Been hearing a lot about Loathe lately. Also for me the used marketplace in my backwoods area in North Carolina has been a blessing. I’ve bought some amazing abandoned 7 string Ibanez RGs and Sterlings for under $250 that honestly are amazing workhorses.
Bought a couple of guitars in the day, all decent, but never had everything I wanted. So I dove into wood types, pickups, hardware etc etc, finally puzzled together everything I liked/preferred and the sounds it produced in conjunction and then had a luthier make the perfect beast. I thought it was going to be excellent and it was everything I ever wanted, in playability, sound, look, ... But everyone that is serious about sound and playability does need to do extensive research and then ask a builder if it all would work when put together.
You might know a few of these records… Loath’s album which is one of the best and most interesting albums of the last 5 years to me. Love your work brother!!
Well, I think for certain sounds and styles, you might need heavier strings, instead of just light gauge strings. That guitar does sound awesome, if it is using light or lighter gauge strings, they sound big and heavy, maybe it's the pickups or guitar wood!
It boils down to basic physics. Sure, you can tune a Gibson SG down to Drop E if you want to use a .90 or .105 gauge string, but two things will happen. 1. You can’t pick very hard or else you’ll VERY quickly run into tuning stability issues. 2. The string having such a dense core will change the oscillation pattern when you strike the string, giving the string a much “looser” or “darker” character. Sure, it might work for doom/stoner genres, but it’s going to sound abysmal for anything that requires tight playing or relatively moderate tempos. Scale length changes the oscillation physics of the string. The longer the period length a string is stretched across, the shorter the oscillation pattern- increasing “tight” and “bright” tonalities.
I just realized it was a baritone guitar, maybe that lighter string thing makes more sense, but I really don't know, I just know that a tone is a tone, and if it's good you should use it, maybe it would be too hard to play though with too heavy of strings. I saw one video on RUclips about a baritone guitar that had extra heavy strings (.90 for the low E I think), and it sounded awesome!
The short version of the string mass guide is - the thicker you go the less top end you get and eventually will result in bridge pickup tones closer to that of the neck pickup. Outside of that, its not a rule. Just an understanding of physics, if the player doesn't like that sound and prefers that of thicker strings, the guitar can handle it and they are happy with what they make, then it doesn't matter.
You’re absolutely correct about everything you have mentioned but I also have found that a neck profile you prefer is of utmost importance too, this is the interface to your guitar.
assuming you were a teen in the early 2000's how did you think PRS were old guys guitars when all the nu-metal and post grunge guys were using them? lol I'm happy you corrected course but I feel like that association with PRS being 'dentists" guitars is definitely a more recent phenomenon. Great video like always!
Hey George, the stone top looks amazing! Is there a clear finish over it? Also wondering if there is a texture that can be felt or if it smooth... I don't want to rub my arm raw if I decide to go that route for a top!
I've been looking at the Devin Townsend pickups on Sweetwater and they list only having 2 voices. I'm trying to figure out what is different about your pickups or is there a different way they are installed to enable a third voice? Any help would be appreciated.
Interesting that you mentioned thinner strings sounding better, I also noticed that. Do you have any experience with Dingwall basses or other 37 inch basses? What gauge would you recomend for it's low B? I'm trying to run away from the monstrocities I'm currently using with a 35 inch scale. I plan on tuning it to B and A.
Same physics apply. But, if you are with in the ballpark of a few inches, it's usually just fine. Another factor of thinner strings is they give in and give up more and faster than thicc bois. But, are less harsh timbre wise and have more sparkle. Your hands play a huge role too. There are sights that you can calculate scale length and string gauge, it might be a good idea to test out many different guages and see what feels and sounds best for your hands/gear.
I found a single coil strat to be versatile in drop tunings obituary uses an single coil strat in drop C I own a single coil strat copy but no headstock tuner because I want to drop tune to drop C to play spiritual healing by Death riffs.
I want to buy a cheap Jackson Warrior and buy an Jackson Bass neck to build an Jackson Warrior bass in my own proportions because not a lot of lower end basses are metal enough for me alot of lower end basses are just super jazz basses just like how a lot of 7 to 9 string guitars are super strats.
@@GeorgeLeverG1 Any chance you can update the description with this info and the specs. Blind viewer here so while I could take in alot listening, I couldn't read the specs in the video. I don't think you specified what scale length you went with, just that it 28 to 30 is ideal. Also neck construction, (Bolt on, Set, NeckThrough)? Thanks. Personally I love 30 inch scale baritones, but they are hard to find and some are really Bass VI clones and only 21 frets and I prefer 24. Agile has some interesting designs in that department for sure.
Didn't know Nick Jonas could Djent
I know it's not Nick Jonas but Drake Bell (Drake & Josh) was on No Jumper talking about his experience meeting the guys from Meshuggah haha
That Sleep Token album is killer.
“Don’t buy...”
Yeah let me stop you right there
Been hearing a lot about Loathe lately. Also for me the used marketplace in my backwoods area in North Carolina has been a blessing. I’ve bought some amazing abandoned 7 string Ibanez RGs and Sterlings for under $250 that honestly are amazing workhorses.
So basicly... longer scale lenght and fishman fluence, i'm mind blown, i never saw that coming.
Bought a couple of guitars in the day, all decent, but never had everything I wanted. So I dove into wood types, pickups, hardware etc etc, finally puzzled together everything I liked/preferred and the sounds it produced in conjunction and then had a luthier make the perfect beast. I thought it was going to be excellent and it was everything I ever wanted, in playability, sound, look, ... But everyone that is serious about sound and playability does need to do extensive research and then ask a builder if it all would work when put together.
You might know a few of these records… Loath’s album which is one of the best and most interesting albums of the last 5 years to me. Love your work brother!!
I got my Aristides a few months ago and it is by far the best guitar I ever played
I may have missed it, but I don't think you ever said what you were tuned to in this example...
Pretty sure his guitar is in Drop E.
Well, I think for certain sounds and styles, you might need heavier strings, instead of just light gauge strings. That guitar does sound awesome, if it is using light or lighter gauge strings, they sound big and heavy, maybe it's the pickups or guitar wood!
It boils down to basic physics. Sure, you can tune a Gibson SG down to Drop E if you want to use a .90 or .105 gauge string, but two things will happen.
1. You can’t pick very hard or else you’ll VERY quickly run into tuning stability issues.
2. The string having such a dense core will change the oscillation pattern when you strike the string, giving the string a much “looser” or “darker” character. Sure, it might work for doom/stoner genres, but it’s going to sound abysmal for anything that requires tight playing or relatively moderate tempos.
Scale length changes the oscillation physics of the string. The longer the period length a string is stretched across, the shorter the oscillation pattern- increasing “tight” and “bright” tonalities.
I would like to see how you approach soundscaping with just guitars
I just realized it was a baritone guitar, maybe that lighter string thing makes more sense, but I really don't know, I just know that a tone is a tone, and if it's good you should use it, maybe it would be too hard to play though with too heavy of strings. I saw one video on RUclips about a baritone guitar that had extra heavy strings (.90 for the low E I think), and it sounded awesome!
The short version of the string mass guide is - the thicker you go the less top end you get and eventually will result in bridge pickup tones closer to that of the neck pickup. Outside of that, its not a rule. Just an understanding of physics, if the player doesn't like that sound and prefers that of thicker strings, the guitar can handle it and they are happy with what they make, then it doesn't matter.
You’re absolutely correct about everything you have mentioned but I also have found that a neck profile you prefer is of utmost importance too, this is the interface to your guitar.
I find pickups to be extremely important as well
Can someone please explain the signal chain to me? Do I really need a guitar DI box even when my interface has a hi-z input?
If George gets these kinds of results without a DI box, I think you're fine with the hi-Z
respect for the ktd print on the wall
assuming you were a teen in the early 2000's how did you think PRS were old guys guitars when all the nu-metal and post grunge guys were using them? lol I'm happy you corrected course but I feel like that association with PRS being 'dentists" guitars is definitely a more recent phenomenon. Great video like always!
It's called being ahead of the curve
What tuning are you playing at?
this rode wireless mic has a weird stereo shift effect to it sadly :(
Hey George, the stone top looks amazing! Is there a clear finish over it? Also wondering if there is a texture that can be felt or if it smooth... I don't want to rub my arm raw if I decide to go that route for a top!
No clear coat. There’s a slight texture but it doesn’t cause any issues. Who on earth is running their entire arm over the top of a guitar?!
@@GeorgeLeverG1lmao... im a veiny bastard and the first few inches of the edge gets me!
The only thing I don’t like about PRS is the Bird Inlays haha! Their humbuckers just seem to coil tap so much better than anyone else 🤷🏼♂️
Could you tell me what brand the guitar is?
Bit late but it's Caesar fyi
I've been looking at the Devin Townsend pickups on Sweetwater and they list only having 2 voices. I'm trying to figure out what is different about your pickups or is there a different way they are installed to enable a third voice? Any help would be appreciated.
I'm pretty sure that they're wired to have 2 humbucker modes, and can be wired to switch into single coil. That would be the 3 voices, I think.
Guitar specs at 08:15
Interesting that you mentioned thinner strings sounding better, I also noticed that. Do you have any experience with Dingwall basses or other 37 inch basses? What gauge would you recomend for it's low B? I'm trying to run away from the monstrocities I'm currently using with a 35 inch scale. I plan on tuning it to B and A.
Same physics apply. But, if you are with in the ballpark of a few inches, it's usually just fine. Another factor of thinner strings is they give in and give up more and faster than thicc bois. But, are less harsh timbre wise and have more sparkle. Your hands play a huge role too.
There are sights that you can calculate scale length and string gauge, it might be a good idea to test out many different guages and see what feels and sounds best for your hands/gear.
I found a single coil strat to be versatile in drop tunings obituary uses an single coil strat in drop C I own a single coil strat copy but no headstock tuner because I want to drop tune to drop C to play spiritual healing by Death riffs.
Bradley Hall's brother?
this sounds so good! whats the tuning? something like double drop e?
Yeah drop E
I just want a flat black 27 inch double rhoads Jackson 7 string with an EMG 57 and a floyd
I want to buy a cheap Jackson Warrior and buy an Jackson Bass neck to build an Jackson Warrior bass in my own proportions because not a lot of lower end basses are metal enough for me alot of lower end basses are just super jazz basses just like how a lot of 7 to 9 string guitars are super strats.
I love it minus the evertune
george is the coolest dude
Awesome video
Love stone top! Nice guitar! Congrats
Anyone know what string gauge is used on this? Maybe I missed it in the video...
80-14’s
@@GeorgeLeverG1 Thanks. Any particular brand / model?
@@millenliam d’addario :)
@@GeorgeLeverG1 Any chance you can update the description with this info and the specs. Blind viewer here so while I could take in alot listening, I couldn't read the specs in the video. I don't think you specified what scale length you went with, just that it 28 to 30 is ideal. Also neck construction, (Bolt on, Set, NeckThrough)? Thanks. Personally I love 30 inch scale baritones, but they are hard to find and some are really Bass VI clones and only 21 frets and I prefer 24. Agile has some interesting designs in that department for sure.
What about a Schecter Avenger Blackjack! Lol!
You know me too well...
5:50 well lee malia plays les pauls with an 80 gauge string so
I like Vegetables !
Ahem.....i received a custom Guitar as a gift from the dealer ...Is It the same? Eheh 😜😜😜🎸🤘🏻