started scaling back I’ve started to have this feeling of “really, another one of those, what does it differently than the one by the other developer”. I guess this video kind of validates what I’ve been feeling, in a way. Thanks for the video.
I agree with some of the posters here: would love to see some early-stage hows. Your gain staging collection on URM was game-changing (gain-changing?) and some fundamentals-oriented videos would be my vote. I know that the more we mix the more the process evolves but I appreciate how you break down the skills aspect; the ear will develop if it’s pointed in the right direction. 🤘🏻🙏🏻
Thank you for the video and I appreciate the honesty. I would love to see videos about mixing faster and efficiently and creating mixing templates. Thx :-)
Id like to know more about your launch pad setup that you have been posting to instagram lately, sounds really dope. Also seeing how you work with synths and effects would be interesting.
I can say that I don't experience a lot of regret because I always hunt for cheaper alternatives (Analog Obsession has saved me big money) and always look for something with a trial period. The only thing I've bought blind recently was the TBPro Audio DSEQ3 and it did exactly what I wanted.
In that route, I love when engineers talk about the things that are actually essential no matter what level they are at (people getting on youtube and telling everyone to cover half their room with rock wool isn't helpful for us normies). People giving out practical gear advice rather than flexing with their studio gear is what we need.
Solid RUclips and much needed in the age of ads.
This has never really affected me as far as decisionmaking, but has annoyed me beyond belief for wasting my time on useless videos mislabeled as "reviews" when in fact they were nothing but an overview of a product, doing nothing but going over its functions.
This is an important conversation. I've been falling victim to it for years. PS - I'd love to see your hybrid workflow. You've briefly touched on it via NTM. Cheers!
Hey there, George. That's a cool video for sure. I have been very frustrated lately by the fact that it's almost impossible to find genuine review of a product that I'm interested in. All the "professional" guys are basically paid to say nice things about the product and don't have any criticism, and regular joes are either trying to seem like "professional" guys by praising the product regardless of its quality or not capable of properly reviewing it. There are quite a few channels now which can provide the audience with honest feedback. I've been a NDSP hoarder for years now, and it's safe to say that while the quality of their stuff is great, there are lots of repetitions in FX that' I've paid for over and over due to the Domino's Effect. Would love to know more of your thoughts on the industry of plugins and samples. P. S. would you consider your Drumshotz pack useful and unique if it wasn't something that you've created? Cheers
Drumshotz unique? I dno mate. They're hits taken from records that I've made and are processing recipes that help people get a sense of whats going on.
Unique, probably not in the idea of what they are. Useful is down to application. Like, I use them in productions from time to time when I'm drawing a blank and I want to push things along. Does that help?
@@GeorgeLeverG1 i get what it is, I just think that drum sample market is oversaturated with similar products which is one of the points of this video
Amazing advice dude. I'd love to see how you approach low end in rhythm guitars or maybe just low end in general. It's my biggest enemy at this point and you seem to handle it a bit differently than others while still achieving awesome results.
As a student who has to be fairly discerning about what plugins and gear I buy, one thing I really appreciate is when companies offer a trial of their software that doesn't have any restrictions on functionality. There's lots of critiques I have for someone like Neural DSP as far as their marketing is concerned but I can use their stuff for two weeks and figure out if it sounds the same as what I have or actually improves the range of sounds I can make, and I think that hands on experience prevents the vast majority of gear regret for me. When I start using something and have a gut reaction like "oh I've been missing this in my life" that's when I know it's worth while.
Something I personally don't see enough is how a product (regardless of whether or not it's hardware or a plugin) can be used DIFFERENTLY to achieve the same thing. For instance, a channel strip plugin is demoed through the mixing of a vocal. Every voice is different though, so what I'd like to see is more than one vocal being mixed with the same plugin... preferably in context! Better yet, comparisons to similar products. I.e., "now that I've shown you how to mix this track with 'A,' I'm going to show you something similar with 'B.'" It helps solidify the concept that everything it dependent on SOURCE MATERIAL and INTENT. It's something that I (barely an intermediate mixer, mind you) often struggle with committing to! Oh, and I also think why something may be worth having over STOCK PLUGINS is extremely important
I'd love to see you talk about the 33609 and how you've gone that route for your mixes over the g comp from what ive seen in URM threads discussing that as your new bus comp of choice
I still have and use the SSL - the SSL hasn't ever been used as a mix bus comp!
Hey George, I’d love to see your process to gain staging drums and quantising them.
Thanks for all the awesome, genuinely educational content.
I decide by watching someone use a plug-in in a production video in a way that I would or would like to. I saw you use one of those Korneff plug ins that I would probably buy
Hi George.Thanks for the video. I would definitely like to know more about your speakers and how you use reference tracks. I always find it hard to to judge the amount of treble, specially in the snare. I feel that in modern mix the amount of treble is constantly pushed up and I wanted to know more about your approach. I love your work by the way !!!
I actually did a whole course about referencing on the URM Academy website! It requires an Enhanced membership but its over 4 hours long and goes over every aspect of this.
@@GeorgeLeverG1 Ok, I have a membership in URM. I think I will be enhanced :-)
@@xirtamxirtam1 You can get a free trial my friend, should be top left on your dashboard.
Sadly i used mine already and will be some time before i can access again, Have fun.
@@riptideL Thanks a lot !!!
Hey man!
I would love to hear more about your approach to creating space within creative mixes (for example Thornhill’s Heroine). Vocals are incredibly unique, driven the entire time and tucked in the mix - yet they have space to breathe in a dense arrangement. Would love to hear about how you are able to create such dirty/aggressive sounds and still fit them into a pristinely polished mix.
Thanks!
Lovely to see you back and with a particularly good video. Thanks!
Looking forward to hearing you talking about any plugins you feel like addressing in this way, since it seems like the thought behind it will be way more important than which specific tool. That said, I’d like to hear a bit more about Softtube Tape.
PS Hope you are still eating your goddamn vegetables.
One of my favorite engineers dropping some truth bombs.
I like the "this did/didn't work for me and why" approach, because that's what those of us who come here because we care about your approach are looking for. I'm more interested in finding out what you're listening for, what you hear, and how you apply that.
The pure feature rundown type videos certainly have their place, and they're good for figuring out whether there's a feature set that I may like...but for me at this point if there's no plugin free trial it's a non-starter. Regardless of what's said about it, I want to see how it feels and how it fits into what I'm doing before I'm going to drop cash on it. I've impulse-bought a few in my day and have always had that Domino's feeling after. Which is a large part of why I've developed a fair bit of paralysis when it comes to purchasing physical gear, especially when none of my local shops have any of the stuff I want, for me to try out first.
So...specifically with outboard gear or physical stuff like guitar amps & pedals, how do you get yourself comfy enough to drop that kind of money, when it's not possible to try it out ahead of time? And to go along with that, is there anything in particular that makes you reach for outboard over a plugin with a mix or a re-amp or something of the sort? Also more cats please. :)
Thank you George, this is a great video! I’ve seen you use the Korneff Amplified Instrument Processor and am curious whether or not it is right for me so I’d love to see you talk about your experience with that :)
I definitely fell victim to hunting out that quick fix, without learning how to use the plugins I already had properly. I’d like to see a video on you tracking through your rig, and the thought process of how you choose the signal chain
I MADE IT TO THE END!!!! George, huge fan of you work and sound! Any chance you can share your insight into tracking with compression and eq ? So many conflicting views as far as it being a "good idea". Kinda curious if you tracked with any processing on kick and snare for the Thornhill or Loathe records. Thanks so much and I'll continue to try and not be a dick!
Thanks man! Thats an awesome video, i really appreciate your take on that matter! I would actually like to now much more how you approach mixing drums i.e. whats your main fx chain on the tracks (especially drums). I am trying to get better at mixing myself but am struggeling a little on what to do on certain occasions. :) Thanks man!
Hi George! I found this video EXTREMELY helpful. I find myself having your records on repeat. Studying your tones your workflow and your logic is very important to me because I wanna be at your level someday with it being my full time job. Your videos have given me a lot of what I’ve been asking As far as what plug-ins are gonna work in the context of what I’m trying to do and to not be a dick 😉. A question I have is would you consider doing another video on how you achieve a full drum recording. I know there’s already a video on that but what’s new? Anything that you have done recently that’s different? Did it come out the way u wanted it to? How do you use the gear you have to do so? and what do you do to prep before having clients?
I love this more than words can describe.
I think personally, id like to know how you developed your ears, to make certain decisions within different processes. Such as ‘deciding what specific saturation you used in XYZ’ or, ‘specific preamps to use when track ABC’
How did you train your ears, to such a refined way, and any advice youd give on doing the same.
I know this might not be helpful to hear, but I honestly don’t know why or how you don’t have more followers. Your videos are beautifully shot, you have a wealth of knowledge, you are one of the few honest people on here. I really hope the channel blows up for you. Although I don’t think you need it to, you clearly are successful without it!
I would love to see some more stuff on mastering. So what to look out for with frequencies, adding colour to the sound to fill it out etc.
Love this - and it is very helpful. Thank you Rich!
@@GeorgeLeverG1 You are more than welcome mate! Your vids have really helped me and inspired me, so I appreciate your hard work!
One idea that could be really cool could be to look at a song submitted by a subscriber and give your opinion on how it could be improved. I mean I know I would LOVE to have your feedback on one of my tracks. There are other RUclipsrs that do this, but none where I actually love the work they put out themselves…which kind of ties in with what you were saying in the video. I think having the guy that produced some of the best albums in recent years, dissecting subscribers tracks and giving feedback would be amazing. Even if it was something you had to (quite rightly) pay for you to do.
Thanks for the video and message. I'd love to hear more about your workflow and use cases with modeling equipment like the slate ml1 and vms plugin. Looking to learn more on how to best use my small slate mic locker (2ml1 and 2ml2) through a 4ch mellenia HV3D.
'best use' - I often find comes down to accepting you're going to make mistakes. Mistakes are really useful as an informative tool. The more we do it and understand whats happening, the better we will get at getting closer to our desired goals.
I'm not sure you need me to tell you how to use a mic. put it on stuff. Does it sound good? if not, try something new. what changed? whats the difference? is that better or worse?
its an art form. Trust yourself.
Hey George! It would be amazing if you could show us your room acoustic treatment in detail
I did an update about this and what is bought in the studio update video last year?
Great video! I love that I always come away questioning myself (in a good way) after watching your videos.
There are a ton of compressors that all claim to have "the sound" or whatever that means. I'd love to see you do a rundown of what plugins you have kept and what use generally use each one for. For instance why you would use talkback limiter instead of an 1176 or pro C or even stock compression. I'm just curious of your opinion.
Thanks for the introspective content! Cheers
well I can save you there - I've never used a talkback limiter. I'll have to talk to Dan Korneff about that huh...
@@GeorgeLeverG1 yeah you probably should haha
I think this solves the main problem I have had with the plug-in shilling RUclips machine. Basically all I’ve ever wanted was for someone to actually show how things are used or utilized in a real tangible way and not just a demo made in a few hours specifically for the plug-in. Makes sense for like an amp sim or something but for a fancy delay or something that will just flutter in the background? How am I supposed to care about your delay VS the 24 I already have downloaded?
Also think it would be great to get permission from certain companies by saying “hey, I’ll take the plug-in and I’ll try it out on some productions. If I end up using it and it goes to record, I’ll make a video about it and show how it was used. If not, sorry mate”. I think that might be a great way to bridge the gap between plugins that end up in the “unused” folder and those that end up on the next record you’re really proud of.
Thanks for the videos once again!
I’d like to get your input on recording guitars. Specifically the balance of workflow efficiency vs what you deem the best approach sonically. I’ve been using plugins, an Iridium, an Ox, a Revv D20 and classic just micing amps. Now the work flow and efficiency of stuff like plugins or the iridium is unparalleled but every time I shoot them all out I always end up liking the mic’d cabs best. When you’re working on a project does workflow often win out or will you spend the extra time for a minor sonic improvement? Does that change if the budget is smaller or larger for a project? Hope this makes sense
Show us some ITB vs hardware comparisons please George.
This is a really refreshing video - well said
I’d love to see you go in depth about using compressors on guitars. I’ve seen a few examples of you doing this, and it always interested me because it ran counter to the common wisdom of “distorted guitars are already compressed as hell, no need to compress them further”. So I’d love to know your general approach, bits of gear you feel facilitate that approach best and what you want to hear as a result of that process.
Most people use compression to level out a performance. However you may find that compression on distorted guitars is being used in order to ADD movement back in after levelling something out.
Thats about it really. Typically when I've used compression on guitars in the past it is via the fatso but thats more about its tonal circuit than the compression overall.
@@GeorgeLeverG1 That makes sense. Thanks!
I would love to know what you would suggest for getting started as an audio engineer. Kind of "getting yourself out there" a little bit, if that makes sense?
I would love to know what your setup is for recording guitar DI. Are you running direct into an interface or using a DI box into a mic pre? Do you always record DI when tracking guitar, or do you prefer to have the direct amp tone more?
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I've pondered about this myself, persoanlly I've found my self looking into synth packs that I like that I've found from advertising usually, but know I can create them from scratch using the ones I have, I know the information is out there to learn how to use the more technical parts of the software that I have and that will achieve this sound that I want. These 'technical' parts are commonly found in mostly all of them its just I don't know where to find the information and when I do its not explained well
The dominos bit really hit home
What is a core/ must have in your personal recording situation and how do you apply it! id think that would be interesting
Workflow is the key for me now. I don't need more EQs, compressors, reverbs. If it's something that will really speed up my workflow, then I'll be interested.
metricAB !
@@GeorgeLeverG1 haha, cheers! One of my most recent plugin purchases! I also compose, so got the CUBE synth by Lunacy Audio, which does stuff I've never seen in any other sampling synth.
Hey George I would really like to know what camera and lens you use for your video content? Looks amazing!
In the description my dude!
the dominos effect holy shit lmao
Lol been going through all sorts of vids recently trying to resolve buzz coming from what i assumed was my mixer but was wires going to computer from mixer. Months ago when I discovered that problem i installed a digital mixer and got into daws a little bit, the stumble you mention straight off appears to be something i was concerned about, how many of these plugins are slight iterations of others? So i sort of avoided those and collected instruments.
You used the AIP Korneff plug-in on a mix, and I would love a deep dive into it.
I would like to know your approach to mixing drums. I love the Sleep Token drum sound...very unique👌🏻
Some of the old RUclipsrs like Fluff (many others and fluffs still has great stuff) are strictly there to generate income and they all say “all thoughts and opinions are my own”. O rly. I’m all for someone making a living, but I miss the old days where people would just record songs with gear like Kieth Merrow used to do.
Now it seems like people are just dropping some 10 second portions of any way they can utilize it, into their presets, and calling it a day. Then using the influencer jargon to sell stuff.
I am trying to invest more on lessons from actual record production experts these days
As if out of spite or high calorie irony RUclips had me watch an Unison Audio ad during this video.
Trying to mix my Sleep Token cover, and I'm here 😂❤
Nice to see you sir, hope your doing well.
For people starting out in the world of mixing and sound, it can possibly be a bit of a minefield, for those who have been mixing for sometime and know what they are looking for, need and like, it's far less so, that said, were all a little guilty, erm, if that's the right word, of over indulging and wanting to experiment and try out new stuff. I think it doesn't help that from top pro engineers, who have everything, part of that trickles down, so there is this mentality of needing a plugin bc they use it, or are hawking their own brand. That said, there's no overt harm in this, so long as you know what you want, need and like. I use subscription based packages for that very reason, yes, not cost effective in the long run, surely, however, interesting to try out some plugins I've long wanted to test out, or sounds. Some packages I have discarded, others I have kept. If it all goes belly up, I haven't spent 200 dollars on a plugin that I don't use or like the sound of anymore or pay an update fee for.
I'd love to see you take a unmixed project, talk about what your hearing and what you want to hear. This part of the process would be most important to me.
Then see you work to that end whatever you choose to use to get to that sound.
Maybe seperate videos for guitar, drums, vocals... but I guess I'll find that content if I subscribe to urm? And rightly so as such a videos a major undertakings
I've done this exact process 3 times now with the URM Academy :) each stream is a 4-6 hour live event thats stored online and you get access to the streaming materials too - audio files etc!
@@GeorgeLeverG1 for sure man, I think a urm sub is on the cards👍
Hi George! Hope you are doing well - I've noticed that your website has changed over the last months. Where can i find your Kemper profiles available for purchase? Cheers from Greenland
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I just want new shiny things until I’m in debt
Hi George, also follow along with urm fb. I am at the moment looking at the STL Control hub and endlessly wracking my brain at to if i "need" more expansions. In my unprofessional mixing education of 10yrs i still don't trust myself alone to make good decisions. I feel its a truly great plugin that definitely does improve my workflow (i would love for you to check it out, i feel its revolutionary as far as workflow is concerned, but can i trust myself?)
But apart from that i would love to know what the smallest cluster of plugins you personally could use to get the high level results you get at the moment and what they are.
If we could all limit ourselves to an eq, compressor, and some time based fx, would we learn our craft better without distraction and increase workflow and output? I would love to know your thoughts.
Thanks again George.
🤔 ...The ONE thing you DIDN'T address was 90% of VSTs (including entire DAWs) can be downloaded for FREE for a Trial Period. I *ALWAYS* do this if possible so I can see if the VST is actually something that improves my workflow. If not, DELETE, and all is well -- no $$$ spent. If I love it, then I consider if it's WORTH the $$$ or possibly wait for a Sale or Black Friday... 🤔
I can't remember a single plugin I've purchased based on a RUclips review. Where RUclips comes in handy (for me) is watching the Manufacturer's Overviews & Tutorials AFTER I've purchased it.
OUTBOARD GEAR is a different problem since most gear doesn't come with a $$$‐back guarantee or Trial Period. In those cases I usually go to a music store (or a mate's house) to see if I can audition it there. But this too can be rare. In the end I don't believe I have this "G.A.S." that you're addressing, but if others followed these simple steps they probably wouldn't either 🤷♂️
Hope this helps 😎👍🎶✨️
DON'T ASK QUESTIONS, JUST CONSUME PRODUCT AND THEN GET EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCT
oh ok.
missed you
I stayed..🤔
Finally, honest advice.
I have bought a Stam u47 and Rode tf5 because of you. I don’t regret these purchases. I absolutely love them. Would still like to see you talk more about either of those mics.. especially the tf5 and techniques using them w diff instruments.
I'm glad you're enjoying the mics. Honestly. I just put the mics up and move them if I don't like what I hear initially. There isn't much of a science to it for me. Move until I don't hear the things I dislike anymore (shrug)
@@GeorgeLeverG1 concise advice. Appreciated.
I'm very curious about how you use and why you went from ssl style bus compression to neve diode style (mix and/or other busses). I use the townhouse plugin with a slower attack time most, if not all the time, but I also have a plugin of the diode bridge (got it in a bundle from arturia) and I'd like to get more use out of it. I like the vibe it gives but the quick attack time throws me off since I'm used to using slower attack times. So I'd love to see how you use it.
While we're at it, I also now others who use the ssl style with quicker attack times and I'd also love to understand how and why you'd do that. Because I love the aggression I hear when they show it (in nail the mix snippets on the urm yt page), but when I try it I also hear my whole mix being pushed more to the back, compared to the slower attack setting.
Thanks for all you do here ^^
I actually run both currently in cascading sequence - SSL into Neve. But I'll make a note of this.
@@GeorgeLeverG1 that sounds very interesting :o
Much appreciated if you get around to it
most products have demos these days, if im interested as its something that i feel may be an upgrade to what im currently using, or it looks to fill a gap in my tool box, or looks to help with my workflow, i demo it. If its replacing something, ill spend time ABing, if the new plug in sounds amazing, can my old plug in actually do that? I have probably learn more about my existing plug ins doing this than i did before, and usually, the answer is yet, it can, and i just wanted something shiney - its a no buy.
If they dont offer a demo however, then i am not interested - that to me shows a lack of faith in their own product.
Hardware is the same to an extent, using companies such as a big one in Germany (wont use the name) that have a greta returns policy, i have no qualms sending something back, if when it turns up, it looks pretty, has nice LEDs but doesnt provide any benefit.
There are a few decent channels that tend to try and be objective, even offer teh source files they used, or the prints they made - but lets be honest, the majority are paid shills, and will be singing the latest and greatest the following week.
Good Video BIg G!
Plugin demos - of course, but my gut feeling is many don't utilise this feature and simply dump money. We each have our process we go through but some do not have one at all. Fortunately it seems like you're very sensible indeed.
My only consideration with doing Hardware 'trials' - is I personally feel uncomfortable with the fuel milage and environmental cost. If I could offset this then maybe I'd be more comfortable with the idea of it.
I’d like to know how you streamline working with a band like Sleep Token? Do they record everything themselves or do you bring them in with the masks on?
Not reeeaaallly sure how useful that information is haha! I don't tend to talk about ST
@@GeorgeLeverG1 sorry I should’ve put more detail. Working with bands outside the studio. Like asking for more takes. Is it a pain what’s the pros and cons? Not specifically sleep token. I just mention them cause they’re so discreet
Domino's regrets😂... I have that with guitar pedals, modelers, plugins... even golf equipment. I even had a new schecter 7 string arive 1day with no recollection of buying it😊... 3am after a few. Turns out I love it. But really you have to buy stuff to figure out if you like it or not, I very much respect companies that give trials.
This will not be the kind of answer you're looking for, but I want to see more of your cats
I’ve noticed that writing music actually keeps the ”buying new plugins” down to a minimum.
The less i write the more i buy plugins 😂
Also, buy instruments. It give way more value than another 1176
damn that rode ribbon sounds alright
Love them dude. So much.
This is why I use free trials, see how it fits and base it on that :)
me searching ''what does (insert hyped plugin) do with bass?'' and the video is like ''yoooo dem 808's slap thooo'' fuck sake I said bass!!!!
Hi George, just wondering if you could make a video about your two Stam buss comps. You said you used the SSL clone for a while, but now swapped it for the neve one, could you do a breakdown of the difference you found between them and why you chose one over the over for certain jobs?
I still have the SSL - the Neve style replaced running through my BAE preamps at the end of the mix (well thats how it is currently)
@@GeorgeLeverG1 ahhh okay, so are you still using the 4000 on the mixbuss, or are you using for drums or something now?
@@AidenWrenPierce 4000 has only ever been used on the band bus. Never on complete mix
@@GeorgeLeverG1 thanks for the clarity. On your latest NTM sessions, did you have a similar setup to now, so I can rewatch and listen?
@@AidenWrenPierce yup. Only difference is on all the NTM I’ll have the BAE on the final stage.
George...Rant. Rant my friend, rant and we will all listen
I’m still on the fence about purchasing ‘Soothe2’ for all the reasons you talked about. Will using it really be a game changer?
whats the problem you're hoping to solve?
@@GeorgeLeverG1, Exactly!
I guess it tames harsh overtones on individual instruments. I occasionally have that problem. I’m just not sure how often I need AI to solve that for me instead of using my ear and sweeping through the frequency spectrum with a narrow bell curve boost.
For me it’s not exactly a game changer, it did help me work faster in many scenarios
@@XiyuYang, Faster workflow is important.
what sorta rig is that left eyebrow arch? what Q is the arch?
it's the Sean Connery 007 edition.
There's something oddly satisfying about your videos. You could talk about the benefits of getting punched in the face and I'd probably figure out a way to make that happen.
Excited though to see where you go from here!
So I don't have to eat my goddamn vegetables anymore? 🤔
I think it's a good angle to say if something is an improvement on existing work flow or better in some way than what you already have. I think it's easy for consumers to fall into the trap of having to have the new new, just because some RUclipsr tells you it's great. It pertains to all types of gear, really. 👍
"Welcome to APB, Anonymous Plugin Buyers... the first one is free, said the dealer..." ;-)
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