Oi, you'll see whem they start releasing the Simarchs, totally different from the Primarchs. I already have pre ordered my Dorgal Rorn and my Gouboute Rilliman. It's totally different you see? Inb4 WH40K copied AoS threads plague the Internets.
I was on the fence but the box and the system sold me. This feels like a less dicey(for lack of better term) necromunda with a sprinkling of gorechosen. Plus i love the small gaming footprint. Tired of need big tables or table extenders to play these games.
The size is awesome. I agree about how you don't need a special table. We got a chance to play it this weekend. Each game was less than an hour. It was alternate activation, which I like. Models and terrain were great. The random agenda and twist that you pull at the beginning was cool too.
I cannot agree more I really wanted to get into kill team but the amount of dice rolling and the complexity of the rules really threw me, my friends and my brother off this however looks perfect with less dice rolling and more emphasis on Tactics and gameplay. It's what Kill Team should've been in my opinion.
Thats what these boxes are meant for. Its GW fucking with warlord and wizkids. Without them having to openly declare war. Expect bards and wizzards next hahahhaa
Got to play it yesterday. I'm a 40k player and never really touch AoS but this is by far the easiest to learn, fastest to play and is genuinely fun to play game GW have possibly every released. I was pleasantly surprised by this game.
I'd love to get into either AoS or Warcry with my wife - we love the theme, the look of the models, we both are big into painting miniatures - but it's very daunting to see sprues like this - in the games we play heavily such as DnD, Mice and Mystics, Gloomhaven they are pre-assembled, this just looks like it will take as much time to glue up as it will be to paint and base (the part we don't mind). With a lot of the more RPG style miniature games we can at least play a scenario or two to decide "Ok, I like this faction/person I'm playing as. I'll go ahead and send the time painting them nicely". Or even: "Meh, this class isn't as fun he'll be on the back burner as we play though with our main guys." I can just see it now my wife waiting on me going "Can we paint yet!? When will they be ready!?"--"A week from now, then spend the next two weeks painting. We might be able to start playing this game next month." And I get it - seriously, I love taking my time painting certain models for weeks or more, and we all have those models that are truthfully never going to be done that we will fidget with forever. But to invest into a starter version of a game (and it's a sizable investment, think of if the new player wanting to start with the starter set but still needs paint/brushes/supplies/tools on top of practicing skills of painting on other models) then weeks later even be able to try the game for the first time to see if they even like; it seems daunting. The problem I see with Games Workshop games is that even starter kits are aimed for people who have been in the Games Workshop family of games for multiple iterations that can pick it up as a supplement for there collection they already have. I've tried so hard to even have my friends into Games Workshop games invite me over to watch them set up and play and explain to me what's going on and how to get into it - I've asked the hobby store workers, even the officially licensed "Games Workshop" outlet stores to explain the most simplistic way of getting the toes wet for this epic adventure and they start bombarding you with jargon that makes sense to their loyal fan base but not to people wanting to get into it for the first time. "Yea man, just grab these three books and then grab you a "hero/leader" model for your squad and only start with one or two squads, grab some Start Collecting bundles, and grab their lore books to understand if they are for you - Unless you can find Heresy area stuff then grab anything you can find. But don't worry about it now because 9th is coming soon so everything is going to be obsolete when the new Codex drops."...that is so many words that make perfectly good sense to anyone who currently understands this world but coming from something like Gloomhaven I just stand there and blink going "The hell does any of that mean? So buy some things but I don't know if I want these things because there's lots of other cool looking things, I can learn about these things from the hundreds of books but there isn't a format of the books that I should start with - just grab a book and it will tell me more about one of the factions I might or might not care about? And if I want to play this faction I need to buy another book that tells me the rules of this faction? But wait these books expire?! I need new rule books when new editions come out...is this like an Apple phone where yearly they expect me just to buy a new one?!" So yeah - it's massively overwhelming - I just end up sitting here watching at least 11 different painting/warhammer channels going: "Yeah looks awesome." and being content with the spectator element of it all.
I think GW is releasing way too many different games, but among them there is a gem here and there. Shadespire and Adeptus Titanicus are two of them, and this actually looks to be a third!
Yeah, I loved this from the initiative roll. It is fast, brutal and furious, no overly tactical, cautious sly playing in this game, you aim for the objective and batter your way to victory. The card system is a brilliant idea for making a level playing field. I got the core box, the first scenery expansion, my two favourite extra warbands, (birds and snakes), the annual, the nighthaunt box and I will be buying the Mausoleum set when restrictions are no longer needed as well as the beautiful new Khainite Shadows band. lol (When I go all in, I mean all in.)
I guess they'll be out later. All of the warbands made for this game are chaos so that's why they probably didn't release any other chaos warbands for now.
Saved myself a ton of money and time by simply waiting a year on all of new releases from GW and seeing what is still being played by my local meta. Answer is Frostgrave.
@@jakea3950 Basically none of the GW minor releases have not survived in my local meta. Frostgrave, a game by Joseph A. McCullough, released by Osprey games. it seems to remains a pretty constant favorite that we keep coming back to. Uncle Atom has spoken about Frostgrave on his channel. Point of fact is the new Warcry would do a treat for Frostgrave as well, which is model company agnostic.
@@manga3040 No there is one rulebook. there are a number of additional campaign books that add scenarios though. one other, called maze of malcor adds some additional rules. all the additions are optional. check out the frostgrave group on fb. the author often comments on questions and rule clarifications.
You are most likely correct about the quality effect of coloration of plastic, they are almost certainly the same underlying plastics, but certain colors require much more or less of the color additives which can have some minor effect on the quality of the plastics. Red in particular is always a troublesome color.
8:30 the board from the Kill Team starter set also only folded in half. I suspect the boards in the Ravaged Lands expansions will follow the KT format and fold into eights :)
Kinda wished they had used the Underworlds dice, stats, and combat mechanics to make what is essentially an open-board terrain-involved skirmish version of Underworlds. Easy to do.
Easy to do but then you need those special dice and people would have moaned that it wasn’t based on D6s so they can’t win either way. I think the combat definitely has shades of Underworlds in there and is nice and simple
Jody B he was rude but the 3D printer comments are like telling someone struggling with an application to get Linux to fix the problem. It *can* be obnoxious.
"If you step on them"....Not a lot of plastic mini would survive that...unless it is a Reaper Bones fig. And damn you Uncle Atom, I do not want to get into this! I got enough with KT but this is exactly what I wanted...damn you and GW too. ;)
Looking forward to getting started with this. Necromunda always looked too crunchy for my son and I to pick up, whereas this looks a lot more accessible.
Does Atom have any content on going to a game shop solo for the first time to play? I'm not at that point yet, trying to figure out which exact game... Sigmar, D&D, Infinity, 40k. Right now I'm just at the painting minis stage :)
Internet is also your friend :) some shops dont always run the same games and such. As an example I play 40k at a pretty normal lgs and infinity I play at this table top gaming cafe that specializes in board games.
Yah it's harder than I thought to start out. Lots of games, similar sounding, have to sort through my local games shop to see who plays what. I think I'll just show up one day and see what happens. I just went down to my local shop today and the woman working said something like "Yeah I don't know what they play now, I don't work on those days. They were making terrain the other day" So just bad timing I think.
I had a chance to play some games of Warcry this weekend, and we had so much fun. Spent Friday night assembling everything. The game itself plays pretty quickly. The terrain matters depending on situation. The models are fantastic, but there are some slender parts that may break off if you're not careful.
Likewise for my chaos warriors (with no marauders), daemons, beastmen, clanrats, Empire, high elves, wood elves, lizardmen, and Dogs of War. Think I'll stick with skirmish. Or One Page's Age of Fantasy or Songs of Blades and Heroes.
Personally I’m excited that standard AoS models aren’t the base. That means any sort of elites or commander expansions will be hopefully more thought out and won’t feel like they’re just baiting you into a full scale army like kill team has done.
I'm assuming it will be like the Kill Team Starter, and in 6 months you wont be able to buy it anymore? As popular as Kill Team is, it's getting hard to find any of the game specific box sets for it only a year later. It makes it hard for guys like me who dont have a lot of time to build and paint and dont want a huge pile of shame. This does look really good and right up my alley, so I guess I better jump on it quick!
I think you're possibly right. Anyone with their eye on this will probably do well not to hang about for too long, even if they don't plan to build/paint it up for a while.
Granberg Agreed. They can produce all the stat cards with symbols on them and then only have to worry about translating the rulebook which tells you what the symbols mean instead of translating EVERYTHING.
I‘m already playing some AoS and I‘m totally into Warhammer Underworlds since Shadespire came out, but still I‘m waiting for Warcry! I guess I like the quick and dirty approach, plus I‘m a dad and beer and pretzel games, that can be played on a weekday night are the closest I get to a huge battle nowadays.
Good video, Uncle Atom! Really love the box and seeing as the box I wanted for KT disappeared (ad-mech and GSC), definitely going to see about picking this one up. The terrain and beasties look fantastic, as well as the Untamed Beasts. Not a big Iron Golems fan though even they're pretty nice.
Excellent video as always. You mentioned that Warcry is a one-stop shop sort of game. Once you assemble everything, punch out the tokens and all that good stuff, how good would they all be repacked in that same big box? I am assuming you'd only need to open the box, lay down the cardboard battlefield, add on the terrain pieces and then deploy the warbands - all from the same big box.
Have always liked the idea of war bands; with all of the terrain it is worth considering. building them up into a separate force to add to a larger model count game. If I choose. Thank you for sharing.
I am sad there is no Seraphon support right out of the gate with Warcry :( I feel like some people who's factions are not represented in the game (like Beasts of Chaos) might just end up forgetting about Warcry.
True. But at the same time i think that the warbands stats can be "stolen" and be represented with the unlucky races. That is said without the rulebook on my hands ofc. It is probably not acepted in a competition but after all if you are just visually replacing the model and/or names with other... Who really cares? Idk like the untammed beast seem easy to be replaced by beastmen. The Corvus and/or the snake ones might be played with skaven minis.. And so on. Although some extra rules for everyone would be better, in the end if you are playing with a friend it should not matter too much. At least i will have my "non morathi bullshit" dark elves playing probably as the snake guys (poison and such).. Just pick up a warband that works like your own minis, and fill the roles. Maybe you can go with the lizards replacing the golems. Saurs here and there. A big kroxi as the ogor...
Wesley Chartrand no one has patience anymore. This just launched. All it takes is a little imagination and some agreement between players and boom you have skaven rules
We have the same taste on warbands! Iron Golems looking probably the best, with bird men and beasts being close behind. The cypher guys probably come bottom of the list for me, all look kinda samey.
I am just getting into 40k & Kill Team but am also curious about AoS. Could this serve as a decent introduction? I know nothing about the fantasy setting, the lore or the rules of AoS. Also could the terrain be used in 40k/Kill Team as well?
Ed Mccormick This will introduce you to a part of the AoS setting, in particular the Chaos faction. If you want a better intro to the setting, the AoS core book is better. The scenery is perfectly viable for 40k.
Lore, yes. Only thing you need to know is Archaon is the big bad general of the Chaos forces. AoS rules, no. Models will probably be given rules to be played in AoS, but Warcry as a game is radically different from playing a game of AoS. Terrain will work for other war games just fine, but it looks as if this terrain (and other AoS terrain sets) may be desired for Warcry.
Pretty much all GW Terrain is made for their 'slightly more than 28mm' scale, including this one. So it will work fine for nearly all GW mini games. (Except apocalypse probably). As for an introduction into AoS, it seems to have very different rules and stats, unlike kill team which had only small deviations with mostly identical core mechanics to 40k. However, you might well like it as it's own game, it does share the AoS lore, and if you are anything like most wargamers i know you will probably have a good bunch of models for various factions for this around which you can upscale forAoS if you ever want to.
Thanks for the info. Glad to hear they're keeping to scale. I'm rather terrain poor at the moment so the opportunity to mix things up is very welcome.If it shares the setting and lore then that will tell me all I need to know about AoS. I'm more of a lore guy than a rules guy, the mechanics can be simple and smooth or clunky and complicated as long as the world I'm playing in is fun
I got back into the hobby right after this set went out of print and was impossible to order online (no stationery shop nearby unfortunately) and the prices got doubled from the resellers.... this is one of those things i regret a lot.
Thanks for the video. The information provided allows me to decide wether or not I should invest in this. Love the models in the box and the terrain looks fantastic. I'm not sold on the mechanics yet, probably have to see a few battle reports to understand it better.
I've had that GameFor app since the GalaxyS7 was new and recently re-opened it a few months ago. There was very little going on, even in a major metropolitan area (Los Angeles/Orange County/Riverside County CA) I hope people outside this region get more out of it than I have.
Nope. Uncle atom stopped heavily talking about it and so it's not getting the free promotion to help bring people to it's platform. It might help if he added a 10 second message at the end of his videos ....pa chow
"You’ll be able to pre-order your Warcry Starter Set this weekend" from the community website, not sure when the additionnal Warbands will be available though
I get that from the colored plastic too. It feels just a little weaker, and it definitely doesn't take paint as well. Since Kill Team I've been actively avoiding it.
Hey Uncle Atom! Really love your channel. I'm super interested in Warcry, got out of Age of Sigmar but I think Warcry will get me back in. Was wondering about the play mat that comes with the box. Is it cardstock and does it fold? Thanks!
you covered this in another video I recently watched - but again: why the heck, they don't sell that big "all you need to play" box anymore?!?!? As a beginner it is so much easier to get into a new game when you just can buy the complete box, ready to play. Now I have to buy terrain separately, minis, rules, cards....all separately..... WHY?! (I secretly know: because MONEY) but still.....WHY?!
Not sure on this 'new entry' boxes… I think the best way to get into the WH hobby is to buy minis that you like and then play with the free play rule of W40k or AoS. I find these easier and immediate than KT or this… maybe is only my impression… :)
Looks amazing! Rules seam interesting. AoS is my favorite game and I have plenty of terrain but I need that stuff to add to it. Wish I could use the Godsworn Hunt mini's as a Warband and some Bloodreavers in this game.
Kill Team's concept but better executed. Having tried and failed to get into Kill Team. This is what it should have been from day 1. Finally a REAL skirmish game with not so much dice spam and rolling as Kill Team. That said I still own the KT Manual as I don't want to give up on it yet.
I'm keen to buy this boxset and trying out the new chaos warbands (really into the two from the box + the snake guys not yet up for order) but im really hoping they expand the rules to include sylvaneth.
The "iconography" thing, isn't game design specifically, it's actually to make translation cheaper. That symbol means the same thing in all languages, unlike words.
Crap, I was hoping to use Nightvault minis in this but they don't allow some of them according to their site. Anyone know if they will allow them in the future?
@@sleepysasquatchgames Thanks for the info. I had thought it would be more customizable and had ideas to make a "death watch" style Stormcast warband with more variation than just crossbow dudes.
Isn't this more the Necromunda of Age of Sigmar? KillTeam of AoS existed from the beginning in all the General's Handbooks or even seperate as AoS "Skirmish"...
I don't see this as a decent "place to start", I've been at this for a little while and the War Cry box is a bit intimidating to build/paint up. I remember the video (pachow) when you point out that all you NEED to play AoS is a box of models each and the 4 page rules. THATS the intro to the game people want/need.
I agree that it can be intimidating but as a starting point with everything that comes in this box it's great. 2 warbands, terrain, mat, rulebook, dice etc it's awesome. Especially as most people who jump in have friends who already know how tabletop games work.
I love the models that Games Workshop comes out with....I just usually hate the gameplay. For me, I prefer the simpler mechanics of stuff like Star Wars Legion where I roll to hit and they roll to defend. I tried to play Kill Team but I can't remember all the different things I have to roll for.
You should get on well with this game then as there’s no To Wound or Save Roll. It’s just a single hit roll, so much less rolling than in other GW games.
I would like to see you do a video on inexpensive warbands for the factions with only squads (you know, like the one you did for Kill Team). Love the videos. Hope you're not working too hard at Gen Con.
I’m not shooting DSLR, I’m shooting mirrorless Micro Four Thirds. The main camera on me is using a 25mm f/1.7 and the second camera (on the product) is a 12-35mm f/2.8 but I forget where exactly I had it zoomed. Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much, i have a Canon EOS 80D just using the default 18-50mm lens, been wondering about more suitable lens. Thank you very much, you're set up is fantastic and you can really see the effort put into it!
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Everything you need to play.... except a friend to play it with :(
You’re not alone on that one!
That hit too close to home
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That is why I got myself 2 sons 😉
That’s why I developed a split personality!
Unfortunately, he’s “That Guy”
"Strangely, there is a lot of skulls." Sarcasm is strong with us today.
I'm glad that Stormcast is a shooty faction, just as space marines supposed to be.
TRIGGERED!
@@originalblob don't be triggered 😂😂
Game needs more shooty factions 😁
@@originalblob Shots fired!
You meant to say Sigmarines.
Oi, you'll see whem they start releasing the Simarchs, totally different from the Primarchs. I already have pre ordered my Dorgal Rorn and my Gouboute Rilliman. It's totally different you see?
Inb4 WH40K copied AoS threads plague the Internets.
Pretty sure I'm buying this for the terrain and rulebook. The minis are a bonus.
True story
I was on the fence but the box and the system sold me. This feels like a less dicey(for lack of better term) necromunda with a sprinkling of gorechosen. Plus i love the small gaming footprint. Tired of need big tables or table extenders to play these games.
What is/are Gorechosen?
Look it up. There are gameplays and breakdown on youtube.
The size is awesome. I agree about how you don't need a special table. We got a chance to play it this weekend. Each game was less than an hour. It was alternate activation, which I like. Models and terrain were great. The random agenda and twist that you pull at the beginning was cool too.
I cannot agree more I really wanted to get into kill team but the amount of dice rolling and the complexity of the rules really threw me, my friends and my brother off this however looks perfect with less dice rolling and more emphasis on Tactics and gameplay. It's what Kill Team should've been in my opinion.
Sad thing is, I'll buy this, assemble it, paint it, and use the vast majority of its contents for Frostgrave haha
I thought the same for Kings of War.
Thats what these boxes are meant for. Its GW fucking with warlord and wizkids. Without them having to openly declare war. Expect bards and wizzards next hahahhaa
Buying this for d&d
Not sad. Smart good sir. That's why these boxes are awesome!
I use them for that too. And DnD. You can never have too many minis/Scenery. I also play Warcry though 😅 (but I don't play Chaos)
Got to play it yesterday. I'm a 40k player and never really touch AoS but this is by far the easiest to learn, fastest to play and is genuinely fun to play game GW have possibly every released. I was pleasantly surprised by this game.
Completely agree on the red plastic being softer than the grey.
I believe it's also faster
I hope they never use the yellow plastic from Speed Freeks ever again...
@@blacktemplar5970 Yes, but it only stays faster if it remains unpainted....lol
I'd love to get into either AoS or Warcry with my wife - we love the theme, the look of the models, we both are big into painting miniatures - but it's very daunting to see sprues like this - in the games we play heavily such as DnD, Mice and Mystics, Gloomhaven they are pre-assembled, this just looks like it will take as much time to glue up as it will be to paint and base (the part we don't mind). With a lot of the more RPG style miniature games we can at least play a scenario or two to decide "Ok, I like this faction/person I'm playing as. I'll go ahead and send the time painting them nicely". Or even: "Meh, this class isn't as fun he'll be on the back burner as we play though with our main guys." I can just see it now my wife waiting on me going "Can we paint yet!? When will they be ready!?"--"A week from now, then spend the next two weeks painting. We might be able to start playing this game next month." And I get it - seriously, I love taking my time painting certain models for weeks or more, and we all have those models that are truthfully never going to be done that we will fidget with forever. But to invest into a starter version of a game (and it's a sizable investment, think of if the new player wanting to start with the starter set but still needs paint/brushes/supplies/tools on top of practicing skills of painting on other models) then weeks later even be able to try the game for the first time to see if they even like; it seems daunting. The problem I see with Games Workshop games is that even starter kits are aimed for people who have been in the Games Workshop family of games for multiple iterations that can pick it up as a supplement for there collection they already have. I've tried so hard to even have my friends into Games Workshop games invite me over to watch them set up and play and explain to me what's going on and how to get into it - I've asked the hobby store workers, even the officially licensed "Games Workshop" outlet stores to explain the most simplistic way of getting the toes wet for this epic adventure and they start bombarding you with jargon that makes sense to their loyal fan base but not to people wanting to get into it for the first time. "Yea man, just grab these three books and then grab you a "hero/leader" model for your squad and only start with one or two squads, grab some Start Collecting bundles, and grab their lore books to understand if they are for you - Unless you can find Heresy area stuff then grab anything you can find. But don't worry about it now because 9th is coming soon so everything is going to be obsolete when the new Codex drops."...that is so many words that make perfectly good sense to anyone who currently understands this world but coming from something like Gloomhaven I just stand there and blink going "The hell does any of that mean? So buy some things but I don't know if I want these things because there's lots of other cool looking things, I can learn about these things from the hundreds of books but there isn't a format of the books that I should start with - just grab a book and it will tell me more about one of the factions I might or might not care about? And if I want to play this faction I need to buy another book that tells me the rules of this faction? But wait these books expire?! I need new rule books when new editions come out...is this like an Apple phone where yearly they expect me just to buy a new one?!"
So yeah - it's massively overwhelming - I just end up sitting here watching at least 11 different painting/warhammer channels going: "Yeah looks awesome." and being content with the spectator element of it all.
I think GW is releasing way too many different games, but among them there is a gem here and there. Shadespire and Adeptus Titanicus are two of them, and this actually looks to be a third!
make 100 and you will remember the 10 good. i think that approach is better than make 3 good and 0 bad
they have to. its there product
Blackstone Fortress is awesome.
Yeah, I loved this from the initiative roll. It is fast, brutal and furious, no overly tactical, cautious sly playing in this game, you aim for the objective and batter your way to victory. The card system is a brilliant idea for making a level playing field. I got the core box, the first scenery expansion, my two favourite extra warbands, (birds and snakes), the annual, the nighthaunt box and I will be buying the Mausoleum set when restrictions are no longer needed as well as the beautiful new Khainite Shadows band. lol
(When I go all in, I mean all in.)
Wow, just look at all that terrain. That got me interested. Thanks for the video!
Wish list for boxed game.
No coloured plastic. ✅
Lots of terrain. ✅
New models. ✅
Dice with only one fun emblem ✅
Hans Gruber 30 yes I don’t like the coloured plastic with the starter sets. This is great coz it don’t have coloured plastic
There's a giant bell but no sign of Skaven? For shame.
Don't forget Nurgle.
I guess they'll be out later. All of the warbands made for this game are chaos so that's why they probably didn't release any other chaos warbands for now.
@@Malygon I hope they release cards for the wanderers because skirmish type battles are kind of their thing
I totally agree on the colored plastic feeling softer!
No idea if it is, it just gives of that impression lol! Gray all the Way!
Saved myself a ton of money and time by simply waiting a year on all of new releases from GW and seeing what is still being played by my local meta. Answer is Frostgrave.
What's that?
@@jakea3950 Basically none of the GW minor releases have not survived in my local meta. Frostgrave, a game by Joseph A. McCullough, released by Osprey games. it seems to remains a pretty constant favorite that we keep coming back to. Uncle Atom has spoken about Frostgrave on his channel. Point of fact is the new Warcry would do a treat for Frostgrave as well, which is model company agnostic.
Are there lots of rulebooks needed for frostgrave?
@@manga3040 No there is one rulebook. there are a number of additional campaign books that add scenarios though. one other, called maze of malcor adds some additional rules. all the additions are optional. check out the frostgrave group on fb. the author often comments on questions and rule clarifications.
@@kalfoxx7749 Awesome! Thanks man.
I love you Uncle Atom.
But my wallet thinks you’re the devil.
agreed
Agreed
What is it you really desire?
Thanks! Great video. Picking mine up tomorrow at my local FLGS!
You are most likely correct about the quality effect of coloration of plastic, they are almost certainly the same underlying plastics, but certain colors require much more or less of the color additives which can have some minor effect on the quality of the plastics. Red in particular is always a troublesome color.
8:30 the board from the Kill Team starter set also only folded in half. I suspect the boards in the Ravaged Lands expansions will follow the KT format and fold into eights :)
Thanks for the peek into the box Atom!
Willem Dafoe: Symbolism! The word is SYMBOLISM!
My mind always quotes that film when someone says it wrong
Thanks for this. I was unplugged from GW's news, but this is a better way for me to hear about it - which is why I subscribe!
Kinda wished they had used the Underworlds dice, stats, and combat mechanics to make what is essentially an open-board terrain-involved skirmish version of Underworlds. Easy to do.
Easy to do but then you need those special dice and people would have moaned that it wasn’t based on D6s so they can’t win either way.
I think the combat definitely has shades of Underworlds in there and is nice and simple
I love the idea of more terrain, GW NEeds to offer. More terrain
Check out GW ForgeWorld for some pretty cool terrain albeit a bit pricey.
I'll be honest, I dont like it in boxes. It skyrockets the price of the box set and you can get a lot more at reasonable prices from 3rd parties.
Oh I didn't know this was the 3 d printer comment section, I thought it was the mini one. Long hair dont care.
Jody B he was rude but the 3D printer comments are like telling someone struggling with an application to get Linux to fix the problem. It *can* be obnoxious.
Hmm... "everything needed to play" AFTER model assembly and painting... two years later!
So yeah, everything needed to play.
"If you step on them"....Not a lot of plastic mini would survive that...unless it is a Reaper Bones fig. And damn you Uncle Atom, I do not want to get into this! I got enough with KT but this is exactly what I wanted...damn you and GW too. ;)
Looking forward to getting started with this. Necromunda always looked too crunchy for my son and I to pick up, whereas this looks a lot more accessible.
For sure. Check out Blackstone Fortress! It is awesome! And you and your son can play it together. It's a great coop experience!
Necromunda is a bit numbers heavy. My son is 6 I play a watered down version with him. But I think this would be great
Does Atom have any content on going to a game shop solo for the first time to play? I'm not at that point yet, trying to figure out which exact game... Sigmar, D&D, Infinity, 40k. Right now I'm just at the painting minis stage :)
Internet is also your friend :) some shops dont always run the same games and such. As an example I play 40k at a pretty normal lgs and infinity I play at this table top gaming cafe that specializes in board games.
Yah it's harder than I thought to start out. Lots of games, similar sounding, have to sort through my local games shop to see who plays what. I think I'll just show up one day and see what happens. I just went down to my local shop today and the woman working said something like "Yeah I don't know what they play now, I don't work on those days. They were making terrain the other day" So just bad timing I think.
If your getting it make sure you get plastic glue, I got it but couldn't build because i didnt have glue
I had a chance to play some games of Warcry this weekend, and we had so much fun. Spent Friday night assembling everything.
The game itself plays pretty quickly. The terrain matters depending on situation. The models are fantastic, but there are some slender parts that may break off if you're not careful.
If you play Age of Sigmar you already got some of models probably.
Looks and sees only Skinks....
Same with my clanrats... :(
I feel your pain - Beastclaw Raiders/Ogors.
Likewise for my chaos warriors (with no marauders), daemons, beastmen, clanrats, Empire, high elves, wood elves, lizardmen, and Dogs of War. Think I'll stick with skirmish. Or One Page's Age of Fantasy or Songs of Blades and Heroes.
*sad Sylvaneth and Wanderer noises*
Personally I’m excited that standard AoS models aren’t the base. That means any sort of elites or commander expansions will be hopefully more thought out and won’t feel like they’re just baiting you into a full scale army like kill team has done.
If I remember correctly, the Kill Team Starter set board was similar and didn't fold down as much as the ones that came with the expansions.
I'm assuming it will be like the Kill Team Starter, and in 6 months you wont be able to buy it anymore? As popular as Kill Team is, it's getting hard to find any of the game specific box sets for it only a year later. It makes it hard for guys like me who dont have a lot of time to build and paint and dont want a huge pile of shame. This does look really good and right up my alley, so I guess I better jump on it quick!
I think you're possibly right. Anyone with their eye on this will probably do well not to hang about for too long, even if they don't plan to build/paint it up for a while.
radarcannon I am having the same issue with KT, all the teams are either discontinued or have to pay a lot more money 💰
@@mouseketeery that's what I'm going to do, but itll probably be winter before I get to building it!
I think with the icon system, it makes the game language independent.
Granberg Agreed. They can produce all the stat cards with symbols on them and then only have to worry about translating the rulebook which tells you what the symbols mean instead of translating EVERYTHING.
That packaging and core book are beautiful. GW’s packaging team deserve a lot of credit.
I’m interested because it’s not “dicey” and crunchy like 40k. These smaller skirmish games are quickly taking my attention away from massive armies
I've always loved them, I like narrative campaigns over set pieces battles, and it's easier with Skirmish games.
Great review of the stuff for the game. “I believe the word you are looking for is symbolism, what is the symbolism...” - boondocks saints
The folding size is the same as the kill team starter. Their scenario packs fold an additional time
Great video and an excellent run down. Thanks!
I'm so glad it's not only chaos! Waiting for Skaven rules!
I‘m already playing some AoS and I‘m totally into Warhammer Underworlds since Shadespire came out, but still I‘m waiting for Warcry! I guess I like the quick and dirty approach, plus I‘m a dad and beer and pretzel games, that can be played on a weekday night are the closest I get to a huge battle nowadays.
Good video, Uncle Atom! Really love the box and seeing as the box I wanted for KT disappeared (ad-mech and GSC), definitely going to see about picking this one up. The terrain and beasties look fantastic, as well as the Untamed Beasts. Not a big Iron Golems fan though even they're pretty nice.
The Kill Team core set came with a board folded that big, the kill zones came smaller.
How do the creatures work? And who controls them? Also, where could I find a box set with them other than the starter set?
Excellent video as always. You mentioned that Warcry is a one-stop shop sort of game. Once you assemble everything, punch out the tokens and all that good stuff, how good would they all be repacked in that same big box? I am assuming you'd only need to open the box, lay down the cardboard battlefield, add on the terrain pieces and then deploy the warbands - all from the same big box.
That's likely nearly impossible. Best case scenario is to have everything in the box except the terrain.
Excellent review and unboxing, thanks Uncle Atom!
Have always liked the idea of war bands; with all of the terrain it is worth considering. building them up into a separate force to add to a larger model count game. If I choose. Thank you for sharing.
Very excited for this.
I am sad there is no Seraphon support right out of the gate with Warcry :( I feel like some people who's factions are not represented in the game (like Beasts of Chaos) might just end up forgetting about Warcry.
True. But at the same time i think that the warbands stats can be "stolen" and be represented with the unlucky races. That is said without the rulebook on my hands ofc. It is probably not acepted in a competition but after all if you are just visually replacing the model and/or names with other... Who really cares? Idk like the untammed beast seem easy to be replaced by beastmen. The Corvus and/or the snake ones might be played with skaven minis.. And so on. Although some extra rules for everyone would be better, in the end if you are playing with a friend it should not matter too much.
At least i will have my "non morathi bullshit" dark elves playing probably as the snake guys (poison and such)..
Just pick up a warband that works like your own minis, and fill the roles. Maybe you can go with the lizards replacing the golems. Saurs here and there. A big kroxi as the ogor...
Maybe they'll update some Seraphon models before they add to warcry. There is some rumour images that look Seraphon
Wesley Chartrand no one has patience anymore. This just launched. All it takes is a little imagination and some agreement between players and boom you have skaven rules
Good to know its not just chaos warbands in this game. I may pick it up now. The models look good but Ive just always been more of an Order player.
We have the same taste on warbands! Iron Golems looking probably the best, with bird men and beasts being close behind. The cypher guys probably come bottom of the list for me, all look kinda samey.
Stu R you can’t tell me the unmade look “Samey”
@@matthewbennett1972 huh dragging up some old comments I see... Never said anything about the unmade :)
Guess I’m late to the party.
They've also released rules for each Warband to be fielded in Age of Sigmar. Chaos, of course, but some of them are brutal
I'm glad I am not the only one that thinks the colored (non-grey) plastic is softer.
I am just getting into 40k & Kill Team but am also curious about AoS. Could this serve as a decent introduction? I know nothing about the fantasy setting, the lore or the rules of AoS. Also could the terrain be used in 40k/Kill Team as well?
Ed Mccormick This will introduce you to a part of the AoS setting, in particular the Chaos faction. If you want a better intro to the setting, the AoS core book is better. The scenery is perfectly viable for 40k.
Lore, yes. Only thing you need to know is Archaon is the big bad general of the Chaos forces.
AoS rules, no. Models will probably be given rules to be played in AoS, but Warcry as a game is radically different from playing a game of AoS.
Terrain will work for other war games just fine, but it looks as if this terrain (and other AoS terrain sets) may be desired for Warcry.
Sounds good. Thanks for the great answers. I think I'm going to have to make room on my shelf for another game
Pretty much all GW Terrain is made for their 'slightly more than 28mm' scale, including this one. So it will work fine for nearly all GW mini games. (Except apocalypse probably).
As for an introduction into AoS, it seems to have very different rules and stats, unlike kill team which had only small deviations with mostly identical core mechanics to 40k. However, you might well like it as it's own game, it does share the AoS lore, and if you are anything like most wargamers i know you will probably have a good bunch of models for various factions for this around which you can upscale forAoS if you ever want to.
Thanks for the info. Glad to hear they're keeping to scale. I'm rather terrain poor at the moment so the opportunity to mix things up is very welcome.If it shares the setting and lore then that will tell me all I need to know about AoS. I'm more of a lore guy than a rules guy, the mechanics can be simple and smooth or clunky and complicated as long as the world I'm playing in is fun
I do love how much you talk with your hands 😂😂😂
I got back into the hobby right after this set went out of print and was impossible to order online (no stationery shop nearby unfortunately) and the prices got doubled from the resellers.... this is one of those things i regret a lot.
Thanks for the video. The information provided allows me to decide wether or not I should invest in this. Love the models in the box and the terrain looks fantastic. I'm not sold on the mechanics yet, probably have to see a few battle reports to understand it better.
Was so stoked when I saw this video
Straight up, just buying this for the terrain haha
Why not wait for it to be released separately.
A Bridgeburner send me your Minis
I will listen to the VOICES as I hug my tattered Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Rulebook
I've had that GameFor app since the GalaxyS7 was new and recently re-opened it a few months ago. There was very little going on, even in a major metropolitan area (Los Angeles/Orange County/Riverside County CA) I hope people outside this region get more out of it than I have.
Nope. Uncle atom stopped heavily talking about it and so it's not getting the free promotion to help bring people to it's platform. It might help if he added a 10 second message at the end of his videos ....pa chow
Could you make a video of playing this game for us? I love your explanations and would deffo watch a let's play from you.
One benefit of Iconography in board games is its easier to be language dependent. I don’t know if that’s something they were thinking about but maybe.
I'm interested in these Corvus dudes, is the release date already out for these?!
"You’ll be able to pre-order your Warcry Starter Set this weekend" from the community website, not sure when the additionnal Warbands will be available though
@@mezawockee5050 thx for the info, appreciated :D
The Corvus are available to preorder today and come out on 3rd August
I get that from the colored plastic too. It feels just a little weaker, and it definitely doesn't take paint as well. Since Kill Team I've been actively avoiding it.
According to your 90/10 rule I now need to model for 200 mins.
Challenge accepted :D
Michael Peila I mean, painting for over 3 hours isn’t that long. Or maybe I’m just a slow painter.
@@coltonm3888 it's the finding the time that is the challenge
Yeah, that’s fair
You know, I’ve been wanting an excuse to get some Idoneth Deepkin. This could be it.
Hey Uncle Atom! Really love your channel. I'm super interested in Warcry, got out of Age of Sigmar but I think Warcry will get me back in. Was wondering about the play mat that comes with the box. Is it cardstock and does it fold? Thanks!
@@sleepysasquatchgames Thanks, he kinda says a little about it but just wanted to be sure.
Gonna need a shitload of contrast paints for all that grey plastic !
Great vid & informative. I've been looking forward to this. My only worry is price & if the models are snap fit & any chance converting the models?
I don't think any of it is easy-build, but the poses are very dynamic so I doubt there's much choice in poseability without surgery and greenstuff.
What rulebook contains rules for AoS Miniatures for Warcry ?
So, I found it on GW website
I played my first game yesterday and today I have bought the starter set and the crazy bird dudes!
you covered this in another video I recently watched - but again: why the heck, they don't sell that big "all you need to play" box anymore?!?!? As a beginner it is so much easier to get into a new game when you just can buy the complete box, ready to play.
Now I have to buy terrain separately, minis, rules, cards....all separately..... WHY?!
(I secretly know: because MONEY)
but still.....WHY?!
Does anyone know if they made a product that’s just the terrain? Name?
Can i buy those two warbands separately? I dont need all the terrain and rules
They'll probably release them separately in a few months time - they usually do.
Yeah, the terrain looks awesome!
Not sure on this 'new entry' boxes… I think the best way to get into the WH hobby is to buy minis that you like and then play with the free play rule of W40k or AoS. I find these easier and immediate than KT or this… maybe is only my impression… :)
Looks amazing! Rules seam interesting. AoS is my favorite game and I have plenty of terrain but I need that stuff to add to it. Wish I could use the Godsworn Hunt mini's as a Warband and some Bloodreavers in this game.
Been hoping for an age of sigmar game like this
Kill Team's concept but better executed. Having tried and failed to get into Kill Team. This is what it should have been from day 1. Finally a REAL skirmish game with not so much dice spam and rolling as Kill Team. That said I still own the KT Manual as I don't want to give up on it yet.
Fun terrain I could use for Zombicide hehe
I'm keen to buy this boxset and trying out the new chaos warbands (really into the two from the box + the snake guys not yet up for order) but im really hoping they expand the rules to include sylvaneth.
Demo the game first.
The "iconography" thing, isn't game design specifically, it's actually to make translation cheaper. That symbol means the same thing in all languages, unlike words.
Thanks for the quick review.
What!? ... No Skaven!? The great Horned Rat is not amused.
Crap, I was hoping to use Nightvault minis in this but they don't allow some of them according to their site. Anyone know if they will allow them in the future?
@@sleepysasquatchgames Thanks for the info. I had thought it would be more customizable and had ideas to make a "death watch" style Stormcast warband with more variation than just crossbow dudes.
I like the limited availability of models. I think it will balance it more.
Isn't this more the Necromunda of Age of Sigmar? KillTeam of AoS existed from the beginning in all the General's Handbooks or even seperate as AoS "Skirmish"...
I agree, this has more in common with Necromunda than kill team
AoS skirmish is a pretty shit , under-developed game system. This is far better.
Is this starter no longer sold?
it's kind of strange that the stormcast options are basically just vanguard. i dont see liberators, sequitors, etc
it looks exaclty what I was looking for... lets see the final price of the box
$170 if I'm not mistaken
I don't see this as a decent "place to start", I've been at this for a little while and the War Cry box is a bit intimidating to build/paint up.
I remember the video (pachow) when you point out that all you NEED to play AoS is a box of models each and the 4 page rules. THATS the intro to the game people want/need.
I agree that it can be intimidating but as a starting point with everything that comes in this box it's great. 2 warbands, terrain, mat, rulebook, dice etc it's awesome. Especially as most people who jump in have friends who already know how tabletop games work.
@@zyearwood4587 I agree with that, it's for pre existing players with experience already rather than all new to gaming.
I would agree that the coloured spruee have less detail than the grey
Im wondering if theses modles will be usable in AOS and the Everchosen is getting a roster boast as Slaves of darkness and the chaos need some love.
I think they’ve said you will be able to use these models in AoS for Slaves to Darkness (probably a free pdf or rules in White Dwarf)
I love the models that Games Workshop comes out with....I just usually hate the gameplay. For me, I prefer the simpler mechanics of stuff like Star Wars Legion where I roll to hit and they roll to defend. I tried to play Kill Team but I can't remember all the different things I have to roll for.
Roll to hit, roll to wound and then your opponent rolls to save. Only one extra layer!
Albany isn’t there also a flesh wound roll? Also, remembering the to hits on each roll...I’m pretty dumb...
You should get on well with this game then as there’s no To Wound or Save Roll. It’s just a single hit roll, so much less rolling than in other GW games.
I would like to see you do a video on inexpensive warbands for the factions with only squads (you know, like the one you did for Kill Team). Love the videos. Hope you're not working too hard at Gen Con.
I’m so excited! A little worried my obituary will read “died from complications of being buried under a pile of unpainted plastic” 😂
Emily Yaceczko my life goal is to reduce that mountain.
However, that implies that I need to stop buying... so don’t see that happening in the future
Is there a path to use Underworld figures in Warcry?
Not that I know of, no. Thanks for watching!
Great Video!,
May i ask what camera lens you are using there on your DSLR?
I’m not shooting DSLR, I’m shooting mirrorless Micro Four Thirds. The main camera on me is using a 25mm f/1.7 and the second camera (on the product) is a 12-35mm f/2.8 but I forget where exactly I had it zoomed. Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much, i have a Canon EOS 80D just using the default 18-50mm lens, been wondering about more suitable lens. Thank you very much, you're set up is fantastic and you can really see the effort put into it!