Tool to help you master SKEW???
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Thank you Del for awsome tips on this highly underated tool.
This tool involves almost the same movement and trick oh handling much like using skew,so if you strugle with skew this tool should help out.
Enjoy
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disclaimer Methods that are shown works great for me and they are not only methods out there, if you find this or any other method not comfortble,please use some other way.
Thank you and enjoy
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I bought a Sorby Spindal Master. (very simolar to this tool) Your video is the first one to teach about it. Thanks so much for this series on Tools. I have learned so much. I'm 63 years old but have only been turning for a little less than 1 year. Wish I had started 30 years ago.
Thank you Joe, appriciate that.... Its never too late and its all about practice
I started over 30 years ago. Very little media in the way of woodturning instruction. I learned from Tomislav's mentor, Richard Raffin, through books and video tapes. My turning really took off when I discovered the local chapter of the American Association of Woodturners. Monthly meetings. Always learned something, even if I didn't like what the demo turner was making. Always little tips here and there.
Still learning, and your own journey will be the same as long as you practice this art, unless your ego gets in the way.
You have an advantage that I didn't, starting out. You're tuned in to the best. Very little on the internet in the 90s for woodturning. Keep watching Tomislav and Richard and your skills will improve exponentially faster than mine in my early years.
Made one today from an old s/h no-name tool and it's just as you so expertly demoed. I was ( Still am.. ) a bit shite with the skew on spindles but this thing is brilliant. Best £5 I ever spent on a tool. On the first attempt I managed a baby rattle with captive rings ( rings using another £5 homemade tool) with no catches. Brilliant. Thanks for this and all the other videos.
Awsome to hear that, just keep practiceing...
great video. A lot like Mark Sillay's grind on a spindle gouge. I use Mark's all of the time on spindles. I like this idea because you can make it from stock steel.
Thank you, excactly sir, but spindle gouges works great as well so its just personal preference... I like to know as much tools as possible,you never know which one will work on stuborn wood☺️
Yup....you continue working your way to the railroad spike tool.
😂😂 told you😂
Perfect tool, thank you so much for great video, good day and good luck
Thank you very much, good day to you to sir
Excellent video just got done making bowl gouge out of hss tool steel oak handle you are a big help
Thank you very much 🤗
Enjoy your new tool
Great job; start on a |hess set. one from Birch, one from Walnut.
Thank you and good luck on new set
Very interesting tool and the results speak for themselves. This looks like a 1/2 round nose scraper with a hollow ground into it. Given that, is it the hollow that allows one to use this tool in an orientation where a scraper would have serious issues with catches (over 90 degree angles) or is it the fact that you are riding the bevel and using this as a cutter rather than a scraper?
It interesting concept tool, its the second thing, you still ride the bevel, much like gouge, but the finish since its so accute angle of attack/approch it leaves surface like with skew
Tomislav, you should make this tool, your own “Tomislav signature tool.”
May be we would all buy one in appreciation of your videos and teaching. I would.
Thank you Peg, I really appriciate that and who knows where life takes us , maybe one day
Lokks very useful!
I can see why the small curved bevel is less catchy than a skew, but what is it about the hollow that improves the tool over one with just a flat top face?
That is good question, I might do comparison, but I would say that it gives better angle it terms of sharpness and also much like detail gouge it cuts way better then something flat on top.
With hollow you now have curved edge and better angle of attack and it leaves much cleaner surface... But again I might do side by side just to compare
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Thank you Tomisav! Good things to consider. Thank you for your videos and active comments!
🕶Thanks Tomislav
I need one of those ❤️
It looks much like a scraper. Am I missing something?
Similar but it has shallow flute on top
Very interesting ideas . I shall regrind a recently acquired tool to that profile
Great information! I am ordering a 1/2” round nose scraper today!!
This inspired me to make my own, but finding M2 steel with this cross section is difficult. Instead, I found a used round-nosed scraper on ebay for less money, so I will repurpose it for one.
That is excellent find and good idea.... I think small skews 12mm wide are also great resources
Excellent video. I have made one and need to work on getting a smoother bevel. How do you deal with the burr? Do you just hone with a rigid diamond or polish it off on a leather strop? Similarly, do you resharpen between grinds with a diamond hone?
I don't take burr of as it will be gone in few seconds,and I only sharpen on grinder, skews and this skew gouge I don't sharpen with hone,my personal preference. Just like the grinder bevel ☺️
Another excellent video!
Rude Osolnik used this tool, with the very important slight hollow, for his iconic, mid-century modern candlesticks.
I have a Sorby, picked up on a whim many years ago, and have been meaning to hollow it a bit and rescue it from the pile of "looked useful at the time" tools.
Keep em coming!
Do you think it would be possible to take continental roughing gouge and achieve the same result by sharpening it to a fingernail profile?
It will work yes, it just depends on your preference
Man Tomislav, your videos are second to none for the aspiring wood turner. Im taking up the craft, and I get so much from these. They are an indispensable resource, so thank you for taking the time to make them.
Thank you very much for kind words, really appriciate that ☺️
Tomislav, as I write this you are busy building a new shop so maybe someone else who knows can answer until you have time to catch up. I have a Skewchigouge which is similar to the one you made here. I’m instructed to sharpen it by running a fine diamond hone over the top. I see you sharpened yours from the bevel side. My question is, is this tool meant to work without a burr? With the burr on the bevel side? With the burr on the top side?
I haven’t used mine much because I’m not sure how and I was hoping this video would have the answers.
Hello hi
I sharpen my skew gouge as any other gouge.... I don't hone It as its cutting tool instead of scraping....
Now ofcourse cutting tools can be honed and I do that all the time but not this skew gouge,same goes for regular skew.
Hope that helps....
Just sharpen it on the bevel and you should be getting lovely results if tehnique is ok as well ☺️.
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Thank you. Now I will go practice, practice, practice.😊
Привет, Томислав. Прекрасное видео, спасибо. Но этот инструмент по функционалу и по смыслу похож на шпиндельный резец, который ты используешь в видео от 31 января с углом заточки 30 градусов. Только на нём выемка глубже. Или я заблуждаюсь? Просто этот резец менее гибкий?
Thank you very much, can't see what video I posted on 31 January as I'm not on computer, if you put the link I might be able to help you out ☺️
ruclips.net/video/gTr0L0F-Xr8/видео.html@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning на 4 минуте
Is this a tool that you can buy, or do I need to make it myself?
There is sorby spindle master, but it has flat top, so you will have to make hollow on top, or you can buy hss stock and make it from scratch.
Yup: a Sorby Spindle Master sans the highly polished bevel. (Psst, if you have a way to polish a bevel like the Spindle Master's, please do tell us!) I dunno why all the fear of the skew: after the spindle roughing gouge the skew was the tool I started with and that I find myself most comfortable using. It's the scrapers I'm afraid of: when they catch it's hellish.
The Spindle Master can be catchy as heck too, and its catches are wicked!
Most beginners dont like catches that are easy to get with skew,thats why I make skew tutorial few weeks back to help them realise that is accually quite safe tool.... I have several videos on scrapers that might help you out ☺️
Thank you for watching
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning, just the way you demonstrate the scrapers in some of your bowl videos has helped me feel more comfortable with that tool.You are a wonderful teacher, and I appreciate having your videos as a resource.
That's a pretty neat tool. I have a round one with a steep angle I use to shear cut bottoms of bowls
Hey Tomislav, thank you for shown us this nice tool. I miss one aspect by sharpening. What do you do with the burr after sharpening? Do you polish in inside until the burr is gone? Sorry for my bad english. I hope you understand my question. Greating from your fan from germany.
Hello to Germany, I leave the burr, I use tool straight from grinder and that burr usually goes away in just few seconds
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The question of the burr was exactly my question, so thank you for asking it and for answering it too. I love this tool once I was able to sharpen it correctly.
I so look forward to seeing every video you do! Very mind expanding!
Thank you Scott 🤗
Following on from my comments in Instagram, I can now see this is quite different to the Ashley Isles tool I own. That tool has a flat top the same as your originally but the base is round. The side of that tool are sharp, no flats like yours. This tool you could grind from any flat tool?? The Ashley Isles tool is called the "Elliptical Spindle Tool". I'll make sure I have my glasses on next time (again!!)
Any flat tool will work, just don't go less then 6mm thick as then likes to vibrate.... That Ashley Isles tool can work as well just make hollow on top.... It will work great
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This is the same as the spindle master. Robert Sorby will hate you for this. 😎
Not the same, spindle master has flat top, this has hollow on top, which makes it better in my mind
Thanks for sharing a very unique tool. Would like to add it to my list. Thanks again.
Your tool is very similar to an old Ashley Iles 1/2" spindle gouge that I have. Mine just doesn't hold an edge so well as a HSS tool.
There are many close examples of this tool although most of them are flat on top. this one has hollow on top
Thank you for sharing ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks for sharing! Did you make yhat gouge, or is that a Sorby Spindalmastrer that you modified? I always enjoy your videos.
Thank you very much, its old hss blank 12x6mm from Crown, and I shape it to this format.... Sorby spindle master is very close and good tool, it just missing that hollow on top
I bought a couple of those things years ago, tried them, put them in a drawer and never bothered with them again--until I watched your video and wondered if grinding that hollow on the top would make a difference. It did. They work now, and just as you said, not really a skew substitute in all applications, but quite good in some.
Indeed, they are a bit to practice but leaves surface prestene especially on detail work.
Well, I've only seen those at Lee Valley in North America. That's petty neat grind. I think I might convert an old bar of steel to one. That, and now I want to explore a different detail gouge that I haven't looked at for a year. Guess my skew has been enough, but I need to try these out. Great demo, Tomislav.
Thanks Jay, try it, its great adition to use along side skew
Nice tool control!
Last month, I bought a 1/2" and a 1" Sorby Spindlemaster on an auction site. They were sharpened very badly. Your video showed me how to fix them...thanks for the timely video. I hope I can develop the control you show in this video. After I sharpen them...practice, practice, practice!
Thank you sir, those would be my chose as well in term of size and they are great tools , so now just little correction on sharpening and should work great. Thank you once again 🤗
I recently purchased a very similar gouge. With your masterful demonstration I will be able to put it to better use. Thanks !!
Glad to hear that sir 😀
Thank you. That's brilliant. I have seen a tool like this one in the tools that came with the lathe I bought. Now I know what I can do with them. 😊
Awsome 😀 thanks for watching
I have been turning for 4 months and just got the Sorby Spindle master. I tried it today for the 1st time. You make it look easy. The one question I have is where do you have your tool rest? It looks like you are a lot lower than I put mine. Thank you for the lesson.
Thank you, the rest is , or I should say I'm cutting little above centar of the spindle. That Works for me, find comfortble position when holding tool and see if it cuts, then adjust, most of the time I change height as spindle get smaller
In the early 80's I was struggling with some fir spindles when Del Stubbs walked in my shop and reground my tool to that shape and changed my turning forever! As a production turner I have used this style tool on hundreds of stair spindles and hundreds of ornaments. One of my 3 'go to' tools. Thanks for sharing!
Awsome sir, You are lucky you get to meet Del, I've only meet through email.
Is your grind that he showed you similar to mine?
Oh! I've known the guy from 10 year old on! Amazing person that man but never talked about turning with him until 2022, can't say he's directly taught me anything about turning but uintroduced me to concepts I've run with, I'm still a terrible turner but he's been great to talk to about issues I have. I picked upmsome white oak from him not to long ago. I'm interested in when you got the DVD from him?, cause it looks a lot like the one I borrowed from him last year tomislav. I might need to try your grind in the future
He used to live around the corner from me. My grind is just like yours except no hollow grind on top. I am grinding one now to try. maybe a new evolution!
O this seems to be very nice tool. I will have to make for myselfe
Yes,yes,yes, i made this tool and it is a revelation, i used it for a good while and found it a great tool, it showed me how to approach the skew chisel which i have always struggled with, now i can actually use the skew with confidence. Thank you so much tommi, no longer the tool of the devil……..😊
Really glad to hear that and I'm honored to be able to help out
Looks like a great tool for making chess pieces. I have a Sorby spindle master but haven’t used it much. I also have an older rather narrow and shallow profile continental style (I think) gouge that could be reground to closely match this skew-gouge. I’ll give it a try because I don’t use that tool now. Thanks for sharing!
Go for it, its another tool and tehnique to have in your range
Nice video! This will really help beginners and intermediate turners. Sadly, I learned the old fashioned way with the skew like Dennis White used. Fortunately, I'm a very stubborn person and suffered thru many catches! Most frustrating when a catch ruins a nearly finished piece! I still practice with skew and still get an occasional catch. This tool is very useful if a catch must be avoided!
Thank you Richard for watching, I learned much like you, I do understand the strugle but I always grab skew , such a awsome tool
What a great tool tommi, thanks for sharing this plus how to make as well.
As usual a fantastic instructional video.
You are certainly one of the best teachers of tools and lathe work on RUclips.
Thanks and all the best from down under in Oz.
Thank you buddy for really kind words 🤗
Excellent looking tool and demonstration. Should be easy to make from an old tool. I was wanting to ask if you’ve ever used or come across a single sided skew or skew end chisel?. I have one a Stormont with a 30 degree bevel and 30 degree sweep back from the point. Being single sided there maybe a left and right one. Because the longer bevel almost twice that of a normal double sided skew it is quite easy to control. It’s great from roughing out to detail work.
Thank you Peter, Honestly I haven't came across that, sounds maybe like scraper right?
Using scrapers but with different approch you can still cut insted scrape on spindle,but just with proper tehnique.
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning yes I have seen you use the scraper as an effective cutting tool thanks. I think what I’m talking about is like a bedan but not - it is angled rather than square. Thanks though loving the channel btw. and the four ways was a brilliant idea. So many tips and challenges very interesting getting different view points on the same idea.
Would this be a good replacement for the detail spindle gouge?
Yes and no depends on type of work you do.... I like detail gouge for cross grain work and this on is great for details on spindle
Could the flute be accomplished by using wide cut off wheel on a side grinder?
Not sure, it might , but This Works so good and its easy so I haven't search for new approch ☺️ thank you for watching
Aye, you're right enough about the sanding. The great beauty of hand turned spindles is the clean sharp cuts compared to machine turning. You don't want to be mushing that up by sanding too enthusiastically. Thanks for that informative vid.
Thank you sir for watching 🤗
Very useful tool and thanks for the detailed explanation of grinding it and using it. Definitely one of the tools for my shop
Thank you very much
I would skip the sanding and just grab a hand full of saw dust and burnish. Do you prefer this tool over a bedan?
Indeed , just shavings can work as well...
Honestly I haven't use something like bedan as it really was never popular tool here in Croatia.... But I have one similar tool in mind to try out, so maybe you'll see video soon 😉
The French woodturner Jean-François Escoulen uses the Bedan and made the Bedan popular in France and elsewhere, but, maybe reshaped Tomislav’s way would be ideal.
Now I have to buy another tool..you make it look simple and easy. Thank you
or i have to make another tool ;) the HSS-bar is ordered 😉
Thank you very much 🤗
Another informative and interesting video. Ill be looking into one of those.
Thank you for sharing the information on this interesting tool.
Great lesson Tomislav.
Nice tool.
Del Stubbs was one of the more gifted woodturners, his works are at the Smthsonian American Art Museum, his hands did something magic at the lathe, sadly (from a woodturner point of view obviously) now he has devoted himself to the production of outstanding carving knives and tools. By the way he used to hone his woodturning gouges on a stone and probably this particular tool performs better that way then right from the grinding wheel as the way it cuts is similar to the skew chisel one and the skew benefits from being honed. Nothing wrong buying it, but I think that the main advantage of this tool, that is used in spindle turning, as well as of the Oland tool that is used in bowl turning is that is quite simple to make then by ourselves in the shop, with HSS if we find it but also in good quality regular steel that, at the only cost of reqquiring to be sharpened more often, performs the very same way. Potentially with a couple of leaf springs savlaged from a truck suspension and a little ingenuity is possible to have tools for bowl and spindle turning and some scrapers almost for free. I made by myself my deep fluted bowl gouge starting from a salvaged very good quality HSS round bar, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, it is a long and difficult task if someone does not have access to a metal working shop, while those tools and also the skew are quite easy to make in comparison.
Bonjour Tomislav. Voici donc un outil très performant et vous le maniez avec brio. Je vais tâcher de trouver cet article...Merci beaucoup👍
Thank you 🤗