@@bluephantomfoxy3372what is the new project?? Who is involved? What will it be called? I will be so sad when the iss comes down but I look forward to future endeavors
Ever since I read seveneves, the ISS has a special place in my heart and it makes me profoundly sad to know it’s coming down. We actively go out on nights where it’s passing by to see it and it’s going to be insane when we can’t do it anymore
I am re-reading seveneves right now! That is a great novel 😊 I wish they would push to a safe, stable orbit instead. Future generations should be able to visit it as a museum!
I think they should disassemble as much of it prior to coming back to earth. I think they should just push it out into Space or have it land on Mars instead. Not sure if this is possible.
@@museumofscience"has less sea life" Just because it's not researched as much as other spots, doesn't mean it "has less sea life." I guarantee you there is just as much or more than other spots around the globe.
Probably not. There is a wing of the Challenger on the bottom of the ocean and they decided not to recover it because they already knew what caused the accident. I heard there are a few scuba diving places they know the location and I was thinking about going but I talked to a few people and is not super deep but deep enough to be pitch black and by now most likely is covered with sediment and coral.
I have been a space buff since the days the Gemini missions. Manned space flight fascinates and inspires me. There has always been something to be excited about. Voyager and other unmanned flights and the Hubble telescope have taught us so much about the solar system and the universe. But people have not gone further that Low Earth Orbit since 1971. That is sad. I really want to see people return to the Moon. That would be very exciting. I hope I live to see it.
You could even use it as Scaffolding to build a deeper space station from, then when your done it will be the center piece, a piece of human ingenuity history and art.
I get that internally it's had some wear and tear but wouldn't the external parts still be in tact due to no oxidation etc in space? Can it not be refurbished?
I SAW the ISS three nights ago zooming across the night sky. It seems to me that it would be cheaper to build onto what is there and then send the old craft off or have it stationary as an emergency. But when your budget is unlimited? Think how well off we would be without war.
@@museumofscience you’re likely right. If the entire ISS needed to be replaced, I think I’d send up the replacement pieces first. Build it all up there and then cut loose the old unit. But NASA hasn’t asked for my opinion which is surprising. They usually call . It was a real hoot to see it going across the sky. And then realizing what it was too. I’m very smart
The spacecraft cemetery, known more formally as the South Pacific Ocean Uninhabited Area, is a region in the southern Pacific Ocean east of New Zealand, where spacecraft that have reached the end of their usefulness are routinely crashed. The place is known as Point Nemo. The US-based space agency has already said that the ISS would crash into Point Nemo, which is the graveyard for satellites and spaceships. It is formally known as the South Pacific Ocean(ic) Uninhabited Area. It is located in the southern Pacific Ocean east of New Zealand.Feb 21, 2024
It didn't... NASA isn't building a ship to deorbit the ISS... They have given the job to deorbit the ISS to SpaceX... By 2031 they will have the Starship or Heavy Booster to do the job...
We have an entire booming industry going on in the background built upon the things in our solar system. (Mostly mining) one of the things we are going to need is a more massive and robust satellite station. Positioned further from earth so it doesn’t have to move as fast “relatively” to the ISS. It will become a hub for operations and transport between the surface of mineable materials. Mostly gold and other minerals and metals. The ISS is ancient compared to current tech. And only supported general 0G lab work. Think about a station massive enough to house 1000+ people. And be self sustaining. Although we have about 50 years before that’s a whole reality.
@@edwardneuman6061 yes it is, it's easier just to send it to the most remote part of the world and unnecessary to send it all the way to the sun which is really far away, so far away that it takes light 8 whole minutes to travel from the sun to us. It's not like they can just put it on autopilot and hope it reaches the sun in 20 years. That would break the computers inside and put a risk on running into it on future missions when it is traveling to the sun, or misses it entirely.
It would take a large amount of fuel and energy to break out of Earth's orbit to set on course to the Sun, and then a long time for it to actually make it to the Sun.
We don't have the exact numbers offhand, but it would take a significant amount of energy to overcome the current orbit the ISS exists in to send it adrift into space.
Yes it will be bittersweet when it comes down. Hopefully a next generation space station will be forthcoming. I really hope I live to see people on the Moon again. Or maybe even on Mars! 🙂👍🏻☮️🚀🌙🪐
Sad. But we could build a new one for a fraction of the cost of the weapons for pointless and callous wars. What terrible priorities we have as a species. 😮
Are we going to see more hi-tech ISS in near future? How about build the whole thing on earth, more sophisticated, gravity resistance and then place into the orbit. But how???? Sound mission impossible, let us think impossible to possible.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔👍👍🇮🇳🇮🇳
Point Nemo is so remote that it has relatively little biology compared to the rest of the ocean, which is why NASA considers it the least bad option for disposing of orbital spacecraft.
i think it'd be cooler to put some rockets on it to send it deeper into space. maybe in a few hundred years someone could use it as a lifeboat when their ship gets attacked by aliens
It would take a tremendous amount of energy and fuel to push the ISS deeper into space, which is one of the reasons that the plan is to de-orbit the station.
Sounds like a new show on Discovery. Space Station repair DIY, where a bunch of upper middle class boomers buy old space stations to restore and rent out on AirBnB
I won't be a million lbs once it reaches surface level though. And the chances of it not landing in water are pretty slim. But I still think it should be made absolute
Good, they should have done it years ago. The old ISS hardware costs so much to maintain and we could use that money to build a bigger better space station with future compatible modules with cheaper upkeep.
Would take way more fuel. The ISS already naturally drifts towards earth due to gravity, so it would be cheaper and easier to just slam it into the ocean
As a Pacific islander and a Fijian man, I greatly thank you for just dumping trash and my ancestor 's ocean. Thank you godly appreciated. It's not like it's going to poison anything around the area
A modified Dragon spacecraft would probably be enough to deorbit the ISS. So it would require only a single Falcon 9 launch. Launching it into the Sun would require a transfer stage weighing at least 99 700 000 kg. That's 239 times heavier than the ISS itself and would require 5 697 Falcon 9 launches.
Why not coordinate with Moons & Suns Gravity to gently nudge it into a forever space voyage to the unknown like Voyagers I & II. They have sustained their path for iver 40 yrs.
I’m just curious, are they working on another space station like the ISS that will replace it when it comes down?
Yes, it is a much better version which is the main reason why ISS is going down
@@bluephantomfoxy3372what is the new project?? Who is involved? What will it be called? I will be so sad when the iss comes down but I look forward to future endeavors
There are plans for the Lunar Gateway station within the next decade.
No, there is not a replacement, there is no way to service the ISS anymore since the space shuttle went out of service and the Russians are ousted
@@peachlue6100 Axiom.
It would be great if they put cameras all over the ISS to film the de-orbit from onboard, and film it hitting the sea.
That would be interesting footage!
Ever since I read seveneves, the ISS has a special place in my heart and it makes me profoundly sad to know it’s coming down. We actively go out on nights where it’s passing by to see it and it’s going to be insane when we can’t do it anymore
I am re-reading seveneves right now! That is a great novel 😊
I wish they would push to a safe, stable orbit instead. Future generations should be able to visit it as a museum!
It would unfortunately take a great deal of fuel to move the ISS to a larger orbit, and some of the technology is getting a little old!
Mass littering by all nations.
I think they should disassemble as much of it prior to coming back to earth.
I think they should just push it out into Space or have it land on Mars instead. Not sure if this is possible.
NASA isn’t building the craft. SpaceX is. There is a key difference.
I'm imagining the conjectures of archeologists upon finding that area, some thousand years hence...
That's exactly what I was thinking when she mentioned the cemetery, lol.
I doubt theyll ever explore that area before the Earth burns up
@@kianjs you sound like quite the optimist 😺
You know Godzilla is gonna pissed if we keep littering his lawn.
A lot of good science up there. Makes me a little sad
The Lunar Gateway station will address similar research questions in the near future!
@museumofscience i doubt it will be build once the iss goes down it wil end human prencence in space
@@definitlynotbenlente7671 What about the Chinese space station tiangong? there are currently three ppl in that station
I wonder how/if the crashed space material affects the ocean life in that spot?
Yeah I hope they remove a lot of stuff before crashing it
Point Nemo is where a lot of derelict spacecraft wind up, in large part because it is so far from land, very deep, and has less sea life.
@@museumofscience interesting! Can you speak on whether or not they’ll be collecting materials from the ship before they bring it down?
@@museumofscience thank you for your reply! ☺️
@@museumofscience"has less sea life"
Just because it's not researched as much as other spots, doesn't mean it "has less sea life." I guarantee you there is just as much or more than other spots around the globe.
Would of been cooler if they could of disassembled it, and reconstructed the ISS at a museum. 😢
*would have* *could have*
is the correct way to phrase it
Nations that run it: Would if we could, but we can't so we shan't.
That's an interesting idea! It would be a little difficult to given the sheer size of the station.
A 1:1 replica maybe with some original parts that were on the ISS
@@matrixgaming3906 yea idk why I always type of. I think it's just how I physically say it.
If successful with reentry it will be the first, longest, joint nation mission from start to finish. Definitely history in the making.
It's absolutely a huge achievement in collaborative science!
Why not push it into further orbit and harvest its parts and resources in the future?
Will they retrieve it? Like could they turn around and market pieces? It would be so cool to say you owned a piece of the space station.
Probably not. There is a wing of the Challenger on the bottom of the ocean and they decided not to recover it because they already knew what caused the accident. I heard there are a few scuba diving places they know the location and I was thinking about going but I talked to a few people and is not super deep but deep enough to be pitch black and by now most likely is covered with sediment and coral.
Like A piece of ISS in the Olympic medal, oops, maybe you can't as LA 2028 is 3 years before ISS come down.
Imagine go diving there and finding a lot of valuable materials
Just a shallow water 13,000 ft (4000 m) dive!
@@museumofscience just hold your breath
honestly renting out a high quality submarine would probably be profitable considering how valuable the stuff on it is
I have been a space buff since the days the Gemini missions. Manned space flight fascinates and inspires me. There has always been something to be excited about. Voyager and other unmanned flights and the Hubble telescope have taught us so much about the solar system and the universe.
But people have not gone further that Low Earth Orbit since 1971. That is sad. I really want to see people return to the Moon. That would be very exciting. I hope I live to see it.
I wish we could keep it as a museum, but I looked at multiple sites and the safety concerns and costs have proven that almost impossible
Like every other project nasa made it lasted way longer than it should’ve had
That's gonna be a hell of a sight to see
I can imagine it being in a museum in 2033
RIP Canadarm
You could even use it as Scaffolding to build a deeper space station from, then when your done it will be the center piece, a piece of human ingenuity history and art.
I get that internally it's had some wear and tear but wouldn't the external parts still be in tact due to no oxidation etc in space? Can it not be refurbished?
Space actually rules. Heard the Mooon was dope too
*fish just chilling*
ISS comes crashing in
NASA can have rocket boosters and navigational devices put on the space station and have it come down in stages .
What has the radiation level been All those years?. And was it raising with age thru time?
What are they going to do with the ammonia that is in the space station? Will that burn up as well?
Ammonia is flammable and it is expected to completely burn up in the atmosphere.
The Spacecraft Cemetery is roughly located at “Point Nemo” the furthest point from any land on the entire planet.
All the precious material and engineering goes lost ...It would be nice if they put a big load of parachutes on, land it safely, and recycle it
I doubt we'll see anything like this again within our lifetime
Is there any danger of these crafts and satellites causing damage to ocean life because of the radiation they've absorbed while in space?
Point Nemo has relatively little ocean life, and water also acts as an effective shield against most forms of radiation.
Yup, point Nemo is the space craft cemetery.
With the incredible new tech we have i am glad we are building something new that can address issues of the old
The future Lunar Gateway will be able to support the Artemis mission and lunar exploration at large!
I SAW the ISS three nights ago zooming across the night sky. It seems to me that it would be cheaper to build onto what is there and then send the old craft off or have it stationary as an emergency. But when your budget is unlimited? Think how well off we would be without war.
Some of the electronics systems aboard are slightly too old to be compatible with newer components!
@@museumofscience you’re likely right. If the entire ISS needed to be replaced, I think I’d send up the replacement pieces first. Build it all up there and then cut loose the old unit. But NASA hasn’t asked for my opinion which is surprising. They usually call . It was a real hoot to see it going across the sky. And then realizing what it was too. I’m very smart
@@museumofscience I wish we’d end the wars and do all space exploration. But psychos run the planet
The spacecraft cemetery, known more formally as the South Pacific Ocean Uninhabited Area, is a region in the southern Pacific Ocean east of New Zealand, where spacecraft that have reached the end of their usefulness are routinely crashed. The place is known as Point Nemo. The US-based space agency has already said that the ISS would crash into Point Nemo, which is the graveyard for satellites and spaceships. It is formally known as the South Pacific Ocean(ic) Uninhabited Area. It is located in the southern Pacific Ocean east of New Zealand.Feb 21, 2024
Mir landed up by Tonga,not in the "graveyard"
What about the all debris that is already flying in space?
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If it crushes my roof i am gonna sue you
Some whale in the ocean watching this: Ooh no, not again!
It will be debris, just not unexpected.
Hope this ages well🙏
It didn't... NASA isn't building a ship to deorbit the ISS... They have given the job to deorbit the ISS to SpaceX... By 2031 they will have the Starship or Heavy Booster to do the job...
@@davidcadman4468 Oh!😃
I'm expecting some intrepid cruise lines to begin selling tickets for a "Deorbit party cruise" to go sit out there and watch it live
Poor 2031 fishes
Could they leave the useful parts in orbit to integrate into a future project?
Old, but not obsolete.
Ships that are cleaned up, toxic materials removed, then sunk make great artificial reefs. I’m sure something similar will be done with the ISS.
That's an interesting idea! Artificial reefs are amazing for biodiversity, but Point Nemo is so far from land it tends to have less sea life.
@@museumofscience Plus it may be too deep for a reef?
2.5 miles is a tad deep, yes!
@@museumofscience Ah, I didn’t realize how deep it was. 🪼🦀🐳
@@museumofscience This was such a cool video. I can’t wait to see the new space station! It such have all the mod coms!
They always dump things into the Pacific Ocean. Why don't they dump it into their own backyard
We have an entire booming industry going on in the background built upon the things in our solar system. (Mostly mining) one of the things we are going to need is a more massive and robust satellite station. Positioned further from earth so it doesn’t have to move as fast “relatively” to the ISS. It will become a hub for operations and transport between the surface of mineable materials. Mostly gold and other minerals and metals. The ISS is ancient compared to current tech. And only supported general 0G lab work.
Think about a station massive enough to house 1000+ people. And be self sustaining.
Although we have about 50 years before that’s a whole reality.
How can i get to Point Nemo? I need another Flux Capacitor for Doc to put in my used DeLorean
oh and btw this place is called point Nemo
Why not just send it to the Sun?
Too far away, too hard, if we are off it might come back around orbit and cause problems
@twinengine12 It was hard in the 60's. It's not hard today with modern supercomputers.
@@edwardneuman6061 yes it is, it's easier just to send it to the most remote part of the world and unnecessary to send it all the way to the sun which is really far away, so far away that it takes light 8 whole minutes to travel from the sun to us. It's not like they can just put it on autopilot and hope it reaches the sun in 20 years. That would break the computers inside and put a risk on running into it on future missions when it is traveling to the sun, or misses it entirely.
It would take a large amount of fuel and energy to break out of Earth's orbit to set on course to the Sun, and then a long time for it to actually make it to the Sun.
@@edwardneuman6061
Oh yes we'll magically have more fuel because the computers are better.
interesting thought...
Point Nemo. You should have mentioned this.
They can use blasters to push it away from earth for it to chase JWST. I smell materialism in the ISS crashing
Why not attach a propulsion unit and launch it into deep space? Just curious..
Not worth it. There would be a need for a lot of energy to do such a thing
It would take a significant amount of energy, and consequently a significant amount of fuel, for the ISS to escape Earth's orbit.
How much energy would it take to push it out of orbit towards space?
We don't have the exact numbers offhand, but it would take a significant amount of energy to overcome the current orbit the ISS exists in to send it adrift into space.
3 212 m/s of ∆v, or 9 582 000 kg of fuel. 23 times more mass than the ISS
The ISS must not be deorbited. It is too valuable a resource & must be recycled on orbit.
Yes it will be bittersweet when it comes down. Hopefully a next generation space station will be forthcoming. I really hope I live to see people on the Moon again. Or maybe even on Mars! 🙂👍🏻☮️🚀🌙🪐
The Lunar Gateway will hopefully fulfill the need for a space station in lunar orbit!
Push it out into space, or pullute the ocean. Well this is a no brainer.
Pushing it further into space would require a lot of fuel. It's just not a viable option.
It would take a significant amount of energy to move the ISS out of orbit, and a large amount of time for the ISS to exit the solar system.
The location is better known as "Point Nemo".
I thought it was gonna be 2027 not 2031
Sad. But we could build a new one for a fraction of the cost of the weapons for pointless and callous wars.
What terrible priorities we have as a species. 😮
Its called point nemo
Are we going to see more hi-tech ISS in near future? How about build the whole thing on earth, more sophisticated, gravity resistance and then place into the orbit. But how???? Sound mission impossible, let us think impossible to possible.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔👍👍🇮🇳🇮🇳
What is all that space trash doing to the Ocean?
Point Nemo is so remote that it has relatively little biology compared to the rest of the ocean, which is why NASA considers it the least bad option for disposing of orbital spacecraft.
@@museumofscience Why not just crash it into the Sahara desert? Then at least the debris wouldn't be in the ocean.
Why didn't they do that with Sky lab ??
Skylab was not intentionally de-orbited, but its orbit decayed and it disintegrated in the atmosphere on July 11, 1979.
i would just push it out of orbit maybe it lands on the moon and helps start a moon base
Will Australia get to see it burning up like a Sungrazer?
No no no no no. My parents spent a lot of money on that. They need to just fix the one they have or they can do without
The fish confederation highly objects to this
What about Point Nemo? Isn't that a satellite graveyard
That's exactly right, and where they're planning on de-orbiting the ISS to!
So, we just toss them into the ocean?
i think it'd be cooler to put some rockets on it to send it deeper into space. maybe in a few hundred years someone could use it as a lifeboat when their ship gets attacked by aliens
It would take a tremendous amount of energy and fuel to push the ISS deeper into space, which is one of the reasons that the plan is to de-orbit the station.
@@museumofscience probly true but i can dream lol
Oh RIP ISS
So much great science has been done with the ISS!
Repair it and turn it into a low orbit bnb
Sounds like a new show on Discovery. Space Station repair DIY, where a bunch of upper middle class boomers buy old space stations to restore and rent out on AirBnB
The last spacestation I saw over Johnstown Pa. Looking for a dot was I Wrong it was massive.
It's surprisingly large when you're stargazing!
@@museumofscience I was not clear it was day time and it was on it's death plunge went into ocean shortly.
If they do replace it with a new one dude they gotta ask spacex to make one for them. Nasa's builds are aesthetically unpleasant.
They wont replace it
😊i i saw it being assembled
That's a pretty cool memory!
Oh, so the two American astronauts do have a way to get back to earth?
Gosh, I hope they get it right, don't need more space junks.😅
Not the ISS 😭😭
It's been in service for a long time, already! There are plans for the Lunar Gateway station to succeed the ISS.
@@museumofscience less go! New ISS?
Yes! The Lunar Gateway is a planned multinational space station intended to be in orbit near the moon.
@@museumofscience makes it easier to mine helium-3
@museumofscience i doubt it will be build the buget alocated for the iss wil just go to the militairy instead
I won't be a million lbs once it reaches surface level though. And the chances of it not landing in water are pretty slim. But I still think it should be made absolute
NASA is building what No it’s spacex
Littering
Pro ably shouldn't wait to the last second to do that
Point nemo??
The furthest place from land in the Pacific Ocean!
What if it fails
Good, they should have done it years ago. The old ISS hardware costs so much to maintain and we could use that money to build a bigger better space station with future compatible modules with cheaper upkeep.
The Lunar Gateway is one such avenue for a future space station!
its only 409metric tons
Why don't they push it out of orbit so that it drifts into outer space?
Worst idea ever
Would take way more fuel. The ISS already naturally drifts towards earth due to gravity, so it would be cheaper and easier to just slam it into the ocean
Moving the ISS out of orbit to drift would take significantly more energy, and it would take a long time for it to exit the local solar system.
Why
Space X got the job to destroy it
Why they didn't design it to come down to earth without destroying it ,and we can put it in the museum and enjoy a journery inside of it :(
The ISS was designed to be in space!
As a Pacific islander and a Fijian man, I greatly thank you for just dumping trash and my ancestor 's ocean. Thank you godly appreciated. It's not like it's going to poison anything around the area
It's not yours or your ancestors ocean. It belongs to no one.
Where tf else you wanna put it?? Risk crashing it into someone's house!?
Was not 2030 ?????????????????
Have Elon make the stuff so it can reland isntead of crashing and we can reuse materials 😊
Your just not going to impress me till you can levitate a submarine into orbit . Jack I believe you robbed me of Capt Kirk .!.
Point Nemo?
That's the destination!
Can't understand why they just don't point it towards the sun and send it on its final trip.
It would take significantly more energy escaping Earth's orbit, and a lot of time drifting in space to reach the Sun!
A modified Dragon spacecraft would probably be enough to deorbit the ISS. So it would require only a single Falcon 9 launch. Launching it into the Sun would require a transfer stage weighing at least 99 700 000 kg. That's 239 times heavier than the ISS itself and would require 5 697 Falcon 9 launches.
Make it last 10 trillion years? 😂
Why not coordinate with Moons & Suns Gravity to gently nudge it into a forever space voyage to the unknown like Voyagers I & II. They have sustained their path for iver 40 yrs.
The ISS is in low earth orbit and it would be too difficult to overcome Earth's gravitational pull.