I had switched from the 40/40 grind to the asymmetrical grind that I first saw Richard Raffan use and then you. When I had a 160 grit white wheel it was somewhat difficult to freehand grind with that, but I have a 180 grit CBN wheel now, 1.5 inch, and that is so gentle (and wide helps) that it is easy to freehand a perfect grind. The CBN makes a huge difference for me. The asymmetric grind is also helping me very much. I also started using the scraper, copying what Richard Raffan and you use, and that too has been a very big improvement for me. I had already picked up much of what you covered in this video from earlier videos, and can say from experience that it all works, and works better for me than what I had learned from some other very talented turners. I also agree that it is not really possible to tell someone what speed to use. There are too many variables, but also RPM and, say, feet per second, are two different measures. RPM alone won't tell you how fast the wood meets your edge at different radii. On a very large diameter piece a relatively low RPM may still be way too fast as you move out. The last thing in this long comment--it is very helpful to me and I suspect many others that you are using a lathe that most of us can afford. What works on a very powerful lathe often will not on a small lathe, and it just leads to disappointment to try to do what someone with a powerful lathe has demonstrated.
Thank you sir for your contribution, I'm really happy to hear that you have great results what Richard has thought us.... I'll probably pin your comment to the top of the video beacuse it adds so much to video... Thank you sir 😀
Such a lovely, well thought out, sincere comment. Tom is right, it does add to the video. The woodworking community online is one of the last genuine, non-toxic communities on the internet. Have a good one sir.
Brilliant. The best demonstration I have seen of bowl turning , step by step and no nonsense. Love your videos and I learn so much. I recommend your channel to all the turners I know.
It is good to see different techniques and how they work. Your video was very educational for me and has given me ideas to try in my own turning. Thanks much.
One of my favorite videos. I liked the specific intent of showing a few cuts and explaining them. It so happened that I was using the pull cut, but I didn't know what it was called or if I was doing it exactly right. I noticed that as I came around the bowl it turned into a push cut. And then you described exactly that operation. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and great skill.
Detailed, practical and very focused. This is one of the best descriptive videos I have seen covering so much. The camera angles and sound levels are spot on. You've nailed it and thank you for outting in so much effort.👍
Your videos are fantastic. When I started turning I relied on a video by Del Stubs who used shear scraping a lot. Then for years everyone said only use gouges. Now I have returned to using scraping techniques and find it works very well. Thank you for your honest and informative videos. By the way, you English is impeccable, better than most native speakers in the USA. Keep it up.
Thank you very much for kind words and I had Del send me his dvd on turning, first one ever did, and I enjoyed watching him...he is a master not just at turning but in blacksmithing as well.... I still have to relax and remind what I try to say or explain in English, but with time will get better... Thank you once again
If this video cannot drag stubborn turners away from their old methods, I'm not sure anything can. And I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with the old methods or those methods you learn at the start. But I see some people that are years and years into it, still relying on their tool rest to guide their index finger. By this point I would hope they've got the muscle memory trained as well as learned the better, faster and more efficient techniques. I suppose I was misusing scrapers until about a year ago. You and Richard demonstrated their proper use. Always appreciate your videos, Tomislav.
Can't wait to experiment when home today! You really annihilated that blank. Disappeared in shavings. like the beaded banding. Such beauty in simple, straightforward lines
I've only recently come across your videos, and am really enjoying and benefitting from them. About a month ago, under pressure from a friend, I booked a table at a local craft fair (for next weekend). I've been busily trying to create enough to put on the table (I am a very amateur turner!). Anyway, your method of shaping the outside of the bowl has saved me so much time and secured a much better finish than my previous method. I'd been taught to true the outside of the bowl, then the foot, then use push cuts from the top of the bowl to towards the foot. I've found that your way of doing things cuts out two of those processes and quickly moves towards the desired shape with much more control over the emerging shape. One question about your homemade beading tool. I have a shop bought one, but whenever I use it I get tear out on the beads on the endgrain side of the blank. It's probably a sharpening issue but do you have any ideas about how to prevent that happening it (including how to sharpen a beading tool)? Thanks for the time you put into your videos. I'm slowly working through your back-catalogue!
Glad for you and I wish all the best at the fair.... Glad to hear that you have improve your tehniques and you have much more joyfull expirience..... Using that beadinf tool is like a scraper, some woods don't like it.... I'll do probably soon video on sharpening it so it might help
Thanks Tomislav fo another very useful video. Really like all the detailed tips, particularly the demo of free hand sharpening the asymmetrical grind. I have an older extra bowl gouge I think I’ll try doing it on when I get time to get out to the shop (too many “Honey-dos” 🙄). The beading tool is also another good idea and made a lovely bowl. Thanks again for the video. Cheers, Tom
I think you just up'd my turning game, so much that I enjoyed about this video, I can't begin to say which part I enjoyed more, I learned so much, thank you for sharing, and I'll echo other comments you are an excellent instructor.
Excellent video. Just like Richard Raffan, you make it loo so easy! Just wondered how you raise a fresh burr on the beading tool when it gets a bit dull.
Thank you so much for kind words 🤗 this is still from the grinder but I'll either use tiny metal fine or tiny sticks with wet and dry sandpaper....one of those😀
Just came across your channel, I did not expect much but what a surprise, awesome video, great explanation and I learned a lot. Thanks, looking forward to watch all the other videos. 😊
Good looking bowl. Since there is not much mass and a lot of surface area, it should dry very quickly. I'm going to have to try the asymmetric grind after watching you and Richard Raffan make it cut so efficiently.
Nice video thank you.. I never have been able to sharpen a gouge with grits higher than 80 or so. I tried out a 180 cbn and after 2 or 3 sharpening I end up loosing the profile and needing to regrind to get the profile back. I think I am brain dead on this, so I resolved myself to just using 80 grit for all my gouges I am too old to learn new trick I guess.
You are Not brain dead sir, nothing wrong using 80 grit,I also find more difficult to sharpen on finer grits.... Its taking so little steel that you cannot gauge where you are sharp.... You do good job sir
Another fantastic video, I have learned so much. Thank you. I have two questions; most of my wood is vey dry, some of it has been in a shed for 40 years. On such a dry piece would you change your turning technique and would you use a finer grit to sharpen the tools?
No controversy intended but I find that the tool and the grind, sharpness, speed, wood type and expertise all affect the cuts. I happen to use Stuart Batty's methods which work excellent for me. Check out his races with Mahoney and you will see how fast he is (and quality)! You have what I see as an excellent knowledge base, tool control and sense of design. Thanks for sharing.
I have huge respect for Stuart and I have seen his videos, its awsome method...but like I said, the beauty of turning is that there is so many ways to get to finish line.... Thank you sir for kind words and support what I do 🤗
Love the process breakdown in detail! I use a belt grinder with 36 120 and 600 grit belts. 36 for serious shaping, 120 to touch up scrapers and or get gouge in shape, and 600 for regular touch ups. While it doesn't hold the super sharp edge for a long time, it eats less steel and I think it may be helpful with that final pass on my m42 steel gouge. My diamond hone is 600 too so I feel it's kind of giving me the same edge in the end for gouges and the burr on the scraper. By the way, when you sharpen your skew, do you hone/strop it at all?
So, since this was a rough turning when and to what moisture level would you "finish turn" this? A little confused. Do you wait til bowl is 10-12% and then sand and finish or ?
I know it can be quite confusing and I'll do a video soon on this....you can turn wet wood to finish,in one day or wait to dry .... For this one since it was around 25% moisture,it was realative easy to sand and tool finish was good as well , And after that I let it dry in the house , it distorted a lot but I knew that and I like that.... A lot to write on this so like I said I'll do a video....👍😀
One question, how do you clean CBN wheel? Mine gets build up with steel "dust" quite fast, maybe because i removed just half of the cover for a wheel? Thanks for your answer 🙃
There is a cbn cleaning stick you can buy. Mine are white and very hard but do not harm the wheel. Also do not sharpen softer steel such as older carbon steel tools on a cbn wheel. They will clog it up. There is a test for high speed steel vs. carbon steel but I do not remember it. Look it up if needed.
I had switched from the 40/40 grind to the asymmetrical grind that I first saw Richard Raffan use and then you. When I had a 160 grit white wheel it was somewhat difficult to freehand grind with that, but I have a 180 grit CBN wheel now, 1.5 inch, and that is so gentle (and wide helps) that it is easy to freehand a perfect grind. The CBN makes a huge difference for me. The asymmetric grind is also helping me very much. I also started using the scraper, copying what Richard Raffan and you use, and that too has been a very big improvement for me. I had already picked up much of what you covered in this video from earlier videos, and can say from experience that it all works, and works better for me than what I had learned from some other very talented turners. I also agree that it is not really possible to tell someone what speed to use. There are too many variables, but also RPM and, say, feet per second, are two different measures. RPM alone won't tell you how fast the wood meets your edge at different radii. On a very large diameter piece a relatively low RPM may still be way too fast as you move out. The last thing in this long comment--it is very helpful to me and I suspect many others that you are using a lathe that most of us can afford. What works on a very powerful lathe often will not on a small lathe, and it just leads to disappointment to try to do what someone with a powerful lathe has demonstrated.
Thank you sir for your contribution, I'm really happy to hear that you have great results what Richard has thought us.... I'll probably pin your comment to the top of the video beacuse it adds so much to video...
Thank you sir 😀
Such a lovely, well thought out, sincere comment. Tom is right, it does add to the video. The woodworking community online is one of the last genuine, non-toxic communities on the internet. Have a good one sir.
May I just say both “Wow” and THANK YOU!
Thank you very much 🤗
Brilliant. The best demonstration I have seen of bowl turning , step by step and no nonsense. Love your videos and I learn so much. I recommend your channel to all the turners I know.
Thank you Tony for kind words and reccomendation , I really appriciate that
Best tutorial I have seen from a seasoned turner!
Thank you very much
Hi Tomislav,
Your tricks and tips are great. Hope you are enjoying, your new shed. Cheers
Richard
Thank you Richard
Thank you for sharing the talent with everyone. I greatly appreciate it.
Thank you very much 🤗
Excellent video Tomislav. I really appreciate the tutorial and tips videos. 🕶 “there’s more than one way to cook a chicken “.
Agree Steven, nicely said
Pleasurable is exactly the right word.
Good to hear that 😀
I absolutely am addicted to watching your videos! You are a great teacher!
Very clear explanations
Thank you very much 🤗 glad to hear that
Great tips and tricks Tomislav.
Thank you Jack
Im always happy to get this kind of information. Thanks for posting.
No worries,thank You for watching
Just go on reading the comments. We are all in agreement and in awe of your talents and teachings.
Thank you very much 😀
Lovely. The little beading tool works really well with the curved profile on the teeth.
Best Wishes, Brendan,
Thank you very much Brendan, it works great
Lots of useful tips and great presentation. Thanks!
Thank you sir for watching 🤗
Very nice bowl 🥣 I like your work Thanks 😊
Thank you sir....🤗
It is good to see different techniques and how they work. Your video was very educational for me and has given me ideas to try in my own turning. Thanks much.
Thank you, I'm honored to be able to help out ☺️
One of my favorite videos. I liked the specific intent of showing a few cuts and explaining them. It so happened that I was using the pull cut, but I didn't know what it was called or if I was doing it exactly right. I noticed that as I came around the bowl it turned into a push cut. And then you described exactly that operation. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and great skill.
Glad to help out and thank you very much for watching 🤗
Detailed, practical and very focused. This is one of the best descriptive videos I have seen covering so much.
The camera angles and sound levels are spot on.
You've nailed it and thank you for outting in so much effort.👍
So glad to hear that and thank you for support
Great video, and your English is very good. And, pleasurable is indeed a valid word!
Glad to hear that ☺️
Thank you 😀
A true craftsman sir, great tuition video.
Thank you sir
Lots of tips in this one, very helpful.
Glad to hear that
Nice job and explanation of what your doing...
Thank you 😀
Great video. Thanks for showing how you shape your bowl gouge!
No worries, thank you for watching and soon there will be more of that☺️
Another great demo showing some really useful skills. Thank you.
Glad to help out, thank you
Your videos are fantastic. When I started turning I relied on a video by Del Stubs who used shear scraping a lot. Then for years everyone said only use gouges. Now I have returned to using scraping techniques and find it works very well. Thank you for your honest and informative videos. By the way, you English is impeccable, better than most native speakers in the USA. Keep it up.
Thank you very much for kind words and I had Del send me his dvd on turning, first one ever did, and I enjoyed watching him...he is a master not just at turning but in blacksmithing as well.... I still have to relax and remind what I try to say or explain in English, but with time will get better... Thank you once again
If this video cannot drag stubborn turners away from their old methods, I'm not sure anything can. And I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with the old methods or those methods you learn at the start. But I see some people that are years and years into it, still relying on their tool rest to guide their index finger. By this point I would hope they've got the muscle memory trained as well as learned the better, faster and more efficient techniques.
I suppose I was misusing scrapers until about a year ago. You and Richard demonstrated their proper use.
Always appreciate your videos, Tomislav.
Thank you Jay very much 🤗
Outstanding video! So much great information at one time. Thanks.
So glad to hear that.. thank you
Excellent demonstration…the sharpening portion was very helpful, thanks!
Thank you, glad to hear that
So good Tomislav! I learn so much from you. Thank you again!
No worries, thank You sir 😉
I really admire your turning skills, and the information you provide is so useful and clear. Thank you
Thank you very much for watching and kind words
Fantastic!! Thanks for letting us look over your shoulder as you do your work.
No worries, thank You for watching
That was awesome, you show and explain!! I watch as many of your videos as I can, because I'm trying to learn as a beginner. Thank you
Glad to help out as much as I can...thank you for watching
A most excellent video !!
Thank you
Awesome, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and craftsmanship. Beautiful bowl. 👍👍👍
Thank you very much 🤗
Very helpful, I particularly appreciate the sharpening segment.
Thank you,glad to help out
Can't wait to experiment when home today! You really annihilated that blank. Disappeared in shavings. like the beaded banding. Such beauty in simple, straightforward lines
Thank you Sir, hopefully you did well in your shop
I've only recently come across your videos, and am really enjoying and benefitting from them. About a month ago, under pressure from a friend, I booked a table at a local craft fair (for next weekend). I've been busily trying to create enough to put on the table (I am a very amateur turner!). Anyway, your method of shaping the outside of the bowl has saved me so much time and secured a much better finish than my previous method. I'd been taught to true the outside of the bowl, then the foot, then use push cuts from the top of the bowl to towards the foot. I've found that your way of doing things cuts out two of those processes and quickly moves towards the desired shape with much more control over the emerging shape. One question about your homemade beading tool. I have a shop bought one, but whenever I use it I get tear out on the beads on the endgrain side of the blank. It's probably a sharpening issue but do you have any ideas about how to prevent that happening it (including how to sharpen a beading tool)? Thanks for the time you put into your videos. I'm slowly working through your back-catalogue!
Glad for you and I wish all the best at the fair.... Glad to hear that you have improve your tehniques and you have much more joyfull expirience.....
Using that beadinf tool is like a scraper, some woods don't like it.... I'll do probably soon video on sharpening it so it might help
Great explanations !!
Thank you
I bought a Crown “French curve” scraper today and it is absolutely amazing! I saw a Sorby that was twice the thickness, but $89 vs $156
Awsome to hear that,enjoy it ☺️
Very nice great information. I would like to see more videos like this.
Awsome, glad to hear that
Thanks Tomislav fo another very useful video. Really like all the detailed tips, particularly the demo of free hand sharpening the asymmetrical grind. I have an older extra bowl gouge I think I’ll try doing it on when I get time to get out to the shop (too many “Honey-dos” 🙄). The beading tool is also another good idea and made a lovely bowl. Thanks again for the video. Cheers, Tom
Thank you Tom, really appriciate your support
Outstandong work 😋😋
Thanks
I think you just up'd my turning game, so much that I enjoyed about this video, I can't begin to say which part I enjoyed more, I learned so much, thank you for sharing, and I'll echo other comments you are an excellent instructor.
Thank you sir, means a lot to me☺️
Great, very good detailed camera view. I would love to see how you make your tools as well how to keep them sharp. Gracias
Thank you sir, I'll try to do that as well
Excellent video. Just like Richard Raffan, you make it loo so easy! Just wondered how you raise a fresh burr on the beading tool when it gets a bit dull.
Thank you so much for kind words 🤗 this is still from the grinder but I'll either use tiny metal fine or tiny sticks with wet and dry sandpaper....one of those😀
Your demonstrations are very helpful. Thanks for sharing your experiences and advice with me.
No problem, I'm honored to be able to help out
Thank you.
😀
Just came across your channel, I did not expect much but what a surprise, awesome video, great explanation and I learned a lot.
Thanks, looking forward to watch all the other videos. 😊
Very glad to hear that sir, thank you
Great work and awesome information!
Thank you Sir
Excellent video. I just started using this technique and you clarified it a bit more on how to use the gouge on the outside, thank you.
Glad to hear that sir, glad to help out
Good looking bowl. Since there is not much mass and a lot of surface area, it should dry very quickly. I'm going to have to try the asymmetric grind after watching you and Richard Raffan make it cut so efficiently.
Its awsome grind and very usefull ☺️
Thank you very much for watching
Thanks!
Thank you Steven for generous donation, I really appriciate that ☺️
Sound great
Awsome, thank you
Nice video thank you.. I never have been able to sharpen a gouge with grits higher than 80 or so. I tried out a 180 cbn and after 2 or 3 sharpening I end up loosing the profile and needing to regrind to get the profile back. I think I am brain dead on this, so I resolved myself to just using 80 grit for all my gouges I am too old to learn new trick I guess.
You are Not brain dead sir, nothing wrong using 80 grit,I also find more difficult to sharpen on finer grits.... Its taking so little steel that you cannot gauge where you are sharp.... You do good job sir
Another fantastic video, I have learned so much. Thank you. I have two questions; most of my wood is vey dry, some of it has been in a shed for 40 years. On such a dry piece would you change your turning technique and would you use a finer grit to sharpen the tools?
Thank you
☺️
No controversy intended but I find that the tool and the grind, sharpness, speed, wood type and expertise all affect the cuts. I happen to use Stuart Batty's methods which work excellent for me. Check out his races with Mahoney and you will see how fast he is (and quality)! You have what I see as an excellent knowledge base, tool control and sense of design. Thanks for sharing.
I have huge respect for Stuart and I have seen his videos, its awsome method...but like I said, the beauty of turning is that there is so many ways to get to finish line....
Thank you sir for kind words and support what I do 🤗
Love the process breakdown in detail! I use a belt grinder with 36 120 and 600 grit belts. 36 for serious shaping, 120 to touch up scrapers and or get gouge in shape, and 600 for regular touch ups. While it doesn't hold the super sharp edge for a long time, it eats less steel and I think it may be helpful with that final pass on my m42 steel gouge. My diamond hone is 600 too so I feel it's kind of giving me the same edge in the end for gouges and the burr on the scraper. By the way, when you sharpen your skew, do you hone/strop it at all?
Thank you.... 😀
I never hone skew unless I need to scrape with it on some specific situation....for spindle work I use it straight from grinder
Nice job. What angle is that scraper?
Around 45 on the noss
So, since this was a rough turning when and to what moisture level would you "finish turn" this? A little confused. Do you wait til bowl is 10-12% and then sand and finish or ?
I know it can be quite confusing and I'll do a video soon on this....you can turn wet wood to finish,in one day or wait to dry .... For this one since it was around 25% moisture,it was realative easy to sand and tool finish was good as well , And after that I let it dry in the house , it distorted a lot but I knew that and I like that....
A lot to write on this so like I said I'll do a video....👍😀
Superbe ! Ou avez vous trouvé l’outils pour les tores ? Merci
Something has lost in translation, if you could explain a bit more?
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning je cherche la gouge utilise pour faire les tores ..merci
Gouge for tours..
Torus..
What happened to the Record Coronet lathe you had?
Sold it, as I had midi plus ll on the way to test it out,at the moment no place for two lathes 😀
Thanks! You can't do too many tips and tricks videos
Thank you sir
One question, how do you clean CBN wheel? Mine gets build up with steel "dust" quite fast, maybe because i removed just half of the cover for a wheel?
Thanks for your answer 🙃
There is a cbn cleaning stick you can buy. Mine are white and very hard but do not harm the wheel.
Also do not sharpen softer steel such as older carbon steel tools on a cbn wheel. They will clog it up.
There is a test for high speed steel vs. carbon steel but I do not remember it. Look it up if needed.
@@danielmetzler307 i have record power hss bowl gouge but i will soon buy gurtool
Daniel wrote it nicely, there are cleaning sticks although mine for now is ok...
You will be really happy with GURTOOL
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning thank you, best regards from slovenia 😊
@@MZwoodturning greetings susjed 👍