Sometimes we need to take a minute to appreciate how fortunate we are to have experts like Tomislav and Richard passing on their knowledge for basically free. Master classes in the art and craft of wood turning that have helped so many improve their ability and enjoyment of wood turning. Thank you so much Tomislav.
As a beginner I have heard people talking about the angle of attack needing to be less than 90-degrees, but I never really grasped the importance until you explained it with the cutaway bowl. Granted, I am a graphical learner (that's why I watch videos!), but it was like turning on a light. It's clear you've had very good, patient teachers in your life, or you are just a natural teacher, but either way I am very thankful for your videos!
You clarified several things that I didn't even realize I hadn't understood from dozens of other videos I've watched. I'm adding this to my "watch before I turn" playlist so I can refresh my memory before each lathe session until it is in my muscle memory. Thank you!
This guy took the words right out of my mouth. I have heard the theory and been shear scraping box interiors but, until you demonstrated the decrease in the angle to far less than 90 degrees as you approach the rim, I never fully understood the theory. Now I do so tyvm, Tomislav! And people will say that as long as you know how to do it, what's the difference? And I would say that once you understand that theory you can apply it to so many other circumstances.
Excellent explanation and demonstration-obviously takes practice to have that gentle touch too. Thanks again for sharing your experience and skills. 👍😁 greetings from Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺😁🦘
I was used to working with tool steel on metal working tools and I am always impressed with the torture test it can endure, like on a metal lathe. So it just never occurred to me that I could manually raise a burr on a material that is so tough until seeing you show us. This tutorial on scraping is worth addressing in more than one video to make sure it “sinks in”. So I was glade to see it gone over again.
Great video., as always! I wish woodturners would use the geometry term "acute" when talking about the angle of the scraper. It would save so much time and prevent confusion.
Unfourtually English is not my native language,so many terms I have never meet, but Hopefully with time and feedback like this I'll learn new terms😄 thank you for watching
Absolutely fantastic lesson. I use a standard scraper and have attempted to do the same shape on it as yours. It works really well. I do sometimes get a catch, but I'm getting better. This video will help focus my attention again. Thank you.
Very well explained with great teaching points. It is obvious that you thought through your plan before you turned the camera on. Thank you for doing this.
Fundamental first ! Ovo je bila karika koja je pomogla da povežem ponašanje noževa , izgled površine i pojmove end i cross /slide grain (po brazdi ili preko oranice :) , ) jako korisno . Tomica hvala , pozdrav Miro
This is excellent Tomislav. I am doing a demo next week and it involves making a box so there's lots of great information I can pass on here. Thank you Sir. Best Wishes, Brendan.
I have in depth 2 part video on using skews, first is sharpening and shaping and part 2 is on Use. ruclips.net/video/eSGu0kTdlds/видео.htmlsi=QVLWipooUZCPPE2S ruclips.net/video/p8dLBraFmhc/видео.htmlsi=boZzicDxcf2nASF3
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning cool - i only started watching your channel around 4 months ago i believe. I should go back through older videos. The skew is something I’m so-so with but since mainly doing bowls or segmented work haven’t worked on my skew skills. Thx Tomislav
Very instructive techniques just subscribed, liked and will be following. Thank you for the great insights and instructions. I hate catches so will be looking to improve my technique based on this information.
Great instructional video. Points out many finer points when using scrapers that are not thought about. Thank you for your time to share your knowledge. Beautiful piece of wood too, what is it?
Thank you for the tutorial ! The artifacts left on your walnut bowl are very normal for me. I’ve been second turning cherry and hard maple bowls. Are those just so hard no matter who gentle and how perfect the angle there is always that light tear-out. Which means way more sanding than I’d like to do…
Wood is natural product and no 2 are alike, usually with maple there should not be issue but again its wood and anything can happen. I always do my best to get the best possible surface and then of to sanding. sometimes is 180 and sometimes its 120 grit to start.
Thakyou very much Tommy. I’ve watched the video about 3 times now, some bits more. I think what was happening , I was not high enough with tool rest and had open angle whilst scraping. Probably just over 90 degrees. Really good no great video. Could you also show the most frequently used scrapers that you use. I’ve recently bought some tools 2nd hand which included some scrapers, some of which are obviously specialised shapes. There were also quite a few skew which I could turn into scrapers. One of the scrapers was a 7mm square section with round nose, any idea when this would be used Great description at end for differences between negative rake and standard scrapers and why you should use one or other. I now know why you use standard scrapers . Burr is better and lasts longer. Once again thank you
Glad to help out 👍 My most used scraper is shear scraper, just watch my video on my first prototype signature scraper. That scraper I use every single time. On that 7mm square scraper with round profile, That could be for smaller endgrain stuff like small scoops or similar
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning sorry Tommi, I forgot that you did this at beginning of video. Watching video again 4 th time. I have a scraper 32 mm wide and 8mm thick (Henry Taylor). Currently it has an extremely shallow curve on end. I don’t use it, too many catches. What do you suggest, I was thinking as an outside scraper a one sided curve or a 2 sided curve not bullnose.
@@gregdownunderinOz hmmm that is beefy scraper, the weight is issue for outside scraper as you tend to use smaller lighter scrapers. I would use it for deep hollowing, even maybe cut an angle to reduce width. Another option that I would go is making it into bottom bowl scraper with a bit more curve then you have now.
Thank you very much I don't have set speed for scraping. Its same speed I use with gouges. On some cases faster is better but most of the time its same as gouges. I have my lathe on middle pully and it goes to 1660 rpm, so that is max I turn
Another great video, clearly explained and well illustrated. Would you alter your techniques for roughing cuts with the scraper? I’ve seen you and Richard use the scraper in bowls or other cross grain vessels where I would have gone with a bowl gouge.
Sometimes I use gouge as well, I guess its about the mood I'm in😄, but everything is still the same if you want to rough with scraper.... Even more be carefull with negative angle as you tent to bite more in roughing stage
Great tutorial, brilliant advice. I’m getting a lot of good results with scrapers now. Problem I have is it may be just my technique but the tool rest on my record power coronet herald doesn’t allow smooth movement when tilting the scrapers…. Think it’s creating gouges that the scraper then sits in. What’s the toughest type and make of tool rest for resisting gouges from the tool movement ?
I try not to scrape the end grain of the inside of a bowl. I try to sheer cut it as clean as possible with the gouge coming down and then only scrape the face grain on the bottom and a bit into the corner.
Ofcourse,I do that also, however not many can turn like that so they grab scraper, so If I have to scrape the rim , this is how I do it☺️ Thank you for watching
I’m planning to order one of your refiners when the red tape knots are untangled and you’re able to offer them. Meanwhile, I’m looking at Crown square end scrapers and can’t decide between 3/4’’ and 1’’ size. Which would be most useful for mainly medium size bowls (6’’ to 14’’) and plates both side grain and end grain? Does it make enough difference to be worth having more than one size scraper? Thank you for any advice.
Hi hello, Depends on what it will be used for.... For shear scraping I would suggest 1 inch , smaller stuff I Usually keep square ended for deep hollow endgrain or for recess and similar. Let me know what you will want to do with it?
Nicely done and informative video. Out of curiosity, what bevel angle are you grinding your scrapers with?. All my scrapers are negative rake with the lower bevel at 60 degrees. I find that the steeper the angel the more robust the burr. IE, my top bevel is 35 degrees and if I flip the scraper over which I do sometimes for very delicate finials etc the burr lasts a quarter as long though it's far less aggressive.
Thank you very much. I always aim for 45 degrees ,on asymetric curve scrapers that angle changes to a blunt angle on the side,but nose of the scrapers I always aim for 45
I use 45 or variable angle on scrapers, if you have 80 then I feel that I can't ger the proper burr on the edge. Also blunt angle can rub in small boxes and then leave marks or even worse stop the tool from doing its job☺️
That’s a lot of information. I’m not sure I understood everything so I will watch the video again doing each single thing on my lathe as it plays. Well, I hope to skip the catches. I’ll take your word there.
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Sometimes we need to take a minute to appreciate how fortunate we are to have experts like Tomislav and Richard passing on their knowledge for basically free. Master classes in the art and craft of wood turning that have helped so many improve their ability and enjoyment of wood turning. Thank you so much Tomislav.
Thank you for such a kind words, I really appriciate that ☺️
As a beginner I have heard people talking about the angle of attack needing to be less than 90-degrees, but I never really grasped the importance until you explained it with the cutaway bowl. Granted, I am a graphical learner (that's why I watch videos!), but it was like turning on a light. It's clear you've had very good, patient teachers in your life, or you are just a natural teacher, but either way I am very thankful for your videos!
Thank you, really glad to help and that is the point why I make videos 😀
excellent english and excellent teacher !
Thank you soo much
You clarified several things that I didn't even realize I hadn't understood from dozens of other videos I've watched. I'm adding this to my "watch before I turn" playlist so I can refresh my memory before each lathe session until it is in my muscle memory. Thank you!
“watch before I turn play list”. I like that!
This guy took the words right out of my mouth. I have heard the theory and been shear scraping box interiors but, until you demonstrated the decrease in the angle to far less than 90 degrees as you approach the rim, I never fully understood the theory. Now I do so tyvm, Tomislav! And people will say that as long as you know how to do it, what's the difference? And I would say that once you understand that theory you can apply it to so many other circumstances.
Thank you Jay
Thank you very much
Thank you so much! This is such golden knowledge and i really appreciate you sharing it with us :) cheers to you!
Thank you, I really appreciate that
Perfect video, thank you
Bravo Tomislav and as always you are clear, in-depth and informative.
Thank you
Another excellent lesson. Most of us already know that the angle must be less than 90 but it is good to have a reminder and the reason why.
Thank you
Interesting insights.
Thanks for imparting your knowledge and experience.😊
Excellent explanation and demonstration-obviously takes practice to have that gentle touch too. Thanks again for sharing your experience and skills. 👍😁 greetings from Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺😁🦘
Thank you very much
Excellent and timely tutorial Tomislav.
Thank you
I was used to working with tool steel on metal working tools and I am always impressed with the torture test it can endure, like on a metal lathe. So it just never occurred to me that I could manually raise a burr on a material that is so tough until seeing you show us. This tutorial on scraping is worth addressing in more than one video to make sure it “sinks in”. So I was glade to see it gone over again.
Thank you,glad you find it usefull ☺️
Great video., as always! I wish woodturners would use the geometry term "acute" when talking about the angle of the scraper. It would save so much time and prevent confusion.
Unfourtually English is not my native language,so many terms I have never meet, but Hopefully with time and feedback like this I'll learn new terms😄 thank you for watching
Clear, concise and very informative. Excellent video, thank you.
Absolutely fantastic lesson. I use a standard scraper and have attempted to do the same shape on it as yours. It works really well. I do sometimes get a catch, but I'm getting better. This video will help focus my attention again. Thank you.
Glad to hear that Rachel, thank you for watching my videos 🤗
Great video, I learned a lot from this, scrapers are more efficient when used properly. Thanks for sharing this
Thank you very much for watching and indeed they are awsome tools once learned how to use
Very nice explanation. I'll feel more comfortable using a scraper with this info.
Glad to hear that ☺️ thank you for watching
Very well explained with great teaching points. It is obvious that you thought through your plan before you turned the camera on. Thank you for doing this.
First time doing a skript so I don't forger something. Its weird but it does help😄 thank you very much for watching
Fundamental first ! Ovo je bila karika koja je pomogla da povežem ponašanje noževa , izgled površine i pojmove end i cross /slide grain (po brazdi ili preko oranice :) , ) jako korisno . Tomica hvala , pozdrav Miro
Hvala Miro, drago mi je to za cuti 🤗
This video is very helpful. I believe it will help me use scrapers more effectively.
Great video full of information! Always learn from your videos Tomislov….. thank you 🤠🇨🇱
Thank You Randy
Very informative and as always in awe of your skills. Thanks!
Thank you Joris
Excellent instruction. Again.
Anything that cuts down on sanding is a great thing.
Indeed😀 thank you for watching
Thank you Tomfor this nice and clear study on good use of scrappers. 😉👍
Thank you
Brilliant. Cleared up a lot of problems I have been wondering about.
Glad to hear that, thank you for watching
This is excellent Tomislav. I am doing a demo next week and it involves making a box so there's lots of great information I can pass on here. Thank you Sir.
Best Wishes, Brendan.
Thank you Brendan, enjoy the demostration and thank you for watching
Great video this. Learning good from this. Whether woodturning or other work understanding is the key. Thanks for showing
Thank you
good to see your smiling face again, friend!
Thank you very much for this excellent explanation! It's very helpful!!
Hi, as usual, great tutorial and reference video. Keep those videos coming!!!
🕶excellent video Tomislav. Thanks for the time and effort.
Thank you Steven
Invaluable info for a wood turning wanna be... Me! Thanks sir!
Excellent presentation Tomislav - lots to think about & practice>
Thank your for another Master Class.
Thank you for watching
Another master class great video ,clear explanation thank you so much for sharing your expertease.
No problem,thank you very much for watching
Brilliant video Tomislav. I just would of preferred if you'd have done this video a couple of days ago as I had a really punky inside of a bowl.
Thank you 😄 unfourtually for really punky stuff cutting instead of scraping would be better in most cases.
great video, a lot of good information
Great instructional video. Thank you very much.
Brilliant explanations for each situation, thank you.
Thank you for such a great teaching video
Thank you,glad you liked it
Great lesson Tomislav.
Another great video. Great information thanks.
outstanding tool technique video, please make more sir
I'll do my best 😀
Excellent video. Could you do a similar lesson on using the skew?
I have in depth 2 part video on using skews, first is sharpening and shaping and part 2 is on Use.
ruclips.net/video/eSGu0kTdlds/видео.htmlsi=QVLWipooUZCPPE2S
ruclips.net/video/p8dLBraFmhc/видео.htmlsi=boZzicDxcf2nASF3
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning cool - i only started watching your channel around 4 months ago i believe. I should go back through older videos. The skew is something I’m so-so with but since mainly doing bowls or segmented work haven’t worked on my skew skills. Thx Tomislav
Very instructive techniques just subscribed, liked and will be following. Thank you for the great insights and instructions. I hate catches so will be looking to improve my technique based on this information.
Thank you,I really appriciate your support
Thank you for this. Will work on the pressure thing.
Great video. Very informative.
Excellent explanation!!!
yes it helps, thank you
Great instructional video. Points out many finer points when using scrapers that are not thought about. Thank you for your time to share your knowledge. Beautiful piece of wood too, what is it?
Thank you very much 😀
First bowl was walnut, second was pear and maple and sapele spindle blank
Great video
Very informative video.
Thank you for the tutorial ! The artifacts left on your walnut bowl are very normal for me. I’ve been second turning cherry and hard maple bowls. Are those just so hard no matter who gentle and how perfect the angle there is always that light tear-out. Which means way more sanding than I’d like to do…
Wood is natural product and no 2 are alike, usually with maple there should not be issue but again its wood and anything can happen.
I always do my best to get the best possible surface and then of to sanding. sometimes is 180 and sometimes its 120 grit to start.
Thakyou very much Tommy.
I’ve watched the video about 3 times now, some bits more.
I think what was happening , I was not high enough with tool rest and had open angle whilst scraping. Probably just over 90 degrees.
Really good no great video.
Could you also show the most frequently used scrapers that you use. I’ve recently bought some tools 2nd hand which included some scrapers, some of which are obviously specialised shapes. There were also quite a few skew which I could turn into scrapers. One of the scrapers was a 7mm square section with round nose, any idea when this would be used
Great description at end for differences between negative rake and standard scrapers and why you should use one or other. I now know why you use standard scrapers . Burr is better and lasts longer.
Once again thank you
Glad to help out 👍
My most used scraper is shear scraper, just watch my video on my first prototype signature scraper.
That scraper I use every single time.
On that 7mm square scraper with round profile, That could be for smaller endgrain stuff like small scoops or similar
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning sorry Tommi, I forgot that you did this at beginning of video. Watching video again 4 th time. I have a scraper 32 mm wide and 8mm thick (Henry Taylor). Currently it has an extremely shallow curve on end. I don’t use it, too many catches. What do you suggest, I was thinking as an outside scraper a one sided curve or a 2 sided curve not bullnose.
@@gregdownunderinOz hmmm that is beefy scraper, the weight is issue for outside scraper as you tend to use smaller lighter scrapers.
I would use it for deep hollowing, even maybe cut an angle to reduce width.
Another option that I would go is making it into bottom bowl scraper with a bit more curve then you have now.
Great explanations and demonstrations of scraper uses. I may have missed it, what speed do you usually scrape at? Thank you for sharing!
Thank you very much
I don't have set speed for scraping. Its same speed I use with gouges.
On some cases faster is better but most of the time its same as gouges. I have my lathe on middle pully and it goes to 1660 rpm, so that is max I turn
Thank you. This was very helpfu;
Thank you!
Awesome tutorial, it will help my school students understand a lot of using correct technique.
Q what speed is the lathe set at?
I don't have present speed for scraping, I use my lathe on middle pully,there is 1650 rpm max speed, so most of the stuff I turn on that speed
Another great video, clearly explained and well illustrated. Would you alter your techniques for roughing cuts with the scraper? I’ve seen you and Richard use the scraper in bowls or other cross grain vessels where I would have gone with a bowl gouge.
Sometimes I use gouge as well, I guess its about the mood I'm in😄, but everything is still the same if you want to rough with scraper.... Even more be carefull with negative angle as you tent to bite more in roughing stage
Great tutorial, brilliant advice. I’m getting a lot of good results with scrapers now. Problem I have is it may be just my technique but the tool rest on my record power coronet herald doesn’t allow smooth movement when tilting the scrapers…. Think it’s creating gouges that the scraper then sits in. What’s the toughest type and make of tool rest for resisting gouges from the tool movement ?
Robust tool rests are ammong the best, anything with harden rod across will work better then we have stock on the lathe
I try not to scrape the end grain of the inside of a bowl. I try to sheer cut it as clean as possible with the gouge coming down and then only scrape the face grain on the bottom and a bit into the corner.
Ofcourse,I do that also, however not many can turn like that so they grab scraper, so If I have to scrape the rim , this is how I do it☺️
Thank you for watching
Thanks! Excellent information! However, the background noise (planing?) is quite annoying.
Its table saw, well my father in law is busy and there is no time where noice like this won't happen. Its working workshop.
I’m planning to order one of your refiners when the red tape knots are untangled and you’re able to offer them. Meanwhile, I’m looking at Crown square end scrapers and can’t decide between 3/4’’ and 1’’ size. Which would be most useful for mainly medium size bowls (6’’ to 14’’) and plates both side grain and end grain? Does it make enough difference to be worth having more than one size scraper?
Thank you for any advice.
Hi hello, Depends on what it will be used for.... For shear scraping I would suggest 1 inch , smaller stuff I Usually keep square ended for deep hollow endgrain or for recess and similar. Let me know what you will want to do with it?
Do you round the bottom edge(s) of your scrapers? Thx.
I need to do that but I never got the time, but its good practice to do.
Nicely done and informative video.
Out of curiosity, what bevel angle are you grinding your scrapers with?.
All my scrapers are negative rake with the lower bevel at 60 degrees. I find that the steeper the angel the more robust the burr. IE, my top bevel is 35 degrees and if I flip the scraper over which I do sometimes for very delicate finials etc the burr lasts a quarter as long though it's far less aggressive.
Thank you very much.
I always aim for 45 degrees ,on asymetric curve scrapers that angle changes to a blunt angle on the side,but nose of the scrapers I always aim for 45
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturningthis is why I read the comments! More learning.
I read that 80 degrees is the usual angle on scrapers. You have a much more acute bevel. Any thoughts on this?
I use 45 or variable angle on scrapers, if you have 80 then I feel that I can't ger the proper burr on the edge. Also blunt angle can rub in small boxes and then leave marks or even worse stop the tool from doing its job☺️
The sharp point on your scraper worries me!
Would putting a small radius on it be a problem?
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If you like,sure.... I like that as there are things that need that kind a shape or corner. Thank you for watching
What is the angle you grind on the scrapers?
Its 45 deegres on the nose and if its like french curve scraper then sides are more blunt to prevent being grabby
I've always considered the term ''catch'' inappropriate!
I think *SNATCH* would be more correct for the effect!
*.'' to seize or take suddenly!''*
That’s a lot of information. I’m not sure I understood everything so I will watch the video again doing each single thing on my lathe as it plays. Well, I hope to skip the catches. I’ll take your word there.
Hopefully it will help you out 😄let me know