17 years later and I can't believe Ron Dennis doesn't have sleepless nights over this, the best car, and 2 of the best drivers (of all time), and still he managed to lose both championships.
Absolutely. As amazing as it wouldve been for hamilton to be champion in his debut season, it wouldve been even more tragic if raikonnen, a driver with the talent to be a multi-year world champion, to have never won a title.
@@nivozen but now Ferrari would be the one to waste multi-year WDC talents, they didn't win titles with Alonso, Vettel, and Leclerc, possibly Hamilton later.
@@913egok lol, Ferrari sabotaged Kimi... they made updates on the car without telling him and then didn't listen to his feedback at all.. Ferrari made deal with santanders for Alonso and so on, google it.. Kimi would have easily won the title.
Felipe and Kimi absolutely aced that start by backing Lewis up into Alonso. Also never realised how close Rosberg and Heidfeld got, imagine if they took each other out!
Cheated in the first turn Schumacher style, dangerous driving, should’ve got penalty for that, no title, boo hoo he won’t be crying if he lost another title
Back then it was the 6th title for Ferrari in 8 years but now it's been the last title for 15 years. Crazy when you think about it. Back then no one would have assumed that Kimi would be the last Ferrari champion for a long time
I honestly prefer Crofty's commentary here than Allen's, Allen was pretty salty Hamilton lost while Crofty did his best to put his biases aside, also in Allen's commentary, Brundle had to remind him that it was Hamilton that was more luckier than Kimi that year lol
@@Xzibitfreek Refueling aside in 1990 there was no refueling and a quick stop was around 6-7 seconds. The teams simply adapted to the changing race conditions. Have you seen France 1990 for example? Pit boxes close to each other, the pit crew wore freaking shirts and shorts and there was NO speed limit. Absolute madlads
Only few more years and Kimi will be the longest reigning Ferrari Champion ever....it took 21 years before Michael Schumacher became first Ferrari Champion after Jody Scheckter....now Kimi has been last champion for 15 years. Honestly as long as Ferrari F1 team is lead by italians and their bad decision making, I think Kimi has good chance to break Scheckter's record
@@klockenberg2299 I think Ferrari are fools if they think that Hamilton can solve all their problems. But to be fair they are atm atleast clearly the 2nd best team. However I dont see any change coming to the pecking order before 2026 and even then if Red Bull can keep their two key people in the team (Max and Newey), its likely that they would keep winning even when regulations change. Ofc its possible though that when Red Bull changes from Honda engines to Ford engines that it might actually hurt them somewhat depending on the power and reliability of Ford power units
The comments section is so split. Kimi deserves this WDC. Lewis error cost him early in the race after that Mclaren had a bad strat. So odd. Every champion deserves his title. Period
Also, he finished 7th, not 8th. Besides, every race in the season counts just as much as the last one. There were many races where you could say "if Kimi finished higher there he would have won more clearly". Hamilton had arguably more luck than Kimi that year, so him getting some weird reliability issues in this race just evened out the luck just enough for Kimi to win.
Kimi was always good enough to be a champion, so I was glad he got that one. His TV personality left a bit to be desired but he was, after all, the Iceman.
He only won one but he's good enough to win multiple like Mika and Seb. Kimi's the talent generation of 00s with Alonso like Mika with Michael in 90s and Seb with Lewis in 10s.
He got jumped in the pitstops fairly. And finished a pathetic 4th in the WDC. Kimi was leagues better - despite having to adapt to new tyres and new cars.
Still one of the most complete rookie ever, so there's not much for him to improve even if this costs him greatly. Raikkonen and Verstappen by contrast were one of the most underdeveloped rookies even if talented so they took few years to peak from rookie (2003 for Raikkonen, 2018 for Verstappen).
I remember watch this race back then, and I always remember the ferrari team radio 'ok it's all over... Hamilton seventh, by my calculations we win the championship by one point' And in the present day, and I never thought that this moment will be the last time I saw Ferrari driver become the world champion
Of the 3 championships LH has cost at the death, 2007 hurts the most. How on earth do you lose the title from 17 points up with 20 points left. That's like losing a tennis match from 2 sets and 5-0 up in the third set.
@@revillanevado3246Of course it is debatable. He's superior to both during the tyre war and 2007. It's not even debatable. Kimi at his peak during the tyre war is the fastest driver since Ayrton Senna, while Alonso was losing to Jarno Trulli in 2004. Please. Don't joke here.
@@INFEDnoX Deluded comment. Michael retired because he didn't want to face Kimi. Kimi won the title in 2007 where MSC lost it in 2006 with a faster car. If anything, Michael is lucky Kimi went to McLaren, instead of accepting the Ferrari contract in 2003. He would have won 2003, 2004 and 2006 at Ferrari easily. In the tyre war Kimi was far quicker than MSC. Only because Kimi had to adapt to a new tyre in a new team did Massa survive that stint.
@@ciaronsmith4995 The deluded one has always been you lmao. Kimi is the least adaptable "top" driver in modern F1 history and you think he would have beaten MSC in MSC's own team, with a car designed around his driving style? Schumacher would have eaten him alive. Lost to Massa after a year of "adapting" in 2008, embarrassed by Alonso, obliterated by Vettel. He's lucky he won 2007 because it always gives his fans a convenient excuse as to why he was so poor every year after 2007, including his stint at Lotus, where he was flattered by a crash-prone rookie teammate. There's levels to F1 and he's not as fast as you give him credit for.
If Maclaren had kept Hamilton on his original 2 stop strategy he would have made up the places he needed to become world champion. A pitstop in Interlagos costs you approx` 28 seconds meaning that a 3 stop strategy is going to be disastrous unless you luck-in to a safety car (which, sadly for LH, didn`t occur).
Coulthard es el Webber del inicio del 2000 Un tío don nadie, que si no tiene una mala arrancada, se la pasa chocando (así como su última carrera) El tío se cree mejor que Schumacher, y jamás hizo nada bueno en la Fórmula 1 Pilotos buenos que no tienen título, pon q Juan Pablo Montoya, ese si que era un pilotazo, pon a Robert Kubica Pero Coulthard es un chiste con un ego por las nubes
@@rlb4403 mmm, try again. Kimi just picked up the pieces,... rightfully yes, he was really fast the second half. But "slaughtered/rookie" are overstatements. Anyway, if you feel happy...
@@rlb4403 Alonso mange to take this to the last race fighting Kimi LH and his own team the gave him no suport from Canada on. In no way did he bottle this. The bottle job was LH with the most reliable car and full backing of the team. He threw this championship away with this poor showing and his crash in the pit lane at China. Still the only drive I have seen since 1976 crash twice in the pits. The other time was in Canada where he disobeyed the red light at the end of the pits and crashed in to Kimis stopped Ferrari.
Alonso and Hamilton would have been a great combination but unfortunately Mclearn had Ron Dennis running the team and he could not handle the drivers just like he couldn't handle Prost or Senna. Then to top it off after Hamilton's 1st win in Canada he through all the teams backing on the rookie freezing Alonso out with no support. The result was the feud blowing up for all to see in Hungary with Dennis showing exactly where his support was after the Q3 incident . Ron got what he deserved for only backing the rookie and taking sides.
@@thearsenalmisfit2414 This is the alternative version of history, normally brought out by the Alonso sycophants to justify him not being able to beat a rookie. Hamilton was in the wrong to ignore the team order in Hungary, the fact that team order existed at all is proof that your delusion that Alonso getting no support is just that, a delusion. And instead of letting it get sorted out by the team, Alonso took it into his own hands, not only making Lewis miss his qualifying lap, but getting sent to the back of the grid himself. Yeah I think that would piss off any team boss. And then to top all that off, Alonso attempts to blackmail Ron Dennis over spy gate, those are the real reasons Alonso's relationship went downhill. And guess what, he does that in every team he's in, alienates them until they're sick of the sight of him, phenomenal driver and phenomenal talent with nothing between him and Hamilton (in the rookie season at least), but he's his own worst enemy and manages to turn every team against him.
@@ceirwan Well that’s completely wrong. In Hungary, it was not a team order it was simply how McLaren functioned. They had alternative Races to get their drivers an extra lap, meaning before Hungary Lewis would get an extra lap. So please do your research before commenting
@@ceirwan Pulling his physician by his neck in-front of the Tv and media and then complaining to FIA over Hungary which would demote Alonso to 6th (even though it was Lewis fault initially) wasn’t very civilised, was it? I am sorry but you are also victim of how everything is portrayed in media , you need to look deeply mate. The cause of the rift between Alonso and Dennis was Monaco, in which Fernando completely ahead was chased by Lewis. He was preserving the car and taking care of tyres and it is a fact that you don’t get overtaken in Monaco unless there’s an exception. But Lewis started chasing him, and in the words of Priestly “Almost collected Alonso by running onto his rear” so the chances were huge that they would both get DNF. So McLaren told Lewis to back off and stop the stupidity. Now Lewis cried in front of media that there’s clear no. 1 and 2. Ron Dennis, instead of talking to Lewis and giving him some advice rather said to Alonso that this win actually belonged to Lewis😂. Imagine being a 2 times world champion taking care of your car and the team principal say this to you. Then there was a war between Alonso and McLaren (Lewis &Dennis)
everyone talks about Glock in 2008, but not many mention Heidfeld & Rosberg somehow refusing to take each other out and thus keeping Lewis at least 1 point behind the champonship. Lewis does not have a lot of luck with Nicks, Nicos & Nickys.
Wow crofty wasent a blatant Screaming hamilton supporter back then, this commentary is actually better than the constant theorising and shouting we see now
F1s title decider went from a beautiful flowing track with passionate fans and unpredictable weather to the worst track ever made with stands filled with oil barons and b list celebs in a bone dry desert.
🤨HIGHLIGHTS !!!! As a McLaren fan (at the time) it was the worst🤮managed season in Grand Prix history.... BOTH, ONE POINT behind the World Champ winner.
It was a disaster of a season for the team which was lucky to be able to even put it's cars on the grid after the Spygate affair. The team should have got a 2 year ban but the thought of 2 seasons of Ferrari precieved dominance was to much for the Fia who thought it would cost the sport fans. Ron Dennis never recovered from this season and it proved again he could not manage 2 top drivers at the same time. He learned nothing from Prost and Senna.
@@orangecatmusic8441 No reason to think it was manipulated IMO. If I remember correctly, Lewis hit the pitlane speed limiter by accident, that's why he was running so slow for a bit. I'm a Hamilton fan but you have to admit the rookie pressure got to him in the last two races of 2007, any other experienced driver at the time would have cruised to win the championship in his position.
As a Kimi fan, I do feel a tad sorry for you. No one thought Lewis would be that quick out of the box, no one could foresee spygate and no one could foresee Alonso's relationship with Dennis breaking down like it did. I really wanted Kimi to win the WDC with McLaren, but 2007 was one of the strangest years ever
@@peacemission305 on the podium the last 4 races, consistently beating at least one of the Ferrari and Redbull's. But please go on, don't let facts get in the way on your salty bias... 😄
You can’t take it away from Lewis. Even back then , Ron Dennis saw he had so much raw talent with fire and hunger in his ability to drive Karts. If he had kept his political views to himself instead of using them as a platform, then he wouldn’t be disliked as much as he is now. Although….. There is an argument to say, that a worker is only as good as the tools he is given. Both Mercedes cars are extremely poor since the design rule change with ground effects being bought in this season. Hamilton has already said that he is focusing on next seasons car. He also said it’s the worst car he has driven since karting. Mmmmm, just as well you wasn’t at McLaren when they had Honda as the engine supplier then Lewis. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Yes, Hamilton is something special for having the best luck of the modern era As Alonso said in the last race, the dude can only win if he starts from the pole position
David Croft was actually a better, more calmer commentator back then. Before his cringey "lights out and away we go" catchphrase (stolen from Ben Edwards).
lol 2007 was the final championship win of ferrari i can't believe in 15 years they are not able to win just at least 1 championship the last championship win of mercedes was in 2020 just imagine mercedes not win at least 1 championship until 2035? i only know williams and mclaren who has not won a championship since 1997 for williams and 2008 for mclaren but they never got a great car since 20 years for williams and 10 years for mclaren so it's understandable but ferrari it's not because they got a fast car in 2008,2010,2012,2017,2018,2022 and in 6 tries they never won at least 1 wow i can't believe it😭
Exactly!!! It would have been nice to see Ferrari as a strong team when Kimi was with Alonso Can you imagine the battles??? Too bad that time was bad for Ferrari
Dude, dont talk about terrible luck when it comes to Lewis...for most of his career he has had the luck on his side, unlike with Kimi for example who could have become 3x WDC if Mclaren-Mercedes hadnt constantly failed him. Even in 2007 Kimi had 2 DNFs that happened because Ferrari's reliability issues, while Mclaren (ironically) finally enjoyed pretty much bullet proof reliabilty. Even this Gearbox issue didnt leave Hamilton without points. There wasnt a single Mclaren DNF that year that would have been because poor reliability. Also in 2008 Massa would have won the championship had he had better luck on his side. The only times I think luck wasnt on Lewis side was in 2016 and perhaps in 2021. I could give those championships to Lewis, so 8 championships max. And even when you have 7 championships, you cant talk about the guy having bad luck. Hamilton has been lucky so many times with others having trouble, lucky most of the time when Safety Car had come to the track to get free pitstops and perhaps the most lucky of all how/when his tyre failed in 2020 British GP and still managed to win that race because it happened in the last lap
Back when a small mistake makes you lose big time to climb back positions. Today's racing is complete opposite, makes it way too easy like a game, drs must be removed respectively.
Tell me about it. These days a driver only has to sprain his index finger and they bring out the safety car, but only if it’s good for Mercedes and redbull. It’s funny how it’s always the lapped cats or back markers magically parking their cars in an unsafe spot on the track.
@@giuseppepennisi8699 It's because F1 has gone from sport to complete business since 2010. They (liberty and F1) decide who they want to see victorious.
@@archvile1313 I’m not disagreeing with you at all and I think it actually goes back to Schumacher days . Just the amount of Saftey cars at the precise moments needed to place whoever back to the top of the championship fight or whoever they decide to be victorious is highly suspicious . There’s sport betting mafia behind it all for sure.
@@giuseppepennisi8699 In the V10 era there was some strange decisions taken but not as much as later happened, and I mean later as in 2010+ (ever since the 2nd V8 regs which started in 2009+) many things changed. It's like media, society, fame, money and etc... all impacted the concept of F1. To put it into a further example, if we look at the list of champions of the past, we see many many different names varying between year after year unlike since 2010. Vettel then Hamilton and now most probably Verstappen (for many years) and to me that's not racing, that's a complete business and contracts deals to whom they chose to be triumph for a dedicated time. Yes Schumacher did win consecutive years too but the follow ups were not repeated identically as well therefore Michael wasn't inside the circle in my opinion, he just opened the path and everyone enjoyed it because many like Ferrari and the glorious V10 sounds of what a true Formula car must be. By the way there's way more SC today than there was during the V10 and early V8 eras.
They tied on points and Hamilton had full team support while Alonso got no support after Canada at all. Rons reaction to the Hungary quali incident proves that fact beyond a shadow of a doubt.
@@juanpescanova5910 You can't tie in F1 you either beat him or not. If for instance Lewis couldn't pass Glock you can't seriously tell me Massa and Hamilton both tied for the title.
Spygate had already happened mid season. The team was kicked out of the constructors championships and given a huge fine. For many it did not go far enough as the were calls for a 2 year ban.
Dude they had already been punished by getting disqualified from WCC and also given 100 million dollar fine I think it was. Mclaren drivers were free to race for the championship however as it was not their fault. Ofc there was lot of speculation that this was " a set up" to make it look championship was still open to the end, but all it would have taken for either Mclaren driver to win the championship was for Kimi to take 2 points less. And it would have looked way worse then if they had disqualified either Hamilton or Alonso from championship afterwards. So no, Mclaren had already been punished and their drivers just threw it away in the end. Alonso first by crashing out in wet conditions in Fuji and Hamilton/the team threwing it away in China by pitting too late with worn out tyres
17 years later and I can't believe Ron Dennis doesn't have sleepless nights over this, the best car, and 2 of the best drivers (of all time), and still he managed to lose both championships.
Kimi fully deserved to win the Title in 2007 after McLaren had let him down in 2003 and 2005.
Absolutely. As amazing as it wouldve been for hamilton to be champion in his debut season, it wouldve been even more tragic if raikonnen, a driver with the talent to be a multi-year world champion, to have never won a title.
@@nivozen but now Ferrari would be the one to waste multi-year WDC talents, they didn't win titles with Alonso, Vettel, and Leclerc, possibly Hamilton later.
Massa and Raikonen was a killer duo!
my favorite ferrari duo
massa was a buffoon
Too bad Ferrari sabotaged Kimi in 2008, wuda been an easy title for Kimi.
@@sadsadasdsadasdsadas Nah Kimi himself was awful in 2008. Ferrari messed up too but that cost Massa more than it cost Kimi.
@@913egok lol, Ferrari sabotaged Kimi... they made updates on the car without telling him and then didn't listen to his feedback at all.. Ferrari made deal with santanders for Alonso and so on, google it.. Kimi would have easily won the title.
Felipe and Kimi absolutely aced that start by backing Lewis up into Alonso. Also never realised how close Rosberg and Heidfeld got, imagine if they took each other out!
Dirty driving from ferrari. That was intentional brake check from massa at the senna s.
@@peeturpain9379 And you have the telemetry to back that up?
@@Alexander_Snowden do you have eyes?
@@peeturpain9379 Do u have brains u piece of turd?
@@peeturpain9379 Brits still coping
Jesus, Ferrari with good strategies and good reliability comparing to title rival - is this paralel universe?
In the real world that year was the final year of Ferrari having good strategy 😅
It can be,,😂
Ferrari had terrible reliability until Magny Cours. One of the reasons why Ferrari didn't dominate the season and why it was close.
@@F4aXxZ not only that but reason why McLaren was even winning was because of Spygate
Yeah, indeed 😁
Kimi, what a true legend.
Cheated in the first turn Schumacher style, dangerous driving, should’ve got penalty for that, no title, boo hoo he won’t be crying if he lost another title
@@johnriche4502 LH44 ain't gonna win 8 titles lol
@@crystalracing4794 what’s lh got to do with kimi? Trouble staying on topic? Sounds like adhd or autism
@@johnriche4502 BONO MY B -ACK!
@@johnriche4502 Awww no another Petronas Plonker upset their precious child hasn't been gifted an eight title 😢😢🤣
When three drivers could win a championship on the last race
Technically 4 drivers could win a championship in 2010.
But still I think 2008, 2010 and 2012 were better than 2007
That part in life when f1 2007 it's "classic" lol
Time flies doesn’t it
Well it kinda was an instant classic, you only get seasons like that once in a blue moon.
The crispy audio quality combined with the radio-style commentary by Crofty makes this sound like some 1950s recording lmao
1950? wtf
more like early 2000s or late 90s.
No it doesn't.
Never in my life have I seen a car with a gearbox issue suddenly get going again
Probably a digital issue. Good ol' restart
It was the computer, he had to restart it
all he had to do was hit ctrl+alt+delete LOL
Kimi almost smiles at the end, he must have been really happy.
Didn't know that Croft was already in F1 broadcasting.He was doing F1 broadcast so long until now.
원래는 BBC 라디오에서 데뷔했었죠
What a season.
Back then it was the 6th title for Ferrari in 8 years but now it's been the last title for 15 years. Crazy when you think about it. Back then no one would have assumed that Kimi would be the last Ferrari champion for a long time
I honestly prefer Crofty's commentary here than Allen's, Allen was pretty salty Hamilton lost while Crofty did his best to put his biases aside, also in Allen's commentary, Brundle had to remind him that it was Hamilton that was more luckier than Kimi that year lol
James Allen was always vocal for any British driver. He did it with Button as well
@@tombardsley3081 JENSON BUTTON WINS THE HUNGARIAN GP!!!! GET IN THERE!
I think it's safe to say Allen was happy whenever Kimi won as long as he won for Mclaren
I used to put 5 Live commentary on whilst watching the races 07-08 as I got sick of the Hamilton-centric commentary from ITV
Is this david or james commentary?
David Croft sounds different in this
different mic and different technology compare with today
@@amriyahya4968 plus he was doing radio commentary. BBC didn’t have the live tv rights here . ITV did
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He was much better suited to radio imo
@@carlosbarton763 yeah he sounds better
Good days when you could Watch for free lol. Wish I appreciated it then
Grande Kimi. F1 is dead to me without him
amen.
It’s crazy to think that 5.8 seconds was considered a short stop back then
well yeah, they refuel the car each pitstop. of course that takes more time. the more fuel you put in, the longer the stop.
of course, they had to refuel
Refuelling
well, there's refuelling
@@Xzibitfreek Refueling aside in 1990 there was no refueling and a quick stop was around 6-7 seconds. The teams simply adapted to the changing race conditions. Have you seen France 1990 for example? Pit boxes close to each other, the pit crew wore freaking shirts and shorts and there was NO speed limit. Absolute madlads
Its 2022, and yet kimi raikkonen is the last ferrari f1 driver champion
Only few more years and Kimi will be the longest reigning Ferrari Champion ever....it took 21 years before Michael Schumacher became first Ferrari Champion after Jody Scheckter....now Kimi has been last champion for 15 years. Honestly as long as Ferrari F1 team is lead by italians and their bad decision making, I think Kimi has good chance to break Scheckter's record
its 2032 and thats still true. when will they get their year?
@@Balnazzardi and Ferrari already signed best drivers like Alonso, Vettel, Leclerc, and soon Hamilton.
@@klockenberg2299 I think Ferrari are fools if they think that Hamilton can solve all their problems. But to be fair they are atm atleast clearly the 2nd best team. However I dont see any change coming to the pecking order before 2026 and even then if Red Bull can keep their two key people in the team (Max and Newey), its likely that they would keep winning even when regulations change. Ofc its possible though that when Red Bull changes from Honda engines to Ford engines that it might actually hurt them somewhat depending on the power and reliability of Ford power units
I didn’t even know Crofty was commentating back in 2007 🤨
Certainly a race to remember for Kimi Raikkonen, a day to forget for Lewis Hamilton.
The comments section is so split. Kimi deserves this WDC. Lewis error cost him early in the race after that Mclaren had a bad strat. So odd. Every champion deserves his title. Period
Every champion deserves his title, except...
I know you know
@@redasaq except Rosberg, you're right
@@gimmick2509 More like Hamilton
He was the dude driving with the best car all the time, that ain't a champion
@@mewtwo.150 even in 2008?
@@mewtwo.150 you’re so weird
Imagine hamilton finishing 6th place instead of 8th, he would be world champion in his first season
he wouldn't, he needed 5th place in tagt situation
Also, he finished 7th, not 8th.
Besides, every race in the season counts just as much as the last one. There were many races where you could say "if Kimi finished higher there he would have won more clearly". Hamilton had arguably more luck than Kimi that year, so him getting some weird reliability issues in this race just evened out the luck just enough for Kimi to win.
Imagine if he didnt DNF in China. Imagine, imagine, imagine.
That Ferrari looks well put together.. solid car!
Loved that championship 🥳
Before "its lights out and away we go"
Kimi was always good enough to be a champion, so I was glad he got that one. His TV personality left a bit to be desired but he was, after all, the Iceman.
He was the fastest driver of his generation by a country mile. Deserved 3 titles.
@@ciaronsmith4995 With McLaren he lost how many due to mechanicals? Too many.
He only won one but he's good enough to win multiple like Mika and Seb. Kimi's the talent generation of 00s with Alonso like Mika with Michael in 90s and Seb with Lewis in 10s.
The great jean todt era
6:07 this guy is a trully engineer, do his job no matter what happens
Massa was on another level round Interlagos. Could have run away with that easy but gave one of many perfect support driver roles
He got jumped in the pitstops fairly. And finished a pathetic 4th in the WDC.
Kimi was leagues better - despite having to adapt to new tyres and new cars.
Massa is unbeatable at his home track. Always wins/ahead throughout 2006-2008.
Croft does not know his corners lmao.
0:59 showing his inexperience and lapsing under pressure in a season where he was otherwise phenomenal for the most part
Still one of the most complete rookie ever, so there's not much for him to improve even if this costs him greatly. Raikkonen and Verstappen by contrast were one of the most underdeveloped rookies even if talented so they took few years to peak from rookie (2003 for Raikkonen, 2018 for Verstappen).
I remember watch this race back then, and I always remember the ferrari team radio 'ok it's all over... Hamilton seventh, by my calculations we win the championship by one point'
And in the present day, and I never thought that this moment will be the last time I saw Ferrari driver become the world champion
One of the best seasons
Of the 3 championships LH has cost at the death, 2007 hurts the most. How on earth do you lose the title from 17 points up with 20 points left. That's like losing a tennis match from 2 sets and 5-0 up in the third set.
This was the final race Alonso raced as world champion.
Those commentary vs 2022 commentators
Kimi's the best driver, simple really. He already deserved 2003 and 2005. This should have been his 3rd title.
Kimi is nowhere near Alonso and Hamilton. Its not even debatable.
@@revillanevado3246Of course it is debatable. He's superior to both during the tyre war and 2007. It's not even debatable. Kimi at his peak during the tyre war is the fastest driver since Ayrton Senna, while Alonso was losing to Jarno Trulli in 2004. Please. Don't joke here.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Raikkonen is incredibly lucky Massa exists because Schumacher would have absolutely dusted him at Ferrari, even at 37 years old.
@@INFEDnoX Deluded comment. Michael retired because he didn't want to face Kimi. Kimi won the title in 2007 where MSC lost it in 2006 with a faster car. If anything, Michael is lucky Kimi went to McLaren, instead of accepting the Ferrari contract in 2003. He would have won 2003, 2004 and 2006 at Ferrari easily. In the tyre war Kimi was far quicker than MSC. Only because Kimi had to adapt to a new tyre in a new team did Massa survive that stint.
@@ciaronsmith4995 The deluded one has always been you lmao. Kimi is the least adaptable "top" driver in modern F1 history and you think he would have beaten MSC in MSC's own team, with a car designed around his driving style? Schumacher would have eaten him alive. Lost to Massa after a year of "adapting" in 2008, embarrassed by Alonso, obliterated by Vettel. He's lucky he won 2007 because it always gives his fans a convenient excuse as to why he was so poor every year after 2007, including his stint at Lotus, where he was flattered by a crash-prone rookie teammate. There's levels to F1 and he's not as fast as you give him credit for.
Best f1 season of my life
Back then, 5.8 seconds pit stop was short stop. 5:35.
Short in terms of the amount of fuel they put in, not the time to change tyres
Massa's start is worth a championship
Interlagos is om of my favorite circuit
If Maclaren had kept Hamilton on his original 2 stop strategy he would have made up the places he needed to become world champion. A pitstop in Interlagos costs you approx` 28 seconds meaning that a 3 stop strategy is going to be disastrous unless you luck-in to a safety car (which, sadly for LH, didn`t occur).
"Bwoah....I´m champion....."
2:07 Morris Hamilton lol
*Maurice Hamilton
He's the second commentator, who wrote Niki Lauda's biography.
20 drivers, 8 of which could be WC contenders. Can you imagine this today? @@
That was the best championship 🏆
Crazy start by Ferrari. No ego, both drivers focusing on the block.
0:55 es la misma maniobra que Alonso le hizo a coulthard en nurburgring 2003
Now say it but without crying
😂😂cry
Ok, 5 second penalty
Coulthard es el Webber del inicio del 2000
Un tío don nadie, que si no tiene una mala arrancada, se la pasa chocando (así como su última carrera)
El tío se cree mejor que Schumacher, y jamás hizo nada bueno en la Fórmula 1
Pilotos buenos que no tienen título, pon q Juan Pablo Montoya, ese si que era un pilotazo, pon a Robert Kubica
Pero Coulthard es un chiste con un ego por las nubes
Crofty in the radio....
These cars were so fuckin fun
You never let a rookie win a world championship no matter how good they are
Through goes Kubica 8:56
Raikkonen absolutely slaughtered Alonso this race. What a drive and what a year from Kimi. Alonso looked like a fucking rookie.
Resentful of 2005 and 2014? Alonso would have wiped Kimi in 2007 had him have the team behind
@@alexpollan6197 Pipe down spanish fanboy. Alonso bottled it as always. Didn't even have the pace throughout the entire season.
@@rlb4403 mmm, try again. Kimi just picked up the pieces,... rightfully yes, he was really fast the second half. But "slaughtered/rookie" are overstatements. Anyway, if you feel happy...
@@rlb4403 Alonso mange to take this to the last race fighting Kimi LH and his own team the gave him no suport from Canada on. In no way did he bottle this. The bottle job was LH with the most reliable car and full backing of the team. He threw this championship away with this poor showing and his crash in the pit lane at China. Still the only drive I have seen since 1976 crash twice in the pits. The other time was in Canada where he disobeyed the red light at the end of the pits and crashed in to Kimis stopped Ferrari.
@@thearsenalmisfit2414 in no way he bottled it? Doesn't Fuji ring a bell?
Raikkonen is a surly, joyless robot with all the charisma of your average boulder.
And yet he had and still have millions of fans around the world, one of the most popular drivers ever in F1, so cry some more 😂
Hamilton and Alonso together is an awesome team lineup even if they did clash with each other
Alonso and Hamilton would have been a great combination but unfortunately Mclearn had Ron Dennis running the team and he could not handle the drivers just like he couldn't handle Prost or Senna. Then to top it off after Hamilton's 1st win in Canada he through all the teams backing on the rookie freezing Alonso out with no support. The result was the feud blowing up for all to see in Hungary with Dennis showing exactly where his support was after the Q3 incident . Ron got what he deserved for only backing the rookie and taking sides.
@@thearsenalmisfit2414 This is the alternative version of history, normally brought out by the Alonso sycophants to justify him not being able to beat a rookie.
Hamilton was in the wrong to ignore the team order in Hungary, the fact that team order existed at all is proof that your delusion that Alonso getting no support is just that, a delusion. And instead of letting it get sorted out by the team, Alonso took it into his own hands, not only making Lewis miss his qualifying lap, but getting sent to the back of the grid himself. Yeah I think that would piss off any team boss.
And then to top all that off, Alonso attempts to blackmail Ron Dennis over spy gate, those are the real reasons Alonso's relationship went downhill. And guess what, he does that in every team he's in, alienates them until they're sick of the sight of him, phenomenal driver and phenomenal talent with nothing between him and Hamilton (in the rookie season at least), but he's his own worst enemy and manages to turn every team against him.
@@ceirwan Well that’s completely wrong. In Hungary, it was not a team order it was simply how McLaren functioned. They had alternative Races to get their drivers an extra lap, meaning before Hungary Lewis would get an extra lap. So please do your research before commenting
@@ceirwan Pulling his physician by his neck in-front of the Tv and media and then complaining to FIA over Hungary which would demote Alonso to 6th (even though it was Lewis fault initially) wasn’t very civilised, was it?
I am sorry but you are also victim of how everything is portrayed in media , you need to look deeply mate. The cause of the rift between Alonso and Dennis was Monaco, in which Fernando completely ahead was chased by Lewis. He was preserving the car and taking care of tyres and it is a fact that you don’t get overtaken in Monaco unless there’s an exception. But Lewis started chasing him, and in the words of Priestly “Almost collected Alonso by running onto his rear” so the chances were huge that they would both get DNF. So McLaren told Lewis to back off and stop the stupidity. Now Lewis cried in front of media that there’s clear no. 1 and 2. Ron Dennis, instead of talking to Lewis and giving him some advice rather said to Alonso that this win actually belonged to Lewis😂. Imagine being a 2 times world champion taking care of your car and the team principal say this to you. Then there was a war between Alonso and McLaren (Lewis &Dennis)
@@ceirwan so Alonso wasn’t just fighting a rookie, he was fighting an establishment.
Damn, that thumbnail is haunting
Rookie error, Ron backed the wrong driver!
everyone talks about Glock in 2008, but not many mention Heidfeld & Rosberg somehow refusing to take each other out and thus keeping Lewis at least 1 point behind the champonship. Lewis does not have a lot of luck with Nicks, Nicos & Nickys.
Wow crofty wasent a blatant Screaming hamilton supporter back then, this commentary is actually better than the constant theorising and shouting we see now
last time ferrari fans were happy...
Jesus, Crofty with good commentary and good analysis compared to his Sky stuff - is this parallel universe?
Racing was so much better without DRS so much more skill about the overtaking
They brought in the DRS because a few years after this, overtaking was basically non existent.
The other commentator is Maurice Hamilton, who wrote the Niki Lauda biography?
More f1 bbc highlights from 2000 to 2008
F1s title decider went from a beautiful flowing track with passionate fans and unpredictable weather to the worst track ever made with stands filled with oil barons and b list celebs in a bone dry desert.
Alonso helps Kimi and the crowd, and Hamilton is left behind
.........WOW...........!
Grande Kimi!
OMG, Croft is commetated, and is not same with "It's light out, and away we go"
🤨HIGHLIGHTS !!!! As a McLaren fan (at the time) it was the worst🤮managed season in Grand Prix history.... BOTH, ONE POINT behind the World Champ winner.
It was a disaster of a season for the team which was lucky to be able to even put it's cars on the grid after the Spygate affair. The team should have got a 2 year ban but the thought of 2 seasons of Ferrari precieved dominance was to much for the Fia who thought it would cost the sport fans.
Ron Dennis never recovered from this season and it proved again he could not manage 2 top drivers at the same time. He learned nothing from Prost and Senna.
and you think that this finale was as it was, or manipulated ? Hamilton struggles seem too fake
@@orangecatmusic8441 No reason to think it was manipulated IMO. If I remember correctly, Lewis hit the pitlane speed limiter by accident, that's why he was running so slow for a bit. I'm a Hamilton fan but you have to admit the rookie pressure got to him in the last two races of 2007, any other experienced driver at the time would have cruised to win the championship in his position.
As a Kimi fan, I do feel a tad sorry for you. No one thought Lewis would be that quick out of the box, no one could foresee spygate and no one could foresee Alonso's relationship with Dennis breaking down like it did. I really wanted Kimi to win the WDC with McLaren, but 2007 was one of the strangest years ever
I thought that he started commentating F1 in 2012
Well i was wrong obviously
Hamilton will be always in top 10 of all time...
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This is not the 2007 Brazil highlights. More like the 2007 highlight for Lewis.
What do you expect? It's the 'BBC' highlights
I mean he had the most action that race
Only one worth watching... 🤷♂️
@@Until_It_Is_Done at least you are getting plenty of midfield coverage of him this year
@@peacemission305 on the podium the last 4 races, consistently beating at least one of the Ferrari and Redbull's. But please go on, don't let facts get in the way on your salty bias... 😄
I rather like the main commentator here. Wonder where he is now.
Robert polock
And even then ....Zitti e buoni 😁
Hamilton is something special.
Alonso is something special
Kimi is something special
You can’t take it away from Lewis. Even back then , Ron Dennis saw he had so much raw talent with fire and hunger in his ability to drive Karts.
If he had kept his political views to himself instead of using them as a platform, then he wouldn’t be disliked as much as he is now.
Although….. There is an argument to say, that a worker is only as good as the tools he is given.
Both Mercedes cars are extremely poor since the design rule change with ground effects being bought in this season.
Hamilton has already said that he is focusing on next seasons car. He also said it’s the worst car he has driven since karting.
Mmmmm, just as well you wasn’t at McLaren when they had Honda as the engine supplier then Lewis. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Yes, Hamilton is something special for having the best luck of the modern era
As Alonso said in the last race, the dude can only win if he starts from the pole position
@@mewtwo.150 Dude are you ok? There is therapy for this behaviour you know
Kubica
David Croft was actually a better, more calmer commentator back then. Before his cringey "lights out and away we go" catchphrase (stolen from Ben Edwards).
Cope
is that crofty?
lol 2007 was the final championship win of ferrari i can't believe in 15 years they are not able to win just at least 1 championship the last championship win of mercedes was in 2020 just imagine mercedes not win at least 1 championship until 2035? i only know williams and mclaren who has not won a championship since 1997 for williams and 2008 for mclaren but they never got a great car since 20 years for williams and 10 years for mclaren so it's understandable but ferrari it's not because they got a fast car in 2008,2010,2012,2017,2018,2022 and in 6 tries they never won at least 1 wow i can't believe it😭
Both Alonso and Hamilton should have been disqualified from the 2007 driver's championship due to their obvious involvement in Spygate
crofty classic
Imagine if Lewis had an actually good car. He always had shitty cars.
The mclaren was the best car that year?? brotha what
You don't have to. He had one in 2007, 2008 and from 2014 all the way through to 2021.
Sto saying bullshit please
Well, you didnt watch all season then, that McLaren was exact same copycat from ferrari F2007
@@RockSolitude Sherlock...
6.4 pit stop it was good back then?
Refuel
@@m.a.5369 He didn't ask if it was a refuel or not
Yep, that was a pretty good one. It depended on how much fuel you had to put in but 6-7 seconds was what you wanted
Schumacher blocked him from joining Ferrari. Schumacher only wanted weak obedient team-mates, Kimi would never have been that.
Exactly!!!
It would have been nice to see Ferrari as a strong team when Kimi was with Alonso
Can you imagine the battles??? Too bad that time was bad for Ferrari
Not a Lewis fan, but really if it weren’t for terrible luck he might have 9 championships
Dude, dont talk about terrible luck when it comes to Lewis...for most of his career he has had the luck on his side, unlike with Kimi for example who could have become 3x WDC if Mclaren-Mercedes hadnt constantly failed him.
Even in 2007 Kimi had 2 DNFs that happened because Ferrari's reliability issues, while Mclaren (ironically) finally enjoyed pretty much bullet proof reliabilty. Even this Gearbox issue didnt leave Hamilton without points. There wasnt a single Mclaren DNF that year that would have been because poor reliability.
Also in 2008 Massa would have won the championship had he had better luck on his side. The only times I think luck wasnt on Lewis side was in 2016 and perhaps in 2021. I could give those championships to Lewis, so 8 championships max. And even when you have 7 championships, you cant talk about the guy having bad luck. Hamilton has been lucky so many times with others having trouble, lucky most of the time when Safety Car had come to the track to get free pitstops and perhaps the most lucky of all how/when his tyre failed in 2020 British GP and still managed to win that race because it happened in the last lap
I would say 10 championships: 2007, 2016 and 2021.
@@flom1951
Yes, 2007 and 2021 I think you can definitely make a case for however, I feel in 2016 he just got beat
@@sebastianvirga1015 2016 unreliability made him lose the championship
Back when a small mistake makes you lose big time to climb back positions. Today's racing is complete opposite, makes it way too easy like a game, drs must be removed respectively.
Tell me about it. These days a driver only has to sprain his index finger and they bring out the safety car, but only if it’s good for Mercedes and redbull. It’s funny how it’s always the lapped cats or back markers magically parking their cars in an unsafe spot on the track.
@@giuseppepennisi8699 It's because F1 has gone from sport to complete business since 2010. They (liberty and F1) decide who they want to see victorious.
@@archvile1313 I’m not disagreeing with you at all and I think it actually goes back to Schumacher days . Just the amount of Saftey cars at the precise moments needed to place whoever back to the top of the championship fight or whoever they decide to be victorious is highly suspicious . There’s sport betting mafia behind it all for sure.
@@giuseppepennisi8699 In the V10 era there was some strange decisions taken but not as much as later happened, and I mean later as in 2010+ (ever since the 2nd V8 regs which started in 2009+) many things changed. It's like media, society, fame, money and etc... all impacted the concept of F1. To put it into a further example, if we look at the list of champions of the past, we see many many different names varying between year after year unlike since 2010. Vettel then Hamilton and now most probably Verstappen (for many years) and to me that's not racing, that's a complete business and contracts deals to whom they chose to be triumph for a dedicated time. Yes Schumacher did win consecutive years too but the follow ups were not repeated identically as well therefore Michael wasn't inside the circle in my opinion, he just opened the path and everyone enjoyed it because many like Ferrari and the glorious V10 sounds of what a true Formula car must be. By the way there's way more SC today than there was during the V10 and early V8 eras.
@@archvile1313 thought I was the only one taking crazy pills. Glad to know there others that see through this blanket of BS.
if you look closer at the start, Massa did a dirty move to back Hamilton into Alonso
Nothing dirty about . Its a team sport with tactics.
That was Kimi, and it's a perfectly legal move
wait so they needed hamilton to have a terrible race??
Anthony Davidson
🤣🤣
The British were ridiculized. Alonso should have won that year.
Karma... 😂
Hamilton was faster than Alonso by 0.08% on average. He got ass saved from embarassment if Hamilton won the championship
Yeah with a Rookie as a team mate and a car as good as the Fezza he should have done. Guess he wasn't as good as you thought.
You’re right, he should have but he wasn’t good enough. Kimi was better.
Rookie Hamilton beat 2 times Worldchampion Alonso in equal car! 💪💪
They tied 107 against 107 points, don’t change the facts
They tied on points and Hamilton had full team support while Alonso got no support after Canada at all. Rons reaction to the Hungary quali incident proves that fact beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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@@juanpescanova5910 You can't tie in F1 you either beat him or not. If for instance Lewis couldn't pass Glock you can't seriously tell me Massa and Hamilton both tied for the title.
@@juanpescanova5910 he beat Alonso on countback
KIMI
Massa break checking Hamilton was pretty dirty.
Hamiltontoooooooo
I think that Mclaren knew the scandal of the spy gate was coming and they let Ferrari win.
Spygate had already happened mid season. The team was kicked out of the constructors championships and given a huge fine. For many it did not go far enough as the were calls for a 2 year ban.
Dude they had already been punished by getting disqualified from WCC and also given 100 million dollar fine I think it was.
Mclaren drivers were free to race for the championship however as it was not their fault. Ofc there was lot of speculation that this was " a set up" to make it look championship was still open to the end, but all it would have taken for either Mclaren driver to win the championship was for Kimi to take 2 points less. And it would have looked way worse then if they had disqualified either Hamilton or Alonso from championship afterwards.
So no, Mclaren had already been punished and their drivers just threw it away in the end. Alonso first by crashing out in wet conditions in Fuji and Hamilton/the team threwing it away in China by pitting too late with worn out tyres