Bowl gouge grind that get you out of throuble.
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2024
- Richard Raffan, my mentor is brains behind this grind that really saves so much time on getting good cut on closed form bowls and pots, even hollow forms.
Try it out,its not expensive, All you need is small bowl gouge, diameter of 10mm and put long grind bevel like on spindle gouges.
You'll see how it works lovely.
Hope you enjoyed this video.
Thank you
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disclaimer Methods that are shown works great for me and they are not only methods out there, if you find this or any other method not comfortble,please use some other way.
Thank you and enjoy 
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I feel that I am learning from a master thank you
I'm far from master, I have a lot to learn but I enjoy that ☺️
Thanks for this lesson. I’ve learned lots from your lessons and explanations, so beneficial to other turners 🙏🏻 thank you for sharing your knowledge
Thank you sir for watching 😀
Having watched many of Mr Raffan's videos and his explanation of the Asymmetric Grind I can clearly see where you have studied under his tutelage. Your explanation of how to achieve this type of grind was much clearer than Mr Raffan's and I might just try it out.
I like very much how you explain your techniques and how you achieve the desired outcomes.
I am happy to up your subscriber count today.
Thank you very much,it means a lot ☺️
Thanks for all the information. Always love your videos.
Thank you
Thank you so much for explaining why you grind the way you do. I am a new turner....and I I'm always trying to learn. I have learned more in the past two days that I have been watching you, then I have in the past month of watching the other turners. Thank you so much for what you do.
Thank you very much for kind words and glad to help out ☺️
Thank you for watching
Great production style grind! Looks like it can do just about any kind of cut needed without switching tools too often. Thanks for all you do!
Thank you sir
Yet another great educational and inspiring video. I find that almost all the videos I watch are either Mr. Raffan''s or yours. Your explanations are so valuable --- what a great teacher. Thanks, Dave
Thank you Dave very much,I really appriciate that ☺️
Excellent explanation and illustration of that style of grind. That really provided a thorough explanation of the how and the why. The cross-section after you cut the bowl in half really brought the point home.
Thank you Mark, really appriciate that ☺️
Very good lesson Tomislav and great tips.
Thank you
Great work Buddy, I love watching you freehand sharpen. It's something i aspire tonget down one of these days. I need to buy a couple cheap gouges somewhere to practice on. I find it kindnof funny that you are such an expert at freehand sharpening your turning tools but like a jig for your chainsaws😅 We are opposites, i can freehand sharpen all my chainsaws but am more comfortable with a jig on my gouges😅 for now. As always a great video and thankyou for sharing.
Thank you buddy.
That looks amazing, I'm reasonably new to turning. Therefore, a few of my bowls break in half anyway. 😢
Its common thing so just keep on going and learn from those
That was a really good demo, Tomislav. I've seen it a few times but again, you did a better job explaining and demonstrating how well it works.
Just yesterday I had a fairly big undercut to make and used my spindle gouge as best I could. Here's the thing though, with the grind you showed, I can't reach across the bed so I flipped the lathe into reverse which eliminates the asymmetrical grind. I have one asymmetrical gouge that I'm grateful to have ground thanks to you and Richard. However, my symmetrical grind was what saved the day yesterday, before I had to grab the hooked carbide for the last little bit. I'm not ashamed. The piece looks great and a little thicker than I wanted, but with the highly embellished exterior I didn't want to risk any destruction. But I could have done better on the interior. I thought I would just sand away any ridges forgetting that I was working with ash. Now I have a wavy interior from too much sanding and I guess I'll try to do better next time.
Thank you. Congratulations 👏 Very detailed instructions and demonstration, loved the shape of the final piece, pity it had an accident with a bandsaw.
Thank you
Perhaps asymmetric grind could be your next signature tool “ credit Richard “ !
Shhhh🤫 don't tell anyone else yet😂
Works great indeed!! I had no luck in finding a proper piece of wood to try this kind of semi-closed form with the grind you are proposing, but hope I'll be able to do so, soon enough. Let us know when your signature Scraper will be ready, as I will order one for sure!!
Thank you again. Keep up the good work and keep safe.
Thank you buddy, no worries, I'll announs it on all social media ☺️
Excellent grinding instruction and lovely hollow form demonstrating the grind. Thank you 👍
Thank you,glad you liked it
Thanks Tomislav for a very good demonstration. Using cheap chinese tools I could not agree more about hss quality. But these, in my opinion, are still better starting point then learning with carbide scrapers.
You don't know how to sharpen them. They blunt a little faster than the not cheap ones
@@_Egor_Egorov_ Don't know how to sharpen? Now how do you know that? Welcome to my workshop and let's find out. And that is exactly the problem, you have to sharpen them so often, much more often than the ones made out of better steel.
@@metodemersic
I sharpen all the incisors before work. Chinese are 20% worse at sharpening.
the angle of sharpening and the length of the wing depends on the profile of the groove
Some very good tips, as always, but it was a lovely bowl. Thanks for another informative and entertaining video.
Thank you ☺️
Supper great vedio
Thank you
Very nice great information, another great video.
I just started turning with a set of WEN turning tools, and they have those handles.
Can you shed some light on the shape of the various flutes (elliptical, deep flute, "U" shape, parabolic etc) and the best grind that applies to each? Thank you for all the information you provide in your videos.
I'll see what I can do☺️ Thank you very much for watching
Tom another Masterclass thanks for sharing buddy,
kind regards from will.
Thank you Will 😀
Well presented & I understand this long bevel bowl gouge👌
Glad to hear that ☺️
Such beautiful wood to cut in half.
Well you learn a lot more from those.👍
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning I 100% believe in cutting bowls and pots in half, I just use plain maple or pine for those. The nice figured stuff I try to keep and sell.
Thank you for another great instructional video, I know you cut the pot in half for the demonstration, but I was saying no, no its beautiful. Thank you again.
Thank you, well you learn as much by cutting bowls in half as well as keeping them in one piece☺️
I think Richard Rafan from Australia also makes asymmetrical grind.
Richard is my mentor and I have learned from him
Como siempre explicando asta el último detalle
Thank you
Thanks!
Thank you very much, I really appriciate your support 🤗
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Sharpening and shaping the bowl gouge was very helpful as well as your turning the hollow turned bowl Thank you
@@tommt4283 really glad to hear that ☺️
Thank you for watching
Can you tell me the difference between a bowl gouge and a spindle gouge. I am just now learning about wood turning and I want to learn all that I can.i can't tell the difference between them on your video.
Thanks for your help.
I talk about tools and how they are different in my beginner series, you'll find entire playlist ☺️
Very instructional Tomas, have you got a video showing how you get such a good edge on your scraper?
I do sir, if you go back few videos you'll see announsing my first prototype signature scraper, and I go indepth on how I prepare edge
Why not use a Forstner bit to hollow out the first bulk part of the inside? Surely this would be a time saver and if not, what is the downside?
Nothing wrong using a bit but for me its not faster as with gouge is hollowed in just a few cuts. But if bit works for someone then its a good option
Thank you for this tutorial Tomislav!
What do you think about Hook- or Ringtools for hollowing,
do you even use them?
And where can i get your signature scraper?
Best wishes!
Thank you, I don't use hook tools but all the japanese turning culture use them for ages, so they are good but take a while to learn.
My scraper is still on final product prototype stage but once its available I'll announs it ☺️
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Thank you!
Thanks for the video. Why did you saw such an excellent product?
Try it, you Will learn a lot of how the bowl feels in hands once you saw it in half. This pot felt perfect but it does need a bit more work on that thick section.
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning
in my climate (monsoon climate), the thin parts of the bowl can deform. You have a very good one in the cut.
I hope someday you do a video just on spear-point scrapers. We all have them but rarely use them. I also hope you get an air hose soon. Hate seeing you constantly putting your fingers in to a moving bowl.
I do have a spear point scraper video, few weeks old.... ruclips.net/video/u_IqRuYNg_E/видео.htmlsi=hpj8NOLLRETqUDdd
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning , good video. Thanks for getting back to me.
richard raffan used that grind starting years ago
Yes,he is my mentor and helped me out with this grind years ago.
On other sharpening videos, I've seen people create wings by moving the handle to the left and right while turning the gauge so the flute stays on top. I've tried and it and it's a difficult motion. You twist the gauge and move it up and down . Does this create the same kind of bevel? It seems like a MUCH easier motion to do so I assume would be much more consistent.
Good point, by swinging the gouge left and right using platform is a bit more consistent however wings tend to be more straight, by pushing up the wheel you can create curve you want on wings.
Isn’t that grind really similar to what Richard Raffan uses?
Yes,its Richard's design and profile.
Works great
That ending was just sad! You destroyed an object most of us would have entered into a show! There should be a Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Objet's d'Arte!
Its all for learning, not just viewers but for my learning as well ☺️
I don't recommend this technique. 99% of turners would benefit from a Wolverine type system because it has a low learning curve and the results are the same every time. You will grind 1/2 your tool away before you ever get the muscle memory to do a 1/2 decent job.
Most of people miss the point with freehand sharpening.... Its not just sharpening,the feel you get from extremely light touch and feel on the grinder transfers to the lathe and wood. So many benefiths to freehand sharpening....
Ofcourse it takes practice,but everything takes practice so why don't invest time into something that will make a big different.
Also for someone that wants to do this for a living like I am ,speed and efficientcy is half the work. Its pays of in the long run.
There are other options like 40/40 on platform or Mike Mahoney sharpening on platform that are easier then I've shown and that helps as well.
And I don't care that the grind needs to look perfect every time. I know what tool will do and what to expect...also changing angles on mere seconds or changing grinds itself is much faster then with jigs...
Nothing wrong using a jig however with some practice you'll have more benefiths going freehand.
Again,its only my humble personal opinion and I never told anyone that they need to do this , that is beauty of turning,we all turn in our different ways
99% of turners would benefit from learning to sharpen freehand without using expensive proprietary sharpening systems.
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Good thing about these conversations is, each person can have his option. After over 10,500 individual turnings, and having done it professionally for over 20 years, and having taught it during those years, I can tell you that I would never, ever, even suggest someone waste time doing this by hand. No way can anyone, ever, do as good a job, and do it as fast as I can with a jig.
the fact someone wants to do it, is a completely different subject and conversation. I love wood turning though, and I'm just glad any one is out there doing it.
🕶good job Tomislav. Thanks
I've never used a jig, and haven't wasted any tools. Freehand is much faster and as long as you pay attention and use a light touch, there's no need for a jig. The wood doesn't care if your tool looks perfect.